Juno News - December 17, 2025


Why Carney’s “tax cut” still hurts Canadians


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Summary

In this episode of The Fighter with Chris Simons, the Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation (CTF) joins us to talk about some of the major tax changes coming up in the new calendar year, including a proposed hike in payroll taxes, a new consumer carbon tax, and a proposed increase in income taxes.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 welcome to the fighter with chris sims i am chris sims i'm the alberta director for the
00:00:09.960 canadian taxpayers federation it's that time of year everyone is getting ready to celebrate the
00:00:15.580 holidays and christmas and they're gearing up for new years now to most normal people
00:00:21.140 we start thinking of resolutions like eating better taking better care of our health perhaps
00:00:25.900 trying to save some money and there's the rub right because there's the government with its
00:00:31.500 handout or maybe sometimes even giving you a tax break one can hope right we've got a great guest
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00:01:18.100 okay so there's a lot of new year's tax changes coming up in the next calendar year and of course
00:01:25.180 the gentleman behind that report is my colleague and friend franco terrazzano he's joining us now
00:01:30.780 he's the federal director for the canadian taxpayers federation we've got him stationed in mordor
00:01:35.960 also known as ottawa franco just hit me what are the major new year's tax changes that we can expect
00:01:42.680 after january one hits look high level it's it's a bit of a mixed bag in the new year okay there's
00:01:48.440 some good news there's some bad news for taxpayers in 2026 so on the one hand you have the federal
00:01:53.960 government cutting income taxes but on the other hand you have the federal government hiking payroll
00:01:58.920 taxes on the one hand you have the government cancel the consumer carbon tax but on the other hand you
00:02:04.400 have the federal government hammering canadian businesses with a higher industrial carbon tax okay so
00:02:09.820 you know what carney is giving with his left hand he's taking away with his right hand now overall
00:02:15.460 if you look at the current state of canada if you look at the affordability you look at the economic
00:02:19.200 crunch uh this doesn't go nearly far enough we need massive serious tax cutting and if you want to
00:02:25.460 talk about a new year's resolution carney's new year's resolution the new year's resolution for ottawa
00:02:30.220 should be to embark on a massive tax cutting campaign to make life more affordable and to help get our
00:02:36.760 economy firing on all cylinders yeah i was just chatting with some family over the weekend and
00:02:41.760 somebody had posted one of those memes of well if y'all kids would have just lived within your means
00:02:46.440 like they did in the 1960s you'd all have mansions by now and it was crazy nonsense because frankly even
00:02:52.500 just our tax burden has gone crazy over the last few generations now we don't need a whole history less
00:02:58.180 going back to then but can you just give us a state of play of you'd mentioned payroll taxes
00:03:03.240 explain what payroll taxes are why they are taxes and where does it balance out like will the average
00:03:10.100 person still wind up saving a couple of bucks on this income tax cut or will it be a wash well look
00:03:16.420 uh income tax versus payroll tax so payroll taxes are are a form of income tax right it comes off your
00:03:21.800 paycheck you notice it kick in in the new year beginning of january and it's what the government
00:03:26.500 forces you to pay through the cpp the canada pension plan nei but it is a tax right there is no way of
00:03:33.140 getting around it uh you are forced by the government to pay this amount of money uh from
00:03:38.780 your paycheck it is a mandatory tax that the government takes off of your paycheck every
00:03:43.680 single year okay so payroll taxes this year uh for a worker making 85 000 or more uh payroll taxes
00:03:51.180 are going to cost you about 5 770 bucks but your employer is also so the business you work for is
00:03:57.880 also to force uh to pay payroll tax as well so you're you're losing about 5 700 bucks right off
00:04:04.200 your paycheck uh your employer is also forced to hand over about 6 200 bucks so this year's payroll
00:04:11.380 tax hike chris is about 262 for that worker making 85 000 or more now uh you ask a great question how does
