Woke TikTok journalist gets FIRED from CTV
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Summary
Mario Zalaya is a political commentator, entrepreneur, and TikTok founder. He has been on TikTok for over a year and a half and is now a full-time political commentator. In this episode, Mario talks about how he got started with TikTok and how he became a viral sensation in Canada.
Transcript
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Mark Carney. Trudeau's money man. Globalist. China's pal. Weeks in, he jets to Beijing.
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Scores a $250 million loan from their state bank. 11 MPs tied to Beijing. Carney's crew
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says nothing. Selling us out. Foreign cash. Secret deals. Carney's Canada.
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Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great show for you today
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and you might notice I'm in a different studio than normal. Well, my family and I recently
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purchased an acreage in rural Ontario and we are here at the farm. I'm so excited.
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I have my four kids out with us. We're going to have such an adventure out here.
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And originally I was going to buy a new studio to match the studio that I have in my other house.
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So I was going to buy the same bookcases and the same plants and the same backdrop.
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But then the original farmhouse here has this beautiful wooden office. I kind of feel like I'm
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at Tucker Carlson's studio, like in the woods in Maine. And I just thought it was so beautiful.
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So I decided to stick with it. I know it's a little dark in here. I'm going to be buying
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better lighting and I'm going to improve the whole setup in here. But I'm super excited and I hope
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maybe I'll even start having people in studio and doing interviews in here because it's a really
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beautiful space. I'm really excited for today's show. I'm joined by a new guest that I've never
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had on the program before. His name is Mario Zalaya. He's a political commentator and a businessman.
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And if you're anything like me, you see Mario's videos all over social media. All of a sudden,
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I just started seeing them pop up on X all the time, going through the news stories,
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pointing out the facts, giving us a fact-based analysis. I love it. And so I wanted to have Mario
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to join us on the show today. So Mario, great to have you today.
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Yeah. Thanks very much for having me on, Candice.
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So tell us about yourself, Mario. How did you become this sort of viral political
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sensation in Canada? I think you're on TikTok. Is that right?
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Yeah. So I started in TikTok about maybe two years ago. And funny enough, originally it started
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and the way my account, my original account, and I'll explain in a second, my original account
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blew up because, uh, I had, uh, a bad experience with an old, uh, Tesla model S I had bought in 2013,
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long story short. Um, the way it was designed, uh, the AC condensate was leaking water on top of the
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battery battery died. There was literally, so basically water was leaking on, on top of the
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battery battery died. Tesla had a notification. I only got a notification of high voltage that
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basically that means it couldn't blow up. Uh, I took it to them. Um, they wouldn't warranty it.
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Um, and it was a $29,000 bill that went like mega viral, like 19 million views plus covered by
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almost every major news station, uh, I think in the world. And it would be, it became a huge thing.
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And my account really exploded. And I honestly, I just started posting about business and stuff in
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general. And I started seeing, um, I, I started realizing politics was affecting more of my life
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than I ever thought imaginable. And I was never into politics at all. I never followed it. And it was
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literally about a year and a half ago that I really started commenting on it. And people are like,
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you're uncovering a lot of stuff and you're giving us a different perspective. And as time went on,
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you start kind of connecting the dots. And that's all I really like to do is I like to really take up,
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look up news articles and connect a dot with something else that might've happened before
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with something else that might've happened before, which something else that maybe wasn't covered.
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And that that's ultimately all I'm doing. And I'm presenting it to people in a way where they can
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digest it. And so, you know, the, the common feedback I've had from people is they really
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liked that approach and people who don't even care about politics. They never cared about it before.
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Um, I've been to, you know, one of my kids plays basketball. Uh, I've had kids that he plays
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against with asking me for pictures. Like these are, you know, 11 year old kids who recognize me,
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who want to take pictures and they see my videos all the time on Tik TOK. And, um, just because I,
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I own a lot of businesses, I'm very busy. I don't really have time to do this. Like I do this only
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when I have spare time. Um, and I tried doing it as, um, punctually as possible in a, sorry,
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in a succinct manner, uh, as much as possible. And, uh, it was only really until I think I've
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only been on X and Instagram for about four months and both accounts are going quite rapidly.
