Juno News - August 25, 2023


Will politicians listen to the people on gender ideology?


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00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show. This is The Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
00:00:10.600 Hello and welcome to you all. This is Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show, The Andrew Lawton Show, here on True North.
00:00:17.260 On this Friday, August 25th, 2023, on our Friday shows, we try to do a bigger picture view, get that 30,000 foot perspective on a big issue of the day,
00:00:30.560 whatever that issue is that may not be particularly sensitive on the timing, but in this particular show,
00:00:36.540 it is because we are seeing on a couple of different fronts the politics of transgender ideology seep into a great many spaces.
00:00:45.760 It has been an issue in the classroom, it's been an issue in women's shelters, it's been an issue in jails,
00:00:51.060 it's been an issue in the political context, although you are going to be hard-pressed to find a politician who is prepared to talk about it.
00:00:59.740 Over the last year, we've seen a proliferation, I think, of groups of parents, of networks of parents.
00:01:06.200 You never want to get between a mama bear and her little cubs, but we've seen that happen in the schools.
00:01:13.240 Parents that have been speaking up and saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, I don't like my kid being taught this, I don't like my kid being taught that.
00:01:20.420 You've always had that to some extent. There's always been a contingent of parents that says,
00:01:24.940 you know what, I want to pull my kids out of sex ed because I think this is something that we should be teaching them as parents and families.
00:01:31.300 And for the most part, the government has always just accepted that,
00:01:34.860 and they didn't really start until the last few years to make it more and more difficult for parents to do that.
00:01:40.480 And of course, the matters in the curriculum have extended to such a point that now we're seeing more and more people
00:01:46.660 join this movement of parents that are saying enough is enough.
00:01:51.160 And we've certainly seen this fight in the United States, but Canada has seen it as well.
00:01:55.960 And as a result, we now have a very broad coalition of people that aren't just your hardline evangelical Christians,
00:02:02.600 but also Muslims, Catholics, Catholics, Jews, atheists, Sikhs, Hindus, agnostics, and Zoroastrians,
00:02:09.640 maybe you get one of them or two, that are all coming together right now and saying,
00:02:12.980 listen, we may have wildly different beliefs about theology, about this and that, about politics,
00:02:18.020 but when it comes to our children, we don't like what they're being taught.
00:02:22.740 And it's been interesting how the Justin diversity is our strength Trudeau government
00:02:27.660 has taken a very different tone on this, as has much of the left.
00:02:32.160 For example, they used to preach about the perils of Islamophobia,
00:02:36.320 the need to tolerate Muslims, and the need to love Muslims.
00:02:39.120 But the second it's Muslims speaking up and saying,
00:02:41.660 well, actually, our religion doesn't really align with this really overzealous
00:02:46.200 and really aggressive approach to sexual identity,
00:02:50.180 then it's, well, who do we side with here?
00:02:53.620 And you've seen this come to a flashpoint in a couple of cases.
00:02:56.980 For example, back a few years ago, you had the debate about whether a transgender waxing client
00:03:04.180 has a right to demand being waxed by a Muslim waxologist
00:03:08.060 that doesn't want to wax female genitalia.
00:03:10.800 This is something that may be an amusing headline,
00:03:14.000 but really touches on a very real issue in society,
00:03:17.500 which is what happens when you proclaim to be the most diverse, tolerant society
00:03:21.660 and find that two groups' rights are seemingly butting up against each other.
00:03:27.060 Well, this has been what's happening now.
00:03:28.820 Tolerance is no longer enough.
00:03:30.680 You can't just say, I am a trans person and I tolerate that there will be people
00:03:35.140 with religious beliefs that don't want to approach gender the same way I do.
00:03:39.460 And you can't just say, I'm a Muslim person and I want to tolerate that
00:03:43.260 these people are out there and they may not agree with my views.
00:03:46.240 It's forced acceptance.
00:03:47.980 And when you do that, one group has to win out over the others.
00:03:51.900 And a lot of the media and political establishment and academic institutions
00:03:56.260 have said that it's going to be the LGBTQ2IA plus movement that wins out in this.
00:04:04.120 And as a result, religious freedom is imperiled.
00:04:07.440 So one of the changes that we've seen here is that a lot of groups
00:04:10.400 that haven't always gotten along on political issues are coming together
00:04:13.960 because kids are at stake.
00:04:16.480 And there is quite a large movement planned in the fall
00:04:19.760 where a million-person march,
00:04:21.820 I don't know if there are going to be a million people there,
00:04:23.460 but that's been the name presented,
00:04:25.540 a million-person march,
00:04:26.720 which has been spearheaded predominantly by a group of Muslims.
00:04:31.180 One of them joins me now, Camille El-Sheikh,
00:04:33.840 who is the organizer of this,
00:04:35.180 and also Dr. Bahira Abdul-Salam,
00:04:37.760 who is a former mayoral candidate in the most recent Toronto by-election
00:04:41.580 and is also the spokesperson and coordinator for Hands Off Our Kids,
00:04:46.700 which, as the name suggests, takes parental rights very seriously.
00:04:50.920 Bahira and Camille, great to talk to you both.
00:04:52.720 Thank you for coming on today.
00:04:54.460 Thank you so much.
00:04:55.680 It's our pleasure.
00:04:56.960 Now, obviously, let's start with the obvious part here,
00:05:00.560 which is that we've seen right now in this movement
00:05:03.260 a coalition that we haven't really seen on other issues.
00:05:06.680 You both are coming at this from the Muslim community.
00:05:09.100 We've got a number of people that are evangelical Christians,
00:05:13.120 devout Catholics, people who are of no faith at all.
00:05:16.340 Why is it that you think this is an issue
00:05:18.520 that's drawing such a diverse coalition?
00:05:21.680 I'll start with you on this, Bahira.
00:05:24.260 So we believe that there are changes that happened
00:05:29.660 in the school system and education system
00:05:34.080 that are related to the human rights code,
00:05:39.040 which is giving some kind of control of LGBT rights
00:05:47.260 over religious rights.
00:05:49.940 And it is not only related to religions,
00:05:54.600 but it is related to concepts that are for many people
00:06:00.500 who are maybe are not affiliated to any religious groups
00:06:04.860 that are considered extreme and unacceptable
00:06:08.700 related to gender ideology,
00:06:14.400 sexualization of children at schools.
00:06:16.720 and we noticed that there are lots of sexually explicit materials,
00:06:26.580 books, organizations that are like involved
00:06:32.620 in the education somehow,
00:06:35.200 which are not monitored by any government.
00:06:38.220 So now, like, you know, with the social media
00:06:43.740 and all this technological advancements,
00:06:47.500 people became connected more and more.
00:06:50.500 We are becoming more connected.
00:06:52.720 And information, you cannot hide those information, right?
00:06:56.600 So the extreme it gets with this ideology
00:07:02.740 and the cases that happened to lots of children,
00:07:06.820 that people started, like, parent groups,
00:07:09.380 they have been active talking about this
00:07:12.620 all over Canada and the United States.
00:07:16.500 And now we are getting more and more connected
00:07:20.680 and more and more determined
00:07:23.300 that this needs to have an end.
00:07:28.160 And to you, Camille, I mean,
00:07:29.680 this is not the Million Muslim March,
00:07:31.280 it's the Million Person March.
00:07:32.620 So you must have heard from so many people
00:07:34.820 of all different walks of life that are saying,
00:07:37.360 yeah, maybe we're different political views,
00:07:39.340 different faith views, different backgrounds,
00:07:41.280 but we're all on the same team here.
00:07:45.020 Absolutely.
00:07:45.840 I mean, look, children are a universal
00:07:49.340 type of a subject, I guess, if you may.
00:07:53.900 I mean, if you go to jail
00:07:55.260 and you are a pedophile,
00:07:58.180 good luck going to the jail with inmates.
00:08:01.820 There's no respect for that, okay?
00:08:03.840 And this is in jail.
00:08:05.360 Could you imagine?
00:08:06.340 I mean, 97.6% of Canadians
00:08:09.860 are heterosexual, you know, families.
00:08:13.040 You're either, you're part of a nuclear family.
00:08:16.140 I don't know what your personal life is.
00:08:19.480 If you're divorced,
00:08:20.700 you were still part of a heterosexual relationship
00:08:23.280 and you may have kids, right?
00:08:24.960 So most of Canadians,
00:08:28.880 whether they're, you know, heterosexual families,
00:08:31.660 may have kids or maybe aunts or uncles to kids.
00:08:36.100 So when you bring kids at the forefront
00:08:39.480 to serve any political agenda,
00:08:42.940 that's when people get concerned.
00:08:44.900 And so I think, you know,
00:08:49.180 by pushing the sexual indoctrination,
00:08:52.660 child pornography in the school
00:08:54.440 for five and six-year-olds,
00:08:57.120 you know, gay pride,
00:08:59.700 you know, 60-year-old males
00:09:01.380 dancing naked in the streets
00:09:03.780 with their ornaments exposed to kids
00:09:06.560 in a state, you know,
00:09:08.460 that's a very, you know,
00:09:10.440 it's a very, you know,
00:09:12.720 sexually explicit state.
00:09:14.240 And four and five-year-olds are watching.
00:09:18.260 I mean, you can only want to talk
00:09:21.420 to every Canadian that's concerned about it.
00:09:23.500 And thankfully for us,
00:09:24.580 it's the majority of Canadians.
00:09:26.700 One thing that I've always found
00:09:28.340 so bizarre about this
00:09:30.060 is that for years and years,
00:09:31.860 we've been told by the political left
00:09:33.640 the importance of diversity.
00:09:35.320 And I know in the past,
00:09:37.420 the Muslim community
00:09:38.160 has been a particular focal point of this.
00:09:40.340 When the government gets up
00:09:41.440 and says we need to end Islamophobia
00:09:43.680 at all costs.
00:09:44.720 And they say, you know,
00:09:45.760 we stand shoulder to shoulder
00:09:47.240 with Muslim Canadians.
00:09:48.740 And then the second that you get
00:09:50.280 Muslim Canadians that stand up
00:09:51.820 and say, yeah, you know,
00:09:52.580 we're not really comfortable
00:09:53.620 with forcing pride
00:09:56.340 on our children in this way.
00:09:58.560 Or we're not really comfortable
00:09:59.680 with the idea that our
00:10:00.840 six-year-old students
00:10:02.040 can be told that there are,
00:10:03.240 you know, 27 different genders.
00:10:04.860 All of a sudden that flips.
00:10:06.620 And, you know,
00:10:07.040 I live in London, Ontario,
00:10:08.340 and we have a school here
00:10:10.300 that has, I think,
00:10:11.060 like a third of the students
00:10:12.100 are Muslim.
00:10:12.960 And that third basically
00:10:14.420 sat home one day
00:10:15.640 on one of these proclaimed days.
00:10:17.360 Then all of a sudden,
00:10:18.120 no one cares about respecting
00:10:19.920 the Muslim community's views
00:10:21.460 on a particular issue.
