Andrew Wilson Destroys Another Piers Morgan Panel ｜ Pearl Daily
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Summary
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage for men and why it s a terrible deal for them. Women are taught to leave their husbands, and their daughters grow up without their fathers. What kind of a man are you going to attract if you are in trouble?
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Most young men are single, most young women are not.
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Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
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It's a different world now, like we don't need men the way that they used to.
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Men and women are drifting further apart and society is crumbling because of it.
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A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
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You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
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This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
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You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
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It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
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Now many of the red pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
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One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
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She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
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Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
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74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
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Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
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Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
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I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
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Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
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When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.
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And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
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I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
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You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
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We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
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Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
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Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
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A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
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Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
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We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
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You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
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I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
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Like, if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic,
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naturally, the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
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Like, women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
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And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings,
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leave when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.
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This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?
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Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
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I have seen so many men on the brink of suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong.
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How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
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The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
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The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, to alcohol,
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Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
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Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man to get...
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Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
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If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
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So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
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I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
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I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
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Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want
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The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
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We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
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This is an existential crisis failing young men.
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Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
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Today, we are going to be reacting to Andrew Wilson on Pierce Morgan, which is kind of a
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But before we do, I wanted to thank the people that have donated to the GoFundMe.
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So as you guys know, we are trying to raise $100,000 to put together this divorce documentary.
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Yes, guys, $50 15 hours ago from Juan Ignacio, $10, Anonymous, $10.
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So thank you guys for getting it to the $37,000 mark.
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Now we're almost to $40,000, which is pretty cool.
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So all Super Chats also go to the Divorce documentary.
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So today we're going to be reacting to Andrew Wilson.
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And so basically, there was a tweet that was put out there saying that Sidney Sweeney is somehow
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And it's just amazing how much society does not like when a pretty blonde girl, how much
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So apparently there's like white supremacy over an ad.
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Well, everything Nazism, say everybody's a Nazi, except for the actual Nazis.
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Historically, we have only normalized white people.
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And so we've made white women's, white women's bodies the norm.
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American Eagle's Sidney Sweeney has great genes campaign has unleashed a Hitlerian hysteria not
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In case you'd be living under a rock this week, this is what the fuss is about.
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Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality,
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Well, half of the adverse viewers see a cheeky ad with an attractive actress flogging genes.
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The other half apparently see a subliminal propaganda campaign for eugenics, fascism.
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And white supremacy with a dash of Nazis thrown in for the mix.
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Those Sidney Sweeney American Eagle ads are weird, like fascist weird.
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Did American Eagle just run an ad for eugenics?
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The attractive white woman with blonde hair, blue eyes, is talking about just the gene she
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You see a blonde-haired, blue-eyed white woman and think that is an all-American woman?
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That is the exact problem with this advertisement.
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Hey, American Eagle, now do black and brown women.
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There's so many ads with black and brown women, you know, I don't even like...
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Let me put a blonde girl and they're getting mad.
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I think we should just start shaming them instead.
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It's all just excitable people on social media who are losing their minds on this one.
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Even Good Morning America is wondering whether Sidney's great genes may herald the onset of
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We begin with the backlash over a new ad campaign featuring actress Sidney Sweeney.
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Yeah, the ads are for American Eagle and the tagline is, Sidney Sweeney has great genes.
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Now, in one ad, the blonde-haired, blue-eyed actress talks about genes as in DNA being passed
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I mean, you could say that about Beyonce or something, you know?
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On words is being compared to Nazi propaganda with racial undertones.
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So is Sidney Sweeney the new poster girl for white supremacy, or is it all, as one commentator
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Well, turning to my panel now, I'm away from my usual studio, working on a slight delay,
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so I'll begin with a polite request for everyone to take it in turns and allow the audience
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I'm joined by Jedidiah Beeler, the host of the Jedidiah Beeler Show, by the conservative
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influencer, Deborah Lee, academic and host of BET News, Mark Lamont-Hill, and the author
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of Cultural Intelligence for Marketers, Dr. Anastasia Gabrielle.
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I mean, I just saw Sidney Sweeney, looking hot, selling jeans.
