Black DUDE Explains What ALL MEN WANT...
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Summary
In this episode, the lads discuss the importance of being honest with your intentions during dating, and why it's so difficult to be entirely honest when it comes to sex and relationships. They also discuss what it's like being in a monogamous relationship, and what it means to be honest about your intentions when dating.
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but david bond is watching guys i got a question for all three of you
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how do you think life would have win if you were honest with your intentions
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during dating all the time i i am terrible i am
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honest actually we had a conversation uh like we talked about um we talked about about you know
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main going kind of physical escapades i'm straight up with that and i've had girls accept that but
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but have you always been straight up you've been a liar before i'm not saying sometimes i'm saying
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100 from child i'm talking about before before you could even become the person you are now with
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the experience you have now i'm saying from birth you've always been honest about dating from the
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get gold yo no no but i don't think it's a realistic question because i don't think anybody but that's
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a good that's a good that's a good question but the reason why i'm saying it i'm saying you don't lie
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anymore yeah right that's right you can still have the same okay okay you can still have the same game
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that you've got you can still have the same type of you can still make a woman feel nice when you're
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speaking to them all you have to do is just be honest in every single day i'll answer that i'll
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i think that if i were to have been more honest about everything from the get-go i think i would
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be way more confident than i am now you think yeah because the thing is this right at one when i was
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dating those three main girls and i was juggling five yeah and i was directly honest with all them
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i would like go to bed and i'm like damn i'm a man like these
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bitches know the truth and they keep coming back for more but the thing is it is a short-lived
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victory because eventually because every girl nowadays right they just think so highly of
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themselves and they their ego can't handle the fact of truth and reality when that one girl's not good
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enough for you as a man you know i think that really messes with them i think it's very difficult
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to be entirely honest because as a guy i think maybe as a woman as well i think as a guy you know
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we are programmed to want variety right and to have that conversation with somebody that you're in love
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with and she's deeply in love with you is a very difficult conversation to have to sit down and say oh
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babe this is so perfect look at the sunset oh such a beautiful evening over london do you know what
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you know i kind of fancy other girls i don't know if if another if another shawley will pass now
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i probably probably won't so i think this is what i've said and from the get-go in the sense of
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okay that you are who i am truly investing in yeah who i'm taking seriously right and that
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this isn't saying that i am definitely going to go out there be like trying to have such different
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girls but it but it may happen where i do that now if that's not for you that's okay we don't
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have to get into this yeah but then leave it i say it's up to you i think yeah no that's that's
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a good way of doing it i think that sort of monogamous relationships though there's a sort
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of almost like a shared fantasy that both parties enter into of like that's true i don't look at
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anybody else and she's like i don't look at anybody else yeah and it's this kind of shared fantasy which
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everyone sort of intellectually knows is not true right but you have to sort of pretend in order to to
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maintain the status quo you know right right right for sure for sure i think i i don't know i i think
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i don't want to sit down with my girl i don't want to sit well
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how old is she going to be well well okay it's like for example so like
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you know my girl now right we went to see which one but now stop it
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do you remember that conversation we were having on the balcony
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we went to watch chris brown right we went to watch chris brown and like obviously chris brown
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pulls girls on stage all the time right and i'll be honest this sounds courageous far
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but i know she's amazing i was like look babe if he if he pulls you up that's chris brown like
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cool do your thing i get it whatever right and she was like babe i would never do that to you
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that's a good girl that's what that's a good girl like i wouldn't want to do that anyway even
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though he's like my favorite artist that's a good girl you see little things like that that's a solid
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even if let's say notice but let's say her body count was 25 or something mad let's say
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it's not even close but i'm saying let's pretend yeah just hearing that element there of her saying
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but babes i wouldn't even go on stage because i respect you and man values that up here yeah yeah
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yeah absolutely a lot of women aren't taught this they keep thinking that oh wait okay big breasts
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big ass look innocent that's what and and and and if anything outside of that they'll attack you for
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it and it's like if they really understood the diameters of how deep it is i don't think the goal for
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certain lies what are you what are you showing over there sorry his girl's texting him how sexy he is
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from the event we just went to right she sent me these photos and i was like b why are you so pretty
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she was like because i have a sexy man next to me good man lucky maybe i should stop this guys
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you need that because you know it's guys nice men have emotions too you have to understand like
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to some degree you're like it's not even about let's make this way it's about sometimes you just
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want to feel nice as well you know and that respect is how i translate you are making me feel nice respect
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is love for me respect is my type of that's like when you give me respect yeah i'm just like that
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appeals to my emotions you know yeah that makes me feel positive happy door for me and kicks in my head
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because i'm like to myself yo you respect to me makes me feel i've got a solid team to take on the world
