Juno News - March 15, 2024


Wow： the CBC finally gets it RIGHT in exposing the dangers of transitioning minors


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36 minutes

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6,689

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410

Misogynist Sentences

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00:00:00.000 So two weeks after the CBC in Quebec released a documentary exposing the chilling effects
00:00:05.080 of rapid onset gender dysphoria onto young girls, trans activists and trans activist
00:00:09.820 journalists are still up in arms and they're still spreading lies about the harms of these
00:00:14.240 radical procedures. It's Fake News Friday. I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm
00:00:18.160 Show. Hi everybody. Thank you so much for tuning into the program. Don't forget to like this
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00:00:45.940 so that you never miss any of our articles or any of our episodes. Okay, so welcome to
00:00:50.800 Fake News Friday. This is our favorite show around here at True North. So thank you so
00:00:54.740 much for tuning in. Last week on the program, we talked about the critics of this Radio Canada
00:01:00.740 documentary called Trans Express, namely Rachel Gilmore, who basically tried to own the CBC
00:01:06.600 and failed spectacularly. You should go check out that episode because we went through in
00:01:10.960 great detail and debunked the many, many things that she tried to say about the documentary
00:01:15.220 that were simply just not accurate. I told you on that episode that I would do a future
00:01:19.800 episode breaking down the documentary because it is in French. It's a longer documentary. It's an
00:01:25.040 hour long. And I think it's worthwhile that everybody knows what's in this documentary. Even
00:01:29.460 if you don't want to go and watch an hour-long documentary in French with English subtitles or
00:01:34.520 you know, like me, if you have sort of basic bad French that you learned back in high school
00:01:40.020 and you, you know, trying to translate it, it might be easier for you to just hear from me. I can,
00:01:45.560 I'm going to go through and break down every single thing that happened in the documentary. And I
00:01:52.240 really do think that every Canadian should watch that. Now, before I get into it, I want to point
00:01:58.000 out the irony of me focusing a Fake News Friday episode on actually highlighting and applauding and
00:02:03.360 congratulating CBC journalists because I don't think that's ever happened in the history of this show.
00:02:07.700 I don't think I've ever done an episode where I actually praise CBC, but credit where credit is
00:02:12.120 due. They really did a tremendous job with this documentary. And I'll just, again, put that little
00:02:17.000 caveat that this is the French version of CBC, which is kind of different. It's quite different
00:02:21.800 than the English version of it. It's interesting because even when Pierre Pauly of the Conservative
00:02:26.760 Leader talks about defunding the CBC, he doesn't want to defund Radio Canada. Radio Canada is different.
00:02:32.720 It has a different flavor. It's still more mainstream in Quebec and it's not as ideological
00:02:37.520 or radically left or partisan, as is English counterpart. Now, don't mistake this for an
00:02:43.900 endorsement of the CBC. I still believe the CBC is terrible and that it deserves to be wholly
00:02:49.640 defunded. And in case you needed any more convincing, there was a story that did break
00:02:53.880 earlier this week that I'm going to quickly highlight. So on Tuesday, we learned that the
00:02:58.800 CBC paid $15 million in bonuses in 2023, this despite mass layoffs that happened at that company.
00:03:06.840 So they dished out $14.9 million in bonuses despite laying off hundreds, hundreds of journalists
00:03:12.500 right around Christmas time. According to documents received by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation,
00:03:16.820 the CBC distributed bonuses to 1,143 of its senior staff members back in October. And these numbers
00:03:24.120 only count up to October. They haven't had the data yet from December or November. So expect that
00:03:30.020 figure to potentially rise even higher once those Christmas bonuses are counted. CBC gave 87% of its
00:03:37.580 workforce a pay increase in 2023-2024 fiscal year, amounting to about $11.5 million in increased pay.
00:03:47.140 This is partially probably because the Trudeau government negotiated such a great deal for the CBC with Google,
00:03:53.560 the Online News Act, decided that Google would be giving the Canadian government $100 million,
00:03:58.360 and then the Trudeau government would get to dole that out. However, the main beneficiary
00:04:02.200 of that Online News Act's $100 million from Google will go to the CBC. And the CBC will also receive,
00:04:09.900 on top of that, an additional $90 million from the Trudeau government in your taxes, in my tax dollars,
00:04:15.940 adding up to a total government funding of $1.4 billion. So this is a state arm. This is Trudeau's
00:04:23.500 media arm of the government. This is state propaganda, $1.4 billion. And yet, despite
00:04:29.980 receiving $1.4 million from the taxpayer to do shoddy, bad journalism, that wasn't enough. Here
00:04:37.260 we had the CBC CEO, Catherine Tate, speaking in front of the Heritage Committee in January,
00:04:43.720 complaining about the CBC's budget, spreading misinformation and lies by saying the CBC is
00:04:49.920 facing budget cuts. And here she is just generally being totally useless and totally entitled. Let's
00:04:55.400 play that clip. Each year with cuts to our budget. Unlike the private sector, we cannot manage
00:05:01.980 fluctuations through loans or bridge financing. We must balance our budget each and every year.
