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- August 25, 2023
21-Year-Old Tells Us Why Marriage Doesn't Matter...
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11 minutes
Words per Minute
218.52113
Word Count
2,576
Sentence Count
235
Misogynist Sentences
40
Hate Speech Sentences
26
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I have a question, I have a question.
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Do they have husbands?
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Yes.
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No, not except.
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We can't say that.
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Okay, okay, so you know one, but most don't.
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No, no, I know like a few.
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There's a lot who have.
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But like we said, marriage means shit.
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So why was your first reaction one?
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Oh, I know one.
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Because most, okay, what do you, okay, I have a question.
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Do the majority have husbands?
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How do we know that?
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Yes, no, okay, no, no, no.
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Do the majority, guys will date a girl
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for a couple years and bounce if she's hot.
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No, a lot of people do it from like,
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when they're like, you know, they've been like
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from together since a young age
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and then they'll both start it.
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It's not like, you know, they'll do it together.
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That's because they've got a kink.
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Again, again, I just need you to answer yes or no.
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Does it really matter if they're married?
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Yes, does the majority, does the majority have husbands?
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No.
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Okay, there we go.
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So why is it matter?
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Correct, correct.
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That's not relevant if she has a husband or not.
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She's making a point about.
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Why does marriage always matter?
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She's probably making more money than any other
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that goes on the couch.
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It does.
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Marriage matters because it's,
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it's a stable relationship with two people
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that respect each other.
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No, because like, it doesn't matter if you're married.
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It doesn't make you.
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So you're saying her marriage doesn't matter?
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Did I say that?
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You just did.
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Her husband's hot.
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I said that if you're married.
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Okay, okay.
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Did I say, oh, your marriage doesn't matter?
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No, I said if you're married.
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Do you think, you don't think marriage matters?
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Not now, no.
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Like people get divorced, like.
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She's 22.
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She doesn't know any difference.
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She's 22. Sorry, I apologize.
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I'm 21, actually.
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21. Sorry, I've over-aged you.
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She's 21.
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She doesn't know any difference.
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She's too young.
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It's because I've seen like so many people get divorced,
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like marriages don't work now.
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Like, I honestly, I see your point of view a little bit, right?
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I understand that marriage isn't marriage anymore
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because most people get divorced.
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But we have to admit that getting a guy to marry you
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is a far higher level of commitment than a guy dating you.
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It's a flex.
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Yeah.
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And we can agree that a guy is more committed
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when he's married, right?
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Yes.
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So the fact that the majority of-
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I don't know if I agree with that either.
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No, I don't agree with that either.
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Okay, you don't think him putting you in a position
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where you can take half his shit is more committed?
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Yeah, but you can't-
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I'm not saying it's good.
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I don't really see it like that.
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It's just from my experience, I'm not married.
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I've had, and a lot of my friends are,
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but they go through the motions where they date,
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going out with something, it's steady.
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And it's just like the next step to get engaged,
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to get married.
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Right.
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It doesn't necessarily mean that they love you more
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or committed, unfortunately,
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sometimes they just sort of go through those steps.
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She's trying to be different so bad.
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It's like pissing me off.
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Like, oh, it doesn't mean they really love you.
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Like-
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It doesn't.
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No, I'm not saying that they don't.
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I'm just saying from my experience, from my friendship
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group, that it's, that's what's happened.
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Well, what do you think, what do you think marriage is?
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You don't think it's boring going through the motions?
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Well, I'm not married.
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I've just seen, unfortunately, with some friends,
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it's worked out for them, and some it hasn't.
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They go through the motions.
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They're in a social group where, you know,
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you get together, you're friends, and then, you know,
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you're dating for a while.
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And going through those steps, and then you get married.
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And yeah, okay, it's a sign of them being more committed,
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but I don't know necessarily if they're in love.
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Okay, okay.
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Do you think love is a choice or a feeling?
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Both.
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Um, that's tricky.
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Uh, a choice, a choice.
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Okay, so wouldn't, wouldn't they be choosing to love each other
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if they're married?
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Um, some.
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I, I, it's, I don't know, yeah, they should be.
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And you would agree.
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But unfortunately, some in my friendship groups,
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it hasn't worked out that way.
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Okay, and you would agree that they're more committed.
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They feel it under pressure.