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but it's like you're not respecting me it's me versus you and the world bro and boom and that's
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why that's why these girls they'll date a guy and he'll date him for like three four five years but
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he'll never put a ring on her finger yeah but then he dates another girl and he dates one to two years
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and boom you know you know why why because she gives him peace of mind i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry
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peace of mind amen you know i have to worry about her what are her hoe ass friends texting her yeah
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what is she posting some haram shit on her instagram like a man a man every day has to wake up
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and it doesn't matter if you're in the middle class top of the line whatever the case may be
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every man every day a man has to wake up and fight the world damn straight and the last thing he wants
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to fight is some ungrateful bitch in his life like he doesn't want to fight with that girl and a lot
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of guys they fucking have to make a deal with the devil and kind of get with girls that aren't
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necessarily checking all boxes i think that fight can be worse than than than any other fight really
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no no it's it's the worst thing and a lot of guys settle because they don't have the they don't
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have the abundance mindset yeah to think that they can get out there and get better or or get a woman of
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quality but yeah that's what that that's a big thing that a lot of women don't understand if you
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can bring your man peace of mind it's and especially
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no hoe like peace of mind of you not going out there hoeing around like i need to go on this
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girl's trip i need to go to the club with this i need to update my snapchat or any
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shit like guys don't want to deal like when a guy loves you the last thing he wants to do
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is imagine some dude banging you and if you're giving off all these symptoms of of ho
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shit like i know like modern culture we're supposed to be well you shouldn't do that you should respect
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the one more than a snapchat and all that but in a dot an ideal situation a guy doesn't want to have
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to put up with that that's why when you have a girl that brings you peace of mind and
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just not a drip of hoe activity around her he will give her the entire world you know he'll give
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and that's why these girls like they'll they'll they'll date because the guy will date them and
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put up with them for a couple years but then he dumps them and then he finds another girl who
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gives him that peace of mind it's over do you feel like when men are ready to get married they
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don't waste a lot of time yeah it yes but it it absolutely depends on the woman yes absolutely
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depends on women you know like like like him like kid's girlfriend texting him right now like
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i would never go on stage with chris brown and you're such a sexy man and stuff like
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that right there that that's why he won the fucking australia best actor award because he got a great
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woman at home supporting him that's a big part of it like oh you man man listen you know what like for
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example you know who's a great woman in this world i don't know if you guys know who she is you guys
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know who d devlin is no d devlin is conor mcgregor's uh wife and she had supported conor mcgregor from
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day one yeah and he she he was on welfare and she was working full time to help that man out and you
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could see when you watch these interviews with him that woman is like blindly loyal to mcgregor in a
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great way and because and he says it all time if i didn't have this great woman with me there is no way
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i would have been able to ascend to such great heights and and i'm not trying to like simp for
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women but the reality is very very very very true when you have when you're a man and you have a good
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woman by your side that does not give you stress and she makes you feel safe and she knows that you
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like the world is yours there's no treachery yeah you know i mean that's why these guys conquer and then
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the other side of the coin is when you have a treacherous bitch in your life and you have seen great men
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fallen from these great heights because they got some fucking hoe in the house with them with a ring
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on her finger and she thinks she knows some shit and that's how you see these guys well it's not even
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necessarily treacherous it's just if she is not supportive of you and your goals and that's treachery
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in my book yeah i've noticed it seems like just from what i've seen um guys it's like when they're ready
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to get married it's kind of like that's like they're like a guy once he's got his money figured out
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he'll kind of look at the girl next to him and be like is it her yes or no then dump her if it's a
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no and then he's like on a mission to find the girl he's like right absolutely when a guy when a guy
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really wants to get married he he does like in his mind because you do like you know i'm kind of at
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that phase now like i have made all the money i've slept with all the girls and now i'm like i'm looking for
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the one like the not like saying like my soulmate or the one that i'm that i can trust bring into my
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life and have children with right and when you're on that path like you're very vicious in the sense
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like okay like one red flag you're out yeah exactly no no time to waste you know i'm out like you're
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you did this no you're done you hate men no you're you have blue hair you're feminist no you're done
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you know i mean and like when you're in that mode too because i i'll tell you this too and i don't
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know if this is just subjective to me only but i feel like my like biological clock taking like i
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i see kids like i want children i want a son yeah and i i feel it i like i feel that i want a son you're
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37 37 yeah so this is what i feel like so you at 37 now you're on a mission you're you're looking for
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a wife yeah because if i were to get because what tate was saying is too is so true like what am i gonna
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do like go out there and just keep fucking hoes and keep like doing the same i already
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am bored i think if a girl met you at 30 right do you think that she could have gotten you to marry
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her at 30. no because i was too stupid yeah but that's that's what i i feel like sometimes girls
