Juno News - World leaders fear-monger over climate change while ignoring the real issues

00:00:00.040 World leaders are recklessly fear-mongering and promoting doomsday scenarios when it comes to climate change.

00:00:06.200 Meanwhile, they are ignoring the real issues that affect real people around the world.

00:00:10.040 I'm Candace Malcolm and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.

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00:00:41.540 So it is a lot of fun. Right now, all the world leaders are gathered in Scotland.

00:00:45.920 They are at COP26, which is the United Nations conference to look into the environment, to study what's going on with climate change.

00:00:53.740 But really what we just see is a lot of fear-mongering, a lot of over-the-top doomsday scenarios that really just create a lot of fear and anxiety around the world.

00:01:03.620 So we're going to delve into that.

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00:01:35.680 All right, today I am joined by my friend Anthony Fury.

00:01:38.820 Anthony is the editor over at The Toronto Sun, and he sometimes contributes here at True North as well.

00:01:44.940 Anthony, thank you so much for joining the show.

00:01:47.520 Good to be here.

00:01:48.360 Okay, so I want to first talk a little bit about this whole extravaganza going on in Scotland right now with COP26.

00:01:56.540 So Justin Trudeau has spent the last couple days on the world stage, virtue signaling, lecturing everybody about climate change,

00:02:02.280 even at the G20 meeting, you know, they had the G20 meeting in Rome, and then the next day they were all flying to Scotland.

00:02:07.860 So you'd think the G20 meeting, they would focus on, you know, economic issues, world finances, global financial stability,

00:02:13.920 the looming threat of inflation and hyperinflation.

00:02:16.880 But instead, Trudeau said that his top priority at the G20 meeting was climate change,

00:02:22.340 even though the very next day he had this whole 10-day conference dedicated entirely to climate change.

00:02:28.100 So why do you think Justin Trudeau is so fixated on climate change?

00:02:32.660 And do you think that he is aware of all the other sort of pending economic crises that are happening in Canada and around the world?

00:02:39.860 Well, one thing I've come to learn about Justin Trudeau, he's not a prime minister who happens to also have a great interest in green issues.

00:02:47.420 He's an environmental activist who just happens to be prime minister.

00:02:51.420 And that's been driven home more so by the fact that Stephen Goulbeau has been made environment minister in Canada.

00:02:56.500 And, you know, whenever Trudeau is giving some sort of speech, whether it's just out on the campaign or formal speech,

00:03:01.780 like the throne speech or something adjacent to that, he'll say the things we need, the direction we need Canada to head in.

00:03:07.900 And he'll use these buzzwords, you know, fairer, more equitable, whatever phrases he likes.

00:03:11.300 But usually the first word is always greener.

00:03:14.580 That's in everything when he does the tally of the future of Canada or what our key priorities are.

00:03:19.640 So this is just the way the guy rolls.

00:03:22.180 This is like the thing that he thinks about when he goes to bed at night, when he wakes up in the morning.

00:03:26.560 And I did see a funny tweet, someone talking about what's going on at COP26.

00:03:30.340 And they were like, hold on a second.

00:03:31.720 Isn't this just like one of those academic conferences where you go once a year and you see the same people

00:03:36.420 and you all talk about the same things.

00:03:37.880 It's just an opportunity to, like, gather and have drinks.

00:03:40.380 And I had to chuckle because, you know, in every sort of realm, that person, I guess, referenced their academic specialty.

00:03:45.580 But, you know, I know what it's like.

00:03:46.660 There's these annual conferences that I go to and I only see people really once a year there.

00:03:51.720 Maybe they live in Vancouver, Calgary, and I get to meet them once or twice at these events.

00:03:55.160 And I kind of thought, thinking of the Trudeau COP26 thing, I was like, oh, how cute.

00:03:58.800 This isn't actually a serious event.

00:04:00.920 This is just like, you know, bring the gang back together, you know, have some beers and so forth.

00:04:05.540 Let's see our old friends in the, like, international eco circuit.

00:04:09.080 And they say all these things.

00:04:10.280 Trudeau's saying this thing about phasing up the oil stands or whatever.

00:04:13.240 And I'm kind of like, let's just stop taking them seriously.

00:04:15.560 Like, I don't take the Paris deal climate agreements too seriously.

00:04:18.620 I know a lot of people do.

