Juno News - April 02, 2025


Woke TikTok journalist gets FIRED from CTV


Episode Stats

Length

24 minutes

Words per Minute

199.012

Word Count

4,794

Sentence Count

295

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Mark Carney. Trudeau's money man. Globalist. China's pal. Weeks in, he jets to Beijing.
00:00:09.660 Scores a $250 million loan from their state bank. 11 MPs tied to Beijing. Carney's crew
00:00:19.880 says nothing. Selling us out. Foreign cash. Secret deals. Carney's Canada.
00:00:30.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great show for you today
00:00:37.680 and you might notice I'm in a different studio than normal. Well, my family and I recently
00:00:43.140 purchased an acreage in rural Ontario and we are here at the farm. I'm so excited.
00:00:49.160 I have my four kids out with us. We're going to have such an adventure out here.
00:00:53.320 And originally I was going to buy a new studio to match the studio that I have in my other house.
00:00:58.420 So I was going to buy the same bookcases and the same plants and the same backdrop.
00:01:03.280 But then the original farmhouse here has this beautiful wooden office. I kind of feel like I'm
00:01:08.720 at Tucker Carlson's studio, like in the woods in Maine. And I just thought it was so beautiful.
00:01:13.860 So I decided to stick with it. I know it's a little dark in here. I'm going to be buying
00:01:17.880 better lighting and I'm going to improve the whole setup in here. But I'm super excited and I hope
00:01:22.640 maybe I'll even start having people in studio and doing interviews in here because it's a really
00:01:26.640 beautiful space. I'm really excited for today's show. I'm joined by a new guest that I've never
00:01:31.540 had on the program before. His name is Mario Zalaya. He's a political commentator and a businessman.
00:01:38.260 And if you're anything like me, you see Mario's videos all over social media. All of a sudden,
00:01:43.260 I just started seeing them pop up on X all the time, going through the news stories,
00:01:47.400 pointing out the facts, giving us a fact-based analysis. I love it. And so I wanted to have Mario
00:01:52.260 to join us on the show today. So Mario, great to have you today.
00:01:55.800 Yeah. Thanks very much for having me on, Candice.
00:01:57.860 So tell us about yourself, Mario. How did you become this sort of viral political
00:02:02.160 sensation in Canada? I think you're on TikTok. Is that right?
00:02:06.300 Yeah. So I started in TikTok about maybe two years ago. And funny enough, originally it started
00:02:12.080 and the way my account, my original account, and I'll explain in a second, my original account
00:02:16.380 blew up because, uh, I had, uh, a bad experience with an old, uh, Tesla model S I had bought in 2013,
00:02:23.760 long story short. Um, the way it was designed, uh, the AC condensate was leaking water on top of the
00:02:30.460 battery battery died. There was literally, so basically water was leaking on, on top of the
00:02:35.800 battery battery died. Tesla had a notification. I only got a notification of high voltage that
00:02:42.040 basically that means it couldn't blow up. Uh, I took it to them. Um, they wouldn't warranty it.
00:02:47.380 Um, and it was a $29,000 bill that went like mega viral, like 19 million views plus covered by
00:02:54.700 almost every major news station, uh, I think in the world. And it would be, it became a huge thing.
00:03:00.700 And my account really exploded. And I honestly, I just started posting about business and stuff in
00:03:05.320 general. And I started seeing, um, I, I started realizing politics was affecting more of my life
00:03:13.440 than I ever thought imaginable. And I was never into politics at all. I never followed it. And it was
00:03:18.920 literally about a year and a half ago that I really started commenting on it. And people are like,
00:03:23.700 you're uncovering a lot of stuff and you're giving us a different perspective. And as time went on,
00:03:28.520 you start kind of connecting the dots. And that's all I really like to do is I like to really take up,
00:03:34.240 look up news articles and connect a dot with something else that might've happened before
00:03:39.220 with something else that might've happened before, which something else that maybe wasn't covered.
00:03:44.140 And that that's ultimately all I'm doing. And I'm presenting it to people in a way where they can
00:03:48.300 digest it. And so, you know, the, the common feedback I've had from people is they really
00:03:52.860 liked that approach and people who don't even care about politics. They never cared about it before.
00:03:56.520 Um, I've been to, you know, one of my kids plays basketball. Uh, I've had kids that he plays