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I would love to live in a world where more people would have the privilege to look at
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this ad and simply see an ad for great jeans, but that's not the world that we live in,
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and we live in a world that is marked with a lot of cultural baggage.
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So when I saw this ad as a marketer, as somebody who works with agencies and brands on issues
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of culture and cultural relevance, I was frankly angered.
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And the reason for that is that the ad is racist and eugenics coded.
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And I have to be clear that when I say that, I don't mean to talk about the intent of the
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creators behind this ad, but rather the impact that it has on audiences and particularly on
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And here we need to remember that the target audience of American Eagle is the most racially
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and ethnically diverse consumer group in the history of the United States.
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And somebody who has spent a lot of time studying semiotics and the way that meaning is encoded in
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various forms of media and cultural artifacts, it becomes very clear to me that when we take apart
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this particular ad campaign, it marries certain concepts and certain words that carry cultural
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And if that wasn't enough, we can go back and look to the source material for this particular
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campaign, which is a Calvin Klein ad from 1980 that uses very explicitly the same kind of rhetoric
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of, and even more so rather, dramatically natural selection, survival of the fittest, selective
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mating, the superiority of dominant groups, et cetera.
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And from a perspective of media and cultural studies, when we look at this particular campaign,
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we can see how meaning travels from the source of inspiration to this particular narrative structure
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And so it is no surprise to me that it was picked up by audiences that reacted in the way that
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And research shows, even though obviously Gen Z are in themselves a diverse group, they're
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also generally on average, more progressive leaning and of course, chronically online.
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Anastasia, we haven't had you on, we haven't had you on a sensor before.
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I didn't really understand a word of what you've just said.
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Are you, are you this much fun at parties or do you have a different persona there?
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I would love it if you weren't disrespectful to me.
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You want these people to destroy your theology.
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Um, Andrew Wilson, Sydney Sweeney on Pierce Morgan.
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You want these people to destroy your theology.
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Um, Andrew Wilson, Sydney Sweeney on Pierce Morgan.
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The natural selection, survival of the fittest, selective mating, the superiority of
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Let's look at an earlier American Eagle ad, which was in the middle of the whole Me Too campaign
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Um, do you have any problem with the lady on the left there?
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I don't have a problem with the woman on the right.
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You do have a problem with the woman on the right.
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One, you specifically said, let's not interrupt each other.
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And I haven't been able to articulate one sentence yet.
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I am not offended by the woman on the left, nor am I offended by the woman on the right.
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The a-ha that you're going for isn't there because I'm saying I am not offended by either
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Two people have spoken uninterrupted for three minutes.
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What I'm saying is the problem is not either woman.
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The problem is how we're narrating the commercial.
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Several things have been said that I'd like to respond to in direct response to what you're
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The first thing, and I'm glad the last woman who spoke mentioned that she's Jewish because
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Historically, there have been lots of anti-Semitic images, narratives, tropes that are used that
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See, and many times someone will say, oh, wait a minute.
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They showed that person playing into the cabal narrative.
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They showed this person as a rodent, or they showed this person with changing their name
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And the average person may not intend to be anti-Semitic, although some people are anti-Semitic.
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So I don't want to presume that because a white person doesn't see it, that that means
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Or if a black person doesn't see it—you know what I'm saying?
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We have to think about this on all levels from multiple audiences.
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You used the word normal and talked about it in the context of this white woman.
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White women are normal, but so are other people.
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The problem is, historically, we have only normalized white people.
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And so we've made white women's bodies, white male bodies, the norm.
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And we've made everything else less human, less beautiful, less real.
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And so when we say good genes are the ones that—
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There's some people that just shouldn't have microphones.
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And there's people that are subject matter experts and like academics.
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And then some Jewish lady that can't do a coherent thought.
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Again, you're trying for these gotchas if you just listen.
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The whole point is to argue that good and bad genes itself is a bad idea.
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Sometimes they just put like dumb people on shows just to argue with them.
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I'm going to respond and I'm going to hope that you don't interrupt me as I answer.
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Because again, no one else has been interrupted except the people who disagree with you.
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The point here is to judge human beings based on their genes that you decide that you have
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good genes and you have bad genes isn't in and of itself a racist project.