00:04:19.400 I know the government acts like these voluntary targets that we have created ourselves, that it's like a gun to our head that we have to do ASAP.

00:04:28.660 But I'm just kind of like, I think this is just a lark for these guys.

00:04:31.420 This is their social circuit.

00:04:33.100 They've just fallen into it.

00:04:34.200 They haven't matured out of it.

00:04:35.420 And, you know, let them have their fun and let's not take it seriously.

00:04:38.720 So I totally agree that, like, with the idea of what it's like for them.

00:04:43.740 The only problem, Anthony, is that unlike, you know, the kind of conferences that we go to or unlike the, you know,

00:04:49.400 the chumminess that Justin Trudeau may crave, the reality is that these governments are going to be signing really heavy-handed laws and rules at this conference.

00:04:59.940 These are the people who run the world.

00:05:01.300 Yeah, these are the people.

00:05:01.940 And it will have devastating impacts on everyday people, on Canadians.

00:05:05.340 We already saw that Trudeau has formally pledged to a cap, hard cap on oil and gas.

00:05:09.840 And, you know, that will have, you know, an unbelievable effect on the livelihoods of thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of Canadians because of that.

00:05:19.260 So Trudeau acts like this, like, you know, it's a party for him.

00:05:22.520 And that's sort of the idea that we see coming back home.

00:05:25.980 Unfortunately, you know, they also have a lot of power, which is pretty, pretty, pretty devastating.

00:05:31.720 So what do you think about that hard cap to Canada's oil and gas emissions?

00:05:37.980 It's crazy.

00:05:38.840 It's not necessary.

00:05:40.840 Look, when I look at what's going on in renewable energy in the green sector, there's a whole lot of big companies, serious companies, very, you know, credentialed individuals who are putting a lot of their own money.

00:05:52.740 They're putting R&D into going in this new direction.

00:05:55.620 They're getting venture capital and so forth.

00:05:57.440 I'm like, that's cool.

00:05:58.280 I'm all in support of innovation and human industriousness.

00:06:01.320 And I think it's clear there's some sort of green revolution on the horizon and it's going to happen.

00:06:06.000 And I think it's going to happen in this kind of natural segue that happens holistically with the economy.

00:06:13.880 Whatever the government does is just going to actually get in the way of that.

00:06:18.300 I mean, I know an example of a manufacturing firm in the east end of Toronto that they've come up with this new process.

00:06:24.440 I won't bore you with the details, but it's actually kind of like a green enviro thing.

00:06:29.180 They're doing it both because they found it just sort of saves them on outputs and inputs and so forth.

00:06:33.800 It's just more efficient.

00:06:34.920 It happens to be environmentally friendly as well.

00:06:36.580 It saves the money.

00:06:37.260 They're going in that direction.

00:06:38.780 But because of the Ontario government bringing in all of these green energy policies that have ramped up the cost for manufacturing, it's putting them out of business.

00:06:45.980 And because they're not a company that's like with the in crowd over at COP26, they're not giving the government handouts.

00:06:52.080 So here you have a company that's doing some pretty cool enviro stuff that is benefiting the environment.

00:06:57.440 And they're actually getting screwed over by green energy policy.

00:07:01.060 So, I mean, as I say, this stuff is happening organically anyway.

00:07:05.300 It's extremely just arrogant and incorrect of the government to think that they can get in front of that, that they can harness it, that they know it better than the people who are actually doing it on the ground.

00:07:15.240 We just need to step away from it all.

00:07:17.020 Like I said, the Paris deal, I don't think we particularly need to be in it.

00:07:21.060 I mean, I wish I liken the Paris deal to when you see these various presentations.

00:07:26.640 Say at City Hall, they say Toronto right now, they say zero vision.

00:07:30.240 That's the thing they're doing at Toronto.

00:07:31.300 Zero vision means zero pedestrian deaths because there's been too many pedestrian deaths.

00:07:35.680 I obviously support that.

00:07:37.560 But when they say it, it's an aspirational goal.

00:07:40.440 They say zero homelessness, for instance.

00:07:42.680 I mean, there's obviously never going to be time when there's zero homelessness.

00:07:45.140 I have no problem with the politicians saying we commit to zero homelessness because it's an aspirational goal.

00:07:50.640 And we all kind of know that.

00:07:52.860 But when Trudeau is actually seeing zero emissions or what have you, he doesn't realize that that's an aspirational goal.