00:05:08.520 Over the three years of the pandemic, as revenues plummeted, most media companies had to lay off
00:05:14.320 staff. We shifted resources to maintain services and to protect jobs. And we benefited from $21 million
00:05:22.120 in additional government funding for each of the past three years. But today, our ability to shift
00:05:29.320 resources and find savings is no longer sufficient to meet the growing deficit.
00:05:34.260 So she's complaining about having to balance her budget every year, something that every small
00:05:39.220 business in Canada, every household in Canada has to do every year. Like, oh, I'm so hard done by,
00:05:45.000 I have to balance my own budget. Complaining about cuts that don't exist. We know that the CBC gets
00:05:51.340 more money every single year. Just, you know, really just a clueless person there trying to play the
00:05:56.340 victim when really we all know that she is not, she is the villain. Just, you know, we know that CBC,
00:06:02.580 these are not the good guys. And to add insults to injury, it's not like they're even doing real
00:06:07.420 journalism. They're not doing good journalism. It's not like the CBC is there providing this,
00:06:11.400 you know, amazing service to all Canadians and informing us about the news. That's not what we
00:06:16.820 get from the CBC. We get a fringe, far left, conspiratorial, authoritarian, flat out, agenda
00:06:24.020 driven, often vindictive, often bigoted, very partisan media outlet. So no, don't trust the CBC
00:06:30.060 and don't take this episode to be any kind of an endorsement for the CBC. The CBC is terrible
00:06:34.900 and we all know it and I hope it dies as soon as possible. All that being said, I do want to
00:06:40.040 spend the show talking about Trans Express, the documentary which was aired on the investigative
00:06:44.420 journalism program known as Enquête. It was 45 minutes. It was an hour long with television
00:06:49.860 commercials, but the raw documentary which you can see on YouTube is 45 minutes. Like I said,
00:06:55.700 it's in the French language. It does an excellent job chronicling the process of medical transition
00:07:00.520 among minors in Quebec. But it also does important investigative journalism, something that no other
00:07:07.000 outlet in Canada has done. They sent a 14-year-old actress into a clinic and she was able to get a
00:07:12.580 prescription for puberty blockers in less than 20 minutes. The first time she had ever seen a doctor
00:07:17.800 walked in, told him a story. Less than 20 minutes later, she was able to get a prescription
00:07:22.900 to fundamentally begin altering her gender through medical transitioning. So it was really
00:07:28.960 quite something. So unlike many of the radical trans activists who are criticizing the documentary,
00:07:35.860 I actually spent the time to watch it and I'm going to do my best to walk you through it right now. So
00:07:40.660 first I'm going to do that. I'm going to walk you through the documentary. There were five subjects
00:07:44.680 of the story, five women who were sort of featured throughout the documentary. And then there were also
00:07:49.920 additional researchers, doctors, therapists, different kind of researchers and experts and
00:07:56.160 specialists showing both sides of the story. So I'm going to walk you through the research
00:08:00.020 and what we learned. And then finally, I'm going to talk a little bit about the reaction
00:08:04.340 from the trans activists. And the journalists themselves went on to a popular Quebec talk show
00:08:10.240 over the weekend called Le Toute de Monde in Parle. And they basically explained who they are,
00:08:15.660 why they made this documentary. So we will get to that at the very end of the episode. So
00:08:19.380 let's get going. The documentary starts by telling us about the purpose, which is to expose a process
00:08:25.020 of so-called gender affirming care, which as I've talked about in the past is really just a
00:08:29.920 euphemism for sex change operations, sex change procedures, including drugs and surgery that they
00:08:35.400 prescribe to gender dysphoric youth. So the documentary explains it specifically focuses on girls and
00:08:42.680 how the medical system, both the public system and the private system, because remember, we're talking
00:08:46.620 about Quebec. Quebec has a private system for healthcare, unlike the rest of Canadians who are
00:08:51.460 stuck with only government healthcare. But anyway, both the public and the private and through
00:08:56.040 medication and surgeries, how this allows adolescents to make irreversible changes. So that's what the
00:09:01.760 documentary itself says. They do this by following four teenage girls, all with pre-existing medical
00:09:08.260 medical conditions and mental illnesses, and how they were basically lured into an unnecessary medical
00:09:13.800 intervention transitioning. Three of the four girls ended up detransitioning. Well, sorry, two of the
00:09:21.140 four girls ended up detransitioning. One of them basically stops at the last minute and doesn't get the
00:09:26.760 transition. The documentary interviews the four girls, their parents, several doctors, and then we also hear
00:09:33.080 from researchers and activists. There's a great deal of research in the documentary, including
00:09:39.480 highlighting studies, statistics, comparing treatments between what's happening in Quebec with other
00:09:44.200 advanced Western countries, namely Scandinavia, but also the United States. I just want to note that the
00:09:50.840 documentary is not one-sided. It's not something that, it doesn't look like something that we would have
00:09:56.360 produced here at True North. It doesn't look like Matt Walsh's What is a Woman. It's done by the CBC.
