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- October 19, 2023
ARE 304s WORTHLESS? | THE PREGAME SHOW EP 152
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2 hours and 47 minutes
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32,887
Sentence Count
15
Misogynist Sentences
225
Hate Speech Sentences
125
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of course pelt daily so today i am joined by a lovely panel of guests and today we're going to
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talk about the topic of promiscuity promiscuity uh more importantly the topic of are hoes worthless in
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today's society so i'm going to go around the room first of all um and ask you all to introduce
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yourself go ahead yes hi there uh my name is danika i'm 30 years old i'm from london um and yes
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hi my name is emma i'm 23 i'm originally from australia but now living in london
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hi my name is
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yeah go ahead oh yeah it's aj's reactions uh i react to stuff
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oh okay have you got a youtube channel yeah tiktok instagram a little bit of everything
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cool yo yo guys your boy like romeo the plug official romeo 27 i'm outside i'm back at
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the audacity network yes i'm part of the network and yeah i'm here let's go amazing um and what's
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everyone's relationship status i forgot to ask oh all right single single same engaged oh congratulations
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how long have you been engaged oh am i in a relationship um what's that i'm in something
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man i guess okay anyway so yeah the topic today is is promiscuity a form of empowerment for
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young women um not just young women women of all ages really um so i want to go around the
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room and i want to get all your guys thoughts is promiscuity so being promiscuous whether
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it be sexual partners or whether it just be online um is it a form of female empowerment
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or does it enhance sexual objectification i'm going to start here and go around um i mean
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i think it's defined differently you know i mean each woman in each different generation
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can see something like being promiscuous differently yes it can be used as a form of art to get attention
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uh in reality or you know be a certain way but i think it's now completely changed with younger
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generations especially with social media coming on boards that has changed the game completely
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because you can compare it to 50 years ago someone can be have a natural way with their physicality
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with their words with their way of being now with social media i think it's become it's become
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normalized in a sense i mean i don't agree with it or disagree with it i think it's a part of
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a woman's nature um i come from a psychology background but it just kind of analyzing i think
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it's within women's nature to naturally be like that in a way it's within women's nature to be
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promiscuous but yes but not not in a way of sexualizing it because you're you're when we say
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being promiscuous we instantly associate it being sexual sexual right can it be something that's
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non-sexual being promiscuous well i think the definition of promiscuous specifically regards
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sexual behavior right um so i mean do you want to elaborate on on what kind of behavior you're
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talking about because yeah i mean it can i mean men can perceive it differently i guess women can
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perceive it differently um there is that sexual connotation to it but the element of it being
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over sexualized has changed recently so i mean yeah like i said i think women tend to do it it's
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become normalized because of social media i don't agree with it but i think there's a nature there's
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something within us that naturally is like that maybe it's for evolutional reasons or whatever what
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is it that you don't agree with in what aspects so which bit you said that promiscuity
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has been enhanced yeah what do i not agree with it because it's become normalized
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and why do you think that's a bad thing uh i mean it's it's a bad thing because a woman doesn't
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know what she's doing from a young age and can be put in positions that she can be endangered
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may it be in on online may it be physically you know out if you're out in a bar and you're flirting
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with a guy um things can escalate i don't think women really know what it is themselves at a certain
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age point okay interesting we'll come back okay yes it's similar to what she said um i think it's
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it's very much so who perceives what so women that like like just like you know with the whole body
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confidence and so forth so a lot of the time people like to show like if especially if they say they
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work out a lot and they want to show like their before and after pictures or they want to show their
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bikinis or they show their like their body like i think women tend to do that because they want to
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show what they're proud of whereas if a woman's always posting photos of themselves with you know
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their bums out and their bodies out men may may perceive that as a what like a oh she's you know
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trying to get a lot of male attention she's trying to over sexualize herself and maybe that not be the
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case i mean i guess one could argue that do they have to share it on a public instagram profile if
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they're proud of it can't they just share it with their friends and family i mean do you think that
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that comes into it at all or do you think that people should just accept that people want to share that
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kind of thing i think if this was maybe like 20 years ago that would have been yeah you keep that
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between your friends your family the ones that close to you but now social media has just taken
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over the world completely so even if you're going out for a dinner you want to show the fries that
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you're eating people post that if you want to show wherever you're staying people post that like
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everything's posted now so there's no sense of privacy the only time someone's private is when they
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choose to be private but a lot of the time people don't want to be private anymore why do you think
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that is why don't you why do you think i just think that's just the way that that social media
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kind of just made it especially for the younger generation that's all they know so like people
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that may be the like the early 20s to late late 20s early 30s they understand that social media
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wasn't a massive thing when i was five or six years old how old are you again sorry 23 23 so i i don't
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think social media was a massive thing till i was maybe like 13 14 15 yeah i'm the same age as you
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yeah i'd say about so around that age it became a massive thing but whereas the children now
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at the age of five six all they know is social media tick tock this and that youtube whatever
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so from that age onwards that's all they're gonna know is just post this post that especially with
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parents giving that to them at a young age it's just the privacy starts from a young age so okay
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yeah i would personally need first of all the definition of this word because i don't understand
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uh so to to be promiscuous um is to be sort of very sexually out there um so for example oh there
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we go we've got the definition great king is on it today i can't say that word promiscuity having or
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involving many sexual partners not restricted to one sexual partner or few sexual partners
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not restricted to one class or person all right and what was the question again so is promiscuity
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female promiscuity specifically does it promote female empowerment or does it promote sexual
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objectification of women well i think that's a difficult question especially in our society now to
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response if it's right or not i will not do that tonight but what i would say is that
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in um in a biologic way or scientific way it tends to be more destructive for women to have this kind
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of behavior but at the end of the day you are you you do what you want what you feel is make you happy
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and uh yeah that's all i have to say about this
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um um if we just ask me the question one more time so promiscuity female promiscuity does it promote
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female empowerment or does it promote the objectification of women all right so essentially
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is female promiscuity good or bad for women so look if you want to feel empowered by throwing your
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cheeks around do your thing that's entirely up to you i'm not going to judge my only problem
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with calling it female empowerment is you get to the point where you want to be loved by somebody
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you want to have good relationships if you've been throwing your cheeks around and a person turns
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around you and says hey i don't want you because you threw your cheeks around
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what if you're deeply in love and you don't care no you're not gonna you're not gonna wife you're
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not gonna wife you hold all right but there are men that have done that there are men that are
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wifed a porn star for example oh that's you know how long does that last i don't know i'm just i'm
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just throwing it out that because obviously men prefer women that are let's say less sexually active
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whatever which makes sense and i agree with that ideology but the reality of today is a whole
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different story and so what do we do why because i don't know society's a bit fucked up it has been
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for years and years and years and each generation keeps getting worse so here we are having this
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conversation you know as i said if you feel like throwing around your cheeks yes it's female
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empowerment do your thing what it can't matter has nothing to do with me just don't be upset if the man
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that you want to court says hey i don't want a million bodies
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that's it why don't be upset why is it that that guys care so much about body count about
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promiscuity what is it that that's a turn off because a key that can open many doors
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it's a master key preach to get let that one sink in right there okay but if it's the other way
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around it's just it's just a shit lock if any key can open it's a shit lock no i think you're
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defining that it's different it's different it's different for women and men like you can't
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like you always look at a woman's body count in it i don't know what it is but that body count
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actually does matter on on a woman's part for men it's different isn't it is it just the thought
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of that woman that you're seeing or dating or interested in the fact that they've been with
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so many men is that just off-putting just another man having her hands on her is that what it is
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is that like i'm confused are you are you fight are you fighting are you fighting i'm asking questions
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so quick question are you fighting around because you're pushing back against us are you fighting for
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women to throw their cheeks around no i'm not but i want to understand that the male psyche
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you behind that do you throw your cheeks around well serious endeavor that's a private question
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oh god damn it but did you see this is my problem so yeah you're obviously saying oh yeah it's fine
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no i'm not saying it's fine you're not saying it's fine i'm not listen you're not saying it's fine
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i'm not saying it's fine about i'm trying to understand it i think she's trying to play devil's
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advocate to see how strong your story is yeah exactly oh is that what we do how strong your
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justification is because what do you mean my justification is literally if you want to
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throw cheeks around i get what you're saying i i completely hear what you're saying i want to
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know any of the ladies on the couch do you agree or do you disagree that it's different for for men
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and women i disagree because i think that there is obviously a difference between men and women but
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uh as a man it i mean it can look as well negative that you are sleeping around and some some of us
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don't want you to so what's the problem with a guy being promiscuous from the female perspective
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as well it shows first of all lack of confidence lack of control uh lack of leadership and uh yeah just a
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general man's body you said community dick is lack of confidence yeah expand expand expand that one for
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me please just just just let's let's let's get into it expand that one for me as of my point of view
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is that a man is supposed to lead in general biologically naturally or whatever and uh
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i don't even know how to really pull it out in in english it's a little bit difficult for me
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but you not being able to make one woman happy and you need the validation all those women by not
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committing to something it's already a sign of lack of confidence because one woman already it's a lot
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of work it's a lot of commitment it it's a lot of thing on a daily basis with the kids
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it's it's like it's again another but are you referring to uh in the context of a relationship
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or do you just mean a guy who sleeps around with a lot of women so where i would say a guy who is in
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a relationship or is not um it can it can as if you dig them dig down to it it can just mean that the
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person lack of confidence sorry sorry do you mean do you mean lack of control or lack of confidence
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both control and confidence leadership and self-esteem but if if a man if a man is capping
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multiple cheeks he's clearly got enough confidence to approach a lot of these women to even get in
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that situation in general i will say the same thing for women as well if she has the capacity to bend down
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all those men but what i think you mean is that the man has just a lack of self-control no i don't
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think you mean he has a lack of confidence because a lack of confidence would not allow a man to
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approach a multitude of women what i mean is lack of confidence and control but both of them how can
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it be a lack of confidence if a man is able to approach the women and bed them i mean is it
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possible actually to make fully happy a woman one woman is this very difficult so you're talking about
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men and women are wired very differently unfortunately you know i mean our our hormones are very different
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i understand what you're saying biologically it is what it is you mean testosterone in men
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functions differently right and then women can turn around and and say well actually i don't like guys
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that are inexperienced i don't know what they're doing but then at the same time they can argue
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the other side of well you know so it's a difficult place it's a difficult question to really answer
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to be honest with you yeah but at the end of the day um that we even consider it that it plays as
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well in the minds uh in the cycle of a man to continue to do this kind of but men boys don't become
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men until later stages and women you have to understand that as well physically and mentally ladies
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let me let me ask you this question ladies would you date a virgin no would you date a virgin no
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well yeah that's my point would you date a virgin yes or no it's the pen for flip's sake man why in
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the middle well you you are straight no why not you want a man of confidence no at the same time i think
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you know i feel like in a relationship obviously the sexual part of it is quite important may not be in
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all relationships but i think a majority is so i think especially say i think in that sense you
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want to be somewhat satisfied and obviously like some people like i feel like a guy would like to
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say a virgin because like obviously it's like oh she's got no body count like she doesn't have
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body count i can teach her what to do whereas women like again we'd like to kind of be led as well
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so in that sense is like you know if you're acting masculine all day you don't want to be acting
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masculine in the bedroom with your man like that's just that's just that's just not on sorry but
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no that makes sense and you also said definitely not is it the same kind of reason um i just don't
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have patience to be teaching other people i want to be taught not in a sexual aspect i mean in a general
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aspect if and if i'm interested in a man it's because i want to be led let's say knowledge energy
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whatever it is a virgin because he is a virgin is then attached with let's say experience socially
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uh whatever do you mean there are they're at a certain point not because of the sexual aspect
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of it because of the point in their life that it ties she wants a man of confidence yeah but nothing
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says as well that mr virgin that we're talking about um doesn't have the capacity to become a man
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no he can become a member i'm sure he'll meet another virgin and they'll get on do you mean everybody
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vibrates in different energies and there are different points in their lives you know there
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is an exception in every single society you want someone with a clean slate what does that mean so
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so as as these lot said they don't want to date a virgin but you are a little bit melancholy in
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regards to it you technically wouldn't i said it's depend so it can be yes so in some situations depending
