Juno News - August 14, 2023


Will immigration fix Canada’s housing crisis? (ft. Cosmin Dzsurdzsa)


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In this episode of The Andrew Lawton Show, Andrew Lawton, host of the Daily Brief and host of The Andrew Lawrence Show, sits down with his colleague, Coshon Gerja, to discuss immigration and the housing crisis in Canada.

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00:00:00.000 you're tuned in to the andrew lawton show
00:00:05.920 let's just drill down for a moment here on the math on this on the economics because the
00:00:13.820 government says that the only way we can fill the labor shortage is through immigration okay
00:00:18.180 there's some basis for immigrants being necessary to filling up the workforce when there are 0.99
00:00:23.860 vacancies but the government is claiming that there's not actually going to be a housing
00:00:27.880 issue because when we have more immigrants we'll be building more houses that's the argument 1.00
00:00:33.360 they're putting forward and it's one that didn't quite add up to my colleague cosmon gerja host of
00:00:38.460 the daily brief and a fantastic investigative journalist at true north who joins me now
00:00:43.340 cosmon thanks for coming on the show here uh what do you make of this here what where is the
00:00:48.300 government getting this idea from that uh houses will just be built you know a dime a dozen once 0.71
00:00:53.980 we open the floodgates on immigration yeah i think it's preposterous and in my piece i call it
00:01:00.540 a myth it doesn't really make sense that immigrants are going to come to canada and suddenly start
00:01:06.920 building houses when you look at the statistics last month statistics canada released the labor
00:01:13.400 survey and it found that 45 000 construction jobs were lost the month before that it was about 16 000
00:01:22.060 so it really doesn't add up who are where are these immigrants that are building houses
00:01:27.200 yeah it's a valid question and i know and you and i spoke about this a little on the the daily brief
00:01:33.300 yesterday a lot of them go into the service sector and and we know there are vacancies in that sector i
00:01:39.640 mean we've all had issues where you try to get your coffee poured and it takes you know like 25 minutes
00:01:44.700 or something because no one's working at whatever the local cafe is and yeah that's a thing that happens
00:01:49.780 but these are jobs that are very low paying jobs they're not a job that you're ever going to be able
00:01:54.820 to build a house with a salary on typically in cities like toronto or vancouver especially
00:01:59.660 whereas construction jobs pay considerably well and you can actually do very well with this so
00:02:04.860 why is this not happening has there been any research done into this has there been any effort to
00:02:10.320 get people into that track because that's an area where we desperately need labor in canada
00:02:15.200 yeah no i don't think there's been much research when i looked at the statistics from 2019
00:02:21.860 uh it shows that the most popular jobs for immigrants are service jobs health care jobs
00:02:28.240 uh bureaucratic jobs they're not necessarily coming here building the infrastructure that we need to
00:02:35.080 sustain such high levels of immigration they're all going to high density areas you mentioned this
00:02:40.580 earlier and with that comes a host of problems like increases in rent uh increases in the price
00:02:46.900 of housing increases in the price of goods also high density areas have generally have higher rates
00:02:53.900 of crime we see this happening in in toronto and uh vancouver and other major cities so what what
00:03:00.980 solutions uh are the liberal government proposing none really what mark miller said last week was that he
00:03:08.500 wants to increase the number of immigrants he's he's proposing to actually make it even higher than
00:03:14.740 than the uh one million target every two years we have right now yet we know that there's not enough
00:03:20.980 houses being built so i i'm not sure i i don't think they even have a solution to the housing crisis and
00:03:28.020 a part of me thinks that there's a cynical uh sort of desire to keep the housing prices high
00:03:34.340 yeah and i i'm wondering just i want to drill down on that point with you in a second but i would also
00:03:40.820 add here that this is not an issue of saying oh immigrants are making things difficult for native-born
00:03:46.340 canadians because immigrants are making it difficult for other immigrants and i don't mean that in a way
00:03:50.900 that is blaming them individually but it also means that people that are coming to canada in two years
00:03:56.740 are dealing with what i'd say is a bill of goods that's been sold to them that's not really here that
00:04:01.780 you can have this economic fortune in canada when they come here and find that the immigrants that 1.00
00:04:07.620 came in a year and two years before them are still looking for homes as well and there's nothing left
00:04:12.660 for them no you're absolutely right and i immigrated here with my family in 2003 and back then in
00:04:21.140 kitchener where we lived you could rent a three-bedroom apartment for about a thousand dollars a month and
00:04:27.700 that let my parents get the necessary accreditation and the the training they needed to to enter the
00:04:34.660 professional workforce while they were doing you know cleaning jobs and watching the kids so i don't
00:04:41.140 think that that is an opportunity that is present to many uh new immigrants anymore they have to get
00:04:46.580 full-time jobs uh both parents usually and then they're left stuck in a position that they didn't see
00:04:54.020 themselves being in in the first place so i think these uh high levels of um immigration targets
00:05:01.140 we're actually cheapening the immigration experience we're making it worse for the new immigrants and 0.99
00:05:07.860 as a country we should pride ourselves on on providing a flourishing and positive experience when
00:05:14.580 we come to canada so making it worse is simply not the solution cosmon georgia host of the daily brief and
00:05:23.140 investigative journalist here at true north thanks so much cosmon thank you thanks for listening to
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