Juno News - Why won’t politicians put Canada First？

00:00:00.000 Well, Donald Trump has come in from the top rope on Canada with a threat of a 25% tariff on all

00:00:15.520 Canadian imports into the U.S. if Canada does not solve our open border issue. He has come in with

00:00:23.620 a tweet threatening this country with tariffs that has sent our Canadian political establishment

00:00:28.980 into a tizzy. Everybody is talking about this. This is the news that is dominating Canadian

00:00:34.940 politics, and that is what we are going to get to on Northern Dispatch today. Thank you all for

00:00:39.980 tuning in and joining us. Before we get into the show, we are going to read out some comments from

00:00:44.960 last episode, and we're also going to give you a poll question at the end. The first comment we have

00:00:49.480 is from Rojas YouTubification. He writes, 50K penalty on $110 million is a bargain. How about

00:00:58.460 jail time, criminal records, having to pay it back? Our institutions really are insane. What

00:01:04.980 a joke. I understand the frustration. I have to agree there with the frustration when it comes

00:01:10.960 to accountability.

00:01:11.460 Our next comment is from Ian Leslie 6971. So many scandals, so little jail time. Isn't that

00:01:18.700 the truth? We want accountability in this government.

00:01:21.320 And the last one is Dieter 111. I don't trust anyone in Parliament at all. The swamp goes deep.

00:01:28.840 I feel we will be surprised on who's involved in foreign interference. The swamp needs to be drained

00:01:34.980 completely. So I think it's really reasonable to see that many Canadians probably feel that way after 10

00:01:44.520 years of the Justin Trudeau government. And unfortunately, when it comes to holding them accountable,

00:01:50.040 you really only have the Conservatives that are putting their foot forward. But I think there is

00:01:56.880 a lot of hope for the next government as the Conservatives are already talking about their

00:02:02.300 commitments to implement anti-corruption laws. And I think they may end up being a lot more severe than

00:02:09.000 than what Mr. Barrett's C405 bill is going to be proposing. But, you know, the other thing to consider

00:02:18.880 is we also need to be calling out our MPs when they are doing something positive. So if they stand up and

00:02:27.040 say something, if they do something, if they vote a certain way that you agree with, it's really, really good

00:02:33.100 idea to send them an email because they need to know when we approve of what they're doing as well.

00:02:39.000 Well, it was Teddy Roosevelt, I believe, that said the Americans should walk carefully and carry a big

00:02:47.180 stick. My exact language might not be exact, but when it comes to Donald Trump, he seems to be

00:02:52.980 carrying a big stick and walking very loudly. He has come in on Monday and wrote this. I'll read it

00:03:01.360 out to you in full because it really does impact Canada quite significantly. If you've been living under

00:03:08.120 Iraq, this will be news to you. He wrote on Monday on Truth Social,

00:03:12.060 As everyone is aware, thousands of people are pouring through Mexico and Canada,

00:03:16.340 bringing crime and drugs at levels never seen before. Right now, a caravan coming from Mexico,

00:03:21.920 composed of thousands of people, seems to be unstoppable in its quest to come through our

00:03:26.460 countries, our currently open border. On January 20th, as one of my many first executive orders,

00:03:32.000 I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% tariff on all products

00:03:38.820 coming into the United States and its ridiculous open borders. This tariff will remain in effect until

00:03:44.900 such time as drugs, in particular fentanyl, and all illegal aliens, stop this invasion of our country.

00:03:51.380 Both Mexico and Canada have the absolute right and power to easily solve this long-simmering problem.

00:03:55.840 We hereby demand that they use this power, and until such time that they do, it is time for them to pay

00:04:01.340 a very big price. All right, Ryan, what did you think when you saw this news on Monday night?

