Juno News - Whistleblower EXPOSES weakness in Ontario Elections

00:00:00.000 we are going to stick with this topic of election integrity but we're going to shift gears a little

00:00:08.480 bit and talk about something that has been uncovered in the province of ontario and to

00:00:13.800 discuss this i'm pleased to be joined by clayton demaine who is a journalist with true north clayton

00:00:18.500 welcome to the program thanks for being here thanks for having me okay so tell us about the

00:00:23.340 story that you broke over at true north on our website juno news exclusive elections ontario

00:00:29.960 probing video alleging election flaws uh ontario is investigating after a whistleblower filmed an

00:00:37.160 expose claiming to reveal vulnerability vulnerabilities in the ontario voting process

00:00:42.080 why don't you tell us about the story and tell us about the whistleblower that you've been talking to

00:00:46.020 yeah so absolutely uh the whistleblower is he didn't want to give his full name uh because he's afraid

00:00:53.220 of legal reprisal but he he said his name is spencer he operates the youtube channel make canada great

00:01:00.320 again or mcga um and so what what he did is he used a fake bank statement with fake names and phony

00:01:08.900 addresses to expose uh the vulnerabilities in the election or purporting to expose vulnerabilities

00:01:15.760 in the uh voting system in ontario um so he did show us the the images he used he just edited a tv bank

00:01:24.880 statement uh changed changed some of the names um yeah and so he was able to get all the way up to the

00:01:31.940 point of attestation where you're signing the ipad uh and that's just you're saying i am who i say i am

00:01:39.360 i you know my age is accurate my address is is correct um i had to do this myself um but yeah so

00:01:47.700 he he got up to that point but he didn't want to vote fraudulently he considers himself a patriot

00:01:54.180 um so he he didn't do that but he did he did vote once with his real address and his real name

00:02:02.940 uh in the writing that he's supposed to be in um using the same method so it uh he he went to 13

00:02:11.780 different writings um and did this and so his i guess like his whole point is to show the problems

00:02:20.060 with not having voter id um you could just potentially vote multiple times using different addresses

00:02:28.420 um there are laws against um you know voter fraud but the question is like would they would

00:02:36.640 they be able to catch this elections ontario did not uh tell us when we asked and the first article

00:02:44.660 we published was a week ago they still haven't told us uh whether or not there's any checks and

00:02:49.980 balances beyond the point of attestation that would have prevented somebody from committing voter

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00:03:37.580 support independent journalism thank you so much back to the episode yeah it's really believable i mean

00:03:42.740 this is this is true investigative journalism right this individual went out and did something he was

00:03:47.460 wearing a camera so that he could film it but he's just going to show how easy it is like you can

00:03:53.140 literally just show up and say oh i don't have an id and talk to talk basically talk people into it

00:03:58.580 which is what the video that we were just showing shows he's just able to talk his way through and

00:04:03.740 eventually get to a place where you don't even really need id you could just sign your name

00:04:07.060 and there is an update in the story today clayton because the same whistleblower reached out to us

00:04:12.900 sent us an email that had been sent to him from elections ontario demanding that he take down

00:04:20.280 the youtube video so it says thank you for contacting elections ontario upon further review we have

00:04:25.340 determined that the video here has violated the privacy of our staff we are requesting that you

00:04:30.960 remove the video immediately and we've blurred out the name of the official there but basically they have

00:04:38.700 been caught red-handed not enforcing the rules or maybe the rules aren't there to begin with

00:04:43.520 and so their response is to basically make something up because from best i can tell clayton the video

00:04:48.220 that we just showed doesn't violate anybody's privacy rights because everybody's face is blurred out you

00:04:53.480 have no idea who the people are you just know that it's a voting station in ontario so uh what do you

00:04:59.800 what do you think of this recent update this latest update yeah so he he did send me that email

00:05:04.740 and you know they didn't they didn't address his concerns with the voter vulnerabilities when we

00:05:10.200 reached out they also didn't they just said they were investigating the video and they didn't say

00:05:16.040 are they investigating the vulnerabilities that he's purporting to expose or are they just

00:05:21.260 investigating him to try to slap him with fines for exposing these things um so i would i look forward

00:05:28.680 to hearing back from elections ontario on on what they're doing here um i would like i i we even

00:05:35.060 asked them you know like do you even take this seriously um so like i i would like to hear back

00:05:42.180 from them on that but you know his his concern was really that like you know are they gonna are they

00:05:47.560 gonna catch catch this sort of uh voter fraud from happening and even if they do uh will they discount

00:05:55.180 the vote and if and what if it's someone we're talking a lot about foreign interference these days

00:05:59.900 um what if somebody just comes from you know does this method votes multiple times they're not even

00:06:06.860 a canadian citizen or a resident here and by the time they catch something like this they might be out

00:06:12.820 of the country so you know it does pose a bunch of questions about the integrity of elections

00:06:19.660 and it's not just ontario i want to tie this back to what just happened on sunday evening

00:06:24.940 clayton because as you probably saw we were told that there were 400 000 registered liberals we know

00:06:30.460 that the liberal party rules mean that you don't have to be a citizen of canada to be a registered

