Juno News - Why Canada’s EV mandate won’t work + CBC stacked with six-figure bureaucrats

00:00:00.000 welcome to the candace malcolm show here on juno thank you so much for giving us a part of your

00:00:08.040 long weekend i hope you're having a safe and fabulous time if you're not getting time off

00:00:13.020 especially if you're one of those first responders out there working thank you so much for the work

00:00:17.380 you're doing i wanted to mix it up a little bit here because a lot of folks might be traveling

00:00:22.000 back from visiting friends and family you might be coming back from the cabin or the cottage you

00:00:26.740 might be enjoying our beautiful rocky mountains wherever this show finds you thank you so much

00:00:31.580 for making us part of your long weekend celebration i wanted to put a quick bug in your ear because if

00:00:37.120 you're driving a car if you're taking a road trip as part of this beautiful long weekend we're on

00:00:44.000 borrowed time here before the federal government really messes up your ability to purchase the

00:00:50.820 vehicle you want to i'm talking of course about the looming ban on gasoline and diesel powered

00:00:58.440 vehicles people often refer to this as the ev mandate i don't like saying that though because

00:01:04.180 i find it lets it go under the table it slips off and under the door this is a ban that is going to be

00:01:11.360 on the sale of what i would call normal gasoline and diesel powered cars now based on stats okay the

00:01:19.380 latest quarterly one stats we have for this year show that just over nine percent nine with an n

00:01:26.720 nine percent of new vehicle sales have been evs this quarter in canada so that's less than 10 percent

00:01:35.480 so that means it's not a super popular choice for people for whatever reason a a lot of people still

00:01:41.960 can't afford to buy a fully battery powered car even with the federal government rebates factored in

00:01:48.780 okay on average your average you know commuter sedan compared apples to apples it's about twenty

00:01:56.920 thousand dollars more to buy a fully electric battery powered version of that okay two a lot of folks

00:02:04.700 can't use a battery powered vehicle an electric vehicle for their uses they could be hauling horses to a

00:02:12.000 rodeo they could be hauling a camper for their kids to go enjoy they could have a boat okay they could be a

00:02:18.040 trades person they could be hauling a whole bunch of tools into more remote locations that don't have

00:02:23.920 super convenient fast charge stations people are infinitely complex okay as dr jordan peterson points

00:02:31.000 out a million times over everybody's personal lives are super complicated most people have trouble just

00:02:38.120 managing their own lives imagine the government and bureaucrats deciding they can manage this for you

00:02:45.500 it's not going to work for three huge reasons one the state has no place in the garages of the nation

00:02:53.740 okay it shouldn't be up to the government to get up in your grill and say what kind of vehicle you can

00:03:00.340 and cannot buy two we don't have the energy for this and by we we mean canada if santa claus came along

00:03:08.980 and changed all of our vehicles that we already own okay they're in your driveway okay they're in your

00:03:13.620 garage your privately owned vehicles bibbidi-bobbidi-boo all of a sudden they're just battery powered

00:03:19.540 we would need 14 huge new can-do nuclear reactors the big ones the big ones that we see in ontario okay

00:03:31.920 a place is like pickering each of those things costs anywhere between 12 and 15 billion dollars

00:03:40.380 each to build each one of them takes about a decade to build so we don't have the energy to plug in

00:03:50.040 all of these vehicles that now prime minister mark carney is going to try to force you to buy

00:03:56.900 i used to call them crudo trolleys these battery powered cars we can just call them carney cars now

00:04:02.780 right because that makes sense um i've said to people this is really carney's new car ban tax

00:04:10.660 sorry that's a bit of a mom joke but this is really serious because it's going to start affecting your

00:04:16.120 bottom line real fast people think this is only going to hit in a decade no no no no in five months

00:04:22.820 in five months time the carney government is going to start forcing and punishing car dealerships

00:04:30.080 to sell 20 of their new car sales as electric vehicles remember what i said there's only about

00:04:39.360 nine percent right now guess who's going to have to eat that extra 11 percent you yeah car dealerships

00:04:48.340 are going to be punished financially by the federal government if they don't make the federal government's

00:04:53.640 quota and it's also going to affect your ability the supply of normal gasoline and diesel powered

00:05:01.120 vehicles meaning when you go to the lot it might not be available the one that you've been counting

00:05:06.440 on and saving up for so as you're enjoying hopefully your long weekend okay hopefully you're doing the

00:05:12.420 life is a highway thing with tom cochran that would be awesome here in canada remember your ability