00:04:08.720 Well, it wasn't surprising, but it's always jarring when Donald Trump makes one of his really bold

00:04:18.240 assertive claims. And I think a lot of people forget what the Trump presidency was like the last time

00:04:23.580 around because this was the norm. And I think the mainstream media absolutely loved Donald Trump

00:04:30.620 because there was always something to talk about. Now, when it comes to Canada, I think the initial

00:04:37.640 thought after that kind of shock and awe kind of wore off was if he is serious, this is going to cripple

00:04:45.920 Canada's economy, especially when exporting to the United States. I also thought about how well this

00:04:55.360 actually plays into the conservative political game right now, because right now, the news was

00:05:04.360 shifting into this GST holiday that Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh have been kind of quarreling over

00:05:11.380 like an old married couple. And what ended up happening is this completely changed that news

00:05:18.740 cycle. Nobody's talking about the GST anymore. Everyone is talking about the tariffs. So

00:05:22.060 Pierre Polyev got ahead of this very smartly, called an emergency debate to happen in the House on the

00:05:29.820 issue, issued his statement. And that's when we started hearing about Canada first, which sounds a lot

00:05:36.060 like America first, but you you also can't fault the Americans for putting their country first. And it's

00:05:43.300 about time that Canadians put our country first and our politicians put our country first because that's what we

00:05:49.660 have seen over the last 10 years is it seems like Canada is last on our government's priority list. What do you

00:05:56.000 think? And well, yeah, I was just going to jump in there. But I want to just throw it over to you, Tanya.

00:06:01.060 Justin Trudeau seems to be he doesn't seem to be too scared about this. He's like, maybe he's just

00:06:07.980 trying to put on a good face to pretend that all is well in this country. What did you make of Justin

00:06:13.120 Trudeau's response, as well as the response from the opposition as as Ryan said, calling for Canada

00:06:18.860 to be put first? Well, I thought Trudeau's response was weak when we have one of our allies saying

00:06:26.400 there's there's concerns with our border that we share. And because you're not taking it seriously

00:06:31.820 enough, we're going to be putting tariffs on you. And the Prime Minister just doesn't really take it

00:06:38.440 that seriously. Either he doesn't care, or the other thing, maybe he knows he's going to be gone

00:06:44.060 very soon. So that's why he's not taking it seriously. Now, the Conservatives, I think, put forward

00:06:49.060 a very strong and appropriate response, which was to call an emergency debate in the House of Commons,

00:06:54.720 the NDP party, I think, beat them to the punch, because I think that's whose motion they were

00:06:59.660 technically debating on Tuesday. But the point is that everybody got to participate in this

00:07:05.900 emergency debate. And they were talking about what they're going to do going forward regarding

00:07:09.700 these tariffs. Well, the other interesting thing is that the NDP took this so seriously that their

00:07:15.660 leader Jagmeet Singh was nowhere to be found during the emergency debate. This was so important to their

00:07:21.100 party that their leader was nowhere to be found. Yet, he was there just a couple of hours earlier

00:07:26.400 in question period. He was there a couple hours earlier for his photo op and his press conference

00:07:30.880 out front. But he didn't bother to join the debate. Meanwhile, Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives did.

00:07:36.940 And, you know, the interesting thing is, so the debate went all the way until midnight, until the actual

00:07:42.920 end of the day when the House of Commons ran out of resources.

00:07:45.860 And they discussed a few things. So they raised humanitarian concerns. They raised concerns about

00:07:53.420 the border security. They talked about the Safe Third Country Agreement, which many Canadians

00:07:59.380 may know from some of our previous videos on Northern Perspective. And also True North has talked about

00:08:05.220 this extensively as well. And the fact that that needs to be completely, you know, rewritten, I think,

00:08:10.940 from the ground up. And all of the different support that they're going to need, and the strain that's

00:08:16.780 on our system, as a result of how we're handling our borders now.

