Are "Dating The Same Guy" Groups Good or Bad? (Call-in Show) | Pearl Daily
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1 hour and 47 minutes
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178.17157
Hate Speech Sentences
141
Summary
The future is female. Men and women are drifting further apart and society is crumbling because of it. A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage and why it s bad for men to get married. Women are so willing to leave marriages because they are not happy.
Transcript
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Being asked the following question, do we need men?
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Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
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Most young men are single, most young women are not.
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Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
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It's a different world now, like we don't need men the way that they used to.
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Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
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A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
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You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
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This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
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You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
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It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
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Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
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It's Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.
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One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
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She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
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Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
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Seventy-four percent or something of divorces are initiated by women.
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Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
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Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
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I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
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Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
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When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for,
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and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
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I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
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You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
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We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
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Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
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Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
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A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
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Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
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We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
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You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
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I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
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If you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
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Women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
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And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.
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This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?
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Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
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I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
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I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong.
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How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
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The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
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The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
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Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
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Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man-
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Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
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If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
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So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
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I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
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I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
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She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
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Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife
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The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
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We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
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This is an existential crisis failing young men.
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You could bring your time and attention anywhere on this planet.
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And for some reason, you guys choose to bring it into this show, Pearl Daily.
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If you guys want, please donate to the Divorce Documentary.
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Or you can apply to our members only community where you can ask me questions directly on
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Yesterday, I did thumbnails and people learned a lot.
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You know, I talked about what makes a shitty thumbnail and why you guys are ruining your
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The tea app is used by women to share their stories about men, and the app allows them
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to share pictures and private data about men without their consent.
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Groups on sites like Facebook, Am I Dating the Same Guy, where women share photos of men
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and compare notes about who they've been dating and how their experience has been around since
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Men do not have access to these spaces, and anything can be said about these men.
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It's because they don't know how to take L's in dating, especially when they're older.
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Women hate, and I mean hate, when they get got.
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They hate when a man plays the game better than they do, and this is how they get revenge.
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Dating is a risk, and women want to minimize that risk of taking an L by destroying the reputation
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Men used to see a pretty woman and ask her out on a date.
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Then he would go to her house and ask her father if he could take her out on a date.
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A man used to court a woman, marry a woman, and then they would move on down the path of
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Women called that patriarchy, and feminism blew that whole thing up.
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Now, we have a deregulated sexual marketplace where women can do what they want.
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When left to their own choice, modern women are trying to date the top 20% of men.
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These men have so much choice that they don't want to commit to women, which is really understandable
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Sleep with multiple women and leave relationships when they see fit.
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How have women responded to having this much choice?
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They've responded with these groups and shaming men to prevent them from enjoying what they've
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earned, the ability to be able to do by becoming a man of means.
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Men have started fighting back, and now they are suing the women in these groups.
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So a guy in Tuscan, Arizona, are we dating the same guy as suing?
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Going out on a first date, how do you know for sure that the person you're seeing isn't
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Well, in Tucson, there are nearly 4,000 women in a Facebook group called Are We Dating the
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13 News reporter Shelby Slaughter has been looking into the story.
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Well, Dan, it is hard to get out there and meet people.
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And naturally, when you have a bad experience with someone, you want to tell your friends
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I'm sorry. There's a difference between friends and the American public.
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You know, you can crash out with your friends, but you're not supposed to crash out in public,
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It started as a way for women in Southern Arizona to make sure other women in the area aren't
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And six months ago, Nirvana Spivey set out to do just that, creating a Facebook group called
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Now, with nearly 4,000 women looking to find out if their boyfriends or even their husbands
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A lot of women, they go through this thing where they're like dating one guy and he's
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He's seen like six other girls and she has no idea.
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Spivey says the goal of the group isn't to bash men, but to keep the door for transparency
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But the problem is when you let anonymous people make up any story about a man,
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and the challenge is a lot of stuff gets through that's not true.
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So when they're out there in the dating world, they're like, ah, you're a player.
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They already have a hand and they already have a no.
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We've blurred the men's faces and names, asking for things like tea or dirt on a man before
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And so what you have is a bunch of women going into something in bad faith.
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So they meet a guy and they're already looking for things wrong with him.
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And the thing is, guys, if we had women being posted in these groups and they said, has anyone
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You haven't ever ghosted a guy where he maybe expected something.
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Like, he would probably blast us in these groups.
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And, you know, I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but the game is the game, right?
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I'm not always a good person and neither are most people.
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Sometimes that doesn't sit well with men who find out about the group.
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Attorney Alex Morey, an expert on free speech and defamation, tells me unless these women
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are making threats in the group, they aren't violating any laws.
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A lot of speech online, people go like, oh, I hate this conversation or they were being
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But if they do it, it's perfectly fine, legal, and it's just about safety.
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They were, you know, criticizing me really harshly.
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A lot of that is protected by the First Amendment, even if the guy that's being talked about doesn't
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like it, Maury tells me women in the group would have to be saying things that are provably
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Other things like giving general warnings is considered free speech.
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If women are making provably false claims about these particular men, they could open themselves
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And Nervy tells me this is already something she has in mind.
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And when posts come in warning other women about things like sexual assault and domestic
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violence, she makes sure the women provide things like police reports before it gets
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You can't stick out there that this man did this without backup proof to it because then
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And I spoke with a couple of the women in that group and they tell me having a space to
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go while putting feelers out there in the dating world has made them feel safer.
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Reporting live in studio, I'm Shelby Slaughter with their Tunes.
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And remember, they doxed a lot of the women in these groups and a lot of them are fat.
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So remember, ladies, when a woman says he's just playing games, she's probably just not
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And I think that looks play a big part and they're not everything, but they do get you
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So if you're wondering why a guy doesn't like you, look at your pictures together and ask
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Well, can a bad date land you a court date after you post about it online?
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Well, a group of local women say they are now forced to defend themselves in court after
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they took to social media to warn other women about a potential suitor.
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Tonight on your sites, Christine Lazar takes a look at the case and what it could mean for
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The First Amendment protects you from any laws meant to limit your free speech, but it doesn't
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prevent someone from taking you to court because they don't like what you said about them online.
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Now, a group of women say they're being bullied into silence by a guy who didn't like what they
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Anything is possible, really, when you meet strangers off the Internet.
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But most don't think comments about a bad date will lead to a defamation lawsuit filed by the
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But you are much better off knowing that this could happen to you in the dating game and
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Look, it's sometimes men sleep with you and don't call you back.
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And there's all these trad con guys that want to act like, oh, my wife, that would never
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Look, they don't want to get married because they're not accepting what's on the marketplace.
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If you're a mid, it's probably going to happen.
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So honestly, just by the things that were coming out of his mouth.
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Back in 2021, Olivia Berger had a single date with a guy she met online.
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She says she ended that date early and didn't think about him until years later when she saw
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this post in a private Facebook group called Are We Dating the Same Guy?
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The post had photos of her former date and read T in comments, asking if others had met
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I want to emphasize I had never had a date like this ever.
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Years before Olivia met him, Vanessa Valdez matched with him on a dating app.
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She also commented on the post that I said, how is this guy still allowed to be on dating
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This is like the alpha got women get angry when they can't either lock down alpha or don't
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Or when a beta acts like an alpha, not sure which this is.
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He took issue with her having a male friend in one of her profile photos and in a message
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called her a moron and wrote, it's fun watching you burn.
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Hearing someone say it's fun watching you burn, a stranger from the internet, it was very unsettling.
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Vanessa responded that he should stay away from women and get help before reporting him
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And that's the info she says she relayed on that Facebook post.