00:10:22.420 It's, oh, well,
00:10:23.100 now they're transphobic.
00:10:24.200 They're homophobic.
00:10:25.040 And this must have just been
00:10:26.940 like a whiplash for you folks
00:10:28.980 who have seen on one hand
00:10:30.140 a government preach tolerance
00:10:31.640 and then has taken
00:10:32.380 a very intolerant view
00:10:33.760 of your own religion.
00:10:34.880 Well, you know what?
00:10:37.180 It's something where
00:10:38.020 Muslim communities
00:10:39.320 have always been used to.
00:10:40.440 I mean, like,
00:10:40.840 look at September 11th.
00:10:41.960 It was blamed on Islam.
00:10:43.500 It condoned the Iraq war,
00:10:45.280 killed one million
00:10:46.060 Iraqi citizens,
00:10:47.860 killed 100,000 American
00:10:49.560 and UK troops,
00:10:51.100 the population, right?
00:10:52.940 Afghanistan, same thing.
00:10:54.220 One million Afghanis.
00:10:55.860 And then you got the wars
00:10:57.020 on Yemen, Syria,
00:10:58.400 and all that stuff.
00:10:59.180 And it doesn't stop.
00:11:00.100 It killed people on both sides.
00:11:01.980 So Islam is always used
00:11:05.480 as a political card.
00:11:07.300 Now, you know,
00:11:08.480 people do get stopped
00:11:09.520 at the airport
00:11:10.120 because their name is
00:11:11.180 Muhammad or Fatima.
00:11:12.900 And then politicians
00:11:13.820 from the left
00:11:15.540 like to capitalize on that.
00:11:17.640 And that's where
00:11:18.240 they used Islam.
00:11:19.160 But now Islam
00:11:20.120 is standing hand in hand
00:11:22.860 with Christianity
00:11:23.540 as it should
00:11:24.600 because in the Middle East,
00:11:26.540 you go to Egypt,
00:11:27.640 you go to Lebanon.
00:11:28.880 I'm in Lebanon right now
00:11:30.000 vacationing.
00:11:30.720 I just saw a 4,000
00:11:32.680 or sorry,
00:11:33.240 a 2,000 year old church,
00:11:35.220 right?
00:11:36.360 And I saw a mosque
00:11:37.580 right beside it.
00:11:38.920 So there's that coexistence
00:11:40.820 that always existed.
00:11:41.960 But today,
00:11:42.980 we're united
00:11:44.000 by the kids.
00:11:45.560 And the political parties
00:11:47.340 are dropping
00:11:48.860 the Islamophobia card
00:11:50.320 and they're using
00:11:51.060 the bigot card
00:11:52.160 on Muslims.
00:11:53.500 And it's, you know,
00:11:54.780 it's kind of like a race
00:11:55.700 between Islamophobia
00:11:57.340 or homophobia.
00:11:58.340 Now, okay,
00:11:59.540 it's politically convenient
00:12:00.800 to use homophobia
00:12:02.500 so Islamophobia
00:12:03.840 can take a backseat.
00:12:05.300 And you know what?
00:12:06.060 We're not going to be there
00:12:07.380 to accommodate politicians.
00:12:09.520 We just want to stand
00:12:10.820 hand in hand
00:12:11.800 with the rest of Canadians
00:12:13.160 and say,
00:12:14.360 hands off our kids
00:12:15.440 at all costs
00:12:16.560 because that's not
00:12:17.360 a negotiation.
00:12:18.080 I'll ask you
00:12:19.780 about this, Bahira.
00:12:20.740 What is it specifically
00:12:21.880 that you would like?
00:12:23.080 Because I've never heard
00:12:24.640 much in the way
00:12:25.840 of concern
00:12:26.680 about if a school
00:12:27.720 wants to fly a pride flag
00:12:29.400 or if a school
00:12:30.180 wants to teach
00:12:31.020 as part of the sex ed curriculum
00:12:32.440 that, you know,
00:12:33.580 there are these different ways
00:12:35.040 that people have,
00:12:36.060 you know,
00:12:36.360 to live
00:12:36.820 and that parents,
00:12:38.020 if they want,
00:12:38.440 can pull their kids
00:12:39.060 out of that.
00:12:39.780 And there's always been
00:12:41.000 an understanding
00:12:42.220 that if parents want to,
00:12:44.100 first and foremost,
00:12:44.960 be their children's
00:12:46.200 primary educator,
00:12:47.440 which they should,
00:12:48.520 they have that right.
00:12:49.440 And it seems to me
00:12:50.420 as though there's been
00:12:51.540 a flip where all of a sudden
00:12:52.640 you have an attitude
00:12:53.340 that does not respect parents,
00:12:55.180 whatever their issue
00:12:57.240 or concern is.
00:12:58.020 So what's your goal here?
00:13:01.000 I mean,
00:13:01.140 what is it you'd like
00:13:01.820 to actually see happen?
00:13:04.900 Okay.
00:13:05.300 So just a quick comment
00:13:07.700 on Camel
00:13:08.580 because he mentioned
00:13:09.800 Muslims and Christians.
00:13:12.080 So in reality,
00:13:14.240 all the majority
00:13:15.740 of Canadians,
00:13:16.820 not necessarily
00:13:17.720 only Muslim
00:13:18.420 because some atheists
00:13:19.540 are reaching out to me
00:13:20.820 and they're saying
00:13:21.960 don't forget us,
00:13:24.320 we are with you.
00:13:25.620 Right?
00:13:26.020 So,
00:13:27.020 and something else
00:13:30.460 that I want
00:13:31.260 to make it clear
00:13:32.220 that it is not sudden.
00:13:34.140 It is not sudden.
00:13:35.140 It has been
00:13:36.280 for years,
00:13:37.640 for decades,
00:13:39.260 activists
00:13:39.740 are fighting this,
00:13:42.360 the Christian community,
00:13:43.980 they have been fighting,
00:13:45.600 but they have been silenced.
00:13:47.960 And many activists,
00:13:49.200 they have been fighting,
00:13:50.260 but they have been accused
00:13:51.700 with all kind of,
00:13:54.940 like,
00:13:56.140 they are called bigots,
00:13:57.380 they are defamed,
00:13:59.300 and they are continuing
00:14:00.520 to do that right now.
00:14:02.080 But right now,
00:14:04.700 when this agenda,
00:14:07.000 it became very clear
00:14:08.580 to everyone
00:14:09.400 or the majority of people,
00:14:11.160 and we are hoping
00:14:12.100 that by this march,
00:14:14.000 we are trying
00:14:14.780 to educate people
00:14:16.160 and raise the awareness
00:14:17.740 about what is happening
00:14:19.440 in schools.
00:14:22.140 So we are,
00:14:23.120 first of all,
00:14:24.420 we are trying
00:14:25.060 to achieve awareness,
00:14:26.660 and we are trying
00:14:28.680 to break
00:14:29.580 the barrier
00:14:30.420 of fear.
00:14:31.860 Okay?
00:14:32.520 When I started
00:14:34.600 tweeting
00:14:36.320 about
00:14:37.180 the
00:14:38.320 protests
00:14:39.540 that happened
00:14:40.080 in Mississauga,
00:14:41.280 I had
00:14:42.140 flood
00:14:43.080 of hate speech
00:14:44.700 and people
00:14:45.280 trying to defame me.
00:14:47.040 And how come
00:14:49.220 we are saying
00:14:50.540 that we are in Canada,
00:14:52.300 we are Canadians,
00:14:53.840 we are in a country
00:14:54.640 that respects
00:14:55.560 like freedom
00:14:57.540 of expression.
00:14:59.200 But is it only one way?
00:15:00.980 Is it only one kind
00:15:02.160 of speech
00:15:02.780 that is allowed?
00:15:03.720 So this is considered
00:15:04.880 oppression,
00:15:05.960 and this is considered
00:15:07.380 dictatorship,
00:15:08.860 and this is considered,
00:15:11.040 it will never
00:15:13.040 be accepted
00:15:14.080 by me
00:15:16.060 as a person,
00:15:17.520 us as Muslims,
00:15:19.560 and Canadians.
00:15:21.020 Like,
00:15:21.300 those are
00:15:22.080 basic Canadian values.
00:15:24.220 Freedom,
00:15:24.640 of expression.
00:15:26.080 So protection
00:15:27.060 of our children,
00:15:28.800 this is our
00:15:29.480 primary goal.
00:15:31.480 To be very clear,
00:15:33.900 we need
00:15:34.700 our children
00:15:35.660 to go to school
00:15:37.520 to be educated
00:15:39.120 about real education,
00:15:42.400 about math
00:15:43.500 and science,
00:15:44.460 about critical thinking,
00:15:46.540 about respecting
00:15:48.460 everyone,
00:15:49.840 regardless of their color,
00:15:51.360 their religion,
00:15:52.620 their ideology.
00:15:53.620 we are not against
00:15:55.460 that we are going
00:15:57.120 to exclude
00:15:57.880 or we are going
00:15:59.100 to attack anyone.
00:16:01.000 No,
00:16:01.320 we are not.
00:16:02.000 This is not what
00:16:02.700 we are calling for.
00:16:04.500 Our message is love
00:16:05.960 and respect for everyone.
00:16:08.120 However,
00:16:08.960 we need to be treated
00:16:10.280 the same.
00:16:11.500 the children
00:16:13.960 when they are told
00:16:16.340 that you might
00:16:17.100 have been
00:16:17.640 born in a wrong body
00:16:19.440 or they have been
00:16:22.080 sexually explicit materials
00:16:26.900 or they have been taught
00:16:28.140 this is from
00:16:28.880 the early childhood
00:16:29.900 is going to have
00:16:31.620 a very critical impact
00:16:33.700 on their personality
00:16:35.280 and on their faith
00:16:37.520 and on their
00:16:38.700 like mental health.
00:16:42.880 So this is what
00:16:43.520 we see it.
00:16:44.280 We see this is causing
00:16:45.740 some mental health problem
00:16:48.300 when they are confusing
00:16:50.160 our children
00:16:51.020 about their gender
00:16:52.720 or providing some
00:16:55.300 very complex concepts
00:16:57.480 that may not be
00:17:00.240 like simple
00:17:02.060 to understand
00:17:02.880 by an adult.
00:17:04.260 So how come
00:17:05.200 we are telling
00:17:06.300 this to the children?
00:17:08.240 So what we need
00:17:09.380 to do is to
00:17:10.400 remove the organizations
00:17:13.280 that are distributing
00:17:15.740 those kind of materials
00:17:17.800 and ideologies
00:17:18.600 in schools
00:17:20.260 and we need a reform
00:17:23.060 in the education system
00:17:24.580 because now
00:17:26.060 it seems that
00:17:28.160 there is no
00:17:29.680 control over it.