00:08:21.540 Right, exactly. It just doesn't seem as though that within two months, based on the threat that

00:08:26.880 Donald Trump has levied against our country, it doesn't seem that within two months, solving this

00:08:32.900 crisis is even possible. The decisions that need to be made are ones that run completely contrary to

00:08:38.600 Justin Trudeau's longstanding agenda on immigration. It will have to, it will have to bring about a

00:08:45.780 complete reversal of thought in this country when it comes to immigration, if we are to achieve what

00:08:52.220 Donald Trump is asking us to achieve. And I also think that the idea that we should be penalized to

00:08:58.920 the same extent that Mexico is penalized over fentanyl and immigration is absurd. There's something else

00:09:07.000 going on here, I think, perhaps a way to bully us into accepting a worse deal at a trade renegotiation.

00:09:14.180 But this is just ridiculous. Yes, we have a problem. A terrorist is 10 times more likely to

00:09:20.220 cross into the United States from Canada than from Mexico since 9-11. That's what we've been told by

00:09:25.760 Trump's incoming borders are. We know that there are a significant number of known or suspected

00:09:31.220 terrorists who have entered the U.S. illegally from our country. We've not been a good neighbor when it

00:09:35.880 comes to the border. But we are a good neighbor when it comes to exporting energy to the United

00:09:40.640 States. In fact, they rely on Canadian energy. So I really don't know why we are being treated

00:09:46.860 the same way Mexico is being treated, a country, in my opinion, that is not a friend of the United

00:09:51.980 States.

00:09:53.600 Well, and it's a completely different relationship between Canada and the U.S.

00:10:00.000 I think we're known the world over as the two countries that have, I would say, the most

00:10:06.500 collaborative relationship, both in terms of policy and in terms of our economy. So just

00:10:13.700 Ontario, I believe, does $5 billion worth of trade with the United States. So that's 10

00:10:22.440 times more than some of the other trade deals we have with individual countries around the

00:10:26.100 world. So that's the important relationship that we have with the United States. As for the

00:10:33.920 terrorism aspect, I think Canadians believe Trump's borders are because we narrowly missed a terrorist

00:10:42.620 attack in our own country because we gave citizenship to a terrorist. You know, one that was actually

00:10:48.780 filmed dismembering people online. It was just disgusting what was going on. So

00:10:55.380 and this is a result of Trudeau's open border policies. Like, let's let's just be real. And

00:11:02.580 now the liberals are getting absolutely hammered on immigration. This is the first time in, I think,

00:11:08.880 100 years that Canadians on the whole are saying, you know what, I don't think immigration is a good

00:11:13.780 thing. And it's not because of the people. It's because of the policy. Right. And let's get we'll get

00:11:19.860 into the immigration angle in just a minute. But I want to ask you, Tonya, did you see that the

00:11:26.160 Canada first messaging that the Conservatives have embraced in the past two days in the wake of this

00:11:31.680 announcement by Donald Trump? Did you see that coming? Because frankly, it's refreshing to hear,

00:11:36.800 but I didn't see it coming. I didn't expect them to go all in on Canada first, something I think they

00:11:42.340 might have objected to just a few years ago. Yeah, I don't think I did see it coming personally,

00:11:46.880 but I think it's a good message because you can't take care of other people or other nations if you

00:11:53.880 can't take care of yourself first. I think that's a basic tenet of even being a mom, you know, you got

00:11:59.840 to make sure that you're okay and that you're healthy in order to take care of your family. And

00:12:04.540 it's kind of the same with Canada first, we need to make sure that we're strong, that we have a good

00:12:09.320 military, that we have a robust economy, if we're going to help other countries. Well, and the other

00:12:15.080 thing I think it shows is that for the first time in 10 years, you have somebody showing actual

00:12:21.040 leadership in this country, you haven't seen that before. So, you know, Canadians have been begging

00:12:26.920 for someone, anyone to take a stand on something. What Trudeau does is he placates to every single

00:12:34.340 group and tries to give everybody what they want all the time at the expense of the country. So when

00:12:40.760 you have Pierre standing up and saying, listen, Donald Trump has the right to put America first, but we

00:12:47.260 have the right to put Canadians first. So I think it was really smart of him to come out with that line,

00:12:51.900 because he's not, he's not criticizing Donald Trump. He's saying, I respect what he wants for his country,

00:12:57.360 but we should be demanding the same for our country. And I think that sets him up as a very

00:13:02.840 respectable negotiating partner with Donald Trump. It sets up his, his potential ideology that is

00:13:11.120 similar to Donald Trump. So it makes, makes it seem like to, that he may be easier to deal with.

