Juno News - December 23, 2025
Who wasted THE MOST taxpayer money in 2025?
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Who's on Santa's Taxpayer Naughty and Nice List? Santa and Mrs. Claus have a list of people who have been good or bad all year long, and they hand it out to the Taxpayers Federation's Federal Director, Franco Terrazzano.
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Welcome to The Fighter with Chris Simms. I am Chris Simms. I'm the Alberta Director for the
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Canadian Taxpayers Federation, and it is the most wonderful time of year. I hope you are having
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a peaceful, safe, and happy holiday with your friends and family across the country. We've got
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a lot of fun here at the Taxpayers Federation because it's a time for reflection. It's when
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Franco Terrazzano gets on the phone with Saint Nicholas, and Santa tells Franco who is on his
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Taxpayer Naughty and Nice list. Okay, so we hand out this list from Santa to politicians and bureaucrats
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and some tax fighters who've been good or bad all year round. Now, of course, we've got Franco
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himself to deliver the actual news, but first, let's hear a word from our sponsor. Folks, I want to
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You know, I went to the University of Alberta and studied political science. And the thing you realize
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when you're doing a university degree is that it doesn't lead you to a job. And so for me,
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after three years of being a political science student, I looked around and realized I had no
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job skills. I had never worked in politics. Everything was theoretical. It was all in the classroom.
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okay, without further ado, as promised, joining me now is Franco Terrazzano, my dear friend and
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colleague. He's the federal director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. We had a lot of I
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assume you had a lot of fun talking to St. Nicholas about his naughty and nice list. You just talk on
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the phone or do you FaceTime now? Oh, it's a little bit of this a little bit of that. I mean, what's
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really hard though, is because look, Mr. and Mrs. Claus, especially Mrs. Claus, there's so
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many politicians and bureaucrats that she wants to put on the naughty list, but we have to whittle
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that list down to like six, five, six politicians and bureaucrats. But that's the hard part, right?
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Because Mrs. Claus is so upset with the way that politician bureaucrats are taking your money and
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wasting it on these extravagant trips and all the big blow to bureaucracy across Canada.
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Yeah. So let's start with the big one. Let's start with topping the naughty list. Who is on top
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of Santa's taxpayer naughty list? Well, it's a well-deserved top of the naughty list this year.
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It's Ontario Premier Doug Ford for giving Ontario politicians Santa-sized pay raises. Okay, folks,
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this is gross. It's disgusting. These Ontario politicians, they gifted themselves a 35% raise
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this year. Okay. Premier Doug Ford, he gave himself a raise that would make even Ebenezer Scrooge blush,
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a $73,000 salary hike in just one year. And not only that, folks, these Ontario politicians at
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Queen's Park, they brought back their taxpayer-funded platinum pensions. And oh, more bad news,
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more lumps of coal for Premier Doug Ford. He initially promised to end political welfare,
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but this year he made Ontario's per-vote subsidy to political parties permanent. So it's absolutely
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gross for handing out 35% pay raise, for giving himself a $73,000 raise, for bringing back the
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platinum-funded pension, for making Ontario's political welfare system permanent. Yeah, Doug
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Ford very well-deserved on the top of the Santa taxpayer naughty list. Yeah, big time. I will point
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out, I lived in Ontario for a long time when I lived in Ottawa. And for the longest time, then the
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opposition Conservatives were harping at the Ontario Liberals for blowing money, for constantly wasting
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money, for not balancing the budget. Have they taken a look at their Ontario debt lately? Like, I thought
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that we were actually supposed to balance budgets and save money and quit blowing taxpayers' money.
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I didn't think we were just signing up for, I don't know, a blue suit.
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Yeah, the party with taxpayers' money is alive and well at Queen's Park. Let me tell you, right,
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absolutely crazy, staggering amount of spending, really no fiscal responsibility happening under
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Premier Doug Ford. And look, like, we talk about the pay raises, they're absolutely gross. Like,
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first of all, what have they done to deserve a pay raise? Like, honestly, and a $73,000 raise that
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Ford is taking? Like, that's the entire salary of the average Canadian worker that Ford is giving
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himself in a pay raise in one year. Like, talk about padding your pockets with taxpayers' money.