00:17:32.060 Like we don't have
00:17:33.240 they are relying
00:17:34.780 on parental
00:17:36.080 like groups
00:17:39.220 or
00:17:39.720 parent engagement
00:17:42.340 committees
00:17:42.880 that don't have
00:17:44.180 authority
00:17:44.880 and even
00:17:46.340 the Ministry
00:17:47.320 of Education
00:17:48.380 even the
00:17:49.700 provincial government
00:17:50.760 the federal government
00:17:51.720 they are pushing
00:17:52.960 they are not really
00:17:54.620 having control
00:17:56.340 but they are
00:17:57.280 on the opposite
00:17:57.820 they are pushing
00:17:58.520 against the will
00:17:59.640 of people
00:18:00.300 and this is not
00:18:02.280 real democracy
00:18:03.480 democracy is
00:18:04.520 that people
00:18:05.600 have to be
00:18:06.720 the source
00:18:07.860 of power
00:18:09.140 in any
00:18:09.960 kind of
00:18:10.980 like
00:18:12.300 country
00:18:13.300 or
00:18:13.740 governance system.
00:18:15.400 well and I would
00:18:17.900 also add to that
00:18:19.020 Behira
00:18:19.580 that knowledge
00:18:20.700 is essential
00:18:21.640 for power
00:18:22.280 and I wanted to ask
00:18:23.220 you about this
00:18:23.660 Camille
00:18:23.920 because do you find
00:18:24.800 that parents
00:18:26.000 for the last
00:18:27.540 however many years
00:18:28.540 were unaware
00:18:29.160 this was going on
00:18:30.520 because when I
00:18:31.080 mentioned earlier
00:18:31.700 that a lot of this
00:18:32.980 seems sudden
00:18:33.700 certainly the issues
00:18:34.640 are not sudden
00:18:35.320 but it seems like
00:18:36.080 it's only really been
00:18:36.840 in the last year
00:18:37.560 that we've seen
00:18:38.200 such pushback
00:18:39.580 and we've seen
00:18:40.380 such an uprising
00:18:41.240 and I'm wondering
00:18:41.900 if that's
00:18:42.840 an indication
00:18:43.760 of people
00:18:44.620 that really didn't
00:18:45.460 know this was
00:18:46.060 happening
00:18:46.420 of parents
00:18:46.940 that didn't know
00:18:47.720 what was being
00:18:48.620 taught
00:18:48.920 what's your read
00:18:49.540 on that?
00:18:51.400 well maybe it's a little
00:18:52.440 bit of everything
00:18:53.040 but I think
00:18:53.820 with the power of AI
00:18:55.220 Andrew
00:18:56.480 you're able to
00:18:58.180 collect algorithms
00:18:59.280 from kids
00:19:00.060 I mean
00:19:00.440 you could see
00:19:01.260 a four year old
00:19:02.060 today or a three year
00:19:02.940 old today
00:19:03.340 grab a phone
00:19:04.340 and click
00:19:05.540 and get to
00:19:06.380 YouTube videos
00:19:07.160 and you ask
00:19:07.940 how did they do it
00:19:08.920 and how did they
00:19:09.580 put the nursery rhymes
00:19:10.840 on there
00:19:11.240 and stuff like that
00:19:12.000 but some parents
00:19:13.540 were aware
00:19:14.200 some parents
00:19:15.080 were not aware
00:19:16.000 but I think
00:19:18.280 at this point
00:19:19.120 the state
00:19:20.140 feels
00:19:20.700 that they
00:19:21.580 are the ones
00:19:24.120 to raise
00:19:25.680 the children
00:19:26.300 instead of parents
00:19:27.840 and now
00:19:28.900 that's that
00:19:29.620 narcissistic
00:19:30.620 nature
00:19:33.300 of the state
00:19:34.260 where they're
00:19:34.760 going to trump
00:19:35.420 whatever
00:19:36.260 parents think
00:19:38.080 and they're
00:19:38.780 going to
00:19:39.000 impose their
00:19:39.620 will
00:19:39.840 so we do
00:19:40.420 have a
00:19:40.820 government
00:19:41.160 that's kind
00:19:41.820 of using
00:19:42.900 a dictatorship
00:19:43.740 approach
00:19:44.480 just like
00:19:45.160 Behira said
00:19:46.400 and it has
00:19:48.000 nothing to do
00:19:48.600 with democracy
00:19:49.380 they're just
00:19:50.060 serving an
00:19:50.560 agenda
00:19:51.040 irregardless
00:19:52.280 of religious
00:19:52.920 beliefs
00:19:53.400 whether you're
00:19:53.920 Christian
00:19:54.300 Buddhist
00:19:54.720 or Muslim
00:19:55.400 or you know
00:19:56.380 agnostic
00:19:56.940 but you know
00:19:57.780 you have a
00:19:58.820 certain moral
00:19:59.420 compass that
00:20:00.240 you would like
00:20:00.880 your kids
00:20:01.760 to adhere to
00:20:02.480 you brought
00:20:02.980 them this
00:20:03.340 life
00:20:03.660 and they
00:20:05.580 feel that
00:20:06.180 they can
00:20:06.840 trump that
00:20:07.580 with the
00:20:08.600 indoctrination
00:20:09.720 of pride
00:20:10.240 in there
00:20:10.520 and this
00:20:10.920 is you know
00:20:11.480 why we're
00:20:11.900 fighting
00:20:12.280 today
00:20:13.200 we want
00:20:13.880 you know
00:20:14.500 parents to
00:20:15.220 have the
00:20:15.960 parental consent
00:20:16.940 and at least
00:20:17.920 until the kid
00:20:18.540 is 18 or
00:20:19.240 19
00:20:19.580 and what's
00:20:20.880 the march
00:20:21.220 going to look
00:20:21.640 like
00:20:21.820 give me a
00:20:22.160 little glimpse
00:20:22.560 of that
00:20:23.020 oh wow
00:20:24.460 you know
00:20:25.460 what
00:20:25.740 whether it's
00:20:26.720 Behira
00:20:27.200 or myself
00:20:28.000 or any
00:20:29.280 of our
00:20:29.760 spokespeople
00:20:30.500 or Mahmoud
00:20:32.020 Murrah
00:20:32.340 in Calgary
00:20:33.060 anytime we
00:20:34.780 do a
00:20:35.420 video
00:20:35.860 or you
00:20:37.240 know
00:20:37.520 do a
00:20:39.240 post in
00:20:39.940 social media
00:20:40.820 you'd get
00:20:41.780 thousands of
00:20:42.560 comments
00:20:43.100 I'm Jeff
00:20:44.020 from Surrey
00:20:44.920 BC
00:20:45.300 I'm
00:20:46.640 you know
00:20:47.420 Grace
00:20:49.080 from you
00:20:50.000 know
00:20:50.160 Saskatchewan
00:20:51.260 so what does
00:20:52.000 it look like
00:20:52.640 it's going to
00:20:53.180 look like
00:20:53.500 Canada
00:20:53.900 it's going to
00:20:54.460 look like
00:20:54.780 a big
00:20:55.460 Canada day
00:20:56.660 where people
00:20:57.620 are fed up
00:20:58.620 and they're
00:20:59.360 going to
00:20:59.600 bring their
00:21:00.140 kids down
00:21:00.960 and they're
00:21:01.760 going to
00:21:02.000 bring their
00:21:02.520 you know
00:21:02.860 coolers
00:21:03.520 and put
00:21:04.620 sandwiches
00:21:05.140 in there
00:21:05.580 and it's
00:21:05.980 going to
00:21:06.220 look like
00:21:06.720 a day
00:21:07.260 off school
00:21:07.900 where parents
00:21:08.680 are going
00:21:08.960 to pull
00:21:09.340 their kids
00:21:09.840 out of
00:21:10.160 school
00:21:10.540 and bring
00:21:11.540 themselves
00:21:12.220 out to
00:21:13.680 designated
00:21:14.340 locations
00:21:15.180 throughout the
00:21:15.920 country
00:21:16.380 and protest
00:21:17.560 together
00:21:18.040 and it's
00:21:18.460 going to
00:21:18.640 look like
00:21:19.580 a Canada
00:21:20.120 day
00:21:20.520 without
00:21:21.480 Canada
00:21:22.060 day
00:21:22.380 and you
00:21:23.300 know
00:21:23.380 that's
00:21:23.660 where
00:21:23.840 Canadians
00:21:24.480 come together
00:21:25.100 and say
00:21:25.540 finally
00:21:26.040 no
00:21:26.440 hands
00:21:26.780 on
00:21:26.920 for
00:21:27.120 kids
00:21:27.280 and I'll
00:21:29.380 ask you
00:21:29.760 the last
00:21:30.340 question
00:21:30.700 here
00:21:30.900 oh go
00:21:31.480 ahead
00:21:31.660 I was
00:21:32.120 I just
00:21:32.920 want to
00:21:33.380 comment
00:21:34.040 about
00:21:34.660 plans
00:21:35.800 to
00:21:36.300 spread
00:21:37.740 this
00:21:38.240 information
00:21:39.000 about
00:21:39.460 this
00:21:39.720 protest
00:21:40.100 because
00:21:40.500 we have
00:21:41.060 been
00:21:41.300 witnessing
00:21:41.820 lots
00:21:42.700 of
00:21:43.240 plans
00:21:46.700 that are
00:21:47.360 against
00:21:48.620 our
00:21:49.220 movement
00:21:49.680 which
00:21:50.280 are trying
00:21:51.360 to show
00:21:52.660 us
00:21:53.200 as
00:21:53.880 kind of
00:21:54.720 disorganized
00:21:55.640 so
00:21:55.900 they
00:21:56.360 are
00:21:56.540 creating
00:21:57.120 like
00:21:57.520 different
00:21:58.220 websites
00:21:58.800 with
00:21:59.200 different
00:21:59.660 timing
00:22:00.160 different
00:22:00.700 locations
00:22:01.720 some
00:22:02.060 people
00:22:02.320 trying
00:22:02.760 to
00:22:03.240 claim
00:22:04.160 that
00:22:04.620 they
00:22:05.380 are
00:22:05.700 organizers
00:22:06.920 of
00:22:07.460 this
00:22:07.960 movement
00:22:08.440 and
00:22:08.800 trying
00:22:09.160 to
00:22:09.440 claim
00:22:09.720 ownership
00:22:10.340 of
00:22:10.680 it
00:22:10.900 so
00:22:11.620 images
00:22:14.340 and profiles
00:22:15.120 too
00:22:15.460 while us
00:22:16.240 being
00:22:16.460 then
00:22:16.780 it
00:22:18.580 has