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But in my post, I redacted his phone number and just tell the truth and share my experience.
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But her version of the truth will now be put to the test.
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The guy she and Olivia and 10 other women claim to have dated and later dissed in the
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Are We Dating the Same Guy Facebook group are now being sued for defamation, sex-based...
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We used to have freedom of speech in this country, but women ruined it with all these
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And none of this would happen if women didn't ask for this.
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So, yeah, women, it's women's fault, in all honesty.
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And now women are eating the consequences of what they fought for, which is you don't have
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And if you ruin a man's reputation for fun, like women do for men, you are going to face
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Invasion of privacy by a man named Stuart Lucas Murray.
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I think my initial reaction is, this can't go anywhere.
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This is, there's nothing I said that wasn't true.
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I felt like I was being intimidated into silence.
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And that could be a problem, according to defamation attorney Jeff Lewis.
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In First Amendment world, we call that a chilling effect, meaning when people fear they're going
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to be sued, they either stop talking or they change what they're going to say because they're
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Men have to change their speech to not offend women all the time.
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But when women have to do it, it's World War III.
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Anyone can sue another person for what they say about them online, but that doesn't mean
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You know, I wonder if men made a site called, are we effing the same girl?
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The best way to avoid being sued for saying things on the internet is to say things that
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And if you step outside of truth or opinion, there's a good chance you might get sued if
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In this case, the women say that's what they did.
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In his lawsuit, he claims one of the women falsely said he was involved in the murder of
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At STDs, both and Vanessa say they never posted that or saw any other women make comments of
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In a statement to us, Murray says he has never met, much less dated, some of the women posting
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He went on to accuse the women of catfishing him, saying they posted highly filtered and
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enhanced photos on their dating profiles, concluding, perhaps these women are not successful at
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Lewis believes this case will make it to court.
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Because a judge at this early stage can't believe one side or the other, that's a jury question.
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So this case will likely go to trial if it doesn't settle.
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And without representation and not a lot of expendable income to fight a lawsuit, the women
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At the end of the day, these kinds of suits don't just affect me and Vanessa and our co-defendants.
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And I feel that a lot of times women are still being silenced.
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In January, a similar lawsuit was filed in Chicago by a man who was also the subject of
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a post in the Facebook group, Are We Dating the Same Guy?
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I did reach out to the moderator of that group, but she has not responded.
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That moderator, by the way, has created a fundraiser to help the women in Chicago being sued.
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But these women here in L.A. says she has not offered to help them.
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Well, isn't it the consequences of our own actions?
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The women we spoke with feel they did nothing wrong.
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And their opinions are protected against defamation.
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I feel not just for myself, but for my co-defendants and for the other women that he's gone after.
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Olivia Berger and Vanessa Valdez are just two of multiple women being sued for defamation, libel, sex-based discrimination, and other allegations by Stuart Lucas Murray.
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He's basically suing us for $2.6 million in damages.
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It all started with this post on the Facebook group, Are We Dating the Same Guy?
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When Olivia and Vanessa saw the post and all the comments, they added their own experiences.
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He seemed, in my opinion, pretty smug and very arrogant.
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The entire date, he was putting me down for various things, my job included.
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Vanessa never went on a date with Murray because she says she didn't like the messages he sent her, at one point even calling her a moron.
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Everything I said was just my experience with him and my opinions on how I think, you know, he should not be on dating sites.
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We contacted Murray for comment, but he declined an on-camera interview.
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Instead, he directed us to this website with a long statement that says, in part...
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Yeah, so this is a Chad running through these hoes, and now their hoes are...
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If you like us too much, we're going to crash out.
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And the men are like, fine, we'll run through you.
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And the accusations against the defendants are serious.
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I rejected each of them and cut them off quite swiftly.
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Instead of going their separate ways, they went on for months and...
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And so they, of course, hold on to any attention they've gotten and reminisce on it for the rest of their life.
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And if they can, they'll brag about it and then ruin the man's life.
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Here's to spread misinformation about me and countless others.
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Their actions were deliberate and they are now playing the victims, unquote.
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And it seems to me that that pattern is most often directed towards women.
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The importance of speaking up and telling the truth and not being silenced.
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I have seen so many women win in my life that I actually think nothing is too big of a red flag for you to win.
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But the challenge is we make it so difficult for ourselves.
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It's a he said, she said playing out on social media.
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Because the beautiful women have so many more choices.
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Where the mids, this is the most exciting thing that's happened.
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If you guys, like, flirt too low, they get too excited.
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And now you're the most exciting thing that's happened to them in their life.
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Where the beautiful women are used to being hit on, so they don't care.
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There are thousands of people vetting their next date in a group called Are We Dating the Same Guy?
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The idea is to provide a safe space to share dating experiences.
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News 5 anchor Tessa DeTiro sits down with a Northeast Ohio man who feels the sharing in these groups has gone too far.
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This is how a typical conversation begins on the Facebook group Are We Dating the Same Guy?
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This is a screenshot of a post from the Cleveland-Akron Canton page.
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This picture shows a dating profile set up by Matthew Napier.
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The anonymous poster asks, anyone waiting for the tea to spill?
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Matthew Napier sat down with me to share his experience being reviewed more than once.
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Imagine if a man did this to a woman and all the men were like saying how evil a woman was or how bad or how she was bad in bed or she doesn't want anything serious.
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I wouldn't want a Google review of the guys that have gone on dates with me.
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Several of these groups where he was called pushy, creepy, and even weird.
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She made it sound like I was a danger to people with the terminology that she was using.
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Do not take screenshots or share any information outside of the group.
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Don't share personal info, phone numbers, family members, or employment information.
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Stating, the group is about protecting women, not judging men.
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Napier contends in his case, those rules weren't followed.
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They looked at my LinkedIn and they saw my previous employer and they looked it up, who the head of HR was.
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Like, oh my gosh, if I could go into detail of the way vengeful women have tried to get back at me.
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I actually almost reacted to all my hit pieces today.
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Not for, just for money, because these usually do pretty well.
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Her phone number and her email address and told everyone to call.
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Can you see the idea that this was created to weed out a bad dating experience?
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Yeah, I think that the original idea about, you know, creating a safe spot for-
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This is the last day of the month, so I do get paid next month off of this month's donation.
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You could put your hard-earned money anywhere and you choose to do it here.
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Well, for women to actually find men who are bad people or violent, things like that, absolutely.
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To follow the group rules, a local member chose to speak with me anonymously.
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She uses the community to make sure she's dating safely.
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Before I even go on any date, I literally go on that page just to gather just a little
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And at one point, when she was in a serious relationship, she looked up her fiancé.
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My answers were within that group based on, you know, the woman that came forward.
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Yeah, so a lot of times women go to the group, and you can kind of see the way women do this.
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It might not be a group like this, but it's their friend group, it's their family group.
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Women care a lot about being accepted into their group more often than they care about
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Meanwhile, we were engaged, so it was one of those things I was like, okay, this is exactly
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We've had thousands of phone calls and emails from men throughout the country, even globally,
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Trent gained clients after filing this lawsuit in late July against Meta, the parent company
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of Facebook, and the Are We Dating the Same Guy parent company known as Spill the Tea Incorporated.
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We would like to have their specific posts taken down.
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We want to have the group overall taken down because we don't think it has a positive purpose.
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That suit is working its way through the courts.
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Meanwhile, the group puts reputations in the court of public opinion.
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What the group is there for is to really just inform other women as well as protect other
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Bullying people, both men and women, and it just, it needs to stop.
