Annoying Beta Male Gets KICKED OFF The Show
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Summary
In this episode of the podcast, we have a special guest on the show, a man who is a student at the University of Toronto, a musician, an academic, a writer, and an all-around great human being. In this episode, we discuss the concept of Prenatalism and how it can be applied to the modern world, and why men and women owe it to society to be the best versions of ourselves.
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and this is what prenatalism about it's about rethinking as a society what it means to be
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married to somebody what it needs to sacrifice for somebody because that's what i owe all of
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this to is her because she's given up so much for me i like this guy he's hard i don't know
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because it's a society i owe it to my wife but i haven't met her yet you know what i mean i haven't
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met her you owe it to your mom too though yeah but not just your wife you don't even have a wife
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listen and let me tell you where i'm coming from before i get kicked off the show
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yeah i'm not talking for humanity for myself you said my mom my mom's in the sky she's been dead
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for like seven years so be careful what you say and how you say it because each individual person
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are going through their own pains and their own mental brain processes are different everyone's
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not the same and that's all i want everyone to understand we're not the same everyone's trying
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to put us on the same playing field but we're not the same that's like water is wet the sky is blue
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you're talking in parables i don't care about parables parables parables water's wet black
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i don't really understand that okay the sky is blue but the sky is a reflection of the sea
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i do like can we go back to the point where like if we got help we would actually reproduce because for
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example you always see footballers at like 25 with bare kids yeah and it's because they can afford it
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they can actually give that child a really good life that they may never have had if i had money
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i would be on the hunt for a guy and i would be able to focus okay so no i don't think it's money
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i think it's that women throw themselves at these guys yeah
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i don't know come on yeah but it's so nice and easy saying let's reproduce but people can't afford
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that like okay i actually i want to let um pearl pearl this was exactly the second point i was starting
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a point and then this dude brilliantly hijacked my point twisted it into a new point presented a third
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point and got an applause for it so thanks for stealing my thunder he's a good dude um so the the
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question i postulate is do i do we men owe it to society to be the best versions of ourselves to
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produce useful labor to build institutions right and if the answer is yes because it gives us a
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purpose to aim for something higher why is it then that men owe it to society to build institutions
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because building institutions being reliable being of high character being of value of economic value to
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society what you do is you make money and by the way the stripes on my suit say make money for that
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purpose because it because it teaches you it's not it's not supposed to be as reductive as it
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seems it's very simple it just teaches you to be self-reliant and independent because it's a
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high purpose to shoot for to not have to rely on the government that's all that says it's like
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a freedom from government about relying on the government i said some people don't have the
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same opportunities as you maybe you grew up in a very nice i don't know i don't know listen i'm saying
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maybe right i'm very okay cool maybe you didn't stop i'm not done yet no let me finish this point
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i i grew up in a predominantly social housing ghetto neighborhood because i'm an immigrant
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from the soviet union and i ate at the food bank and it was embarrassing so what does that mean
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it means it means that i had a food bank to me what does that mean i'm not what does that mean
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guy that's guy that's dressed like a grasshopper stop interrupting bro what are you talking to me
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yes you're talking to me exactly so what hey what we do hey what we do let me let me let me
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let me mute his mic let me i've given you so many warnings please guys get rid of him
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pick up your comments no okay pick up your comment i love that but you see the button
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you're trying to press mute his mic please thank you mute my mic yeah no you have to go i've told you to stop
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um okay um dimitri go ahead anyway so so the aspiration for a man there has to be a higher
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purpose right i'm not saying that we're all you know the same and we have the same opportunity it's
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not that the idea is not that we have the same uh potential we all have different potentials you're
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probably a better musician than i am i'm not very creative right we have different potentials in
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academia we have different potential in the way we present ourselves we all have different potential
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right but the idea of being a productive and the idea of being productive and a man of value
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is that you have a higher purpose to aim for so pearl i want to answer your question do women
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owe it to society to have kids i'm not going to tell women what they owe or they don't know but the idea
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that if like a woman owes it to society to have kids that sets an extremely high bar of aspiration
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because it's so damn hard to have to be a productive enough person for a man to attract the woman
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who's got enough wisdom and and sagaciousness and long-term outlook and and by the way we talk
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about we don't owe anything anyone like like servitude it's a very high bar to have children
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is it not it is a high bar for yourself and that's aspirational and that's beautiful
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oh sorry can i don't you feel like there has to be like some sort of stability within you and your
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partner yeah by the way so for a second i take it on myself as a man that it is my job to bring
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stability and every and all the stoic literature and all the biblical literature says that it is up
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to a man to build institutions yes you do need stability and who's responsible for that so i aim
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for the bar the high bar is a man that i can be productive and bring stability so that i give a woman
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a safe place to have children yeah so multiple things can be true one thing we've talked a lot about
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here it's the cost of raising children you know and i think two things can be true
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simultaneously one thing that is just true across countries is the less money you have typically
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the more kids you have um and this only really reverses when the family's income is over half a
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million a year then it starts to go up again but you know that's that's a lot of money um but it's
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also true that you have to make enormous sacrifices and it is enormously costly to have a kid in our
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society and i actually think that half a million mark that's the market which people don't really have
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to make sacrifices anymore to have kids so when you're dealing with below that level i think a question
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that we need to ask ourselves when people say having kids is expensive what they mean is having
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kids is expensive without significantly changing my lifestyle my wife and i we could be earning a lot
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more money than we do but we live in like a farm you know um and and that is because it was cheaper to
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raise kids out there um and so the cultural groups that do have high fertility you know often there's
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these religious people call them religious extremists weirdos or whatever right like they're weird and
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that they are different from the urban monoculture and that they are different from the dominant
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cultures in our society and that's how we judge weirdness um and uh uh they they one of the things
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that makes them weird is choosing lifestyles uh that are significantly below the lifestyle they could
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live based on what they earn because they believe there are things more important than than showing
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off how great they are to the world it's like a more selfless culture is what you're saying
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can i um right absolutely who said something can i bring up something that you said earlier on
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obviously about obviously when you're bringing in kids you want to obviously give them the best
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and stuff what about the people who obviously do have kids and they can't give them the best
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that was a choice yeah i do and yeah obviously it is a choice they can't give them the best these kids
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are suffering but what is the best because you know we have all this money in the west and we really have
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a higher standard of living than like any time in human history but people are more depressed than
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ever and even like there's a clip that just went viral of kim kardashian um her her daughter north
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right and north is talking about how she prefers to be at kanye's house because at kanye's house
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there's no chef there's no she's like i don't like the chef i want to get there's no security there i
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just want to go to dad's house yeah so it's like you know these kids can have everything but if they
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don't have what matters i grew up can i say something yeah i grew up in jamaica in like
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the countryside so it was very poor i saw knife crime violence sex just my parents used to sell
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drugs so i could eat all this type of stuff my dad was a fisherman like we was poor we didn't have much
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we lived in little board houses all of that and i had the best upbringing ever my parents are rastafarians
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they used to take me to the hot springs the healing waters they're taking me to all like the rastafarian
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events i was living my best life all i remembered from my childhood was getting fish like basically
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cooking with my dad on the cold stove outside we're going to the hot springs them dancing together
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that's all i remember was the time spent so i just feel like the western world we just have so much
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stimuli being thrown at us that we just we're confused about every single aspect of our lives from down to
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our agenda when we're made to have kids our bodies where this makes things so complicated when you
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return to a simpler life if you unlearn to learn return to a more simpler form of living you realize
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that there's so much joy in just actually having love and