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So no, it's not that I think that I have good genes and you can't say anyone else has
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I'm saying let's get rid of the good genes narrative, particularly when it's based on
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In other words, if I say that straight hair is good genes or blonde hair is good genes—and
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I'm not after watching an ad Googling someone to figure out their natural roots.
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You'd be shocked to know how many people don't do that.
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If I'm doing these things and I see blue—your eye color and your hair as a sign of your good
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genes, then that means someone who has a different hair or eye color doesn't have good genes.
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And if you—the last thing I'll say is if you look historically at ads—
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My instruction about shouting was between the three or four of you.
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If you interrupt me in the first minute, it's bad form.
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I'm saying that if you let the guests who agreed with you talk for three minutes,
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then don't allow me to talk for more than one second.
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You literally didn't let me finish the first second.
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When you're in these environments, it's such a weird setting.
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I kind of hate—so I don't really take these panels anymore because I just hate talking
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I don't want to talk to you like this scripted monologues.
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I want to have a back and forth and understand where you're coming from.
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Literally, you have literally done more talking than all three other guests put together multiple
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That's not true, but my issue with you interrupting was not—
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My point was just to interrupt me in the first 10 seconds.
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I also have good genes, particularly on my mother's side because my skin is surprisingly
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good for a personal age because my mother's side all had good skin.
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If I say I've got good genes from my mother because I have good skin and I've got blue eyes,
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If someone has bad genes, what would their hair or skin look like?
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I didn't see anybody from American Eagle saying that anybody else—
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Nobody from American Eagle was making any comparison.
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Nobody said somebody else's eye color or skin color was wrong or bad or anything negative.
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All they said in an amusing pun is that Sidney Sweeney has good genes and is wearing great
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Because if I were to stand on here and say, oh, she's from a good background.
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No, by saying that Gentiles, the good background, I would be implicitly saying that the others
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If I say I have a good body, I'm skinny, then I'm saying the other bodies are not good.
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It's an implicit comparison, but it's not out of context.
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Historically in this country and in the West, we've always said that white bodies are more
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We're starting from a place where we've already presumed white.
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I actually think black women have the best bodies.
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I do think blonde women have the best like features here.
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Sometimes blonde women, a lot of blonde women have nose jobs.
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So I don't think they normally like they kind of have the crooked.
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Like nowadays, most women, it's so common to get nose jobs.
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I feel like there's different things that each race has that look really good.
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I've never, I've never, I only know one or two, but I've heard there.
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I've heard the girls in Israel are like beautiful.
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I've spent the last 10 years, the last 10 years.
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If you look at all of the marketing campaigns, all of we, we have done how many segments
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You see people who are massive that you now we're saying it's a good thing, right?
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Let's celebrate everyone who's unhealthy and obese.
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If, if this ad was an African American, if this ad was a Hispanic girl, no one would
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Frankly, I think if this ad was a white girl like me with brown hair, brown eyes, I got
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I don't think anyone would be saying anything either.
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The only people who are offended by this ad are people who choose to be offended by everything.
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Either you choose to see racism in everything, or you choose to see sexism or misogyny.
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I noticed that a whole lot of women online were mad about this ad because they were jealous.
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Now, now they're saying that this woman is against the body positivity campaign because
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Now, why has the stock skyrocketed for this company?
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The reason this ad has done so well is yes, because it creates controversy and we all
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And American Eagle is very smart and they knew that.
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But also because there is a growing segment of the population just like me that is saying
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that is so tired of walking on eggshells to cater to people like Mark's sensitivities.
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You can put an ad out and offend this person over here or that person over there.
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Everyone is always going to get offended by something.
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If you see everything through the lens of race, that's your problem.
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Getting offended, the way I think, even if somebody's insulting you in your face and yelling
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at you and screaming, getting offended says more about you than them because their anger
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is their problem, but your anger is also your problem.
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If you see everything through the lens of misogyny, it's the same conversation over and
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The Democrats have just polled at record loads, right?
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The reason Donald Trump got re-elected is partly the economy, partly immigration, but
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also partly the culture wars, which the liberal left, the woke left, tried so dementedly to
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fuel and fire for so many years, behaving like a bunch of insane fascists.