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And the crazy thing is women feel entitled to not being bullied online, but men, they feel
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the right to bully men on the internet and over-exaggerated makeup stuff.
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Even the admins and the moderators of the group has allowed it.
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So Facebook has filed a motion to dismiss that case while a court ruling is still pending
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So we looked at it from the outside, but from a check today, it shows that just 40 posts
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today, I shouldn't say Jeff, that's a lot in one day on that page.
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So we are going to be asking you guys the question, should men take legal actions against
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What is your opinion on whether we are dating the same guy groups?
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Or is it a case of women not being able to take an L?
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So we're going to pin that in the description and please call in and let me know what you
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If you've ever been posted in one of these groups, please call in.
00:30:38.660
So I was, I've talked, so I got put in one of those groups because, you know me, I'm,
00:30:49.180
I don't think that you guys, if you're dating these women and you're just not feeling it,
00:30:53.220
you don't owe her any kind of logical explanation at all.
00:31:00.700
You see it in these, um, in these romance movies all the time.
00:31:09.860
No, that means they want to get banged out one time by you.
00:31:15.120
Well, actually, no, because you know how many guys I know that got the girl pregnant with
00:31:28.120
I don't care how much she says, daddy, poppy, take it off.
00:31:36.420
Get your closure, closure sex and get the fuck out.
00:31:40.580
That's, I mean, we talked about this before, Doug MPA.
00:31:44.840
They could, they could hit it one more time, stroke it right and pull out.
00:31:51.120
She's wrapping her legs around, you know what I mean?
00:31:56.340
It's the last time she's not letting you pull out.
00:32:05.680
You guys deserve some closure sex for the bullshit these women have put you through.
00:32:11.280
You've been posted in, you've been posted in that group.
00:32:18.420
So, so various as safety says the woman clapping, having sex with hot randoms online.
00:32:30.380
So I've had multiple conversations with multiple women in my life about they're trying to justify
00:32:36.340
why a woman's, why women should be able to feel safe at the cost of men's privacy.
00:32:48.160
And, and then they're acting like women won't just assume something about you because you're
00:32:56.520
Well, if he was a good guy, he wouldn't be in this group in the first place.
00:33:02.680
I mean, some, some women are crash out and they can't take an L so they post him anyway.
00:33:13.720
And women will put a guy they don't even know his name on the birth certificate and
00:33:20.000
You don't think that they wouldn't put some guy, they wouldn't even know his face in a
00:33:24.140
Facebook group and say, I went on a date with this guy.
00:33:28.960
And if there was, if there was a directory of women, it would be far worse than the
00:33:41.100
If there was a directory of women where you could look up women, it would include false
00:33:53.320
Talking to fucking multiple men at the same time.
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And men don't do that because they think, do you know what?
00:34:01.880
Why actually you tell me, Doug MPA, why would you not do that?
00:34:09.320
First off, guys learn how to take L's early in life because life makes them have to.
00:34:15.560
Number two, we're taught from young that if you do anything, but take the L, uh, on the
00:34:23.700
chin and keep it moving, you're shamed and ridiculed and seen as dangerous.
00:34:27.960
You, how many videos have we seen online by now where a man will be staying there watching
00:34:34.100
some girl, uh, uh, spray paint his car or burn up his property and stuff.
00:34:46.200
If you, if you take an L, you just have to take it and keep on moving.
00:34:50.580
And then that's exacerbated by the fact that women don't really start taking L's until
00:34:57.060
That's why all these broads that were exposed in that T app where the average age is what
00:35:03.020
It's when life starts giving, it's so crazy how we don't take L's until even almost our,
00:35:08.120
if it's 33 to 37, it's almost our mid thirties that we don't take an L.
00:35:14.300
And then all of a sudden, because I always say this guys, women always say, Oh, men will
00:35:22.880
And then give birth and all this pain or whatever, blah, blah, blah.
00:35:26.520
I always say, well, women will never know what it's like to face the amount of rejection
00:35:33.220
Women wouldn't be able to take 10% of the rejection that the average guy faces.
00:35:42.060
So I'm going to, I want you to reject me and I'll love to learn to take it.
00:35:54.700
I'll be, first off, I'd say, wait, are you like a mid or are you, are you attractive?
00:36:11.200
So, so if she's the type of girl that's on the T app, I would just say, do I know you?
00:36:18.640
But like, would you mind helping me like find something really quick?
00:36:21.520
And then I'd be like, um, I'm actually only in here for a couple of things and then, and
00:36:30.020
But I just had a quick, it was like a super quick question.
00:36:46.480
Remember, hey guys, I have a AJ's rant and reactions and I, we're actually brothers.
00:36:53.640
So I have my, so if a woman comes up and starts talking, I say, oh yeah, wait, do I know you?
00:37:14.800
You're doing, do you have a camera set up or no?
00:37:41.380
Oh, then I'd be like, well, I'm just going to work out, but I hope you have a good workout
00:37:48.960
And then I put my earphones back in and I would keep doing what I'm doing.
00:37:53.080
You got to keep it short and sweet and to the point.
00:38:03.500
Have you had women approach you the last few years?
00:38:12.320
Well, so yes, because I always advocate guys, when you hit 35, the whole world opens up.
00:38:25.480
Are you talking about like approach and hit on?
00:38:29.140
I've just, I've heard a couple of guys say they've gotten approached in real life more
00:38:34.540
Because I'm just curious if you've experienced that or no.
00:38:49.920
Because a woman hitting on you would literally be like you said, Hey, what's it on your face?
00:38:58.180
But women will come up and try to find something to talk about.
00:39:08.120
So guys, you think that men stumble talking to women?
00:39:16.580
Women will try to, they'll ask you what your favorite sports team is when you know for a
00:39:26.280
You know, they'll try to, or they'll talk about some kind of exercise in the gym that
00:39:34.520
Like, oh yeah, you're doing a flat bench and they don't look like they do flat bench at
00:39:42.160
So there's a difference between a woman initiating contact and a woman hitting on you.
00:39:47.980
And it's funny because a lot of guys, they don't know.
00:39:54.540
Guys, put in the chat if you would be okay with a woman walking up to you and just hitting
00:39:59.340
on you and saying, Hey, I think you're attractive.
00:40:06.680
I saw this video of this girl going up to an influencer and she was like, Are you single?
00:40:31.740
Yeah, but guys, we think that if a pretty girl is coming up to us in public, that we're
00:40:38.800
If she's like an eight and she's walking up to a somewhat average guy who knows he's
00:40:46.900
average, we're just like, there has to be a camera around or she's going to set me up
00:40:54.800
He was a Chad and he, he did have a camera, but it was because he was famous, but it was,
00:41:03.240
You got to respect, even if women get rejected, I have to respect the ones a little bit more.
00:41:09.900
I don't respect women, but like, you know, I would give them a little bit more like this
00:41:15.880
You know, at least you shot your shot, you know?
00:41:19.340
Well, especially in, in this current dating market, once again, men are being told not
00:41:24.880
Women are, are too weak to approach or are too scared of rejections.
00:41:30.820
So now there's a big staring contest out in public.
00:41:35.680
Um, is anyone on the line to talk about RB dating the same guy?
00:41:39.980
So before I bring the people up, like the video guys, we really appreciate you being
00:41:51.380
It's good to see all the regulars in the YouTube chat.
00:41:53.940
And I just wanted to say thank you to Joseph Jellick, oddly man.
00:42:48.500
Um, do you, have you ever been in one of those groups?