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on the person yeah exactly that's why i said that's why i said you're melancholy and also all the factor that's
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uh you know that that makes the person depending on it i'm going to say yes or no okay so you don't
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mind having to teach someone that's an experience you don't mind that that's okay i mean it's depend
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like i said it's depend there's a lot of factor that comes with it so what are the some factors that
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come into it what does it depend on first of all um i will respect the the the man uh regardless of him
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being a virgin um having leadership skills being a person who is confident and when that is on point
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i believe that when it comes to the sexual part even though he is um on this i don't know how to say
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that even though he doesn't have experience he will have a lot of confidence to get to understand and
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maybe have more patience and also better understanding than a person who already
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fucked up um his um mind with uh sorry porn and uh um all those major experiences yeah i mean
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porn subjects aside uh i think you're i think you're making a bit of a mistake with the differences
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between men and women so a guy could sleep i am very clear with what i'm saying maybe it's the way i'm
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putting out but i'm not changing my mind that's fair enough but the point that i'm trying to make
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is that men and women are very different when it comes to sex a guy could sleep with a lot of girls
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and have no emotional connection to any of those girls yeah i understand that point but i'm still
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saying that it is still detrimental you know it's a fact that what you just say is uh proved by science
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but it's a fact as well that uh on a long term if you continue on that road it will still have the
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same effect that it can have on a woman not the same thing but you know is i will never say that
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um a woman should not sleep around and a man can because uh it's false but that they have less effect
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on a man it's just proven by science did you say that's proven by science yeah biologically no she's
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agreeing that uh men i think you're talking about what i'm talking about which is pair bonding so
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men's ability to pair bond does start to decline but it's at a very different rate to women so
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a woman it's about five bodies so after a woman has gone above five bodies uh her ability to pair
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bond to a partner is decreased for a man it's like a way higher number i don't have the specific number
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but it might be something like 50 or something um but obviously that's because men biologically
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are built to spread their seed whereas for women it's a bit different although i did see a study
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recently that suggested women are more polyamorous but that's i haven't looked into it so anyway i want
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to revert back to you all mentioned earlier when i mentioned promiscuity you all pretty much spoke
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about social media um so i want to delve more into the social media aspect um the social media
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promote promiscuity do you think do you think it encourages people to be promiscuous online
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absolutely i mean when you look at the history sex has all sold right anything that's been sexualized
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even let's say in the 50s with cigarettes majority of the adverts had sexy ladies smoking because it's
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associated with an oral form do you know i mean smoking um so sexuality has always been a part of
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let's say cells or driving a motive or changing our minds or perspectives now social media when that
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came into into place gradually in the beginning it wasn't i mean i'm 30 years old in the beginning we
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we didn't really post that many you know saucy photos and all of a sudden when the business aspect
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became a part of instagram and i'm sure you we all remember when you know instagram was just simple
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posting things now you've got ads you can sell things it's changed completely now it's marketed
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on vulnerable women in my opinion that has now that have now come on social media they've grown
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up with with a let's say a young mindset they are young they're seeing older women more attractive
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women doing and having a certain behavioral pattern and they've thought that's okay because
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their parents don't know what they're looking at or their friends and their peers have the same
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mentality so i think each generation has grown up with uh with normalizing showing your body on
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social media and now it's obviously capitalized and instagram facebook everything has is now making
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money from women posting sexy photos and then you can argue yes women wanna do that but unfortunately
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they're not realizing that they're teaching the next generation the wrong thing and yeah i think
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it's been capitalized hugely well what is it that's wrong about it in your opinion i mean what
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selling um your body online what's wrong with that i mean i think it should be i mean there's a lot
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of things wrong wrong with it i think morally it's not correct and that's my simplest answer just
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morally it's not correct okay yeah definitely i think so like um basing on what she said just then like
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sex sells so i think especially now because instagram is a lot of people and businesses promote a lot of
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their you know brands and so forth on it sex sells so they're gonna want to have good looking people
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or you know girls are kind of you know attractive and so forth may not be to that extent and obviously
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we're not speaking about business and in this we're speaking about promiscuity but since when i was a
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child to now the way that you know social media is it's yeah there's a massive massive change in what
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people actually generally share um and even if you just go in your like even count 10 posts
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eight out of 10 posts someone naked or there's someone you know showing something um even if it's
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not themselves there's something that's a bit more you know on the sexual sides of of anything so and what
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do you think of that do you think that that's a good thing or a bad thing just in your personal opinion
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not whether it's you know the public opinion what do you make of that again i think i think
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i think it is it does play on morals as well some people may feel confident to show a lot some people
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may not it's insecurities as well you have to remember women we all have a lot of insecurities so
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i think a lot of younger women are going out their way for validation through likes through of course
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you know people wake up they're like oh how many likes do i have and that for me is absurd for me it's
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absurd that someone can rely their happiness or their self-confidence on the amount of views and
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lines that they have that for me is a very alien thing but it's a real thing yeah definitely so the
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motive is now connected with views and likes and posting more so it's correct so it's basically like
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awarding unconsciously it's being like a woman's being awarded by likes by posting more and more and more
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so it carries on in a way yeah i also think in a way a lot of um of this generation's self-worth um
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self-worth comes from social media so it's like i i want to see how much i can get i want to see the
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likes of views whatever i can get and that if i can hit this amount or if i can get change my mood
00:25:48.300
but if i get if i post something that it gets 50 likes that won't be like wow that's low well
00:25:55.580
in this generation it is when you're seeing other people other celebrities other influencers or just
00:25:59.340
even normal people getting six seven hundred and you're posting a photo that you think you look
00:26:04.220
nice in and you're getting 50 and you're comparing it to someone else who's got a different photo
00:26:09.420
they're going to be like oh they people girls especially love to compare themselves unfortunately
00:26:14.300
that's just how it is they're always going to compare themselves to kylie jenner or whoever so
00:26:19.260
i think just even just the subconscious thing that we just generally will always compare
00:26:23.340
yeah adiola you're you're laughing along there what's your thoughts
00:26:26.380
no it's just because i couldn't really relate with this but yeah i understand because um but
00:26:34.300
what i do not compare myself with kindly jenner i believe we're two different but unfortunately
00:26:39.820
majority of women are i don't either i don't follow celebrities i don't really care about that world
00:26:45.420
but unfortunately young we have to think about other people and unfortunately it's become a real
00:26:49.020
thing of our society where what kylie jenner says and does affect people that for me is absurd
00:26:54.300
but it is the reality that we live in unfortunately yeah so can i ask you one more time what is the
00:26:59.740
question um so the question is does social media promote female promiscuities does it encourage it
00:27:07.180
of course yeah as well social media is definitely a platform to promote a lot of things businesses or
00:27:14.620
whatever you want to promote and um i mean i believe that when it comes to sexuality it is a great way to
00:27:23.980
do publicity whenever whatever whatever topic it is so um yeah i believe that the social media is
00:27:32.460
becoming more and more sexual and um and do you think that's a good or a bad thing yeah um
00:27:39.900
um obviously there there is some danger in that because some people will say that it's good because
00:27:48.300
there is body positivity in them but at the same time it will come as well with some recuperation
00:27:55.420
or how do you say with some bad repercussions yeah so i i want to uh before coming to the lads to get your
00:28:03.420
opinion on this um i want to get your guys thoughts on body positivity what does it mean to you and and
00:28:09.980
what's your thoughts of it um what's body positivity um i mean because we hear this a lot with i mean
00:28:17.820
i don't mean is this what people are using these days to say but because i haven't really heard it in
00:28:23.020
this time so a lot of people who come on here um and uh obviously when pal's hosting she might put it
00:28:28.620
slightly different to how i put it but you know they they say you know i i like to show my body online
00:28:33.260
um i like to share it with the world because it's body positivity and it's this whole idea of uh
00:28:38.620
confidence and self-love and self-worth um and i think unfortunately we're being led a lot by a lot
00:28:45.980
of mentally ill people because when you look at a lot of agendas that are completely destroying people's
00:28:52.140
morals this can fall into that same category now someone being sexual and promiscuous online that is then
00:29:02.860
awarded in a way unconsciously to that person for them to believe that it's a correct behavior
00:29:08.220
that goes to show you mean a lot of people have a lot to work within themselves in my opinion so that
00:29:13.900
comes from a lot of trauma a woman that is very okay with that has to be so delusional in a form of
00:29:20.300
protection so they've come from trauma they've come from something that they have to they become that
00:29:25.580
deluded for them to feel positive for showing their body online you know and i i just look at it in a
00:29:32.940
very vulnerable way because i feel sorry for these women it's not that i attack them i don't look down
00:29:37.180
at them i don't i don't agree what they're doing like only fans girls i don't disagree with what
00:29:41.260
they're doing but it's a shame that they're doing that because they don't realize how traumatized or hurt
00:29:46.220
and how much healing they need to do for them to actually grasp the idea of them to think about what it's
00:29:52.060
like in the future them looking back on their actions because you can't undo especially anything
00:29:56.940
on online they made loads of money though yeah but money comes and goes that's the problem people
00:30:01.020
don't understand money is motivated money is can be evil in my opinion depends on the person i think
00:30:07.020
it can be a very evil thing money comes and goes so that's not what life is all about making money
00:30:12.300
it isn't so so if you exploit a behavior and you make loads of money off of it but i wouldn't
00:30:17.180
exploit it a behavior that's incorrect i'm not talking about you but i'm saying we're the only
00:30:21.420
fans girls if you if you exploit a behavior and you make loads of money off it and all of a sudden
00:30:26.860
the behavior you've grown out of it and now you're in a different state where your mind isn't all too
00:30:31.580
there yeah exactly who is who is really to blame for that is it it's not about that or or is it you
00:30:37.900
i mean like where where does what i want to know is where does the accountability come in
00:30:41.980
like when when do we when do we look at ourselves and be like rah this madness happened to me in my
00:30:46.780
life but i'm not gonna go and do an absolute madness to other people because it can potentially
00:30:52.300
affect everybody it doesn't make any sense where do we where do we get to the part where we're like
00:30:56.860
okay this madness happened to you we get it that doesn't mean you go and then do the same
00:31:02.220
madness to other people where does the accountability come in in this situation there's so many factors
00:31:06.060
i think i think socially economically there's so many things that are in play to a woman's when a woman
00:31:12.700
for example if a woman has children and and she's a single mother okay but at the same time yes she
00:31:18.540
needs to feed her kids but if she really wanted to feed her kids she would get up and work her ass off
00:31:23.020
in my opinion i come from a refugee family that came here from a war i know what it is like to
00:31:29.340
come from nothing do you know what i mean i know what what that means so unfortunately women are
00:31:34.300
seeing this as an easy option but not really understanding the consequences in the future
00:31:38.300
you said that you uh you know that it's a shame and that they've been through trauma and all of that
00:31:43.020
which i i i agree i i think ultimately that there's a void in themselves that they're trying to
00:31:48.380
fill something outside of themselves without knowing unfortunately most of the time
00:31:53.020
i've thought that for a long time okay what i'm now starting to believe it's just willful ignorance
00:31:58.140
um but oh okay perhaps we won't get into a philosophical debate my question my question
00:32:03.740
for you is is uh you said you know it's a shame it's trauma all of that stuff so why do you not
00:32:09.420
disagree with it you said you don't you don't disagree with them doing it i don't listen someone's
00:32:16.620
opinion i can't understand someone's background of doing it so i can't judge somebody on that basis of
00:32:21.580
me just understanding certain facts about an individual i don't agree with it in a whole in
00:32:26.620
a bigger perspective i don't agree with women selling their bodies online or so you do disagree
00:32:31.260
with i do disagree with what women are doing yes right okay but i'm just trying to sound why
00:32:36.140
but at the same time i do the same thing i try and psychoanalyze everything but i think ultimately
00:32:41.340
in society the only way we're going to move forward is if we have clear definitions about things because i
00:32:45.580
think at the moment we live in a world where everything has become and as much as i hate the word
00:32:50.700
fluid everything is a mess right now and we seem to have lost the definitions to things and i think
00:32:57.020
you know we seem to have gone overboard with this concept of tolerance the idea of you know you can
00:33:03.260
do what you want and live and let live it's like okay well how far does that go because if we stop
00:33:07.980
judging each other how do we decide who's a criminal but those people are then affecting
00:33:13.660
our environment our do you mean people in general online yeah somebody at that do you mean let's
00:33:20.060
say someone has loads of followers and has younger women following them listening to their bullshit and
00:33:24.940
their absolute nonsense that is then affecting us not directly but indirectly yeah and it's affecting
00:33:30.380
the next generation absolutely and where is the stock again where does the accountability come in
00:33:36.140
i'm going to ask this again because all of us in here probably that individual has to take
00:33:40.700
accountability for themselves no but this is this is what i'm saying it sounds like it sounds like
00:33:43.820
we're making excuses here because when we're listening to rap music the vast majority of
00:33:46.940
people that listen to rap music aren't going out and doing road not going out and stabbing people
00:33:52.140
they're not going out shooting people they're not going out doing bootings they're not they're not
00:33:56.220
going out scamming they're definitely not having a great time one second one second they're not
00:34:01.980
going out doing all of these all these different things no no no you're talking about a small
00:34:05.580
minority of people that are doing it otherwise if a large majority of people that listen to rap
00:34:09.260
again one of the biggest genres in the world the whole world would be in turn more music music
00:34:13.580
and a woman's body are two different things no but what i'm trying to what i'm trying to show you is
00:34:18.060
where does the accountability come in what i'm trying to show you is i'm trying to give you well what's
00:34:21.740
your opinion where do you think i think he's talking about the fact that you said there's multiple
00:34:25.740
factors that come into it and you said that effect what he's trying to say is that ultimately it is
00:34:32.060
the woman's decision if she decides to do that this is what i'm saying like when it when it comes to
00:34:35.740
man and listening to all this music they're not going out and doing all this type of stuff there's
00:34:38.940
a vast majority of men that listen to rap music that don't go on to be murderers drug dealers
00:34:42.940
all this type of stuff in general so where do we like where do we like look at the situation and be
00:34:49.420
like bro there needs to be some accountability taken for the person again i completely understand
00:34:54.620
that you might have a situation that's completely messed up every single person not every single
00:35:00.460
person but a lot of people have worse situations than you and they have not gone into doing things
00:35:05.420
that are going to denigrate their own community so i'm going to ask again when do we say to the
00:35:10.220
people that are doing all this stuff where's your accountability i get your hurt that's fine i
00:35:16.380
understand your hurt i understand think people have done madnesses to you but there's also a bunch of
00:35:20.700
other people that have been through those same things and instead of them going and denigrating
00:35:25.340
their community what do they do they try to be martyrs to make sure that things like that don't
00:35:30.060
happen to other people they try to educate people they try to teach people wagwan this that and blah
00:35:35.340
blah blah but when it comes to us talking about like you know women and their bad behavior it's
00:35:40.860
like we we it's like we just can't say hey just be accountable just stop yeah be accountable you
00:35:46.140
i get it your life might have been mad but bro you selling your cheeks on only fans for less than
00:35:50.380
a big mac is not my problem what are we doing here yeah what are we doing here or delusional
00:35:57.420
there's delusion and i wanted to believe this for a really long time or just just stupidity
00:36:01.980
should we just basically just loads of stupid people have just affected our society is this
00:36:06.140
what it comes down to i think that takes away from accountability no i'm saying isn't stupidity a
00:36:11.660
personal problem i don't know they just need to be like i don't know i'm right i'm just saying
00:36:17.740
stupidity is a personal problem if you're being it is a personal problem and you're making them
00:36:21.100
decisions i have a question for the people who are talking about account accountability yeah um
00:36:27.740
do you mean that those uh women who do this kind of things or this kind of work they are not taking
00:36:35.180
that country like they they are not conscious that they are doing it or what do you mean about
00:36:39.260
they're conscious but they're in delusion they're conscious but what i'm trying to say is
00:36:44.140
if i go out god forbid and i've had a bad day at work and i punch someone in the face regardless
00:36:50.700
whether or not i had a bad day at work i still punch someone in the face that's what i'm talking
00:36:54.380
about in terms of accountability so don't go out do your madness because we've seen a lot of only
00:36:58.940
fans turn reverts right now yeah they're getting to the point where covid is done now sorry bovid is
00:37:04.780
done now whatever it is yeah that's all done now and the man they make buying the only fans no more
00:37:11.100
they're not doing that no more do you get me they've got things to do they've actually got to go
00:37:13.980
work x y and z and now you see a bunch of reverse that were like oh no let me throw that ass in a
00:37:18.940
circle and online blah blah going oh i found jesus and i've come back to the line i found jesus i wish i
00:37:28.540
didn't do it i wish i didn't do this and they're trying to warn people against it and it's like okay cool
00:37:32.540