00:13:17.980 And it also says to Canadians that, you know what, I'm not going to back down, I'm going to put you

00:13:22.400 first. And you know, I get the impression, not that I obviously know what's going on in the United

00:13:29.180 States to at a political level in terms of Donald Trump's decision-making cabinet. But I get the

00:13:35.600 impression that Trump respects strength. He respects people who are going to stand up for their own

00:13:41.300 people in their own interests. And he does not respect weakness. And that is something I think that

00:13:46.660 is very obvious when it came to his negotiating tactic with Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland and the

00:13:53.260 rest of the Canadian representation. So what do you guys think Canada first looks like? You know, he talked about

00:13:59.000 putting the military first, he talked about cleaning up the drugs issue in our country. But, and I think

00:14:04.240 it all, he also tried to hint at what that might look like on a trade level. But one of the, one of

00:14:09.800 the things that's obvious in the wake of this is that 80% of Canada's trade is with the United States.

00:14:15.040 We are completely beholden to the decisions of the United States. Perhaps maybe Pierre Poyev will look

00:14:21.900 to try to, you know, retake control of Canada's supply chains, strengthen Canadian industry and

00:14:28.580 diversify our trade so that we can be, we can chart our own destiny and not be, not be put at the

00:14:34.940 whims of the United States. What do you guys think of that?

00:14:38.640 Well, he's, Pierre has been talking about for the last two years about unlocking Canada's potential in

00:14:44.840 terms of our natural resource. We've talked ad nauseum, I think across our channel, True North,

00:14:51.640 and then you hear it even on mainstream media about all of these other countries that have been

00:14:55.880 banging on our door for our natural gas. And Justin Trudeau has said, No, you know, there's

00:15:01.060 no business case for it. Whereas if we actually start taking advantage of our natural resources,

00:15:07.960 there is massive potential for the worldwide market, not just the United States. If we are

00:15:13.740 able to actually get pipelines, for example, out to British Columbia from, from Alberta, you know,

00:15:19.900 there is a massive Asian market that would love for our, our crude oil and our natural gas. Japan was

00:15:28.020 one of the suitors coming and asking us for a natural gas. So, you know, that would allow us to

00:15:33.180 diversify that and it would allow us to potentially increase the price that we sell to, to the United

00:15:39.000 States on because they will now know we have other suitors. So better competition is, is good for

00:15:45.760 Canada. But it also will help us in our negotiating position with the United States, right? It's not

00:15:52.300 putting all of our eggs in one basket, something like almost 80% of our trade is done with the

00:15:56.860 United States. And it's great to have a trading partner that is that close with us. But at the

00:16:01.740 same time, if something happens, like if tariffs are put on Canada, then we're in trouble, right? We

00:16:07.680 don't have anybody else we could go to, I think we need to diversify our trading relationships. And that

00:16:12.300 will benefit Canadians as a whole. Well, to your other point, Harrison, I think one of the reasons

00:16:16.420 it's 80% is because we don't make a lot in Canada. So we need to be looking at giving some sort of

00:16:24.860 incentive for businesses to come to Canada to set up factories and manufacturing depots. We saw it in

00:16:31.460 the pandemic, we were so reliant on the world market that we, we were out of almost everything,

00:16:37.760 you could see it on the store shelves. So if we started making more in Canada, you know, that

00:16:42.460 decreases that reliance, it increases our export potential increases the amount of jobs, and better

00:16:48.460 paying jobs. So and it also allows us to have much more trading partners throughout the world. So

00:16:54.180 I think that is what Pierre means by by a Canada first approach. And that's not going to, I think,

00:17:02.160 detract from the relationship from the United States, right? I think that it may in fact help us,

00:17:06.920 as you point out, because it's, it's economically strengthening our position. And it shows that we

00:17:10.560 have backbone. Another thing that I just can't believe is we have interprovincial trade barriers

00:17:14.580 in this country, which should not, in my opinion, exist at all. That is how you handcuff yourself.