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Um, and I'm, I'm just continuing what I'm doing. And a lot of it, a lot of it has to do because
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my staff member is actually helping me post, um, videos that maybe I've posted before that are still
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relevant today, but it was really his idea to say, you know what, Mario, like, like, let me just
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repost this stuff for you. Cause I told him I just don't have time. And so now that I create a video,
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I have a good system of, uh, how to upload it and kind of grow these other accounts and get people
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more aware of what's happening in our country. Well, I absolutely love your videos. I think
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you're so good at getting to the bottom of things and pointing out what the key part of a story is
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that maybe the media is missing or the political class is missing. And sometimes it takes an outsider's
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perspective, or if I could ask, what is it that got you into politics? Like what happened a year and a
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half ago that sort of flipped the switch that made you start thinking about this stuff?
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Uh, I mean, I don't know if there was anything, well, I would say that the major thing that really
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irritated me, um, uh, to no end, and I don't think I'll still forgive the government was the vaccines.
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Like my wife and I were never going to get it. Um, and it was this, uh, coercion that was done
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on people like myself, um, who didn't want it, but we couldn't travel anywhere. We couldn't do anything
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and we're bottled up. We can't go to transportation. You couldn't go to a food court and sit down and
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eat your food with a special class of people. If you didn't have a vaccine and you know,
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there wasn't really much to do. We couldn't leave the country. We couldn't do much. And
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you know, we're, we're debating, you know, should we, should we not do it? You know, the,
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the numbers look safe. It looks okay to the state. It's one of the biggest regrets we have.
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That was one of the big steps. And that obviously was more than a year and a half ago. And, you
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know, during that time period, I mean, I had a extremely successful business. Uh, it's called
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Bad Axe Throwing. Uh, I think a lot of people would recognize it. Like if people know what axe
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throwing is modern day wise, you probably know because of me, if you've ever seen it on TV,
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that's one of my other companies that I own, which is called the World Axe Throwing. I had to deal with,
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uh, ESPN, uh, which then televised it on TSN. So if you ever see any sort of axe
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throwing championship competitions, that's one of the other companies that I own.
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While that company, you know, uh, is still doing quite well and bad axe throwing is as well.
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Um, you know, back then we were just crushing it. Um, and you know, the, the big comparisons,
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like from the U S to Canada was just completely night and day. And it was purely political.
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The U S was like, you know what? We asked you to close down. We're really going to support you.
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Um, I got in the U S for, for my U S uh, operations of the business. And I've never said this publicly,
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but I got nearly a million dollars from the government as a grant. Like the, the, the,
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this is, this is to maintain my operations, to keep people on payroll, to pay for my rent
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because they, uh, they forced me to shut down. Canada gave us a $40,000 loan. And my operations
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weren't that much different in Canada than they were in the U S except we were shut down for two
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to three times longer in Canada. Uh, Ontario, most people don't realize, and I know this because
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I was in the most scrutinized shutdown industry in the world. I was an indoor recreation
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entertainment or, you know, don't go into those indoor places. You know, you're, you're going to get
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COVID or what are the sanitation's limits on it? Oh, you know, you can't do that. You should only go
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out in groups with your own family members. So we went from a business that you couldn't book with us
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unless you book like three, four weeks in advance with a minimum of 10 people.
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Our model now is like, you can, you, we had to adjust it to book with as little as four.
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And it just completely decimated the revenue numbers, the booking numbers.
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It never went back to what it used to. It never went back.
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We got hit hard with inflation. We were sorry. We got hit hard with COVID. We recovered.
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Then we got hit hard, even harder with inflation and things just got progressively worse. And I was
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like, man, we are just getting kicked in the teeth over and over again. I'm like, I'm not staying
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silent anymore. And now that I have this audience, people need to know what the government is responsible
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for. Uh, this is just what, what is happening makes absolutely no sense. And that's when I started
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really just ramping things up. And so the sentiment was always there. The audience was not, I was never
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intending to be any sort of a social media, you know, person at all, um, or a personality. I have no
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interest in monetizing it. It's not a thing that I ever aspire to. I don't care about the fame. I don't
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care about any of that stuff. It was really just about to get the message out. And what I was saying really
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resonated with a lot of people. And so that, that, that's basically where I am today.
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So at the, at the sort of depth of both COVID, the restrictions, I mean, it's, it's incredible.