that's beautiful you've got until it is they're fucked and then they're trying to play just see
00:37:36.220
what i'm saying and it's like it's like but when you can't go back when when when the price of the
00:37:39.740
fans is going down yeah yeah it's not remember the fans is not 30 40 bucks you know it's not none of
00:37:47.020
them things in there it's a big mac 6.99 it's a big mac 5.99 so so when when the price starts going from a
00:37:56.140
big mac to a little happy meal 1.99 you know you lost the confidence that you had that was up here
00:38:03.500
when you had a bunch of different things doing x y and z it's now completely down here who is to
00:38:07.340
blame in that can you imagine how they feel right now didn't you say earlier that you're you're not
00:38:12.220
going to judge you can do what you want i don't judge my only thing is don't complain have you ever
00:38:17.340
subscribed no the hub is free you know oh yeah it's a bit it's a bit murked as well it's like
00:38:33.180
how can i explain it it's the fact that you can't get someone that you want that makes people subscribe
00:38:37.420
to only fans i think because they can go to the hub and get all the content that they want
00:38:41.100
but some man them are out here and they're just simps for this specific person and that's the reason
00:38:45.740
why only fans does so well again i think only fans is a trap was a trap for vulnerable people
00:38:51.180
to then to be capitalized on that's how i see it it's just a very vulnerable person in the scenario
00:38:56.220
people that women young women or no matter what age they are women that what about the men who are
00:39:01.340
losing their money hold on do you mean the people that put their email address in their first name
00:39:04.460
and their last name and their bank details to get the money listen vulnerable people aren't going to
00:39:07.900
process and see the baits we might from this perspective they they literally fell into a very
00:39:14.860
obvious trap to get into it to making quick money that's how they perceived it to survive
00:39:19.980
or to make money or whatever i see that as a trap i feel like the platform only fans was a trap for a
00:39:26.300
lot of vulnerable women if if if if the trap has five different steps i'm sorry you might have deserved
00:39:33.260
it in the beginning your last name your email address your bank details you then got to create the
00:39:40.940
page content content and then you got to take the content you got to post it on other social
00:39:45.500
i don't mean it like that if you need to tell me you got trapped after seven steps i'm saying the
00:39:51.180
platform itself the existence of whatever only fans represents was set up for a trap to capitalize
00:39:58.060
on women from women could willingly sign up why are we not saying that they didn't know what they're
00:40:02.780
doing i'm talking about the actual business concept but it's not a trap if you know it's not a trap if
00:40:07.340
you know a vulnerable woman a woman that thinks okay hold on let me when a woman's delusional
00:40:12.940
she's not going to think properly is she she's gonna be like okay cool i see an opportunity to
00:40:16.140
make money let me go and sign up let me do what i have to do you're not understanding what i mean by
00:40:20.460
trap why can't they go and get a normal job well they should that's my point i'm saying i'm looking at
00:40:26.140
the whole business setup of what only fans represent if you think about it it was it was initially created
00:40:33.420
knowing targeting certain women but again aren't you taken away from the accountability of the
00:40:39.420
women to realize that they're the ones they are realizing but they're not realizing it to the
00:40:43.260
full extent until it's too late now that you're saying there's a lot of women have come out of
00:40:47.820
it saying but that's what i'm saying that's a them problem so again i ask the question where does the
00:40:52.860
accountability come in i think i think most of them take accountability with what they're doing i think
00:40:59.020
they're very conscious of what they're doing so the problem with accountability i still didn't get
00:41:03.820
it because i i never saw a woman that do certain kind of jobs uh coming on the internet and start
00:41:11.020
acting like a victim i don't i don't think that she's conscious about what she's doing and she's
00:41:17.020
she's probably proud of it and it's just you know confident in what she's doing the accountability comes
00:41:22.940
in when you see these women that do only fans and all of that and then they come out and they say
00:41:28.380
they deserve a certain kind of man all right so you you fail to realize that the moment you get into
00:41:35.580
something like that you don't then deserve what you think you do no matter how how confident in
00:41:41.180
yourself you feel no matter how well you think you attend or whatever the reality is you you deserve what
00:41:47.980
you get in life and you deserve what you get from the actions that you do in life so whenever i see
00:41:54.220
women come out and say oh yeah i did only fast and this and that but i still deserve a man that makes
00:41:59.500
six figures that can provide for me and do a lot of this and that it just shows me that you you don't
00:42:03.340
have accountability and you you don't even you're never self-aware to yeah delusional to realize what
00:42:08.860
you've put yourself into so i have a question do only fans models models models individuals
00:42:23.180
girls who basically haul themselves out online for money do they deserve the same kind of men that
00:42:27.020
girls who don't do are they entitled to the same type of man as i will say it's possible now so you
00:42:36.540
think a girl who has literally gotten completely butt naked online for as much as we said uh a big
00:42:45.180
mac meal you you think that that's the same as a girl who hasn't you think that they can get the same
00:42:52.460
kind of man can you repeat again the question because i feel i didn't follow so a girl who does only fans
00:42:59.340
so gets naked online for the same amount of money as a burger you think she's entitled to the same
00:43:06.220
man as say a girl who hasn't done that like a nine-to-five woman you think that they're entitled
00:43:11.820
to the same man i mean it's dependent for example for example yourself compared to our own friends
00:43:18.380
girl are you both entitled to the same guy it can be possible so this is the problem i have when they
00:43:26.940
say this because you're looking at it from a woman's point of view so you're looking at you're looking at
00:43:31.820
it from the point of view that benefits women but now if you want to look at it from a man's point of
00:43:36.940
view if you had a son would you want him to date a woman that has been putting her body online
00:43:46.060
i was give again the same reason because um it's depend if the woman is uh it depends i'm saying i'm
00:43:54.380
giving my response and my response is that if that girl is uh is doing it as said that she is doing
00:44:01.900
it and uh personally the way i see things is going uh with the type of content she is putting out i'm
00:44:08.940
not comfortable with it no but if she was doing it and uh there was a lot of time that passed or maybe
00:44:16.620
she is into something else and i feel like men are so short-tempered they don't look at the details
00:44:21.260
they just look at the obvious things they see that you're only fans or you're not you're the
00:44:25.260
normal girl or you're not whatever normal means no yeah they're very simple we're even we're being
00:44:30.380
to we're trying to get into i'm just saying if you had a son and you heard that he's dating a girl
00:44:37.740
who has been having sex online selling her body online and he comes home and tells you mom i want to
00:44:42.700
marry this girl would you let that would you be happy with that decision if i have a valuable reason
00:44:48.380
that that is no i'm not look you're trying to make it's a simple question you don't have any
00:44:53.740
other information no you're adding more things to my i'm the one giving you the situation would you
00:44:57.980
let your son marry i'm saying if your son you don't have any other information about the girl you just
00:45:02.940
hear this is a girl that has been selling her body online she has had sex online there are videos of
00:45:07.260
her online having sex with other men she's a corner your son says he wants to marry her would you be
00:45:13.020
happy with that decision it is impossible to have your kids who is dating somebody and have no
00:45:19.500
information at a certain point you will know i'm just giving you the information i'm giving you this
00:45:23.340
information it's not about i don't think anyone would like that to be honest so this is the thing
00:45:27.100
she's she's trying to she's trying to justify her reason for for for um it's become harder for
00:45:34.060
men to find normal women with the idea the reality is i'm not agreeing with something i'm giving my point of
00:45:40.060
view but you are not listening no you are not listening you are not listening you are not
00:45:45.580
no because the point is the point i'm trying to make is she's trying to say oh if you had
00:45:48.860
information on the person no no that's not what i said i said if i have a valuable reason for what
00:45:54.620
why my kids want to marry that person because obviously whoever the person is that my kid wants
00:46:00.220
to marry i will ask either if it's a cornstar or not i will always ask why that person but this is the
00:46:09.660
point i'm trying to point out this is the difference this is another difference between
00:46:13.980
men and women a woman would want to look for all the fairy tale fairyland reasons why something can
00:46:21.260
work as a man i don't care what reason my son has i'm going to look at the possible detrimental
00:46:28.620
effects that his decision will have on his future well yeah there's one carries the name
00:46:32.460
sorry one second one he's going to be marrying someone that has videos of her having sex online
00:46:39.420
first of all that is going to affect whatever um what's it called whatever um future aspirations
00:46:47.900
he has in terms of the social world because if he wants to go into politics he wants to go into
00:46:51.820
anything like that anything that involves him being a leader anything that involves him
00:46:57.420
interacting with other people things like that will affect him because his enemies will always bring up
00:47:02.140
oh yeah well your wife has videos they'll bring up videos like that these are things if he's going
00:47:06.700
to have children my grandkids there's going to be videos of their of her mom having sex online so
00:47:13.820
there is no reason for me to think about oh but she might be a good person or there might be a good
00:47:18.540
reason why no imagine having a grandmother who's got porn videos imagine being like yeah my grandma's
00:47:24.220
crazy i actually find it if my grandmother was doing that i'm not gonna throw her away at the end of the
00:47:29.420
day she stay my grandma yes because you haven't done it no but that's the point because you wouldn't
00:47:33.980
have a choice at that point but what i'm telling you is before that point you are talking about okay
00:47:39.740
after the fact as a kid no that's what i'm talking about you are you are made understanding me because
00:47:45.020
what you're saying that i'm saying i'm not agreeing with it meaning this you are not saying what i'm
00:47:49.820
saying you just said you just said if you had a grandma that was doing it you won't throw her away i'm
00:47:53.980
telling you that is because you don't have any choice she's your grandma she came before you
00:47:59.180
what i'm saying is if you have a son that is not yet married that is you you will be solving a
00:48:07.180
problem that hasn't yet happened but if you are talking about your grandma that's something i don't
00:48:12.700
i don't see it in the same point i still of course you don't because you're a woman i understand i still
00:48:16.940
i still have my come on i'm still gonna stay on my on my we're not all the same on my decision i
00:48:23.500
think you guys are pretty much the same this is just there are just very few differences yeah i think
00:48:27.900
that um i'm gonna stay on my decision because i'm not a person who but you know how many children
00:48:34.460
have well recently studies have shown well there's more kids basically committing suicide because
00:48:39.340
they're getting bullied at school because their mom's porn stars and so don't worry they can
00:48:46.140
cry in the back of a bugatti but they're killing themselves which is a whole problem you know
00:48:51.180
there's kids killing themselves because they're getting bullied at school can you imagine how sad
00:48:54.700
it is for that kid to live that life of going to school having their peers or whatever know that
00:49:00.460
their people are watching their mom oh my god and uh what is your name please donika donika can we not
00:49:08.540
also talk about why is happening if people react like this like this sir right now who completely
00:49:15.900
attacked the imaginary person that we're talking about you know yeah absolutely like i'm saying
00:49:22.060
i will not take that situation like that and start attacking people because at the end of the day it's
00:49:26.540
a person the majority of people don't think like that you know if you have people attacking people
00:49:31.340
demonizing people and going around i have a question i have a question if we live in a society where we
00:49:40.060
we can't discern who is good and bad where does that leave us because if we can no longer decide
00:49:46.060
who is a murderer who is a grapist what we're just going to let these people will live in that today
00:49:54.060
there is a limit between deciding what is good or bad and bullying people actually because obviously
00:49:59.660
we have to decide what is good and bad it has been like this since the so only fans is it gonna
00:50:04.940
good or bad i mean other people do content that is not sexual so so only fans is it good or bad
00:50:16.300
i would say it depends on how you see it because i know people okay so is that good or bad
00:50:22.540
or is it depends on how you see it a what a murderer obviously it's not good right so how come
00:50:29.580
you can decide what's good or bad for for a murderer but you you can't decide on something like only fans
00:50:35.100
because only fun is not a platform that is designed to sell what we all talking about now well that's
00:50:42.220
where they're making the money from it's from vagina it is no it isn't it is stuck on the word okay let's
00:50:49.020
not say only fans let's say selling your body online because you're trying to you're trying
00:50:53.660
to dodge the question by saying that well some people don't do is i'm not judging something there's
00:50:58.620
a difference between us talking about only fun and sexual content no and i'm talking about only
00:51:03.740
fun himself is not a bad that difference it is a platform that is most likely a lot of people
00:51:11.660
different type of exclusive content but if you're talking about something else that's something
00:51:16.380
different the difference is only in your head because the reality is we all know we're speaking
00:51:21.100
about we're speaking about people that sell their body online she used the word only fans because
00:51:24.780
that's the term that's used generally to describe it but we all know we're talking about women that
00:51:29.900
sell their body online so that's what she's saying is selling your body online good or bad it's not
00:51:35.340
you're getting stuck on the word only fans that's not what we're talking about yeah not the corporation
00:51:39.740
the people who participate in selling their body sexually explicitly online is that good or bad
00:51:46.220
i personally i do not agree with the market but like said only fun himself is another
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she's the only fans manager
00:52:06.140
i'm not avoiding i give the answer you just don't want to listen there's a difference between me
00:52:10.700
avoiding a question and you're not wanting to listen so you just have to say i don't listen
00:52:16.380
that's the purpose that's that's the facts hey one second one second you're too much in the middle
00:52:20.460
i'm not understanding you're too much in the middle because what you're attempting to do and
00:52:23.900
the question the response is you are not listening please this is not your show you need to relax man
00:52:29.180
i'm relaxed i'm just i'm just talking all right so look here's what you're doing you're mixing up
00:52:34.220
what only fans was created for as opposed to what it's known for right now i'm not mixing up anything
00:52:39.900
maybe you're not understanding me but i'm not mixing up i'm gonna allow you to finish speaking
00:52:44.620
and then i'm going to hope you're going to give me the same respect afterwards to allow me to finish
00:52:48.380
speaking go on i'm finished to speak you're done so you're not gonna but whenever you're gonna mix
00:52:53.020
up what i said i'm gonna you know let him say what he needs to say and then you can rebuke it
00:53:00.620
however you like but let him finish first okay wonderful what you keep doing is you keep trying
00:53:04.780
to conflict the two things we completely understand that only fans wasn't created for porn stars corn
00:53:10.620
stars we get it we understand that we know it what it's known for right now and what the topic is
00:53:16.220
right now is about corn stars using it for that reason we're asking you a very direct question do you
00:53:22.220
think it's good or bad and if you if you want to still stay melancholy about and you want to stay
00:53:26.540
right in the middle i'm then going to ask you would you tell your immediate loved ones to do it
00:53:32.460
and if you wouldn't tell them to do it then your answer should be very clear it's bad
00:53:39.500
why are we flip-flopping do you think it's bad yes or no if you you know when we finish and you look
00:53:45.420
the video on youtube you're going to see that i respond to the question like i said you are not
00:53:49.820
listening and i'm not going to repeat myself all right so so so all of us here that have i think
00:53:55.100
tried to ask you the question all right you're going to say we're not listening all right cool
00:54:00.380
yeah she runs only fans still
00:54:05.820
so from from my perspective uh what i see is i see a lot of women doing things like only fans perhaps we
00:54:12.300
should use a different platform because i feel like you know maybe you are part of the pr team for only
00:54:17.900
fans maybe that's what's going on here i'm joking i'm not but i think that uh you know
00:54:23.420
when we are talking people need to listen instead of being in defensive you know i think i think you
00:54:29.180
are here sweetheart you're talking about yourself right now you're being defensive
00:54:32.060
yeah we're here to discuss something we're not here to the reality is start fighting at all you're the
00:54:38.540
one that hasn't been listening the whole time like this is this video is live and there are people
00:54:42.620
watching and i can i can actually read the comments if you want to see what they're saying in the
00:54:46.300
comments you i don't think you realize how you're coming across but it's fine when you get back
00:54:50.620
home you can watch it back and see whether you actually answered the question do you do you think
00:54:56.060
there's going to be a time where only fans is just like outdated or how do you guys see yeah it's
00:55:00.940
going to be ai fans next yeah yeah what would you mean like women having their what list and put on
00:55:07.900
like an like and they can do whatever you want with that it would be fake girls fake
00:55:12.940
that started recently as well hasn't it i think it's going to be a woman i think it's going to be
00:55:16.860
men who are probably going to be i think it's going to be men who are probably going to create these
00:55:23.420
ai women yeah women um and i mean because where do you think the privacy comes in are there going to
00:55:29.100
be legislations and laws that will protect our photos then being generated into ai
00:55:33.900
characters no i don't think they're going to be women's photos turned into ai characters i think
00:55:38.940
they're just going to make ai characters okay because then they don't have to worry about any
00:55:42.780
laws and regulations they can just shortcut it which makes sense i mean yeah it's crazy i mean the
00:55:49.020
technology is just it's advanced so quickly and i feel like time is getting quicker if that makes sense
00:55:56.940
that the amount of technology has come out and obviously something like only fans what's that going to look
00:56:03.820
like now that ai has been introduced into the world i guess i don't know i think we're just
00:56:10.540
gonna have to see when we get there let's go yeah anyway my perspective at the moment is that women
00:56:16.540
who indulge in this kind of promiscuous behavior um the majority it seems like everyone here is is pretty
00:56:24.060
normal grounded about the the whole thing maybe some more than others but the point is is that women
00:56:30.460
encourage each other to indulge in this kind of behavior and and women we we preach this whole
00:56:36.300
body positivity thing to each other do we agree or do we disagree that women lie to each other all
00:56:43.820
the time can i ask a question is is is height a part of body body positivity i mean women don't
00:56:51.820
really get judged on height and body positivity is only a woman's thing oh oh that's that's that's
00:56:57.340
surprising to me so so that's the double standard right of course okay fair fair i just want i just
00:57:03.980
wanted to know at least someone was going to admit you just had a revelation just wanted to know man
00:57:08.060
sure um do women lie to each other i think women just lie in general unfortunately women are worse
00:57:15.820
than guys why unfortunately don't they lie at least like 70 times a day about the smallest stuff
00:57:21.820
yeah it's a bit crazy i'm not gonna lie you two look really traumatized
00:57:30.140
do you know what it is yeah i have a i have a very big problem with this body
00:57:33.100
body positivity thing yeah because the men that are high challenged aren't getting no love
00:57:39.020
what do you mean by high challenge explain what i'm high
00:57:40.620
under six foot under six so so listen if you if you need to step into the kitchen and tiptoe
00:57:46.060
for anything that's called a height challenge yeah that's nice i'm not gonna lie it's called a
00:57:49.740
height challenge you get me so i just i just want to know because anytime like i'm on clubhouse
00:57:54.300
regularly anytime that we have these conversations it seems like it's like oh my gosh don't don't
00:57:58.140
mention this person's weight and don't mention this and that and then like there's mandem being height
00:58:03.180
shamed and told that i don't want to date you because you're height but why is that not part of the
00:58:07.740
body positivity like what yeah while going for the short band then hmm like what what can we can we show some
00:58:13.660
love to demand them that are highly challenged listen it's all about the personality yeah money
00:58:17.740
and heights don't mean a thing so you don't care about height that's a lie um i don't look how long
00:58:22.780
it took her to think about that she did a long pause in it hey my name you got no chance i'm not gonna
00:58:28.220
lie can i reply did you ask me a question yeah let me fucking reply then oh listen um for me i think
00:58:34.620
everybody reacts differently i'm a kind of person i look at personality energy there's other things that
00:58:39.820
can pull me into be attracted to somebody right okay i've i've dated somebody that's the same
00:58:44.620
height as me generally i've not been like oh you're a midget no i don't want to well you're not with
00:58:48.940
it no more are you huh you're not together but that that isn't the reason why i'm not with them though
00:58:53.820
how many i'm not that shadow-minded to be like let me put the physicality into into a potential so why
00:58:59.420
did you mention that he was the same height instead of yeah why did you bring up his hat why did she bring up
00:59:07.260
his hat what's going on you have to bring up his hat because we're talking about heights so stop it
00:59:11.500
no but why is he the same height as you why is he not sure why couldn't you tell us about a shorter
00:59:14.700
guy that you had a relationship with because it just hasn't happened but when it does i'll come back
00:59:18.300
and let you know it makes sense oh body positivity yeah oh is there a reason why you choose not to date
00:59:28.460
