JustPearlyThings - April 23, 2023


Aunty Jenny Destroys Feminism With This Phrase


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8 minutes

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1,526

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124

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Misogyny

49

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In this episode, we discuss whether or not feminism has done more harm than good in the modern world. We also talk about the role of women in society and the impact feminism has had on the way we live and work.

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00:00:00.000 So today's topic is, has feminism done more harm than good? 0.51
00:00:04.880 So I'd like to hear from everybody.
00:00:06.860 Would you consider yourself a feminist, yes or no? 1.00
00:00:09.480 Okay, so I think that feminism is very important, 1.00
00:00:14.400 but I feel like the way it has manifested in the West in particular
00:00:18.640 is now causing a net negative.
00:00:21.160 And I feel like that's why conversations right now
00:00:23.300 are going to be really important to kind of hold back that sort of chaos.
00:00:26.180 So I'd say that I'm a feminist in the aspect of women's rights. 0.78
00:00:35.740 However, I'm not a feminist.
00:00:40.880 Women who go too far with feminism. 1.00
00:00:43.460 I think with a lot of women, they've been given an inch 1.00
00:00:47.180 and now they want to take the mile.
00:00:48.920 So that's my perception on it.
00:00:53.740 I would say I'm a feminist. 1.00
00:00:56.180 And that's because if not for feminism, I wouldn't be here right now 1.00
00:01:00.420 because I'm here because my mum's able to work as a nurse,
00:01:04.980 bring us from Nigeria and create a life for us.
00:01:09.000 So I'm grateful to feminism for my life, basically. 0.73
00:01:14.360 I wouldn't say I'm like, in terms of the new age feminism,
00:01:17.840 I do think certain women go a bit too far. 1.00
00:01:21.100 Like, in terms of promiscuity,
00:01:23.980 I don't feel like they should use feminism to justify promiscuity.
00:01:29.420 But I think a lot of women now, 1.00
00:01:30.800 they're using feminism as a way of justifying bad behaviour. 1.00
00:01:36.440 But feminism as a whole, I can't even say it. 0.99
00:01:40.120 Feminism as a whole, I think is very important 0.98
00:01:43.020 and it's helped a lot of women come out of abusive situations 1.00
00:01:46.580 and just empower women generally. 1.00
00:01:50.740 Yeah, I'd call myself a feminist. 1.00
00:01:52.140 I think feminism has done overwhelmingly, like, net good. 1.00
00:01:55.560 There might be a couple of crazy people today
00:01:56.860 on, like, Twitter and social media,
00:01:58.440 but I don't think we should let that taint the entire movement.
00:02:00.700 I think it's important to keep moving in a positive direction forward
00:02:02.760 while calling out the crazy people
00:02:04.300 that kind of try to hold things back.
00:02:06.500 Okay, and you?
00:02:07.900 I'm an old school feminist. 1.00
00:02:09.940 Women that know their place. 1.00
00:02:12.340 Got their rights.
00:02:13.740 I know their place.
00:02:15.680 I don't want to be a man.
00:02:17.500 I don't want to be equal to a man. 1.00
00:02:20.060 And feminism in the old school days 1.00
00:02:22.400 was nothing like the feminist now. 1.00
00:02:25.980 So if I was going to say that I'm a feminist, 1.00
00:02:28.080 I would say,
00:02:29.360 I'm an old school feminist 1.00
00:02:30.820 and that these young people
00:02:32.980 who now claim they're feminists, 1.00
00:02:36.060 they're not feminists. 1.00
00:02:37.020 They want to be men.
00:02:38.180 Yeah, I agree.
00:02:39.520 What's changed from then to now?
00:02:42.200 What's changed is that,
00:02:43.540 like the lady said,