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will get bitter because they might date a guy that's like at the wrong time yes yeah some girls
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some girls can wait it out like if she met you at 30 and then at 37 like you look oh you look you're
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ready to do that oh she's there yeah no no i definitely agree with you yeah um but like it
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just it you know it just it's a timing thing too is it really it and it's timing based upon maturity and
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i think some guys they never mature too there's there's some guys like everybody like i think the
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world needs to realize like not everybody gets a happy ending i think like not everybody gets happy
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but i do think it's a lot to do with maturity as well but there is a gigantic fear factor that
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as a man i'm putting myself on the line if i get married right now true like in england in england
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especially it's only horrible here because in england i'm not sure how the um the prenup thing works
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exactly it doesn't exist here it doesn't exist here they do prenups here wow so it is yeah so so i
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i checked and they also they also incentivize abuse allegations here because they give you a free
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lawyer if she accuses you of abuse wow yeah yeah it's really i'm doing a documentary on divorce
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right now okay i didn't know that before i'm so you can't even get a prenup now i'm curious what
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you don't want to be me i can't remember if you said you want to get married i wouldn't legally no
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i was i was talking to i'm gonna ask you next though don't worry oh me me personally um i i i i'd never
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say never but getting legally married certainly is not high on the agenda no no no no do you want like
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kids and stuff again i'd never say never but i wasn't i was never the most paternal of people
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because i think because my family background was a bit screwed up and whatever so i think i think
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there's been some some stuff there um so so yeah that's kind of where i'm sitting at it at the moment
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i'm just okay so this question doesn't really apply so i'm just curious because 37 now you're looking
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for a wife i'm curious when when's the ideal age for you you don't marriage isn't high on the priority so
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what was the ideal age that you wanted to get married at me yeah you uh well i wouldn't get
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legally married just because have children yeah uh if i'm being honest i think the earliest i would
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look at would be like 35. how old are you i'm 29. okay okay okay yeah okay so 35 is the ideal age for
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you what about you you're you're 25 33. yeah i'd say that for me with absolute honesty i don't know
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when i'm ready when when i plan to be ready to be married only because it's like what i was saying
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earlier on a lot of the what i look for in marriage is to do heavily with the person as well growing
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into that marriage as well because like i could say to myself i'm ready for marriage yeah but if i don't
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feel this person's ready for marriage or we're compatible fully or or so like not fully but
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like it worked like like it has to do a lot with how the relationship has grown into that marriage too
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as well and that's a difficult thing to predict it's hard to say like any like everyone that's ever
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gotten with an ex before thought it was going to last forever everyone has got other things it didn't
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it's statistics it's just probability happens no i think it's just more like when do you know your
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world like what stage do you think you'd be like i'm ready to build a family with i'd say but this is
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the thing i could probably be at that stage right now would not know it like my thing's really to
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do with like how my relationship is yeah and how we're developing into coming into those stages
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because it's it's me also looking at how another human beings move in i'm not completely judging
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this off of my standard so it's based on the relationship you're in yeah yeah it's based the
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relationship i'm in and it's really based off of like how things like develop like it's not to say
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that like i'm not saying that oh we won't get married i just say that i'm literally i feel like
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you're well i'm watching the process and it's like i feel like oh you see like how you're at a
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stage of absolute certainty yeah i think that would just kick in for me when when we get to that stage
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and that could just be like you know now when we're married but that could probably be tomorrow it could
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be two years from now it could be five it could be i don't i don't want to say an answer and like you
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know yeah it's interesting how the age for marriage has sort of moved moved back so much like because
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you're like 23 my dad was 24 when he had me you know what i'm saying and it was normal back then
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yeah exactly exactly i don't know because they just they just have you on this consumerism hedonism
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shit because like i thought like when you get rich like you're just going to be always happy shopping
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at louis vuitton and going to these like high-end restaurants and stuff dan bilzerian talks about it
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like dan bilzerian said back in the day i used to be really happy going to outback like outback was like a
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10 out of 10 experience for him but then as he got rich like now it's like well going to flemings
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is 10 out of 10 experience for me but even now going to flemings is like you know like a six out
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of 10 because it's like a regular day just like same thing like when you sleep with a new girl like
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when you first when you just have sex in general like yes i had sex but then you start having sex
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with a bunch of girls like you know if you have sex like with two or three girls a day and you're
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like kind of used to it you're kind of like well you know that was cool but you just keep on like you
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have to keep on raising the bar to keep on stimulating your dopamine if you really want
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to get down to it but then you become like this dopamine slave that you're just like on this
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endless hedonistic treadmill that ultimately leads you nowhere and you have no fulfillment and i personally
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think because i just had this revelation recently i went home and i hung out with my my brother my
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brother got married when he was 20 he's now uh 31 and he has three kids he's been married since he was 20.