00:43:03.320
I was actually posted on one of these pages recently.
00:43:07.260
Actually, it's happened three times, but the most recent one really pissed me off.
00:43:21.860
And, and I made a post about it because it just really pissed me off.
00:43:28.100
And then what I don't get is, is that to me, it's just a slander group.
00:43:33.440
I, I, I don't see it as any other thing that I'd like.
00:43:38.860
And I know some of the guys on there sometimes, and you can tell that they're lying, um, because
00:43:43.860
you know, these people, um, and I really just think they need to get rid of it.
00:43:49.720
And I think if they can sue, they really should.
00:43:53.360
I mean, uh, but you should see the post I made though.
00:43:58.880
Can you tell me, can you tell me like, what was the story they put on?
00:44:05.460
I mean, I could, I could show you the post, I guess.
00:44:08.560
Well, you can just give me, you don't have to show it word for word, but give me a summary
00:44:11.560
of what they said happened versus what actually happened.
00:44:17.600
And then all of a sudden a friend of mine tells me that I'm on this webpage, a girlfriend,
00:44:22.960
you know, not a girlfriend, but a friend who's a girl.
00:44:25.420
So then a couple other girlfriends that I know start telling me about it.
00:44:31.080
So now I'm like, I'm like, Oh my God, this is crazy.
00:44:34.580
And I do have kind of a color, colorful past, but I'm really not a violent, I'm not a violent
00:44:40.920
But I did have like drug issues like throughout my life, but I don't anymore.
00:44:44.720
Um, anyways, I, anytime that I'm dating someone, I will tell them who I am.
00:44:50.920
Like, Oh, it's like, I don't do people really hide who they are that much when they get into
00:44:57.100
Cause in my experience that that hasn't been the case on either end with me or her.
00:45:02.740
Um, so yeah, I think it's just entirely fucked up.
00:45:07.460
And that mentioned, I was talking to one of my friends and I said, look, um, the sad part
00:45:17.480
about it is I know a lot of guys, you know, a lot of red pill channels like, Oh yeah, you
00:45:22.260
know, don't spend more than $20 on a date and only take it a coffee.
00:45:25.360
Um, but guys, a lot of us still take women on traditional dates, especially a lot of us
00:45:34.620
And so you plan this date, no, you met this woman, you plan this date, you paid for this
00:45:41.600
date to invite this woman into your life, to do this to you understand what I'm saying?
00:45:51.020
It's almost like you're paying her to trash you in a way.
00:45:56.360
There is no future with a girl who's done that.
00:45:58.660
And I don't understand why they don't see that either.
00:46:02.280
Well, usually it's a woman that took, was the girl that said that about you, someone who
00:46:05.900
took an L like that you wouldn't have seen anyway.
00:46:09.060
I feel like it's just their crash out on the way out.
00:46:16.320
So there was a girl on the, and she kept talking to me and then she saw, you know, whatever they
00:46:20.240
And she's like, well, I still kind of want to see them and go out.
00:46:22.980
I asked all the girls, I go, did you post me on this?
00:46:29.560
And I kept talking to her, um, but I held my ground with it.
00:46:33.300
Cause it's just, I was, I was not going to go on a date with her.
00:46:35.700
What was her counterargument would be as the women I talked to her, like, well, you have
00:46:39.660
to understand that women need a safe place and it's not about you.
00:46:44.460
It's just like, are you trying to convince me that it's okay that my privacy was compromised?
00:46:55.020
In fact, I think probably a bunch of women messaged me after.
00:47:00.200
So I'm kind of thinking that it does the opposite.
00:47:03.360
Um, and really, so you got posted and they like found you on Instagram or where'd they
00:47:10.360
So either like, you know, friend, people I'm friends with, um, people that knew me mostly,
00:47:17.700
you know, but a lot of girls messaged me that, you know, I could probably, and if I'm such
00:47:21.920
a like horrible, horrible person, they don't know me like, it's like from my hometown, like
00:47:27.740
Like we all grew up to it together, even if we're in a friend group, you know?
00:47:32.740
Um, but, um, I don't, I don't, I, again, I just, I'm off track with my thinking.
00:47:40.620
I like lost sleep over it and I just, just kind of done with it.
00:47:46.140
And again, like I said, it was the third time it's happened and I don't understand why a
00:47:49.740
girl would think that she can post your photo on one of these groups and that you would
00:47:53.920
ever like, isn't the goal like long-term or marriage or like a stable relationship, but
00:47:58.800
like you, you've started it off with that, that there is, I don't just, I don't see a
00:48:04.800
Um, so I don't understand why they don't see that part of it.
00:48:08.340
And like, personally, I wouldn't want like a guy reviewing, like what kind of pressure
00:48:13.280
does that put you under if someone's reviewing every date that you go on?
00:48:17.340
Like, come on, ladies, you've never been an asshole on a date.
00:48:20.460
I have like, come on, like ever in your whole life.
00:48:25.100
You've never done anything a little weird, a little awkward, like, come on.
00:48:33.780
The majority of women still want to approach a man, date a man, court a man, and propose
00:48:37.840
to a man, but they have all sorts of opinions as to how men do it.
00:48:43.840
That's why women shouldn't be able to do this kind of thing because unless you're going to
00:48:48.780
step up to the plate and approach a man and plan a date, well then stop talking about how
00:48:55.840
So, so once again, now we have the great staring contest now.
00:49:00.840
I'm just afraid that at some point that, you know, it's going to get me in trouble.
00:49:05.740
I had a marriage that when it was horrible, I was, I was like, I was behaving really good.
00:49:11.840
I had a business, me and my father were working and I meet this girl, I get her pregnant.
00:49:25.060
Then later on, I found out she's cheating on me the whole time, all this stuff.
00:49:30.480
And then like I leave her and then I found out she's prostituting on the, this is well
00:49:38.340
You know, ultimately I left her, we had a kid together.
00:49:43.660
And you know, through that, I ended up with my own drug and depression issues and I got
00:49:49.940
So I'm not, you know, clean and I admit that, but like, I still don't think that you should
00:49:57.940
If you want to search me, like say on a, you know, like a background check or ask people
00:50:04.920
about me and all that, I think that's totally fine, you know, but it's a public forum.
00:50:11.100
And if you wanted, if you cared about your safety, why are women going over to men's
00:50:18.720
Like for like hookups and whatever, like there's women that go straight to men's houses off
00:50:25.660
If you're really that concerned about safety, why are we going out at night?
00:50:29.480
Like, come on, women don't give a shit about safety.
00:50:51.620
Next up says zoom user, zoom user, zoom user, you're on mute.
00:51:06.440
We're going to give you a couple more seconds because you're probably listening to the YouTube.
00:51:11.440
It says zoom user, zoom user going once, zoom user going twice, zoom user, I'm putting you
00:51:28.260
And we have Peter, are you there, Peter, Peter, I'm not going to say your last name, Peter,
00:51:50.020
Peter going once, Peter going twice, see you back in the waiting room.
00:52:13.680
Well, I called in, uh, I think last week or two weeks ago, I was on the STD call and show.
00:52:32.420
And then I gave it to 10 girls around six girls.
00:52:40.420
Did that get you in the, I'm going to read a super chat, but then think about the question.
00:52:44.160
Did that get you in the group or was it something else?
00:52:46.840
Support from a woman who identifies falling into the category.
00:52:57.720
And I, I guess I mean it, but pretty much all 99%, you know, but I guess there might be one.
00:53:08.900
Did that get you in the group or did something else?
