Aunty Jenny And Zuby’s Thoughts On LGBTQ
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the controversial topic of gender identity and what it means to be transgendered in modern society. We discuss the implications of the transgenders movement and how it affects our understanding of the world around us.
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As far as I'm concerned, the people, I mean, it's not affected you yet,
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but the way things are going, wait until they start taking away your rights as a woman
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and saying there are rights because we're women.
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Or if you have a daughter and she has to then compete and she's sporty
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And the thing is, is that I remember growing up years ago
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and I didn't know there was a, I think she was a lady and her daughter.
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As far as I'm concerned, that was just, I think it was her dad and she was a woman before.
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But whatever she had transgendered into, whether it's a daughter or a man,
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but it wasn't like, oh yes, you know, I'm now a man and I need these rights
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No, it was just, she just got on with her life.
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She didn't try and ram her sexuality or her gender down people's throats.
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As far as I'm concerned, if that's what you want to go and do, go and do it.
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And don't try and influence children, society and everybody else with it.
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But he's not going to try and ram it down my throat or anything like that.
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You're allowed to believe whatever you want to believe.
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You're not allowed to force other people to believe and accept that.
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This is our understanding of religious beliefs, political beliefs, social beliefs, cultural beliefs.
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But if I were to come and now try to force all the things that I believe on someone else.
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I can believe that this table is circular and yellow.
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I don't have a right to try to force everyone else in this room and everyone else in the world to believe and accept and say that this table is circular and yellow when they can see it's rectangular and black.
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I can walk around on all fours and eat out of a dog bowl if I want.
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Someone might be super polite and, you know, pet me and treat me like a dog or a goat or whatever, you know.
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If someone is like, no, that's a man walking around pretending to be a goat.
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And that could hurt my feelings if I genuinely believe I'm a goat.
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But if this ever happens, by the way, please, like, get me some help.
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But the problem with this issue and why it's become such a contentious issue is because it's gone far beyond people just living their lives and doing what they want to do.
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It's got into an ideological movement where they are now trying to force people to believe and comply with it.
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Someone said that, why are they not answering that question?
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If you are not allowed to say something that is factually correct and true because you're worried about losing your job, you're not in a good place in society.
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And if you follow the news, the Irish teacher, I think he's Catholic, and he refused to refer to one of his students as they and actually lost his job.
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And then because he was so up in arms about it, understandably, he went back to his job, his place of work, the school he's worked in for the past however many years and tried to reenter the school.
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In Canada, it's illegal to so-called misgender somebody.
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But they didn't care about his religion over that, do they?
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They didn't put, you know, the fact that he's Catholic and he has strong beliefs.
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That actually came underneath someone wanting to be called they.
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But is that not, you're not considering that other person's feelings?
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You're saying that they shouldn't impose their beliefs on you, but refusing to call someone that what they identify as, you don't remember, he's a Catholic.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I identify as jacked, handsome, and wonderful and successful.
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You will hurt my feelings if you don't refer to me as jacked, handsome, intelligent, charming.
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And so I don't have, you have a right to freedom of speech.
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There's no right to not have your feelings hurt.
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There's no right to control other people's language.
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So, yes, people should be polite and kind and civil within reason.
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But actually, if you are now trying to control someone else's language and force them to call you something, especially something that you are not, you don't have a right to do that at all.
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If I turn around, I said to you, from today, I'm going to be a virgin.
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Don't worry about the three grandchildren and my 36-year-old son.
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And I'm not going to, and anybody else who says to me that I'm not a virgin, I'm going to sue them.
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I'm going to go to the newspapers and I'm going to make, I'm going to be up in arms because I am now identifying as a virgin.
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And I said to you, you have to see me as a virgin.
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I think we keep creating examples that are not very relative to this conversation.
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Obviously, being a virgin, that is a very objective thing.
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Someone identifying as a man or woman, we've not been able to identify, we've not been able to explain what a man and a woman is.
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Well, you guys have because you have one way of thinking and you've decided that's what you want.
