JustPearlyThings - March 15, 2023


Aunty Jenny goes on an Epic Rant


Episode Stats

Length

14 minutes

Words per Minute

205.09355

Word Count

2,985

Sentence Count

201

Misogynist Sentences

20

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

In this episode, we discuss whether or not women should fear men. We discuss the statistics on the number of deaths of women in the UK in the past year, and the impact of men's suicide. We also discuss the fact that women are more likely to be victims of domestic violence than men.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So today's topic is, should women fear men? And the reason I picked this topic is because
00:00:06.840 of something that happened on the show we had last night. I try to build on conversation. So
00:00:12.320 Blessing, will you show them the clip of the show last night?
00:00:15.820 So I don't think it's, as a woman, I know full well, it won't ingrained in me to hate men,
00:00:33.140 but as you grow up and you see them act a certain way, then you're going to have an opinion
00:00:36.660 of them. I wouldn't go swimming. I wouldn't go swimming in Australia. Even if there was
00:00:41.160 one shark attack, I wouldn't go near it because I know the consequences. But yeah, as women
00:00:44.580 were expected to, to still trust men that that hurt us. Okay, what do you mean? What
00:00:53.260 do you mean? Like what you said? What do you what do you see that men do? That's so bad.
00:00:57.820 Well, first of all, I said about the domestic violence. And then I think if you look at
00:01:02.220 like women, women do it too. No, men ain't dying at the same rates. So they can't use
00:01:08.260 to say, what do you mean? Who's to say, I think everything that we see is this is what's given
00:01:13.540 to us as facts. We can't take that as gospel. Do you know that men have died from domestic
00:01:18.220 violence? Male suicide is one of the biggest indicators of male suicide is
00:01:22.220 relationship conflict or breakup. So, you know, maybe it's not being logged as domestic
00:01:27.860 violence, but there is definitely abuse going the other way. And that's a significant
00:01:32.220 part of male suicide. And more women hit men one sided than men hit women one sided. I struggle.
00:01:37.660 I do struggle with this on this on the websites that I've seen that women are arrested more
00:01:43.340 for domestic violence than men, even though they suffer more. And in 2020, when 110 women died that
00:01:53.420 year because of that, the hands of male 50% of those deaths were overkill, which means they killed them.
00:01:59.020 They was, that was like brutally killing them long before that long after that. 110 in London?
00:02:04.700 No, in the UK. In the UK. That's really not a lot. One every three days. You don't think that's
00:02:09.100 110 for the whole year? So say from the whole year. Yeah, from the whole year. So from then to now,
00:02:14.700 so say at the, what percentage of deaths is that? That's got to be less than 1%. Do you honestly think
00:02:19.820 that a woman dying every three to four days is not a lot? I don't think it's like,
00:02:25.420 um, I don't think it's like a pressing, like if it's not one of the number, because it's not one
00:02:30.220 of the number one ways people are dying here. So like, like if, if we're going to talk about
00:02:35.100 if that, if that's the big issue, like then we should maybe put obesity.
00:02:40.620 Why is it always fat people when that alcohol is a drug and it's so normal?
00:02:45.900 Why is the default always fat? Why is the default always fat? It could be alcoholism.
00:02:51.260 Because, because, because that can, because the stuff that self and more people die,
00:02:55.580 what I think what I was trying to say is more people die each year from self-inflicted things
00:03:00.300 than something that's been inflicted on somebody else.
00:03:03.020 But that makes sense. Yeah, that's, that does make sense. But it doesn't excuse it.
00:03:06.700 Do you see what I mean? So say, so say when I wouldn't excuse it.
00:03:09.820 I don't believe anyone should. It's just putting it into context.
00:03:12.300 So if you take, if you take a number like 110 out of a country with like 60 million people
00:03:17.180 and try and make the case, because that's why. Well, because you're trying to generalize something
00:03:21.420 about men. But if you're going to, if you're going to make a generalization about men, I want to see,