00:04:20.340 that compare with the income tax well it depends on your income but essentially you're really no better
00:04:27.520 no less right it depends on your income but you're really not getting much tax relief when you look
00:04:32.500 at both of those measures the income tax cut and the payroll tax hike so the income tax the average
00:04:37.980 taxpayer will save about 190 bucks next year again depends on income but again that payroll tax increase
00:04:44.740 for that worker making 85 grand or more is going to cost you an extra 262 bucks so you're pretty well
00:04:51.680 square you know it's a small difference here or there that's so annoying uh you bring up the employer
00:04:57.340 element of it and i think a lot of folks who've only ever worked salary don't think of that like
00:05:02.600 it's so easy to just forget what kind of an impact that will have like on your employer a that means
00:05:07.940 that's money that they can't give you as a raise exactly there it is right there yeah there it is
00:05:12.260 right there right so uh obviously it hurts small businesses the most right like that's just thousands
00:05:17.780 of dollars per each of those employees that the small business has to fork over to the government
00:05:21.960 but really it's also a tax on the worker because that's like the government the businesses put
00:05:27.080 aside a certain amount of money that they would pay into an employee right well if they have to then
00:05:31.280 pay 6200 bucks to the government that's 6200 bucks that you're not getting as the employee so i love that
00:05:38.000 you bring that up even the tax on a business is a tax on the worker yeah because where else is the
00:05:45.100 money gonna go that's so frustrating okay so we've established payroll taxes or taxes we've established
00:05:50.020 that it's going to be a wash except for on the employer side of things which is again money that
00:05:54.620 they can't use to either give that employee a raise put back into improving their business perhaps lower
00:06:00.000 their prices all that jazz so again more money being taken out of businesses employers and employees
00:06:06.240 workers pockets for the new year eventually maybe it'll be a wash with the payroll taxes included
00:06:11.660 um question on the carbon tax and again i don't actually know the answer to this you were telling me
00:06:18.220 when we were doing the naughty and nice list that the industrial carbon tax does that go up january 1
00:06:24.400 and not april 1 the way that we were used to with the consumer carbon tax or is that just going to be
00:06:29.700 alberta no no uh so the industrial carbon tax from the federal government it works the same way as the
00:06:35.320 consumer carbon tax does in the sense that it applies to all canadians okay where it's different
00:06:41.760 than the consumer carbon tax is right in the regs it says that it's on a calendar year basis right so i think
00:06:47.840 everyone should take that to mean uh january through december so again the industrial carbon tax is going up
00:06:53.660 and that's the carbon tax on oil and gas steel fertilizer businesses among others um now look like we kind of
00:07:00.900 talked about this on the income tax versus payroll tax it's the same story on carbon taxes right you had the
00:07:06.680 government cancel the consumer facing carbon tax but in through budget 2025 through that memorandum of
00:07:13.340 understanding with alberta carney has given every indication that he's going to continue to crank up
00:07:18.380 the carbon tax that he hammers canadian's canadian businesses with and look the effect is twofold
00:07:24.440 number one a carbon tax is a carbon tax is a carbon tax it doesn't matter what type of lipstick
00:07:29.500 politicians smear on their carbon tax pig it makes your life more expensive okay and that is a feature of
00:07:35.880 the carbon tax it's not a bug but with this industrial carbon tax it also hurts our economic
00:07:41.320 competitiveness okay one point is the only point you need to know the u.s no industrial carbon tax
00:07:47.760 no national carbon tax from the white house so guess where our entrepreneurs are going to go are they
00:07:53.560 going to stay here in in canada where their carbon tax or are they going to set up shops south of the
00:07:57.760 border brutal um i gotta ask it's kind of a gut feeling after carney signed that mou and again
00:08:06.160 we don't got no pipeline like i'll i'll believe it when i see the pipeline maybe um and even then