short men did you not just listen to my answer me you said the guy was the same height not sure no no
00:59:34.860
before that did you not listen to what i just said i said i get attracted by someone's energy
00:59:38.300
personality it's not the physicality or the money that attracts me but then i don't tolerate
00:59:45.740
have you been with a guy that's shorter than you i have been oh i'm quite tall though i'm about five
00:59:51.660
seven five eight or in between but have you been with the guy that's shorter than you i have yeah
00:59:54.860
you have interesting what
01:00:07.340
initially you only mentioned the guy who was the my same height yeah
01:00:12.220
um do you have to lift him up you have to rock you have to rock him to sleep tuck him in
01:00:17.420
now but who said that i slept with him what do you mean by bin i'm talking about going on a date
01:00:21.180
not sleeping with somebody oh just the date yeah yeah so you're talking about sleeping with somebody
01:00:27.340
she used him for his money oh that's crazy yeah yeah yeah it makes sense yeah obviously
01:00:33.100
what do people use you for then
01:00:34.380
i'm six foot when you said you've dated someone that is um shorter than you it doesn't count if you
01:00:55.580
if you didn't sleep with them really actually it doesn't count if you didn't sleep with them because
01:01:00.620
we're talking about people you're attracted to so yeah if you didn't get to the point of sleeping
01:01:04.220
with him but that's what they were talking about because of their reaction no i think i think we
01:01:09.180
mean that the guys that actually make it to the finish line so okay if you didn't make it to the
01:01:12.620
finish line then there's no need for me to talk then okay sorry if he stood up and he was under six
01:01:16.780
foot would you be upset no no i'm just teasing listen i'm not going to be malice and be a dickhead
01:01:27.900
like i'm a respectful person but i will make you laugh and educate you at the same time
01:01:31.820
i'm just myself that's an unfortunate end i have been in a relationship with a person that is
01:01:38.380
shorter than me which is one pardon just one just one what does that mean one person just one or
01:01:46.060
multiple as i'm talking about the person that was short yeah just one person how many how many
01:01:52.220
short guys you've been out with one person just one short guy one short guy okay that makes sense
01:01:57.180
how many relationships you had it's the personal questions to ask yeah yeah she had my first
01:02:03.020
relationship what do you mean it's a personal question is it so bad to ask you how many
01:02:07.100
relationships is that a bad thing now no it ain't okay sorry i got defensive sorry sorry don't worry
01:02:12.780
don't worry we got this was it just one short guy one short relationship he is the first person i
01:02:18.540
dated uh as i was in a relationship with okay okay so you dated the height challenge that no we didn't
01:02:25.500
as well we we were in a relationship how did it go how short was he i love how you guys just made
01:02:30.540
the height he was uh he was because no one's gonna call us out for hiking it doesn't happen this is
01:02:36.220
the new thing he was five uh six i believe and i'm five eleven oh wow wow yeah that's it did you have
01:02:43.020
to pick him up to hug him don't be mean don't be mean don't do that do you know what it is do you know
01:02:49.020
what it is yeah do you know what it is yeah don't be mean i find it absolutely it's a bit awkward
01:02:53.420
though especially if a woman's wild at that height that like listen if this clip goes out and i was
01:02:59.420
weight shaming someone i'd be cancelled but you see the short jokes for some reason they keep going
01:03:04.940
under the radar pun intended you get it yeah i'm just like what are we doing but the thing is that
01:03:09.660
men let's flip the coin here do you find it weird if a woman's taller than you no no oh exactly so why
01:03:17.180
is it why is that though why is that between men and women we have like but would you date an overweight
01:03:21.340
woman oh there we go there we go so hold on hold on hold on overweight and obese are two different
01:03:28.940
things yeah are you talking overweight or obese yeah cool yeah there's two different things there's
01:03:37.180
okay obese obese is extremely overweight for your height bmi whatever it is even though everyone says
01:03:44.060
just like a few extra pounds like a bit chubs no no no no obese is extremely overweight okay so you're not
01:03:50.700
just a little bit chubby that's 300 pounds yeah a little bit of cupping right here no no that's
01:03:55.580
none of that it's it's excessive 300 pounds being overweight it's just your b your bmi could be like
01:04:01.900
x and then you're you're literally like okay so answer the question someone as big as lizzo would you date
01:04:07.180
them do you have a motive first respectfully no respect the confidence but respectfully what confidence
01:04:14.620
why what is it that you respect the confidence in it like yo if you if you the confidence to be that
01:04:19.980
unhealthy and encourage other people do they want to bang or date that's that's the difference now
01:04:24.620
listen if you are this person and you are shaped like this that's the difference do your thing if
01:04:28.460
you're confident in it do your thing you think they're naturally shaped like that
01:04:34.700
i think i think there's a bad food to mouth ratio but there's not much that i can really say
01:04:38.220
like in regards to it like no like no one like no one is big bones no one is big bones we've seen
01:04:45.660
the skeletons no one is big bones so we do understand that a lot no no what you're about
01:04:51.260
to do is you're about to say oh there's some qualifications and blah blah blah no you're
01:04:55.900
talking about anomalies the vast majority of people that are overweight i love how you know me already
01:04:59.980
the vast majority of people that are overweight from what i understand it's just a bad food to
01:05:05.900
mouth ratio and we completely understand that yeah if you're happy within yourself do your thing
01:05:10.460
that's got no problem with me but you can't expect me i want to stop you right there so your your
01:05:15.740
philosophy is that if you're happy in yourself um then then that's okay so would you then encourage
01:05:21.900
someone who say uh has an unhealthy drug addiction oh but they're happy in themselves so you do you no
01:05:29.980
it's not my life if you're happy within yourself i'm not going to give you any advice regardless
01:05:33.260
it's a friend or someone you love if it's my friend that's someone i care about then of course i'm
01:05:36.940
going to take an actual care okay i have a question if the man were overweight i would tell the man him
01:05:41.580
my bro your belly kind of hanging over the belt your thing is moving kind of mad like my bro like i'm
01:05:47.340
gonna i'm gonna pull you don't get it twisted but we're then gonna go to the gym together
01:05:51.420
i'm gonna bang it out and we're gonna make sure you get to where you need to be we're not just
01:05:54.460
gonna leave you and be like oh my god body positivity you look so good
01:05:57.820
this doesn't surprise me this doesn't surprise me that a male is giving this answer so i want to
01:06:01.740
hear what the girls think simple question would you tell your girlfriend if she's fat
01:06:07.420
i would tell people i'm i'm real so whatever's going on that doesn't benefit them i will say it
01:06:11.980
to them but each person is different it depends on how you deliver things but yeah i'm real if
01:06:17.180
there's something going on if you're drinking too much if you're doing this too much if you're eating
01:06:20.380
too much you're not looking good too much i will say it for their own benefit not for my
01:06:24.700
own but it depends on how you deliver it the problem people have i call cap i call same same
01:06:29.260
and the reason why i call cap is because you actually didn't answer the question you you said
01:06:32.780
a whole lot of different things she asked a straight question yes would you tell your friends if they're
01:06:37.660
fat you didn't have to start saying well she did a whole story that you didn't answer the question
01:06:41.740
i'm giving a random story but yes yeah you tell your friend if they're fat they tell me all the
01:06:47.420
time if i look ugly i'll tell them if they look a bit you know your friends tell you when they
01:06:51.740
think you look ugly yeah you sound like you've got good friends yeah they are very good friends shout
01:06:55.500
out i will not wait wait wait wait let her speak let her land i was actually initially finished since we need
01:07:07.420
just to give a short answer but if i need to elaborate if a person as if my friend is fat i
01:07:13.820
will not tell her that you are fat why will i say so you're gonna make it wait if she is unhealthy and
01:07:21.420
i know that she have a health condition that is related to her weight i'm gonna make my way to let
01:07:28.540
her know that we need to get her to work on it but just saying you're fat okay well that's what i was
01:07:34.460
i never said it and i will never say i get this i get this this is the woman's mentality and i'm a
01:07:41.180
woman so that's my mentality that's not about a woman that's that's how i thought of telling another
01:07:46.380
woman you're fat yeah hurtful okay i wouldn't put it like that either right but okay let me rephrase
01:07:55.100
it in a feminine way you have a girlfriend right you've been friends for a long long time five to
01:08:01.820
ten years okay that means nothing to me i still get rid of people really just follow me for a
01:08:07.020
second just follow my story so you're good friends you've got great relationship forget the time she's
01:08:12.300
your girl she's gaining she is gaining chub right she's got a bit of a double chin going perhaps when
01:08:19.820
she wears a crop top half of it's hanging out a bit you know she's starting to get the whole
01:08:24.460
arm wings shit going on are you letting her know hey i've noticed that you're gaining a bit of weight
01:08:31.820
yeah is everything okay is there something we can do here or let's say let's add another context in
01:08:38.860
here she's all over instagram and everything say she has a tick tock account right and she's one of
01:08:45.180
these body positivity advocates and she has loads of fans telling her you go girl body positivity right
01:08:51.420
so she's continually gaining weight eating food yes that's how people gain weight she's continuing to
01:08:59.100
gain weight because she's being body positive and she wants to stop the idea of fat shaming uh what
01:09:06.140
are you doing i think as a good friend you obviously need to be like look like friend to friend i think
01:09:15.660
you know you've you know it's like respectfully and like not you can't just be like you're fat
01:09:20.540
like respectfully i mean you you you can if you're good friends i'm sure if i started getting fat pearl
01:09:25.580
would say to me girl you're getting fat but i don't think most girls would put it like that
01:09:29.820
because people people get like people sensitive especially women they're quite sensitive to obviously
01:09:34.060
tell them in a way that you know respectfully look i think you know you need to slow down whatever you
01:09:40.780
may say but then at the same time you give them what you give them but if they're deciding to listen to
01:09:45.180
other people and do this whole thing that that's that's up to them i have a question is it actually
01:09:51.580
because i'm kind of torn now i know it's feminine nature to put it nicely right but actually thinking
01:09:57.500
about it right if i'm this girl and i'm getting fat and i i see no problem with it i'm like i feel
01:10:03.340
good i'm body positive and my friend comes to me she says look i've noticed you're gaining weight
01:10:07.740
is there anything we can do to help that's not really going to prompt me to change actually if my
01:10:12.460
friend came to me and when you are fat what is going on that's going to prompt me to change so
01:10:17.580
actually as women are we actually harming each other with this feminine niceness would it not
01:10:22.940
be better for us if we were more harsh like how men are with each other like bro you're getting fat
01:10:27.820
we're going to the gym would it not be actually better for us if we were able to speak to each other
01:10:32.140
the same way that men speak to each other can i just say yeah you lot would never survive a call of
01:10:36.940
duty lobby in 2012 yeah you would never survive it it doesn't make any sense yeah i'm obeying you
01:10:44.780
don't survive anything i'm good yeah yeah you're you're a bit different still we understand them
01:10:48.620
and it's a little bit different but listen when when you go into these lobbies and you're being called
01:10:53.020
everything under the sun listen you don't even know i'm black but i'm being called the n-word before
01:10:58.540
i've even said anything how did you know how did you know what i'm trying to say is i feel like
01:11:05.980
if i'm coddling you and i'm like oh my gosh that's not going to help though you're getting
01:11:11.020
slightly chubby oh my goodness can we um can we sort it out i think people can that's not going
01:11:16.300
to motivate you to do anything but listen people can be harsh you can be nice in the beginning you
01:11:20.940
can explain things because you never know the reasoning to why somebody is gaining weight and
01:11:24.460
i'm talking from experience i've had thyroid problems which affect my hormones which then can
01:11:28.940
affect our weight right so somebody might not know what's going on but they are putting on weight and
01:11:33.660
they are unconsciously a bit scared maybe to talk about their health problems or whatever it is
01:11:38.140
but then when you talk about a situation where someone's deliberately doing the same behavioral
01:11:41.100
pattern talk uh eating the same crappy foods and carrying on with that behavior and you don't
01:11:47.180
address it you're a friend in my opinion if you deliver in a certain way to understand what the
01:11:51.500
root causes and you understand the root causes them just eating crap then maybe have a different
01:11:56.620
approach but again this is what i meant the circumstance can be different i see what you're saying
01:12:00.620
but i i want to argue the point that at the end of the day um how much does the root cause really
01:12:05.660
matter here's the thing because you want to fix it what's the reason for you telling them their
01:12:10.140
facts they want to you want them to improve let me make let me put more perspective on this the
01:12:14.220
reality what i've noticed is women actually secretly hate each other women are not real friends to each
01:12:20.540
other and that's why they always have to pretend the reason why i don't have a problem with my bro
01:12:26.060
telling me as blunt as possible is because i know he's my bro and i know he has my best interest at
01:12:31.100
heart so no matter how he says it i'm not going to take it the wrong way the reason why you women
01:12:36.460
always take things the wrong way is because secretly you don't know if that woman is truly your friend
01:12:44.700
you're not real friends you hate each other secretly so whenever a woman comes to you and say
01:12:49.340
something you take it sideways like oh that why would she even say that to me because you're not real
01:12:54.380
friends if me and my bro have been through all sorts of together maybe we're on the streets
01:12:59.500
together we came up together there is nothing he wants to say to me there's no how he's going to
01:13:03.340
deliver it i'm going to take it the wrong way unless of course we are now at a point where he's done
01:13:07.820
something i don't consider him my friend anymore hey listen if i'm getting fat and the man can't tell
01:13:13.580
me i'm getting fat you know my bedroom blood you shouldn't have them around you yeah yeah you
01:13:17.100
man i'm even mad if i'm getting fat and my stomach hanging over the belt a little bit my chin getting a bit
01:13:22.700
doubly chest get getting a bit resty and that and you don't tell me as the mandem and we're going
01:13:28.060
out and we're enjoying ourselves and we're doing the madness and you can see people looking at me
01:13:31.180
weird you're a bad friend like what we're doing i want to hear the other side uh you said that you
01:13:37.740
wouldn't say anything what's your reasons for that as well my point of view obviously was different
01:13:45.980
like said i'm not going to say to a person you fat and uh yeah but in the context that
01:13:54.300
i mean you mentioned that uh if is my friend she was healthy before and now she's gaining weight
01:14:01.900
my approach would be obviously to ask if there is anything if she as what is happening of her
01:14:09.420
gaining weight is she feeling comfortable gaining weight or is she obviously actually stressed so for
01:14:15.100
you is it about the subjective emotion the person's feeling so if they're gaining weight but they're
01:14:19.900
still happy in their own skin you're okay with that as well like said if there is any health issue
01:14:27.420
related to that so i think that because for me the point where as well the the the whole thing with
01:14:33.420
body positivity for me i'm not personally to focus on the body i think it's more about the health and
01:14:40.220
what i mean health is your mental health and uh obviously your health himself in your mental health
01:14:48.140
what doesn't work cannot improve the mental health no but forget that being overweight brings
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health problems so it doesn't matter if the health problems are the reason that the weight is coming
01:15:01.020
the weight will inevitably bring problems with it so my question to you is that's different you talked
01:15:07.420
about being as a overweight if you are overweight it says in the word overweight it obviously bring
01:15:15.980
you problems of um health problems so are you gonna present that to your friend even if they say i'm
01:15:21.500
perfectly happy in my own skin i feel great like said whenever there is a health issue involved i'm gonna
01:15:29.580
speak about it because health is more important than looks so you wait until they're already dying before you
01:15:36.220
this is not what i said one one more time again you're trying to you know misunderstand what you
01:15:43.900
want but this is not what i said no actually i actually purposely made it exaggerated but it's
01:15:50.140
the point stands the point is what you're saying is you're going to wait until there's a health issue
01:15:54.460
before you bring it up but the reality is what you should do as a friend is to bring it up because
01:15:58.700
the reality is some people don't even know yeah what's going on when it could be when something could
01:16:03.260
be going wrong with them but if you bring it up then they could look like okay maybe i should go
01:16:06.700
to the hospital and actually check myself but you wouldn't bring it up until maybe they've they've
01:16:12.780
probably fainted one day and then they go to the hospital once again you are misunderstanding
01:16:17.580
you are mentioning there's nothing that i said that i can relate that i said unfortunately because
01:16:22.860
health is not is not only getting physically uh as that that you're sick is not that you get
01:16:30.220
how do you say it in english you don't have to be physically sick to be sure your mental health can
01:16:36.060
already be deteriorated for you to be sick look i'm never trying to be funny if the person is not
01:16:41.020
happy being fat i'm nervous and the person is not i'm not even trying to be funny but i just find it
01:16:47.820
funny how you keep saying i am misunderstanding where you're when you're the one that doesn't really
01:16:53.660
understand english it's just very funny because i understand exactly what you say there's a difference
01:16:58.460
between not me not understanding english and and me not maybe putting in a way what i want to say
01:17:06.540
because what i want to say i know i know what i want to say and what you are saying is absolutely
01:17:12.380
know what i said wasn't the question i will not wait i will not i will not wait for my friend to be
01:17:17.340
able to would you guys be on the way to die before the question was overweight overweight overweight
01:17:22.780
would you guys date a woman that's taller or more overweight let's look at both aspects okay tell
01:17:28.460
me explain overweight yes obese no taller yes really doesn't matter to me it depends i'm 62 i am and i'm
01:17:35.180
all right it depends on how it depends on how overweight she is think about other men though let's
01:17:39.020
talk about a general perspective here she if she's if she's a bit on the thick side then little tickers
01:17:45.420
yeah yeah a little bounce yeah the bmi might say differently but you know but it doesn't put you
01:17:52.780
off and a bit of weight doesn't put you off no no no it just depends on how much weight cause does it
01:17:58.140
depend on the face as well she has to be i'm not gonna lie she has to be pretty okay so there's
01:18:03.180
standards here now because there are some pretty facts you gotta say overweight and we've got to be
01:18:10.540
politically correct no you can say fast you can't say no we can't we say it over just say overweight
01:18:18.220
yeah there is there is there is no chubsies get me okay they can always that might be tall as well
01:18:23.100
okay they can always go turkey and swear and get a bb when it's easy things all right but let me ask a
01:18:26.940
quick question yeah i'll just i'll just go i i genuinely i don't even feel like this i'm saying
01:18:32.620
i don't even feel like this is a bit of a madness yeah let me ask you a question yeah let's say for
01:18:36.140
example you was going up can you hear me let's say for example you was going out with your
01:18:39.020
brethren's yes your brethren's birthday yeah she's bought this one dress that is not befitting of her
01:18:45.340
figure at all yeah she's put the dress on the dress looks mad but it's her birthday dress it's her
01:18:51.020
dream dress she knows what one oh this is how i want to look she's she's she's faded the hair
01:18:57.660
but the hair is not hearing do you get me certain things are lifting do you get i'm saying maybe the
01:19:01.580
glue was not too gluey you see what i'm saying that that type of thing in general it's your
01:19:06.060
brethren's birthday would you look at her in that situation and at least and let her go out would you
01:19:11.260
at least be honest and be like yo babes look you might want to change the dress i know this is your
01:19:15.820
birthday dress x y and z but you might want to change it because it's not flattering or if the wig might
01:19:20.380
be lifting or the hair might be hearing or the extent the extension extension all right don't
01:19:26.060
beat us out it's so the fuck down stop beating us let her answer let her answer let her answer
01:19:32.300
let her answer would you would you tell her you need to rephrase again properly what you're trying
01:19:39.420
to say because you have mentioned a lot of things your friend essentially looks awful she looks terrible
01:19:47.260
in nicer ways you can you can see she just she doesn't look good right but she thinks she does
01:19:53.980
are you letting her go out looking like that or are you telling her love you to pieces but you look like
01:20:01.180
shit well if her outfit is looking all over the place and her wig is lifting and her eyelashes glue
01:20:10.060
wherever obviously i'm gonna tell that because this is not how you put on the wig this is not how you put
01:20:14.700
the eyelashes but if everything is looking good but it's just a question of a person not finding it
01:20:23.340
good i don't know what to say fair enough fair enough okay right i don't know if i if i think that this
01:20:34.140
is truthful based on your other answer however you're you're entitled to your opinion so we'll we'll leave
01:20:40.620
it at that um well so we've established that women lie to each other okay um we won't get into why
01:20:49.420
because that's a whole other long conversation more to women or to men uh i think we just lie in general
01:20:57.020
i think we we we have adapted in such a way that we are extremely manipulative um and it's a survival
01:21:03.820
tactic and i think in today's day and age it's been over inflated to the point where women get away with
01:21:09.740
lying about things that we don't even need to lie about anymore okay um so a question i have about
01:21:15.420
female nature um is can women make good decisions
01:21:22.300
you can go into so many let me give more yeah a bit more context let me give more context