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And on the political welfare thing, right? Like, look, I know a lot of Canadians right now are losing
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a lot of sleep, worried about the finances, worried about the basics, worried about the credit card
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bills. I don't think there's a single person living in Ontario worried that these political parties
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don't have enough money to launch attack ads, put up lawn signs, or stuff people's mailboxes with
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pamphlets and nobody reads. I want to stress that too, because I think some of our viewers might be
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like, huh, what do you mean politician welfare? To your point exactly, folks in Ontario, some of your
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money is going to political parties, even if you don't vote for them, even if you don't like them,
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okay? And it is going to pay for things like junk mail, attack ads on radio, and lawn signs.
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Like, to me, it's just a huge abuse of taxpayers' money. So yeah, very well deserved. Top of the
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nice, top of the naughty list there for Ontario Premier Doug Ford. Where do we want to go from
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here on the naughty list? Do you want to go to Philippe Champagne? Yeah, Federal Finance Minister
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Francois Philippe Champagne. Like, look, the patron saint of children doesn't like it when politicians
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settle future generations with massive government debt bills to pay back. Well, Champagne, he plans
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to add about $320 billion to the debt by 2030. Gross. For comparison, former Prime Minister Justin
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Trudeau planned to add about $150 billion to the debt over those same years. So yeah, when you plan to
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borrow almost twice as much as what even Trudeau was, yeah, you're on the naughty list.
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That still blows my mind. Let's roll right into the Canada Revenue Agency, because you had a long
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talk with Santa about this one. He was super ticked off. Why did the CRA actually land on the naughty list?
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Well, they left Santa on hold, and then they gave him the wrong tax information. Okay, so look,
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Santa, he reads every single letter that he receives. Okay, the CRA can barely even find out
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where the phone is. All right, so Santa was telling me this story. He was like, yo, Franco,
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when I tried to call the CRA, they left me on hold for about an hour. When they finally did pick up the
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phone, they forgot to check their numbers twice. The CRA gave Santa the wrong tax information. Now,
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Santa, he's not surprised that the Auditor General found that the CRA only gives out the right answer to
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individual tax questions 17% of the time, meaning that the CRA gets it wrong 83% of the time. But Santa's
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mad. He's furious, right? Santa has been this mad since the invention of sugar-free cookies.
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That sounds gross. All right, where do we want to go here? I thought that this BC minister going to
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Boston, and I think her name is Brenda Bailey. There's a lot of Bs, a lot of alliterations in this
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one. This was a crazy story. Yeah, well, she's on the naughty list for taking taxpayers on a golden
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sleigh ride, right? Like, look, Santa's little helpers, they caught Brenda Bailey, who's now the
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finance minister in British Columbia, they caught her billing taxpayers 6,600 bucks for a limousine
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service during a four-day trip to Boston. I mean, like, Rudolph doesn't even charge that much,
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right? Absolutely ridiculous. And then, look, Bailey admitted that the trip she was on was a
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junket, but instead of apologizing, instead of, you know, paying the money back, she told reporters
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that this was the type of trip she'd take again. Yeah, that was horrible. Now, folks, Franco isn't
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being facetious there. She actually used the word junket. Like, she called it that herself.
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And then she said, this is it, guys, pro tip, pro tip in communications. If you're in it up to your
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neck, like, stop swimming around in it. Just climb out. But she didn't. She's like, no, no, I would take
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the trip again. Again, they're in un-money land right now in British Columbia. Massive provincial debt.
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Most people can't afford the basics right now in that province. There's no way that some provincial
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politician needs to jet set to Boston, much less rent a limousine for herself. Okay, do you want
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to finish off with everybody's favorite public safety minister and him trying to grab the firearms
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of licensed law-abiding gun owners in Canada? Gary Anandasangri, the federal public safety minister.
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Yeah, definitely on the naughty list. And I'll tell you right now, Mrs. Claus is absolutely furious
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over this one, okay? So, Anandasangri, he checked law-abiding Canadians' firearm licenses.
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He even checked them twice. Law-abiding Canadian firearm owners did everything right.
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But instead of going after criminals and illegal guns, Anandasangri wants to grinch
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law-abiding Canadians' firearms away with taxpayers' money. And Mrs. Claus, like we were chatting
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on the phone, Mrs. Claus made it real clear that she is not going to hand over the rifles
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she uses to protect the reindeer from those hungry predators. Okay, so, yep, this gun ban
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and confiscation scheme that Anandasangri is moving forward with under the direction of
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Prime Minister Mark Carney, I mean, it's an absolute taxpayer boondoggle. Who knows how
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many billions of dollars it's going to cost? But also, it's not going to make Canada more
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safe. Like, you got the Toronto Police Association speaking out, you had the union representing
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the Mounties, speaking out for many years, really. And the reason is, is like, look, it's
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not like criminals are walking over to the police headquarters to hand over their illegal guns.