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he has three kids and i was hanging out with my nieces and nephews and the house and everything
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was just so chaotic and wild all the kids are hugging my legs they're like uncle john uncle john
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uncle john and i was so happy and i was so thrilled and just having the time of my life i was like oh my
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god this is free yeah like i'm not paying any money for this and i was just like i have all this money
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have all these expensive suits have my fake teeth you know i have everything you know and i'm just like
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fuck i missed the real reality of life i missed the meaning which is family and happiness i have a question
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if you met um a real virgin like not not the girl in the couch no a real a real virgin to the point you
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believed it and she said like i want to wait till we're married to have sex would you do it depends on how
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attractive she was and because you're just like a 200 pound virgin but she's cute let's just say she's
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cute honestly and she was like and i could know there was no treachery in her and she's down to make
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children yeah you could i mean you wouldn't know for sure but you you're you've got feeling she's
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telling the truth that you're discerning oh yeah you're discerning with yeah absolutely oh wow i would
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do it how long would you date her before you i mean i'm not trying i'm not gonna go two years no sex
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so like what six months if if everything's in line and like i meet her parents and everything's good
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and i'm like this bitch is not out for me for my money yeah you know like i would do it like i would
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do it like two months three to six months i'd do it and that's the thing it's like like i feel like
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if younger women heard that like that's the quickest way to get marriage from what do you think about
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what do you think about the counter argument that people sometimes bring on these shows though because
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what if you did that and then you're married to her and then somehow the sex is no good or you're kind of
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sexually compatible would that matter to you listen sex is like ice cream it's never really bad it's
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just like you know it's pretty good no matter what like i don't know bad sex bad sex has to be
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like she's got her legs locked up and she's like you know just like me like pushing you away like
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this is hurting too much like no sorry uh corn stars right are never sexually incompatible
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like you can become good at sex yeah that's a lie everyone can become good and that's what hoes
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say hoes like what if the sex was bad like okay i know you're a ho because your entire value is based
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upon sex don't even say that's mouth no like that's the thing like if you okay here's the thing uh when
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you love a woman and and you're really in tune with her and like mentally you're connected you're like damn
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i love this woman somebody stormed in this house i would kill everybody to like defend her yeah
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right missionaries enough yeah missionaries i don't need her to like jumping off me and throwing
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it back and all it actually if a woman like that speaking about my ex when a woman is like that's
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another thing she'd tell me she wasn't a sexual experience but she'd do some i was like
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where did you learn that you know as long as you are doing it consistently because let's say that
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you like like what would what would be the setting like if that's the type of sex and it's long breaks
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in between do you think that would be an issue for you or do you think like or do you think that
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wouldn't be an issue for you for me personally like in my relationships like i need sex when i want it
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to say something um no not as such i think i i kind of agree with john actually i was kind of being
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a playing devil's advocate there a little bit because i think you're right i think especially
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for guys i mean come on the sex is always kind of good sex is always good so so i do i do take your
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point i think if you seriously if i suppose the only issue is if you're then marrying her quite
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quickly in this hypothetical situation would you know would you have enough time to be able to really
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evaluate if she is the right person as a partner that's that's maybe that's what pearl saying like
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if you know if you really knew and everything was lined up yeah you know what i mean but i think that's