00:53:11.900
Well, so actually that did not get me in the group actually, but I was posted in the group.
00:53:24.800
Someone posted like a picture of me is like, any red flags before I go on a date with them.
00:53:31.900
It wasn't even like, she'd never even hung out with me.
00:53:38.900
Cause I, I would text a lot of girls, a lot of the same texts and apparently they didn't
00:53:46.900
So they were every girl in the city was posting a screenshot of our conversations of me sending
00:53:51.900
them the same videos and pictures and all that.
00:53:55.900
Like, did you look good in the pictures at least?
00:54:00.900
It was just like, uh, like sometimes like I'll send a picture of like my motorcycle and then
00:54:05.900
I'll just send it to like a hundred girls or whatever.
00:54:10.900
He texted me at the same time, the same picture, all this shit.
00:54:13.900
And then they were all just, they were just loving it.
00:54:19.900
Like they were just gassing me up in the comments, but they were like, yeah, he just seems like
00:54:25.900
Like that's why never I stopped responding to him.
00:54:29.900
Did you just want to hook up or were you open to something serious?
00:54:41.900
Well, the thing is I had no idea who they even were.
00:54:46.900
Like I have a big list of phone numbers, which I just spam through whenever like I want something.
00:54:52.900
But the fact is like most of the comments from in the comments though, was girls that
00:54:59.900
So the actual girls that I did like have relationships with or like I slept with none of them got posted.
00:55:06.900
No one said anything bad about me on a date, which I'm glad for.
00:55:10.900
But I did have one person asked me these like, um, she made up a lie in the comments.
00:55:16.900
She was like, um, let me see if I can remember.
00:55:19.900
She was like, yeah, my friend met him at the bar and he was dancing with her.
00:55:24.900
But then he turned around to talk to another girl while dancing with my friend, which wasn't true.
00:55:29.900
I was helping this girl that was on the floor that fell down.
00:55:32.900
But then she got mad at me saying I was trying to hit on another girl.
00:55:35.900
So she didn't say that, but most of the girls really didn't care about that.
00:55:40.900
But that was the worst thing that got posted on there.
00:55:44.900
So again, PA, you got any other questions for him?
00:55:51.900
You're just going to see less and less guys dating.
00:55:54.900
Because like I said on the last call, you're, you're trying to date these girls and they're going in in bad faith.
00:56:03.900
I have, I completely agree as a guy with like a, like a high body count, whatever, which a lot of guys in here listen to like certain guys, like fresh and faded and stuff like that.
00:56:12.900
I do admit that after a while it does get boring and there's limited returns.
00:56:18.900
Like there's not really any good returns from this lifestyle.
00:56:22.900
Um, all you're really going to end up getting at the end of the day is you're going to end up either with a kid or you're going to end up getting STDs.
00:56:30.900
Or you're going to end up getting with the charge.
00:56:35.900
So it's important to not, not have a lifestyle like this where you're constantly everywhere you go.
00:56:40.900
Like everywhere I go now, ever since that post, like I go to the bars, like girls recognize me.
00:56:52.900
The bar would be like, Oh, I seen you on the Facebook group and some shit like that.
00:56:57.900
I know a guy that was posted in there and like, um, some of the women at his work walked up that he was friends walked up and said, why are you in this group?
00:57:08.900
And then he's on the back foot and he, and he, it's like, if you don't say anything, they're going to assume the worst.
00:57:14.900
And then, so you quote unquote, have to explain yourself.
00:57:17.900
Cause someone turned to told a version of a story that they never should have heard in the first place.
00:57:25.900
I've been lucky, but I had my wife, my one friend, he's more attractive than me.
00:57:29.900
He was like a definition of a Chad and he, he got posted as well.
00:57:33.900
And he got like a false allegation on him, but, um, some girl that ended up sleeping with him ended up posting in the comments.
00:57:46.900
And it was just, and, and I, I rejected him and he got upset.
00:57:51.900
Even though she ended up sleeping at his house the whole night and all this.
00:57:58.900
So there is guys that do get false falsely accused on there.
00:58:02.900
Um, and there's not really any way you could even defend yourself since the group is private.
00:58:07.900
And if any girl like wants to like, uh, defend you, they'll just ban them as well.
00:58:24.900
I think I'm pretty average looking, but I think it's important that like, I don't think looks
00:58:30.900
I know Pearl always says that, but I think there's, there's a lot of ugly guys.
00:58:34.900
Like, Hey, you know, you're totally correct for men.
00:58:40.900
The look, there's a lot of guys that care too much about looks, but girls end up like,
00:58:45.900
even in these groups, they'll pull some ugly ass guys in there and they're still getting
00:58:49.900
So even as an ugly guy, you can still have a reputation as well.
00:59:18.900
So tell me, have you been, do they have, are we dating the same guy?
00:59:29.900
Can you, do you, I don't even know what language they speak there.
00:59:35.900
I don't know that this might sound really dumb.
00:59:45.900
So can you even read if they, if they post about you, can, can you even read what they're
00:59:58.900
So tell me, have you ever been posted in there?
01:00:10.900
It was an amazing experience, you know, exactly.
01:00:16.900
If they put that in there, but no, no, they have one.
01:00:22.900
So sometimes, you know, if you live in like Pattaya, then they have one for Bangkok.
01:00:26.900
So the girls just share information about guys that they need to make sure that they're
01:00:33.900
They're not invested in the same investment vehicle.
01:00:43.900
Yeah, but it was just something like, oh, Hey, this guy, is anybody dating this guy?
01:00:49.900
Um, but it's kind of weird too, for me, because I tell girls, like, I'm not exclusive to you.
01:00:54.900
So at the end of the day, if you put me, well, not put me in the chat, but if you just know
01:00:59.900
anything about dating me is I'm never closed on my end, whether I want to do it or not,
01:01:04.900
it's up to me, but I'm never just gave an ultimatum to be closed on my end.
01:01:09.900
And so they don't do it so much, but sometimes they still do it because they want what they
01:01:24.900
So at the end of the day, I don't need to sell them that.
01:01:28.900
But at the end of the day, I know what you mean.
01:01:29.900
Do I give them experiences that is like a dream?
01:01:32.900
Then you could say yes, but I don't sell them a dream.
01:01:35.900
I tell them who I am and what I want, but they create their own dreams.
01:01:42.900
We have like a little hamster wheel in us at all times.
01:01:45.900
So do you think that men, do you think they should create their own version of this?
01:01:50.900
Like, are we the same girl app and you can just look her up and then see what her history
01:02:03.900
So the guys who's suing, the guys who are saying, hey, I'm going to do this.
01:02:09.900
I'm not going to be one of those guys hating in the background.
01:02:11.900
Oh no, men should just shut up and be quiet and take the L.
01:02:15.900
So net net at the end of the day, you know, fight fire with fire.
01:02:24.900
This whole men taking the high road thing and men just take, press charges, press charges,
01:02:31.900
equal rights is equal lefts, all that stuff, guys.
01:02:41.900
I see nothing wrong with providing equality out.
01:02:44.900
So at the end of the day, yeah, if they put you on there and they do that and you feel
01:02:47.900
like as though, and you think you should do X, Y, and Z, go get it done.
01:02:53.900
Run down on you and say, Hey man, real men don't do that.
01:02:59.900
Real, real men don't negotiate with terrorists.
01:03:54.900
To be honest, you have to ask, you have to ask the local ladies.
01:04:01.900
I'm not, I'm not at liberty to divulge that kind of information because it doesn't appear online at the moment from what I know.