00:10:02.040 It presents both sides. It's very neutral. It's very balanced. It's very fair. Probably spends equal
00:10:07.960 time explaining why these transitionings are good and why the transitioning is bad. And I think that
00:10:14.040 that's part of it that's really telling, the fact that the trans activists are so mad that this exists,
00:10:19.560 even though half of the documentary is explaining their perspective and promoting their views. They don't
00:10:26.120 like the fact that there's even half of a documentary devoted to pointing out the other side of the
00:10:31.320 story. And so I think that tells you a lot about the people who are critical of this documentary.
00:10:37.400 Okay. So let's go through it. So the first person that we meet is a young lady named Clara. Clara is
00:10:42.280 a pseudonym and she is now 24 years old. We heard that she struggled with her mental illness from the
00:10:47.400 age of eight. She was very anxious, very awkward, especially during puberty. She became very self-critical.
00:10:53.720 She unfortunately, sadly tried to commit suicide, tried to kill herself in 2015. And shortly after
00:11:00.440 that suicide attempt, she saw a video on the internet, which made her think that she had found
00:11:04.360 the source of all her problems. She decided that she didn't fit into either gender, but she definitely
00:11:08.760 did not want to be a girl anymore. Her mom quickly affirmed what she was going through and found a
00:11:14.440 psychologist that specialized in gender dysphoria. So at the age of 15, Clara became a patient and she was
00:11:20.360 quickly prescribed puberty blockers. A few months later, she started the next phase, which was
00:11:25.160 testosterone. And she noticed that her voice became much deeper and she started to grow more hair. She
00:11:29.880 noticed that her body was changing, but that did not make her happier. She didn't feel happier.
00:11:34.920 Nothing changed with her mood and she still wanted to commit suicide. We later learned that after four
00:11:39.800 months on the drug, Clara was hospitalized again for a suicide attempt. It was at that point that the
00:11:45.320 doctors began to question her initial diagnosis of gender dysphoria and the doctors at the hospital
00:11:50.520 that she went to made some recommendations. They recommended that she quickly, immediately stop
00:11:54.920 taking testosterone and that she found a new therapist because they considered the therapist
00:11:59.640 that was kind of leading her down the path of transitioning wasn't doing her job and that she
00:12:04.600 needed to find a new therapist. Well, Clara ignored both those recommendations. She went straight back home
00:12:09.800 after leaving the hospital to talk to her gender-affirming therapist again, and she continued to take the
00:12:15.080 testosterone. Clara said that she was 100% passing for a teenage boy at this point. She was wearing
00:12:20.600 binders over her breasts, which basically tape down your chest so that it doesn't look like you have
00:12:26.360 any breasts. She said that those were very uncomfortable. For that reason, she decided to
00:12:30.200 move forward with the surgery and she did go ahead and receive a double mastectomy. This is at age 17,
00:12:37.800 after being on drugs for two and a half years. We then heard from her parents who said it was almost the
00:12:43.320 next day, maybe a day or two later, that we all saw that she had made a mistake. Clara came back
00:12:48.040 and said, even though I had my breasts removed, I still felt like I had women's breasts and I
00:12:52.680 couldn't look at the mirror. I avoided looking at myself in the mirror. And then by the age of 20,
00:12:58.440 she was completely done with the whole trans thing. She started wearing a wig and got breast implants
00:13:03.400 so that she would look more like a woman. So by the age of 20, she was back to wanting to be a woman.