00:22:18.840 it
00:22:19.060 is
00:22:19.280 it's
00:22:19.740 like
00:22:20.000 a
00:22:20.200 social
00:22:20.640 war
00:22:21.400 against
00:22:22.660 this
00:22:23.160 movement
00:22:23.620 in order
00:22:24.460 to
00:22:25.160 to
00:22:26.620 make
00:22:27.600 people
00:22:27.960 like
00:22:28.360 go
00:22:28.780 maybe
00:22:29.060 to
00:22:29.260 different
00:22:29.520 locations
00:22:30.140 go
00:22:31.060 to
00:22:31.680 like
00:22:33.300 different
00:22:33.960 dates
00:22:34.520 so
00:22:35.280 we are
00:22:36.060 very
00:22:36.320 clear
00:22:36.700 the date
00:22:37.300 is
00:22:37.620 Wednesday
00:22:38.160 20
00:22:39.580 of
00:22:40.020 September
00:22:40.640 9 a.m
00:22:42.340 so
00:22:42.980 the
00:22:43.280 locations
00:22:44.000 the
00:22:44.600 website
00:22:44.980 is
00:22:45.800 for
00:22:46.700 now
00:22:47.120 it
00:22:47.440 is
00:22:47.740 hands
00:22:50.120 of
00:22:50.540 hands
00:22:51.640 off
00:22:51.900 our
00:22:52.040 kids
00:22:52.400 dot
00:22:52.600 ca
00:22:52.940 probably
00:22:53.640 we are
00:22:53.980 going to
00:22:54.340 announce
00:22:54.880 a different
00:22:56.100 website
00:22:56.620 I'm trying
00:22:57.300 to memorize
00:22:57.800 it myself
00:22:58.500 you were
00:22:59.440 talking at
00:22:59.800 the same
00:23:00.060 time
00:23:00.320 there
00:23:00.480 so
00:23:00.640 just
00:23:00.840 for
00:23:01.020 people
00:23:01.300 to
00:23:01.420 know
00:23:01.540 that
00:23:01.740 hands
00:23:02.140 off
00:23:02.560 our
00:23:02.880 kids
00:23:03.360 dot
00:23:03.740 ca
00:23:04.120 and
00:23:04.380 that's
00:23:04.640 the
00:23:04.780 official
00:23:05.140 one
00:23:05.440 the
00:23:05.680 stuff
00:23:05.960 that's
00:23:06.180 on
00:23:06.340 there
00:23:06.580 is
00:23:07.280 associated
00:23:07.720 with
00:23:07.980 you
00:23:08.080 yeah
00:23:08.380 so
00:23:09.020 any
00:23:09.460 information
00:23:10.480 is
00:23:11.020 going
00:23:11.340 to
00:23:11.680 be
00:23:12.080 on
00:23:13.560 my
00:23:13.840 Twitter
00:23:14.220 account
00:23:15.020 on
00:23:16.040 camel's
00:23:17.200 TikTok
00:23:17.700 account
00:23:18.560 camel
00:23:19.500 is
00:23:20.000 not
00:23:20.300 on
00:23:20.700 Twitter
00:23:21.980 so
00:23:22.600 if by
00:23:23.640 accident
00:23:24.120 you find
00:23:24.680 someone
00:23:25.060 claiming
00:23:25.880 that he
00:23:26.360 is camel
00:23:26.780 he's not
00:23:27.360 because
00:23:28.080 they are
00:23:28.460 creating
00:23:28.960 stuff
00:23:29.380 please
00:23:30.020 report
00:23:30.560 them
00:23:30.800 please
00:23:32.500 report
00:23:33.000 them
00:23:33.220 report
00:23:33.700 the
00:23:33.920 profile
00:23:34.440 because
00:23:34.780 we are
00:23:35.220 reporting
00:23:35.760 them
00:23:35.980 well
00:23:36.780 when
00:23:37.020 people
00:23:37.480 are
00:23:37.680 doing
00:23:37.940 it
00:23:38.120 when
00:23:38.240 people
00:23:38.500 are
00:23:38.640 trying
00:23:38.840 to
00:23:39.000 shut
00:23:39.220 you
00:23:39.400 up
00:23:39.620 it
00:23:39.760 means
00:23:40.040 you're
00:23:40.340 you're
00:23:40.540 saying
00:23:40.840 something
00:23:41.220 they're
00:23:41.620 afraid
00:23:42.020 of
00:23:42.280 because
00:23:42.560 it's
00:23:42.820 easier
00:23:43.080 to
00:23:43.260 silence
00:23:43.680 than
00:23:43.960 to
00:23:44.300 debate
00:23:45.100 so
00:23:45.640 I'm
00:23:46.060 glad
00:23:46.300 you both
00:23:46.680 are
00:23:46.880 I mean
00:23:47.100 it's
00:23:47.420 funny
00:23:47.580 you and
00:23:47.900 I could
00:23:48.220 probably
00:23:48.660 have
00:23:49.180 very
00:23:50.000 spirited
00:23:50.500 debates
00:23:50.900 on a
00:23:51.260 number
00:23:51.440 of
00:23:51.640 political
00:23:51.980 issues
00:23:52.400 but
00:23:52.640 when
00:23:52.800 it
00:23:52.920 comes
00:23:53.160 to
00:23:53.400 children
00:23:53.800 you're
00:23:54.100 right
00:23:54.280 that
00:23:54.440 it's
00:23:54.640 a
00:23:54.900 unifying
00:23:55.420 thing
00:23:55.760 here
00:23:56.040 joining
00:23:56.840 me
00:23:57.040 is
00:23:57.260 Dr.
00:23:57.840 Bahira
00:23:58.160 Abdul Salam
00:23:59.060 and
00:23:59.480 Camille
00:23:59.960 El-Sheikh
00:24:00.420 it's
00:24:00.600 wonderful
00:24:00.860 to talk
00:24:01.260 to you
00:24:01.400 both
00:24:01.560 thank
00:24:01.780 you
00:24:01.920 so
00:24:02.160 much
00:24:02.340 for
00:24:02.480 coming
00:24:02.660 on
00:24:02.860 today
00:24:03.060 that
00:24:03.680 was
00:24:05.980 Bahira
00:24:06.520 Abdul Salam
00:24:07.460 and
00:24:07.900 Camille
00:24:08.420 El-Sheikh
00:24:08.900 and I
00:24:09.260 should
00:24:09.500 say
00:24:09.860 and I
00:24:10.220 mentioned
00:24:10.580 it
00:24:10.760 at
00:24:10.920 the
00:24:11.040 end
00:24:11.220 there
00:24:11.420 we
00:24:11.600 could
00:24:11.780 probably
00:24:12.240 the
00:24:12.440 three
00:24:12.640 of
00:24:12.780 us
00:24:12.880 have
00:24:13.060 some
00:24:13.340 spirited
00:24:14.100 debates
00:24:14.500 about
00:24:14.740 a
00:24:14.880 number
00:24:15.080 of
00:24:15.240 issues
00:24:15.540 for
00:24:15.760 example
00:24:16.120 I
00:24:16.360 know
00:24:16.660 Camille
00:24:16.980 has
00:24:17.180 been
00:24:17.380 as you
00:24:17.660 heard
00:24:17.880 a little
00:24:18.160 bit
00:24:18.300 in
00:24:18.400 that
00:24:18.520 interview
00:24:18.800 very
00:24:19.060 vocal
00:24:19.460 on
00:24:20.260 some
00:24:20.640 foreign
00:24:20.980 policy
00:24:21.380 things
00:24:21.700 that
00:24:21.860 I
00:24:22.060 don't
00:24:22.360 particularly
00:24:22.800 agree
00:24:23.180 with
00:24:23.420 and
00:24:23.540 I
00:24:23.680 have
00:24:24.140 warned
00:24:24.700 in
00:24:25.340 the
00:24:25.500 past
00:24:25.940 against
00:24:26.520 creating
00:24:27.120 really
00:24:27.540 really
00:24:27.900 thin
00:24:28.400 coalitions
00:24:29.160 that
00:24:29.460 are
00:24:29.620 formed
00:24:30.120 around
00:24:30.580 a
00:24:31.120 single
00:24:31.400 issue
00:24:31.720 because
00:24:31.980 I've
00:24:32.180 said
00:24:32.360 that
00:24:32.520 just
00:24:32.660 because
00:24:32.940 two
00:24:33.140 people
00:24:33.400 may
00:24:33.600 agree
00:24:33.840 on
00:24:34.020 one
00:24:34.260 thing
00:24:34.540 doesn't
00:24:34.840 mean
00:24:35.060 they'll
00:24:35.700 agree
00:24:36.000 on
00:24:36.440 everything
00:24:37.100 else
00:24:37.420 and
00:24:37.540 I
00:24:37.680 said
00:24:37.940 this
00:24:38.080 about
00:24:38.260 Robert
00:24:38.560 F.
00:24:38.840 Kennedy
00:24:39.020 Jr.
00:24:39.500 for
00:24:39.620 example
00:24:40.000 just
00:24:40.220 because
00:24:40.580 people
00:24:41.360 on
00:24:41.520 the
00:24:41.620 right
00:24:41.820 may
00:24:42.040 agree
00:24:42.340 with
00:24:42.540 him
00:24:42.740 on
00:24:43.220 COVID
00:24:43.820 and
00:24:44.340 vaccine
00:24:44.960 stuff
00:24:45.280 doesn't
00:24:45.580 mean
00:24:45.760 they're
00:24:46.040 going
00:24:46.560 to
00:24:46.720 agree
00:24:46.960 with
00:24:47.180 him
00:24:47.360 on
00:24:47.800 climate
00:24:48.280 change
00:24:48.780 or
00:24:49.020 whatever
00:24:49.420 else
00:24:49.760 so
00:24:49.960 the
00:24:50.760 point
00:24:51.200 of
00:24:51.320 that
00:24:51.480 is
00:24:51.620 not
00:24:51.800 that
00:24:51.940 we
00:24:52.100 shouldn't
00:24:52.460 work
00:24:52.720 together
00:24:53.140 and
00:24:53.360 reach
00:24:53.580 across
00:24:53.940 the
00:24:54.140 aisle
00:24:54.400 I'm
00:24:54.840 just
00:24:54.980 saying
00:24:55.180 we
00:24:55.320 should
00:24:55.500 do
00:24:55.680 so
00:24:56.040 while
00:24:56.640 understanding
00:24:57.320 exactly
00:24:57.940 what is
00:24:58.320 at stake
00:24:58.780 here
00:24:59.020 and
00:24:59.180 the
00:24:59.460 enemy
00:24:59.740 of
00:24:59.920 your
00:25:00.060 enemy
00:25:00.280 can
00:25:00.620 be
00:25:00.800 your
00:25:01.000 friend
00:25:01.380 but
00:25:02.080 only
00:25:02.460 sometimes
00:25:03.080 for
00:25:03.620 a
00:25:03.940 period
00:25:04.340 of
00:25:04.700 time
00:25:04.980 and
00:25:05.120 that's
00:25:05.320 not
00:25:05.540 a
00:25:06.020 smear
00:25:06.380 at
00:25:06.560 anyone
00:25:06.920 that
00:25:07.100 I've
00:25:07.240 spoken
00:25:07.520 to
00:25:07.780 or
00:25:08.000 spoken
00:25:08.720 about
00:25:08.980 on
00:25:09.160 this
00:25:09.320 show
00:25:09.560 I
00:25:09.760 think
00:25:10.000 if
00:25:10.140 anything
00:25:10.440 it's
00:25:10.680 talking
00:25:10.960 about
00:25:11.220 how
00:25:11.420 real
00:25:11.900 this
00:25:12.600 issue
00:25:12.900 is
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00:26:27.400 author
00:26:27.860 Linda
00:26:28.220 Blade
00:26:28.520 Dr.