00:17:20.420 I want to now move to the other country that is receiving these, these tariffs, Mexico,

00:17:26.740 and the new president of Mexico has trotted out a line of defense to these tariffs that I find to be

00:17:34.400 frankly, almost insulting. And I want to read it out to the audience. The Mexican president

00:17:39.040 Scheinbaum said that, and I'm just going to quote her directly, 70% of the illegal weapons seized from

00:17:46.660 criminals in Mexico come from your country, the United States. We do not produce these weapons,

00:17:52.000 nor do we consume synthetic drugs. Tragically, it is in our country that lives are lost to the

00:17:57.800 violence resulting from meeting the drug demand in yours. That is shocking in my opinion, because we

00:18:04.500 all know that the Mexican drug cartels are responsible for producing the drugs that have

00:18:11.000 resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of young Canadians and Americans in our country,

00:18:17.480 reaping havoc across our country and causing absolute devastation. To try to turn that around and to blame

00:18:24.080 the victims in this drug trade and not your own country. That is essentially a narco state. I think

00:18:32.000 shows that we should not be in a free trade deal with the Mexicans. What do you guys make of that

00:18:36.380 response? Well, you look at exactly what she said. She said, well, we don't consume, consume,

00:18:42.800 you know, synthetic drugs. That might be true. It doesn't mean you're not making them. It doesn't mean

00:18:47.740 you're not shipping them across the border, which I don't even understand how you can say that to your

00:18:53.280 point, because we've known this for decades. And the US has been working for decades to try and deal

00:18:59.480 with that. Yeah, there's some fentanyl coming in from from Canada, most likely as a result of the safe

00:19:06.460 supply that is being taken for free and then sold to people. We've seen that, you know, evidence of

00:19:12.020 that being distributed all over the country. Never mind the fact that the liberals, you know, would like

00:19:15.980 to deny that. But that's another story. So that doesn't make any, any sense to me whatsoever.

00:19:23.860 And in fact, you know, the Mexican population, they're not the demographic that they want to

00:19:30.040 sell to anyway, because the the average American is far wealthier and has far more money to buy these

00:19:35.580 drugs than than people in the Mexican, Mexican population. Yeah, it is. It is shocking. And,

00:19:42.540 you know, we do have fentanyl production in this country. We are, in fact, a exporter of fentanyl now

00:19:49.120 and not just a net importer. But as I have reported on in my show, the materials used to produce that

00:19:57.600 fentanyl in Canada, those precursor chemicals come from Mexican drug cartels and the Chinese.

00:20:03.860 So again, I find that that the decision to turn it around and to blame Americans blame victims for

00:20:12.300 this is, is really disappointing. And I will just say, I just returned from El Salvador, I spoke to a

00:20:18.180 Honduran who was involved in politics there, we spoke about the drugs issue. And he said the same

00:20:23.040 sort of thing, actually, that we should not we should not be blamed. We should not be the target of

00:20:29.180 the of the frustration by the United States as a country in which drug drugs pass through, because the

00:20:36.240 demand in the United States is what is causing this issue. Tanya, the Mexicans have responded with

00:20:42.300 tariffs, threatening of tariffs in kind, if they are to receive these tariffs. Do you think Canada should

00:20:47.480 respond with tariffs of our own? Or should we perhaps avoid getting into a trade war here?