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The government forced you to shut down your business and yet, you know, all that they were
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there to offer was alone. Um, like just curious, did you consider leaving the country? And if, if,
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Uh, and, and in all, and in all fairness and in full transparency, they gave me 20 grand as a grant.
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Um, uh, and so I got a $60,000 loan, but if I paid it by this amount, they'd give me 20 grand for free.
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That did nothing that covered rent for maybe like a handful of locations, maybe it was completely,
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um, immaterial and inconsequential to the total operations and the amount of people that I
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actually employed, um, and the total overhead that I had. And so it was a huge, uh, amount of
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government overreach and not enough, um, support, uh, and not enough, uh, science-based, uh, data at
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that time, you know, um, we, we didn't consider leaving, to be honest. It, it wasn't a thought that
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crossed my mind. Um, and my wife and I had had that discussion a long time ago and our, our, you
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know, basically where we ended up is our family's here. Like we're happy here and we're gonna, we're gonna
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make this thing work. And so we, it was never really something that crossed my mind to be honest.
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Well, if you can survive as a small business owner under, uh, Justin Trudeau, I suppose you
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could survive just about anything. Uh, Mario, I want to talk about the news, uh, a story of another,
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uh, TikTok influencer, although I think that she probably has the exact opposite motives that you do.
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I think all she wants is, um, fame and fortune talking about Rachel Gilmore. And so we covered
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this on the show last week. She got hired by CTV to do a fact second, uh, fact checking segment.
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And I mean, to me, this is just the most farcical thing imaginable. Like Rachel Gilmore is a meme of
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herself. She is always pushing whatever the most extreme version of the narrative is. She tries to fact
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check others while basically all she's doing is pushing her own far left agenda and really like
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no matter what issue it is, you can count on Rachel Gilmore to take the most extreme far left view.
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And so it was a little surprising for some of us to see that she'd been brought on by CTV, which is,
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you know, as mainstream media as you can get, especially given that, you know, maybe, maybe during
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election, you might want to have a bit of balance and not bring on the most extreme left winger
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in journalism. So it didn't really surprise me that she was, um, out of a job. Uh, we learned this
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last night that Rachel Gilmore, her segment was canceled amid backlash. She blamed the conservative
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party. Um, here is a video that she uploaded, um, to TikTok yesterday talking about how she said that
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she was bullied out of a job by the far right. Let's play that clip.
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This is why I get harassed so badly because they know that it'll work. If you see someone reporting
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on far right, on threats to democracy, on the rights of trans people, and you bully everyone
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who gives them a career opportunity, anytime they achieve anything, and then those career opportunities
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get taken away, you're going to realize that it works. And now because CTV just caved to this
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pressure for no other reason than the backlash that these guys intentionally inflicted on me,
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they're going to know that they can do it again. This is a direct attack on journalism,
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on the freedom of the press. And frankly, it really, really is crushing for me.
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Gosh, you almost feel sorry for her. If you forget all of the context about all of the nasty things
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she said about unvaccinated people or people who don't want boys playing in girl sports,
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or, I mean, any number of issues, but, uh, what do you, what do you make of this whole controversy,
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Yeah, honestly, I, I had no idea who she was a couple of months ago, um, at all. And, um,
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I had been tagged in a video where someone was, and there's always going to be, you know,
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similar, what I believe are far left extremists calling me out for disinformation,
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but they never tell you what the disinformation is or what they'll do is they'll take a small
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clipping of a larger context of what you're talking about. And then this is how evil Mario is. And this
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is the disinformation he's talking about. But when it comes to having a direct debate, they could never
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hold up in having that. And they would never actually engage in that kind of a conversation.
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Now she was encouraging people to do that about me. And that's the first time I'd ever heard her.
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I was like, who the heck is this Rachel Gilmore girl? When I opened up my ex account, um, I was
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like, man, a lot of people really don't like her. I'm like, I wonder what's up with this girl.
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And, um, I saw something that she had posted. I honestly can't remember what it was,
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but I fact checked her. And, um, it, the, the, I guess there, you know, there's the whole ratioing,
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like when people really like your comment more than the original post itself, it becomes very,
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uh, I would say emotional for the person who actually posted it. And I believe that's
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how my first engagement started with her. And, um, she then decided to make a video, uh, about me.