00:26:29.400 Linda
00:26:29.680 Blade
00:26:29.960 who is
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00:26:30.560 former
00:26:30.840 president
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00:26:35.720 Barbara
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00:28:33.720 most
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00:29:27.400 biology
00:29:27.980 female
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00:29:28.960 female
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00:29:44.500 people
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00:29:44.960 this
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00:31:10.060 CBC
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00:32:13.560 kid
00:32:13.820 that
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00:32:14.520 hand
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00:32:15.020 in
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00:32:15.840 same
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00:32:21.740 kind
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00:32:47.920 a
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00:34:04.140 also
00:34:04.420 seeing
00:34:04.800 that
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00:34:08.120 in
00:34:08.380 all
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00:34:09.340 talked
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00:34:09.700 people
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00:34:10.160 I
00:34:10.660 mentioned
00:34:10.940 the
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00:34:13.020 the
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00:34:13.980 and
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00:34:21.800 are
00:34:22.020 forced
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00:34:23.220 everyone
00:34:23.420 knows
00:34:23.720 a
00:34:23.880 woman
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00:34:25.160 woman
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00:34:27.340 me
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00:34:32.060 the
00:34:32.180 NDP
00:34:32.480 to
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00:34:32.960 women
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00:34:38.120 knowing
00:34:38.900 that
00:34:39.320 hoping
00:34:40.040 that
00:34:40.460 women
00:34:40.740 wouldn't
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00:34:41.240 anything
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00:34:42.540 saying
00:34:42.860 something
00:34:43.320 and
00:34:44.220 right
00:34:44.820 across
00:34:45.180 the
00:34:45.360 political
00:34:45.700 spectrum
00:34:50.860 women
00:34:51.460 from
00:34:51.680 radical
00:34:52.200 feminists
00:34:52.700 all
00:34:53.040 across
00:34:53.400 the
00:34:53.540 board
00:34:53.660 in
00:34:53.820 Canada
00:34:54.120 every
00:34:54.800 province
00:34:55.220 tell me
00:34:55.680 if
00:34:56.140 you
00:34:56.320 can
00:34:56.500 get
00:34:56.720 this
00:34:56.960 done
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00:34:57.940 to
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00:35:03.420 athletics
00:35:04.400 and
00:35:04.840 sport
00:35:05.360 and
00:35:05.520 I
00:35:05.540 think
00:35:05.660 that's
00:35:05.900 a
00:35:06.040 tremendously
00:35:06.400 important
00:35:06.880 one
00:35:07.060 and
00:35:07.160 I've
00:35:07.380 actually
00:35:07.660 cited
00:35:08.180 and
00:35:08.920 I
00:35:09.160 I'm
00:35:09.780 kind
00:35:10.040 of
00:35:10.140 undermining
00:35:10.540 my
00:35:10.740 point
00:35:10.980 here
00:35:11.160 because
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00:35:11.620 cited
00:35:11.860 a
00:35:12.060 stat
00:35:12.280 that
00:35:12.440 now
00:35:12.600 I
00:35:12.740 can't
00:35:20.860 doping
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00:35:23.480 you
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00:35:24.000 I
00:35:24.120 know
00:35:24.240 very
00:35:24.420 little
00:35:24.620 about
00:35:24.820 sports
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00:35:25.320 I
00:35:25.420 know
00:35:25.560 that
00:35:25.740 doping
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00:35:26.360 like
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00:35:30.320 thing
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00:35:32.080 and
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00:35:33.000 put
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00:35:33.640 book
00:35:33.940 the
00:35:34.140 stats
00:35:34.480 of
00:35:34.640 just
00:35:34.820 how
00:35:34.980 much
00:35:35.200 of
00:35:35.300 an
00:35:35.400 advantage
00:35:35.840 me
00:35:36.540 competing
00:35:37.340 against
00:35:37.600 a
00:35:37.720 female
00:35:37.980 would
00:35:38.200 have
00:35:38.560 over
00:35:38.960 someone
00:35:39.440 who
00:35:39.760 doped
00:35:40.200 against
00:35:40.820 someone
00:35:41.120 who's
00:35:41.580 not
00:35:41.820 doped
00:35:42.080 that
00:35:42.220 was
00:35:42.380 astronomical
00:35:42.920 and
00:35:43.280 I
00:35:43.840 felt
00:35:44.140 like
00:35:44.340 on
00:35:44.500 the
00:35:44.600 athletic
00:35:44.980 stuff
00:35:45.360 we're
00:35:45.580 starting
00:35:45.920 to see
00:35:46.240 people
00:35:46.540 get
00:35:46.780 that
00:35:47.040 point
00:35:47.360 I
00:35:47.520 mean
00:35:47.640 the
00:35:47.800 Riley
00:35:48.080 Gaines
00:35:48.540 and
00:35:48.740 Leah
00:35:48.940 Thomas
00:35:49.480 debacle
00:35:50.680 for
00:35:50.900 example
00:35:51.280 really
00:35:51.600 did
00:35:51.880 break
00:35:52.300 out
00:35:52.560 of
00:35:52.700 the
00:35:52.880 typical
00:35:53.240 political
00:35:53.820 rooms
00:35:55.120 in which
00:35:55.600 this
00:35:55.860 issue
00:35:56.140 is being
00:35:56.480 discussed
00:35:56.900 to a
00:35:57.400 lot
00:35:57.540 more
00:35:57.720 mainstream
00:35:58.120 audiences
00:35:58.760 absolutely
00:36:00.680 and I
00:36:01.260 think
00:36:01.500 it's
00:36:01.940 it was
00:36:02.860 bound
00:36:03.080 to
00:36:03.260 happen
00:36:03.680 I
00:36:04.460 mean
00:36:04.620 when
00:36:04.780 you
00:36:04.900 come
00:36:05.100 for
00:36:05.240 women's
00:36:05.660 sports
00:36:06.020 you
00:36:06.520 come
00:36:06.740 into
00:36:06.920 a
00:36:07.120 realm
00:36:07.460 of
00:36:07.980 fighters
00:36:08.340 and
00:36:08.640 competitors
00:36:09.060 I
00:36:09.480 don't
00:36:09.640 know
00:36:09.820 how
00:36:10.120 in
00:36:10.260 the
00:36:10.380 world
00:36:10.740 the
00:36:11.660 ideologues
00:36:12.860 and
00:36:13.020 zealots
00:36:13.420 thought
00:36:13.720 that
00:36:13.920 if
00:36:14.040 they
00:36:14.180 come
00:36:14.480 and
00:36:14.660 take
00:36:14.880 women's
00:36:15.200 sports
00:36:15.460 away
00:36:15.760 from
00:36:15.980 women
00:36:16.240 and
00:36:16.420 girls
00:36:16.800 that
00:36:17.620 somehow
00:36:18.060 the
00:36:18.300 female
00:36:18.800 athletes
00:36:19.200 were
00:36:19.400 all
00:36:19.580 just
00:36:19.780 going
00:36:19.900 to
00:36:20.000 sit
00:36:20.180 by
00:36:20.460 and
00:36:20.660 let
00:36:20.840 it
00:36:20.980 happen
00:36:21.360 without
00:36:21.760 a
00:36:22.300 fight
00:36:22.580 and
00:36:22.960 truthfully
00:36:24.460 when a
00:36:25.440 person
00:36:25.640 dopes
00:36:26.040 it's
00:36:26.240 like
00:36:26.480 I'll
00:36:26.960 add
00:36:27.160 to
00:36:27.340 your
00:36:27.640 actual
00:36:28.120 numbers
00:36:28.460 there
00:36:28.620 it's
00:36:28.840 about
00:36:29.120 a
00:36:29.260 9
00:36:29.580 8
00:36:30.300 9
00:36:30.580 percent
00:36:30.900 advantage
00:36:31.520 with
00:36:32.180 an
00:36:32.300 adult
00:36:38.640 advantage
00:36:39.380 when
00:36:39.800 it's
00:36:40.360 jumping
00:36:40.720 it's
00:36:41.000 almost
00:36:41.220 20
00:36:41.540 percent
00:36:41.840 advantage
00:36:42.140 when
00:36:42.340 it's
00:36:42.620 weightlifting
00:36:43.080 it's
00:36:43.340 up to
00:36:43.580 50
00:36:43.920 percent
00:36:44.240 advantage
00:36:44.620 and
00:36:45.100 when
00:36:45.660 it's
00:36:45.880 putting
00:36:46.120 it
00:36:46.260 all
00:36:46.400 together
00:36:46.720 in
00:36:46.840 a
00:36:46.920 big
00:36:47.060 punch
00:36:47.420 like
00:36:47.640 in
00:36:47.780 boxing
