Juno News - May 01, 2021


Will society ever return to normal?


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What are public manners going to be like in Canadian society moving forward as we step out of the Pandemic? What are handshakes going to look like moving forward? And who is the onus on to make sure the social exchange is a pleasant one for all?

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00:00:00.000 What are public manners going to be like in Canadian society moving forward as we step out
00:00:12.100 of this pandemic? What are handshakes going to be like? What are greetings going to be like? I've
00:00:16.280 been thinking about this a lot lately, as I think opinion is very starkly divided right now among
00:00:22.920 Canadian society. You know, I was remembering about a year ago, Tony Fauci, Dr. Fauci, he said
00:00:28.100 on CNN or at some press conference or something that the shaking of hands may be a thing of the
00:00:33.320 past. We may never do it again. I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, a bit over the top. I've
00:00:38.980 already had circumstances, encounters where you meet someone and they extend the hand for a
00:00:43.420 handshake. Maybe people do the handshake or maybe they go, oh yeah, I forgot we're not really supposed
00:00:47.460 to do that. And they go for the elbow thing or, you know, what have you. But there's people out there
00:00:51.500 who are not horrified by the idea of a handshake. Let me put it that way. And there are other people
00:00:56.240 who I think really are horrified by the idea of a handshake and they do not want to go back to it.
00:01:01.580 How's that going to happen moving forward? Sort of very basic social interactions, exchanges that
00:01:07.520 we've taken for granted throughout our lives. They're going to be a little bit different moving
00:01:12.760 forward, whether you like it or not, because maybe you're okay with going back to these things, but
00:01:17.460 other people may not be. And you never know. You don't know how to navigate that terrain.
00:01:21.660 And I guess that also brings me to ask, well, who is the onus on to sort of make sure the social
00:01:28.780 exchange is a pleasant one for all? Is the onus to sort of take what the lowest barometer of
00:01:34.820 offense is and go, okay, because there's some people out there who are not going to like the
00:01:38.200 handshake. We're not going to do the handshake anymore. And we all just have to say no handshake.
00:01:43.060 Or is it up to that percentage of people who are really uncomfortable with the handshake?
00:01:47.000 I don't know what the percentage is for them to just exempt themselves and for them to kind of
00:01:52.280 feel awkward. So you extend the hand for the handshake and then they just kind of, oh, no,
00:01:56.480 thanks or what have you, or they extend for the fist bump or what have you. One thing that's kind
00:02:02.040 of been frustrating me a lot lately is the dynamics around the joggers, around the running. I like to go
00:02:07.520 running and it's something I've been doing for years. And I've always considered myself a well-mannered
00:02:12.500 runner, by which I mean, I'm not running close to people on the sidewalk or, you know, you don't
00:02:17.240 want to startle people and so forth. You give folks a, a wide berth and so forth when you're passing
00:02:21.980 them. And if there's a person on the sidewalk who has a stroller or they're in a mobility device or
00:02:26.480 whatnot, of course you just, you know, get out of the way. You're not running near them. You're the
00:02:30.540 faster person. You don't want to inconvenience them or be disrespectful to them and so forth. So be a
00:02:35.140 polite runner. I'm all about that. But one thing that's, that's getting a little odd is those people
00:02:40.580 who, when they see you coming, they don't just, you know, move six feet out of the way or expect
00:02:45.560 you to move six feet of the way or whatever, but they make a point of walking far up some other
00:02:51.280 person's driveway. This happens so much. Walk up all the way up this driveway and kind of glare at you
00:02:56.380 as you go by or something. They stop and they kind of wait. It happens a lot. If you're a runner,
00:03:00.840 you've may have had this experience. And I'm kind of like, look, when I got sort of close to you,
00:03:06.580 I would have certainly left the sidewalk. I probably would have done that anyway in non-COVID
00:03:11.640 times. I would have left the sidewalk and I would not have been six feet close to you. COVID times
00:03:16.420 or non-COVID times. So number one, that. Number two, generally infectious diseases experts say
00:03:22.520 outdoor transmission just isn't really a thing in those fleeting moments. I mean, the various studies
00:03:28.260 and reports they've done have shown there has been some degree of outdoor transmission, very,
00:03:32.920 very few cases that they found. But when people are at prolonged close contact together, so like
00:03:38.540 really sitting right beside each other on the bleachers or something, talking for a long period
00:03:42.520 of time, that, that kind of thing. But this, this passing someone, like someone running by you or
00:03:47.220 bicycling by you, it's just not a thing. So I'm kind of like, yes, I'm, I'm a polite runner. I want to be
00:03:53.660 polite and respectful to people I pass by. But then at the same time, I'm like, you're, you're walking
00:03:58.380 all the way up a driveway, like 10, 15 feet away. You're kind of glaring at me as if I've done
00:04:03.100 something wrong when like, I, I haven't done something wrong. So I got to say, you're kind of
00:04:09.100 the person who's kind of messing up the social nicety there. We were not going to be six feet
00:04:14.060 apart anyway. And yet you're doing this kind of oddball thing that I got to say six months ago,
00:04:20.180 I was like, well, you know, whatever. People are still navigating this COVID thing. Fine. Now I'm like,
00:04:24.080 what is the reason behind doing this? What is the evidence besides like extreme antisocial
00:04:29.420 behavior? So there you go. That's clearly a pet peeve that I've been experiencing of late. And I
00:04:36.280 don't know, are people going to come together on these things in the months ahead as Canada probably
00:04:42.320 sees the case rates drop again, more and more folks are vaccinated and so on. It should mean that
00:04:47.320 people are okay with going back to shaking hands or that yes, they don't want to jog or bumping into
00:04:52.820 them, but they're not going to flee and glower at the person or maybe they are what's going to
00:04:58.860 happen in the months ahead. I hope it's a coming together, but I'm really worried that the social
00:05:03.880 fabric is kind of already frayed.