Will there be a federal election this fall?
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In this week's Alberta roundup, we are joined by Andrew Lawton to discuss Alberta Premier Danielle Smith's upcoming interview with Prime Minister Rachel Notley, the carbon tax, and parental rights. We also discuss the federal Conservative Party's support for parental rights, and the role of provinces in standing up for parents.
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hey everyone welcome back to the Alberta roundup I'm your host Rachel Emanuel today we are joined
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by the one and only Andrew Lawton whenever I run into you guys in public you always tell me
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how much you love Andrew and how he's your favorite true north personality so I thought
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I would stop boring you all with myself and finally give the people what they want welcome
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to the show Andrew I don't believe anyone's ever said that to you but it's a kind introduction
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anyway so I'll take it so I have a surprise for you guys that I hadn't announced yet I was actually
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supposed to have Alberta Premier Danielle Smith on my show this week we were going to record that on
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Friday that has been moved it's still happening it will just be next week instead because Andrew who
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is coming to us live from the Canada Strong and Free Networking Conference which is still informally
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known as the Manning Conference stole my interview with Alberta Premier Daniel Smith he will be
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interviewing Premier Smith at the Manning Conference on Friday in my defense I didn't know
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I was stealing Premier Danielle Smith from you I was just I they just told me where to go they told me
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to go on a stage to moderate a fireside chat so with no intended efforts on my part to disrupt you
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you'll be the one has the final word so that means that I'll just get it warmed up and then you'll be in
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there with the real questions now this isn't the first time that this has happened but in Andrew's
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defense I think I went on mat leave the last time so I guess it's not entirely his fault Andrew I'm sure
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you don't want to give away your entire fireside chat with Danielle on Friday but what's a little
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bit of a look ahead what are some of the things that you're hoping to ask the Premier about I think
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certainly we'll be talking about parental rights I did an interview with her about this when she was
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in Ontario actually a couple of months ago and I think there's a lot more on that and she's speaking
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to a room full of people who are part of the Conservative movement in the country so my hope is that
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she'll be able to be particularly candid compared to you know if she's on a CBC interview or something
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like that not that she makes a habit of that so I also want to talk about some of the affordability
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issues I mean obviously we know her position on the carbon tax and on federalism but she's actually
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faced some criticism from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation for allowing the Alberta gas tax to go up and
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I've never really heard her explain in too much detail how she rationalizes that inherent contradiction
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so that'll be one thing I'd like to talk about as well and I also think in general when you're
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speaking to a Premier in this particular point in time really that Ottawa province relationship what
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is it what does it need to look like and what might a perhaps Conservative government do differently that
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she would rather see and help that relationship because we see these criticisms from provinces not
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just Alberta Saskatchewan New Brunswick even Ontario to some extent like the Federalist project right now
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is broken. Now Andrew you obviously cover the federal government you cover the Federal Conservative
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Party when we're talking about parental rights especially of course Alberta Premier Danielle Smith
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has come out and said what she intends to do here in Alberta we've had some other provinces come out
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do you think that there is one province that's really setting the tone and do you think the fact
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that provinces have come out in such strong support of parents do you think that has impacted
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Federal Conservative leader Pierre Polyev and his willingness to also come out
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and stand up for parents whereas before he kind of just said it was up to the provinces to decide
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what to do. I think it certainly made an effect I think New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs who I'm going to be
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doing an interview with as well I think he really was the one that led the way on this in terms of established
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political voices people in elected office moving on this issue but Danielle Smith when she took it on she actually went beyond
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what happened in New Brunswick and beyond what happened in Saskatchewan so I think it added to
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a current that already existed in Canadian politics which certainly made it easier for Pierre Polyev
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who remember used to just say yeah this is a provincial matter and then a few weeks back he's coming out
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and saying no biological men don't belong in female spaces so he clearly has evolved to become more
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comfortable taking this on and I think it is really a reflection of Premiers such as Danielle Smith
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providing a political base and proving there is a political base on these issues.
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Based on your observations of covering the federal government of covering the federal conservative
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party do you think there is one province that's really setting the tone for conservative policy
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in the country right now and potentially could impact a future federal conservative government?
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It's a tough question I mean in some ways I'd say New Brunswick does stand out because New Brunswick is not an
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especially conservative place so when they're doing what I would call red meat conservative policies
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the stakes are a lot higher than they are in Alberta which for the most part is a very
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conservative province notwithstanding the orange aberration of a few years back but I think the
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important thing is that if you can't do it in Alberta you can't do it anywhere and to go back to
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the COVID era when the Alberta government under Jason Kenney went down the road of vaccine mandates
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and vaccine passports that really killed the idea that anywhere in the country could really
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reject those. So I think Alberta needs to be that line in the sand where we can get away with doing the
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So I know the conference hasn't really begun people are trickling in right now and registering but I'm sure
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there's some excitement on the ground right now. Something that I'm wondering is whether people are
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talking about a federal election. I was watching an interview with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau recently on
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CBC News actually and they were questioning him about a federal election. We know that the Prime Minister has been
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jetting all across the country you know when he comes to Alberta he must have a good reason for it and he's been
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making some big budget announcements. So do you see that as a sign that we could see a federal election this fall?