01:21:26.700
because people go into deep yeah of course we over we overthink everything what can i do i've been
01:21:32.300
designed like that can women make good decisions who makes a better decision a man or a woman
01:21:37.980
well men who's better at making decisions we lead with emotions men lead with logic so you can
01:21:42.700
understand which side of the better situation so you're saying i'm saying logic you're saying men
01:21:49.180
make better decisions yeah in general it's men i think it really depends to be honest with you on um so
01:21:59.100
women haven't been put in certain positions to be able to have enough data for us to be like oh you make
01:22:03.980
considerably better decisions than men or worse they just haven't been put in those positions
01:22:07.900
before why have they not been put in those positions oh for multitude of reasons um such as
01:22:12.620
mandem being mandem stay in a woman's place prime example they can only be like
01:22:20.540
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait so you're suggesting that the reason that women aren't in
01:22:24.780
significant positions of power i'm not suggesting that so are you so you just said that because of
01:22:31.420
to quote yourself i said i said i said the reason why both of them are it's possible i don't know
01:22:36.060
we said that women don't have enough data available careful bro there's four girls
01:22:44.060
the question i'm trying to ask is are you i correct me if i'm wrong but it sounds like
01:22:49.260
you're kind of going along the lines of patriarchy is that what you're saying no no so long story short
01:22:55.260
long story short i'm saying we don't have enough data on both ends of both people doing the same
01:23:00.780
amount of things to be able to be like this person does better than the other so for example if we had
01:23:05.660
as many dictators as we did male dictators as we did women yeah we could therefore be like all right
01:23:10.540
cool let's come in the middle and we can say this person did better as opposed to because they killed
01:23:14.700
more people wait wait no no not because they killed more people but because it could be because
01:23:19.100
they did better no no it could be because they they just did better for their community it could
01:23:23.500
literally just be that survival exactly it could be you know you you put something in place for your
01:23:29.180
community in order for them to gain so much benefits like seven to 70 years down the line but let's
01:23:36.780
say for example um we look at war if we had as many women in war as we did men perpetuating
01:23:44.620
the war and we brought it together we could be like all right cool well we can genuinely tell that
01:23:50.220
this person is better at strategy than the other one but we just don't have enough data to be ever
01:23:54.860
hold on hold on i'm gonna fact check you right there uh women have actually waged more in history uh
01:24:00.220
women are more likely to wage war than men okay and that's based off of the data set that we have
01:24:05.580
that is men typically tend to be in positions of power more even with men in power more women are still
01:24:11.580
more likely to wage war so what i would suggest is that we look at the situation we're in which is
01:24:17.260
that men are in significant positions of power more than women why is that is it because of this idea
01:24:25.100
of a patriarchy and that men have oppressed women and that's and that women have just been told to
01:24:29.660
keep in their place and that's why men in positions of power or is it that men are just better at it but
01:24:35.980
we again we can't make that judgment because we haven't had enough of a sample sample to be able
01:24:41.340
to say that again how long i'll give you an example i'll give you an example we've had maybe a hundred
01:24:47.820
men i'm just throwing numbers out there we've had maybe a hundred men be in mad amount of positions
01:24:52.940
of power and run countries amazingly we've only had a select number of women be in a position of power
01:24:59.180
and everything that they do might be really we don't operate in a normal society anyway and that's
01:25:06.540
what that's why i'm saying it's difficult right now that are telling women you might be drawn to go to
01:25:11.420
war what obviously i don't i don't want to get into that i believe in equal rights because you
01:25:16.700
lot fought for it but i'm not trying to get into that equal rights i'm sorry women should not be going
01:25:20.460
to war no no you don't you don't know you don't want you right so so we're going to be equal women
01:25:26.860
we need to we need to say conflict but yeah in in general you have to understand this the way i'm
01:25:31.660
seeing it i'm seeing in just just a graphical graphical situation in general of course men
01:25:35.420
have been in multiple positions of power which means but women cause one second one second anyone
01:25:41.180
that messes up the stat is not going to be the same do you see i'm saying if 100 men do do a
01:25:46.540
madness and 10 percent of demanding fuck up as opposed to 10 10 women be in the same situation
01:25:52.620
and one woman fucking up or two women fucking up bro that's 20 as opposed to 10 we just don't have
01:25:58.780
enough i said i said i said 100 i said 100 men 10 getting it wrong that's 10 men yeah if we have 10
01:26:08.140
women and 20 getting it wrong that's two the percentage is likely to be higher so what i'm trying
01:26:14.460
to what i'm trying to say to you is the reason why i don't want to say one side or the other is
01:26:17.740
just we just don't have enough data to be able to say it i believe that there's been women in power
01:26:21.500
that have done absolutely amazing and we could see other women that are in those same situations
01:26:26.060
that do amazing things but there's a reason we don't have enough yeah but you see the majority of
01:26:29.580
fights that happen in bars to challenge you to challenge you on that point the problem with your
01:26:35.660
point is that you're looking at it from a very recent point of view true so how many years do you
01:26:41.340
think human beings have existed on the face of the earth
01:26:45.020
a lot right like probably hundreds of thousands of years so for most part for most part of that time
01:26:53.020
it's only like very it's only a very small percentage of that time that we've seen modern
01:26:58.460
society right so most of the way human beings behave today is not based on this our new way of
01:27:06.300
living in our new technological society it's actually based on thousands of years of evolution
01:27:11.020
now based off of that men and women operate not because of oppression or because women need to
01:27:17.660
stay in their lanes because of this is how human beings have actually had to be to survive so if
01:27:23.420
they are not women in power it's not because men don't want women to be in power it's because
01:27:27.180
women have not been able to be in power i never said that men didn't want them to be in power i'm
01:27:31.100
just saying we just don't have no meaning meaning men have been the more competent
01:27:36.140
women want to be in power it's not but we take everything over so of course we're going to be
01:27:41.660
exactly but isn't that that is why we are the ones that are more likely to be in power because we
01:27:45.980
take everything over being able to take something over doesn't mean you're good to to lead it no
01:27:49.580
that's why i'm saying but that's the problem you don't have enough data but that's the problem
01:27:52.780
how can you defend how can you lead something you can't defend
01:27:56.380
that's true so if you have an ideology the only way for your ideology to fly is if you are willing
01:28:06.700
to stand with your life and defend it the problem with today's society is women claim they have all
01:28:11.500
this right way of thinking and these ideologies but they cannot even defend it themselves they
01:28:15.660
still need men to defend their ideologies do you see what just happened there a brother gave me some
01:28:22.300
some knowledge and i conceded on the point because i just recognized that he was correct
01:28:27.660
do you get it i feel like we need to have some more accountability no he's right he's right fair
01:28:34.700
enough romeo can women make good decisions can women make good decisions it depends on the type of woman
01:28:43.820
what does it depend on um her intelligence and what she's what she's got to to give you know um
01:28:53.260
all women are different as you can see there's we've got these only fans women we've got in general
01:28:58.860
oh in general that wasn't the question you asked me though
01:29:07.740
okay who makes better decisions men or women there we go there we go um men overall right so i'm gonna
01:29:16.700
ask the original question again minus the feminine context can women generally as a majority the
01:29:23.660
female species do we make good decisions you can do at times yeah the majority of the time do we make
01:29:33.100
good decisions no why not no why why do you say no um i think there's a and again i feel like women
01:29:42.860
kind of i feel like women kind of play into this you you guys are a bit in a bubble it's like
01:29:50.060
you're you're like your friends your brethren give you terrible advice if i'm being honest yeah
01:29:54.940
your brethren will give you terrible advice but weren't you the same guy talking about
01:29:58.060
accountability a couple of minutes ago yeah exactly so what's the advice got to do with it
01:30:02.380
if you're accountable for your own actions but women aren't accountable for their own actions and
01:30:05.740
that's the point fair enough there we go so what i'm trying to say is women aren't necessarily
01:30:10.380
accountable for a lot of things that they do but not only that women like their brethren give terrible
01:30:15.900
advice so instead of like for example if there's a massive breakup or something go heal go relax go
01:30:23.420
chill no it's city girl time throw that ass in a circle do your madness go go do whatever you want
01:30:30.460
to do and it's like that's not good advice that's not how you deal with your emotions and you know what
01:30:37.340
it is you see when you flip these situations and it's like both parties start partaking in a terrible
01:30:44.300
behavior women don't like it and it's like why why you don't give our terrible advice okay i want to
01:30:50.860
i want to you seem like you have some thoughts no no no no it's a fair point what he just said but
01:30:59.180
you're saying that oh when the girl i'm going to use what you said about the whole breakup thing when
01:31:02.860
a girl breaks up with a boyfriend wherever she's going around going out enjoying time with the girls
01:31:07.260
but what what are you men doing you guys aren't saying we're going to the gym and we can't compare
01:31:11.820
each other to men because we want to be apparently superior we're going to the gym and playing
01:31:16.300
quality that's what we do the simplest thing that's for me what you do but that is not what a large
01:31:21.180
majority of you do you use it out there trying to clap cheeks straight away because the vast majority
01:31:26.140
of men don't clap so what are you talking about what's going on about clapping cheeks
01:31:29.340
you're the one that introduced that word i know i know i know i've influenced a bit of a madness here
01:31:35.580
but we're moving it we're moving but the vast majority of men don't clap cheeks so what do we
01:31:39.020
do from there we're trying to you we're still going out and stuff you think that that girls just go
01:31:44.700
out because we're trying to trying to but let's talk about generation a lot of times when a girl
01:31:51.100
breaks up she goes out with her with her friends yeah not all of them but majority of them might do that
01:31:56.140
but a lot of them a lot of the times not because they're trying to
01:31:59.500
get down in the day a lot of time they're trying to just enjoy with their girls and and we're
01:32:03.500
emotional so we just want to we just want to distract ourselves okay i have a question wait i
01:32:07.900
have a question um so if it's if it's just about you know being with your girls and being around your
01:32:12.380
girls wouldn't have they told you that you're on the ship boyfriend no why do you need to do that at
01:32:19.100
the club yeah yeah no you don't you don't have to do that at the club i can like i'm i'm for for
01:32:25.500
speaking for myself i wouldn't do that but the club is a i feel like a club is a place that's
01:32:31.020
just very distracting girls and that just want to be fully distracted from from from there is that
01:32:36.380
healthy no it's not so why do we encourage each other to do it my friends don't encourage me to do
01:32:41.820
the word so oh you're clearly an anomaly well maybe but
01:32:50.140
welcome back hi um i want to know but listen do women make good decisions no why not definitely
01:32:57.820
not especially like you were saying earlier on uh women tend to especially in a group i don't trust
01:33:02.620
anybody that has more than four or five friends and i'm talking at the age of 30 and everybody at
01:33:07.020
different ages at different stages their lives will understand things differently when you're
01:33:11.420
young you might not really realize that somebody's talking shit to you and encouraging you in a
01:33:16.380
negative way even though they've got hate for you and they're around you just for jealousy
01:33:21.020
sake because they want to be around the same people that you know whatever it is interior motive but
01:33:25.660
when you reach a certain age and you're doing the same stupidity of letting other people because
01:33:30.220
everybody knows deep down when you've made a mistake everybody deep down unconsciously or they feel
01:33:34.780
they've got it in the pit of the summit when they know they're doing something wrong
01:33:38.540
and then other people validating that one second this i just have something to say about this so
01:33:46.220
you said everyone knows when we're doing something wrong of conscious normality yeah actually in the
01:33:52.380
modern day a study came out in 2023 um it was a study on uh casual sex encounters between men and
01:33:59.820
women and it was a longitudinal study that looks at sexual action regret and sexual inaction regret so
01:34:05.740
we know that men typically regret passing up sexual offers they they regret turning down casual sex whereas
01:34:12.940
women tend to regret more having casual sex so when we have casual sex we tend to regret it so this study
01:34:19.820
essentially aimed to look at you know who how do we learn from regret so if we have the emotion of regret
01:34:27.180
surely it should be there to tell us we've done something wrong and we should probably change our
01:34:31.340
behavior what this study found is that regret seems to be working pretty well in in men when men
01:34:38.140
hand in hand with denial unfortunately when men regret have sexual regret so they they've passed up an
01:34:44.140
offer of casual sex um they they change their behavior to make sure they don't feel that again
01:34:48.700
actually what this study found is that when women have experienced regret after a casual sexual encounter
01:34:54.460
they carry on it has had zero effect on the number of their sexual partners and they still indulge in the
01:35:01.100
same behavior so women are feeling regret but something has gone seriously wrong in our psychology
01:35:08.140
because we can no longer learn from the feeling of regret i can add that to that as well actually majority
01:35:14.140
majority let's say 80 to 85 percent of women that have been sexually abused tend to become hypersexualized
01:35:21.100
right so the behaviors then become they want to have more sex which is a very strange
01:35:27.580
thing to actually when you think about it from an outside perspective but majority more than
01:35:32.460
majority of women that have been sexually abused tend to be become hyper sexually hypersexualized and have
01:35:39.260
more sex i want to have more sex now where the psyche why that's like a more more of a depth kind of
01:35:44.780
conversation to go into but i think that's what i'm seeing more into play society as okay sexual
01:35:51.740
abuse can be different things and by the way i don't like the fact that women over i feel like
01:35:56.140
sexual abuse has been changed as a concept throughout the years by the way i agree but before we go into
01:36:03.260
that topic abuela same question do women generally majority of women no specifics as a group do we tend to
01:36:10.540
make good decisions um i personally i don't i don't have any thought about that but if we have to carry
01:36:20.940
on as well if i have to carry on on the logic that of the first question you asked if between men and
01:36:27.820
women who make the who makes better decisions so i would say yeah i don't i don't have any specific
01:36:35.340
things to say if there is not any more context um so women as a group in general would you say they
01:36:45.100
tend to make good decisions or they tend to make bad decisions this is not to deny the fact that there
01:36:50.220
are exceptions but the majority of women do we make good decisions or bad decisions like said i don't have
01:36:55.980
any ideas on that because i didn't read anything about this and uh i don't okay so let's talk about
01:37:02.220
let's talk about anecdotes uh you know statistics and facts and science aside let's just talk about
01:37:07.660
what we what we see in society so if women are good at making decisions generally let's go with that
01:37:15.020
consensus why is it that pretty much every girl i've ever spoke to has had some kind of toxic ex
01:37:24.220
have any of you on the sofa had a toxic ex i've had toxic situations but i don't really want to go into
01:37:33.180
yeah yeah i would say have you had a toxic ex relationship have you had an encounter with
01:37:39.500
a man who you would class as toxic as well i would say that most of men are toxic but uh if you have to
01:37:47.100
seen on that wait wait wait what the hell wait you just you just came at the right time what did you
01:37:53.980
just say let her elaborate okay let her finish let her land um i mean i will ask as well if a man
01:38:01.500
didn't have the toxic ex which is the case so no but you just said you just said something may just
01:38:06.860
said that all most men are toxic yeah yeah can you can you can you um extend on that please
01:38:13.820
i don't know how to stand in more because this english so why did you say it but uh it's for me
01:38:19.180
personally i believe that um there's more toxicity in general as well it's not even about have you
01:38:25.020
met 51 of the men in the world no how many how can you make that judgment then how many men have you
01:38:31.420
been with we're talking about we're not talking about we're not talking about every man so surely
01:38:37.260
we shouldn't make that so you think all men are toxic is that what you're saying as well nobody has
01:38:41.900
said that i'm not sure no but you made an absolute statement which is she said she thinks the majority
01:38:48.380
of men yeah which means more than 50 which is most so can you substantiate that thanks so can you
01:38:55.500
substantiate that so what do you what do you when you say that the majority of men are toxic can you
01:39:02.540
tell us what you mean by toxic what what what constitutes a toxic man what makes a man the first date
01:39:12.460
so in the context of your statement the majority of men are toxic what is toxic to you in in in that
01:39:25.900
statement as well in the statement i will go more for the the mentality of men in the society when it
01:39:35.660
comes to dating so what does that look like as well i don't really have an idea uh because uh like
01:39:43.820
say again i don't have any study read or i don't know it's not something that's okay in your in your
01:39:50.140
personal opinion but um yeah what men are you dating so can we agree that some men are toxic then
01:39:59.820
seeing as you can't substantiate what you're talking about um i don't know how to put it in a way but
01:40:06.140
i think that's in general men have a very
01:40:12.380
toxic point of view when it comes to dating but what does what is the toxic that you're referring
01:40:17.900
to what is it that's toxic she wants you have to explain when you're thinking
01:40:26.780
because we're not here just to like listen to brief things we need to understand your opinion so
01:40:31.180
bro she wants a man that earns four came up or more than four more more than that yeah more than
01:40:35.820
four point five yeah have you have you met 3.6 billion men in the world let her define
01:40:41.660
toxic first so just in the statement that you said what is toxic to you forget studies statistics
01:40:49.580
forget definitions it's 2023 apparently a man can be a woman and a woman can be a man
01:40:53.740
oh that's great exactly what's toxic well i'm not gonna go into this detail right now because like
01:41:01.900
said this is not a topic that i personally i go for in my daily basis but from my point of view um
01:41:09.020
yeah what's toxic for women what do you see as toxic within women by the way i'm asking the guys here
01:41:14.140
what what juice what because obviously it's different for men and women like we might see something toxic
01:41:19.580
within a man's behavior that might be different but obviously men might see different things what's
01:41:24.380
like a red flag or something toxic behavior wise whatever within a woman you first i can say i can
01:41:30.780
see one one is saying things like most men are toxic that that is that is toxic because because
01:41:37.980
very because for you to say most men are toxic in relationship that means you've mostly been with
01:41:42.700
toxic men but that doesn't really prove that men are toxic that just proves that the men you date are
01:41:48.060
toxic and for you to date mostly toxic men that means you yourself are toxic
01:41:55.900
wow i also want to know the the same question so was that the answer for me or was it a general
01:42:01.740
because i need to clarify i was asking the matter for you for you mr king was the answer for me or was
01:42:08.460
it a general yeah i was speaking about you because you said most men are toxic so i'm saying for you
01:42:13.100
to say that that just that doesn't mean that that's true it just means that you date mostly toxic men
01:42:18.460
and if you date mostly toxic men that means that that's what you attract and if that's what you
01:42:22.060
attract that means you're most likely toxic as well so it's just the thing is it's very easy for
01:42:27.260
women to point fingers forgetting that there are many four fingers that they're pointing are facing
01:42:31.900
themselves so if you if you date mostly toxic people like it's okay for a woman to date to have to make a
01:42:39.660
mistake you meet one toxic guy you meet two toxic guys but if you have this view that most men are toxic
01:42:44.780
that just means that most of the guys you've dated are toxic and that only points to the fact that
01:42:49.100
you're toxic as well i'm never trying to go at you i'm just analyzing what you said yeah but
01:42:54.460
you're analyzing doesn't stand for me because uh first of all you don't even know if i'm dating or if
01:42:59.900
i had dated so it doesn't know but you made it you made a statement that most men are toxic in dating
01:43:05.980
so you cannot make that statement if you don't date because i'm just talking about what you don't know
01:43:10.460
what you don't know about i can't see okay so you know more than 51 of men no so let me get this
01:43:18.220
straight you're saying you're saying aside from your personal experience from general observation
01:43:24.380
of the population you've come to the conclusion that men when dating are toxic so let's go with
01:43:30.620
that for a second let's take the word toxic out of it what are some problems with men today that would
01:43:36.860
lead you to believe that the majority of men are toxic give us a toxic trait man let's take the word
01:43:41.660
toxic out of it because we've already established that we can't seem to get a definition for that
01:43:47.020
so what are some problems with men today that you have seen that has led you to that statement
01:43:52.380
yeah most of young people or in general people don't want to commit but that's one toxic trait commit
01:43:58.940
or commit to you no no i'm not talking about me i'm talking about general commitment no but how
01:44:05.660
can you how can you quantify commitment if it's not towards yourself what are you looking at your
01:44:09.900
brethren and saying yo how many men don't want to commit because there's something to commit to
01:44:14.220
that's the problem that sounds like a you problem are we not agreeing that this uh this generation have