00:13:09.080 So that's the story of the first person, Clara. Let's move on to the second subject is a woman
00:13:14.520 named Jane. So we meet Jane. We learned that she had always been a tomboy and she always felt a little
00:13:19.800 bit more masculine. She said that she was watching a live stream of a trans person who had come out
00:13:25.240 to their family and everybody was so happy and so proud. And it made her feel really good for that
00:13:31.240 person that she was watching to be trans. Sadly, we learned with this case, with this woman,
00:13:36.600 Jane, that she was raped in 2020 and that she was dealing with the trauma of that rape as a teenager.
00:13:43.320 She said that she kept thinking that if she was a man, if she was a guy, she would have never been
00:13:47.320 raped. This would have never happened. She said she had a feeling of disgust about being a woman over
00:13:52.520 the event. She basically knew that she wanted to transition. She went to, she wanted trans,
00:13:57.880 she wanted testosterone. So she went to her family doctor, quickly received a referral,
00:14:02.040 went to a specialist at a clinic at the McGill University in Montreal. So this is at age 16.
00:14:07.400 After two consultations, she received her first prescription for puberty blockers in 2022.
00:14:12.920 And I'll, I'll show you this clip it's in French, but she is documenting her journey
00:14:17.640 and what it looked like, uh, as she transitioned from a girl to a boy. So you can just see how quickly,
00:14:23.320 you know, one month, two months, three months, four months, uh, she goes from looking feminine
00:14:27.320 and like a girl to having a deep voice and looking like a man. Let's play that clip.
00:14:42.040 So the documentary later tells us that one and a half years after her first dose, uh, Jane received
00:14:47.880 a double mastectomy, had both her breasts removed at the age of 18. I'll just add my own observations
00:14:54.280 to this subject, Jane here. She actually seemed like a pretty happy person. And I didn't think
00:14:58.360 that she was going to end up being a detransitioner the way that they showed her the way that they
00:15:01.960 showed her transition. She struck me as a very happy go lucky person. She didn't really seem
00:15:06.360 mentally ill, but she was dealing with the trauma of being raped as a teenager. I think she was 15 when
00:15:11.960 that happened. And so I didn't expect that later in the documentary, she would be one of the people
00:15:16.360 that came to regret her choices because in the clips that we saw, she actually seemed pretty happy.
00:15:21.640 But later in the documentary, as I say, we did learn that Jane also became a detransitioner. And
00:15:27.000 at the end of the documentary, we're told that like Clara, Jane realized shortly after her double
00:15:31.960 mastectomy surgeries, that she had made a huge mistake. She said this regrets came weeks later
00:15:36.840 when the bandages came off and I saw my new body. She did not like what she saw. And she immediately
00:15:42.200 wrote to her surgeon asking if she could be reconstructed. Now, this is the incredibly ironic
00:15:47.480 part of the documentary of her story. Because as soon as Jane said that she didn't like what she
00:15:52.440 had done, she made a mistake and she wanted to detransition. What was she told? She was told
00:15:57.800 that she would have to wait. She was told that she needed a psychiatric assessment that would last for
00:16:03.560 more than a year. And she was told that the whole process would probably take her three years. So when
00:16:08.920 she wanted to transition, she had all of this support, she had all the resources, all this encouragement.
00:16:14.680 And then as soon as it was the other direction and she wanted to detransition, none of that existed.
00:16:19.080 She was told that she had to wait. She had to slow down, that she needed to see more
00:16:23.480 health professionals. And she was basically told just to wait. Her own surgeon told her that if it
00:16:30.120 had been her own child, she would have slowed down the process. She would have not wanted it to go as
00:16:35.480 quickly as it did for Jane, because children need to have a time to think. Imagine hearing that. Imagine
00:16:40.920 being a young woman who feels like you made a mistake. And then all of a sudden the professionals,
00:16:45.000 medical professionals around you, whom you trusted, told you that you had to wait and that you
00:16:51.320 probably did make a mistake. And if it was their own kids, they wouldn't have let them do that. It's
00:16:54.920 so harsh and so sad. Okay. Let's move on to our third subject. Here is a woman named Antony. And I
00:17:02.040 believe this is also a pseudonym. We never see this woman's face. Her story is told from the perspective of
00:17:07.560 her father and we also never see her father's face. So they've done this all anonymously. But basically,
00:17:14.280 here's a young woman who is suffering from mental illness. She was suffering from anorexia. She had just
00:17:18.920 spent two months in an eating disorder unit at the hospital. And while she was there in this eating
00:17:25.000 disorder unit at Saint-Justine Hospital in Montreal, she started speaking to a therapist and basically
00:17:32.520 talking about how the reason behind her anorexia was led, it led from unwanted changes in her body during
00:17:39.880 puberty. Specifically, she said that her breasts grew very large and she felt very uncomfortable. She was
00:17:44.680 basically trying to starve herself in order to hide her breasts because she didn't like having big breasts
00:17:50.280 more or less. So at this point, two different doctors begin offering her puberty blockers and began suggesting that she was
00:17:57.880 trans. Now, according to her father, the gender dysphoria was never formally evaluated. There was no
00:18:03.160 psychiatric assessment, no specialists. But nonetheless, several doctors started offering her these drugs
00:18:09.160 anyway. She was 16 years old. At the time, she was told that it was her decision and hers alone. And so
00:18:15.320 she decided that she did want to go on to puberty blockers and start transitioning. Her dad says that,
00:18:21.960 look, she had an eating disorder. She had very strong anxiety, depression, and suicidal ideation.