00:36:48.140 it's
00:36:48.380 160
00:36:49.120 percent
00:36:49.560 advantage
00:36:50.060 so
00:36:50.840 truthfully
00:36:51.760 having
00:36:53.160 a man
00:36:53.680 no matter
00:36:54.200 if
00:36:54.580 this
00:36:55.580 person
00:36:55.900 identifies
00:36:56.400 and
00:36:56.860 wants
00:36:57.540 to
00:36:58.080 even
00:36:58.600 have
00:36:58.840 on
00:36:59.000 their
00:36:59.100 driver's
00:36:59.520 license
00:36:59.780 that
00:37:00.040 they're
00:37:00.400 a
00:37:01.200 woman
00:37:01.500 the
00:37:02.380 truth
00:37:02.660 of
00:37:02.820 the
00:37:02.900 matter
00:37:03.080 is
00:37:03.260 they
00:37:03.380 have
00:37:03.640 a
00:37:03.780 male
00:37:03.960 body
00:37:04.400 and
00:37:06.040 even
00:37:06.660 if
00:37:06.900 you
00:37:07.180 basically
00:37:07.720 reduce
00:37:08.580 their
00:37:08.760 testosterone
00:37:09.280 to
00:37:09.560 zero
00:37:09.880 it
00:37:10.220 doesn't
00:37:10.520 matter
00:37:10.800 because
00:37:11.060 they
00:37:11.240 already
00:37:11.480 have
00:37:11.720 built
00:37:11.940 in
00:37:12.080 advantages
00:37:12.560 it's
00:37:12.960 a
00:37:13.040 different
00:37:13.240 model
00:37:13.640 our
00:37:14.340 bodies
00:37:14.680 have
00:37:14.900 two
00:37:15.100 different
00:37:15.380 designs
00:37:16.000 and
00:37:16.860 it's
00:37:17.020 just
00:37:17.120 not
00:37:17.300 fair
00:37:17.560 and
00:37:17.760 we
00:37:17.900 know
00:37:18.060 that
00:37:18.300 everybody
00:37:18.580 knows
00:37:18.940 that
00:37:19.240 implicitly
00:37:20.020 and
00:37:20.480 the
00:37:20.640 fact
00:37:20.820 that
00:37:20.920 we
00:37:21.020 have
00:37:21.180 to
00:37:21.280 come
00:37:21.460 out
00:37:21.660 and
00:37:21.820 state
00:37:22.100 it
00:37:22.320 it's
00:37:22.760 it's
00:37:23.060 kind
00:37:23.240 of
00:37:23.340 a
00:37:23.460 pity
00:37:23.640 in
00:37:23.820 a
00:37:23.920 way
00:37:24.180 but
00:37:24.420 you
00:37:24.580 know
00:37:24.740 hey
00:37:25.040 then
00:37:25.700 I'll
00:37:25.880 say
00:37:26.080 it
00:37:26.280 if
00:37:26.700 I
00:37:26.840 have
00:37:27.020 to
00:37:27.140 say
00:37:27.340 it
00:37:27.520 the
00:37:27.880 emperor
00:37:28.120 has
00:37:28.440 no
00:37:28.600 clothes
00:37:28.980 I
00:37:29.540 mean
00:37:29.740 when
00:37:30.320 you
00:37:30.440 mentioned
00:37:30.700 the
00:37:30.860 word
00:37:31.060 fair
00:37:31.540 the
00:37:31.840 problem
00:37:32.360 is
00:37:32.660 is
00:37:32.780 that
00:37:32.960 fairness
00:37:33.460 itself
00:37:34.060 is
00:37:34.320 not
00:37:34.580 really
00:37:34.880 all
00:37:35.080 that
00:37:35.260 desirable
00:37:35.760 to
00:37:36.280 the
00:37:36.720 people
00:37:37.000 that
00:37:37.180 are
00:37:37.300 pushing
00:37:37.580 this
00:37:37.860 because
00:37:38.080 the
00:37:38.280 narrative
00:37:38.600 that
00:37:38.820 they
00:37:39.000 use
00:37:39.340 is
00:37:40.020 one
00:37:40.340 not
00:37:40.600 crafted
00:37:41.020 around
00:37:41.320 fairness
00:37:41.700 but
00:37:41.920 one
00:37:42.160 crafted
00:37:42.620 around
00:37:42.980 tolerance
00:37:43.640 or
00:37:44.320 acceptance
00:37:45.060 even
00:37:45.800 that
00:37:46.120 though
00:37:46.320 I
00:37:46.500 must
00:37:46.860 ask
00:37:47.300 your
00:37:47.840 thoughts
00:37:48.180 on
00:37:48.320 this
00:37:48.480 seems
00:37:48.840 to
00:37:49.040 me
00:37:49.220 a
00:37:49.380 bit
00:37:49.520 thin
00:37:56.280 both
00:37:56.540 males
00:37:56.900 and
00:37:57.120 females
00:37:57.460 could
00:37:57.680 compete
00:37:58.040 to
00:37:58.260 eliminate
00:37:58.600 the
00:37:58.860 problem
00:37:59.260 of
00:37:59.780 males
00:38:00.680 entering
00:38:01.220 female
00:38:01.720 spheres
00:38:02.040 and
00:38:02.220 that
00:38:02.500 to
00:38:02.660 me
00:38:02.780 seemed
00:38:03.040 great
00:38:03.260 because
00:38:03.480 we're
00:38:03.620 not
00:38:03.800 excluding
00:38:04.280 trans
00:38:04.700 people
00:38:04.920 from
00:38:05.160 sport
00:38:05.500 we're
00:38:05.960 giving
00:38:06.160 them
00:38:06.320 an
00:38:06.480 option
00:38:06.780 but
00:38:07.020 that
00:38:07.280 was
00:38:07.460 not
00:38:07.720 adequate
00:38:08.120 they
00:38:08.400 were
00:38:08.540 saying
00:38:08.800 no
00:38:08.960 no
00:38:09.060 no
00:38:09.180 I
00:38:09.360 don't
00:38:09.760 want
00:38:09.960 to
00:38:10.060 just
00:38:10.220 be
00:38:10.380 able
00:38:10.500 to
00:38:10.620 compete
00:38:10.920 as
00:38:12.420 a
00:38:12.820 woman
00:38:13.280 and
00:38:13.920 that
00:38:14.240 to
00:38:14.400 me
00:38:14.540 strikes
00:38:14.980 me
00:38:15.640 as
00:38:15.800 a
00:38:15.880 bit
00:38:15.980 odd
00:38:16.180 because
00:38:16.440 it
00:38:16.740 actually
00:38:17.080 undermines
00:38:17.660 their
00:38:17.880 whole
00:38:18.080 argument
00:38:18.400 that
00:38:18.660 what
00:38:18.800 they're
00:38:18.960 really
00:38:19.180 after
00:38:19.600 is
00:38:20.080 acceptance
00:38:20.620 and
00:38:21.020 just
00:38:21.520 being
00:38:21.860 able
00:38:22.100 to
00:38:22.240 play
00:38:22.560 well
00:38:24.520 that's
00:38:24.800 really
00:38:25.060 fascinating
00:38:25.600 and I
00:38:25.900 think
00:38:26.020 what
00:38:26.160 you're
00:38:26.360 referring
00:38:26.620 to
00:38:26.820 is
00:38:26.940 world
00:38:27.160 cycling
00:38:27.400 just
00:38:28.360 put
00:38:28.660 in
00:38:28.780 a
00:38:28.880 new
00:38:28.980 law
00:38:29.260 and
00:38:30.260 it
00:38:31.220 has
00:38:31.460 been
00:38:31.620 proven
00:38:31.920 it's
00:38:32.200 been
00:38:32.320 shown
00:38:32.600 now
00:38:32.840 in
00:38:32.980 the
00:38:33.060 last
00:38:33.280 few
00:38:33.440 weeks
00:38:33.700 that
00:38:33.880 since
00:38:34.160 that
00:38:34.420 policy
00:38:34.860 changed
00:38:35.740 and
00:38:36.240 there's
00:38:36.420 an
00:38:36.540 open
00:38:36.800 policy
00:38:37.280 now
00:38:37.600 where
00:38:37.900 anybody
00:38:38.360 who's
00:38:38.840 of
00:38:39.400 any
00:38:39.660 identity
00:38:40.180 can
00:38:41.020 be
00:38:41.220 in
00:38:41.340 this
00:38:41.480 open
00:38:41.840 category
00:38:42.760 they
00:38:43.700 still
00:38:44.160 insist
00:38:44.620 the
00:38:44.860 male
00:38:45.240 born
00:38:46.120 people
00:38:46.800 still
00:38:47.460 insist
00:38:47.880 in
00:38:48.040 coming
00:38:48.320 into
00:38:48.620 the
00:38:48.780 women's
00:38:49.280 section
00:38:49.940 and
00:38:51.520 claiming
00:38:52.060 that
00:38:52.380 they
00:38:52.700 need
00:38:53.140 to
00:38:53.240 be
00:38:53.360 affirmed
00:38:53.800 and
00:38:54.280 when
00:38:54.920 we
00:38:55.280 see
00:38:55.600 that
00:38:55.980 the
00:38:56.400 message
00:38:56.720 is
00:38:56.940 very
00:38:57.180 clear
00:38:57.600 it's
00:38:58.160 not
00:38:58.360 about
00:38:58.600 fairness
00:38:58.880 as
00:38:59.100 you
00:38:59.220 say
00:38:59.440 it's
00:38:59.760 about
00:38:59.960 using
00:39:00.420 women's
00:39:00.940 sports
00:39:01.380 as
00:39:02.280 a
00:39:02.440 social
00:39:02.720 therapy
00:39:03.220 and
00:39:04.200 you
00:39:05.020 know
00:39:05.220 look
00:39:06.720 there's
00:39:07.020 other
00:39:07.240 ways
00:39:07.500 to
00:39:07.640 get
00:39:07.800 help
00:39:08.120 and
00:39:08.380 therapy
00:39:08.780 and
00:39:09.060 for
00:39:09.280 affirmation
00:39:10.020 you
00:39:11.340 don't
00:39:11.560 need
00:39:11.780 to
00:39:11.940 use
00:39:12.240 women's
00:39:12.620 sports
00:39:12.900 to
00:39:13.880 do
00:39:14.040 that
00:39:14.380 right
00:39:15.420 and
00:39:15.780 women's
00:39:16.920 sports
00:39:17.180 needs
00:39:17.720 also
00:39:18.000 to
00:39:18.220 be
00:39:18.440 safe
00:39:18.960 not
00:39:19.360 only
00:39:19.540 fair
00:39:19.920 but
00:39:20.240 safe
00:39:20.580 and
00:39:20.720 if
00:39:20.860 you
00:39:20.980 have
00:39:21.260 a
00:39:21.380 male
00:39:21.520 body
00:39:21.800 let's
00:39:22.000 say
00:39:22.160 in
00:39:22.340 women's
00:39:22.840 rugby
00:39:23.060 or
00:39:23.540 women's
00:39:24.820 MMA
00:39:25.200 fights
00:39:25.700 as
00:39:25.860 we've
00:39:26.100 seen
00:39:26.400 women's
00:39:27.240 skull
00:39:27.540 getting
00:39:27.860 cracked
00:39:28.500 and
00:39:28.860 orbital
00:39:29.640 bone
00:39:30.120 getting
00:39:30.360 crushed
00:39:30.700 I
00:39:30.840 mean
00:39:30.980 come
00:39:31.160 on
00:39:31.400 like
00:39:31.700 they
00:39:32.320 just
00:39:32.500 don't
00:39:32.720 belong