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And everyone knows anyone, whoever follows me knows that I was always, um, a Trump fan before the
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terrorists. And that's important to mention because, you know, while I like a lot of his policies and I
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like that he's putting America first, I don't like what he's doing to Canada whatsoever. As soon as
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that happened, any, you know, sort of mentioned, cause I used to say, you know, I'm the Maple Maga.
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This is the, and this was like a common theme that people said before she weaponized that and did that
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post tariffs. And that's a, that's a very important distinction to make because, you know, everyone's
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very sensitive and rightfully so about, you know, being a 50 face free 54 stater. And this guy's a
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traitor, this, that, and the other, but that wasn't the case at all. And I've always said,
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I'm always Canada first. She weaponized that asked her followers to basically, Hey guys,
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this is the business he owns, but I got to tell you, you know, don't harass his employees
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and, you know, make sure you don't, um, you know, uh, because we're not that type of people,
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let's not do anything bad. And it's kind of like, you know, she, she's basically doing enough to send
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a message to her followers. And they did, they left dozens and dozens of negative reviews on bad
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acts throwing in my Canadian locations. One of those businesses, which is in Windsor isn't owned
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by me that is owned by a small business owner who franch who basically franchises or licenses it from
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me. They're calling me in a panic, emailing me being like, Mario, what the heck is going on?
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What do we do with all these? Anyways, long story short, all the negative reviews are gone,
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but someone like Rachel, as you mentioned, I truly believe will always take the furthest
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left extreme of any position. She, and I learned this word on an X where people describe her as a
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cry bully. And the clip I believe is very representative of that where, Oh, I'm a victim.
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How dare they do this? You know, people, you know, this is how you target, you know, this is unfair to
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women, met people of color, you know, this, that, and it's like, don't give me that.
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Like, do not give me any of that. I have zero pity for you. I now understand why there's such
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a great deal of people who dislike you to the point that CTV felt the pressure. This isn't a
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Pierre Polyev attack. This isn't something coming from Pierre being like, we need to get her off on TV.
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That is the perfect example of who she is and what she represents when she twists the narrative.
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And I mean, I'm not going to disclose some of the other messages I've gotten from other people
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that have accused her of much worse things, much, much worse things of people who have lost their
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jobs. And so, you know, I can't verify, I can't validate it. I'm not going to get involved in it,
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but I mean, it's not very good. Yeah. I mean, my experiences with her are sort of similar.
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I agree. She's kind of a bully. Like it's funny that she wraps herself in a cloak of defending the
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marginalized and women and things like that, because her favorite line of attack against me,
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Mario has nothing to do with me whatsoever. She likes to go after my husband who has a
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successful career in tech. And she's decided that him and his colleagues are like the Canadian
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version of Elon Musk. And so when she's talking about me, she did like a 12 part TikTok series
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about me and about him too. And it's like, she doesn't even refer to me as me. She just calls me
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my husband's wife, like so-and-so's wife, like treating me like I'm just, you know, some
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bored housewife who's turning on social media. And then I don't really have like a career
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unto myself or an identity unto myself, which I, I always found was a little bit amusing,
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but in her defense, I almost think that she's an example of somebody who just believes the
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narrative on absolutely everything. Like when I hear Justin Trudeau speak, I think he is just
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so full of BS and so full of nonsense and everything he says, like he's a pathological liar.
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And I think that probably most people watching the show right now have a similar view of Trudeau and
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the liberals and everything they've been saying even pre COVID, but let's just start during COVID,
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like the total nonsensical like panic that they said that we were all going to die. And that if
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you left your home, you were going to kill grandma and all that kind of stuff right through to the
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COVID vaccine, right through to the trucker convoy. Those people are Nazis and they're funded by Trump
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and they're funded by Russians. Like every nonsensical insane story that Justin Trudeau would push.
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It's like Rachel Gilmore falls for it hook, line and sinker. And then she becomes the enforcer and
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saying, anyone who disagrees with me, I'm going to go after and I'm going to expose just how insane
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and radical they are. And then she gets to sort of have this valor, like she's the good guy and she's
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on a crusade against misinformation and disinformation, which is why it was just so
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interesting. I think ironic that CDB hired her for this role because she's become so notorious.
