Juno News - October 20, 2024


Will Trudeau go down with his carbon tax？


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00:00:00.000 and now i'm joined by franco terrazzano the federal director of the canadian's taxpayers
00:00:09.100 federation to break down the latest pbo report on the carbon tax are you actually getting out
00:00:16.300 ahead because of it the federal government certainly wants you to think so franco some
00:00:19.540 thank you so much for being here today hey my pleasure thanks for having me on so obviously
00:00:25.260 we're really grateful for the canadian taxpayers federation for all the work that you guys do
00:00:29.200 to break down these numbers for canadians and actually get to the heart of what's going on
00:00:34.040 we know there's been a lot of disinformation from the true liberals about the carbon tax and they
00:00:38.820 seem desperate to convince canadians that it's benefiting us why don't you start by breaking
00:00:43.300 down these latest numbers from the pbo what does it actually say about how canadians are being impacted
00:00:47.500 by the carbon tax well it's costing us big time and it's costing us more hundreds of dollars more
00:00:54.760 than what we're getting back in rebates right so the pbo the parliamentary budget officer which is
00:01:00.080 the government's own independent non-partisan budget watchdog is proving once again with like its
00:01:05.800 third report it's proving what canadians outside of the political bubble in ottawa already know that
00:01:11.920 the carbon tax is making our lives more expensive so here are the numbers folks that according to the
00:01:18.880 pbo the carbon tax will cost the average family up to three hundred and ninety nine dollars more this
00:01:26.500 year than what they're getting back in rebates but of course trudeau plans to make your life more
00:01:31.980 expensive by cranking up the carbon tax every single year so by 2030 the carbon tax will cost the average
00:01:39.380 family up to nine hundred and three dollars more than what they're getting back in rebates but you know
00:01:44.900 what folks even those huge costs downplay the total costs over those time right so between now and the
00:01:51.640 end of 2030 the carbon tax will cost the average family up to four thousand three hundred dollars more
00:01:58.900 than what they're getting back in rebates so pbo confirming what most canadians already know is that
00:02:04.500 the carbon tax makes our life more expensive and is a huge drag on the canadian economy with this
00:02:11.360 liberal government a trend that we've seen more so than with any other government that i've personally
00:02:16.560 covered is really just uh hard-headedness they seem so unwilling to change directions even when
00:02:23.240 it's been proven time and time again that the policies they're putting forward aren't working for
00:02:26.800 canadians we've even seen bc premier david evey obviously in the midst of an election change his tune
00:02:31.960 on carbon tax carbon pricing you know like they usually like to use more euphemisms to refer to it because
00:02:37.760 it's so unpopular why do you think that the trudeau government hasn't changed directions on the carbon
00:02:43.180 tax is it just something that they believe they're so tied to ideologically that they're unwilling to
00:02:48.060 to change their tune on it you know that's a really good question and the honest answer is i don't know
00:02:54.540 like i really don't know right because you can see that they're sticking to the carbon tax as of yet
00:03:00.000 to their own detriment right everyone can read the same polls that show the support for the liberals are
00:03:05.580 plummeting well let's ask ourselves why support for the liberals in ottawa are plummeting it's because
00:03:11.420 they are making life too expensive and like the key example is the carbon tax and you know the reason
00:03:18.720 the carbon tax is so damaging so hurtful for so many canadians is because it it impacts almost every
00:03:25.620 aspect of canadian life well canada is a very big country guess what the carbon tax makes it more
00:03:32.220 expensive for you to get around for you to fuel up your car to get to work or to take the kids
00:03:36.800 to hockey practice well canada is a very cold place and guess what the carbon tax makes it more expensive
00:03:42.480 for you to stay warm right the carbon tax on natural gas alone this year will cost the average family
00:03:48.740 like 360 bucks and that's just the carbon tax on natural gas uh well guess what we all need to eat
00:03:55.580 and the carbon tax stings you there too right the carbon tax makes it more expensive for farmers to grow
00:04:01.180 food the carbon tax makes it more expensive for truckers to deliver the food and of course the
00:04:05.740 carbon tax makes it more expensive for you to buy food and let's not forget our economy which is so
00:04:11.700 reliant on canada's abundant natural resources well the carbon tax will cost our canadian economy
00:04:18.020 like 12 billion dollars this year alone you know i just want to sort of even take a stab at that it was
00:04:24.620 funny i was reading the news today and steven guibo our federal environment minister his press secretary
00:04:30.380 even admitted in media she said you know the carbon tax gets a lot of negative attention
00:04:34.860 i suspect one of the reasons the liberals aren't willing to change their tune on this is because
00:04:38.780 they've been pushing it so hard for so long that it would basically just admit the level of government
00:04:44.720 incompetence and that they are not able to govern canadians properly i don't know if it's something
00:04:48.800 that they could really change their tune on because i suspect it would lead to the fall of the government
00:04:53.000 because it's been something they've been pushing so hard for so long and it's really if you think about
00:04:57.620 the liberal government this has been one of their pinnacle policies from day one this is something