00:18:27.080 It's not clear how someone could consent to something like this. So the father was very upset
00:18:31.480 and he decided to intervene. He spoke to the doctor directly and eventually Lupron, the drug,
00:18:37.000 was ruled out. So Lupron is the puberty blockers. And the dad says that he was convinced that had he
00:18:42.440 not asked questions to the doctor, his daughter would have been put onto drugs and onto puberty blockers.
00:18:48.200 Now, eventually the daughter revealed that she really just didn't want her breasts anymore. She wanted to
00:18:52.920 have this double mastectomy surgery. And she learned online, heard online that that means that she must
00:18:58.040 have been trans. So at age 16, she could legally get a mastectomy without parental consent in Quebec.
00:19:04.920 And the father was very angry about this because he said the doctors who were saying this was okay,
00:19:10.040 didn't know her history, didn't know about her background and didn't really care. So the father was
00:19:15.320 up in arms and he decided to write a letter to the doctor and to the head of the hospital. He denounced the
00:19:20.760 haste to present medical treatment without verifying the condition. And we later learned
00:19:25.800 the dad says that he did hear back from the hospital. He wasn't expecting to hear anything
00:19:29.240 back, but the hospital did get back to him and just said that they agreed and that they were going to
00:19:35.400 change their practices. They would be profoundly modified and that there had been other similar
00:19:40.760 complaints in the hospital, including from another father who had a 13 year old girl who had a very
00:19:45.800 similar story and a very similar complaint. And so this is kind of a happy story. The dad intervened,
00:19:52.840 the dad spoke up, the dad said, this is not acceptable. And because of it, he saved his daughter
00:19:57.720 from doing something that she would very likely live to regret. So he said that he was very thankful
00:20:04.120 that he saved his daughter. He saved her from mutilating herself and she didn't have the need to
00:20:09.560 de-transition because she didn't do the surgeries in the first place. Okay. Now we have our fourth
00:20:15.960 and final subject, a girl named Ilios. And Ilios is the sort of one happy ending story, supposedly
00:20:21.880 a successful transition. So this individual transitioned. And as far as the documentary
00:20:26.520 is concerned, she remains to be happy and as a transitioned boy. So she began to transition,
00:20:33.320 pretend to be a boy at age 15, and this followed a suicide attempt in the same year. So the same year,
00:20:38.760 she tried to commit suicide. And then a few months later, she got the diagnosis of gender dysphoria,
00:20:44.520 began taking puberty blockers and testosterone. It's really interesting to see how many of these
00:20:49.400 stories are similar in that you have like a mentally unwell, a teenage girl who is then
00:20:56.280 led down this path. So she says that she started taking the drugs, the drugs made her feel
00:21:01.640 a little bit better, but it wasn't enough. I'm still not well, she said. And she knew that the solution
00:21:06.520 would be the double mastectomy. So at age 16, she went for that surgery. And she said,
00:21:13.000 when I saw the results, I cried so hard. They were tears of joy. I told my dad, this was the best
00:21:17.160 decision of my life. So this is the so-called success story. And just my observation is a little
00:21:22.840 sad. Just looking at this individual, she appears to be very fragile, very unwell. This doesn't appear to
00:21:30.040 be a happy, thriving, well-adjusted person. This appears to be a deeply confused and depressed young
00:21:36.040 lady who is clearly unwell. So again, those are just my observations, but this isn't exactly the
00:21:41.400 poster child of a successful medical treatment in my books. Okay. The fifth and final subject of the
00:21:47.640 documentary was that undercover actress that I told you about earlier. So Radio Canada has a 14 year old
00:21:54.680 actress going in, showing just how easy it is to get these drugs. And of course the CBC wouldn't be
00:22:00.840 the CBC if they didn't try to take a knock at private healthcare. So basically the premise here
00:22:05.400 is that if you're in the public system, you have to wait a long time, that there's wait lists somewhere
00:22:09.720 between eight months and a year, but there is an alternative. You can go to the private system.