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And it comes down to stuff like this, where most people watch this ad and see it for what
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it is, a harmless ad with a hot actress selling jeans.
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But in the prism of the woke left, which I assume you would identify as, but correct me
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if I'm wrong, you look at it and see it as an obvious example of Nazism, eugenics, white
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That's why nobody wants to vote for anyone who identifies with the woke left.
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And no one on the left in the woke left seems to understand that it's exactly this kind of
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thing that is the reason that nobody wants to vote for it.
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And I think that kind of strong narratives between, you know, woke left kind of hijacking
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everything is part of a narrative of labeling people and not allowing nuance and context of
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So I'm not really interested in being inflammatory around the subject.
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Neither do I think that this particular campaign is a propaganda campaign for eugenics.
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But I am interested in thinking about the power of media and representation in our culture
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and what it means for somebody who engages with this ad who doesn't look like me.
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And as a marketer, I know that actually it is American Eagle's problem that that is a reaction of their customer base,
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which is younger people and particularly younger girls.
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And as a marketer, I know it's a responsibility of the brand to understand their audience,
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to understand their worldview, the way that they form their associations and connect with them.
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Women just say a lot of words, but say nothing, nothing at all.
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Today's show is brought to you by Oxford Natural, makers of the Optimum Day and found out
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one model was pictured wearing a colostomy bag, another was photographed with her arm in crutches,
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one woman posed in her wheelchair, and it did nothing for sales.
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So from a marketing point of view, it didn't work.
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Now you have a hot woman who is none of those things, who is just a hot woman,
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like the old advertising used to use all the time, along with hot men.
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You know, I want to go to a movie or a sea of models and I want them to make me feel bad
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I want to look at them and say, wow, I am not shit.
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Women complain so much that they're putting ugly people as models.
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So you as a marketer should say, well done, American Eagle.
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You've stopped being ridiculously woke, you know, trying to sell to very small groups of
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people and ignoring the mass majority who are going to buy your jeans.
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And now you've gone route one using sex and femininity to sell jeans.
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And by the way, they don't care if she's white or black or anything else.
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That worked really well because she's a hot black woman.
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And the moment you try and read in all this other stuff.
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I mean, you say you don't want to be inflammatory.
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You literally said it was one of the most outrageously racist marketing campaigns ever.
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I feel like this is just like a Twitter space argument in real life.
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I said that I've seen in recent years, I'm very careful with my words.
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So I did not paint this picture of this being a racist ad, you know, ever.
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But I do think and I think I've explained the way that representation works and the way that I see it working within this ad.
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Now, I would love to see the evidence for the 30% sales spike.
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Neither I have seen, you know, anyone in the marketing community share it.
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So I would love to see it and the source for that.
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However, there is a question of ethics and there is a question of ethical guardrails in marketing.
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I understand that in 2020 or whenever brands were responding to the cultural moment of post 2020 impulse to increase representation, diversity, etc.
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And perhaps those campaigns were not commercially successful.
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Now, do I think that commercial outcomes justify any kind of campaign that implies anything out there just because it drives sales?
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Well, no, as a marketer, I am interested in driving business results.
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That's I deem her the new hottest e-girl on the right.
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But also thinking about the ethics of representation and what kind of messages are young girls and children, frankly, consuming when they log on to their Instagram or TikTok and keep swiping.
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And again, I said I take more balanced approach to this.
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I do not think it was intentional propaganda, as I have already said.
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But I do think that there are some codes within this marketing media communications, which is a unit of media that are concerning in the way that they are implying that good grade genes are represented by someone like Sweeney.
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Now, other co-panelists mentioned, if another particular model of other kind of background or maybe multiple models were featured, there's likely would not be an uproar.
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And that is because that kind of messaging carries cultural baggage, as I've mentioned.
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Is reflective of the history of racism in this country.
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Because the verbal cues surrounding this terminology that carries a lot of cultural weight, such as offspring, gray genes, are paired with these other signifiers that are very specific.
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And you have to understand that this is just a reality of how our brains work.
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We move for life and we develop these conceptional and mental maps based in the media.
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So you don't like it because she's white and got blue eyes.