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in all to that question personally i also think i also think as well just just just just just no
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just part that one second just just to add to what john's said actually i think actually
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it's kind of going to be a funny thing for me to say but i think sex is actually overrated
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somewhat i think guys we place too much emphasis oh yeah man sex blah blah blah yes
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actually like like because when you're particularly when you're looking at a long-term relationship
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yeah the sex is gonna i don't say die off but it's it's gonna diminish it yeah yeah yeah yeah and and
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and that's that for me that's the number one way for me to spot a hoe as she's like when she talks
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one of her leading points is like sex or the quality of sex i'm like oh you you street walker
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you know like even the other way around girls gonna be like oh a guy that's talking about how
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big his dick is his dick clearly has to be small yeah yeah you know what i'm saying like i think it's
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like when when people lead with the insecurity we can spot the insecurity right i really think that's
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what it is but me personally i don't think i would um get like for marriage so could you repeat the question
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for me please was it um like if would i get married when was the ideal age for you to get married no
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no it was the virgin one um oh the virgin oh would you wait till marriage yeah no the reason the reason
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the reason the reason why i wouldn't wait till marriage is only because like i really think you
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truly know a woman when you start becoming sexual with her it's not to do with the sex i think things
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get revealed about their characteristic only because like you see you have to understand sex is a very
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vulnerable thing to do with someone so there's certain characteristics here certain ways that
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she'll act towards you more confidently after you two have sex maybe she can be more confidently clingy
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with you like like how many times you as they you know it's interesting i notice these like answers
00:23:19.520
change with guys like kind of right around the time they really want a wife and so when they're younger
00:23:26.880
they're like oh i don't care like we need to do yeah no it's true can i have sex with other people
00:23:33.360
what oh sorry so she's like uh we can't have sex but i'm guessing i can't that's the thing right
00:23:40.880
you gotta be that's when you're a mafia status you got your mistress on the side to handle you
00:23:46.240
i just think you see more of a person when you when you like when you have sex with them it'd be
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interesting to ask but i i think you know going back to this because uh like i i agree with troy
00:23:57.600
because you know we're i think all of us on the panel are we get enough sex we're like ah sex is
00:24:02.480
overrated i'm in a relationship guys well but i i i think the number one thing is this too like when you
00:24:13.680
like and i know like the red bill community is like anti-love but like when you actually love a woman
00:24:19.920
like it's really not like the sex is amazing it's just icing on the cake because you already love her
00:24:27.600
yeah yeah you know i mean sex doesn't make you fall in love with a woman like her personality her goodness
00:24:33.680
like you know like if she makes the bed in the morning like like she massages you stuff like that
00:24:40.240
that's what you would fall in love like you know that's that's what makes you fall in love like you know
00:24:44.240
when you like i was dating a girl one time and i went hiking on a mountain and she's like i got you
00:24:49.120
these like feet things to like put on your feet to like help you after that i was like i will kill
00:24:55.360
every man in the world for you you know emotion i think kills relationships when the women get
00:25:06.880
spiteful when it starts to be about keeping score what do you mean yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah what do
00:25:12.320
you mean exactly that's like you can almost see women when they're older like in their in their 40s
00:25:16.640
and you can just tell they've been keeping score for like 20 years that's like building up resentment
00:25:21.760
over a little tit for tat yeah yeah yeah you know let's like when you're when you hang out with your
00:25:26.320
boys too like you know if you're really good friends with your boys you're like all right
00:25:29.920
sit down i'm paying like you know you're just fighting like i'm paying i'm paying i'm paying but
00:25:33.600
if you're like with a phrase like oh i paid last time so you gotta pay this time like you listen
00:25:36.880
here you cheap fuck yeah get the fuck out of here you know your boys like listen i know you're broke
00:25:45.200
shut the fuck up i'm gonna pay you start finessing but that's why i don't think these like 50 50 we
00:25:51.520
have equal say equal partnership relationships work because no you're constantly keeping score of who
00:25:57.040
made the decision last time or what time you like no listen all all of these it's supposed to be a
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default to him no listen all of the all of these like all these anti red pill channels all these
00:26:09.360
anti-conservative channels all these libtards all these people trying to talk shit about saying that
00:26:15.120