01:04:21.900
Do you think that they're a legit thing for women to do?
01:04:24.900
Do you think it's wrong for women to post guys on there?
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But the biggest problem is there's a difference between being safe and feeling safe.
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A lot of women don't feel safe in some of the safest cities in the world.
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It's like, I mean, I guess he can rape you, but like, not for that long.
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In most, in most Western cities, especially the United States, women can walk around half
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So like this whole, in fact, they're putting a stat showing that men have less reason to
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feel safe at night because we're more likely to be victim of a violent crime, which happens
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So like, you know, I don't, there's feeling safe and then actually being safe.
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And it's funny because a lot of these women who, who don't feel safe and like, you know,
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major cities in the U S try go into other areas of the world and tell me how safe you
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I, yeah, I mean, I guess maybe that's like also a psychological problem.
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I mean, I don't know why they would kind of like, you know, if, if they're like all in
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their heads and they confront trust their, like their girlfriends, then maybe like as a,
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like a, a cheap kind of like solution is to post in a group.
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Men, when we're young, you probably still remember the first time that you got your heart
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The first time you were told that you weren't tall enough, that you weren't athletic enough,
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And so women have, have accepted that men have to take the L's and women don't.
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And if women have to take an L, everyone has to pay for it.
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But, but, but, but, but do we always accept defeat?
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I remember more men would be like pushy, even if like you said, no, nowadays they're like,
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But even when we were young, you're taught that if you just don't take it, if you don't
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just take the L and keep it moving, you could be a creep.
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You're, you're toxically masculine and all this stuff.
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He, he's supposed to keep going after I say, I mean, no, doesn't really yet.
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Do you have any other thoughts on the Facebook group?
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Well, I'm on Facebook, but like, I don't really see the point in being on Facebook.
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Do you mind talking to them while I fill my water?
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Peter, if I count to three and you're not on there, I'm going to kick you out of the call.
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So have probably realized in about 10 seconds that I tried to call him into the call.
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So what do you think about this whole, cause we've been talking about the T app.
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I think you called it on that one, but the Facebook groups, are we dating the same guy?
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So first off, do you think that these guys should legally sue these women?
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And then what do you think about the, are we dating the same guy groups?
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Cause in my, in my experience and from what I've seen, cause I know girls that are like in New York City that are on that page, given that there's just so many guys that are, I mean, there's a higher girl to guy ratio.
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So usually the girls are actually dating the same guy.
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I mean, so over there, things are very slanted in men's favor.
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So that's why I would say there's a lot more active users on those specific cities in particular, whether it's New York City, Albany, like basically everywhere across New York for the most part, like major cities.
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But I would say like in general, if you're getting posted on there, it's to your benefit because a girl who's not that into you, maybe she goes on a date with you or two.
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She's only posting you on there if she's highly emotionally invested.
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And at that point, no matter what feedback she hears, whether it's positive about you or it's negative about you, in my opinion, it's still going to play in your favor.
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Because from what I've observed is that because I've been posted on there and, you know, girls who will come to me saying, oh, you know, I heard such and such about you.
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But they'll be like, oh, I heard it from a friend.
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But I know someone who's on the forum who like, oh, that was posted about you.
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And I'll just be like, oh, no, you know, that girl was just jealous that, you know, I didn't stick around, you know, with her.
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But, you know, she's just sad that, you know, you're going to end up with me.
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But, like, you know, you just play it that way.
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Did you did you feel like it was earned or did you feel like it was unwarranted?
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I would say I mean, as far as what she was aware of, I would say it is unwarranted.
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I think the girls who are generally posting guys on there are already active members of that group because they've been cheated on in the past.
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So they're just bitter and jaded to some extent.
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But, you know, at the same time, like I would say it's unwarranted.
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I didn't do anything in that interaction that would have led her to believe that.
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But no, I mean, my observation is it tends to play to guys favors who do get posted on there, because whether you get positive feedback or negative feedback.
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And if no one's posting anything, like if no one's responding anything about you, you know, that's probably, you know, neutral at best.
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But I would say in general, it does play to the guy's favor because you're already like you already own the real estate inside her brain, if that makes sense, because she's probably thinking about you all the time.
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But yeah, I mean, I would say they should honestly rename that group to Am I in a situation ship?
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I found that some people haven't even met the guy yet.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know why they had that expectation.
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I saw the girl once and she put me on there because I ghosted her.
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And I'm like, I don't owe you anything when you didn't even like you guys weren't even hooking up, right?
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I'm like, like, oh, so it's like, are we dating?
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There is no tea because I just didn't want to talk to you anymore.
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Women have been telling men for the past 60 years, we don't owe you our time, our resources, our bodies, anything.
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The tea app is women assuming that men owe them transparency.
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And they're trying to make up for the fact that, like, men aren't giving that to them.
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Men have had to accept this dynamic, but women are doing everything to stop equality from happening.
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Once again, 50, 60 years, we don't owe you anything.
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We should make a commercial that's like how to take the L.
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No, I was going to say, like, so a friend of mine in New York City, she actually posted,
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and this was like about a month ago, a guy who she was basically dating.
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And, you know, basically the comments that came back was, oh, he's a nice guy.
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And, you know, oh, you know, just we things did not match up and things like that.
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And I'm talking to her because, like, I'm trying to get to know, you know, what is this guy like?
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And somehow this guy's getting posted on there.
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So, you know, like, it doesn't make sense to me, like, why girls are posting usually low quality guys that are on there other than, like, you know.
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Yeah, it's just emotions and drama that are quite frankly on there.
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And then, you know, they'll stay in these situationships forever and then wonder why the guys, you know, are not committing.
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In my opinion, I think if they're posting the guy on there, they've already lost, if that makes sense.
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Like, I don't think anyone who's ever posted a guy on these forums has ever actually ended up in a real relationship with those guys, let alone married.
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So, I mean, yeah, I mean, so my take on is, I think it is an invasion of privacy.
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I will say that because I don't know how often they actually take those pictures down.
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And obviously, I don't think men want their, you know, pictures on the internet forever, you know, undisclosed.
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And on the T app, they let you put the guy's phone number, where he lives, where he works.
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They're literally posting all of your private information, your phone number, your address.
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What I never understood is, like, you know, you would think they'd be just trying to figure out, is that guy married or something like that?
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Or, like, is he in a relationship? But that's usually not it. It's like, it's almost like it's become more normalized.
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And I think it's because, like, you know, whenever when I started using online dating, I noticed just about every girl I went on a date with was searching me on LinkedIn.
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And I could tell because it could kind of say, you know, who your searches are coming from and you can see what companies that they're at.
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And it's pretty much the person who I recently went on a date with.
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And I think it's just become more normalized in women's mind that any information that they can find about you is now fair game.
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So whether it's, you know, social media stalking you or, you know, using these forums that they believe only women have access to that now it's become more and more legitimized.
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But to me, it doesn't make any sense as far as, quote unquote, safety, because if safety is concerned, like, why are there so many girls who will meet strangers who they've never met before as opposed to guys who they know in real life?
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Like that used to not be a thing 20 years ago, like, you know, we just like the drama.
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The idea of a girl being on match.com or a guy being on match.com was considered very weird.
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And now I think the idea of searching up strangers is now more legitimized.
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So women, women will get baby rabies because one woman gets pregnant and they're so jealous of the, of the status that the, of what the attention that the woman is getting from being pregnant, that they'll go out and get pregnant.
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So you think that women aren't just posting stuff about men to, to participate in the conversation and get the same amount of likes and attention in these groups.