00:03:26.460 is this prevalent among men? Is this really common? And when you said 110, I'm like, well,
00:03:31.020 okay, the UK is very populated. That doesn't sound like a lot of people. And when you put it into
00:03:35.260 context, but if you put into context, I don't think it's okay. I don't think. No, I'm not saying you do.
00:03:39.980 But then if you put it into context, the same amount of women have died this year, right? So it's one in
00:03:44.700 one every three to four days. So say from 2020, 2021, 2022, if you multiply 110, that's 330. Yeah,
00:03:52.780 that's close to a year. So out of three years, there was one year where a woman was dying every day.
00:04:00.060 That's mad. Will you put it like that? I don't, I don't think it's okay. But I just, if I had to guess,
00:04:07.340 if I had to guess, I would think that things like car crashes and obesity would probably be higher.
00:04:13.500 I don't know. But they're self-inflicted. So that's on them. I could walk down the street
00:04:17.500 and be murdered by a man. And what did I do to deserve that? Why does it have to be a man? You
00:04:23.820 could be murdered. But no, but I was talking about that statistic. When we're talking about domestic
00:04:27.340 violence, it's, it's men killing women. But my point, my point is, why would I make a generalization
00:04:32.140 about men when it's not a huge percentage of people that are dying at the hands of men, like from
00:04:38.060 domestic violence? Well, I think that's probably just the difference in the opinion, because I think one,
00:04:42.540 every three to four days is what to a week. I think that's wild. I mean, you can, you can manipulate
00:04:47.420 statistics to make them sound like it's a lot more prevalent than it is. But, but when you, when you
00:04:52.940 look at how many people, if I Googled right now, how many people are in the UK? It's like 60 million.
00:04:57.420 Yeah. 60 million people in the UK. But 110, that's not cool. But then when you put it down to one to
00:05:04.860 every three to four days, that doesn't, and like I said, about one, like a year, and that would have
00:05:10.060 been just women. But this is what I'm saying, get off this. But this is what I'm saying. This is why,
00:05:14.220 because there's a consequence for your actions. So as men, if you're going to enable other men and, and
00:05:19.660 whatnot, then it's a repercussion. How do men enable other men? We just saw in a clip where, when people were
00:05:26.300 attacked, when he was attacking a woman in public, people rushed to her defense. How was that
00:05:30.220 enabling? Well, the thing is, I understand that video, the video is terrible. But that's just one
00:05:35.260 incident. You could film that tomorrow. And, and there could be a different reaction. Because I
00:05:39.340 personally have seen three incidences of domestic violence with a woman being attacked. And I
00:05:44.060 haven't seen it. I was the one that went to see them. It was me. So I know full well that that happened.
00:05:49.660 So I'm not shocked by that video at all, because I don't know what people expect.
00:05:54.460 Do you, okay, do you feel like it's equal? Like people protect the genders equally?
00:05:58.620 I do. I do see what the problem with men, but in terms of how they're treated in society. But
00:06:06.540 a lot of it, I dare to say that the misandry is almost a bit of a pity party. Like if you ask someone
00:06:13.580 who's 50 plus about this, they ain't got a clue what you're talking about. But they've for the last 50
00:06:19.100 years seen women go through this, this, and this, and they're probably like, well, of course.
00:06:23.660 I want to go. Okay. Um, do you guys hear a buzzing? Yeah, there's a little buzzing in the
00:06:30.780 headphones. My mind. Yeah, I can hear slightly. Um, but what did you guys think of that clip?
00:06:36.620 So I want to start with Alex, because you were there. What were you thinking yesterday?
00:06:41.660 Um, I would say I was, I was just thinking, she's just very, very miss, uh, misinformed,
00:06:49.660 very ignorant. And you know, she has this, like, um, she's obviously been like highly influenced by
00:06:55.020 extremist groups. And so all her points were just kind of in that line of just like, I experienced,
00:07:00.300 I know someone who experienced this, therefore it's an issue of society. Um, I didn't like how she
00:07:06.220 dismissed men's issues. Cause I thought that was very kind of, uh, she kind of threw herself under the