01:44:20.860
commitment issues to you you're gonna deny it no no no no no again i feel like you're talking about a
01:44:27.340
personal situation they may have i'm not talking about personal situation no but you just said you
01:44:31.580
just said you are the one forcing thinking that i'm talking you just said this generation has a
01:44:35.740
commitment yeah and i'm saying i'm making general statement i'm not talking about me i didn't see okay
01:44:41.740
you see the problem of making general and fast sweeping statements you're saying that more than 51 of
01:44:48.620
x do x y and z you don't have that data let's stop making absolute statements because it is it is
01:44:55.340
it is fact that's in this generation it's a fact that's what people don't want to commit it's a
01:45:00.780
fact it is a fact in where the western world or the world in the whole world especially in the
01:45:06.860
western world prove that right now for me i mean you can just go on google just pull up your
01:45:11.580
stuff and go on google it has been marriages no no no no no you guys hold on hold on again again you
01:45:17.740
guys are messing up she just said the world you don't have the step for that because there's no
01:45:21.980
step that the world is specifically the western world because we are in the western world is
01:45:26.780
specifically the western world i asked you about the world and then asked you about a certain
01:45:30.460
demographic of the world i feel like you're mixing up everything and even even even with the specific
01:45:35.100
demographic of the western world you have no stats or statistics to back up what you just said you're
01:45:38.940
making about this about the western i'm sure what i'm saying is when it comes to us actually
01:45:43.260
speaking about things can we just speak in less absolutes stop saying most and this and that because
01:45:50.380
it's not 51 you don't know the 51 of men x1 you don't know any of these things okay so let's take
01:45:56.060
let's take general generalizations out of this thank you let's let's talk about personal experience
01:46:03.340
so actually no i disagree with that um you can't actually like for the first time i'm going to
01:46:09.180
back you up we can actually we can actually we can actually make general statements the only issue
01:46:19.260
is if you make a general statement that is factually incorrect like you we can make general statements
01:46:27.100
about the world what we see but when you say stuff like most men are toxic that is a factually incorrect
01:46:35.180
statement facts so there's nothing wrong in making a general statement for instance you can say most
01:46:41.020
men like to sleep around if given the opportunity that is generally factual so there's nothing wrong with
01:46:46.380
that statement but when you say something like most men are toxic then you have to come with your facts and
01:46:52.140
back it up you can't just say something like that and then when you're asked to explain how then you
01:46:57.020
say no i can't get into that no then don't make the statement thank you so one of the issues that you
01:47:03.340
you pointed out was uh commitment um and you said that it applies both to men and women but what i wanted
01:47:09.580
to know was because of your statement about men specifically uh being more toxic in in dating than women
01:47:16.220
what are some big this is not what i said i didn't say men are more toxic than women i'm saying that
01:47:22.780
i'd said men are them as a men are toxic this is what it was not a comparison she said men are toxic
01:47:30.700
she doesn't compare to women but i didn't make a comparison between genders and now she's just
01:47:35.420
saying us across the board okay but if we do make the distinction between genders in your opinion what
01:47:40.860
are some big issues with men today that are leading them to be as you put it toxic
01:47:46.780
like said the lack of wanting to commit so this is one of the first thing that came in mind because
01:47:52.700
i feel like if you have to dig into the subject it's a whole subject with a lot of so so what else
01:47:57.980
is that commitment that that's something you see as a problem i mean i can definitely agree that
01:48:02.860
commitment at least among my generation is something that is declining but what's specifically something
01:48:08.780
that you've seen you you use the term earlier you know toxic masculinity what's some problems that
01:48:14.060
you've seen with that what is it that you don't like about that about what did you not pay on the
01:48:19.980
first date did you not open your door we're trying to protect we just want to know what's toxic behavior
01:48:24.700
to you what i need to hear the question again can you i need to hear the question again what's toxic to you
01:48:30.540
the thing is that i personally don't want to go into that discussion tonight because i don't i just
01:48:43.980
don't have the energy for it no it's it's fine it's fine it's fine but like can we ask the men
01:48:48.860
to be honest for you one second one second to be honest actually i like i get where you're coming
01:48:54.460
from and when you say men don't want to commit or not just men in general people are having a problem
01:49:00.940
committing it's actually true this generation most men are not going to commit there's nothing but i
01:49:07.340
want to point out something that that really directly contradicts with what you were saying
01:49:13.980
earlier because now you're saying men don't want to commit which is fair and which is kind of true
01:49:18.700
but then earlier you were saying stuff like uh well if people want to do only fans it's okay it's this
01:49:25.580
and that how on i never said it well you were saying you were saying you were you weren't like
01:49:32.060
there's you don't have a problem with it or whatever however you put it but we i never said it
01:49:36.460
this is i'm not saying i'm not saying it exactly how you said you have to say it exactly for it to be
01:49:42.780
a statement that i said you need to see exactly what i said one second my point is my point is
01:49:47.980
what we're talking about you agreed with that ideology one second my point is when we're talking
01:49:51.420
about promiscuity you didn't categorically stand against it that's my point so i did you didn't
01:49:59.660
i did now we can watch it back see we can let's do it actually now one second can we get rid of the
01:50:07.180
don't derail the conversation don't derail the conversation i mean i'm ready for it i know i know
01:50:11.580
what i said hey excuse me excuse me can you guys stop can you guys stop don't derail the conversation
01:50:17.820
my point is you were trying to make excuses for it you didn't you didn't come out like obviously when
01:50:22.940
i talked about it i was like it is bad we asked you time and time is it good about you kept hopping
01:50:27.820
the fence you didn't want to make a definite answer i do not agree i believe that you're talking
01:50:31.020
about somebody else that's not me she pleaded my point is my point is how on earth are men
01:50:36.300
meant to commit to women that cannot even determine what is bad i'm not sure you're talking about me
01:50:42.460
because if it's about me the statement you're saying that ice made is not a i'm not uh i'm not
01:50:50.380
i don't have any problem what you're doing right now you know why you're literally just going to give
01:50:54.380
us millions of views with what you're doing because people are going to people yes you can be happy about
01:50:59.820
it and this is the this is the problem of society women women women are willing to do whatever for
01:51:04.620
clout but the point is but i'm not doing anything for clout you are misunderstanding me all the time
01:51:10.220
can you can you let me finish and stop interrupting you can but stop also making stop talking to the
01:51:15.900
wrong person because you are interrupting me facts that i never said so i cannot talk to you since the
01:51:22.140
facts can you stop interrupting me please if you do it again we'll just ask you to leave the point is
01:51:33.020
yes literally if you interrupted one more time you would leave um the point i'm trying to make is
01:51:38.700
you've literally contradicted yourself back to back and even now that i'm calling you out on it you are
01:51:44.140
still trying to hold moral high ground as if you are so sure that you haven't done it and the reality
01:51:49.580
is you are going to be cut into clips i trust the people that watch our shows they are going to
01:51:53.420
cut you into clips and you're going to go viral just be ready for it i promise you and if you
01:51:58.380
think i'm like when you get home go back and watch it and i i probably you probably wouldn't even still
01:52:02.700
understand it by then but maybe by the time you see yourself on tiktok in one million views and stuff
01:52:07.420
then you understand do anything for clout wow i just want to know if you have a standpoint on anything
01:52:13.740
you know because you've been too melancholy on anything i just want to know like what's your
01:52:17.020
stance on this the show goes out everyone can see it so we can all watch this back afterwards and see
01:52:23.980
who said what when they said it and yeah so another question that i wanted to ask you guys um we were
01:52:33.020
talking about body count and and body count matters and obviously we're talking about the topic of
01:52:37.340
promiscuity how many bodies makes a woman whore oh god damn oh damn it i'm not gonna answer because
01:52:47.180
it's just i don't know how do you answer that just by answering it by giving a just a number or a number
01:52:54.780
range what makes a whore number wise i mean i mean a source though we're all agreeing that a whore is a
01:53:03.100
extremely promiscuous woman oh shit whoever's watching can we can we put out a number please
01:53:08.380
because i need but we do realize that that's the question i need them to answer based on themselves
01:53:12.780
we just agreed that we're nice so we never know apparently on average isn't it about seven partners
01:53:18.700
yeah but we just what we don't want for women i don't know i googled it the other day this is a very
01:53:23.820
personal question i don't know if there's actually if we google what number makes it what i don't think we're
01:53:29.260
gonna get a number can you google it in your opinions what number is a number is an indication
01:53:37.580
that a woman is overly promiscuous overly so to constitute being what a lot of people would call a
01:53:47.260
whore oh yeah um should we start from you guys because again this comes into the question of you
01:53:56.140
know do women be are women honest with each other because yeah because we lie we all wait wait wait
01:54:00.860
wait wait wait wait wait can we can tell each other okay you're getting fat yeah but can we tell
01:54:06.700
each other you're being a whore so can you imagine a friend asking her friend how many people have you
01:54:10.300
fucked i think they're gonna tell the truth but women see things that happen so women who go out with
01:54:16.300
each other all the time they can see how many times their friend is going home with someone unless you're
01:54:21.580
like yeah i think in this day and age yeah it's gone up i think it's probably about i'd say for women
01:54:30.780
a whore could be minimum 15. okay anything about two hands yeah so we've actually googled how many
01:54:41.580
sexual partners does a woman have to make her a whore what is an acceptable number of sexual partners
01:54:48.780
between four and eight partners is considered an average number of sexual partners for adult men
01:54:54.460
and women and this is from the 13th of march 2023 so that's what the internet says can we do some
01:55:00.620
can we do some self-reflection what would you would you classify yourself outside of this realm that
01:55:06.940
doesn't say hold up right now uh who are you asking everyone just the panel in general would
01:55:11.980
you would you classify yourself outside of i don't need to give my personal information out i'm confused
01:55:16.940
we came to a podcast to talk about this stuff yeah she's she's a dark we can't we can't to talk about
01:55:21.980
i promise you i mean we can start from the men okay oh that's hey that's crazy hey that's crazy
01:55:28.380
i don't know about you but i know you don't know about me hold on hold on hold on because i don't know
01:55:33.500
you but i know him i know hold on hold on hold on hold on hey stay safe
01:55:39.580
can you not laugh so close i've only been with about 25 girls that's it only but why do we need
01:55:51.020
to even jesus christ this is such a personal thing in my opinion yeah i'm i'm not asking for anyone's
01:55:57.100
personal number i'm asking what to you but thank you romeo for sharing thank you set himself up
01:56:03.100
shut himself in the foot i saw you told me about 62. wait hey hey hey hey you told me
01:56:25.820
no we're talking about women specifically because it is more harmful for a woman to have multiple
01:56:30.780
sexual partners no but right now we're talking about the women so let's stick to the topic of
01:56:34.860
conversation we're talking about women because it is a fact that for women being promiscuous is more
01:56:40.300
harmful than it is for a man so we're going to stick to women you said 15. i think anything over two
01:56:47.500
hands is a bit of a problem i don't know what you mean by that where exactly if i if you have to count
01:56:52.460
your bodies over 10. so 15 10. huh so you know you know you know you know when we was in school
01:56:59.500
she means you know we had to do the mental maths thing i got it now and we were doing the multiplication
01:57:03.580
thing and we're doing uh if if you go in simple times oh my bad yeah sorry yeah you've got i didn't
01:57:09.900
i didn't know i was speaking english on the panel remember that yeah i kind of have to dumb things
01:57:12.620
oh you might oh you might don't understand the i mean i can talk normally that's it oh my bad sorry
01:57:16.860
not real blunt gentrification wait wait abbiola
01:57:25.500
how okay how did you pronounce my name abbiola does that know your name no what's your name
01:57:32.780
ibi lola ibi lola no how many bodies constitutes a woman being a whore well i'm not gonna argue on
01:57:41.180
that oh here we go again nobody's a whore let's go fuck 60 people for fuck's sake
01:57:49.020
but i don't want to argue with that so i'm just gonna give a silly a number because i don't
01:57:58.140
understand the topic so i'm just gonna go for hundreds you don't understand what makes a person
01:58:02.140
a whore she said i don't think we're going to get a hundred bodies my name stay safe in it that's what
01:58:09.340
i'm saying man that's it's a cool world out there man that's triple digits it's a hard question three
01:58:17.820
of them but if you had to give it a metric how much is too much that it would be concerning
01:58:25.980
i'll probably say like what
01:58:27.340
enough for her last week i kind of agree with him like the minimum 50 i'll push it to like i don't
01:58:36.860
know that he said 15 15 15 15 sorry 15. oh my goodness the way you just turned red right now
01:58:46.380
you just 15. yeah like 15 20. okay pushing up i would say between 15 and 20. okay
01:58:56.620
so if you know for a fact that your friend say you guys have been going out like out on the town or
01:59:04.620
whatever you do realize can i just say something there's people that pass the point of going out
01:59:09.500
and giving a shit about friends you have to give a shit about yourself i'm talking about from my own
01:59:13.980
personal i'm giving you all the benefit of the doubt here that you're fairly good people and you would
01:59:17.500
like absolutely i can be i can be a good person i'm not need validation to have other people around
01:59:22.060
me to give me that validation right but if you're surrounded by good people you trust
01:59:25.740
their opinion but when you're good enough you trust your own opinion no i completely disagree
01:59:30.620
with that i agree but that's why i'm a bit older than you no offense but when you reach a certain
01:59:34.860
level where you actually understand it a little bit you have that confidence not in an arrogant
01:59:39.340
way no because i'm i'm i'm not saying i've gradually during becomes no i still disagree with you it's
01:59:45.420
fine my point is is that if you are surrounded by good people you're going to trust their opinions so
01:59:51.260
for example before the others so you just brought up age but you just brought up a point of age yes
01:59:57.020
okay so if your mother says something to you you're going to trust your opinion before your mother's
02:00:02.940
no i trust my mother's opinion because she's out of age so why would i trust the opinion of myself
02:00:06.940
knowing i'm 20 years old and 30 years old there's a big difference right but you just said that once
02:00:11.660
you get to a certain age you trust your own opinion yeah or anyone else exactly but you don't reach that
02:00:18.300
confidence until you are a certain age that you understand that i didn't understand that when i
02:00:21.980
was 23 or 25. right do you understand what i'm saying i understand that you're saying you didn't
02:00:26.700
understand that 20 yes and now i'm 30 now i know my own opinion and i trust my opinion then i didn't
02:00:31.980
that's the difference so you can never be wrong she said that's my point that you're essentially
02:00:37.180
saying that once you reach a certain point of experience yes that you you only trust your own
02:00:43.740
feelings and opinions of the world how are you gonna learn and progress in life if you think
02:00:48.220
that when you reach a certain point you know everything as a starter point of course you're
02:00:51.340
gonna have friends and family but you're limited right that's my point that's exactly what i'm saying
02:00:56.220
you're supposed to be surrounded by people who you can trust that they have your best interests at heart
02:01:00.700
but when they say something my no reason my rectum i'm not disagreeing what you're saying i'm
02:01:05.180
just saying you're leading on more towards but it's having validation external factors no no no
02:01:10.060
you presumed that and you inferred that onto what i said that's not what i'm saying we actually
02:01:14.060
agree validation validation is different from from trusting other people's opinion yeah validation
02:01:19.980
is not seeking advice from people validation is something different this is why i asked for a metric
02:01:25.900
on the topic of cause because the question that i'm trying to pose to you guys is
02:01:30.140
are you gonna tell your friend if she's being a whore hey i'm not gonna lie i feel like the same
02:01:36.620
i feel like the numbers that everyone gave out was a way of separating themselves from whoredom
02:01:42.940
i could be potentially wrong i could be potentially wrong but i feel like what everyone presumed on this
02:01:49.900
stage and again i'm talking to both men and women on this stage so please don't be upset
02:01:54.860
i think everyone gave numbers that made themselves look good i agree because i i
02:02:01.340
i personally would have said five even though i know i'm way past that number because i'm
02:02:06.220
i'm i don't i don't have this hubris to not be able to see where i'm wrong as well just because
02:02:13.340
i say five is the number doesn't mean i can't accept the fact that i am well past that number but that's
02:02:18.620
a problem a lot of women have even though once they are past something they they seem to almost
02:02:24.780
think like if they agree to the truth then they are almost shooting themselves in the foot so i get
02:02:30.300
what you're saying i get what you're saying all right it goes it goes back to what i said at the
02:02:33.900
start which is accountability can you ask what you just wanted to ask me again would you tell your
02:02:39.180
friend if she's being whore yeah same thing as far because i think obviously the conversation went
02:02:44.220
somewhere else absolutely i think it comes from a concerned place but again us being delusional
02:02:51.500
within ourselves we can then be delusional within other friends right from from like a female
02:02:57.100
perspective now when do you become true is it more easier for us to be truthful towards ourselves or
02:03:02.540
towards others because we can be in denial more towards ourselves than actually like son or the
02:03:08.460
friends family whatever whoever's around us yeah both both what do you think
02:03:14.460
the would you tell them yeah yeah 100 just has anyone actually been in a situation where they've had
02:03:21.660
to tell before you call cap yeah i have actually been in a situation that how did that go how did
02:03:27.980
that go like obviously again i wasn't straight out like you're a whore no but i was like look you might
02:03:34.460
be one you've been moving you've been moving a bit mad lately like how do you even say it by the way
02:03:40.540
wait wait wait wait wait like you're moving mad a bit like this come from a place of concern i'm not
02:03:45.660
judging you in any sense like this is at the end of the day this is what you want to do but i'm just
02:03:49.180
telling you and how did that friend react she was like she took it well like she wasn't upset she knew
02:03:53.740
that i was coming from a good place she knew that i wasn't sat there trying like trying to you know
02:03:57.740
shame her like i was did she change her behavior no no so you told her she was spreading community
02:04:04.780
cheeks and she just accepted it like that and just kept spreading community cheeks if they if
02:04:08.540
they choose to do that that's not her fault that's not my fault i'm not i'm not saying it is i just
02:04:13.020
wanted to i just wanted some more clarification you told her she was spreading community cheeks and
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she just did more and she she's still considered but she wanted to that's the same telling someone
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oh you're you're getting weight you're gaining weight and then still treating to ekfc and mcdonald's
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some more power to them man hey big up them boy there do you get me yeah what's what's the issue
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with this thing where people say um i'm not judging you oh i don't want them to feel like
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you are absolutely supposed to judge your friends like what's what's this thing that women are so
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obsessed with oh i don't want to judge her i don't want to and it goes back to what i was saying women
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are not really friends with each other not real because the reality is among among my guy friends i
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don't have a lot of guy friends but the very few friends i have if i'm doing some madness they're
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absolutely going to call me out on it and judge me for it how many years have you had them
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possible way ever how many years you had them for for like for a very long time so they're
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absolutely going to judge me and tell me bro what the hell are you doing get your right in fact that
02:05:10.620
there are times where and this is sometimes among guys if if when when we're coming up as kids and
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want to go out obviously we're going out to go and meet girls i know if you dress in some weird way
02:05:20.060
you're not going out with us bro go back home and change bro like go back home and change girls
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will allow their friends to cut yeah girls girls won't girls won't tell their friends i'm in the
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mini dress that is not me it takes one woman the boys will even the boys will even take you back to
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your house and wait outside for you make sure you change but that's how out listen i think friendship
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has changed completely it depends on your culture no no no i just don't think women have the same
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friendships as men well that's why i get along with like personally like i have more guy friends that i get
02:05:49.180
along with because it's more simple black and white children women are very over complicated why did you not do
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this why did you not do that that like the most simplest dumbest little things and i understand