00:04:02.200 against with asking me for pictures. Like these are, you know, 11 year old kids who recognize me,
00:04:07.420 who want to take pictures and they see my videos all the time on Tik TOK. And, um, just because I,
00:04:12.600 I own a lot of businesses, I'm very busy. I don't really have time to do this. Like I do this only
00:04:18.080 when I have spare time. Um, and I tried doing it as, um, punctually as possible in a, sorry,
00:04:26.440 in a succinct manner, uh, as much as possible. And, uh, it was only really until I think I've
00:04:32.600 only been on X and Instagram for about four months and both accounts are going quite rapidly.
00:04:38.240 Um, and I'm, I'm just continuing what I'm doing. And a lot of it, a lot of it has to do because
00:04:43.160 my staff member is actually helping me post, um, videos that maybe I've posted before that are still
00:04:48.340 relevant today, but it was really his idea to say, you know what, Mario, like, like, let me just
00:04:52.620 repost this stuff for you. Cause I told him I just don't have time. And so now that I create a video,
00:04:57.660 I have a good system of, uh, how to upload it and kind of grow these other accounts and get people
00:05:01.980 more aware of what's happening in our country. Well, I absolutely love your videos. I think
00:05:06.060 you're so good at getting to the bottom of things and pointing out what the key part of a story is
00:05:11.340 that maybe the media is missing or the political class is missing. And sometimes it takes an outsider's
00:05:15.740 perspective, or if I could ask, what is it that got you into politics? Like what happened a year and a
00:05:20.780 half ago that sort of flipped the switch that made you start thinking about this stuff?
00:05:25.100 Uh, I mean, I don't know if there was anything, well, I would say that the major thing that really
00:05:31.660 irritated me, um, uh, to no end, and I don't think I'll still forgive the government was the vaccines.
00:05:38.940 Like my wife and I were never going to get it. Um, and it was this, uh, coercion that was done
00:05:45.180 on people like myself, um, who didn't want it, but we couldn't travel anywhere. We couldn't do anything
00:05:50.940 and we're bottled up. We can't go to transportation. You couldn't go to a food court and sit down and
00:05:54.780 eat your food with a special class of people. If you didn't have a vaccine and you know,
00:06:00.060 there wasn't really much to do. We couldn't leave the country. We couldn't do much. And
00:06:03.180 you know, we're, we're debating, you know, should we, should we not do it? You know, the,
00:06:06.220 the numbers look safe. It looks okay to the state. It's one of the biggest regrets we have.
00:06:09.740 That was one of the big steps. And that obviously was more than a year and a half ago. And, you
00:06:14.540 know, during that time period, I mean, I had a extremely successful business. Uh, it's called
00:06:18.780 Bad Axe Throwing. Uh, I think a lot of people would recognize it. Like if people know what axe
00:06:23.500 throwing is modern day wise, you probably know because of me, if you've ever seen it on TV,
00:06:28.700 that's one of my other companies that I own, which is called the World Axe Throwing. I had to deal with,
00:06:32.220 uh, ESPN, uh, which then televised it on TSN. So if you ever see any sort of axe
00:06:36.380 throwing championship competitions, that's one of the other companies that I own.
00:06:39.900 While that company, you know, uh, is still doing quite well and bad axe throwing is as well.
00:06:44.700 Um, you know, back then we were just crushing it. Um, and you know, the, the big comparisons,
00:06:50.300 like from the U S to Canada was just completely night and day. And it was purely political.
00:06:54.540 The U S was like, you know what? We asked you to close down. We're really going to support you.
00:06:59.100 Um, I got in the U S for, for my U S uh, operations of the business. And I've never said this publicly,
00:07:04.460 but I got nearly a million dollars from the government as a grant. Like the, the, the,
00:07:09.980 this is, this is to maintain my operations, to keep people on payroll, to pay for my rent
00:07:15.660 because they, uh, they forced me to shut down. Canada gave us a $40,000 loan. And my operations
00:07:21.660 weren't that much different in Canada than they were in the U S except we were shut down for two
00:07:26.700 to three times longer in Canada. Uh, Ontario, most people don't realize, and I know this because
00:07:32.940 I was in the most scrutinized shutdown industry in the world. I was an indoor recreation
00:07:40.700 entertainment or, you know, don't go into those indoor places. You know, you're, you're going to get
00:07:44.780 COVID or what are the sanitation's limits on it? Oh, you know, you can't do that. You should only go