00:02:44.780 she said a mile,
00:02:45.780 but I'm speaking that as a dressmaker.
00:02:47.580 They gave us an inch
00:02:48.520 and everyone would take a yard.
00:02:51.300 And it's not helping us.
00:02:53.800 It's not helping us.
00:02:55.360 And we've gone from being able to work,
00:02:57.080 being able to vote,
00:02:58.000 to I'm the same as a man.
00:02:59.240 I'm not the same as a man. 0.91
00:03:00.480 I can't do the same as a man.
00:03:02.580 I need men. 0.81
00:03:03.080 I need men. 0.81
00:03:04.360 I need men. 0.81
00:03:05.920 I will say that is make his day.
00:03:09.020 I need my man just as much as he needs me,
00:03:12.380 if not more.
00:03:13.460 But that's what's changed,
00:03:15.480 is that nowadays,
00:03:17.700 the feminists think that they need, 1.00
00:03:20.820 that they don't need men.
00:03:21.780 But if they didn't need men,
00:03:25.340 where would we be?
00:03:27.360 So I'm a feminist that, 1.00
00:03:29.500 in the old school days,
00:03:31.000 I like what I've been given.
00:03:32.440 I've been given an inch.
00:03:33.560 I'm happy with an inch.
00:03:34.600 I don't want the yard.
00:03:35.400 I can't handle the yard.
00:03:36.980 So me, I'm okay working,
00:03:39.300 taking care of my man,
00:03:41.340 and being feminine.
00:03:43.560 And I think the feminists have taken 1.00
00:03:46.000 feminism out of the word feminist. 1.00
00:03:49.780 Feminist.
00:03:50.900 It's to do with being an empowered woman, 1.00
00:03:54.700 not being an empowered masculine woman.
00:03:59.080 And I think that most of the feminists nowadays, 1.00
00:04:01.840 they're butch.
00:04:02.900 They're masculine. 0.91
00:04:04.180 Even if they look feminine, 0.98
00:04:05.580 and they think they're feminists, 1.00
00:04:07.880 they've got this underlying,
00:04:09.880 I'm the same as men or equal.
00:04:11.560 And you're not.
00:04:12.180 You know what, women? 1.00
00:04:13.320 Hold back.
00:04:14.100 Know your place.
00:04:15.120 Hold your corner.
00:04:16.460 That's my view.
00:04:17.200 Yeah, 100%.
00:04:18.320 Thank you.
00:04:20.420 All right, cool.
00:04:21.220 So the whole feminism thing, 1.00
00:04:22.720 I wouldn't call myself a feminist.
00:04:24.520 I would say that I believe in equal opportunities.
00:04:27.820 But if you really want equal opportunities,
00:04:30.400 it has to be full time,
00:04:32.120 not just when it suits you.
00:04:33.700 I think a lot of the ideology of feminism 1.00
00:04:37.880 is kind of just like catered to empowering women. 0.99
00:04:40.560 And at the end of the day,
00:04:43.140 a lot of times in reality,
00:04:46.200 women don't even want to be on the same equal playing field as men 1.00
00:04:49.740 because they don't want to take on certain responsibilities
00:04:51.960 that men take on.
00:04:53.640 So do I think people should be paid the same money
00:04:57.760 if they do the same job?
00:04:59.060 Of course.
00:04:59.960 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:05:00.720 And everybody should have the same equal rights as human beings.
00:05:03.940 But it has to be in all aspects of life,
00:05:06.720 not just when it suits you.
00:05:07.860 So no, I wouldn't say I'm a feminist,
00:05:09.600 but I do believe in equality between races.
00:05:14.700 Racism or sexist?
00:05:16.260 I think sexist.
00:05:17.440 Oh, I said racist.
00:05:19.020 Yeah, racist and sexist.
00:05:20.940 I've got a lot of things going on in my mind at the same time.
00:05:24.040 I can see you're getting feminism and racism mixed up. 0.97
00:05:26.720 Yeah, sexist, genders, everything.
00:05:29.840 I think we need to have the 2023 version of the dictionary,
00:05:35.160 what is feminism? 1.00
00:05:35.860 Because I think opinions and positions come into what we believe feminism to be 1.00
00:05:42.280 because, as you said, it's different from the old school to the new school.