00:08:00.500 He takes himself too seriously.

00:08:02.800 So you're totally right that these are the people controlling the world in our lives.

00:08:06.320 So me saying laugh them off, it's not that easy.

00:08:08.860 But I think laughing them off kind of maybe helps us get to that more balanced perspective that we need to be at.

00:08:16.100 Yeah, I completely agree with that.

00:08:17.280 I have much more faith in the sort of Elon Musks of the world, the actual people who are brilliant in their field, innovators, very, very driven towards a goal, almost singularly focused versus someone like Justin Trudeau, who I agree that it's like the number one issue that he talks about and cares about.

00:08:32.800 But it still strikes me, Anthony, as so inauthentic when he's out there talking about it.

00:08:37.460 I don't actually think he cares about the issue.

00:08:39.240 I mean, I just think that Justin Trudeau happens to be one of the most insincere people out there.

00:08:43.560 So I think he loves to talk about it.

00:08:45.620 He thinks that it's trendy.

00:08:46.540 Like, remember a couple of years ago, we met with Greta and it was so awkward because she was lecturing him and he was just kind of there for the photo op and he was really proud of himself for being so cool that this like angry teenage environmentalist would even sit with him.

00:08:58.320 And it was just it was kind of sad.

00:09:00.340 But I think that Trudeau really puts it on and really just likes to be the virtue signaler.

00:09:05.020 He wants to be known as the world's biggest feminist, as the most sort of eco green leader. 0.99

00:09:10.360 But really, he doesn't even put his money where his mouth is because Canada doesn't even meet its targets.

00:09:14.920 We're not even on track to meet Paris.

00:09:16.460 We missed our 2020 emissions despite the global lockdown.

00:09:20.960 So, yeah, I don't I don't trust or believe anything.

00:09:24.680 But it's not just Justin Trudeau, Anthony.

00:09:27.140 We saw Boris Johnson describing global warming as a doomsday device that will end humanity.

00:09:34.300 The United Nations Secretary General said that humans are digging our own graves.

00:09:40.360 So what do you think about this over the top rhetoric that's really just designed to sort of like cripple us and still fear?

00:09:47.360 You know, they tried to persuade us.

00:09:49.440 It didn't really work.

00:09:50.340 So now they're like, OK, let's just try to like promote fear and anxiety.

00:09:53.760 It's having a really big impact, as we know, on little kids that are now taught in school that the world's going to end because of all of our activity.

00:10:01.020 Really, really kind of reckless way of talking about it.

00:10:03.160 What do you think about this over the top rhetoric?

00:10:06.060 Yeah, you're right, particularly in the school system and it's happening there.

00:10:08.900 And it's really alarming because I actually saw one report by a psychologist association a couple of years ago talking about how climate change anxiety is actually a real thing.

00:10:18.760 So children are having mental health challenges because of all this stuff they're hearing, staying awake at night and, you know, thinking they're going to die, whatever timeline Greta gave them in the next five years or something.

00:10:28.300 So lots of challenges with the education system and parents need to get involved.

00:10:32.580 And that's one of those things that they need to fight back against.

00:10:36.080 Another thing on the rhetoric, I don't know if you saw this, one of the CBC executive editors put out a post the other week saying, guys, big news.

00:10:42.340 I'll tell you, editorial changes come to the CBC.

00:10:46.100 We're finally going to start talking about climate change.

00:10:50.520 And he posted this just the other week and I read this article.

00:10:54.100 I'm like, man, this is something he's like, for too long, we have downplayed the issue.

00:10:58.120 We've ignored the issue of climate.

00:10:59.900 CBC reporting is finally going to go all in on, well, it's not climate change, of course.

00:11:04.500 I think it was maybe the climate crisis was the phrase they used, perhaps climate apocalypse.

00:11:09.660 I'm not sure what new word they used.

00:11:11.600 And it was quite something like this idea.

00:11:14.040 Finally, we're going to get serious on it.

00:11:16.120 And there's such an accelerationist attitude to it.

00:11:20.280 I mean, Trudeau as well, we're talking about this long frame issue.

00:11:23.240 And then almost every year now, he has to up the ante so much.

00:11:26.480 And it's funny to see CBC basically do the same.

00:11:29.660 Now we're going to talk about climate change crazier than ever.

00:11:32.640 And I think it's going to backfire.

00:11:35.320 Who knows?