their way of doing things is superior we've been doing it that way and everybody is fucking miserable
00:26:22.480
you walking in the streets people are not happy in today's modern times women's misery index is the
00:26:28.400
highest it's ever been in america they are not happy so when they're trying to say like oh we gotta
00:26:33.760
do like we've read this study that was funded by these people from john hopkins university and they
00:26:38.720
said that we should do it this this this this way it's like yeah well we've been doing that and there's
00:26:43.120
like a million women crying on tick tock about how miserable they are and how single they are i don't
00:26:48.320
want to be independent you know how many videos i've been seeing of that recently yeah it's so beautiful
00:26:53.120
it's so beautiful i love it i love it so much no like the way that things are going right now
00:26:57.920
are that's why people like andrew tate are celebrating he's literally the most googled man in
00:27:02.400
the world like that because he's pretty he's preaching traditional values you know we've we've given this
00:27:08.720
like new age order their chance and they have completely failed everyone well and i had like a red pill
00:27:16.640
moment the other day where i realized like most people have never seen a real traditional relationship
00:27:22.560
yeah because behind the scenes the moms usually run the show and you can look at that in consumer buying
00:27:27.600
decisions like men are supposed to make the financial decisions in a household that's
00:27:32.480
traditional 80 women make 80 of consumer buying decisions most people have not seen it most people's
00:27:38.080
mothers will not say okay if the father makes a decision she disagrees with and a lot of times
00:27:43.200
there's like a whole generation of dads that are just trying to make their wives happy yeah
00:27:48.160
i have a curious question for you is there anything andrew tate has said that you've seen that you disagree with
00:27:53.840
me uh all right this question to everyone actually i don't question everyone but it was many yeah the
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first time i didn't i saw him i didn't like him because he had um he had a cheating party
00:28:05.200
so the first time i reacted to it i was like i was like i think i probably it's like i think i
00:28:10.800
insulted him or something i don't remember what i said because i was just like what is this attention
00:28:15.360
seeking god like why would you do why would you bring all the girls you're dating put a minute
00:28:22.720
and he was like oh they're crying and i was like that's cold i think the whole pushing for like
00:28:30.480
you know multiple women like when you when you're an average guy and you make like sixty thousand
00:28:36.400
dollars a year and you're like have a regular you know middle class job and you're like listen
00:28:40.960
bitch i'm about to go get another hoe like it is that's just not realistic so i don't think that's
00:28:48.160
good advice because when you give advice you want to give advice that is good for the majority of
00:28:52.960
people yeah now could some men pull that off i mean yeah they could but the majority people will fail
00:29:00.080
and then your message is perpetuating a life of misery for average people so i def i just think that
00:29:06.960
that needs to stop like i think these guys saying like oh well you know i have multiple women and
00:29:12.000
this and that like i think that's just terrible advice like you guys like one is nothing like the
00:29:18.000
reality is this too like tate had multiple women right and he's in romanian prison to this day like
00:29:26.080
even though it's false like he or there's no real evidence he's not been really officially locked down
00:29:32.160
he's in he's in prison because of that shit or he's you know he's on house arrest and dealing and
00:29:37.360
like in literally the worst time of his entire life based upon his own advice so i just think that's
00:29:44.880
one thing i wholeheartedly disagree with i do think the the me too allegation could happen from a wife
00:29:51.280
too though yeah i don't think you necessarily just because i with the divorce documentary there's so many
00:29:56.240
guys where it was their wife that did it to um yo yeah it just kind of transfers the the power you
00:30:02.560
know um you could argue it's more likely though with i think the main thing that like i want to
00:30:07.040
say this is a disagreement i think it was just like a realization when i clocked it like i say when he
00:30:12.000
first came out yeah and the way he explained his points yeah it would be with like a um with a level
00:30:17.440
of tenacity in it and obviously first looking in i could be like oh that's a bit harsh but then i think
00:30:21.680
i i've probably seen him say it or something like that of him say yo i'm playing a character
00:30:26.880
to some type of to some degree to gain a certain amount of attention and it was working and i think
00:30:31.680
the second that he said that i think that's when i like i actually truly like rated the guy only
00:30:36.160
because it's because he set a goal and he got the result and the foundations of the points aren't
00:30:42.720
destructive against what i believe in so like let's say okay be strong okay cool be like you know make
00:30:49.120
sure you're so financially stable okay cool keep yourself mentally um depression doesn't exist
00:30:53.280
obviously i can see how that can be controversial but keep yourself mentally good like because the
00:30:57.280
foundations yeah are like you know very like aligned with how i am as a person yeah is that's what makes
00:31:02.640
me agree but then let's say that flip in i don't know let's say you've heard of the the mizzy guy for
00:31:07.200
example yeah yeah imagine if you i thought he was you for a second when i met you because she said we're
00:31:14.000
gonna be busy she said yeah no i interviewed him he's probably gonna come back tomorrow for a show
00:31:21.120
actually yes but even even with that for example like let's say that okay him he's someone that's
00:31:26.560
blown up and he's playing but let's say that he's he's saying yeah kids need to jump into yards and
00:31:31.600
start like i couldn't agree with the foundation of the point like even if he's coming with the same