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Honestly, when did you start believing what you're saying now?
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Honestly, when, when, like when specifically did you start believing this?
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I would say, I, to be fair, I've always grown up with that belief of let people be whatever they want to believe.
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Like being black in the UK, especially, I know how hard it is when the majority think that you are in the wrong.
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And maybe that is that compassion that I have for them because we are the majority.
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We have the privilege because we were born as our gender.
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So we have the privilege to say, no, that's how you feel.
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But my point is that we are the privileged to be able to say that that is our identity.
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And I feel like being a minority and knowing what it feels like for somebody to be like, no, you're less than or no, that's the way it should be.
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No, I have a problem with that because, well, no, if I was on the other foot and I was born as a, as a man and I want to identify as a woman, I would be pissed off if somebody told me that I can't be what I want to be.
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I'm not saying, I'm saying you are not object, you are objectively not that thing.
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If you, if you were sitting here telling me that you are white, right?
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You can say that you are, you can feel like it.
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You can do what you like, but you are not, you're not white.
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That's the thing, you know, identify this identifying thing.
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It opens up an entire Pandora's box of anything.
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Cause, cause you can, you can identify as, as anything.
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And as I said, I support someone's right to live their life as they want to.
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I'm not going to treat, I know more transgender, just cause I know so many people period.
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Um, and I will treat any human being with respect and dignity and civility.
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What I will not do is distort the truth and lie to make someone feel happy.
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You can, you can, you can, you can respect people and be kind and be honest and also protect
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Because how do you, we humans are so complex, but I agree with you, but it's not the truth.
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No, no, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not hypocritical.
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The reason I ask why you, I I'm assuming you only started believing what you're saying quite
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I personally, I've never read, I don't know when I started believing it.
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I think I've always just grown up with, like I said, be whatever.
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I guess the conversation is coming up a lot more.
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And I decided I'm not going to tell someone how they feel.
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I'm not going to do that because what, who am I to tell you that you're not a woman?
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Wait, the same person you are to say that this table is not circular in yellow.
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We humans can't be objective in every, in everything that we do.
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Can I just say, right, you was bringing up about being black and how you're used to
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people, you know, you're raised being black and being down children.
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I mean, some, some, some men are, you know, five foot four and they'd much rather be six
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He could genuinely feel, he could be very confident.
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I I'm six foot four, but you are objectively not six foot four.
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Judged by like the way you look, we can actually like measure you.
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But you can, we can take a cell from any part of a woman's body and look at it under a microscope
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and you can see X, X chromosome, that's a woman.
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But that gender woman, that gender person don't look like a woman.
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Are you, are you questioning, are you questioning that it's not chromosome?
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I'm not saying that it's, I just think that's a factor of, as a woman.
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You could grow up being more masculine than anyone.
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But that doesn't make you, doesn't make you a man.
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Just because you have your X, Y chromosome, I don't want to be, I don't want to be broke,
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Just because you didn't have the X, Y chromosome, just like, just because you can't reproduce,
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Why would it be important to that person for me to believe and so-called affirm
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If you actually change the way you talk about it-
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Okay, and I insist on it, and I get triggered, I get mad.
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I'm trying to get everyone to say I am six foot five, right?
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Am I being the reasonable one by trying to force everyone to accommodate that?
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Are they being unreasonable by saying, no, you're not six foot five?
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You can tell very easily if someone is male or female with 100% accuracy.
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If I walked in here and said, I identify as, you're 26, right?
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That, like, you can't measure, but I could just go around and tell everyone-
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And by the way, that's much more believable than you saying you're a man.
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By the same, by the same, by the same argument-
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Yeah, but your birth certificate will say whether you're male or female.
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So I could identify and say, look, you know, I feel more that I'm your age.
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My brain could be living in the past of I'm 26.
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It's registered on my birth certificate, just the same as being a female is.
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And by the way, there is such a thing as, you know, biological age in terms of your health and other factors.
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So you can be 40 years old, but sort of have a biological age of 32, say, if you're in very good shape and so on.
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