00:22:14.520 You can go to a consultation for $115 out of pocket. And with that, you can very easily get a letter.
00:22:21.560 Everybody in these communities knows that there's a few doctors who will just
00:22:25.960 basically rubber stamp you, write you that letter, and then you'll be good to go to get your drugs and
00:22:33.480 start your transition. So we had the 14 year old girl that she, again, she just shows you the process.
00:22:38.840 She went to the doctor alone, told the doctor that she was trans. The receptionist made her read and
00:22:43.640 sign a seven page document that just described all the side effects. She kind of just breezed through it,
00:22:48.840 signed it, goes into the doctor's office, tells him a made up story. And basically there's not really
00:22:55.480 a lot to the meeting. Within five minutes, they're talking about surgery. The entire consultation
00:23:02.280 lasted less than 17 minutes. They did not talk about the side effects at all of taking testosterone.
00:23:07.640 They only did mention, the doctor did mention that she would not be able to have children
00:23:11.480 in the future. And there's a 14 year old girl. I don't know any 14 year old girl who can think that far
00:23:16.680 ahead to decide whether or not they want children at that age. But at the time, she just, you know,
00:23:21.240 shrugged it off, said, Yeah, that's fine. And just like that, she was given the green light to start a
00:23:26.680 chemical treatment towards self sterilization. So it is pretty unbelievable stuff. And again,
00:23:32.280 great research and great journalism from Radio Canada. Okay, so those are those are the stories.
00:23:38.200 The stories are very compelling. As you can see, there's sort of a trend within all of them. These are
00:23:42.600 young women who are very unwell who are suffering from other mental illnesses. And they kind of get
00:23:46.920 like sucked into this path where they are impacted by videos that they've seen online, by doctors
00:23:53.480 telling them that this is sort of like a silver bullet to solve all their problems. And with the
00:23:58.920 subjects that Radio Canada chose, obviously, it wasn't the right decision for them, as three out of the
00:24:03.880 four are not living as trans today. Okay, let's quickly go through the research here, the main person who
00:24:10.840 is quoted throughout the documentary is actually a pro transitioning professor and researcher named
00:24:16.760 Ali Poulin Saint-Siffran. And she is featured through the documentary presenting the pro trans
00:24:22.840 side of the argument. So anytime that they feature a doctor or researcher with an opposing position,
00:24:28.520 they always go back to Saint-Siffran, who gets an opportunity to refute whatever she just said,
00:24:33.800 whatever that other doctor just said. So she explains why Quebec does what it does. And it's basically based
00:24:38.760 on two theories that are stacked on top of each other. The first is called the Dutch protocol,
00:24:43.480 which basically says that gender must be affirmed. They basically took a lot of interviews from older
00:24:49.800 trans people who have transitioned. And those people said, look, my childhood was incredibly
00:24:54.520 difficult. And my life would have been a lot easier if I could have just transitioned as a child,
00:24:59.240 because then I would have never gone through puberty in the other direction that I didn't want to go
00:25:03.240 through puberty. And so that was sort of the basis behind the idea that they were going to start
00:25:07.960 treating children who mentioned that they might suffer from the same disorder. And so the protocol
00:25:14.040 basically includes three steps. So the first one is puberty blockers. So they stop puberty.
00:25:18.120 The second one is that they add hormone drugs on top of that. So if you're a girl transitioning to be a
00:25:22.600 boy, you start taking testosterone. And then the third is a surgery, the double mastectomy to remove the
00:25:28.600 breasts. The main drug that they use for puberty blockers is called lelupron. And the documentary
00:25:34.520 tells us that the prescriptions for lelupron for adolescent girls has shot up 600% since 2010. And a
00:25:42.040 study showed that nine out of 10 adolescents who take puberty blockers go on to take the next step,
00:25:47.720 which is the testosterone and the medical transition. So stacked on top of the Dutch protocol is the idea
00:25:55.000 that only the person, only an individual can decide their own gender. So only that person knows.
00:26:01.800 That's why doctors don't care. They don't want to talk to parents. They don't want to hear from
00:26:05.800 parents. They don't want to hear from other doctors who might have concerns about transitioning. We hear
00:26:10.680 from this Quebec researcher that I mentioned, Sansa Fran, who basically just says that interviews with
00:26:17.000 parents are not valid because they are not in the child's head. The child and only the child can decide
00:26:23.240 what to do. And so that is what we're dealing with here. The journalists then go out and try to find
00:26:28.840 the other perspective. So that they show you that that is what the perspective is for the pro-trans
00:26:33.000 people. And that's basically the foundation of what is done in Quebec is based on those theories.