00:07:11.420 bus there where if you claim you care about equality and women's rights and then say men's rights,
00:07:15.500 misandry is a pity party. It's kind of like extremely, extremely ignorant. So yeah.
00:07:24.940 Um, what did you think of the clip?
00:07:27.020 In my opinion, um, I feel like she's been for a lot of things because for her to talk like that,
00:07:32.780 she has experienced a lot of things when it comes to men. So that's why I can't judge what
00:07:37.100 she's saying. And I'm saying, cause I, I, I, from my experience, I've been around a lot of people
00:07:41.500 when they tell me their stories about, could be about a guy or female, but the way to go into it,
00:07:47.260 I deeply listened to it so hard. And I can just tell that they've been going through a lot. So for,
00:07:51.740 for her to talk like that, I can't judge cause she's, she's hurting and I can just hear in her voice,
00:07:56.620 she's hurting. That's why I ain't judging that.
00:07:58.460 She looked like she wanted to cry on you.
00:07:59.820 A hundred percent.
00:08:00.380 It felt bad when she was speaking.
00:08:02.460 Can I?
00:08:02.940 Yeah, go ahead.
00:08:03.420 I mean, I'm sure she was pretty hurt. Like you can actually tell that she's gone through
00:08:08.700 some sort of rough experience. However, I maybe like Alex think that she's those kind of people that
00:08:16.220 would manipulate the information for you to take the message the way she wants you to have it. Does
00:08:21.900 that make sense? And that is where you lose that, you know, understanding because the statistics went
00:08:29.020 from every other day for every three days and then one year and then three years, you know,
00:08:34.300 it's like taking the same issue and then molding it to favor your point of view. So that is not fair
00:08:40.540 because it has to be objective. Like, I don't know, that's how I feel about it. But it's clearly that
00:08:45.420 she's gone through some rough experiences.
00:08:48.300 Can I say something? I think obviously she just represents some of the biggest problems that we
00:08:53.740 have nowadays, which is where people are talking without having the capacity to be talking on the
00:08:58.620 topics they're talking about. That's why she misused statistics. That's why she didn't quite
00:09:04.220 make a coherent argument. However, the sentiment and the words that she's trying to say, I fully
00:09:09.420 sympathize. And I actually kind of agree with what she's saying. Yes, there's domestic violence towards
00:09:14.620 men. Yes, yes, yes, yes. But traditionally, culturally, socially, politically, economically,
00:09:21.100 everything, women tend to kind of be the ones that are on the losing side. And I say that not just
00:09:27.020 from my own experience. I say that from my own research into this. I say that from my own, like,
00:09:32.220 life experiences in other people. And the losing side of the topics that she's talking about. Of
00:09:37.100 course, think about it, even in Latin America, for example, in Africa, in Asia, there's a lot of
00:09:42.780 women that die in the hands of men. And that even though that's outside of Europe and the world that
00:09:46.940 we live in, that's just another example of how actually the world is somewhat like... Can we stick to the
00:09:51.580 West? Even in the West, even in the West is the same thing. They're like, if I'm gonna,
00:09:55.980 I'm not gonna lie, I bet you that if I walk, even let's say just London, if I walk around London,
00:10:00.620 and I ask a few girls, like, has a man ever slapped you? A lot of them will say yes.
00:10:04.780 How do you know that? Because I've already done it. How do you know they didn't deserve to be
00:10:09.180 slapped though? But that's not even... And that's, again, deserving to slap somebody or somebody
00:10:16.860 deserve to be slapped. That's subjective again. Most abuse is mutual, meaning both parties are
00:10:22.220 hitting each other. So a lot of girls will hit guys often first and then claim and cry abuse when
00:10:28.060 he hits back, but you hit him first. Yeah. Okay. And most, so they looked at abuse, abusive situations
00:10:35.420 and the ones that are one-sided, which means one party's hitting the other and the other is not
00:10:39.500 returning. Women are more likely to do that than men. Okay. I understand that completely. I've been in
00:10:45.740 that situation before. Of course I hit back because I'm not here to take slaps for no reason, right?