00:06:36.780 voter you don't have to even be of legal voting age federally you could be 14 years or older and you

00:06:43.820 don't have to pay any money unlike other political parties in order to be a member considered

00:06:47.820 eligible to vote you have to pay a very nominal fee maybe five five dollars ten dollars twenty

00:06:52.060 dollars something like that in in for the liberals you don't do any of those things so we're told

00:06:55.820 that they had 400 000 registered members and yet when it came to the vote on sunday evening to

00:07:01.820 select the new prime minister and 85 percent of the race we were told went for mark carney but that

00:07:07.900 only includes 151 899 people who voted so we were told there were 400 000 and yet only 150

00:07:16.620 51 and change thousand people voted fewer than 40 so that means 60 of people on their own list

00:07:23.980 did not vote i mean in this in this conversation about integrity of our voting system what what do

00:07:30.700 you what do you think about that yeah i mean uh there was a lot of concerns early on in the race when

00:07:37.180 people were just signing up one person signed up uh their dead dog i think it was dahlia kurtz um uh

00:07:45.740 there was one who signed up on the chinese consulate so essentially xi jinping could you know the president

00:07:53.660 of or the dictator of china could vote in our elections potentially uh so they did seem to address some of

00:08:00.140 those concerns that you couldn't you didn't even have to be a a citizen to vote at one point but they

00:08:05.820 they changed that to be uh you know at least a permanent resident i believe i could have that

00:08:11.500 wrong uh but they did they did address some of those concerns but federally like that's a good point

00:08:16.860 because um like in terms of the general election that's you know incoming um you just need the rules

00:08:24.540 aren't as like are a little bit more strict than ontario's election but you could still just use two

00:08:29.820 pieces of document uh documentation with your name and address so you could use an utility bill and a

00:08:35.900 bank statement so um i there's still there's still potentially concerns in our federal election if if

00:08:43.740 there's not um if it's not proven that there's there is these checks and balances beyond that point

00:08:49.820 i just want to add like uh when i went into the ontario election i didn't have i moved recently so i had

00:08:56.380 to use a um i what i used i didn't have a voter uh information card i just had an amazon receipt

00:09:03.740 i did show them my ids so that but that wasn't necessary like i showed them like hey i am who i

00:09:09.100 say i am and it's funny because the receipt said i have two last name like i i said clayton domain on

00:09:15.340 the receipt but my my legal name is clayton domain proud i just shorten it for media um so like my name

00:09:22.460 didn't my id names didn't even match the receipt and i was still able to vote like you know luckily

00:09:27.420 i'm not committing fraud but it does it like this this story did make me go huh like i didn't even

00:09:32.860 really think about how uh potentially vulnerable that that makes our our elections well it's interesting

00:09:39.580 i it kind of brought me back because when i was in university i went to the university of alberta up

00:09:43.180 in edmonton and i wanted to vote in the pc race at the time to replace who was going to replace ralph

00:09:48.460 klein and i went to go vote but i was from british columbia so my id was from british columbia but i

00:09:54.140 lived in alberta because i went to school there and so all i had was my university of alberta student

00:09:59.020 id and then when it came to my address i mean i lived in shared housing so i didn't even have a

00:10:04.620 utility bill but it just happened in my backpack to have a um a magazine that i subscribed to mclean's

00:10:11.260 at the time and it had my address in the in the constituency and so they let me vote for that

00:10:17.420 and uh you know it's kind of funny i did have i did have photo id but didn't have my address on it

00:10:21.580 and then i had to use a magazine and just like if i hadn't had that magazine in my bag they wouldn't

00:10:25.900 have let me vote but i do think that there is like a problem when you can kind of just like talk your

00:10:31.180 way in to voting and and it just shows how in some ways like our system is just not secure it's it's

00:10:39.260 fine if everybody trusts each other if you live in a high trust society where you know the person back

00:10:44.140 in the day when i was voting in that leadership race they said okay this person's obviously who

00:10:47.900 she says she is she's got a student card whatever um but when you start considering against the

00:10:51.820 backdrop of like we know we have foreign entities and adversarial actors in canada trying to thwart our

00:10:57.740 democracy and trying to undermine our votes our parliament admitted so much and yet we still don't

00:11:02.940 take this kind of thing um seriously it's quite shocking yeah absolutely absolutely yeah i mean it's it's

00:11:09.260 we're just operating on it like a trust system essentially which i agree yeah it's like when

00:11:15.580 because that's what you get when like even even spencer was talking about uh you know the person

00:11:20.060 who did this video he was like these aren't bad people who are the elections officers like they

00:11:25.020 want to trust you like they just they just want to make your vote easier it's not their fault right

00:11:30.220 it's it's like but like it does make you think um kind of like okay well maybe we should rethink

00:11:35.900 this especially when you talk about the foreign interference and you know we you know mass immigration

00:11:42.540 whatever so we don't know who's if you can if you don't even have to be a citizen like that that's a

00:11:47.900 that's potentially a a problem it's so unreal all right clayton appreciate your time thanks for all

00:11:53.340 your hard work and great reporting over at true north and thanks for joining the show today thank you

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Juno News - March 11, 2025

Whistleblower EXPOSES weakness in Ontario Elections

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