00:11:36.220 Who knows the direction public opinion is going to take on it.

00:11:38.720 But I think you can really go overboard with this stuff, particularly now that we definitely

00:11:43.000 have a crisis of cost of living going in in Canada, that while there's many different

00:11:47.260 factors in play at it, green energy policies have certainly exacerbated cost of living

00:11:51.940 challenges in Canada.

00:11:53.220 That's a really good point.

00:11:54.340 I can't imagine having less self-awareness than the editors and the head honchos over at

00:12:00.820 the CBC.

00:12:01.460 It's like they just have no idea how they're perceived.

00:12:04.280 And again, this whole idea that this is a crisis, it's an ongoing crisis.

00:12:10.460 We heard Trudeau talk about this a lot, the dual crises of COVID and climate.

00:12:14.760 It's like they just love being in a crisis scenario.

00:12:18.060 And I'm old enough to remember like four years ago when it was the left that was constantly

00:12:23.100 criticizing and critiquing and screaming at the right for saying you guys are reckless,

00:12:28.360 you're promoting fear mongering about issues like terrorism and immigration.

00:12:31.860 And then here we are where that's just like the regular thing that they do is promote

00:12:36.680 fear and anxiety.

00:12:38.140 I want to switch a little bit over to COVID though, because that is the other area where

00:12:41.760 we see a lot of fear mongering, a lot of misinformation.

00:12:45.020 You know, they target kids with climate alarmism.

00:12:47.540 Now they're starting to target kids with this idea that there needs to be forced vaccination

00:12:51.900 for little kids age five to 11.

00:12:55.420 Hi, you have a couple of kids in that age group.

00:12:57.180 I wrote a column in the Toronto Sun over the weekend talking about how little this group

00:13:02.560 is impacted by COVID, how few cases are, despite how they have the most number of cases, well

00:13:08.380 under 20 has the most number of cases in Canada, recorded cases.

00:13:12.300 So kids are contracting COVID, but they're not getting sick, they're not getting hospitalized

00:13:16.840 and so few are dying of COVID that it's barely even, you know, it's less than a statistical

00:13:23.220 error.

00:13:24.360 So why is it that we're now focused so much on vaccinating a group of people that have

00:13:30.080 no threat of COVID?

00:13:32.100 Yeah, I spoke to the president and CEO of Sick Kids Hospital earlier last year, and he

00:13:36.640 said that if there can be a silver lining to this pandemic, to COVID-19, if there is such

00:13:40.880 a thing, it would be that thankfully we've learned that COVID-19 does not hit kids hard

00:13:45.540 really at all.

00:13:46.960 There is a worry initially that this would be something that hits kids very hard, and we've

00:13:50.920 learned that that's not the case.

00:13:52.040 And a number of very prominent pediatricians have said to me flat out that COVID-19 is

00:13:56.300 less severe than influenza in children.

00:13:59.560 So a lot of the debate we're having right now is whether or not it's ethical to lock

00:14:04.500 children down, to deny them of their education rights, to deny them of activities and so forth,

00:14:09.640 and also to say that they must get this vaccine to protect other age cohorts.

00:14:14.860 And that's quite a debate going on right now, because traditionally that's not a thing that

00:14:19.780 really happens in medical ethics and discussions of public health.

00:14:23.780 I seem to recall that the rule in the Titanic was not, okay, children off last, so we can

00:14:28.780 get the strapping middle-aged men on the rescue boats first, yet that seems to be the attitude

00:14:34.180 that we're taking with COVID.

00:14:35.680 So it's very frustrating.

00:14:36.860 I do think the conversation about the 5 to 11 vaccines has had a lot more nuanced approach

00:14:43.240 than previous chapters of this discussion.

00:14:48.140 A little bit in Canada.

00:14:49.800 Canada has always had a very kind of regressive and cloistered conversation.

00:14:54.440 I think we're pretty ignorant of what goes on in the rest of the world.

00:14:56.860 But I think if you look to the New York Times, the Washington Post, Newsweek magazine, just

00:15:01.980 pretty much name every major publication in the US, they are having much more nuanced

00:15:06.560 discussions of 5 to 11.

00:15:08.560 There'll be articles with the headlines, do teenagers even really need to get the vaccine,

00:15:12.600 that kind of stuff, which would be considered a major no-go, I think, for a lot of Canadians,

00:15:17.800 or at least just out of their frame of reference.