00:07:49.660 out in groups with your own family members. So we went from a business that you couldn't book with us
00:07:55.820 unless you book like three, four weeks in advance with a minimum of 10 people.
00:07:59.900 Our model now is like, you can, you, we had to adjust it to book with as little as four.
00:08:05.260 And it just completely decimated the revenue numbers, the booking numbers.
00:08:09.660 It never went back to what it used to. It never went back.
00:08:13.340 We got hit hard with inflation. We were sorry. We got hit hard with COVID. We recovered.
00:08:17.660 Then we got hit hard, even harder with inflation and things just got progressively worse. And I was
00:08:23.500 like, man, we are just getting kicked in the teeth over and over again. I'm like, I'm not staying
00:08:28.300 silent anymore. And now that I have this audience, people need to know what the government is responsible
00:08:34.460 for. Uh, this is just what, what is happening makes absolutely no sense. And that's when I started
00:08:41.100 really just ramping things up. And so the sentiment was always there. The audience was not, I was never
00:08:48.780 intending to be any sort of a social media, you know, person at all, um, or a personality. I have no
00:08:54.380 interest in monetizing it. It's not a thing that I ever aspire to. I don't care about the fame. I don't
00:08:59.180 care about any of that stuff. It was really just about to get the message out. And what I was saying really
00:09:04.380 resonated with a lot of people. And so that, that, that's basically where I am today.
00:09:09.180 So at the, at the sort of depth of both COVID, the restrictions, I mean, it's, it's incredible.
00:09:14.860 The government forced you to shut down your business and yet, you know, all that they were
00:09:18.940 there to offer was alone. Um, like just curious, did you consider leaving the country? And if, if,
00:09:25.900 if you did, uh, why didn't you go?
00:09:27.660 Uh, and, and in all, and in all fairness and in full transparency, they gave me 20 grand as a grant.
00:09:33.820 Um, uh, and so I got a $60,000 loan, but if I paid it by this amount, they'd give me 20 grand for free.
00:09:39.740 That did nothing that covered rent for maybe like a handful of locations, maybe it was completely,
00:09:46.700 um, immaterial and inconsequential to the total operations and the amount of people that I
00:09:51.420 actually employed, um, and the total overhead that I had. And so it was a huge, uh, amount of
00:09:57.260 government overreach and not enough, um, support, uh, and not enough, uh, science-based, uh, data at
00:10:03.820 that time, you know, um, we, we didn't consider leaving, to be honest. It, it wasn't a thought that
00:10:09.100 crossed my mind. Um, and my wife and I had had that discussion a long time ago and our, our, you
00:10:14.940 know, basically where we ended up is our family's here. Like we're happy here and we're gonna, we're gonna
00:10:21.740 make this thing work. And so we, it was never really something that crossed my mind to be honest.
00:10:27.580 Well, if you can survive as a small business owner under, uh, Justin Trudeau, I suppose you
00:10:31.660 could survive just about anything. Uh, Mario, I want to talk about the news, uh, a story of another,
00:10:37.500 uh, TikTok influencer, although I think that she probably has the exact opposite motives that you do.
00:10:42.380 I think all she wants is, um, fame and fortune talking about Rachel Gilmore. And so we covered
00:10:47.580 this on the show last week. She got hired by CTV to do a fact second, uh, fact checking segment.
00:10:54.300 And I mean, to me, this is just the most farcical thing imaginable. Like Rachel Gilmore is a meme of
00:11:01.100 herself. She is always pushing whatever the most extreme version of the narrative is. She tries to fact
00:11:08.460 check others while basically all she's doing is pushing her own far left agenda and really like
00:11:15.020 no matter what issue it is, you can count on Rachel Gilmore to take the most extreme far left view.
00:11:23.020 And so it was a little surprising for some of us to see that she'd been brought on by CTV, which is,
00:11:28.060 you know, as mainstream media as you can get, especially given that, you know, maybe, maybe during
00:11:33.500 election, you might want to have a bit of balance and not bring on the most extreme left winger
00:11:38.380 in journalism. So it didn't really surprise me that she was, um, out of a job. Uh, we learned this
00:11:45.820 last night that Rachel Gilmore, her segment was canceled amid backlash. She blamed the conservative
00:11:51.900 party. Um, here is a video that she uploaded, um, to TikTok yesterday talking about how she said that
