Juno News - August 24, 2019


Where are the ethics on the ethics committee?


Episode Stats

Length

5 minutes

Words per Minute

173.70493

Word Count

883

Sentence Count

45

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

The Ethics Committee blocked a motion that would have allowed the Ethics Commissioner, Mario Dion, to take the stand to speak about his damning report on the Trudeau administration's handling of the SNC-Lavalin bribery investigation.


Transcript

00:00:00.040 The House of Commons Ethics Committee clearly needs a new name. This committee, after all,
00:00:15.000 with its Liberal majority decided to band together to block a motion that would allow
00:00:20.100 Mario Dion, Canada's Ethics Commissioner, to testify. The reason, of course, is that the
00:00:25.520 Liberals didn't want Dion to take the stand because they probably didn't want to hear what
00:00:29.960 he had to say about that 63-page report he tabled last week that found Justin Trudeau
00:00:35.060 violated Canada's federal ethics law when he put and his office put pressure on
00:00:40.960 Jody Wilson-Raybould, at the time the Attorney General in Canada, to interfere
00:00:45.680 in the supposedly independent prosecution of SNC-Lavalin. Now, this report was
00:00:51.060 damning. It had a number of allegations. We know that the government was trying to
00:00:54.620 block several witnesses from being able to testify, which is why Justin Trudeau
00:00:59.960 and the Privy Council Office didn't expand cabinet confidence waivers and the
00:01:04.640 Ethics Commissioner said he was up against a wall in this respect of his
00:01:08.980 investigation. But instead of being able to answer questions, talk about what he
00:01:14.340 found, talk about the process, Dion has not been invited. He was willing, he was able, he
00:01:19.980 was eager to make that date with the Ethics Committee. But no, no, no, the Liberals on
00:01:24.540 the committee, with one exception, Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, decided they were not going
00:01:29.060 to allow it to happen. Now, if this all sounds familiar, I'm not recycling an old
00:01:33.260 video here. The Liberals have done this with the Justice Committee when Jody
00:01:36.920 Wilson-Raybould herself wanted to make a second visit to the committee to testify.
00:01:41.300 The MPs, again, Liberals said, ah, we've heard enough. We don't need to have her back.
00:01:45.500 And now with Dion, they're not even giving him a single opportunity to speak. Now, to be
00:01:51.920 fair, he has had the opportunity to put forward his results. He's tabled the report.
00:01:56.620 They can't block that. But you'd think that a report finding the Prime Minister of Canada
00:02:01.520 has violated federal law might be worthy of a few questions. This is not a radical concept.
00:02:07.540 In fact, it's entirely routine for an officer of Parliament, as Dion is, to speak to parliamentarians
00:02:14.220 after tabling a report, especially one as significant as this. But again, ethics have
00:02:20.080 no place on the Ethics Committee. The government is more interested in protecting Justin Trudeau's
00:02:25.320 political ambitions than actually investigating the law-breaking that has now been found by
00:02:32.220 Trudeau. Canadians deserve better than this. The process has been abused to protect the
00:02:37.640 Prime Minister, which means political interests have trumped the rule of law. And that was the
00:02:42.320 whole point of the SNC interference, is that, again, the rule of law, the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin,
00:02:48.240 was less significant than the liberal ambitions, which were also SNC-Lavalin's ambitions, of
00:02:54.940 protecting jobs, allegedly, a political purpose. Let's be real. But this is why it's so important
00:03:00.660 that Dion had had the opportunity to testify. There are still, even after that report was
00:03:06.240 tabled, unanswered questions. Like, what was he trying to figure out when he saw that he was unable to
00:03:12.060 interview and get documents and evidence from those nine witnesses? What is it that Trudeau said
00:03:17.380 as far as the justification for why he wouldn't allow those nine witnesses to testify? What is it
00:03:23.220 that Jody Wilson-Raybould had to say that, again, might have been protected by Cabinet confidence
00:03:28.240 had that been waived? If this was an exhaustive investigation that picked up every rock, looked
00:03:34.100 in every nook and cranny, then sure, maybe we could say that he has said his piece and we have all the
00:03:39.780 facts. But we don't. And the report itself acknowledges this. It says quite clearly that
00:03:45.140 there was more information that Dion would have liked to have brought to light, but he just couldn't.
00:03:50.440 And again, that should, to any respectful politician, be an indication that, hey, we have more questions
00:03:57.600 that we need to ask. But what the liberals on the committee have done, in some respects, may backfire.
00:04:03.600 Because they've now said they have no questions about the report. They have nothing to challenge,
00:04:08.120 nothing to question, no holes that they can poke in it. Which means that by the liberals saying they
00:04:12.840 don't want to talk to Dion, there is, in some respects, a tacit endorsement or approval of the
00:04:18.700 report. After all, if they disputed it, if they wanted to take issue with it, maybe, just maybe,
00:04:24.260 they would want to have some opportunities to question the person who wrote that report.
00:04:29.800 So if I were the conservatives or anyone trying to oppose the liberals right now,
00:04:33.700 that would be the argument I'd put forward. Well, if the liberals don't want to ask Dion any
00:04:38.160 questions, clearly they take at face value what it is that he has to say about Trudeau,
00:04:43.780 which is that he broke the law and behaved unethically. And the report shows that very
00:04:48.500 clearly. We are still asking the questions at True North, one of the reasons that we're crowdfunding
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00:05:03.640 For True North, I'm Andrew Lutton.