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Women will make a stupid mistake, like getting pregnant by some loser, just to be able to participate in a friend's group with a bunch of other women pregnant.
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I mean, you know, I've gone on dates with girls and I'll take them back to my place.
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And in my neighborhood, there's pretty much a lot of, uh, new couples that have like kids and stuff like that.
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Like, so they're like, you know, they had their first kid or second kid there.
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Cause there's like a good middle elementary school around.
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And so anytime I take a girl for a walk in that neighborhood, you know, after a date, they start like thinking, Oh, you know, I could get married to this guy.
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Like, uh, you know, when they start seeing their friends have kids, they start thinking, Oh no, I got to have kids.
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And I got to find a guy and who's going to give me commitment.
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So I think that's why they go on this sort of T app.
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But to be honest, any girl who's 35, who's basically on those forums, I think they're pretty much all screwed.
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All those bitter women, like they pretty much are the same girls that are on, uh, you know, the ask women over 30, 10 years later, you know, and they're the same ones that are going to be on that T app and whatnot.
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Thanks for, um, doing that while I got my water.
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I usually try to fill it before the show, but yeah, you look like you were kind of hurting a little bit.
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So we're going to bring up Joe and then I'm going to try Dan again.
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I just had a couple of thoughts I wanted to share.
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I haven't actually been on one of these apps myself, but, um, I have had false accusations.
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Uh, and, uh, you know, my wife is, uh, trying to take the kids away and everything.
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So, um, what I was thinking and I, I saw, I've been watching a lot of content related to this T app thing.
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Um, and I saw there was a man version of it, uh, apparently called T born.
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Uh, but it was, uh, within a couple of days, it was banned from all of the app stores from Apple and Google and everybody.
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Um, but what I was thinking was, um, I don't know if you could do Facebook, um, groups or whatever, but, um, I was thinking that men should do a version of it, but actually follow the rules where you just post a picture, maybe a first name, not reveal everybody's like full, uh, full name and address and everything.
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And then if you have like court documents or something, basically just say, are you currently dating them?
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Cause that's supposedly what the whole thing was about in the first place.
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Just, are you dating this person at the same time that I'm dating them?
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And then, um, and then you could have multiple people line up and they could show overlap.
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Um, but then if you had like court documents or something, um, like my ex has an assault was a aggravated assault with a deadly weapon from like 2007 or whatever.
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Um, so I could maybe submit them and then a moderator could basically authenticate them and then just put, you know, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon 2007.
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And, uh, without revealing the entire document, like to the entire world or whatever.
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I was thinking guys should do it, but they should do it right.
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And, you know, not just docs everybody and make up a bunch of dumb stories, like only facts, please.
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And basically show them like, yes, this is, this can be a good idea, but you can do it right.
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I don't think that you see, you're kind of saying that men should take the higher ground and you just, you just the right way.
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I mean, cause I mean, I mean, cause anybody can make up stories about anybody.
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So it's like, well, no, cause I think, I think the idea does actually have value.
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Like, you know, um, I, you know, if I'm dating somebody, I want to know if other guys are seeing her, if she's seeing other people behind my back or whatever.
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I mean, you just assume she is because it's, if, if the, if, if the woman's even slightly attractive, it's easy for her to sleep with other people.
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If you assume she is though, well then what do you want to know for if you assume she is?
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It's still, it would still be nice to know for sure.
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Like, like, for example, um, would you tell her or would you just go say, what would be your plan?
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I here, here's, here's like a very specific example.
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So like, um, in my, my marriage lasted 13 years and, uh, ended in December.
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So, um, and, and after, after the fact I've looked into it and, and I missed a bunch of, uh, apparently very obvious red flags.
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But, um, starting about seven years ago, when we moved into the town that we had moved into, um, my wife started saying that she wanted to go out.
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I've never really been into karaoke or whatever.
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So like about twice a month, sometimes three times a month, she would go out on the weekends or on Wednesdays or whatever the day was that they had karaoke or whatever.
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And, you know, I felt like, you know, she needed a night out.
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She was always like, I hate being cooped up with the kids and less than that or whatever.
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So now that she left me in December, I'm like, um, everybody was telling me when she left, they're like, there's no way she would leave unless she had another guy.
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Or somebody to stay with, or somebody else is taking care of.
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Well, I'm just saying like, I, I would, um, I would have been, if I had been able to know earlier, then I think I would have been better prepared.
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Cause she, she very specifically basically tried to blindside me.
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She basically just left with the kids and didn't say a single word to me.
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And then about 30 days later, I get hit with this court notice or whatever, saying that she wants a restraining order.
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And I'm a danger to, she's afraid of me and everybody, you know, I'm apparently the worst person on the planet earth.
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Um, but the last time I talked to you, I did say we had a hearing on July 22nd.
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Um, and we had that hearing and, uh, a big surprise to me.
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The, the custody of the evaluator is making recommendations on what should be done with the kids.
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And then the custody evaluator got CPS involved and had the kids taken away from her.
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But when they, when they took the kids away from her, that means they don't have to pay her child support anymore.
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Um, the office of the attorney general will garnish your paycheck automatically.
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If you, if you have a pending divorce, uh, that involves child support.
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Like I thought they could only garnish your paycheck.
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Like if, uh, you were behind on payments or if you messed something up or no, they start taking money out of your paycheck immediately.
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And if the judge thinks that you have investments that could be liquidated, they, they're basically taking 65% of my paycheck since January.
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And then on top of that, they were trying to charge me $800 a month for child visitation.
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So basically, basically a hundred percent of my paycheck has been going down the tubes since January.
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And, um, but that's all stopped, uh, at the hearing at July 22nd.
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So that's all good news now, now they're going to do another round of, you know, basically fitness evaluations or whatever, where everybody has to basically prove, you know, that they're not insane.
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But, um, but also good news on, on the, on the other side of the good news was, um, my mom had actually taken care of my, uh, nieces and nephews when my sister was getting divorced a couple of years ago.
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And so, um, she wants to take care of the kids.
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And so all she has to do is get, you know, the home study done from, uh, from CPS.
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And the other good news is I don't have to pay for visitation anymore.
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So I get free visitation and my paycheck's not getting garnished anyway, but I know that's all, that's all side information, but man, I didn't know any of this.
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I didn't know any of this until I was right in the middle of it.
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You know, you, you have a lot of guys, they get their, they go down to Kinko's and, and make their copies and print out everything.
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It's insane what they, what they can get away with.
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And basically that's the other thing I was thinking about related to this T app is women can say anything they want.
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And it's like everybody automatically, automatically believes them.
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Like the wife can make any kinds of accusations that she wants against the husband saying he's scary or he's dangerous or he's emotionally distant.
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But, um, you know what you're emotionally distant to a woman that's trying to destroy you.
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Like she would, she would, uh, she would try to start these fights and she'd be yelling at me and then she'd say, well, you're just shutting down.
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You're just emotionally shutting down or whatever.
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Like we've, you know, this is, this is just dumb.
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Um, but anyway, I can hear the good news and we're going to move on to the next caller.
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I think that there was a woman in the call queue earlier.
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Um, I was actually posted in there, uh, three times.
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Um, the first time I was ever posted, I, I kind of actually deserved it.
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Cause at the time it was, uh, this was, uh, December of 2023 and, uh, my, I was with
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the, my girlfriend at the time and I was on a dating app.
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So yeah, I got, I got busted, uh, cheating and someone, someone was asking about me, seeing
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if they were, you know, dating this guy and whatnot.