00:05:01.440 that they've been pushing so hard since trudeau was elected so i don't know if they can change
00:05:05.300 their tune on it i know canadians are hoping that we'll be heading to the polls that early soon
00:05:09.380 speaking of guibo we have him once again trying to justify this tax let's roll this clip of him
00:05:15.240 in the house of commons i want to get your reaction to it franco considering only the fiscal
00:05:20.360 impact of the federal fuel charge pbo estimates that average household in each of the backstop
00:05:25.220 provinces in 2030 2031 will see a net gain receiving more from the canada carbon rebate than the total
00:05:33.220 amount they pay in federal fuel charge that's what the pbo report says so now's the time to clear the
00:05:40.740 air on pierre poliev's big lie to canadian he's been misleading canadian the pbo is very clear canadian
00:05:48.500 more canadians get money back from the canada carbon rebate than than what they pay what is also clear
00:05:54.900 is that our plan is working we've never seen in our history before emissions go down at a time of
00:06:01.740 full economic growth in this country that that has never happened before
00:06:07.860 okay i'm gonna let you respond to the actual content of what he said there but just off the
00:06:14.480 top just kind of reading his body language nothing says i know the facts like literally reading off of
00:06:20.920 a piece of paper like this is you're the federal environment minister you literally have one job
00:06:24.700 you can't even memorize basic facts to read them to the media you understand this so little that you
00:06:29.840 actually have to read the report like i could do that like anyone could do that go ahead rachel
00:06:34.920 rachel uh he kind of let the cat out of the bag when he said quote only the fiscal impacts right
00:06:41.820 ignore the big costs in the room ignore the elephant in the room uh you know what gibo minister
00:06:47.920 not so fast because you're not considering the full cost of the carbon tax right rachel what he said
00:06:55.240 is like me saying yeah i'm sticking to my diet if you don't count the big mac and fries and beer that
00:07:01.000 i had saturday night right well you can't just look at one part of the cost you got to look at all of the
00:07:06.560 costs and what as i mentioned right the carbon tax it doesn't just cost you when you go to the gas
00:07:12.920 pumps it doesn't just cost you when you heat your home right it costs you in almost every aspect of
00:07:18.600 life where the carbon tax costs are passed throughout the entire economy just as an example
00:07:23.980 right when a farmer is growing food well the carbon tax will cost farmers like a billion dollars by 2030
00:07:30.760 then you got to have a trucker to deliver the food well the carbon tax cost truckers about two
00:07:36.200 billion dollars this year alone so you can see how the carbon tax has this trickle effect
00:07:41.480 throughout the entire canadian economy right so gibo isn't even covering the full costs
00:07:47.780 right but the parliamentary budget officer looked at all of the costs and when you look at all of the
00:07:53.560 costs the carbon tax will cost average families hundreds of dollars more than they get back in
00:07:59.280 rebates oh by the way the pbo's numbers only look at the consumer carbon tax right you're also paying
00:08:06.560 an industrial carbon tax and another carbon tax that trudeau buried in fuel regulation so at the
00:08:13.140 end of the day the carbon tax is costing canadians big time and you know what i think the liberals even
00:08:19.240 know that frigo just my last question for you here i talked to chris sims the alberto director of the
00:08:25.580 canadian taxpayers federation all the time and she tells me a lot of you know really heart-wrenching
00:08:30.080 stories about how many how much you guys are hearing from canadians about how they're really struggling
00:08:34.460 with regards to this latest report i mean i know there's also just a level of fatigue with the
00:08:38.720 level government it seems like it's bad news all the time with them but you guys often get more of
00:08:43.900 a personal element when you're hearing from people who are you know really struggling to make ends meet
00:08:48.560 losing their homes can't pay for gas can't pay for groceries have you heard from canadians about this
00:08:52.980 latest report well the big thing that we're getting from canadians from this latest report we hear from
00:08:59.880 canadians all the time struggling to make ends meet but from this latest report it's kind of well no
00:09:06.500 duh of course the carbon tax is making life more expensive of course the carbon tax cost people more
00:09:13.240 than what they get back in rebates right like think about it the government also charges its sales tax on
00:09:20.080 top of the carbon tax costing canadians hundreds of millions of dollars and that tax on tax money isn't
00:09:25.940 rebated back right the government is also spending like 200 million dollars hiring the bureaucrats to
00:09:32.020 administer the carbon tax so there's no way that a government can impose a carbon tax skim hundreds of
00:09:38.080 millions of dollars off the top then charge its sales tax on top of the carbon tax and somehow make
00:09:43.920 everyone better off and rachel you know i mentioned that even the liberals know the carbon tax makes life
00:09:49.140 more expensive case in point last year the liberal government trudeau surrounded by his atlantic
00:09:55.240 canadian caucus announced that he would take the carbon tax off of furnace oil for a couple of
00:10:00.960 years to provide relief well the carbon tax isn't making life more expensive why would trudeau take the
00:10:07.280 carbon tax off of furnace oil that was an admission that the carbon tax makes life more expensive and it
00:10:13.940 was also an admission that the carbon tax is about politics not the planet franco thank you so much
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