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that because we're wired unfortunately like that but even friendships these days regardless of men or
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women what is what makes somebody a friend these days because everybody walks with uh intent to gain
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do you know let me ask you a little question yeah because i can i can almost guarantee if i ask every
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man in this in this room right here they can say at least on one hand they've probably got maybe two to
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three friends that they've known for like the longest if you've had the same friends over 10
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years you're not real in my opinion pardon what huh that's what what are you talking about more than
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like a group a group sorry not just one individual if you've got the same group of people let's say five
02:06:39.020
to ten people average you've got the same five to ten people and you're still rolling and doing the
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same shit you've not grown in my opinion yeah one or two people they've known for over 10 years 15 years
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maybe but if you've got the same people you've not grown my life it just it just sounds like you
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lot are bad friends no no no let her explain why and then i i'll let you guys go why why why why do
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you why do you hold that opinion because every single individual is unique every single person is
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gonna have different interests so you're gonna naturally divert to a different growth grow apart
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grow apart but that doesn't mean a bad thing it's not like i'm doing better than you but we all go
02:07:13.340
through life lessons at different points in life right you might have more trauma at a younger age
02:07:18.620
i might have more trauma at a later age we're all designed differently our paths are gonna be
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different if you've got the same motherfuckers around you for and you've got more than five of
02:07:26.620
them in your group my love you've not you've not achieved anything in life but what the less
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five people that you have no there's less no no i'm sorry but reality reality is those five people
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are not going to be doing and thinking the same way as you there's always going to be one person that's
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a bit more advanced or walking in a different direction in my opinion if you're all sugar coating
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crap to be like yeah yeah you're good you're good to one another you've you've not evolved in my
02:07:51.020
opinion the reality is you don't really like you can't even really have like 10 real friends anyways
02:07:56.460
so that your point is no but when you're 15 years old and when you're 30 years old you go through a
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shift if you've got the same friends at 20 and the same individuals at 30 you can you can have you
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can have one or two lifelong friends yeah one or two yeah but she's talking about a group
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yeah but no one was talking about i'm who has a group of friends for their whole life anyways
02:08:17.740
i call i call cap i've got the same group of friends six people for about from since we was in
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primary school and we've all grown and he's jealous of who and who's done more than nobody
02:08:29.260
who's nobody giving of who hold on hold on nobody's jealous i'd love to see one of you
02:08:34.220
do you know what get all your friends let's sit down let me have a conversation we can definitely
02:08:37.500
do that let's see who's who do you want do you want to know what i'll tell you uh first of all
02:08:40.860
none of us are jealous of each other because we hold each other accountable one minute we all hold
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each other accountable right if one of my bridges are sitting down either overweight broke
02:08:52.380
or your hairline isn't being done by the correct barber i'm going to tell you blood we're brethren
02:08:58.380
we're mandem we're far gone from the days where we used to be on the playground and we used to back
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each other and we used to do this kind of stuff we're big men now but why don't you want to be
02:09:08.220
sitting with somebody that's done more and bigger than you to get influence instead of sitting down
02:09:12.380
with the same people first of all that's a woman's worth this i'm saying first of all what your
02:09:17.500
business first of all what you're talking about is what the person can do for me i'm not worrying
02:09:24.940
about what my bridges can do for me exactly my bridges are here to be my bridges if i'm doing
02:09:29.980
something that's an absolute madness i expect you as one of my bridges so let's talk to what the
02:09:34.140
whole conversation was about we were talking about if a real friend will tell you if you're fat or ugly
02:09:38.540
or whatever the hell it is to say it in your face but then if you're not achieving your full
02:09:43.740
is potential isn't that the same thing oh i'm not gonna lie i don't know what question you just
02:09:48.380
asked no i'm saying the question that we all we were talking about was would you tell your friend
02:09:52.540
if they're fat would you tell i said that i said that from yes long time ago so we can we can
02:09:56.860
entire that same thing as somebody knowing your full potential but i might be intimidated but i might not
02:10:02.780
tell you what your full potential is to see you grow so that sounds like that person isn't your
02:10:06.540
brethren and that's not the people that's not the people that i'm talking about no no no no no no
02:10:11.420
what you're talking about is you're talking about your friendships from your point of view no no no
02:10:15.020
what time what time one time okay in general you're talking about everybody else's friendships from
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everybody else's point of view that has nothing of people everyone's self-centered
02:10:28.140
no one's real with one another this is my point sorry
02:10:30.380
no one's real even friends aren't real with one another they're gonna allow me to finish before
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you cut me off baby no one quiet you off carry on talking don't don't you you don't pay that don't
02:10:37.900
play you cut me off like three times you cut me off like three times when i was actually trying to
02:10:41.980
make a point well i think she likes you know probably you know it's a bit crazy i'm i'm not single
02:10:46.860
anyway anyway well i'm not breaks sounds like a new problem sounds like a new problem
02:10:51.340
anyway what i'm trying to let me start crying now sounds like a new problem anyway what i'm trying to say is
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it sounds like you don't have real friends it sounds like you don't have real friends because
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again no matter the situation that i'm in with the mandem and i'm pretty sure
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we're going to sit down and we're going to wait for adults to have some decorum because clearly
02:11:12.780
when someone is making a point nobody can just sit back and relax i'm looking at everyone i look
02:11:18.860
didn't i look over there didn't i look over you over here so why are you making things up
02:11:25.660
can you just listen to the point as opposed all right all right let me let me let me let me allow
02:11:30.780
her to finish we can't it's it's clear her body count is over 15 but that's the only reason why she
02:11:35.580
gave the out like what we're doing here allow it man i'm giving i'm giving you that doesn't that
02:11:41.180
doesn't mean anything to me i'm giving you respect give me the same respect than yours i'm giving you
02:11:45.500
respect give me the same respect it's simple guys guys guys i allowed you to finish allow a man to
02:11:51.100
finish do you have that lack of the courtroom what are we doing hello can we stop can you let him
02:11:55.980
finish thank you i have i didn't know you didn't you cut me off like five times just allow it man
02:12:01.340
every time he's speaking you just have to say something just let him finish now we're not against
02:12:04.140
each other we're just making points like we don't need to go long story short listen if you've if
02:12:09.820
you've got over a certain amount of friends and you can't handle those people it sounds like a you
02:12:13.340
problem i've had the same five to six friends for about 20 years we all went to the same primary
02:12:18.220
school nobody in my friendship group is fat nobody in my friendship group is broke nobody in my
02:12:24.380
friendship group is a deadbeat dad nobody in my friendship group is just a deadbeat in general
02:12:29.100
do you want to know why because i don't allow the mandem around me to be degenerate i don't allow the
02:12:34.380
mandem to sit down and be dickheads and be doing things that i just genuinely don't accept for myself
02:12:39.340
that's why i'm saying our friendships are different you see i'm saying you'll turn around
02:12:43.900
to me and tell me oh if you have a certain amount of friends over 20 no you're chatting it just has
02:12:47.900
to get a bad friend but i've had the same bridges from since i came just just after i came to this
02:12:53.340
country and i went to school at like nine years old i've had the same regions and we all hold each
02:12:59.340
have a fucking accountable i think so how the hell are you going to come and turn around to me and
02:13:02.940
tell me what are you talking about i hear what you're saying i think it's really interesting to
02:13:07.420
to highlight that perhaps there is a difference between male friendships and female friendships
02:13:12.700
and this is definitely something i've seen i mean we've all established that we can agree that
02:13:16.620
there is a degree of lying that goes on in female friendships females lie to each other
02:13:20.380
and i do think it's really interesting what you said about you you you argued it's a business
02:13:24.780
perspective perhaps uh in a business context you know you might surround yourself with people who
02:13:29.340
are doing their business is doing better than yours because you want your business to succeed
02:13:33.260
but you you did apply it to friendships and you said that you like to surround yourself with people
02:13:37.020
who are doing better than you because you want to emulate their success that emulate it's another
02:13:44.380
word learn right you want to learn whatever it is that they know that you don't know and that's
02:13:49.340
why they're more successful and let them criticize me instead of people that aren't really a level where
02:13:53.900
i'm at right but that is a very female thing to do you know that's it's hypergamy essentially it's
02:13:59.900
you know the fact that we we date across and above and from what it sounds like you're saying
02:14:05.100
is that you you pick and choose your friends on that same basis and i think that's the point that he
02:14:09.580
was trying to make is that him and his friends are just friends because they've been associated with
02:14:15.260
each other since they were you said primary school right and and they've held each other to a level
02:14:21.100
that they've been able to come up together um i think where the conversation got a bit derailed
02:14:27.740
is when you made the statement of if you've got more than 10 friends for a certain amount of time
02:14:33.420
yeah right so you i i just want to understand like why why it is that you've come to to that conclusion
02:14:40.620
you know obviously i you would imagine at least that because you're saying it is because you've had
02:14:45.340
some kind of personal experience like that is that the case for you i mean it's it is reality
02:14:49.660
when you look at it this and you're not going to be the same person from a certain age let's say
02:14:53.980
within 10 years but neither are those people so they could be changing as well but absolutely but
02:14:57.820
the thing is our day-to-day lives our interests our mentality our knowledge will shape our social
02:15:03.900
aspect right so if you're going to sit down with the same people and each individual might not
02:15:08.220
understand one another there's going to be more conflict involved there's going to be less
02:15:12.060
exchange of the same but all of those individuals still have their own individual lives outside of
02:15:16.060
the friendship that's not it unfortunately the reality is that might be your reality but we've
02:15:20.540
just got a guy right here who's saying actually no his reality is the same but i don't see that
02:15:25.820
as growth in my opinion that's just my own opinion so you're saying it's right or wrong so you're
02:15:29.420
saying we haven't grown is that what you're saying in my opinion no yeah okay and you know what
02:15:34.940
you're entitled to your opinion but listen a lot of influential people if you read a lot of people
02:15:39.020
not necessarily in a business aspect more even in a normal psychological aspect if you're resigning
02:15:47.420
with the same thing at a certain age and the same thing after let's say 10 years 15 years
02:15:54.540
it's not in my opinion it's not considered as growth okay and that's fine and i'm not talking about one
02:15:59.260
or two people yes it's a normal thing to have one or two people that you've grown up with i'm saying
02:16:02.780
if you're surrounded by the same environment the same group of people going to the same places in the
02:16:07.420
same thing in the same job i mean the repetition i don't see that as growing okay i'll say two
02:16:12.460
things that sounds like a lack of accountability because if you're in the same place because of the
02:16:16.700
people around you yeah sounds like a you problem number two it sounds like you're just a bad friend
02:16:23.260
not necessarily you but just in general for the point you're saying if you don't have a good amount
02:16:27.820
of long-term friends it just sounds like you're a bad friend you can't blame me for having the same
02:16:31.980
amount of friends from primary school and we've all grown up we're all a lot of us are fathers all
02:16:38.220
with the partners all doing well all have businesses all of them are doing good like you can't turn
02:16:45.260
around to me and tell me that's not a good thing or that i haven't i haven't grown because of that
02:16:49.580
situation in general all i'm saying is i feel like you need to equate what you're saying to maybe your
02:16:55.100
situation or or maybe or maybe what we should do is we should just stop making absolute statements
02:17:02.300
and just speak for yourself because when you speak for yourself what you're saying might resonate to
02:17:07.660
a lot more people than opposed to saying that this is happening with more than 51 of the people that
02:17:13.020
you're talking about always remember that when we're making these points if it's not more than 51
02:17:18.220
percent if you can't quantify that it's more than 51 don't say most don't say all don't say any of
02:17:25.580
these sweeping statements just speak about yourself so i have a question so um what was the metric you
02:17:32.380
used was it 10 years if you've been friends with the same people from 20 to 30 right so uh
02:17:40.860
no the group right okay so you said you're 30 you're 30 okay and and how many friends
02:17:48.060
would you say are in your sort of immediate friendship group friends or acquaintances
02:17:53.420
friends about five about five so in 10 years are you going to bend those five people off
02:17:59.100
yeah if i don't see the same oh that's resolution of morals and way of life and if i can't resonate
02:18:05.500
to you with my own basic morals and basic way of life and basically way of thought yeah of course
02:18:11.340
there's going to be conflict have you gotten along with people that have different political opinions
02:18:14.700
you're going to yeah one of my closest friends is a massive liberal shout out to hannah you annoy the
02:18:19.020
fuck out of me good but you get along but this this is a new example which is brilliant but
02:18:22.620
unfortunately older generations for some reason people disconnect because of religious political
02:18:28.300
whatever financial views that's unfortunately because i i don't disagree with people just breaking
02:18:35.100
up a friendship for the sake of having different opinions that's the opposite of what i'm saying
02:18:39.100
but i'm saying the reality that's become the reaction between people i don't i'm not a fake
02:18:45.900
person to be around somebody just for the sake of having a friend people are going to change just
02:18:51.260
because i'm not friends with somebody doesn't mean it's a negative thing doesn't mean i hate you
02:18:54.380
and i've told you to get out of my life everyone's direction goes in different paths that's my point
02:19:00.060
that's what i'm trying to say no i get what you're saying and i completely agree you know people change
02:19:04.460
over time people's morals change people's life philosophies change people grow and evolve but
02:19:11.100
the problem that i have is just with the statement that you know you haven't grown if you still have
02:19:15.500
the same friends for 10 years because you know group not friends sorry i correct myself group group of
02:19:22.940
people it just concerns me because you know you you said you have these five friends now well if you're
02:19:30.700
following your own logic that means in in 10 years you're gonna have to get rid of them because you
02:19:34.940
just said it's inevitable that people will change over 10 years but when i'm 40 years old we're not
02:19:39.340
going to be doing the same things that i'm going to be doing today right so why would i resonate with
02:19:43.260
the same thing that you're probably not going to be friends with them in 10 years who knows i hope so
02:19:47.500
but i'll everyone's life goes in different directions right that's mad how many drinks you had man
02:19:54.300
the thing i just find funny about what you're saying is like i get it that people change and people
02:19:59.100
grow but that's i'm hoping for the best i'm talking about my point is my point is the only reason
02:20:04.300
why i would beam someone off as a friend is if they are growing in a negative direction yes exactly
02:20:11.020
no but that's not what you said you said people but there's a reason why i've gotten rid of people
02:20:14.540
because of that no but my point is the way you framed it that's where the problem lies okay i said
02:20:19.500
you said if you because you initially made this like you said a very sweeping statement like
02:20:25.020
people grow people change so if you're with the same people over 10 years then obviously that
02:20:29.580
doesn't signify growth which is weird because the reality is you guys can actually grow and you might
02:20:35.420
not even have the same ideologies but that doesn't mean you can't still be friends the only reason why
02:20:41.100
you probably will not be friends with someone is if maybe they're growing in a negative direction
02:20:46.220
that's different from them growing in a different direction someone can grow in a different direction and
02:20:51.420
we can still i think i phrase myself wrong because when i met yeah like in my opinion people that
02:20:56.140
i've gone rid of is because they've gone through it they've gone towards more of a negative thing
02:21:00.300
so when i mean growth i mean you're either resonating with somebody or you're not yeah so i i
02:21:06.940
think you should so when i mean when you're not i mean in a negative aspect yes so you should actually
02:21:11.260
lead with the fact that you lose friendships when people grow negatively yeah not that yeah not that
02:21:19.180
you are inevitably you are inevitably going to be become you know you're inevitably inevitably not
02:21:26.460
going to be friends with people after a certain number of years yeah that doesn't make sense
02:21:30.060
because of yeah what you just said you've just framed it perfectly
02:21:35.740
well that's good that we all managed to reach
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um uh on the the topic of of women and promiscuity in in my opinion something that's going to have a
02:21:48.300
negative impact on you this this whole conversation stemmed from the question of
02:21:52.380
what makes a woman a whore i i think it's going to have a negative impact on you once you have over
02:21:57.260
five bodies and i have that basis on the fact that women struggle to pair bond uh significantly after
02:22:03.740
they have had five sexual partners so that's my personal opinion everyone else has their own numbers i
02:22:10.220
think it's a the numbers that have been given and perhaps maybe more accustomed to the current
02:22:14.620
climate i don't know but but that's my my personal take on that so if at the moment we know that you
02:22:22.220
know women are sleeping around a lot more and promiscuity has increased what are men supposed to expect
02:22:29.980
from women in the modern day and age you know what what could we all agree on are some factors that
02:22:36.140
would make a good wife because we spoke about commitment and we said how that is disappearing i mean
02:22:44.300
some might argue that there's a correlation between the fact that women are much more
02:22:47.260
promiscuous now and perhaps maybe that's why men don't want to commit because they're
02:22:50.860
they're worried that this promiscuous behavior isn't going to stop so i want to hear from each
02:22:55.820
of you what are some things that you think makes a good wife that to clarify you would a man you
02:23:02.700
care about in your life your father your son your granddad your uncle whoever you you would see
02:23:07.980
these characteristics in a woman and you would go yeah i i think that's wife material
02:23:14.300
i think a woman who just generally cares about her family just the way that she you view her and see
02:23:22.940
how she treats her family is just i think that's a clear indicator how she'll treat yours so family
02:23:28.220
values yeah 100 family values what else i think obviously the i think loyalty plays a massive part in
02:23:34.700
it um we touch base about you know commitment and i think you know and being non-committal is obviously
02:23:41.660
you're not really wanting to be loyal to someone so i think 100 you have to be loyal in a relationship
02:23:46.540
i think loyalty is very rare in modern so how can a so i i agree 100 of course but how can a man
02:23:53.660
discern if a woman is loyal or not because some men might look at a woman who has say slept with two
02:23:58.780
people and say she's probably going to be loyal to me and they might look at a woman who slept with say
02:24:03.660
30 people and say chances are she's probably not going to be loyal to me that's what i i know from
02:24:09.660
hearing men say but in in your opinion you know how can a man tell if a woman's loyal or not
02:24:15.340
i think it's just through her actions like i think a lot of the times people just listen to the words
02:24:19.900
and never really actually view the actions and i had to complete understand what you're saying like
02:24:23.660
you mean you may assume that someone's got two bodies may be more loyal than someone that's got
02:24:27.900
30 but that's probably not the case so i think in the sense it's just the way her actions are towards
02:24:34.220
you and very much so like yeah as i said but isn't the number of people she slept with part of her
02:24:40.940
actions yeah but these are the people that she's in a relationship with like these maybe just be
02:24:45.740
people that she's just having fun with that's the point because i find it funny when like when people
02:24:53.260
separate loyalty to only when they are in a relationship for you to be loyal i i don't think
02:25:00.140
it's it's easy for someone that's had many partners to be loyal because that just means that
02:25:06.780
you you prioritize your own personal pleasure over actually taking care of other people
