Juno News - November 16, 2019


Will Justin Trudeau learn to play nice with others？

Topics
learning to work with others
Mentioned
Justin Trudeau Bill Blair Catherine McKenna Preston Manning Stephen Guibo Andrew Scheer Jason Kenney Hillary Clinton Badger
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5 minutes

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1,054

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60


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As Parliament prepares to resume, a lot of questions hang in the air about the Trudeau cabinet. Will it be conciliatory and consensus-building? Will it continue down the path of the previous Liberal government, which was haughty in its approach to dealing with the opposition? And what will it look like when it's time to deal with Western alienation?

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00:00:00.000 As we get nearer and nearer to the resumption of Parliament and the
00:00:08.760 announcing of the federal cabinet, the revised cabinet under Justin Trudeau, a
00:00:13.360 lot of questions hang in the air. The main one I think being, has Justin
00:00:17.320 Trudeau learned how to play well with others? Back when they had a majority for
00:00:22.320 four years, the Liberal government, well, they were already rather haughty in the
00:00:26.400 way they conducted themselves. They would vilify the opposition that disagreed
00:00:30.540 with them. They would needlessly make a lot of situations worse for themselves,
00:00:33.960 doing a lot of name-calling and so forth. They could have taken the high road
00:00:37.200 because, well, why not? You already control all the levers of power, and now when they
00:00:42.800 need goodwill from the opposition the most, well, are they going to continue down
00:00:47.880 that path? Or are we going to see a more conciliatory, a more consensus-building
00:00:52.800 Justin Trudeau? And those are going to be the things to watch for in the days and
00:00:56.700 weeks ahead. Already there are kind of conflicting messages out there. Justin
00:01:01.620 Trudeau talking about learning to work with others, learning to listen to the
00:01:05.880 opposition. He's had some meetings with all the opposition leaders. Of course he's
00:01:09.360 gonna have to. He's gonna have to say, hey guys, let's do things together. And he
00:01:13.420 says he wants to deal with Western alienation, and then they say the cabinet
00:01:17.640 is gonna be expanded. We've just learned that there's gonna be more cabinet posts to
00:01:22.380 deal with all these different positions. But what are these cabinet
00:01:25.500 ministers going to be tasked with doing? You know, when Bill Blair was first put
00:01:30.440 into that new position of dealing with border security, one wondered, well, would
00:01:34.020 his job be to actually deal with border security? Actually clamp down on illegal
00:01:39.240 crossings and deal with expediting the whole issue? Or would it be to give the
00:01:43.020 impression that one's dealing with it? Would Bill Blair go around the country and
00:01:45.900 badger other people into believing there are no problems? Badger people into
00:01:49.740 keeping quiet on all of the problems. What's that gonna be like when it comes to
00:01:54.420 dealing with Western alienation? If they assign one or two different cabinet posts
00:01:58.620 to deal with all of that, will it be people actually going there and saying, what are
00:02:02.820 the concrete specific things we can do to deal with your problems? Jason Kenney has
00:02:08.220 already started to put forward a number of ideas in that panel that they've put that
00:02:12.700 Preston Manning will be on and others. The firewall panel to look at ways to sort of
00:02:17.220 further insulate Alberta from the rest of Canada in similar ways that Quebec did a
00:02:22.180 number of years ago, all without separating. That's where we've come to. That's the point
00:02:27.020 we're in. Now, is the Trudeau minister just gonna be someone who goes and tours
00:02:30.900 Alberta and says, I feel your pain, I hear your pain, a la Bill Clinton years ago? Or is this
00:02:35.700 gonna be someone who actually says, okay, let's get to work? And what will that work look like?
00:02:41.780 Because, you know, it's funny that we have a situation here where the Liberal government is
00:02:46.420 saying we gotta double down, we gotta triple down on climate change and our
00:02:49.940 obsession with this issue. We gotta talk about it more. And here I am watching the
00:02:53.540 national scene going, how can we talk about it more than we're already talking
00:02:58.180 about it? I mean, they don't shut up about the thing. That's pretty much all they ever
00:03:01.900 talk about. So they are more seized than ever with their climate alarmism. A number of
00:03:06.300 sources tell me we should expect Stephen Guibo to be introduced into cabinet, some sort of role
00:03:11.900 dealing with climate change. And he seems even more seized with the issue than Catherine McKenna is,
00:03:16.860 if you can believe it. Well, that's not gonna look too good to a lot of people out west. And yes,
00:03:21.900 Justin Trudeau says a lot of Canadians really into climate change and polls show that people are
00:03:26.060 getting more concerned about that issue. But then at the same time, more people voted for the
00:03:31.660 Conservatives under Andrew Scheer who said axe the carbon tax than there were people who voted for
00:03:37.180 the Liberals. Yes, the Liberals are still in power, but they lost the popular vote. So what does that
00:03:42.060 tell you? Well, that tells you that people are divided on this issue. And if Trudeau wants to be
00:03:46.460 a consensus builder, well, consensus is all about taking the issues we disagree with and watering them
00:03:52.460 down, shelving them even, not actually poking the bear on those issues and instead going, what's our
00:03:57.580 common ground? Which is actually the title of Justin Trudeau's book he released before becoming
00:04:03.020 Prime Minister. What's our common ground? Okay, let's agree on these three or five or what have you
00:04:07.900 policy positions and proceed with those. And you know, there are going to be issues that not just
00:04:14.700 Justin Trudeau and one other opposition leader agree on for him to get the majority votes. There's going
00:04:19.580 to be issues where three or four party leaders agree on. So why not rally and unify behind those issues
00:04:26.780 rather than the ones that are needlessly divisive, like the climate issue. The conversation I think
00:04:33.100 is increasing more and more now about how there's things you can do to deal with emissions, deal with
00:04:38.140 climate change and so forth that are actually voluntary methods, that they're corporations doing
00:04:43.580 R&D, building a better mousetrap, community initiatives, all things out there in civil society or in the
00:04:48.700 business community. It doesn't need to be by fiat from on top the federal government telling people
00:04:54.220 you must do this, you must live like this, you must pay this and that much disliked tax. There are
00:05:00.700 options out there. Maybe Justin Trudeau is going to have to put on that thinking cap and realize that
00:05:04.780 not everything has to come top down from government. So these are going to be the big issues that Justin
00:05:10.060 Trudeau faces as he enters a minority government. Is he going to learn to play well with others? That's
00:05:16.220 the number one question. We've yet to see the answer.