00:08:12.440 carbon tax hikes i don't think are worth it because it's just a foot in the door um as soon as he
00:08:16.740 finished signing that mou in calgary he looked pretty darn pleased with himself when he went out and
00:08:21.100 talked to the media and said that now the industrial carbon tax is going to be six times higher do you
00:08:26.320 think that's going to go across the board like do you think that that's his his plan for every
00:08:31.480 province he wants it to be in essence six times higher than it is right now is that we're on track
00:08:36.880 for well look i'm so glad you flagged that because that's something that all canadians and all albertans
00:08:42.840 need to know of is right after signing the agreement with premier daniel smith he goes he does his own
00:08:48.100 press conference and he tells the media it means a more than six times increase in the industrial carbon
00:08:53.680 tax okay that was straight from carney uh but look i i think canadians have every reason to believe
00:08:59.460 that that doesn't just imply to albertans that that's going to imply to all canadians right all
00:09:05.320 canadians are going to have to be forced to pay that higher carbon tax on canadian business and you
00:09:10.260 know if we can think back to the election uh carney was essentially trying to spin canadians right
00:09:15.840 carney was like oh don't worry folks it's just going to be the big businesses that pay the carbon tax
00:09:20.840 blah blah blah well unfortunately for carney canadians understand the simple reality and a
00:09:26.540 legé poll showed that about 70 percent of canadians understand that a carbon tax on business uh most or
00:09:34.060 some of those costs will be passed on to consumers right because look when the government carbon taxes
00:09:38.800 refineries that makes your gasoline and diesel more expensive when a government carbon taxes your
00:09:43.940 utilities that makes uh your heating bill more expensive and when the government carbon taxes
00:09:49.160 fertilizer plants well that increases costs for farmers and that makes your grocery haul more
00:09:54.000 expensive this just sounds so similar to the consumer carbon tax it's just going to be really
00:09:59.600 hidden um i've been taking some pictures of some gas prices around town so right now if you get it
00:10:05.540 cheap it's about a buck 15 buck 14 a liter for regular um i'm going to be keeping a really close eye
00:10:11.200 on that when the calendar year rolls around to see if there's any increase there that you can actually
00:10:15.560 see i'm i'm frustrated because we ask our supporters here at the taxpayers federation and i'm very uh
00:10:22.740 safe in saying that they really want pipelines and they think that pipelines are a great idea
00:10:28.880 but they don't trust carney or ottawa as far as they can throw it so they they don't trust any of this
00:10:37.060 they don't want carbon taxes but they do want pipelines are we done with carbon taxes for now do you
00:10:42.120 want to move on to booze tax hikes for the new year yeah let's go on to booze tax uh booze tax hikes
00:10:49.140 well you know carney is uh continuing his predecessor's tradition of binging on booze taxes
00:10:56.380 right so uh federal alcohol taxes are again going to increase this year uh we're looking at a two
00:11:01.620 percent federal alcohol tax increase on april 1 2026 it looks like the tax hike will cost um taxpayers
00:11:08.720 about 41 million dollars in the next year but like that that even underscores how much money the
00:11:14.880 federal government has been taking from these alcohol taxes so in 2017 under the trudeau government
00:11:20.400 they brought in what's known as an alcohol escalator tax so every year federal alcohol taxes have been
00:11:27.760 cre have been increasing essentially with inflation but without a vote in parliament okay so two things
00:11:35.520 number one fundamentally undemocratic right if politicians want to take more money from you
00:11:40.880 they should at least have the spine to vote on that tax increase but that's not what's going on
00:11:46.080 with the alcohol tax hike since 2017 but number two right smaller tax increases over time year after
00:11:53.520 year after year lead to big tax increases for canadians so since 2017 this trudeau era undemocratic
00:12:02.800 escalator tax has cost taxpayers about 1.6 billion dollars so you see how these you know relatively
00:12:10.960 smaller tax increases over time end up being a huge bill for canadians over the long haul
00:12:18.000 really winds up nickel and diamond you to death um and you and i have done many videos right around new