02:25:14.300
yeah so we we know for a fact that uh women who who sleep around and have more sexual partners they
02:25:21.340
the numbers for them are a lot higher in things like divorce the the happiness in their relationships
02:25:26.220
is a lot less um so actually it is a bit of a fact that the higher your body count the less likely
02:25:33.500
you are to to be loyal so would you say that body count comes into wife material again you can you can
02:25:42.860
you can hear my facts you don't have to say that you want to make your judgment off of that i'm just
02:25:48.700
asking for for you and for say a guy that you you care about i'm talking like a family member
02:25:53.980
they come to you and they say look i'm thinking about proposing to this woman this is who she is
02:25:59.820
you know is that something that would make a difference to you oh yeah you know if if my
02:26:05.660
brother came up to me and was like oh like i've got mrs but she's her body counts mad crazy i'd be like
02:26:12.060
i think i think yeah you'll you'll pause and have a bit of a a wifey loves her
02:26:16.700
don't put me on the spot like that okay so you you've said family values loyalty body count anything
02:26:33.260
else i think it's also just being a good person overall i think like just having having broad
02:26:40.060
statement what constitutes a good person like just having you know good good good morals like just
02:26:46.620
being respectful like respect i think respect's a massive thing as well and not just the people
02:26:52.700
that you're very intimate and close with but just respect in a whole general aspect with other people
02:26:58.540
like i don't really see today the people keeping the door open for other people people holding the
02:27:03.580
elevator people helping some men don't do that anymore because uh women bite their heads off when
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they do it wait men what i still don't do that a lot of men won't open the door for women anymore
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because there's been numerous stories where women have absolutely bitten men's heads off i remember
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one of my old bosses held the door i've had it a lot one of my old bosses actually held the door open
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for someone once and uh this woman just completely ripped into him was like you think i can't open
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the door for myself what you think because i'm a woman you need to open the door i would have just
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walked away man like if you can't take that kind of courtesy i would have just walked away
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i agree with you i would have shut the door i actually think i actually think men that don't do that
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anymore uh the weak men we speak about because the reality is it don't matter if women have
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completely lost their mind if you've been raised right as a man you're still going to be who you
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are so if i were to open the door for a woman and she's ratting off i'll probably just say something
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nasty to her and walk away or i'll probably that's on a bad day but on a good day i'll probably just
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even ignore her and just walk away but it's not going to stop me from opening the door for the next
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person no i i agree it is definitely something that shouldn't die out my point is is that it is
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dying out and and i think that that's potentially a reason why um but yeah respect i i completely
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agree with you so you've said we'll go for one more let's go for five so you've said respect family
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values loyalty body count and you said good morals but it's a i want to know what constitutes good morals
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so respect great uh so what can a woman do that that makes her wife material to a guy
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stop can i pass the sun she wants to phone a friend what makes five things that make a good wife
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five things so what have i said respect you've said respect family values loyalty and body count so
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far and i said oh yeah i did say loyalty already yeah yeah so you've got one more left nice but i
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can't actually think i don't know being a good cook i don't know man what you mean i don't know a little
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something fun i come today guys because i i want to know what what women think makes a a good wife
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versus what what men think i actually i'm actually stuck on this that's okay that's okay we can pass it on
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so easy i will let the man speak first and then oh she always does this oh bruv you first um
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caring warm uh good personality um supportive as well as um one more thing i would say
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uh strong because like physically strong emotionally strong
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oh no no just just emotionally strong because like you you just have to go through a lot when
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you have kids obviously i'm not i'm not speaking from a place where there's like a single parent
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household i'm speaking of a place where you're there's both parents in the household that type
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of thing in general you have to be strong like sleeping sleepless nights um taking care of the kids
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discipline um so the qualities that would make a good mother someone who's nurturing someone who's
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caring and someone who has the strength to to see that out yeah okay what makes a good wife all right
02:30:22.460
good personality there's someone you can get along with yeah good sex very sex is like
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it's up there it has to be like it's very very important but at the same time considering her body
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can't right considering her body count yes but i don't need body count she's already said it
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personality sex she knows how to cook yeah i need a woman that can cook yeah not saying
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that i can't cook i'm just saying we both need to cook um she has to have a good sense of humor
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yeah talking about me huh and she has a she has to have a good set of teeth okay yeah interesting
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one yeah interesting one okay so you're the last person no second to last person to answer this
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question uh what makes a good wife if you had to break it down into five things uh say you i don't
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know do you have a brother i have a brother okay your brother comes to you and says i've got this girl
02:31:24.860
i'm thinking about proposing what's five things that you want to hear this woman's got i mean like
02:31:29.580
the guys are mentioning i think basic things like cooking clean in my opinion that's an empowerment
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for a woman because like that's a woman makes a home like a house a home sorry a woman makes groceries
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into a food do you know me into a meal yeah yeah we we add that that feminine energy and i think when
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a woman is in her own feminine energy it's very beautiful but it takes a man to let her be in her
02:31:52.860
feminine energy i think that's when a woman's vulnerable not vulnerable in that sense that we
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think is a negative thing i think vulnerability can be misconstrued in many ways i think when a
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woman feels relaxed and in her own feminine energy she can create okay so cooking cleaning cooking
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cleaning and must one of the majority like one of the most specific things in my opinion is a woman
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that's in tuned with emotions and reality so if she sees her man come home from work so she's
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nurturing not true but not but not not necessarily just nurture because nurturing can imply two
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different things i think in tune okay being in tune to reality circumstances emotions okay so i'm gonna
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say nurturing so she yeah knows how to nurture a man if he needs her emotional support yes so she can cook
02:32:41.500
clean she's nurturing yes listen as well listening is a big thing and women have a problem with listening
02:32:46.860
in my opinion agree because it's very defensive it's very like i'm me i'm this like we all lead from
02:32:52.540
ego unfortunately and men and women like we all kind of like the reason why conflict happens i think
02:32:57.180
because we lead ego can come from pain as well by the way and trauma so we all react from like let's
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say somebody has mentioned a specific subject we as an individual as a person not men or women we might
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react because of our own experience okay so last one loving all right can i add independence because
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i only had four cards of independence as well so if your brother came to you and said that he he has a
02:33:26.380
girl who's thinking about proposing to you you would like to know that she's independent yes as yeah but
02:33:31.900
what do you mean independent financially independent like what do you mean what does that look like
02:33:35.740
so for me independence like in the sense that like she won't just dump her whole world in him like she's
02:33:40.940
still is able to stand on her own because as but that's more vulnerable how now as you said hey
02:33:47.260
like women go through a lot of emotions like sleepless nights and that so she needs to be able to hold
02:33:52.300
her own and not and be able to look after the household i would i it's what you're saying emotionally
02:33:57.100
stable we say you can't what wait what do you say that let her finish you can't look after the household
02:34:02.700
the weekend i'm saying that oh yeah emotionally stable but like also like into yeah emotionally
02:34:09.820
stable so not to emotionally depend on the husband yes okay yeah that's a good one actually i i i agree
02:34:16.460
with that i think uh women too often go into relationships with the idea that the man is
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supposed to fix all of her problems yeah um and i and i think that actually know a lot of your problems
02:34:25.340
are your own and that a partner is there to help you get through them yourself um a partner isn't going
02:34:30.060
to be ever be the answer for you so yeah the last person is in the same place yeah as a for me that's
02:34:37.020
a weird dynamic by the way we haven't got time for that one today guys i'm sorry one of the most
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important thing for me i will start with um principle and values i would think i will say that is something
02:34:50.460
important when a woman have a principle values i will also agree on the great listener nurturing and
02:34:58.380
uh another important thing for me is a woman who is comfortable in her feminine energy and yeah
02:35:07.340
one more that's four with vagina yeah why ain't any of you don't just said yeah
02:35:13.100
a woman like a demon can you just thank me for saying that by the way my last point would be
02:35:23.260
a woman who is in touch with her intuition which is femininity
02:35:28.060
hey wait hey bro do you eat the box though of course i do but i don't know if i can eat
02:35:32.860
she is mining do you eat the what sorry what do you eat the box eat the box the vagina the vaginal
02:35:38.780
the vaginal what do you mean is that what you call it is that what you call it the box
02:35:43.020
let her give her last characteristic sorry i already give everything now so obviously everybody
02:35:49.100
was talking in there but uh we're talking about more important things like the box no no no let her
02:35:54.060
her current yeah i believe i already said what i need to say i talked about principle you should
02:36:00.300
do politics you know jesus christ principle and values i get all the time cut off as you can see
02:36:06.620
guys no no no carry on carry on so yeah i talk about principle and values principle and values
02:36:15.020
feminine i think i'm done because uh she's finished interesting every time that i'm talking there's
02:36:20.940
somebody that needs to say something i don't what i found particularly interesting and i think we
02:36:25.580
kind of alluded to it here was uh the the point of listening it was kind of alluding to it um but
02:36:31.020
what i found really interesting is that no one said the ability to obey and submit and the reason i
02:36:35.740
bring this up is because actually it was part of marriage vows so you've got you know till death to
02:36:40.060
us part uh for richer for poorer come on but that's a part of our feminine energy though femininity is
02:36:55.260
to obey in my opinion for me it's i have very 2023 specific um values because we live in a crazy time
02:37:05.100
yep so one it has to be a woman who has mental fortitude to stand against the crazy times we live
02:37:12.940
in so for instance my kids cannot be fat my kids cannot be sold into this stupid gender identity
02:37:24.060
politics all that crap would you would you allow your kids to go to the social school let me finish please
02:37:29.420
so if if there's anything coming up with all these problems where my kids are asking those questions
02:37:35.020
she has to be the kind of woman that tells them this is right this is wrong that is the most important
02:37:40.860
thing in 2023 for me because we live in a time where the government society is just trying to
02:37:47.980
chatter our kids like cattle and just use them and use them for their agenda so she has to be a woman
02:37:53.260
that understands right from wrong there has there's no standing on the fence that's one number two she
02:38:01.340
has to be a woman that like you said obeys so she has to understand that i am the head of the family
02:38:07.820
and i make the final decisions but king is changing now because the woman who has rightfulness would
02:38:13.820
think i will never take my personally if i had children when i have children i wouldn't take them to
02:38:19.100
stay at school because i don't need them to be brainwashed and you're your time you're talking
02:38:24.220
about a woman that is i don't think that's the problem the problem is not the schools yeah the
02:38:28.140
schools are part of the problem the problem is because parents are not involved in education yeah
02:38:34.220
at the end of the day if a child is brought up in a home where they are equipped with the right
02:38:37.900
ideologies and the right values they can go to any school and they're going to be able to fight off
02:38:42.460
unfortunately there's more influence by schools than because parents but if the parents have
02:38:47.180
enough influence that's not going to happen and that's the reason why the reason why there's more
02:38:52.060
influence on kids by the parents is because we live in a society of weak people yes we live in a
02:38:58.140
society where people can't say what weak-minded you mean one second we live in a society where people
02:39:03.900
can't say right from wrong people are too scared to say this because oh they'll get cancelled and all
02:39:08.780
that crap when i was growing up although it's not as bad as this now but we had a lot of weird ideas
02:39:15.100
that we learned from school but obviously because of the way we grew up we knew this is obviously
02:39:21.180
nonsense we can't move along with this direction and back then it was very easy to separate you know
02:39:26.220
that okay these are the crazy people stay away from them but now it's kind of like oh well we just
02:39:30.460
have to talk about it now yeah let's nah yeah we used to have a class for them whoever is going to
02:39:35.420
in my opinion if you're a good wife you have to be able to stand your ground and uphold the family values
02:39:42.380
but do you find it more attractive a woman that knows how to cook and clean than a woman that
02:39:46.460
doesn't no well is it more attractive for like men are you more attracted towards a woman that
02:39:53.820
knows how to cook and clean and maintain a home than a woman that doesn't is are the comparison
02:39:58.940
like different listen are you more like why why attracted the question the main question is for me
02:40:04.220
personally why why does a woman not know how to cook and clean but that exactly that's the main
02:40:08.380
question listen listen unless you grew up jamaican there is no other reason for you not to know how
02:40:15.900
to cook and clean yeah which is the western society unless you grew up jamaican there is no other listen
02:40:22.140
don't why do you think you're jamaican listen i grew up in our bay and i was born i was born i was
02:40:26.380
put in the kitchen no obviously i'm a jamaican man i come from that mentality a little bit better than
02:40:31.340
the women in our community do you see what i'm saying like you don't see the women
02:40:34.460
in the flip-flops in the and the the string vests can we can we make a difference here
02:40:38.460
jerking the chicken just see what i'm saying you can see the man i'm doing it with the open-toed
02:40:42.060
jesus are you saying this is black and white or cultural wise by the way because there's so many
02:40:46.140
cultures i'm saying there's women like uh like me i'm talking about from my own experience that
02:40:50.860
were born straight metaphorically speaking put in a kitchen to have an uh a life that serves the men
02:40:59.500
and the family which i prefer which i prefer by the way again again i was brought up with
02:41:04.700
the british mentality and the albanian mentality so i've both obviously obviously our cultures are
02:41:09.580
different in it no they're not they're very not it's not it different how so because again put it
02:41:14.860
this way there is no man on this earth that's going to feed you more than jamaican man
02:41:20.220
now can we just i beg your pardon i'm sure i'm sure but i'm just saying the jerk chicken the rice
02:41:25.420
and peas the curry goat the oxtail the stew peas the planting what are you talking about what do you
02:41:31.420
mean well look guys we're going to cut the conversations we're going to cut the conversation
02:41:35.980
that we've been speaking that's crazy irrelevant
02:41:43.260
the point is oh any competent adult in this world should know how to cook how to clean yes yes i agree
02:41:51.020
especially different cultures have all different foods which is
02:41:55.340
lovely and amazing but no matter where you come from what part of the world you should know how
02:42:01.740
to cook and clean unfortunately that to me says that you are incompetent yes i'm in control of your
02:42:08.780
own self as well no you're not in control if you can't cook and clean is incompetence yeah so we can all
02:42:16.460
agree on that look i think uh if you are gonna marry a lady she should definitely be able to cook and
02:42:21.740
clean i think that's just a basic competent adult i think that she should be able to obey
02:42:26.460
um i think that she should have a level of obedience to her and we've all mentioned the
02:42:30.460
qualities that make up femininity such as nurturing caring loving um the ability to just kind of let the
02:42:36.860
man lead and i think that's something that a lot of modern women today struggle to do but that's just
02:42:41.740
what i think why don't you guys let me know what you thought of this conversation in the comments before
02:42:46.060
we close up the show i'm going to hand over to you all to plug your socials wherever you want
02:42:49.980
to do king shall we read the super chats all right so i'm going to read the super charts and then
02:43:01.900
we'll close out the show um death proof bomb zero one only fans is not a black it's not a bad platform
02:43:09.420
modern woman circa 2023 say no more modern woman yeah you sit no only fans is not a bad bad platform
02:43:18.540
in quotes yes um neither is dog mpa a single a single mother only fans pimp she's a demon
02:43:27.820
hashtag demon time he's talking about hey say names guys let him guys please enter black dragon
02:43:35.100
relationships and marriages will continue to fail until men and women begin to understand their
02:43:39.580
biological nature and operate from that standpoint instead of conforming to arbitrary society standards
02:43:46.860
enter black dragon anyone believe that marriage is the highest honor dog mpa baby mama with the wig
02:43:54.700
on the couch is a demon the snake tongue long-tailed sharp fang fire-breathing demon
02:44:00.700
one guys guys please guys guys please can you control yourself um an exorcism is needed tonight
02:44:10.620
90 free topi men fear one question i'm waiting for the quotation what if women fear quotation why
02:44:18.860
the only way for women to be honest is if you disguise her voice face location and can't be recorded
02:44:25.180
thank you zango z zango zy blondie talks too much enter black dragon i was waiting for a blondie
02:44:33.100
can you please just let me finish enter black dragon wife equals to woman in feminine energy
02:44:39.900
100 in marriage all right so so blondie had a point yeah um christine over to you final thoughts
02:44:47.900
so fucking funny well look final thoughts uh the topic of today's conversation was on promiscuity
02:44:54.300
look I think if you've come across a promiscuous woman unfortunately that is
02:45:00.720
an indication that it's probably not gonna be a successful marriage we know
02:45:04.620
this from marriage stats we know this from the happiness that women have in
02:45:09.000
long-term relationships after having a promiscuous past and so yeah that's my
02:45:13.960
final thoughts for today I'm gonna pass it over now guys final thoughts and of
02:45:17.680
course plug any socials that you want to plug I just want to say thank you for
02:45:22.800
having me on I just all I wish is just healing and love in a general aspect
02:45:28.860
that's what I want that's gonna be my final message yes thank you again it's
02:45:33.780
been it's been entertaining and yeah any socials you want to plug oh msverina on
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Instagram all right as well it was a great night and whatever I said I stand by
02:45:50.400
it if you didn't understand that you didn't understand that's not really my
02:45:54.640
problem so yeah my social are Ebi Lola a Dacu yeah thank you very much
02:46:03.240
ages reactions I'm not gonna lie there's been a hella cap on the panel we're gonna
02:46:07.440
lie I'll be honest man if we're if we're very good time no I have a time but if
02:46:13.020
we're being honest I don't think anyone everyone was very honest here no matter
02:46:15.660
what on it I feel like this half of the stage was definitely honest but I'm just
02:46:21.780
saying you know I'm saying do you know it is you see we have these
02:46:24.840
conversations don't come with like um all right you know what ages reactions
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on yeah everything you hear me cinema ha ha you already know it's a boy like
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Romeo the plug official me at 27 we're outside at the just purely things network
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02:46:44.580
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