Juno News - November 24, 2024


Why are girls missing out on sports?


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In this episode, we discuss why young girls are not participating in sports at the same rate as their male counterparts. We are joined by feminist author Meghan Murphy, former president of the Board of Athletics Alberta, and advocate for women, Linda Blade, to discuss the issue.

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00:00:00.000 our next panel now, I will be joined by Megan Murphy, a feminist author, and Linda Blade. She 0.67
00:00:06.880 is the former president of the board of Athletics Alberta, and she is a advocate for women. We're
00:00:13.420 going to be talking about why young girls are not participating in sports at the same rate as young
00:00:20.380 boys. So Linda, how prevalent do you think this issue is of young girls not wanting to play in
00:00:27.580 sports because of the possibility that they might be competing against a biological male?
00:00:33.360 Well, I don't have statistics because we're not allowed to ask, and this is the biggest problem
00:00:37.560 in Canada, but I know it's a massive problem at the ground level. A lot of girls feel very 1.00
00:00:43.160 uncomfortable with possibility. I've had private connections with people who've been struggling
00:00:49.980 with it. I would say it's not the only reason, of course, not the only reason why, you know,
00:00:57.220 a girl would feel uncomfortable or not want to do sports anymore, especially going into the teenage 0.66
00:01:04.480 years. It's very common that girls would, some of them want to drop out. You know, even just even if
00:01:11.100 it's a sport of figure skating, for example, you get a little heavier in the hips for a while,
00:01:15.540 maybe your jumps don't go as well, and then you quit because you feel like it's all over when it's
00:01:20.260 not really. You could just work your way through it, but there's a lot of different reasons.
00:01:24.200 So, Coach Linda, when you look at these numbers, the disparity between men and women's sports,
00:01:29.580 is this something that you're personally concerned about, or you think it's pretty normal just given
00:01:32.860 how women's bodies change? 1.00
00:01:36.300 You know, when I read the article on the survey and the survey results, I was quite surprised
00:01:42.080 that it was even that close. I would have thought that it might be, you know, boys at 68% and girls
00:01:49.860 at 40%. So, the fact that girls are in the 60 percentage points, even though they're slightly lower 0.73
00:01:56.080 than the guys, I mean, that's not necessarily great, but I mean, it's not out of the range of, you know,
00:02:03.820 marginally acceptable. There's still a lot of dropout that'll always happen when girls become teenagers 1.00
00:02:09.420 and start to menstruate and have other interests in life. Sport is just not as accepting of girls
00:02:16.220 in general, and it's even harder now that boys are allowed to self-identify into girls' sports. So,
00:02:22.760 I would say that it's not an alarming percentage that I looked at, but I care deeply about the fact
00:02:32.000 that whoever's remaining in sports as a female athlete into their teens is, has a double
00:02:38.820 discouragement of having, you know, having to deal with the fear of boys coming into their sport and
00:02:45.980 having to compete with them. Megan, I want to go to you on this topic next. So, the government of
00:02:52.100 Alberta, you know, is introducing legislation that would make it, so that would basically create safe
00:02:57.720 spaces for women's sports. It'd be woman-oing sports. Biological men could not play in women's 1.00
00:03:02.840 sports. They've talked about maybe creating a third division for, that would be co-ed, so that
00:03:07.560 people who identify as transgender could play in sports as well. Do you think that this type of
00:03:11.840 legislation is necessary? Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I don't, I think that the idea of a separate category
00:03:20.820 for, you know, trans-identified people is fine. I don't think that it'll be populated by anyone. 1.00
00:03:26.260 I don't think that the point is actually, as they say, exclusivity. You know, there's always been
00:03:34.080 sports categories for males and not always been sports categories for females. That's relatively
00:03:40.820 new in our history, I suppose. But yeah, I mean, girls and women's sports are important for a wide 0.99
00:03:48.820 variety of reasons. It's so empowering for girls, as I'm sure Linda has spoken to and has spoken to
00:03:55.980 many times. It's so empowering for young girls to be able to compete as athletes. And I just, you
00:04:04.340 know, the idea of letting males compete in women's sports will lead inevitably to the erasure of women's 0.99
00:04:12.160 sports completely. And I've seen some people, you know, Democrats and in Canada, you know, liberals and
00:04:19.900 progressives say, Oh, this is such a small issue. You know, there's hardly any trans athletes who cares. It's just a few,
00:04:27.760 you know, what they would refer to as trans girls or trans women, and what I would refer to as men and boys, who are
00:04:35.120 wanting to compete, so just let them but I mean, it's not women's sports are for women, girls sports are for girls. And 1.00
00:04:42.980 I think it's as simple as that.
00:04:46.180 Yeah, I think to your point, you know, in the CBC article that we were talking about, Linda, there was one female
00:04:51.480 athlete that was referenced, her name is Hannah Pilling, she was 18 years old. And in the article, she said, you know, I
00:04:57.080 didn't make, I didn't make it to provincials last year, because a biological male also was able to
00:05:03.560 compete in the women's division, and you know, ran faster than me. So after years of training, I wasn't