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Yeah it's a good question. I think that the fact that conservatives really really want an election
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means the Liberals don't have an incentive to call one. People on the right would love to go to the polls now.
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I had on my show Jamil Javani the newly elected Conservative Member of Parliament who even though
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he does want a by-election is saying that he wants to go back to the polls for a general election like
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now because it's looking so great. So when the conservatives are posting like 10, 15, 20 point
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leads depending on the poll over the Liberals I don't think the Liberals are in any hurry to go to an
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election. I think maybe theoretically if something big happens this summer and the Liberals start to do
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really well they might be motivated to pull the trigger but I'm kind of thinking at this point
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it's going to be fall 2025 which is the scheduled election date. Another thing I have to ask you about
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is the carbon tax. I know that there is going to be a panel on the carbon tax this weekend. Of course
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we've had the AXA tax protest going on here in Calgary for over a week now. I know there's a couple
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other locations where a remnant of protesters had stayed for now over a week to protest the carbon tax.
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Now of course there's not too many people at these protests at least not during the week. We typically
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see them swell on the weekends when more people are off work and can show up but do you think that
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these protests are actually making an impact or is it really just too few people for people to be
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talking about it in the news headlines and also just in discussions at the at the conference?
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Well people are certainly talking about it. I mean I'm right now across the hallway from the Canada
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the Canadian Taxpayers Federation booth and they've certainly been sounding the alarm about this. I know
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you've been doing tremendous coverage of people in the west that weren't just content to have a one
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day protest that have kept this on now for approaching two weeks. So I think people are
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talking about it. I think the carbon tax is one piece of a broader affordability question where
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you know even if the carbon tax were to disappear overnight it doesn't make inflation go away. It
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doesn't make government debt go away. It doesn't make all of these things go away. The issue is not
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that it's a panacea to get rid of the carbon tax. The issue is that it's government deliberately
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aggravating a lot of people in this country who are already struggling and I think in that sense
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it's become a very meaningful political issue for people. So I know federal conservative leader
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Pierre Polyev is slated to speak at the conference. He also spoke last year. There's been other times
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where we haven't seen a federal conservative leader attend the conference but this year there's a pretty
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good lineup. Do you think that with Pierre speaking and some of the other big conservative names they
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have like Danielle Smith, do you think that the Manning Conference is really setting itself apart as the
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place to be to discuss conservative policy in the country? So I actually believe that Prime Minister Stephen
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Harper when he was the Prime Minister never spoke at one of these and that was when you'd assume he would
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want to but it just didn't happen. It didn't have the relevance of say CPAC in the U.S. on these sorts of
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things. So I think there's been a change. I think the movement in the right in Canada has evolved a lot in the
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last few years in particular. I see we see the proliferation of independent media. We see the COVID
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era and how that has really caused there to be this expansion, this swelling of the conservative
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base. And then you have a guy like Pierre Polyev who has really come up age in the development of the
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conservative movement. He was on Preston Manning's riding board when he was 14. The Canada Strong and
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Free Network used to be the Manning Centre. I think he has a guy who was there when the right was uniting,
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the reform and then the alliance uniting with the PCs to birth the Conservative Party of Canada. So I
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think the fact that he's here is that he's reflecting that he is a movement conservative. He's not one of
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these guys that's from the red Tory tradition or a social conservative background. He's really coming
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from that grassroots Western-led conservative movement and I think he has a soft spot for the
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organization and the people here. And Andrew, I have to ask, which panel are you most looking forward to?
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Well, I've got to be my own if I just do that. But no, no, no, I wouldn't say my own. I'm actually
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interested in Tony Abbott, who's the former Prime Minister of Australia, and he's actually going to
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be a guest on my show as well. But he was a very fascinating figure in Australia. Again, he was a
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very hard-line conservative in a country that isn't inherently conservative. And I think there might be
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some perhaps lessons he can bring to Canadians on the right from his experiences in Australia.
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And finally, just before I let you go, I'm wondering where are viewers who are interested
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and following your content can find that this weekend.
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We are live every day on the Andrew Lawton Show at True North at 11 a.m. Mountain Time,
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and we'll have some other interviews coming out over the course of the weekend and also next week.
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Okay, Andrew, thank you so much for joining the show. For the rest of you, I'll be back on Saturday
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with my regular episode and, of course, with some coverage of the Canada Strong and Free Networking
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Conference, including what Alberta Premier Danielle Smith and Andrew Lawton talked about on Friday.
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I will see you guys on Saturday. I hope that you have a great rest of your week, and God bless.