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No, like, this is going after law-abiding Canadian firearm owners.
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Yeah, big time and well-deserved. Okay, that is a packed naughty list. And unfortunately,
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I hear that Santa has a lot more nominations and recommendations for his naughty list than he does
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for his nice list. So, it's the flip side of the kids here. All right, want to move on to the
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nice? Because you've got a real great one, or sorry, Santa has a great one for the top of his nice list.
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Yeah, let's start with the Parliamentary Budget Officer, Jason Jakes. I mean, just for giving
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Canadians the gift of government transparency and accountability in Ottawa, the PBO has been
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doing great work for a number of years. But really, the PBO owner, Jason Jakes, I mean, this year,
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they were just delivering in droves the amount of accountability, right? It was the PBO who first
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sounded the bells over the government's massive growing debt, right? We heard the PBO and committee
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use words and phrases like unsustainable, stupefying, shocking, something is going to
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break, everybody should be concerned. And then, and then the PBO called Krampus on Carney's creative
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accounting, right? The PBO caught Carney trying to relabel $94 billion of operating spending as
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capital. So, for the great work that the PBO has done, I think very well deserved to be on the top of
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the taxpayer nice list this year. And I wanted you to just kind of delve into that a bit. So,
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for folks who haven't worked in the Ottawa terrarium, I know they really value shows like
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this because we've worked in it and you work in it right now. It takes a lot of guts. It takes a lot
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of courage in that Ottawa bubble to speak out like this, doesn't it? Oh, yeah. I mean, it sure does,
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right? Because like, let me give you an example. Like when I'm at committee, when I'm at the finance
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committee, for example, talking about the budget, you know what I noticed? Everyone's there with
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their handout asking for more money. We're essentially the only group that's at committee
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telling these politicians to spend less. And like the PBO, they like, they work in Ottawa,
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they have like, you know, their family, their friends all in this Ottawa bubble. And the bureaucracy,
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the politicians, the other swamp creatures, they all want, you know, the party just to keep flowing,
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just spend more, borrow more, who cares is other people's money, just raise taxes,
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print money, who knows? And the PBO is saying, no, no, no, guys, like something is going to break.
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We need to get the adults back into the room and somebody's got to say no. So that does take a lot
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of courage, especially just given the context of them living and working in Ottawa. So hey,
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kudos to the PBO because we deserve accountability and transparency in Ottawa and the PBO is delivering.
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Much well-deserved top of the nice list. Speaking of well-deserved, and I will point out also the PBO,
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as you mentioned, it was that office that was often giving us the straight goods on the true cost
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of carbon taxes with a lot of deep dives. So, so important. That parliamentary budget office is super
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important. Speaking of carbon taxes, Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe, he's also on Santa's nice list.
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And once again, Saskatchewan is kind of one of the lone voices now speaking out against the industrial
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carbon tax. Yeah. If you go back a decade ago, there's really just two formal organizations
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fighting the carbon taxers in Ottawa. Number one was the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, always have,
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always will. But the other one was actually the Saskatchewan government under then Premier Brad
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Wall. And, you know, kudos to Mr. Wall, but also kudos to Scott Moe, the current Premier of Saskatchewan,
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who's continued that fight. And so Moe set the industrial carbon tax rate to zero,
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making Saskatchewan the first and so far only carbon tax-free province in Canada. And by taking
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the industrial carbon tax off of Sask power bills, Moe is saving Saskatchewan families hundreds of
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dollars. And, you know, rumor has it, Santa is thinking about moving his toy production shop
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to northern Saskatchewan to escape the Grinch's industrial carbon tax.
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You know what? There's plenty of frozen, snow-capped wilderness out there. He can definitely
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move operations across the border into northern Saskatchewan. So well-deserved,
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Scott Moe. I wanted to move on here. Do you want to go to the Indigenous activist,
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How about I do this one? We've got a couple more on the NICELIST, folks. If you want to
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learn more about the NICELIST, head over to taxpayer.com, check out the newsroom.
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Simmer, I'm going to do one and then you take us home. How about it? Okay.