00:11:58.220 she was bullied out of a job by the far right. Let's play that clip.
00:12:03.020 This is why I get harassed so badly because they know that it'll work. If you see someone reporting
00:12:09.020 on far right, on threats to democracy, on the rights of trans people, and you bully everyone
00:12:14.780 who gives them a career opportunity, anytime they achieve anything, and then those career opportunities
00:12:20.460 get taken away, you're going to realize that it works. And now because CTV just caved to this
00:12:26.620 pressure for no other reason than the backlash that these guys intentionally inflicted on me,
00:12:33.020 they're going to know that they can do it again. This is a direct attack on journalism,
00:12:37.500 on the freedom of the press. And frankly, it really, really is crushing for me.
00:12:43.420 Gosh, you almost feel sorry for her. If you forget all of the context about all of the nasty things
00:12:50.060 she said about unvaccinated people or people who don't want boys playing in girl sports,
00:12:55.260 or, I mean, any number of issues, but, uh, what do you, what do you make of this whole controversy,
00:12:59.180 Mario?
00:12:59.580 Yeah, honestly, I, I had no idea who she was a couple of months ago, um, at all. And, um,
00:13:05.500 I had been tagged in a video where someone was, and there's always going to be, you know,
00:13:10.060 similar, what I believe are far left extremists calling me out for disinformation,
00:13:14.540 but they never tell you what the disinformation is or what they'll do is they'll take a small
00:13:18.140 clipping of a larger context of what you're talking about. And then this is how evil Mario is. And this
00:13:23.180 is the disinformation he's talking about. But when it comes to having a direct debate, they could never
00:13:27.660 hold up in having that. And they would never actually engage in that kind of a conversation.
00:13:32.380 Now she was encouraging people to do that about me. And that's the first time I'd ever heard her.
00:13:36.380 I was like, who the heck is this Rachel Gilmore girl? When I opened up my ex account, um, I was
00:13:41.420 like, man, a lot of people really don't like her. I'm like, I wonder what's up with this girl.
00:13:47.100 And, um, I saw something that she had posted. I honestly can't remember what it was,
00:13:51.100 but I fact checked her. And, um, it, the, the, I guess there, you know, there's the whole ratioing,
00:13:57.100 like when people really like your comment more than the original post itself, it becomes very,
00:14:02.540 uh, I would say emotional for the person who actually posted it. And I believe that's
00:14:07.740 how my first engagement started with her. And, um, she then decided to make a video, uh, about me.
00:14:15.100 And everyone knows anyone, whoever follows me knows that I was always, um, a Trump fan before the
00:14:22.700 terrorists. And that's important to mention because, you know, while I like a lot of his policies and I
00:14:30.060 like that he's putting America first, I don't like what he's doing to Canada whatsoever. As soon as
00:14:35.660 that happened, any, you know, sort of mentioned, cause I used to say, you know, I'm the Maple Maga.
00:14:39.660 This is the, and this was like a common theme that people said before she weaponized that and did that
00:14:45.580 post tariffs. And that's a, that's a very important distinction to make because, you know, everyone's
00:14:50.540 very sensitive and rightfully so about, you know, being a 50 face free 54 stater. And this guy's a
00:14:55.260 traitor, this, that, and the other, but that wasn't the case at all. And I've always said,
00:14:58.620 I'm always Canada first. She weaponized that asked her followers to basically, Hey guys,
00:15:03.580 this is the business he owns, but I got to tell you, you know, don't harass his employees
00:15:08.860 and, you know, make sure you don't, um, you know, uh, because we're not that type of people,
00:15:13.980 let's not do anything bad. And it's kind of like, you know, she, she's basically doing enough to send
00:15:19.740 a message to her followers. And they did, they left dozens and dozens of negative reviews on bad
00:15:25.180 acts throwing in my Canadian locations. One of those businesses, which is in Windsor isn't owned
00:15:30.940 by me that is owned by a small business owner who franch who basically franchises or licenses it from
00:15:36.220 me. They're calling me in a panic, emailing me being like, Mario, what the heck is going on?
00:15:40.300 What do we do with all these? Anyways, long story short, all the negative reviews are gone,
00:15:44.140 but someone like Rachel, as you mentioned, I truly believe will always take the furthest
00:15:51.500 left extreme of any position. She, and I learned this word on an X where people describe her as a