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And like you said, so hated. Anytime she's posting on social media, the comments are just
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absolutely pillying her and it's embarrassing for her. And so the fact that CTV brought her on,
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it just shows it total out of touch. Like they actually think that she's good at what she does.
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And it wasn't until they put her on this platform and got all the feedback. And I don't think it was,
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I think you're right. I don't think Pierre Polyev even knows who she is. Like, I don't think it was,
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it was feedback from the top. It was just the Canadian public are like, stop, this person is not
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legitimate. They're not, they don't have credibility. They're, they're totally non-serious
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person. And then CTV realized like, oh, okay, maybe it's us that's out of touch. Maybe we're the ones
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that are too extreme on the left. And all these people that we like to smear as being far right
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and radical, those are actually just normal everyday Canadians. And it's our views, my views and your
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views, Mario. Like we're just sort of like normal suburban parents trying to get by in Canada.
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And they paint us as if we're some kind of like a nefarious force. What do you think?
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Well, and sorry, I was just going to actually quickly add to your point, like my understanding,
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and again, I didn't know this until I joined X, but my understanding is she got sued and so did CBC
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because I believe she mislabeled someone as a white supremacist. I think his last name is something Abbott,
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um, who is, uh, I think a protest or something, but apparently they had to settle out of court.
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And that's what my understanding is of it. And so, you know, when, and when those facts
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are there and how can you have, you know, and the question has to be, is how can you have someone
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like that as a fact checker, um, who has basically, um, been in a position with a large broadcaster,
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uh, mainstream media and absolutely mislabeled someone. And so, you know, you have, you know,
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situations like this, that just kind of just, that doesn't make much sense to me. And so I, I really do
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believe that CTV, uh, listen to people. And I think the approach that she took, she couldn't have
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gone about it in a much worse way. And, you know, for someone, I just want to jump in there. Sorry to
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interrupt there, Mario, but she did share an audio recording. So I guess she recorded the conversation
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where she got fired. And of course, because everything she does, she does it for clicks.
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So she uploaded this, uh, let's, uh, play this clip and hear what that sounded like.
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I have to say, I, I knew that, that you had that troll base and I knew that you would get,
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you know, some sort of reaction, but I really did not realize the extent of the volume of that
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pushback that we've had. My goal as the EP for the show is I just want to do election coverage.
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Yeah. Just, you know, it's a critical election for Canadians. We've got Trump, we've got tariffs,
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we've got crazy amounts of information coming in and we just want to be able to get back to people.
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But the, who we're talking to is kind of drowning out the, what we're talking about right now.
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Um, and I don't feel like we have the bandwidth to deal with it. So, uh, I, I feel terrible about
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doing this, but I'm just going to call down the segment that we were planning to do with you.
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Cause I just don't think we have the bandwidth to be able to keep the focus where we need to.
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I don't know about you, Mario. I don't know if you've ever been fired from a job,
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but I don't understand the impulse to record like probably a personally devastating conversation
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and then instantly put it out, I guess, to get sympathy. I don't quite understand why. Maybe this
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is like a trend, uh, online that people like to record themselves getting fired and then share it
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to get sympathy. Um, what do you, what do you make of that?
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Honestly, when you're trying to make your career as a social media person, you're trying to be
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this credible person as a journalist. You, um, have been given this opportunity.
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There's more elegant ways of parting ways. And this I believe is the absolute worst thing you
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could possibly do. Like, I don't understand how it makes any sort of sense. Imagine,
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and it's no different than an NBA player. If an NBA player says, you know, uh, F this team,
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F the coach, F these people, and you're a problem. No, one's going to want you. It doesn't like your
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talent level is not going to matter. And so imagine when that talent level just isn't even there.
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Like, what do you think is then going to happen to you? Like you think other NBA teams are going
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to come pick you up that this is no different. Like this is the highest stage that you have.
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You have CTV of CBC, you know, you have a very few handful of media companies and you just
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permanently burn that bridge. Uh, I, I just, I really don't understand it. And I, I truly believe
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it's exactly what you mentioned. It is about the clicks. It's about getting the pity. It's about,
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and I don't know. I, I just, the views, I, I, I, I can't make any sense of it. I would never
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in a million years do anything like this. And to me, this just makes absolutely no sense.
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And it was honestly, it was just for lack of a better. I thought it was pathetic.