00:05:45.280 I would say, am I a feminist? 1.00
00:05:49.460 Not by choice.
00:05:51.060 I'd say that I have to do what I have to do and I have to get by
00:05:55.920 and I can't necessarily stay in my lane
00:06:00.000 and I can't necessarily not take up a masculine role
00:06:02.800 because there is no man in my life to take up that masculine role.
00:06:06.540 So sometimes I have to step out of my femininity
00:06:09.420 and adopt some masculinity in order to get by.
00:06:13.240 So does that mean that I sabotage my femininity?
00:06:16.260 Does that mean that I'm not a feminist 0.78
00:06:17.600 because I have to do things outside of what technically is a feminist? 1.00
00:06:21.520 I ain't sure.
00:06:23.120 So I think I'm on the fence right now.
00:06:25.480 So I'm a bit confused.
00:06:27.200 You said you step into your masculinity
00:06:28.840 because you don't have a man in your life?
00:06:31.980 Because if we're going to go for old school,
00:06:34.020 look after a man and he does the manly roles
00:06:36.960 and he does the car and he takes out the bins
00:06:39.440 and he does all the masculine things
00:06:41.320 that the old school feminists might say. 1.00
00:06:44.200 If that person is...
00:06:45.260 Because old school, there was, you know, husband and wife.
00:06:48.160 There was not so many single women like myself
00:06:50.700 running households, running businesses,
00:06:53.700 paying for cars, getting under the bonnet, all of those things.
00:06:57.020 What I'm saying is sometimes
00:06:58.200 if I were to stick to old school feminine ways, 0.97
00:07:01.320 I wouldn't get by.
00:07:03.320 Okay, okay, I understand.
00:07:04.260 That's what I'm trying to say.
00:07:06.200 Auntie, did you have something to say?
00:07:07.700 I don't understand what she's coming from.
00:07:09.380 So, okay, so you were saying that old school,
00:07:11.680 but you look after a man and you know your place.
00:07:14.460 Yeah.
00:07:15.040 But in your place, what's the limits of that place?
00:07:18.180 There's no limits.
00:07:19.780 It's just that it makes a deciding factor.
00:07:21.340 A place is a position that you're holding.
00:07:23.220 Yeah.
00:07:23.500 You're holding that stance.
00:07:25.000 I'm a woman, that's my place.
00:07:26.580 Right.
00:07:27.380 So, okay, so what do you...
00:07:28.360 Okay, maybe I need to understand then.
00:07:29.840 What's a man's place? 0.98
00:07:31.240 A man's place is to look after me, 0.99
00:07:34.420 make sure he's got my best interests at heart
00:07:36.280 and he has to make the final decision,
00:07:38.900 which improves both of us.
00:07:40.940 Yes, his final decision will always be in my benefit.
00:07:44.600 So when he's not there to look after you,
00:07:46.620 who's looking after you?
00:07:47.880 I make sure.
00:07:49.500 I've got a man.
00:07:50.740 So any decision I make, even me,
00:07:52.360 for me being on the podcast,
00:07:53.760 I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him.
00:07:56.500 Because before I decided to come on the podcast,
00:07:59.780 I asked his permission.
00:08:01.920 People might think that's really strange.
00:08:03.060 I said, what is your permission?
00:08:05.160 What do you think about it?
00:08:06.620 This is what I'm going to do.
00:08:07.880 And there's certain things he didn't like.
00:08:10.400 So I told Pearl, you know what?
00:08:12.220 I can't do this.
00:08:13.260 I can't do that.
00:08:14.200 I can't do whatever.
00:08:15.440 And then we came to a conclusion.
00:08:17.560 But the final decision is always his.
00:08:19.920 And I trust him with it
00:08:21.100 because he'll always have my best interests at heart.
00:08:23.500 And I'm a trained mechanic.
00:08:24.540 Many of you know I was just banned on TikTok.
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