00:05:18.060 to choose what kind of vehicle suits your needs most is being frittered away really fast and the

00:05:25.840 restrictions kick in in five months time and it is going to cost you big money speaking of money

00:05:32.860 we don't have the money by the way even if you wanted to go full jetsons okay wouldn't that be nice

00:05:39.420 to you know electrify canada and everybody gets to do the 18 thing and dig in and build stuff we don't

00:05:45.560 have the cash for that okay we have un money okay the current federal liberal government has doubled

00:05:51.020 the debt in 10 years okay so we do not have the cash flow or the private investment to be able to do

00:05:59.280 this heck we would be hard pressed to build a single rail line remember how that's how canada got started

00:06:06.280 we'd be hard pressed to do that if the federal government were the one trying to actually make that

00:06:10.860 happen so we cannot afford to electrify the whole country in order to meet this mandate natural

00:06:16.880 natural resources canada itself is estimating that this whole electrification scheme is going to cost

00:06:24.020 about 300 billion dollars okay that's like close to a third of a trillion dollars money we do not have

00:06:33.060 so they shouldn't be telling us what kind of vehicle we can drive we don't have the energy for this

00:06:37.940 and we don't have the money to create the energy for this speaking of money and huge wastes of cash

00:06:43.460 we all know that the cbc is costing you the taxpayer 1.4 billion dollars this year it cost you 1.3

00:06:52.500 billion dollars last year see what happened there the cost goes up now despite the cbc trying to say

00:06:59.520 oh my goodness the cupboard is bare we're going to have to make cuts oh my goodness oh my goodness

00:07:03.580 it's not true the canadian taxpayers federation obtained documents that shows the middle management

00:07:11.980 at cbc i'm talking managers and assistant managers and producers and executive producers and analysts

00:07:19.820 and advisors and you name it supervisors okay they've got those folks coming out their ears

00:07:26.460 the blob at the cbc middle management level is just getting bigger and bigger how much bigger let's

00:07:34.780 find out joining me now is franco terrazzano he is my good friend and federal director for the canadian

00:07:41.020 taxpayers federation franco i teed you up with this idea that we really need to dig into what the cbc is

00:07:48.220 spending money on specifically its bloated obese crazy size middle management sector it is a

00:07:56.140 astonishing so very quickly the anecdote goes something like this for every one journalist

00:08:00.860 in a normal newsroom outside of the cbc you guess that there's like four other reporters at the cbc

00:08:07.100 with 12 managers above them but you've got the documents you've got these a tip freedom of

00:08:12.620 information request documents that show this is true so give us the list what kind of management are

00:08:19.020 we talking about here at the cbc yeah well you know what turns out uh you essentially have a circus

00:08:24.540 tent full of bureaucrats for everyone acrobat at the cbc okay so we got internal records from the cbc

00:08:31.740 showing um you know how many employees they have that are paid more than 100 grand a year

00:08:37.020 all right and it lays out all the different positions i i have some notes in front of me and

00:08:41.900 ladies and gentlemen buckle up okay because the cbc's own records show that they have 180 managers

00:08:48.940 managers 277 senior managers 124 directors 106 senior directors 28 executive directors 493 producers 36

00:09:02.620 technical producers 168 senior producers 86 executive producers 130 advisors 81 analysts 120 hosts 80 project

00:09:13.980 leads 30 lead architects uh 25 supervisors and many other bureaucrats that are paid more than 100

00:09:21.100 grand so i mean the bureaucratic bloat at the state broadcaster is unreal it's insanity taxpayers the ones

00:09:29.980 putting the bill i mean chris look i mean cbc is pretty much exactly what you'd expect a news station to

00:09:36.300 look like if it were run by the government that's exactly it we could do the whole show that's it but no

00:09:42.460 let's dig into it a little bit more because uh a lot of folks who are listening are probably shaking

00:09:47.500 their heads thinking do they really need that amount of managers no no they do not okay if you work in a

00:09:53.580 newsroom you've usually got like a room hopefully full of reporters usually not anymore but full of

00:09:59.660 reporters then there's like maybe two editors and there's one news manager okay there might be some

00:10:05.740 mucky muck in a far away office who's managing both the radio and tv but as far as management goes there's

00:10:12.060 usually one person for like the whole room for the whole day so this is just nuts but it's not

00:10:18.940 surprising because it shows we often see that the cbc has got tiny audiences like their audience share

00:10:26.700 for cbc newsworld their prime time is 1.8 meaning 98 of the tv viewing public in canada is choosing to not