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Because if it was a black girl, they wouldn't care.
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If she was fat, she would be on the cover of a magazine.
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Debra Lee, I mean, ultimately, we got to the real problem.
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Since when was that a crime to use a white, blue eyed woman who's hot and an actress to sell products?
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Happens all the time, as it does with black actresses all the time.
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I'd say somewhere in the last five to six years, the oldest marketing ploy from the beginning of time is sex sells.
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And the problem with the left and everybody who's offended by this is they extrapolate.
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Sydney Sweeney saying she has good genes, which there's a lot that goes into having good genes we don't know about.
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Maybe she doesn't have any history of family illness.
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She has very low visceral fat. Like you said, Pierce, great skin, didn't need braces.
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It's much more than just having blonde hair and blue eyes.
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OK, but to say that Sydney Sweeney has good genes means now we're saying that all these other people don't have good genes.
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Relax. Why do you have to always get offended by every single thing?
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Abercrombie that had the shirtless models outside of all of their offices.
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It's the same people that are offended by the Sydney Sweeney ad that were dreaming and praying to end up with one of those shirtless models.
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Society has progressed too far in the sense where now every single person needs to be put on everything to find value.
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OK, Marta Monhill, I remember a model called Tess Holliday being the cover of Cosmopolitan magazine.
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She was three hundred and five pounds and five foot two.
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And the whole piece was about how incredibly empowering this was and what an example of body positivity it was.
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But in fact, it was unbelievably dangerous promotion of morbid obesity.
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Because if you're three hundred and five pounds at five foot two, you are dangerously fat and you are more likely than not to die from the repercussions of being that size.
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And yet here you have a model who's not super slim, Sydney Sweeney.
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Right. She's not like a stick insect supermodel.
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And she looks hot and she's wearing jeans and she happens to be white and happens to have blue eyes.
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To try and turn this into a racial thing or to compare it to the Nazis, even by woke standards, seems to me ridiculous.
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OK, first, just for clarity, Sydney Sweeney is a size zero.
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So even when we say that someone is a normal size, that suggests that the.
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It's better than being a size 14, which is like the average dress size of American women.
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The average person, the average woman in this country is not.
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So at all moments when we make these observations that seem neutral, we're actually assigning a value.
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So if I am a size eight as a woman and you just said on national TV is the most important, coolest, most handsome host in the history of television.
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If you say that it's normal to be a size zero, then yeah, when I'm a size eight now, I feel like something's wrong with my body.
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She doesn't look normal to you, Sydney Sweeney.
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I'm just very, very upset about the world, you know, and I need a hug from you and you're
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Well, there are more important things to be worried about than Sydney bloody Sweeney.
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And you're getting your knickers in a massive twist about Sydney Sweeney.
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How did you know her dress size and not her hair color?
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Because I just Googled it when he said it and it comes up because I just typed Sydney
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Sweeney dress size and it says Sydney Sweeney typically wears a size 23, which is equivalent
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I looked it up to make an argument while he was talking.
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I had no desire to do it with the ad because it wasn't my point.
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As a scholar, my point was to see how the audience receives something, not how I, at a meta level,
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I, as an admiral of the female form, she is not a size zero.
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She might be because they've been making the sizes bigger for fat women because fat women
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And so instead of losing weight, they make the sizes.
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So now I'd like to respond to the actual point.
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Whatever size she is, my point is to say any woman has a normal size.
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I'm saying we're always articulating values when we say things.
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Putting a 300 pound woman on a cover is not in and of itself a problem.
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If I put a 300 pound woman on a cover and say, that's the healthy body, I'm implicitly saying
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And to your point, I think that might be problematic.
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At the beginning of this conversation, Debra, I think your name is Debra.
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He would bitch out Jedediah, but the hot girl, like, look at her.
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That's why we start to hate these young broads.
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Cause I gotta go through all this work of being nice and like, you know, learning to
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I know they're not genocidal, but for you, to you, you hear it differently.
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You're looking at action and you're making a different judgment.
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That statement is absolutely not Gaza needs to be free.
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It comes from the literal charter, from the river to the sea, we must genocide all Jews.
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I'm looking at the literal Hamas charter and what these people believe.