00:31:36.080
tenacity as andrew the foundations of his point lie in a negative direction towards what i believe in
00:31:41.360
but then something like what andrew takes is more positive towards what i believe in so i really
00:31:45.120
focus on the foundation of the point you're making not how you're saying it yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna
00:31:51.360
read super chats um okay i don't think sparkly water is necessarily going yeah still water's nice
00:32:01.600
i would say sorry just quit i said the the only thing i not primarily the main thing i disagreed when
00:32:06.320
he said that oh as a father he would go away for two weeks and then come back personally for me
00:32:11.040
i'd rather have a strong presence well i agree i agree with kid on that as well like you can't
00:32:18.800
just be like a pop in and out dad yeah that's for me i might disagree just slightly on this one i'm not
00:32:25.520
sure what i think it's an interesting one but that isn't sort of at the heart of because what i like
00:32:30.080
what i like one of the things i liked about the tights is they're quite sort of they're very much about
00:32:34.720
going out for your own path and not getting tied down in the normal domesticity that people get tied
00:32:38.800
into but that they're sort of the weight their work around as far as having kids is concerned
00:32:43.760
is well the father is there and he's the supportive but he doesn't need to be there
00:32:46.960
the whole time and a lot of people would disagree with that but a father being present is like
00:32:50.960
they have they have a study that if a father is just present in a household not if he doesn't even
00:32:59.840
talk if he doesn't even communicate but if a father is just present anxiety goes down depression
00:33:06.400
goes down the probability of her being a hoe goes down yeah this like not even being involved but
00:33:10.960
the fact of the father is just there so i can't i can't agree with like this whole like you know just
00:33:16.320
fuck off and you know be pop pop and be like a dad once every month you know what's interesting i actually
00:33:22.640
was like sort of that kid because my dad um he would go to india for like two weeks at a time
00:33:28.640
yeah um and so i think what you have to think about is you really can't have everything yeah
00:33:35.040
so what you know what i realized is that you know my dad was doing that because he loved us
00:33:40.880
and now i i could spend all the time i want with my dad because he was able to work so hard when we
00:33:45.760
were younger and now he's retired where a lot of my friends dads are still working into what was it
00:33:50.080
was it every month he was gone for half the month um i don't remember to be honest like are you telling the
00:33:56.800
truth i am i for a period of time i know he was gone a lot um so i i don't know how long that you
00:34:06.240
know your childhood's kind of blurry like yeah yeah i think i don't remember how long but but you
00:34:11.120
know because i i used to think about that would i rather had him like around more and i just was
00:34:15.520
like you know i don't have college debt i can spend all the time i want with my dad now which there's
00:34:21.040
way more time in the future than the past like i don't know i think i see where they're coming from
00:34:26.320
where like if you have to go build something yeah you're like your family will be okay if you have
00:34:31.440
to i definitely see where they're coming from because because when you think about it if you
00:34:34.320
go back a few generations the father was actually even if i look at my own family like my grandfather
00:34:39.440
quite quite a remote sort of figure yeah they weren't as like caring and sharing and nurturing as
00:34:44.480
as far as a sort of encouraged to be today so if you look about and look like back to victorian times
00:34:50.480
the father was actually quite remote from the family and often in upper class families you know the kid
00:34:55.600
would just get set off to boarding school anyway now you could argue well you know what was the
00:35:00.160
psychological outcome on the kids of that but that seemed to work pretty well for building the empire
00:35:07.920
my dad's actually the most selfless like person i know and the day that i realized that everything
00:35:14.080
that he did was for us that was the day like we had the best relationship yeah because every everything
00:35:20.320
my dad built was for us he he just wanted us to not have to pay for college because he spent like
00:35:25.760
most of his 20s in debt from all this college debt from a degree he didn't even get yeah my dad the same
00:35:30.880
and yeah and all he like wanted was like i remember one day when i was like younger um i was like
00:35:37.120
bitching about my dad to my mom i was like i was like mom like like dad this dad like i was just being a
00:35:42.800
teenager right you know yeah well i was i didn't always speak this highly you know people are stupid
00:35:47.600
teenagers yeah for sure and she just like looked at me and she's like do you know what he did for
00:35:51.280
you today and she's like he did this he took your bags out of the car he drove an hour and a half to
00:35:55.600
come see you play your volleyball game this this this this this she paid for this this this and i've
00:36:01.440
never been so humbled in my life i was just like okay yeah i'm a brat but i just think it's like important
00:36:10.000
that you teach the kids like that mindset that's like everything they're doing is for you oh yeah and and
00:36:15.040
for the record i i think for me i wouldn't say that oh i'd have i would be there 24 7 and i've
00:36:20.560
even had this conversation like i was saying oh would you be okay if i was there for like three days a
00:36:24.320
week and then had my own place for like four days a week but i did see a clip or when andrew taters
00:36:28.640
talked about his dad would be gone for like two three months at a time yeah i think for me two
00:36:32.400
months is a bit much like ideally at least two months yeah that's what i'm saying yeah it's a lot
00:36:38.960
it's a little extreme i think that i'd want a stronger presence but like what uh what kid
00:36:45.680
is saying that's actually healthy for the relationship like you do need a degree of