00:10:36.940 watch them and as a long time journalist i couldn't tell you what an architect is at a media company

00:10:44.220 much less a lead architect maybe they're the ones who design like the space age national set or

00:10:49.900 something but on top of that it isn't just the term manager in there you've got like advisors okay i

00:10:57.580 looked that up on what that is and i found a job posting for the state broadcaster and an advisor is

00:11:04.300 somebody who advises and wanders around i don't know if they wear a robe and sandals but they have

00:11:09.340 to like advise their employees on everything from like history to like dei practices at work like this

00:11:17.260 is such a bloat here franco well i guess that's one way to get your viewership numbers up hey just add

00:11:23.260 some more bureaucrats and middle managers right like i mean look i'm laughing because otherwise i'd just cry

00:11:29.980 i mean hundreds of managers uh directors producers many other bureaucrats all paid more than 100k at

00:11:36.860 the cbc is it is there any wonder why it's costing taxpayers more than a billion dollars every single

00:11:43.580 year and like look we we also got some uh separate access to information requests that show how the

00:11:49.900 number of cbc staffers taking a six-figure salary have ballooned over the years okay so you actually look

00:11:58.220 now uh more than a thousand cbc staffers are taking six figures um it's the increase is more than 300

00:12:07.740 since 2015 right so the the number of cbc staffers taking a six-figure salary has increased by more

00:12:13.340 than 300 percent uh since 2015 and you know like here's the real here's the real practical thing for

00:12:20.460 people who are listening in government or just our regular canadians and our friends um look the cbc's

00:12:27.100 always crying poor right always saying the cupboards are bare hey government government

00:12:31.580 give us more taxpayer cash pretty please pretty please and and now you have a government that's

00:12:36.460 talking about a spending review well these records the cbc's own records where you have all these

00:12:41.580 managers managing managers proves that there is so much fat on the cbc stake that they can cut

00:12:49.740 yeah big time and i'm going to warn people right now okay as they're going into these negotiations blah

00:12:55.020 blah blah blah in the fall you watch the cbc will do something dramatic they will take one thing that

00:13:01.340 somebody still likes at the cbc and they'll they'll kill it on the air they'll like get rid of it because

00:13:06.780 that's what they did back when prime minister stephen harper was in charge and he went through

00:13:11.180 all the departments and said hey guys could you guys find i think it was between five and eight percent

00:13:15.420 savings what did the cbc do did they trim down their huge middle management bloat no did they stop all

00:13:22.140 their you know crazy staff meetings that they have all day every bloody day no they just cancelled a

00:13:28.300 cbc radio program that everybody liked that cost next to nothing to produce because it was all done

00:13:33.500 on the phone internationally it was this little tiny half an hour long show because it caused a big splash

00:13:40.700 and that's what you watch mark my words that is what they're going to do and what's frustrating here

00:13:45.500 franco is exactly to your point we often hear them say oh my gosh we're going to have to do rollbacks

00:13:50.940 we're going to have to do layoffs the cupboards are bare blah blah blah blah so much so that the

00:13:55.020 former ceo catherine tate the lady with the bright red hair that was at committee all the time she

00:14:00.860 went on the national like on tv with adrian arsenal saying oh well you know we can't really talk about

00:14:07.500 bonuses but she said they were going to have layoffs they said they were going to have cuts um nope that

00:14:13.900 one year they spent 1.3 billion dollars from taxpayers the next year 1.4 that's more money

00:14:21.580 not less they are not saving money at the state broadcaster hey speaking of bonuses let's talk

00:14:27.500 about the cbc sleight of hand sure that's segue okay so uh you folks you all remember back in what

00:14:34.220 it was december 2023 yeah right uh where the cbc just weeks before christmas announced a bunch of layoffs

00:14:40.860 but oh they're still going to be handing out bonuses to the fat cats remember that i remember

00:14:45.820 that i also remember uh you know cbc going around you know begging for more taxpayer cash okay so then

00:14:53.900 there was public backlash and there was backlash from across the political spectrum about these

00:14:58.540 taxpayer funded bonuses right uh we released some polling showing 70 percent of canadians were against

00:15:03.820 the bonuses even an advocacy group that's in favor of the cbc uh friends of canadian media they said

00:15:09.580 that the bonuses were unbefitting of a national public broadcaster and you know that's their words

00:15:14.460 not mine because i always say state broadcaster um okay so anyways i've heard you say unbefitting

00:15:19.660 before yeah yeah it's a tough one it's a tough one so look massive public backlash against these bonuses