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Wouldn't, wouldn't you agree, wouldn't you agree that
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they're more committed than the people that are not married?
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Yes.
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No, maybe on paper.
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On paper.
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Okay, would you agree the men are more committed?
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No.
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What? Because they're getting married.
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Because they spent all this money on a wedding.
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They spent all the money on a ring.
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I think on paper, on the surface,
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it looks like they're committed.
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Behind the doors, in general.
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They're cheating and doing all kinds of.
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She's quite right.
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Yeah, she's right.
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No, I agree, most married, I've, I've, most married men
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I've not personally come in contact just through friends
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and that aren't faithful, which is kind of terrifying
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for somebody who's me who wants to get married
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and live that kind of normal, traditional 2.5 kids.
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Are most women today faithful?
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No.
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It's complex.
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No, again, it's, it's subjective.
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Like men and women who are equal,
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both will do equally as shit stuff
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as the other person would do.
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I just don't understand why being unfaithful is like this,
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you know, people used to cheat and they'd work through it
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and it didn't have to be the end of the world.
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So I just don't understand why we're in this society
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where we tell women that you're the absolute victim
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if you get cheated on.
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Because women think they can do that.
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When most women, like they post ass pictures on Instagram,
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they have open Instagram, they're talking,
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they have male friends, they're talking to other guys
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all the time.
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Like, you know, yeah, go ahead.
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What about like the women who don't do that stuff?
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Like genuine, like conservative Christian woman
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who don't act like that.
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And their husband, like they're fully committed
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to someone traditionally
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and they're in like a conservative Christian marriage,
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which is what I want in my life, right?
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I don't act like that on the internet anymore.
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And they cheat on me.
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Then I don't have the right to get upset,
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especially like under God and stuff.
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Well, I, okay.
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I think you have a right to get upset.
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I didn't say anyone can't get upset, but my,
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no, my, no, I'm not saying who cares.
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I'm saying, I don't think it's the end of the world.
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And I think it can be worked through.
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And I personally know women that maybe their,
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their husband cheated 20 years ago.
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They worked through it.
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They're happier than ever.
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And I think all we ever hear in media is like,
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it's the end of the world.
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And we never talk about the part the woman played
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because a lot of women like demasculate men so much
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and they just criticize him so much that he just wants
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to go somewhere and feel like a man.
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And I'm talking like traditional.
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So people, so no, no, no.
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And I, and I, and I think it's very rare to find a wife
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who's perfect.
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I think nobody's perfect.
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Correct.
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And so that's my point.
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It's like, let's make sure we're clean and perfect before
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we break up and into perfect.
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And that's my point.
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Like we have to remember, it doesn't give him the right,
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but I'm saying men are human and I, and I,
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but they're not exactly the, they're not animals, right?
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They're human.
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I'm not saying they're animals, but I'm saying,
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I think it's silly to tell women to leave every time
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you get cheated on.
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I agree with you.
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I think again, it's a generational thing.
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I agree with you.
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Women now, again, are more inclined to go, okay,
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I'm done with it because man's cheated me.
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He's made me feel less than I am because there's a thousand men
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who are trying to swipe into them, slide in their DMS.
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Cause they have those options.
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Whereas back in the day it was like, Oh no, no, it's my husband.
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I'm going to work on it.
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I think it's really sad that in society nowadays that women
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think there's always something better.
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Whereas you can just work on establishing that.
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And I interview, like, I've heard stories of like moms
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where the mom left because she got cheated on.
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The dad gets remarried.
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The mom's single.
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Is she better off now?
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No.
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Is that a better life for her?
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And I like, I'm not excusing it.
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I'm not saying it's okay, but like we were supposed to be,
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we were supposed to be virgins on our wedding days.
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If you think of the emotional distress of the woman
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that's going to have to stay with a man who's cheated on it.
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You have to constantly day by day go think, who's he texting?
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No, no, no, no.
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But you choose to do that.
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No, it's hard to get over it.
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It is a choice.
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Well, marriages, you're supposed to do hard things.
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Women back in the day didn't have the choice.
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That's the thing.
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Whereas 2023 women do have the choice.
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They have an option to do better than they have done,
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to accept, to realize they expect and they deserve more.
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Well, but you see, I let that deserve.
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See, it's like.
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Because women do deserve as men deserve.