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You're looking, you're not looking just at the words.
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And the meaning isn't just about literal decoding.
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It's also about the meanings that are encoded into words.
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And I'm telling you, the same way you're telling me as a Jewish person, there are certain
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words, certain images, certain tropes that impact you because of the history of anti-Semitism.
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I'm telling you that the same history of anti-white supremacy that makes anti-Semitism so ugly
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I didn't tell you I was offended by this argument.
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You keep saying—you said get a job and stop being offended.
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I think we all have jobs here, and I don't think any of us are offended, per se.
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If you have time to make TikTok videos complaining about a woman in an ad, you probably
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Let me bring in Jedediah for the final word on this.
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Jedediah, it seems to me, honestly, if I was running a marketing campaign for a big
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company now involved in, I don't know, leisure or beauty or fashion, whatever, I would just
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be deliberately goading the woke left now in a smart, funny way.
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I would let them throw all their toys out of a stroller and then just increase sales
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Because this censorious, puritanical bullshit is over.
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I've written a book called Woke is Dead, which is coming out in October.
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I think it'll be a massive bestseller because you know what?
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They are sick of being told what they can laugh at, what they can admire.
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They're sick of being told they can't look at a beautiful white woman without being accused
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And every company should do that because there is a group of woke leftists who are outraged
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by just about everything that sit on the sidelines and they just wait.
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They wait for an opportunity and then they jump and they go completely insane.
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And the vast majority of the country does not feel that way.
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The vast majority of the country does not see everything through a lens of how they can
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And the bottom line is, it's so interesting to me because these people think they're somehow
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They think that by getting all riled up, they are winning the game and they don't realize
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The irony is in their attempt to portray everybody as white supremacists.
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The woke left have an inbuilt superiority complex.
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They think they are better and superior to everybody else.
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And it doesn't matter whether the woke left or white, black, whatever.
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And now I'm afraid it doesn't work because we've now seen Donald Trump get reelected by
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But not only that, Pierce, what's important to note is that the people who created this ad
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But the people who saw racism and eugenics and Nazism in this ad, maybe they should self-examine.
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Why do they see everything through the lens of race?
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Why are they outraged by this ad with a blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl?
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But if you put, you know, a black girl, if you put a Spanish girl, there would be no outrage.
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Why is everything that they see from the perspective of jumping into outrage?
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No one in the history of the West has ever argued that black people have superior genes.
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The Enlightenment era was built on the idea that white people have superior genes.
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The impression of aesthetics is built on the idea that white people have superior bodies.
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Every piece of aesthetics, a philosophy, a systemology—
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There has been a massive battle in this country about obesity for the longest time.
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You have campaigns, Cosmopolitan Magazine, magazines across the country saying fat is healthy.
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People in your camp do not say a peep about that because it's not on the list of things that outrages them.
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You just happen to be outraged about something different today.
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There's always something for the woke left to be outraged about because they're always offended.
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They've always got their families in a bunch because they're so darn sensitive about everything.
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And number two, I point out a history of white supremacist logics and cultures that show that white lives, white bodies, white experiences are better.
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You pointed to the influx of fat people on ads as a piece of counter evidence.
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I'm not disputing your argument about fat people.
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I'm not disputing your argument about skinny people.
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I'm saying that there's a history of white people being superior in terms of how we understand them in this country.
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If a group of people had said, hey, I believe that this ad is antisemitic, would you have said similarly, get over yourself, stop fighting antisemitism everywhere?
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There's some stuff as a YouTuber you have to cover and you just think, who cares?
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If anything, I think Sidney Sweeney wasn't hot enough.
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I think you're consistent and wrong on all these.
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You're wrong all the time, but you're consistent.
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I think there's one more debate panel I wanted to see.
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Let me see what the, let me go to his page and see the most popular clips.
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Why do you want these people to destroy your theology if you're Catholic, sir?
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They're going after your theology on the public stage.
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I shouldn't probably have read that out, but it was very funny.
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So from a musical perspective, I've read a lot of reviews this morning about this.
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Full disclosure, I'm good friends with Andrew Lloyd Webber.