00:12:23.200 years where we show the actual cost of taxes and i i was still blown away isn't it something crazy like
00:12:29.760 over half the price half the cost of beer is taxes wine 70 and how much is spirits like for hard liquor
00:12:37.440 yeah so look i don't have the most recent numbers off the top of my head but what is fair to say is
00:12:43.680 that about half the price of alcohol is taxes in canada right so you're buying yourself a drink you're
00:12:50.640 essentially buying one for the tax man as well right like half the price of of alcohol you know whether
00:12:56.160 it's the beer the wine the spirits you you add them together half the price is is just taxes to
00:13:01.520 to the different levels of government which is absolutely insane i mean welcome to canada folks
00:13:05.840 right like i mean these taxes sure can drive you to drink that's for sure but it's gonna cost you a
00:13:11.360 lot more oh sure will all right uh we've got an entire report on this right if somebody really wants
00:13:17.600 to nerd out and go take a look at other provinces and find out what major changes there are like here in
00:13:22.240 alberta there aren't really any major changes there are at city level but that would take us all year
00:13:27.840 to write up every single municipality's property tax increases uh cliff notes they're going up really
00:13:33.360 high in edmonton not quite as high in calgary for property tax increases where can people find more
00:13:38.880 data on new year's tax changes and what folks should be prepared for well chris how much time do we have
00:13:44.640 left like do you want me to give you a quick rundown or should i just tell people where to go
00:13:47.680 okay you can give us a quick rundown and then tell us all where to go franco yeah yeah so uh
00:13:52.800 look uh i'll give you some of the highlights and low lights from some of the provinces that are that
00:13:56.880 we're seeing real change so saskatchewan uh they set the industrial carbon tax rate to zero so kudos to
00:14:03.120 premier scott mo uh making saskatchewan the first carbon tax-free province in all of canada uh that's
00:14:08.960 saving families about hundreds of dollars now just east of saskatchewan is manitoba bad news there
00:14:16.000 because in the last budget they brought in this sneaky backdoor income tax hike known as bracket
00:14:21.600 creep when governments stop indexing tax brackets with inflation uh essentially the government's
00:14:27.360 using inflation to fatten its own coffers so bad marks over there in manitoba let's now go to quebec
00:14:33.680 quebec is the only province in canada with a consumer carbon tax right so uh all the other uh
00:14:40.640 provinces like british columbia all the other provinces under the federal jurisdiction
00:14:44.800 um they ended their consumer carbon tax back on april one quebec kept it uh some good no good
00:14:50.400 news will end here in nova scotia uh we saw the nova scotia government um cut its sales tax it cut
00:14:56.880 income taxes and it cut small business taxes so some good news for taxpayers there in nova scotia i know
00:15:02.880 uh our our friends out there in atlanta canada sorely need tax relief but those are the highlights
00:15:08.400 lowlights from the provinces folks if you want to learn more head over to taxpayer.com click on the newsroom
00:15:13.680 and you can see our new year's tax changes report for 2026. thank you thank you so much for joining
00:15:20.160 us today hey thank you chris sims once again that is franco terrazzano he is the federal director of
00:15:26.640 the canadian taxpayers federation my friend and colleague and seriously the the report is very
00:15:31.440 well written it's easy to understand it's in normal people talk and some of the numbers in there
00:15:36.720 might surprise you what franco points out there by the way is really important a lot of people might
00:15:41.760 think that the maritimes are oh you know cheap living or low cost of living blah blah blah actually
00:15:47.760 their tax burden is nuts like the combined sales taxes in most places of atlantic canada makes so
00:15:55.440 many things crazily expensive so yeah nice to hear that they're actually getting some form of tax relief
00:16:02.480 in nova scotia folks head on over to taxpayer.com and check out that report and you'll find out what you
00:16:08.160 can brace yourself for in the new year and of course this is where you get this kind of information is
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