00:26:38.680 But then they also say, look, there's no medical consensus. There is heavy debate around this topic.
00:26:44.120 And so the team goes out to try to find understand what the other side of the story is. They go to a
00:26:48.920 conference in New York City that is specifically focused on transgender adolescents. And while
00:26:54.200 they're there, they interview a couple of doctors that sort of refute what's going on in Quebec. They
00:26:58.680 say that it is impossible to give a letter of recommendation after a single session of therapy.
00:27:03.960 And they say that rules state that the child must be evaluated physically, psychologically, and socially.
00:27:11.160 We then meet another doctor, an American doctor named Lisa Littman, who says that she started
00:27:15.480 noticing that there was a trend where she would see like one trans girl in a school. And then all
00:27:22.520 of a sudden she would see a second, a third, a fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh. And she noticed this
00:27:26.600 new concept, basically rapid onset gender dysphoria, where girls and young women start to talk about their
00:27:33.480 discomfort. And all of a sudden, it's not just one girl coming forward. It's like an entire class or
00:27:37.880 entire group of friends, like one person does it, and they all want to do it. And she's sort of
00:27:43.000 starting to see signs of a social contagion. It's interesting, anyone who has read the book
00:27:47.720 Irreversible Damage by Abigail Schreier, who's a investigative journalist with the Wall Street
00:27:52.600 Journal, she put out this great book in 2020, talking about the same concept, the idea that this
00:27:58.120 is a part of a social contagion, that basically, the phenomenon of transgenderism used to be called
00:28:04.040 transsexuals. They were predominantly men transitioning to be women. But then starting
00:28:09.640 around the 2010s, we started to see a lot of girls wanting to transition to be boys, something that
00:28:16.120 really, there was no history of that. We hadn't really seen that phenomenon before. So that is
00:28:23.720 part of the concern that was outlined in the documentary, saying that these are perhaps not
00:28:27.720 genuine feelings, but rather just confused young girls who are suffering from other illnesses,
00:28:33.240 sometimes borderline personality disorder, being confused for perhaps having gender dysphoria,
00:28:38.680 being influenced by their peers, being influenced by activist doctors, and then leading to these
00:28:43.640 devastating decisions, and terrible regret that we saw in the young women in the documentary.
00:28:49.800 And then the second major critique of what is going on in Canada, and what is going on
00:28:53.880 in Quebec, is that contrary to the Dutch protocol, that transitioning doesn't actually improve
00:29:01.400 mental health. So basically, they went to Scandinavia and Finland, they had one doctor
00:29:06.920 who said that he quickly noticed that several of the new patients were not doing very well afterwards,
00:29:11.160 they still had a lot of psychiatric problems, especially depression, anxiety and autism. And in 2019,
00:29:18.360 they decided to evaluate the impact of hormones and other sex change drugs on mental health,
00:29:23.320 and basically found that people's mental health doesn't necessarily improve. So if you're doing
00:29:30.840 well, and you're happy, and you're well adjusted in transition, you'll probably continue to be happy
00:29:35.640 and well adjusted after the transition. But children who are suffering with mental health issues,
00:29:41.960 that doesn't necessarily improve after transition, they continue to struggle. And sometimes it's not worth
00:29:48.040 basically that this is not a miracle cure for all kinds of problems, which to me is pretty common
00:29:53.160 sense. They then go to Sweden, and they talk to Dr. Landon, who again, I featured him in the previous
00:29:59.720 episode that I did when I was talking about Rachel Gilmore, because she criticized Dr. Landon saying he
00:30:04.920 was a quack. Well, actually, he's the head of a very prestigious hospital and university in Sweden. So he
00:30:11.720 analyzed 195 studies to evaluate the effect on hormones on kids basically included that there
00:30:18.520 is no conclusive data, which provides that there is benefits to reduce symptoms like anxiety, depression,
00:30:24.120 and suicide ideation. That means overall, he said that we cannot recommend this treatment. So
00:30:30.280 hence, this is why in both Finland and Sweden, doctors have completely given up on this idea of puberty
00:30:36.840 blockers, with some exceptions, but more, more or less that the law is that hormones are banned for
00:30:42.680 anyone under 16 years old, and the double mastectomies are banned for minors. And so the documentary
00:30:48.840 basically concludes by saying that in Quebec, maybe we need to study more about what other countries are
00:30:55.080 doing, and keep updated with the latest science and basically just urge for more caution. And so that's
00:31:03.080 it. That's the entire documentary. Nothing, nothing homophobic, nothing crazy, nothing anti-trans,
00:31:09.720 nothing ideological, unlike the criticism that we saw from the radical trans activists, including