00:10:50.220 But it still remains like the fact that even for, and this goes to your question, should women fear men,
00:10:56.700 right? A man is way stronger than a woman. Do you get? So why are you even hitting in the first
00:11:01.740 place? You shouldn't. And yet they do are more race than women do. And some, yes, cry victim and some of
00:11:06.540 them can cause a situation, but let's not run away from the fact that there's a lot of women that are
00:11:10.700 actually victims to the toxic masculinity that is out there. Can I just say something? Toxic masculine.
00:11:16.140 Go ahead, auntie. Bullshit. Word. That's what I can say. As somebody that's been in an abusive relationship,
00:11:23.260 bullshit. What she's saying, bullshit. As far as I'm concerned, she's going from one side.
00:11:29.660 She's going from one side. If you go onto the internet and you look for women who have been
00:11:36.300 abused, you're going to get one set of figures. What about the men that have been abused? There's
00:11:41.260 men out there that have been abused, that are being abused. There was a, I think there was a program,
00:11:46.300 I think I mentioned it when Osara shows, there was a guy and he almost lost his life through
00:11:52.700 being with his partner. How many of these, how many men suffer in silence? A woman will go out
00:11:58.540 there and she will slap a man. Right. And if the man goes and calls the police, is the police going to
00:12:03.740 come and arrest him and take him? Is that going down as a statistic? And I'm not even defending
00:12:07.820 the man because as far as I'm concerned, no one deserves to get hit, but you've got to be fair about
00:12:11.340 it. A woman will turn around, slap a man. And I'm talking like I've seen it happen. I know
00:12:16.300 if it happened. A woman will turn around, slap a man, call the police. If the man slaps her back
00:12:21.580 and they will take the man. How many men out there are getting slapped by women and that will call
00:12:26.060 the police and say, this woman slapped me. How many men are going out? Women are too, so quick to
00:12:30.700 easy and turn around and say, oh, I've been abused. How is it for a man? If women, if that society
00:12:37.740 would accept that men get abused, they will speak up more and then you'll see the statistics change.
00:12:42.540 So as far as I'm concerned, all that talk about we should fear men and whatever, I've been battered
00:12:46.780 by a man. I do not fear men because that is a rare occasion. That is a rare occasion. That is rare.
00:12:54.300 I'm not going to go around and say, oh, because I got abused, all women out there are getting abused
00:12:59.100 because I know that men get abused out there and it's not publicized. And if there were statistics for
00:13:04.220 men, and I'm not defending anybody getting abused, but you've got to be fair about it.
00:13:08.700 And as far as I'm concerned, she don't even look like she's suffered. She look like she's been around
00:13:13.020 people, they're fed up this, go on the internet. Sometimes you need to turn off the internet and
00:13:17.980 use your brain. And all she's doing is getting her information from the internet and from,
00:13:23.100 she looks traumatized. Go and get counseling girl or something like that. She reminds me and just
00:13:27.820 going by the way she looks, I don't care where people hate me. She looks like a plain, bitter, feminist,
00:13:33.420 lesbian. Nothing about her says, nothing about her says, I'm sorry, I'm going to say nothing
00:13:38.780 about her says feminine. Nothing about her says, oh, this is what's going on. She just looks like
00:13:44.780 she's on one agenda and that's the way she was going. So I'm getting tired of hearing that. Oh,
00:13:49.180 this is what happens to women. I want to hear what happens to the men because the men out there are
00:13:53.420 suffering in silence. And it's because of society that men do not speak up. Men do not speak up
00:13:59.340 because they're so busy feeling fearful that they're going to get called a beta. Oh,
00:14:05.100 how can you let that woman slap you? Or how can you let that woman stab you up? There's men,
00:14:09.340 they're suffering, but because of society, they're not saying nothing. So if they're going to turn
00:14:13.020 around and say, oh, what she's saying is right. Oh, we should fear men. Bullshit.
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