00:15:58.780 cry bully. And the clip I believe is very representative of that where, Oh, I'm a victim.
00:16:05.740 How dare they do this? You know, people, you know, this is how you target, you know, this is unfair to
00:16:10.460 women, met people of color, you know, this, that, and it's like, don't give me that.
00:16:14.700 Like, do not give me any of that. I have zero pity for you. I now understand why there's such
00:16:19.900 a great deal of people who dislike you to the point that CTV felt the pressure. This isn't a
00:16:25.420 Pierre Polyev attack. This isn't something coming from Pierre being like, we need to get her off on TV.
00:16:31.500 That is the perfect example of who she is and what she represents when she twists the narrative.
00:16:38.780 And I mean, I'm not going to disclose some of the other messages I've gotten from other people
00:16:42.940 that have accused her of much worse things, much, much worse things of people who have lost their
00:16:47.340 jobs. And so, you know, I can't verify, I can't validate it. I'm not going to get involved in it,
00:16:52.380 but I mean, it's not very good. Yeah. I mean, my experiences with her are sort of similar.
00:16:57.500 I agree. She's kind of a bully. Like it's funny that she wraps herself in a cloak of defending the
00:17:02.860 marginalized and women and things like that, because her favorite line of attack against me,
00:17:07.180 Mario has nothing to do with me whatsoever. She likes to go after my husband who has a
00:17:11.820 successful career in tech. And she's decided that him and his colleagues are like the Canadian
00:17:16.380 version of Elon Musk. And so when she's talking about me, she did like a 12 part TikTok series
00:17:21.660 about me and about him too. And it's like, she doesn't even refer to me as me. She just calls me
00:17:27.580 my husband's wife, like so-and-so's wife, like treating me like I'm just, you know, some
00:17:31.100 bored housewife who's turning on social media. And then I don't really have like a career
00:17:36.140 unto myself or an identity unto myself, which I, I always found was a little bit amusing,
00:17:40.540 but in her defense, I almost think that she's an example of somebody who just believes the
00:17:46.460 narrative on absolutely everything. Like when I hear Justin Trudeau speak, I think he is just
00:17:51.500 so full of BS and so full of nonsense and everything he says, like he's a pathological liar.
00:17:56.780 And I think that probably most people watching the show right now have a similar view of Trudeau and
00:18:02.860 the liberals and everything they've been saying even pre COVID, but let's just start during COVID,
00:18:07.900 like the total nonsensical like panic that they said that we were all going to die. And that if
00:18:14.460 you left your home, you were going to kill grandma and all that kind of stuff right through to the
00:18:18.860 COVID vaccine, right through to the trucker convoy. Those people are Nazis and they're funded by Trump
00:18:23.180 and they're funded by Russians. Like every nonsensical insane story that Justin Trudeau would push.
00:18:29.100 It's like Rachel Gilmore falls for it hook, line and sinker. And then she becomes the enforcer and
00:18:34.300 saying, anyone who disagrees with me, I'm going to go after and I'm going to expose just how insane
00:18:40.300 and radical they are. And then she gets to sort of have this valor, like she's the good guy and she's
00:18:45.100 on a crusade against misinformation and disinformation, which is why it was just so
00:18:49.420 interesting. I think ironic that CDB hired her for this role because she's become so notorious.
00:18:53.980 And like you said, so hated. Anytime she's posting on social media, the comments are just
00:18:58.700 absolutely pillying her and it's embarrassing for her. And so the fact that CTV brought her on,
00:19:04.540 it just shows it total out of touch. Like they actually think that she's good at what she does.
00:19:09.100 And it wasn't until they put her on this platform and got all the feedback. And I don't think it was,
00:19:12.700 I think you're right. I don't think Pierre Polyev even knows who she is. Like, I don't think it was,
00:19:16.300 it was feedback from the top. It was just the Canadian public are like, stop, this person is not
00:19:21.420 legitimate. They're not, they don't have credibility. They're, they're totally non-serious
00:19:24.940 person. And then CTV realized like, oh, okay, maybe it's us that's out of touch. Maybe we're the ones
00:19:30.060 that are too extreme on the left. And all these people that we like to smear as being far right
00:19:34.140 and radical, those are actually just normal everyday Canadians. And it's our views, my views and your