00:39:33.160 in
00:39:33.320 women's
00:39:33.620 sports
00:39:33.940 it's
00:39:34.160 very
00:39:34.360 simple
00:39:34.820 to
00:39:35.880 bring
00:39:36.120 this
00:39:36.320 back
00:39:36.600 to
00:39:36.860 the
00:39:37.080 policy
00:39:37.540 resolution
00:39:38.160 you've
00:39:38.520 put
00:39:38.680 forward
00:39:39.100 here
00:39:39.440 is
00:39:40.040 there
00:39:40.300 a
00:39:40.640 role
00:39:41.080 for
00:39:41.600 government
00:39:42.280 policy
00:39:42.920 or
00:39:43.120 legislation
00:39:43.540 on
00:39:43.980 this
00:39:44.200 or
00:39:44.340 is
00:39:44.520 this
00:39:44.680 an
00:39:44.820 issue
00:39:45.020 that
00:39:45.180 has
00:39:45.400 to
00:39:45.520 be
00:39:45.640 decided
00:39:46.160 by
00:39:46.660 the
00:39:47.540 governing
00:39:47.860 bodies
00:39:48.300 of
00:39:48.620 all
00:39:48.820 of
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00:39:49.400 sports
00:39:49.880 and
00:39:50.160 sporting
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00:39:51.260 the
00:39:51.440 Olympics
00:39:51.780 and
00:39:52.100 so
00:39:52.320 on
00:39:52.640 and
00:39:52.780 the
00:39:53.280 Canadian
00:39:53.940 cycling
00:39:54.540 associations
00:39:55.300 and
00:39:55.580 swimming
00:39:55.880 associations
00:39:56.560 and
00:39:56.800 all
00:39:56.960 of
00:39:57.080 that
00:39:57.360 all
00:39:59.360 of
00:39:59.500 the
00:39:59.600 above
00:39:59.880 Andrew
00:40:00.160 because
00:40:00.480 the
00:40:00.680 truth
00:40:00.920 is
00:40:01.180 that
00:40:01.340 we
00:40:01.480 wouldn't
00:40:01.920 be
00:40:02.080 in
00:40:02.240 this
00:40:02.380 position
00:40:02.700 in
00:40:02.920 Canada
00:40:03.200 if
00:40:03.420 it
00:40:03.500 had
00:40:03.640 been
00:40:03.960 for
00:40:04.500 Justin
00:40:04.820 Trudeau
00:40:05.300 and
00:40:05.460 Bill
00:40:05.600 C-16
00:40:06.060 and
00:40:06.820 then
00:40:07.040 that
00:40:07.600 intimidates
00:40:08.560 all
00:40:08.920 the
00:40:09.060 sports
00:40:09.300 organizations
00:40:09.860 into
00:40:10.380 pushing
00:40:11.160 the
00:40:11.380 most
00:40:11.640 radical
00:40:12.200 policy
00:40:12.760 possible
00:40:13.460 undermining
00:40:14.340 women
00:40:14.600 and
00:40:14.800 girls
00:40:14.980 so
00:40:15.220 you
00:40:15.420 have
00:40:15.640 to
00:40:15.760 fix
00:40:16.580 Bill
00:40:16.820 C-16
00:40:17.260 either
00:40:17.660 get
00:40:21.780 sex-based
00:40:22.460 exemptions
00:40:23.620 or
00:40:23.800 something
00:40:24.280 and
00:40:25.080 then
00:40:25.440 you
00:40:25.840 do
00:40:26.100 have
00:40:26.420 to
00:40:26.580 then
00:40:26.860 get
00:40:27.120 strong
00:40:27.540 with
00:40:27.760 sports
00:40:28.080 organizations
00:40:28.620 saying
00:40:29.020 look
00:40:29.320 there's
00:40:30.420 a reason
00:40:30.780 we have
00:40:31.140 a female
00:40:31.520 category
00:40:31.980 and it's
00:40:32.320 for
00:40:32.440 female
00:40:32.740 bodies
00:40:33.160 and
00:40:34.120 so
00:40:34.500 from
00:40:35.220 the
00:40:35.360 grassroots
00:40:35.780 right
00:40:36.360 through
00:40:36.660 to
00:40:36.860 legislation
00:40:37.420 we
00:40:38.240 need
00:40:38.680 consistent
00:40:39.300 policy
00:40:40.340 and
00:40:40.500 approach
00:40:41.020 to
00:40:41.620 having
00:40:41.900 boundaries
00:40:42.340 around
00:40:42.740 women's
00:40:43.460 safety
00:40:43.980 and
00:40:44.220 privacy
00:40:44.620 and
00:40:44.920 dignity
00:40:45.220 I
00:40:45.400 mean
00:40:45.560 that's
00:40:46.740 what
00:40:46.860 we're
00:40:47.020 asking
00:40:47.280 for
00:40:47.520 and
00:40:47.760 to
00:40:48.340 put
00:40:48.500 it
00:40:48.620 in
00:40:48.760 a
00:40:48.880 platform
00:40:49.240 okay
00:40:49.520 it
00:40:49.640 doesn't
00:40:49.840 achieve
00:40:50.160 it
00:40:50.300 yet
00:40:50.480 but
00:40:50.660 at
00:40:50.840 least
00:40:51.100 one
00:40:51.320 party
00:40:51.580 would
00:40:51.740 maybe
00:40:51.940 stand
00:40:52.360 for
00:40:52.540 something
00:40:52.980 to
00:40:55.080 go
00:40:55.260 back
00:40:55.520 to
00:40:55.680 the
00:40:55.820 emperor's
00:40:56.320 new
00:40:56.500 clothes
00:40:56.860 metaphor
00:40:57.240 here
00:40:57.680 I'm
00:40:58.080 curious
00:40:58.440 if
00:40:58.680 you
00:40:58.780 can
00:40:59.020 explain
00:40:59.660 the
00:40:59.880 minds
00:41:00.340 of
00:41:00.700 these
00:41:00.940 athletics
00:41:01.380 regulators
00:41:01.980 here
00:41:02.340 are
00:41:02.940 you
00:41:03.220 convinced
00:41:03.920 that
00:41:04.320 if
00:41:04.840 you
00:41:05.000 were
00:41:05.140 to
00:41:05.340 eliminate
00:41:05.780 the
00:41:06.120 human
00:41:06.420 rights
00:41:06.840 complaints
00:41:07.500 that
00:41:08.420 they
00:41:08.600 fear
00:41:09.020 and
00:41:09.580 the
00:41:09.780 human
00:41:10.060 rights
00:41:10.380 litigation
00:41:10.920 that
00:41:11.180 they
00:41:11.340 fear
00:41:11.720 and
00:41:11.880 the
00:41:12.020 media
00:41:12.380 slander
00:41:13.780 that
00:41:14.000 they
00:41:14.160 fear
00:41:14.480 that
00:41:15.060 they
00:41:15.240 would
00:41:15.400 all
00:41:15.680 protect
00:41:16.260 single
00:41:19.840 themselves
00:41:20.860 been
00:41:21.320 co-opted
00:41:22.380 by
00:41:22.580 this
00:41:22.840 narrative
00:41:23.260 and
00:41:23.540 they're
00:41:23.880 drinking
00:41:24.280 the
00:41:24.500 kool-aid
00:41:24.880 so to
00:41:25.240 speak
00:41:25.540 yeah
00:41:27.480 I would
00:41:27.960 say
00:41:28.160 about
00:41:28.420 10%
00:41:28.980 of the
00:41:29.260 people
00:41:29.600 who
00:41:30.040 govern
00:41:30.520 sports
00:41:31.300 really
00:41:32.460 have
00:41:32.980 drunk
00:41:33.780 the
00:41:34.000 kool-aid
00:41:34.280 they
00:41:34.460 really
00:41:34.840 believe
00:41:35.280 that
00:41:35.560 if
00:41:35.700 a
00:41:35.820 person
00:41:36.060 says
00:41:36.440 he's
00:41:37.940 a
00:41:38.040 woman
00:41:38.300 he's
00:41:38.860 a
00:41:38.940 woman
00:41:39.140 something
00:41:39.920 magical
00:41:40.840 happens
00:41:41.220 in a
00:41:41.480 trillion
00:41:41.720 cells
00:41:42.260 and
00:41:43.100 all
00:41:43.420 the
00:41:43.580 genetics
00:41:43.980 changes
00:41:44.500 instantly
00:41:45.220 because
00:41:45.580 somebody
00:41:45.960 says
00:41:46.260 that
00:41:46.500 I
00:41:47.580 don't
00:41:47.700 know
00:41:47.880 how
00:41:48.160 you can
00:41:48.460 believe
00:41:48.700 that
00:41:48.920 but
00:41:49.080 that
00:41:49.440 turns
00:41:49.740 into
00:41:50.000 a
00:41:50.160 religion
00:41:50.480 as far
00:41:50.860 as
00:41:51.000 I'm
00:41:51.200 concerned
00:41:51.560 you
00:41:51.860 have
00:41:52.060 to
00:41:52.140 have
00:41:52.220 a
00:41:52.320 very
00:41:52.760 strong
00:41:53.100 belief
00:41:53.460 and
00:41:53.880 we
00:41:54.000 never
00:41:54.240 picked
00:41:54.560 sports
00:41:55.020 policy
00:41:55.640 or
00:41:55.960 categories
00:41:56.540 or
00:41:56.960 eligibility
00:41:57.380 on the
00:41:57.840 basis
00:41:58.100 of
00:41:58.300 religion
00:41:58.640 like
00:41:58.900 when
00:41:59.600 in the
00:41:59.820 world
00:42:00.060 did
00:42:00.280 an
00:42:00.460 athlete
00:42:00.740 sign
00:42:01.060 up
00:42:01.220 for
00:42:01.360 a
00:42:01.440 race
00:42:01.620 and
00:42:01.740 say
00:42:01.820 okay
00:42:02.000 all
00:42:02.160 the
00:42:02.300 Jews
00:42:02.620 over
00:42:02.860 here
00:42:03.100 and
00:42:03.220 all
00:42:03.340 the
00:42:03.440 Muslims
00:42:03.700 over
00:42:03.920 there
00:42:04.200 and
00:42:04.340 all
00:42:04.440 the
00:42:04.540 Christians
00:42:04.820 over
00:42:05.000 here
00:42:05.140 like
00:42:05.460 we
00:42:05.600 don't
00:42:05.880 do
00:42:06.060 that
00:42:06.280 in
00:42:06.440 sport
00:42:06.680 you
00:42:06.860 put
00:42:07.020 your
00:42:07.180 ideology
00:42:07.680 aside
00:42:08.060 and
00:42:08.160 you
00:42:08.240 compete
00:42:08.500 with
00:42:08.660 your
00:42:08.780 bodies
00:42:09.260 and
00:42:10.060 so
00:42:10.280 for
00:42:10.960 those
00:42:11.340 who
00:42:11.560 actually
00:42:11.940 believe
00:42:12.580 this
00:42:13.680 ideology
00:42:14.500 this
00:42:14.880 renewed
00:42:15.260 social
00:42:15.820 secular
00:42:16.600 religion
00:42:17.060 I would
00:42:17.400 say
00:42:17.600 you've
00:42:18.760 got to
00:42:19.080 look
00:42:19.260 at
00:42:19.480 reality
00:42:20.560 and
00:42:22.120 if
00:42:22.360 you