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Men deserve.
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I don't think anyone deserves anything.
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Everyone does.
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I think if you commit, if you commit into a relationship
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and you are married, one second,
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if you commit to a relationship and you're married,
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it's a contractual agreement that you have decided,
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you and me, we're a team, that's it.
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And if someone breaks that, I do think it's too easy nowadays.
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Do you think women, we should break it?
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Do you think men should break the marriage contract
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because we're not coming in as virgins?
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Should they not marry us?
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But they choose to marry you knowing full fact
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that that might not be the case, right?
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So they already know that.
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So that's done and dusted.
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Let's get over it.
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Now it's the guy, right?
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Let's get over it.
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Should men break the marriage contract
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if a woman gets fat in a marriage?
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Maybe.
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Yes.
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Wow.
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I mean, it depends why she gets fat, right?
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Why does it depend?
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I don't know.
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What if it's something he's done?
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Does it depend why he cheated?
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You never ask the guys.
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I actually wanted to point this out.
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So you said it depends on why she's getting fat.
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So...
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What if it's a medical thing?
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That's my point.
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But essentially, what you're trying to say is because
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some of the reasons why women get fat
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is actually because of their hormones sometimes.
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I know that.
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Could be.
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Good.
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So what you're essentially saying is in a marriage,
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a man has to deal with a woman's hormones.
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So for instance, when she's on a period,
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we have to deal with all the bullshit that comes with that.
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When she gets fat because of her hormones,
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we have to deal with that.
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But then you never think about the problems
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that men face with our own hormones, which is testosterone.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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What have I got to do with being fat?
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I actually hadn't finished what I was saying.
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Go ahead, go ahead.
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So if he does cheat or whatever, if he is sorry for cheating and he really is making an effort
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to make it right, then I think you should probably try and make that work because you've already
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made this, it's through thick and thin, good and bad, all that stuff.
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But if he has said, okay, I cheated on you.
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And now I want the, the, the, the woman I had an affair with to be my next girlfriend.
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And I don't care about you.
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Then what does the wife is food?
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Well, it's, I think like, and again, you know, studies can say anything,
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but the studies I've seen, it's like 50 to 70% of the time.
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It's a one to two time thing.
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Yeah.
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So it's like knowing that the majority of, of cheating is a one-time thing.
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I just think it's in our best interest to try to get through it.
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And especially, I think it's tough for guys nowadays, because women walk around half naked.
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You know, like men have so much testosterone.
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I love being naked.
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They should be able to, everyone should be able to, not naked, everyone keep your pants on.
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I just went to Vegas and chicks had stickies on their boobs and they're walking around no top
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or in a thong and just, you know.
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That's how you naturally are.
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Why not?
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Well, I, I think that's hard for men.
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Like men have all of this testosterone, you know, that's a very tough.
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They actually don't care about testosterone.
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So you say women should be able to walk around naked.
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And in the same breath, you're saying men should be faithful to their wives.
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But in the same breath, you're also saying that that same man that should be faithful to you
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should be able to go out and accept the fact that every woman out there
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should just be able to walk around naked.
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If you go to a nudist beach, no one wants to have sex with any of them.
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And they run around naked all day long.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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I just need to repeat this.
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You think that the men don't want to have sex at nudist beaches?
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I mean, maybe one or two of them.
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You don't think?
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But they're all pretty like, I don't like seeing the naked people.
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Okay, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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I want you to just logically think through this.
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You think that if the naked women went up to the men on the beach
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and offered them sex, they would say no.
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Have you seen them?
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Some of them wear like sandals and socks.
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I don't think they think about it.
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I need a yes or a no.
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I just don't think.
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I think they're not in the mind frame.
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No, no, I need a yes or a no.
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They don't go around with their penises.
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All right, I'm going to ask the question again.
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I'm going to ask the question again.
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I don't think so.
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Do you think the majority of men, if a naked woman is in front of them and offering them.
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You've changed the question, go to the nudist beach.
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Okay, what is she on the nudist beach?
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What is she?
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Naked, on the nudist beach where everyone's naked.
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I think no one cares.
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Okay, okay, we're going to.
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No, people do care.
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How much of the population go to nudist beach?
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You're actually talking about the niche type of people that go there.
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Well, we started there.
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I mean, it's quite a novel thing, right?
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