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So also on the NICELIST, you have Indigenous activist, Hans McCarthy, and I'm just reading my notes
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here because I want to get these numbers right because they're staggering. Okay. So
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Indigenous activist, Hans McCarthy, he partnered with the Canadian Taxpayers Federation to launch
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a court challenge to force the federal governments to release records regarding the Frog Lake First
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Nations Trust Fund. Okay. Now Frog Lake, it's, you know, northeastern Alberta, you know, similar,
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close to Lloyd Minster. And the trust fund, it totaled about $102 million in 2013.
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Okay. $102 million in 2013, less than $9 million remained in 2024. Okay. So it went to $102 million
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in about a decade's time. It went down to 9 million. So McCarthy launched and he won this court
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challenge and the court ordered the federal government to provide the records. And so not
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only does McCarthy's court victory really improve transparency for people on his First Nations
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community, but it also sets a clear precedent across Canada, right? That band members have a right to
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know how their community's money is being used. Yeah. And, you know, for that, I think Hans McCarthy
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very well deserved on the taxpayer NICELIST this year. Like folks, like it really takes a ton of not
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just commitment to government transparency, but a ton of courage to be able to go through this type of
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court challenge. Yeah. Big time. If I may, he not only had to try to hold his local band council
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government to account, he then had to go hold the feds to account. That was astonishing. And the fact
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that he won in court is amazing. So the next time someone is trying to get, especially something like
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financial transparency from their local First Nations government, which essentially is kind of like a
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small town council, but it's on a First Nation. And they try to get information. This will revert back to
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this court case. It'll be known as the McCarthy ruling or whatever they say in proper lawyer talk.
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I will also point out that, especially in small communities like this, everyone knows each other.
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So for him to stick his head above the parapet for year after year to say, nope, I want answers.
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Nope. Show us where the money went. I want answers. Like he would have heard about that every single day
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and he stuck with it. Yeah. And specifically, I mean, this challenge, it's really the court ordering
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the federal government to provide the records, right? Like, so the court ordered the federal
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government to provide these records and like McCarthy sets a clear precedent, right? Sets a
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clear precedent for Canadians. Yeah. And that's, uh, that's awesome. Yeah. Big time. So well-deserved
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on Santa's taxpayer nice list. Okay. Let's get into the last one that we have on our nice list. And
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that is a, okay. This is Alberta Premier Danielle Smith. Now, yes, I can hear the audience right now.
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Yes. We know that there's some questions about the MOU. Yes, we know. Okay. I think that Premier
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Danielle Smith really wants pipelines and she really wants to get that production cap lifted.
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She also wants to get that green thing taken off of our power bills. So I understand that. And I also
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understand a lot of people don't trust Carney and they can't stand carbon taxes. All that said,
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something huge happened just before that. And that was the Alberta teacher strike. Franco,
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uh, you lived here in Alberta. Okay. You know how powerful some of these big government unions can
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be. They really ground down parents and kids and frankly, some teachers because teachers were not
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getting strike pay. They were on strike for close to a month, a month, even though the deal that was
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being offered would have made Alberta teachers, the highest paid teachers in Western Canada,
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also without a sales tax. So the cost of living here is cheaper. Okay. Than other Western provinces,
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but no kids were out of school. Teachers were on the picket line with no strike pay. I will remind
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people and parents were scrambling. What was crazy. Franco is that halfway between this big fight. Okay.
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They came out and said, give us $2 billion more. Like on top of the billions of dollars they're
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already spending on top of the billions of dollars they're already spending to build new schools.
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Okay. They said, give us 2 billion more. And I got to say the easiest thing that Smith could have done
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would have been, you know what, fine. It's been three weeks. Everybody's mad at me. The kids are
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suffering because they're not in school here. Here's your pound of flesh right out of the
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taxpayer side. Here's 2 billion more dollars. She didn't. She said no signing bonus. So they went
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right back to work and no 2 billion extra dollars. So now teachers are back at work. Kids are back at
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school and the Alberta teachers are still the highest paid in Western Canada. So I thought that Alberta
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Premier Daniel Smith deserved to be on Santa's taxpayer nice list for saving taxpayers 2 billion
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bucks. Yeah, me too. So does Santa. I'm glad that Santa Claus agreed. Franco, this is a really
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interesting list. I would encourage everyone from across Canada to go read it. Where can they find
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it? Is it just right up on our website? Best place taxpayer.com. Check out the newsroom. You'll find it
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there. Again, taxpayer.com. Perfect. And folks, remember in the comments, let us know who you
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think should have been on Santa's taxpayer naughty and nice list. And we will let, oh, sorry, Franco
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will let the big guy know. He has his phone number. Thank you so much for watching. Be sure to like this
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