00:42:22.580 don't
00:42:23.080 accept
00:42:23.400 that
00:42:23.600 then
00:42:23.800 there
00:42:23.960 shouldn't
00:42:24.220 even
00:42:24.460 be
00:42:24.760 a
00:42:24.880 woman's
00:42:25.220 category
00:42:25.440 there
00:42:25.760 should
00:42:26.000 be
00:42:26.120 just
00:42:26.300 one
00:42:26.500 big
00:42:26.720 sports
00:42:27.060 category
00:42:27.460 no
00:42:27.740 ages
00:42:28.120 even
00:42:28.400 you
00:42:28.840 should
00:42:28.980 be
00:42:29.080 able
00:42:29.160 to
00:42:29.380 identify
00:42:29.900 into
00:42:30.180 another
00:42:30.440 age
00:42:30.920 if
00:42:31.640 you're
00:42:31.780 not
00:42:31.940 going
00:42:32.060 to
00:42:32.180 accept
00:42:32.400 reality
00:42:32.940 then
00:42:33.940 don't
00:42:34.720 expect
00:42:35.200 there
00:42:35.400 to
00:42:35.500 be
00:42:35.640 any
00:42:35.900 categories
00:42:36.380 in
00:42:36.560 sport
00:42:36.820 at
00:42:36.960 all
00:42:37.100 just
00:42:37.260 one
00:42:37.520 big
00:42:37.880 glob
00:42:38.780 and
00:42:39.100 then
00:42:39.640 we
00:42:39.780 know
00:42:39.940 who's
00:42:40.160 going
00:42:40.280 to
00:42:40.360 win
00:42:40.520 that
00:42:40.740 it's
00:42:41.220 the
00:42:41.540 fit
00:42:42.380 young
00:42:42.940 strapping
00:42:43.900 young
00:42:44.120 adult
00:42:44.420 males
00:42:44.760 are
00:42:44.980 going
00:42:45.140 to
00:42:45.200 win
00:42:45.360 everything
00:42:45.740 and
00:42:46.020 so
00:42:46.200 the
00:42:46.400 reason
00:42:46.640 you
00:42:46.860 have
00:42:47.240 stratification
00:42:49.200 and
00:42:49.560 boundaries
00:42:50.220 and
00:42:50.520 categories
00:42:50.860 is
00:42:51.100 to
00:42:51.260 maximize
00:42:51.620 participation
00:42:52.460 not
00:42:53.800 exclude
00:42:54.380 women
00:42:54.660 and
00:42:54.880 girls
00:42:55.140 but
00:42:55.540 the
00:42:55.880 rest
00:42:56.120 of
00:42:56.300 them
00:42:56.540 are
00:42:57.300 being
00:42:57.680 bullied
00:42:58.040 by
00:42:58.500 this
00:42:58.760 minority
00:42:59.220 who
00:42:59.500 think
00:42:59.740 they
00:42:59.960 have
00:43:00.360 some
00:43:00.640 sort
00:43:00.900 of
00:43:01.020 celestial
00:43:01.560 predisposition
00:43:03.560 or
00:43:03.820 predestination
00:43:04.580 to be
00:43:05.240 the
00:43:05.980 enlightened
00:43:06.360 ones
00:43:06.860 and
00:43:07.660 it's
00:43:07.900 just
00:43:08.080 ridiculous
00:43:08.520 it's
00:43:09.040 ridiculous
00:43:09.520 that
00:43:10.120 we
00:43:11.500 are
00:43:11.700 being
00:43:11.920 intimidated
00:43:12.340 by
00:43:12.800 this
00:43:13.080 tiny
00:43:13.440 minority
00:43:13.860 of
00:43:14.260 true
00:43:14.460 believers
00:43:14.840 I
00:43:15.100 don't
00:43:15.360 really
00:43:15.840 understand
00:43:16.260 why
00:43:16.500 we're
00:43:17.000 getting
00:43:17.260 there
00:43:17.600 how
00:43:18.140 did
00:43:19.760 we
00:43:19.900 ever
00:43:20.100 get
00:43:20.320 here
00:43:20.560 but
00:43:20.780 it's
00:43:21.280 everywhere
00:43:21.740 well
00:43:22.580 and
00:43:22.800 certainly
00:43:23.140 if
00:43:23.840 it's
00:43:24.020 90%
00:43:24.820 that
00:43:25.500 are
00:43:25.980 doing
00:43:26.400 what
00:43:26.620 they
00:43:26.800 do
00:43:27.020 out
00:43:27.220 of
00:43:27.420 fear
00:43:27.740 then
00:43:28.000 that
00:43:28.180 actually
00:43:28.480 means
00:43:28.820 that
00:43:29.100 there
00:43:29.740 is
00:43:29.880 a
00:43:30.000 role
00:43:30.140 for
00:43:30.320 government
00:43:30.660 and
00:43:30.940 saying
00:43:31.380 not
00:43:31.740 to
00:43:31.900 go
00:43:32.040 in
00:43:32.180 and
00:43:32.320 force
00:43:32.520 them
00:43:32.660 to
00:43:32.760 do
00:43:32.940 something
00:43:33.240 but
00:43:33.440 to
00:43:33.600 take
00:43:33.840 that
00:43:34.160 card
00:43:34.800 off
00:43:35.060 the
00:43:35.220 table
00:43:35.540 that
00:43:35.760 opponents
00:43:36.140 can
00:43:36.340 play
00:43:36.660 which
00:43:36.900 is
00:43:37.060 the
00:43:37.220 C-16
00:43:37.820 you
00:43:38.020 mentioned
00:43:38.300 this
00:43:38.500 is
00:43:38.620 the
00:43:38.880 bill
00:43:39.520 that
00:43:39.700 launched
00:43:40.000 Jordan
00:43:40.280 Peterson
00:43:40.640 his
00:43:40.920 career
00:43:41.260 well
00:43:41.860 not his
00:43:42.200 career
00:43:42.460 but
00:43:42.680 sort
00:43:42.920 of
00:43:43.000 launched
00:43:43.240 his
00:43:43.420 celebrity
00:43:43.820 and
00:43:44.740 it's
00:43:45.160 the
00:43:45.280 bill
00:43:45.480 that
00:43:45.700 adds
00:43:46.040 to
00:43:46.200 the
00:43:46.320 Canadian
00:43:46.520 Human
00:43:46.740 Rights
00:43:47.000 Act
00:43:47.240 gender
00:43:47.600 and
00:43:47.800 gender
00:43:48.200 identity
00:43:48.660 and
00:43:48.880 you've
00:43:49.040 also
00:43:49.240 got
00:43:49.580 in
00:43:50.080 other
00:43:50.280 provinces
00:43:50.760 their
00:43:51.100 own
00:43:51.280 versions
00:43:51.620 of
00:43:51.800 that
00:43:52.000 Ontario's
00:43:52.700 is
00:43:52.840 particularly
00:43:53.740 bad
00:43:54.140 well
00:43:54.340 we
00:43:54.740 will
00:43:54.900 be
00:43:55.080 watching
00:43:55.680 very
00:43:56.080 closely
00:43:56.460 this
00:43:56.800 policy
00:43:57.340 resolution
00:43:57.840 in
00:43:58.200 Quebec
00:43:58.460 City
00:43:58.720 I'll
00:43:58.920 be
00:43:59.020 there
00:43:59.280 covering
00:43:59.780 it
00:43:59.940 I know
00:44:00.120 you've
00:44:00.280 got
00:44:00.380 your
00:44:00.520 fingers
00:44:00.780 crossed
00:44:01.160 and
00:44:01.340 I
00:44:01.520 again
00:44:02.440 I
00:44:02.700 know
00:44:02.880 that
00:44:03.040 it
00:44:03.180 doesn't
00:44:03.440 force
00:44:03.720 the
00:44:03.860 party
00:44:04.100 to
00:44:04.260 campaign
00:44:04.620 on
00:44:04.780 the
00:44:04.900 issue
00:44:05.100 but
00:44:05.240 it
00:44:05.360 certainly
00:44:05.640 reflects
00:44:06.300 where
00:44:06.960 conservative
00:44:07.700 members
00:44:08.120 and a lot
00:44:08.500 of
00:44:08.640 Canadians
00:44:08.980 are
00:44:09.300 so
00:44:09.560 good
00:44:10.300 on
00:44:10.660 you
00:44:10.800 for
00:44:10.980 doing
00:44:11.200 it
00:44:11.360 Linda
00:44:11.580 Blade
00:44:11.920 is
00:44:12.280 the
00:44:12.520 co-author
00:44:12.960 of
00:44:13.240 Unsporting
00:44:14.020 How
00:44:14.440 Transactivism
00:44:15.300 and Science
00:44:15.920 Denial
00:44:16.280 are
00:44:16.540 Destroying
00:44:17.000 Sport
00:44:17.340 and
00:44:17.620 she
00:44:17.780 is
00:44:17.920 the
00:44:18.080 former
00:44:18.320 president
00:44:18.720 of
00:44:19.000 Athletics
00:44:19.500 Alberta
00:44:19.900 thank
00:44:20.720 you
00:44:20.840 so
00:44:20.980 much
00:44:21.140 Linda
00:44:21.380 thank
00:44:22.920 you
00:44:23.040 Andrew
00:44:23.300 that
00:44:24.160 was
00:44:24.440 Dr.
00:44:25.140 Linda
00:44:25.340 Blade
00:44:25.640 and
00:44:25.760 as
00:44:25.900 mentioned
00:44:26.180 we'll
00:44:26.580 definitely
00:44:27.000 keep
00:44:27.260 tabs
00:44:27.580 on
00:44:27.980 that
00:44:28.420 convention
00:44:29.100 motion
00:44:29.600 when
00:44:30.520 I
00:44:30.760 am
00:44:30.880 in
00:44:31.080 Quebec
00:44:31.380 City
00:44:31.680 in
00:44:32.040 just
00:44:32.400 a
00:44:32.720 couple
00:44:32.860 of
00:44:32.980 weeks
00:44:33.120 time
00:44:33.360 actually
00:44:33.600 I
00:44:33.720 think
00:44:33.840 it
00:44:34.180 starts
00:44:34.520 in
00:44:34.920 13
00:44:35.500 days
00:44:35.940 if
00:44:36.300 memory
00:44:41.580 today
00:44:41.940 we'll
00:44:42.140 be
00:44:42.260 back
00:44:42.540 on
00:44:42.920 Tuesday
00:44:43.380 with
00:44:43.640 more
00:44:43.840 of
00:44:43.980 Canada's
00:44:44.460 most
00:44:44.860 irreverent
00:44:45.360 talk
00:44:45.600 show
00:44:45.800 this
00:44:46.400 is
00:44:46.720 the
00:44:46.960 Andrew
00:44:47.180 Lawton
00:44:47.420 show
00:44:47.680 on
00:44:47.980 True
00:44:48.160 North
00:44:48.380 thank
00:44:48.700 you
00:44:48.840 God
00:44:49.140 bless
00:44:49.420 and
00:44:49.740 good
00:44:49.960 day
00:44:50.180 to
00:44:50.320 you
00:44:50.420 all
00:44:50.480 thanks
00:44:50.660 for
00:44:50.780 listening
00:44:51.080 to
00:44:51.280 the
00:44:51.400 Andrew
00:44:51.680 Lawton
00:44:52.000 show
00:44:52.280 support
00:44:53.120 the
00:44:53.280 program
00:44:53.600 by
00:44:53.820 donating
00:44:54.180 to
00:44:54.380 True
00:44:54.580 North
00:44:54.840 at
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