00:36:50.480
separation in your relationships because when you're constantly on top of each other you're
00:36:55.120
gonna like i don't fucking want to kill this bitch like you know you just like you're when you're on
00:36:59.440
top of each other you have no room to separate and appreciate you you got to give your girl an
00:37:06.320
opportunity to miss you but you know you know what i mean though like i think my standpoint's like a
00:37:12.000
bit of a different perspective to what everyone said as well is because my parents like on are
00:37:16.400
separate like they like i grew up not seeing my parents hug or kiss like if i'm being honest with
00:37:22.400
you if i saw my mom and dad kiss each other right now that would be weird to me because i've not grown
00:37:27.920
up with that psychologically being normal to me because i haven't seen that so i'm used to the ideology of
00:37:34.160
me just being at my mom's then me going to my dad's when i need to go see my dad then me coming
00:37:38.880
back to mama and see my mom and because of that that that that um that's that separative element
00:37:43.760
that i grew up with it's also not necessarily affecting my okay it's it's probably affecting
00:37:48.720
me for relationships where i'm saying when i grow up i don't want that for my kids where i do want to
00:37:52.640
i do want them to be able to see what their parents are like together but at the same time yeah
00:37:56.400
i'm also looking at the impact he had on me whilst i was growing i feel yeah that even though
00:38:01.360
them two were separate my dad was a very present father he like i'd only have to see him once every
00:38:07.120
three weeks but it's in that in that few seconds i've seen him yeah it would be my whole like that's
00:38:12.160
all i needed you know like like just go to the park a bit kicking the ball a bit going for a bike ride
00:38:16.320
that little thing yeah i'll take that memory over my mom shouting at me in the morning to clean up
00:38:20.240
something 20 times yeah and it'll be the same level because it's like it's not to me say that i love
00:38:24.480
my dad more than my mom it's just that like as the the father is pretty impactful on the child and
00:38:30.080
and especially when you're a male and father is going to help solve your problems in a way that
00:38:34.320
women just like can't because we're too emotional and we get like stressed yeah and so when you like
00:38:39.680
when we have all these problems like you bring your mom a problem it's like there's stress to it but
00:38:44.320
it's like dads are so focused on like fixing the problem and like i i see why like stoicism is so
00:38:50.720
needed in society because we just cannot do what men do we are not the same and we keep painting to
00:38:56.400
women that we can be the same and we are just not um yeah sorry what what you're saying um is
00:39:03.920
kind of in line with what tate's saying isn't it because because tate was saying you know his father
00:39:07.200
was away for months on time but his father was also such a strong presence in his life and they still
00:39:13.200
talk if my father wasn't there we wouldn't have the relationship that we have now and and you could
00:39:18.240
you could argue i mean obviously tate is in the situation he's in now but he became the most
00:39:23.120
google man in the world yeah so the fact that his father wasn't there the whole time he still
00:39:27.760
got on to like he didn't need yeah yeah you know so there's there's i can see arguments on both sides
00:39:33.680
also as well i do find that for example i have a friend that's in a relationship right now in it
00:39:37.840
and obviously i know what life was like when me and him were both single and me and him were both just
00:39:42.480
men just in society just going through university just being men in it and i also seen the changes in
00:39:47.840
him when he when he became a father and he settled down in a relationship and don't get it twisted
00:39:53.440
his relationship is his happiness it's his pride it's his family he loves his family so and so forth
00:39:57.680
but there was an element yeah of and this is just pure honesty from my side you know that inner animal
00:40:03.920
that inner drive that that thing that that kick there was an element of that lowering like he loved
00:40:10.560
music now he's not doing he doesn't want he can't be about to do this was your friend this is my
00:40:14.240
this is my friend i like my friend he's a male he's a male friend of mine oh and he's in a relationship
00:40:19.360
he's in a relationship and he has a child and the thing is that like the relationship he loves the
00:40:23.600
relationship i'm not saying that anything's wrong with that element however yeah i know i know what
00:40:28.640
he looked like when he was just on his own and that drive that i saw in him to just do to just do
00:40:34.080
regular tasks when he got into a relationship yeah he wasn't less more he was less he was less
00:40:39.520
motivated yeah like when i was speaking to him he was less oh yeah the baby's crying all day i'd like
00:40:44.560
i don't know how megan i don't know how my girlfriend those who all day she's strong she's
00:40:47.680
strong for that but like me i was baby and it's like it's not to say no don't get this year he he
00:40:52.560
loves that child and he loves that woman that is his family but that element has decreased because
00:40:58.880
of that relationship to some degree what's your opinion go on you're gonna say somebody's gonna drop
00:41:03.200
the testosterone thing yeah so your testosterone drops when you're in a relationship but
00:41:07.600
particularly when you're in a domestic relationship you know it's funny though the
00:41:10.400
one thing that stops your testosterone from dropping in those relationships go on do you know
00:41:15.280
do you guys know what is it try and you cheat on your girl i'm not involved oh my god
00:41:24.240
i'm just a scientist i'm just a scientist savage savage yeah i guess you're still out there but
00:41:29.600
yeah statistically speaking your testosterone does drop especially when you have children so what does
00:41:33.440
that mean so how do you like translate that information you got to cheat
00:41:37.600
you're just like don't lie don't lie don't lie don't lie don't lie don't lie oh the