00:31:16.040 people like Rachel Gilmore, and lots of trans activists online. We also saw a article over at Extra,
00:31:23.080 which is the gay LGBTQ plus magazine in Canada, just really, really criticizing this documentary,
00:31:29.560 making it seem like the people who made it were absolute monsters. Contrary to all that, the
00:31:34.440 documentary is very reasonable, very balanced, very even. And just again, to show how far off base,
00:31:41.160 the left wing radical trans activists and journalists who are critiquing the documentary are,
00:31:46.760 the journalists behind this documentary went on Latout de Monde en Parle. Latout de Monde en Parle is the most
00:31:52.680 popular talk show in Quebec, probably the most popular and watched talk show in all of Canada,
00:31:57.720 just because so many people in Quebec, watch it and consume it. And it really impacts the culture
00:32:03.320 in Quebec. So these journalists were on there. And they sort of refute every single thing that these
00:32:08.040 trans activists are saying about them. So they were asked, you know, what compelled you to make
00:32:13.560 this documentary. And, you know, they say basically that they just received an onslaught of concerned
00:32:20.440 parents writing to them and communicating to them and telling them the same kind of story,
00:32:24.440 and how their daughters are basically being pushed towards medical transitions. And they felt
00:32:28.520 uncomfortable about it. It was interesting. They talked about how most of the people who wrote to
00:32:33.640 them, they were sort of expecting them to be conservatives and people who were like traditionally
00:32:37.560 opposed to, you know, all kinds of different changes when it comes to gender and sex. But it was
00:32:43.160 the opposite. They're usually mostly like liberal parents who are very open-minded and very open
00:32:47.720 to homosexuality and all that kind of stuff. And they were the ones who were experiencing this.
00:32:53.400 They were also asked about the Scandinavian model. And they basically go through and talk about how
00:32:58.840 these procedures are now banned in Finland and Sweden, and how hormones are not used at all over there.
00:33:06.280 And then finally, we heard them say that a lot of the parents, the reason that they went to Radio
00:33:12.040 Canada and not like a conservative or a right-wing media outlet is because they didn't want to be
00:33:17.160 seen as attacking trans ideology. They didn't want their stories to be hijacked. They just wanted to
00:33:25.080 tell the story so that people in Quebec could understand what was happening and how it was
00:33:29.080 happening so fast. So again, I think that the appearance over on the Tutamon really just dismantles
00:33:35.720 any of the arguments that you see from radical trans activists. A final news story that I wanted
00:33:42.120 to include here is that earlier this week on Tuesday, we learned that the UK will follow Finland
00:33:48.600 and Sweden in banning puberty blockers for minors. So here is a little news clip explaining what that
00:33:55.640 looks like. I think a bit of breaking news, which may be of interest to some of you. It's about puberty
00:34:00.760 blockers. Now, these are drugs that are used to delay the changes of puberty in transgender youngsters.
00:34:09.560 In terms of how they are prescribed by the NHS, there has been a lot of controversy over the last
00:34:13.720 few years about this. At the moment, they are only prescribed to children attending gender identity
00:34:19.480 services as part of clinical research. And they are not routinely offered to children at gender identity
00:34:27.240 clinics, but they are still offered. Well, the government, NHS England, has just confirmed
00:34:31.880 that children will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers at gender identity clinics. This is coming
00:34:38.280 from NHS England. It just broke in the last few moments. So some good news coming out of England.
00:34:45.000 And I think that we can all hope that that's the direction that we're heading. And hopefully Canada
00:34:49.960 will be the next one. Like I said, I think this documentary will have a huge impact
00:34:53.000 in Quebec. The way it was presented was very fair and very moderate. And I think reasonable people
00:34:57.880 will see it and conclude that it is the wrong decision to allow children to make these kinds of
00:35:03.560 changes to their body. And despite, you know, the journalists taking some shots at conservatives
00:35:09.000 saying that they didn't want the story to be painted as a conservative issue, the reality is that the
00:35:14.760 conservatives are correct on this issue. A person cannot change their sex, they cannot mutilate their body,
00:35:21.160 and all of a sudden become the other sex. Mutilating a child's body in the name of progress is wrong,
00:35:26.760 and it is evil, and history will not look kindly on those pushing this ideological butchery.
00:35:32.680 Every Canadian should watch this documentary. Every Canadian should reach out to their local
00:35:37.480 representative, their member of parliament, and demand action. They should demand that these barbaric
00:35:42.280 practices be banned, especially for minors, just as they've been banned in the UK, Sweden, and Finland.
00:35:48.840 It's Fake News Friday. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.