00:19:38.940 views, Mario. Like we're just sort of like normal suburban parents trying to get by in Canada.
00:19:45.020 And they paint us as if we're some kind of like a nefarious force. What do you think?
00:19:48.940 Well, and sorry, I was just going to actually quickly add to your point, like my understanding,
00:19:54.060 and again, I didn't know this until I joined X, but my understanding is she got sued and so did CBC
00:20:00.700 because I believe she mislabeled someone as a white supremacist. I think his last name is something Abbott,
00:20:07.500 um, who is, uh, I think a protest or something, but apparently they had to settle out of court.
00:20:13.500 And that's what my understanding is of it. And so, you know, when, and when those facts
00:20:18.780 are there and how can you have, you know, and the question has to be, is how can you have someone
00:20:24.940 like that as a fact checker, um, who has basically, um, been in a position with a large broadcaster,
00:20:32.940 uh, mainstream media and absolutely mislabeled someone. And so, you know, you have, you know,
00:20:38.060 situations like this, that just kind of just, that doesn't make much sense to me. And so I, I really do
00:20:43.660 believe that CTV, uh, listen to people. And I think the approach that she took, she couldn't have
00:20:50.060 gone about it in a much worse way. And, you know, for someone, I just want to jump in there. Sorry to
00:20:55.820 interrupt there, Mario, but she did share an audio recording. So I guess she recorded the conversation
00:21:01.100 where she got fired. And of course, because everything she does, she does it for clicks.
00:21:05.340 So she uploaded this, uh, let's, uh, play this clip and hear what that sounded like.
00:21:09.020 I have to say, I, I knew that, that you had that troll base and I knew that you would get,
00:21:15.340 you know, some sort of reaction, but I really did not realize the extent of the volume of that
00:21:21.740 pushback that we've had. My goal as the EP for the show is I just want to do election coverage.
00:21:26.300 Yeah. Just, you know, it's a critical election for Canadians. We've got Trump, we've got tariffs,
00:21:31.340 we've got crazy amounts of information coming in and we just want to be able to get back to people.
00:21:36.540 But the, who we're talking to is kind of drowning out the, what we're talking about right now.
00:21:44.620 Um, and I don't feel like we have the bandwidth to deal with it. So, uh, I, I feel terrible about
00:21:51.660 doing this, but I'm just going to call down the segment that we were planning to do with you.
00:21:56.220 Cause I just don't think we have the bandwidth to be able to keep the focus where we need to.
00:22:00.700 I don't know about you, Mario. I don't know if you've ever been fired from a job,
00:22:05.660 but I don't understand the impulse to record like probably a personally devastating conversation
00:22:11.100 and then instantly put it out, I guess, to get sympathy. I don't quite understand why. Maybe this
00:22:16.460 is like a trend, uh, online that people like to record themselves getting fired and then share it
00:22:21.180 to get sympathy. Um, what do you, what do you make of that?
00:22:23.340 Honestly, when you're trying to make your career as a social media person, you're trying to be
00:22:32.140 this credible person as a journalist. You, um, have been given this opportunity.
00:22:40.140 There's more elegant ways of parting ways. And this I believe is the absolute worst thing you
00:22:46.540 could possibly do. Like, I don't understand how it makes any sort of sense. Imagine,
00:22:50.620 and it's no different than an NBA player. If an NBA player says, you know, uh, F this team,
00:22:55.660 F the coach, F these people, and you're a problem. No, one's going to want you. It doesn't like your
00:23:00.300 talent level is not going to matter. And so imagine when that talent level just isn't even there.
00:23:05.740 Like, what do you think is then going to happen to you? Like you think other NBA teams are going
00:23:09.340 to come pick you up that this is no different. Like this is the highest stage that you have.
00:23:14.460 You have CTV of CBC, you know, you have a very few handful of media companies and you just
00:23:20.780 permanently burn that bridge. Uh, I, I just, I really don't understand it. And I, I truly believe
00:23:26.700 it's exactly what you mentioned. It is about the clicks. It's about getting the pity. It's about,
00:23:32.300 and I don't know. I, I just, the views, I, I, I, I can't make any sense of it. I would never
00:23:37.100 in a million years do anything like this. And to me, this just makes absolutely no sense.
00:23:41.980 And it was honestly, it was just for lack of a better. I thought it was pathetic.
00:23:53.100 it's cool.
00:24:02.780 And, but sure.
00:24:04.780 So