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Um, someone from my work who I was friends with on Facebook, uh, obviously, you know, like
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noticed that I was posting on there and then I'm, I'm guessing it was her who messaged my
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C pro you see what I said about people at your job and stuff.
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There, there are people at your job and your personal life that will go on there.
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I mean, I guess his was blatant, but you know, being put in there opens up to people
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and opens you up to people in your life, seeing you in there.
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And, um, but it's kind of funny because that my, my ex girlfriend, uh, nine months later
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after that relationship ended, she messaged me out of the blue and cheated on, on her
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Um, not nine months later saying she messaged me how much she missed me and saying that she
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And so that was kind of funny that she broke up with me for cheating.
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And then she ends up going and she owned her boyfriend, but yeah, anyway, um, four months.
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So four months later, after that happened, um, there was this other girl who posted me
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I hooked up with her a couple of times and then we were going to meet up a third time.
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And then she posted in, in there saying, Oh, I was a, you know, I was an asshole or whatever.
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And, um, she ended up reporting me on a bumble and hinge for ghosting.
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And then I got kicked off of there for ghosting, you know?
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And, um, and then later the third time that I was posted, um, was, I believe it was November
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And, uh, this girl and I had hooked up or whatever, a couple of times.
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And, um, she was just asking, you know, she's like, Oh, I heard this guy was posted in here
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I just wanted to make sure that he wasn't dating anyone, you know?
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And then I had someone else from my work who I didn't know.
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So of course it was like these nurses, you know, and, um, she, um, she, she was saying
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that she made up this crazy rumor saying that I was sleeping around in the hospital, which
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She was saying I was sleeping with like 80% of the nurses in the hospital that I've only,
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I only slept with one nurse at the hospital at the hospital.
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But, and she's, she was like saying I was spreading STDs.
01:34:06.900
Um, some, some other girl who I, who I did go on a date with was mad saying that, Oh,
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like he, I'm a dickhead for like ending the date in like 45 minutes.
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Um, uh, what is the girl who posted me the second time saying that I ghosted her came
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Another girl said that I was, uh, I was an ass because I ghosted her, uh, because she
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sent me a picture of her body and then I didn't like it.
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Or did you know, I, I just, she sent me a little heart.
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And, um, she, she sent me a picture of a body and I like, she just sent it.
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So I might be a little bit of an ass for that, but I don't know.
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Uh, but yeah, I, the, the, the thing, the whole thing about the, the STDs and whatnot,
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uh, saying that I was spreading and I never had an STD in my life.
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So, and, and then I, and I, I know I've seen that girl who I worked with before, but I never really knew her.
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And then I, so I had no idea why she mentioned to me like that.
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And then my, my best friend's ex-girlfriend was saying that it was like commenting, like on my sex life, like saying that, um, like, Oh, you know, he's, he's had girls come in and out, but I hadn't heard nothing about him recently.
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I was like, why, why, why would you even say that?
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And the whole thing, um, made me mad enough, uh, to the point where I had made this, uh, are we dating the same guy exposed group on Facebook?
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And, um, I had it, it was running for about, I don't know, three months, something like that.
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Uh, and, and it started like the followers on it started picking up so fast.
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Like I had about 5,000 followers before we finally got, we finally got banned.
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Cause women just kept reporting to group, kept reporting to group.
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And, and what we were doing is me and my girlfriend, uh, my current girlfriend, um, were screenshotting, uh, are we dating the same guy post?
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Cause she was in there, you know, and then we were just posting everything that they were posting.
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And like, yeah, we would like, you know, when, when we see, we, we would.
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You know, um, when they would talk shit about, you know, a guy on there, we would do the same.
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Like we would bully that girl back and, you know, uh, whatever, talk smack about her.
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And then that's what, that's why our group got banned.
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But I was like, well, we're doing the same thing that they were doing.
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And these girls are so mad about that exposed group.
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They were just like, oh, you don't care about women's safety.
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If a man does rape you on a date, it's pretty easy to go press charges.
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Like you'll probably win, even if you're lying.
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I just think that, you know, modern women always talk about their intuition and their discernment,
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You can't say that you're, you know, you have all this intuition and women know before
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guys know and women mature faster and stuff, but then have this victim narrative.
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Would they have to be protected from these horrible men?
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And then like, yeah, my ex-girlfriend being a hypocrite, breaking up with me and then cheating
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My girlfriend's about to be here in a couple of minutes and let me talk.
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No, it's just women don't know how to take L's.
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And, um, like it's for what they say with the T app, the average age women on the IDs were
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Cause that's when women have to start taking L's.
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Ladies take the L and all you're doing is ruining dating.
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Men didn't approach before, but they knew they're really not going to approach now.
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Men used to actually put the real names on their online dating profiles, or they used
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Unfortunately, that's probably how you're going to meet your husband and just know you're
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Um, that'll probably pass you unless you're beautiful.
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If you're beautiful, you might get around that.
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Um, and when that happens, I would just take that L.
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Cause this is just an example of what do I always say is the worst thing about modern
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But the biggest problem is they, they talk too much.
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And I say that in a sense of like social media and just saying their business.
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Women of the past would keep things to their graves.
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I mean, they kind of do like, they like looking at us, having sex with us, maybe having someone
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there sometimes, but in general, they don't really like our opinions.
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So, you know, men lie to us all the time and tell us that we like those things.
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We want you around, but we don't want you around.
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But women, you know, the difference is I said this the other day, men have the courtesy
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He'll look you in your eye, your eye and say no.
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Well, women can't look them in their eye and say, I've never been with anybody but you.
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And we think there's some virtue in being honest and there's really none.
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We want to say, we think there's a virtue and say, you're like the fourth best I've ever
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Just like he calls you the most beautiful woman in the world.
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It's like, obviously you're mid because most women are, I'm sure maybe a beautiful woman's
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Um, so you're probably mid and your husband has to lie to you, but you don't want him to
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say, you know, Diane, you're like a 5.4 out of 10.
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But women, we, we feel like we could say, you know, I dated this rapper.
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And, and look, I'm not saying to completely lie, but if you can, you should.
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Did you see that one video where this guy is walking up the couples on some boardwalk
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Oh, I think I know where she was like, I was getting older.
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She's like, well, he kept hitting on me for like seven years and I was getting older.
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And they have two kids and he's looking at it like easy bro.
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And everyone, everyone was like, may this type of love never find me.
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Look, let's, let's be honest here for a second.
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Ladies, most people don't marry the best sex of their life.
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Most people are not going to marry the best sex they ever had.
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Most people don't end up with their first choice.
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They wanted someone 22 and they're like, fuck it.
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I wanted Chad, but I'll take Gavin, the starving musician.
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I wanted Chad, but I'll take Brad or I'll take Eugene.
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And we gotta, we gotta learn to just pretend and lie better.
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The best, the lies, the lies that you should learn as a man, as a, and a woman.
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So the lies you should learn as a woman are like, you're the best I ever had.
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Could you, could you ask me my body count really quick?
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A lot of guys, cause one of the problems with these groups is women won't even tell the truth.
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Women will tell the truth through their feelings, which is their truth.
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I said already, like I said, uh, these women, they're just making dating harder.
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Cause now less and less men are going to want to date and women are not stepping up to the plate.
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They're not going to be able to break the stereotype that women that hit on, that hit on men are hyper masculine and have all these problems.
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Well, my, um, my final thought is we should start to lie better.
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They're saying they're, they're guessing my body count in the chat.
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Um, but anyways, um, yeah, we gotta learn to lie better.
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