Juno News - November 03, 2021


What's the future of cancel culture？


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Madonna is the latest celebrity to speak out against cancel culture, but what does that mean for the future of the culture itself? And where is cancel culture headed in the eyes of the younger generations? And what is the best way to deal with it?

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00:00:00.000 What's the future of cancel culture? I was mulling that question over when I saw the latest figure,
00:00:10.500 the latest celebrity, to come out against cancel culture. None other than the singer Madonna. Yes,
00:00:16.700 the material girl stepping forward in a recent interview in a magazine to say she's frustrated
00:00:21.440 with the fact that there's things you just can't talk about now or you will get canceled, and she
00:00:26.480 was denouncing it. Now, it seemed like one of the things she was frustrated about was vaccinations.
00:00:31.460 She said she wanted to talk about vaccinations in a different way or what have you. I don't know what
00:00:35.660 her particular views on vaccines are. I'm not here to defend them, whatever they are, but it was still
00:00:40.160 interesting that everybody hits a point. Whatever the issue is, whether it's telling jokes like the
00:00:46.280 Dave Chappelle situation, telling offensive jokes, or talking about vaccines in whatever way you want,
00:00:51.900 whatever way Madonna wanted to talk about the vaccines, it seems like for a lot of people there's
00:00:57.020 kind of a breaking point where they finally say, okay, I've had enough. I don't support this. And
00:01:02.660 they come out publicly and they say, I don't like this whole cancel culture thing. It was kind of
00:01:07.380 interesting to see author Margaret Atwood get in a bit of hot water for tweeting out a column about
00:01:13.760 transgender issues and the idea that language is being sort of revised and rewritten and is the idea
00:01:19.460 of womanhood and women. Is that sort of being erased when it comes to how we have to change our 1.00
00:01:24.900 language when it comes to transgender issues? And Margaret Atwood was attacked. This isn't the
00:01:29.020 first time it's happened with Margaret Atwood. She's brought up other issues where it suggests that
00:01:33.380 she's not all that supportive of the cancel culture, silencing people for not saying the perfect
00:01:39.160 thing, for not saying the right thing at the right moment, for not wording the tweet, you know,
00:01:43.240 the right way. And it all got me wondering, does everybody sort of have their moment when they
00:01:48.080 realize, oh, they like to cancel all these things that they would want to see canceled,
00:01:52.060 but suddenly, oh no, it's gone too far because now I would like to say something or, oh, here's
00:01:56.060 someone who was canceled and I don't think they should be. So I'm finally going to stand up for
00:01:59.660 them. And do they, when they see those examples, just defend that one individual in that one
00:02:04.480 instance, or do they realize, oh, well, hold on a second. I guess it shouldn't just be about
00:02:09.160 canceling the people you don't like. Maybe this whole idea of the fact that if we see someone
00:02:14.420 saying something, we hear someone saying something we don't agree with, maybe the answer isn't just
00:02:19.500 to completely like destroy them in their livelihoods and totally remove them from the public sphere and
00:02:25.040 sort of erase them from everything. Maybe the example is to just, you know, turn off the channel
00:02:29.860 if you don't like the Dave Chappelle special, or stop listening to the music if you don't like it,
00:02:34.060 or someone put a political opinion on Twitter and you don't really care for it, or you thought it was
00:02:38.000 a bit offensive or what have you. Okay, well, who cares? Just get on with your life. Is it a generational
00:02:43.680 thing? Because Madonna, she's getting up there, she's getting older. Margaret Atwood is an old
00:02:48.540 lady right now. Dave Chappelle is not a young man, those sort of individuals. And then we see young
00:02:53.340 people are some of the people who are most eager to actually support cancel culture. They have been
00:02:58.440 raised, perhaps in a time and an era where it's more acceptable to just tell people, no, you can't
00:03:03.940 say this or that. But then again, I do see a lot of young people who don't support that. There's a lot
00:03:08.260 of young people who are very aggressively into cancel culture. And then there are others who say, no,
00:03:12.500 we can't do this anymore. And they're fighting back almost more than any other age bracket. So I
00:03:17.140 don't know what the answer is in terms of the generational aspect or where we're actually
00:03:21.520 headed. Seems like more and more there are people who want to cancel others. But then more and more
00:03:25.900 there are people like Madonna being the latest example who say, well, hold on a second, let's step
00:03:30.400 back and let's just chill out about this whole thing a little bit more. Where is it heading? What do you
00:03:35.380 think?
00:03:35.640 So what do we think?