00:15:19.540 They're not used to seeing that conversation in our media landscape or political landscape.

00:15:23.380 Yeah, I was surprised when I just went and looked at the numbers myself because, you

00:15:29.060 know, judging by the way that I see, like you're saying, you know, there's not a lot

00:15:32.480 of nuance in the media.

00:15:33.360 So judging by the way that I see the issue talked about in the media, by the way I hear

00:15:37.120 politicians promoting, you know, excitingly waiting and anticipating the approval of vaccines

00:15:43.700 for 5 to 11-year-olds and sort of like, we're going to be ready to go, we're going to roll

00:15:46.800 it out.

00:15:47.700 You know, it seems like the question is settled and they're going to go ahead and do

00:15:53.320 it.

00:15:53.660 But, you know, again, like to your point, like why would we try to vaccinate kids when

00:16:00.660 we know that, you know, in very, very small, rare circumstances, there are negative side

00:16:04.520 effects.

00:16:05.000 So you're, whereas when it comes to COVID, there aren't really any.

00:16:08.520 I mean, you pointed out to me that, you know, I had in my column that there were 1,700

00:16:12.720 hospitalizations in that age group below 20.

00:16:16.460 And you pointed out in your reporting that most of those cases were not kids who were

00:16:21.320 hospitalized because of COVID, but rather kids that had to go to the hospital for another

00:16:25.560 reason.

00:16:26.340 Well, they were there, they got tested and they had contracted COVID perhaps even in

00:16:30.000 the hospital.

00:16:30.400 I don't know.

00:16:31.600 But it just doesn't really make a lot of sense why we would even vaccinate this group

00:16:37.100 in the first place.

00:16:38.580 What do you think about that?

00:16:39.560 Yeah, one of the things that I've talked about in a few True North videos is what frustrates

00:16:43.240 me is the media amplification game and the news that gets amplified and then the news

00:16:47.440 that that atrophies, that doesn't catch on and get picked up by all of their news outlets.

00:16:52.420 And I thought that Public Health Agency of Canada report on nosocomial pediatric infections

00:16:57.460 is the term, is the focus of the report was very interesting because it looked at all the

00:17:04.180 cases.

00:17:04.460 It took numbers from hospitals all across the country and found that, okay, these are

00:17:08.560 the kids hospitalized with COVID, but then they said, what is the cause of admission?

00:17:12.960 Why were they hospitalized in the first place?

00:17:15.220 And only 37% of them were actually hospitalized because they were suffering from COVID-19 symptoms

00:17:22.200 or, you know, what have you.

00:17:23.880 And the rest were incidental findings.

00:17:26.240 So of course, right now you need to get tested for COVID whenever you go to hospital.

00:17:30.040 So these kids went in for, say, a broken arm and then they just tested positive for asymptomatic

00:17:35.460 COVID.

00:17:36.300 And that was included, is included in our national statistics for a kid being hospitalized with

00:17:42.860 COVID.

00:17:43.340 So you always have to take the numbers out there and cut it at least in half.

00:17:47.560 And that's the factual data that Public Health is putting out there.

00:17:51.280 And that's also anecdotally what pediatric hospital physicians have told me.

00:17:55.580 So that is the established fact.

00:17:57.760 And yet I'm sure if I were to go on certain news outlets, which haven't been discussed

00:18:01.640 in this much, if I were to go on, you know, CBC national television and bring this up, there'd

00:18:05.940 probably be people tweeting in or get this guy off the air, misinformation and so forth.

00:18:10.440 It's data.

00:18:11.920 It's public data.

00:18:12.700 They wrote a report on it.

00:18:14.080 Right.

00:18:14.260 It's the science as well, but it's not the science that they like.

00:18:16.900 And so they try to beat you over the head with it.

00:18:19.080 Well, Anthony, thank you so much for bringing some common sense.

00:18:21.480 I wish that there were more journalists out in Canada like you that were willing to talk

00:18:25.480 about these, you know, inconvenient findings and sometimes challenge the narrative.

00:18:30.100 It's great to have you on the show.

00:18:31.680 Well, same to you.

00:18:32.180 Thanks, Candice.

00:18:32.920 All right.

00:18:33.280 Thanks so much for watching.

00:18:34.100 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

Juno News - November 02, 2021

World leaders fear-monger over climate change while ignoring the real issues

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