00:20:52.600 I think avoiding a trade war is probably going to be the best route because many of our goods do come

00:20:59.980 from the United States. So putting tariffs on things that you need, especially like medical supplies,

00:21:06.060 that's a big problem. Tariffs really only work when you're producing it at home, but the other

00:21:12.180 country is producing it for cheaper. Well, the other thing I would say is that unless Trump has lost his

00:21:21.560 mind, which there's no reason to believe that he has, he knows that they are reliant on Canadian,

00:21:28.880 you know, crude oil. So to actually put a tariff on that would drastically hurt, you know, the supply

00:21:36.900 that they get from from Canada. So that's that's one part on that. And, and although I don't agree

00:21:42.940 with the tariffs, I think that it's actually a good thing that that Trump, you know, made this

00:21:48.260 proclamation because it's gotten our government to to have a kick in the butt because there's all

00:21:54.680 these problems along the border. And people have been screaming at the liberals about this for

00:21:59.700 years, and it's forcing them to finally take a look at it. Now, I think I think where this will

00:22:06.300 probably go is if we can at least come up with a plan, you don't necessarily need to resolve it by

00:22:12.160 January. But if you can come up with a plan, then that will mitigate the concern. And you can start

00:22:18.420 having conversations on, you know, what this may look like if there's even going to be a tariff. So

00:22:23.860 although 25% is the is the starting position, as we know, Trump is the businessman, that's not going

00:22:31.340 to be his final position if you play it correctly. Right. And the messaging has changed, changed

00:22:37.960 immediately after Donald Trump made that threat. We now have the liberals gaslighting Canadians about

00:22:45.820 the strength of their immigration plan, how strong they are on the border, and how how committed they

00:22:52.000 are to deporting people that need to be deported, which again goes, you know, to the core of Trump's

00:22:56.560 message. In fact, we had Anita Anand, the President of the Treasury, President of the Treasury Board,

00:23:02.980 say that if you come into this country illegally, you will be deported. And then Mark Miller said to

00:23:10.320 Pierre Polyev that he is basically attacked Pierre Polyev for being against deportations and being

00:23:17.100 essentially, he's trying to claim that the liberals are more anti immigration and stronger on the border

00:23:22.680 than the conservatives are. So I don't know what's going on here. But I guess if this is what gets the

00:23:28.660 liberal government to act on immigration, maybe it's going to work out. Well, we interviewed a

00:23:34.300 friend of ours recently on our channel named Elijah, and he's a brand expert. So he studies what

00:23:38.700 different political parties are doing. He also works in corporate and helps develop brands. One of the

00:23:45.380 things that he noticed is that the liberals especially pander to what's popular. So right now,

00:23:52.000 immigration is a concern. Canadians are concerned about people coming in fraudulently from the US when

00:23:58.560 they close their borders. Canadians are concerned about the volume of our immigration. So now the

00:24:05.740 liberals are pandering to that saying, well, we're going to deport more people. Whereas previously,

00:24:10.220 the liberals were in favor of open borders and very loose immigration policies, because that's what was

00:24:15.600 popular at the time. Well, and I think this just raises the concern of how eerily similar the liberal

00:24:22.220 strategy is to literally the playbook out of George Orwell's 1984, where, you know, in one sentence,

00:24:28.040 they'll say, we're at war with East Asia, we're at war with East Asia, we've always been at war with

00:24:32.260 East Asia. And then the next day, we're at peace with East Asia, we're at war with West Asia, we've

00:24:36.000 always been at war with West Asia, just to try to short circuit everybody's brain into thinking,

00:24:41.660 oh, okay, well, maybe I had it wrong. So but I think the good news is, is most Canadians are not

00:24:47.460 falling for falling for this. And I think the deficit is just too much to make up at this point

00:24:52.680 for the liberals. You know, I didn't predict this. I'm not trying to claim any credit at all. But I did

00:24:57.980 predict that, that the liberals position on immigration, and the threat that the liberals and the media

00:25:05.020 would turn around and attack conservatives for daring to step out of line with the immigration consensus