00:05:08.080 able to compete. And the article kind of really beat on the fact there didn't seem to be a lot of
00:05:13.120 biological men competing in women's spaces in Alberta. But I'm sort of left with the impression that even if
00:05:18.140 one woman has her spot stolen by a biological male, isn't that in and of itself an injustice that we should
00:05:24.980 create policy that would protect those women isn't even that one girl who lost her spot because of 1.00
00:05:30.440 a man and what should be a woman's space? Isn't that a bit of a disgrace? Linda, what are your thoughts? 1.00
00:05:36.020 Yeah, absolutely. Like, you have one person involved, one boy self identifies into a girl's race, you've
00:05:44.820 affected every single girl in that race. So it's not about oh, so few, it's about it only takes one to be 0.59
00:05:52.160 the fly in the ointment that makes it difficult and, you know, interferes with the entire female 1.00
00:05:59.960 sector in that particular event. And can I just say, with Hannah Pilling, I literally went to the track
00:06:05.860 because there had to be a petition file for her to actually get to the provincials anyway, even though
00:06:10.660 she got beat out. So she did appear. So I went over there to see how it was going. And what I found
00:06:18.120 was appalling, I found that it wasn't just restricted to her rights being, being somehow
00:06:24.040 undermined. When I went up to the stands after her race and looked up for her dad, because I wanted to
00:06:30.380 say, well, good for you guys that you stood up and stood your ground. I found her dad, she told me where
00:06:35.900 her dad was in the stands. I find her dad being completely berated with profanity by the aunt of the 0.92
00:06:41.940 boy saying, oh, you shouldn't have said anything. So you know what, it's not just, I mean, the things
00:06:47.400 that people don't know, it's not just that the girl was somehow replaced. Now the dad is being yelled
00:06:54.220 at by somebody because he's transphobic. It's like, it's ruining the experience for every single person
00:07:01.140 in that whole realm. And, you know, there are parents who have told me when I was president of
00:07:06.060 track and field in Alberta, you allow this to happen. Boys in our sport, I'm taking my girls
00:07:11.300 out because I don't want my family to deal with this. And I saw it firsthand. I actually had to
00:07:16.040 get between the two of them and tell the woman to back off. I didn't even know the man. I was even
00:07:21.080 going to introduce myself to him and she was just out of control. So we can't have this happening in
00:07:27.200 the stands while the children are on the track competing.
00:07:30.060 No, absolutely not. One of the criticisms that was levied in the CBC article was that now some
00:07:38.740 Alberta sporting organizations are concerned that youth sports won't be able to bring championships
00:07:44.480 to Alberta because of these regulations that might not fit with regulations, with regulations rather
00:07:50.220 elsewhere in Canada. Megan, what would your response be to that?
00:07:53.660 I mean, I don't think that, I think that they're looking at this backwards. I mean,
00:07:59.560 we're supposed to be protecting girls and women. It's not about fitting girls and women into these
00:08:04.720 new regulations that have changed to accommodate transgender ideology and boys who want to cheat 1.00
00:08:13.360 essentially. So I, you know, I don't, it's like Linda says, this is affecting all girls and all women
00:08:23.500 in sports, even if it's just one boy. And it's so ironic to me that we think about it as though
00:08:30.320 it's these girls and women or the girls' parents, for example, who are causing trouble and just like
00:08:36.860 leave these poor trans girls alone. When in reality, it's one boy or one man who's ruining the entire 0.94
00:08:46.560 sport or the entire race or the entire event, the entire competition for all of the girls and women
00:08:52.940 who are competing there and, you know, and their parents and their coaches and the idea of a future
00:09:00.880 in sport for girls and women and the idea of a future in terms of whether or not they can access
00:09:06.300 these scholarships and go on in their careers. You know, we should be changing regulations to push
00:09:14.100 other provinces to also change regulations and push other countries to also change regulations and to push
00:09:20.140 the Olympics to change regulations. I think the more provinces and the more organizations and the
00:09:28.460 more countries and, you know, the more coaches and universities, for example, that push back,
00:09:34.920 everyone else will follow along. And I think that we're seeing that happen. You know, we just saw
00:09:40.780 Trump win an election in the U.S. And a big issue for a lot of people was this issue of girls and women
00:09:47.460 in sport. And I think it will be a big issue in the next Canadian federal election as well. And it
00:09:55.220 appears to me as though Pierre Pogliere is paying attention. Certainly the conservative parties
00:10:03.540 provincially are paying attention. You know, this was an issue in the B.C. election. And I think that
00:10:10.340 the majority of the population is speaking and those who aren't listening are falling behind the time.
00:10:17.300 Well, you answered my last question. I was going to ask you, where do you think this goes from here?
00:10:24.820 And you said the majority of the population is speaking and those who are not listening are falling
00:10:29.700 behind. So I will give that to my audience as encouragement about where things are headed
00:10:35.940 in North America at the moment. Ladies, thank you both so much for being here today and for your insight.
00:10:40.100 Thank you. Thank you.
00:10:49.620 Thank you.