00:15:25.820 at the cbc so what does the cbc uh brass do well they think they come up with a very clever solution

00:15:31.420 they say okay folks we're going to end the bonuses well not quite so records that the ctf obtained from

00:15:38.300 the cbc shows that they did cancel the bonuses but then they turned around and jacked up the salaries

00:15:45.900 massively okay so last year the cbc handed out record high pay raises of 38 million dollars for

00:15:54.460 comparison in the year before in 2023 they handed out 11 and a half million dollars okay so the higher

00:16:02.060 pay raises more than offset the elimination of the bonuses so essentially what the cbc did is they

00:16:07.580 didn't listen to canadians they didn't save canadian taxpayers any money they were just trying to

00:16:12.620 avoid a bad press day by ending the bonuses and then turning around and jacking up the salaries

00:16:18.860 with these massive massive pay raises you know i'm wondering if they thought that canadians would fall

00:16:26.380 for this that if they just removed the big label on the bucket of money that says bonuses and squeaked

00:16:32.780 on a sharpie that says pay raises instead that people would just be fine with it good on you for

00:16:38.300 finding that out i really wanted to ask you this though what kind of did we get pushback on this

00:16:42.940 like did the cbc get all huffy about this us calling them out on this yeah they did uh i can't remember

00:16:48.620 exactly what they said but they're they're upset that we're calling it a sleight of hand well we're

00:16:53.180 upset with you for costing taxpayers so much money okay so we're upset with you too so uh the feeling is

00:16:59.020 mutual uh yeah they got upset about it but look i mean what they did is they ended the bonuses kind

00:17:05.100 of right except when you read the fine print they just turn around and hand out record high pay raises

00:17:09.740 so look i mean the moral of the story here for for taxpayers is this right the cbc's own records show

00:17:15.420 that it has a bloated bureaucracy full of highly paid managers managing managers um the the next takeaway

00:17:22.460 is that you know the six-figure salaries at the cbc has ballooned by more than 300 since 2015 and

00:17:29.980 finally well look the cbc isn't saving taxpayers money if it just replaces taxpayer funded bonuses

00:17:36.300 with higher taxpayer funded pay raises so look uh the only way to really end the gravy train and oh

00:17:41.980 boy is it full steam ahead is to just defund the cbc yeah big time i will end on this two things one

00:17:49.900 i think it was in your first round of a tips that you were talking about there where we were listing

00:17:54.140 all the managers managing managers and the advisors and the whatever lead architect people um that all

00:18:00.700 make up just picture an office tower okay full of humans that's the cbc and you're paying for it all

00:18:07.180 okay it's not the folks out there in the field um there were like what 200 roles that were blacked out

00:18:14.300 there i remember looking at the documents and i think there's around 200 positions and i'm using

00:18:19.740 that word because i don't know how else to describe it because we don't have the names we don't have

00:18:24.860 the roles we don't have the amount of money they're making we know they're making more than 100 grand

00:18:29.980 but we don't know their names and we don't know their roles but we're still paying for it is that

00:18:34.300 what's happening yeah they redacted more than uh 200 roles okay they did yeah okay transparent crazy

00:18:42.060 and for folks who are like oh well maybe it's a host and it's a state secret no no there are hosts

00:18:46.380 listed on there okay including with some of their names so it's not that so i don't know who these

00:18:51.820 phantom people are but you're paying for them 200 of them lastly the cbc is trying to make it so that

00:18:59.340 we can't find out how much they're spending on advertising okay and we're not asking for trade

00:19:04.620 secrets of exactly how you got some great ad deal or whatever no no we're asking for the lump sum amount

00:19:10.620 of what the cbc the state broadcaster is spending on advertising outside so when you're watching

00:19:16.620 hockey or something and you see another ad for cbc gem how much is all that costing you cumulatively

00:19:22.940 they're refusing to tell us so even though it's taxpayers money they're refusing to tell us so

00:19:27.340 that's why the canadian taxpayers federation is fighting the cbc on that front uh franco thank you so

00:19:33.420 much for your time today thank you for actually putting names and numbers to the long-held suspicion

00:19:39.900 that the cbc is super management heavy we actually have a joint op-ed that's coming out in the toronto

00:19:46.060 sun newspaper chain on this describing the blob that has taken over the cbc thank you so much hey thank

00:19:53.180 you chris there you have it folks this is why it is so important to subscribe and to support independent

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Juno News - August 04, 2025

Why Canada’s EV mandate won’t work + CBC stacked with six-figure bureaucrats

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