00:25:11.460 at the time, a year and a half ago. I did predict that this would pull the conservatives into being

00:25:18.140 much softer on immigration than what the majority of Canadians wanted to hear, to the point in which

00:25:22.820 when it became popular to speak about immigration, the liberals would try to undercut the conservatives

00:25:27.300 and make them out to be the pro-immigration party. I did kind of see this coming. I didn't expect it to

00:25:33.920 happen overnight, due to Donald Trump coming into power. But now that's what we're seeing. And it's

00:25:38.560 it's shameless, in my opinion, really. Remember, Justin Trudeau, as we discussed earlier, before

00:25:44.400 this, Justin Trudeau told the world, told the world's migrants that Canada welcomed them just to

00:25:51.800 try to play some politics with Donald Trump and to appear as though he was this open border visionary,

00:25:56.580 and Donald Trump was an evil, nasty, closed border president. I mean, this is this is unbelievable.

00:26:04.120 But, you know, Justin Trudeau is trying to run away from his record, it looks like.

00:26:09.920 Yeah, and but I think the the good news is because the Canadian population, especially

00:26:16.520 the population that is really, really unhappy with Justin Trudeau, they've been paying a lot more

00:26:23.700 attention to politics, especially over the last last two years, starting with the Freedom Convoy,

00:26:29.500 right. And they are they are seeing Trudeau and his liberals exactly for what they are. And

00:26:36.700 the rest of the Canadians that aren't necessarily paying that close attention, what they're noticing

00:26:41.940 is their pocketbook is empty. So either way, I don't think there's a way out of this for Justin

00:26:48.340 Trudeau. And if he doesn't resign by the next election, it may be a historical landslide election

00:26:57.620 in Canada, similar to how it was historic on the United States.

00:27:02.820 And, you know, basically, you know, Justin Trudeau has said, well, he's put out some new ideas on

00:27:10.360 immigration. He's admitted fault. But shockingly, he didn't really personally admit fault, but he

00:27:15.440 admitted fault on behalf of everybody else, and said that his new plan is to essentially flatline

00:27:22.220 population growth over the next three years. So he's gone from open borders to flat, flat population

00:27:28.480 growth, essentially what many people are calling net zero immigration, right? So it's going to try

00:27:33.080 to balance out the population and try to get us back on track. Do you think that the conservatives

00:27:37.440 should come out with some commitments on immigration, Tanya? Do you think that it's time to hear some

00:27:43.380 ideas? Or is the best political strategy just to say, these guys broke it, we're going to fix it,

00:27:49.180 and, you know, maybe avoid getting into the details? I think that's probably the way they're

00:27:53.420 going to do it for now. Stephen Harper did caution Pierre Polyev about releasing his platform ahead of

00:27:58.480 time. So I think that the conservatives will stay vague with their statements for now. And then as soon

00:28:05.260 as an election is called, we're going to know exactly what they're going to be doing with their

00:28:08.460 immigration numbers. Yeah, and, and I think that's what what that is going to be is similar to what

00:28:14.320 he's he's hinted at, which is tying immigration to the system capacity. And that's going to be housing,

00:28:21.520 education, health care, you know, what have you. So, so I think we're going to see numbers from the

00:28:27.200 conservative government that are essentially one house for every two Canadians that are that are

00:28:32.640 coming into the country. That's probably what we're going to see. And you know, when that initial when

00:28:37.480 that initial commitment came out and I, I, I, I'm not as sure if it would be a commitment, more of

00:28:43.360 just a general policy position about tying into demand. I was critical at the time because you can

00:28:48.980 simply determine what the demand is. If you are in charge, you can say, well, the demand is this,

00:28:54.580 and that means this number needs to be X, whatever it is. And it wasn't exactly clear if the conservatives

00:29:00.480 genuinely backed a reduction in population, in immigration, and, and that's just slowing down to the

00:29:06.940 population growth. But I think now, um, the situation is, is such that if even the liberals are calling for

00:29:13.220 net zero immigration, it's probably safe to assume that the conservative number is going to be considerably

00:29:17.680 lower. And I think guys, that plan needs to be honest about removing people that need to be removed.