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Jesus Christ Superstar when it came out in the 70s was deliberately designed to be very provocative, as we know,
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but it's never been as provocative as this performance.
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I mean, from a musical perspective, it's been heralded as a great triumph,
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Oh, it's been heralded as a great triumph, has it?
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So what they do is they're banking on the fact that there is a Christian pacifism
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and that we won't give the sorts of violent pushback that they would get if they were mocking other religions.
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What this is, is this is homosexual infiltration, once again, of the church.
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They didn't even include the resurrection, any of the Christian themes.
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A bunch of liberal, you know, a bunch of liberals write up.
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This entire thing was designed to attack Christianity.
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Ernest, I saw you perform one of the great eye rolls in Uncensored History just then.
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There's absolutely zero chance that Hollywood would have staged a musical like this, which openly mocked the tenets of Islam, for example.
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I think that Jesus Christ Superstar and its creation, the whole title, the whole, have you ever seen it?
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Everything that you're saying would actually be argued that it's already been done.
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Like, no children are watching this to learn about Christ.
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The type of people that you're thinking of that would be offended by this would probably not even spend the kind of money to watch this show live
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and would not have any interest to watch it just because they know that it is an adult themed musical
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that is meant to be provocative since it was in its inception for decades.
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Just be honest and say, Andrew, it's meant to mock Christianity.
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Well, I mean, if you have a taste of satire and humor.
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I think a lot of people who know Cynthia Erivo, she sings gospel phenomenally well.
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She's an incredible singer and she's done several different types of shows and she has a range of that.
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And so for anybody who wants to take this seriously, make a culture war out of it.
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I don't think the argument here is that Christians are allergic to humor.
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It's clear that you would never do this with the Dalai Lama, for example, or with Muhammad.
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There's one group I've pissed off a lot of groups in my day.
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But if there's one group that I am not a fan of pissing off, that's I'm not even going to say their name because you guys scare me.
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I think that's where people take issue with it.
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And actually, the original Jesus Christ Superstar was quite consistent with what happened in the Bible in terms of the theology behind it.
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I mean, they could have at least put a wig on her.
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It's so weird seeing her have the crown of thorns on her head.
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They're clearly taking the mickey out of what actually happened.
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And on the point about the homosexual infiltration, I'm sorry, I just thought, I think the Catholic priests beat this play there a few decades ago on that front.
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Did they beat it like the public schools beat it?
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Who have hundreds of times the rate of sexual molestation of children?
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So, I mean, when you talk about predators, for instance, guess what?
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This is no exception for secular institutions like public schools.
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So, I don't know why you people use this as a talking point.
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They're claiming white people can't say great genes is exposing their inferiority complex.
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YouTube won't let me put white plus guilt together.
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I do think one of the best things about my religion is that we can laugh at ourselves.
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I often laugh at some of the absurdities of my own church, for example.
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And the fact that Christians have a better tolerance level for mockery than other religions is something to be proud of, isn't it?
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Well, I think all the comparisons to Islam are really silly stuff.
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And I'm going to say this as a practicing Catholic, if your faith is so fragile that you're offended about a black woman playing Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ superstar, you've got bigger problems than what was going on in the culture war.
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Second, we've heard a lot of, you know, frankly, some really weird comments about like homosexual infiltration of American society.
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Like Andrew over there is complaining about people praying on children.
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I haven't seen Andrew say anything about Donald Trump being in the Epstein files or releasing the Epstein files on here.
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Why do you want these people to destroy your theology if you're Catholic, sir?
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They're going after your theology on the public stage.
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They're taking out the resurrection, a romantic relationship between Jesus and Mary.
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What is wrong with you that your faith is so weak that a play in Hollywood, that's going to be sure.
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You are commanded to defend your faith, sir, as a Catholic.
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You're going to defend it by rolling over and letting them kick you while you're down, huh?
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And my faith is not going online and complaining about musicals and making it.
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No, I'm actually not complaining about it right now.
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Um, I just thought we'd watch that for a little bit.
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Um, but we got through the reaction kind of quick today.
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Um, I wanted to think if I had any other updates.
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If you guys have any requests for stuff to react to this week,
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we're going to go back to normal programming tomorrow.
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