00:29:24.200 Well, and the other thing too, is I think that, um, uh, cause we heard from a lot of people, um, just

00:29:30.160 through, through comments and, uh, and online that, uh, that they were also critical of the conservatives

00:29:36.400 for not taking a stance on immigration earlier. But, uh, I am positive that the reason they did that

00:29:42.360 is they were just playing the waiting game because they knew if they did it too early,

00:29:45.980 all they would get is criticism from Justin Trudeau that they were racists and all of this stuff.

00:29:51.900 So they, they lied in wait for as long as possible and, and they knew what was coming that you could see

00:29:57.960 it in the, uh, in, in the statistics. So, um, once everything got bad enough and the housing crisis

00:30:04.080 got bad enough, they waited for the liberals to actually do something because they were forced to.

00:30:09.420 So, um, it was really good gamesmanship by them. Yeah. You can be right too early. So I think even

00:30:15.720 six months ago, if the conservatives had said, Oh, we're going to start, or we're going to reduce

00:30:19.740 immigration numbers when we become government. I think there would have been a lot of blowback. I think

00:30:24.420 there would have been calls that they're racist, that there's xenophobic, et cetera, et cetera.

00:30:29.120 And that was only six months ago. So I think they waited the appropriate amount of time. And then I

00:30:34.060 think when an election is called, they'll release their platform. And as for the extra people, um,

00:30:40.120 there definitely something has to be done about that because it shocked me when I saw that we were

00:30:44.960 bringing in almost a million international students, um, every year, uh, in the last few years,

00:30:50.660 like that, that is almost three or four times what it was under Stephen Harper. So, um, they have to

00:30:57.500 get ahold on this and the people that unfortunately are a drain on our resources, that they're not

00:31:03.540 citizens. Um, some people are going to have to go and that's just all, that's just how it is.

00:31:08.960 And, and, and, you know, the reality is that number is, is very high because the migrant rights

00:31:14.060 network, they have said, they have claimed that the number of illegals in this country could be

00:31:20.360 up to 500,000. So we're dealing with a number that could be, you know, a hundred thousand,

00:31:26.440 but it could be 500,000. And I don't think, I believe the numbers that, that are deported in

00:31:31.260 this country each year are right around 20,000, maybe just a little more, maybe just a little less.

00:31:37.120 Uh, if we're serious about this, this is going to be a very large project that the government is

00:31:43.240 going to have to tackle. They're going to have to tackle it without concern about, you know,

00:31:47.420 political capital, because as Donald Trump has pointed out, and I think many Canadians feel it,

00:31:51.920 this is quickly becoming a public safety concern for us. In order to have a border, in order to

00:31:57.000 have sovereignty over your border, you need to enforce the rules and you can't just allow people

00:32:01.360 to stay who don't follow those rules. So I guess we'll have to see how tactful the next

00:32:06.680 government is in handling this situation. Well, and it should be a privilege, not a right to come

00:32:12.380 and live in Canada. And, uh, unfortunately, um, Trudeau has sold a, uh, a false promise to,

00:32:20.860 to people looking to come to Canada. And, you know, as we've said many times, I don't blame the

00:32:25.420 people for coming here. I blame the people for advertising that this is essentially heaven on

00:32:31.020 earth and every, everybody is welcome, but it's not sustainable. And we need to get back to a

00:32:38.080 immigration system where we are very picky about who comes into the country.

00:32:43.360 I always think the best policy is quality over quantity. We should be bringing in the best people

00:32:48.020 in the world and not trying to chase an arbitrary number. Uh, I think Canadians would love to see that

00:32:52.720 from all walks of life and all backgrounds. Let's end it there. Let's turn it over to the audience.

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Juno News - November 28, 2024

Why won’t politicians put Canada First？

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