JustPearlyThings - Body Positivity Activist Advocating for Obesity

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00:00:00.920 Imagine, look, you're a fit person.

00:00:04.240 You're fit, you exercise, I can see that.

00:00:06.180 You take care of yourself and that.

00:00:08.740 Now, imagine, yeah, there's a big person

00:00:11.800 and they're already kind of suffering.

00:00:13.920 We know they're unhealthy.

00:00:15.000 They're suffering, they've got knee problems,

00:00:17.460 they've got all sorts.

00:00:19.320 And now, they're not even surviving.

00:00:22.360 Like, they're finding it hard.

00:00:23.280 And I'm talking about an unhealthy big person.

00:00:25.520 And now, you're saying,

00:00:26.900 oh, you're fat, ha, ha, ha, blah, blah, blah.

00:00:31.060 Never do that.

00:00:31.900 Who does that?

00:00:33.680 People do, and that's what I've faced.

00:00:36.120 I have faced that, Pearl.

00:00:37.620 That's the sad thing, I've faced it.

00:00:39.780 So when you, I'm sorry,

00:00:41.140 obviously you may not do that, but people do that.

00:00:43.580 I'd like to hear from the PT a little bit.

00:00:44.900 I want to see how you respond to this, yeah.

00:00:47.440 I have a cousin from Trinidad two weeks ago

00:00:50.020 that died from a cardiac arrest

00:00:52.840 due to all obesity.

00:00:55.400 Now, she was one of the most comfortable

00:00:59.120 in asking, happiest person,

00:01:02.060 make everyone laugh type of person.

00:01:05.620 And she was definitely unbothered

00:01:08.040 with this entire world.

00:01:09.940 Would you call that body positivity?

00:01:12.620 First question.

00:01:14.260 Would you say health is a priority to you?

00:01:18.420 Yeah, 100%.

00:01:19.340 1,000%.

00:01:20.640 100%.

00:01:22.200 1,000%.

00:01:23.440 In theory.

00:01:25.940 What does in theory mean?

00:01:28.020 Yes?

00:01:28.580 No?

00:01:29.320 Well, it's a loaded question.

00:01:30.420 I can say that health is a priority,

00:01:32.340 but I think I have unhealthy habits

00:01:35.280 that I'm not actively addressing.

00:01:37.240 Some of them I'm trying to.

00:01:38.380 The progress is slow, but it's there.

00:01:41.000 So, yeah, I'd say it is a priority,

00:01:44.900 but there are levels to it.

00:01:47.000 Okay.

00:01:47.840 What about you?

00:01:48.560 Is health a priority?

00:01:49.780 Yeah, I think health is a complete priority,

00:01:51.600 but I also don't think that that totally relates

00:01:53.420 to body positivity.

00:01:54.820 Okay.

00:01:55.360 If that makes sense.

00:01:56.880 Okay.

00:01:58.360 Explain that more.

00:01:59.880 So, for me, like, health is a priority.

00:02:03.100 It's something I struggle with.

00:02:04.680 Like, I struggle.

00:02:05.300 If I could press a button

00:02:06.340 and be, like, the healthiest weight in the world,

00:02:07.900 of course I would push it in an instant.

00:02:09.680 And I think anyone would be lying

00:02:10.640 if they said that they wouldn't push that button

00:02:12.120 to just be a healthy weight instantly

00:02:13.820 and have all these things.

00:02:15.420 But for me, I struggle with it,

00:02:17.540 and I don't think that that makes me a bad person.

00:02:19.480 I don't think that means

00:02:20.080 I should think less of myself for that.

00:02:22.180 And that's why I don't really associate that

00:02:23.540 with body positivity,

00:02:24.120 because I don't hate myself for it,

00:02:26.380 even if it's something I should aspire to.

00:02:27.860 I think the girls had long answers there.

00:02:31.760 A lot of the guys in the room

00:02:33.480 immediately go 100%, 1,000%.

00:02:36.320 And then for the girls, it's like,

00:02:37.920 ah, it's complicated.

00:02:39.060 It's a long answer.

00:02:40.200 Yeah.

00:02:40.740 I just feel like, is it a priority

00:02:42.220 or is it not a priority?

00:02:43.200 It should be a, I think, all-around priority.

00:02:45.940 Yeah.

00:02:47.280 Health is 1,000% a priority.

00:02:49.100 That's the reason why you wake up.

00:02:50.200 That's the reason why you get off your bed

00:02:51.540 and walk like you have to be healthy

00:02:54.040 to be able to live, right?

00:02:55.280 Mm-hmm.

00:02:57.060 So who here would you,

00:02:59.300 would say is actively trying to lose weight?

00:03:01.820 I am.

00:03:02.380 You are?

00:03:02.860 100%.

00:03:03.180 You are?

00:03:03.780 Yeah.

00:03:03.980 And what have you guys done?

00:03:05.460 Is it like workout, diet?

00:03:07.900 Yeah.

00:03:08.280 Gym membership, going to the gym,

00:03:09.720 trying to be more consistent with it

00:03:11.080 and making adjustments to eating habits

00:03:15.140 but also mindset as well.

00:03:17.220 Okay.

00:03:17.860 What do you mean by mindset?

00:03:20.200 Not seeing working out

00:03:22.460 and, you know,

00:03:23.580 the steps towards prioritizing my health

00:03:25.720 which are admittedly quite difficult,

00:03:28.140 some of them more than others,

00:03:29.560 as punishment,

00:03:30.280 but seeing it as a reward.

00:03:31.300 I think health is a reward for discipline

00:03:33.840 and just loving yourself a little bit more.

00:03:36.920 But if you see it as punishment,

00:03:38.000 it becomes something that you don't want to do.

00:03:40.100 Mm-hmm.

00:03:40.580 So, yeah, changing my mindset

00:03:42.080 to reward as opposed to punishment.

00:03:43.640 Mm-hmm.

00:03:44.740 That's good.

00:03:47.220 Can, could you turn up the headphones a little bit?

00:03:49.520 I'm just having a hard time hearing people.

00:03:53.800 Okay.

00:03:54.400 Thank you.

00:03:57.160 Okay.

00:03:57.760 So next question.

00:03:59.500 Do you guys think that body positivity

00:04:01.680 promotes healthiness?

00:04:03.000 Yes.

00:04:04.240 Promotes health.

00:04:05.740 Depends what aspect they're looking at it from.

00:04:10.520 Body positivity.

00:04:12.020 I know in the last,

00:04:13.460 last week we had this discussion

00:04:15.360 about body positivity

00:04:16.540 and for me,

00:04:19.120 it's not about me being on a big magazine

00:04:21.660 or people like me being promoted.

00:04:24.100 It's more about,

00:04:26.440 like, for example,

00:04:28.680 being accommodated for,

00:04:30.800 in public services

00:04:32.280 and being mistreated

00:04:34.780 just because of the size.

00:04:36.020 Now, I understand

00:04:36.960 I am the size I am,

00:04:41.020 but at the end of the day,

00:04:43.000 people with disabilities

00:04:44.080 are also my size

00:04:45.400 and people,

00:04:46.520 how do you know

00:04:47.400 if I don't have a hidden disability?

00:04:49.080 No one knows.

00:04:49.960 Mm-hmm.

00:04:50.740 So I'm just saying

00:04:52.620 that's why,

00:04:53.680 to me,

00:04:54.000 body positivity is important

00:04:55.360 so that people don't get mistreated.

00:04:56.980 Mm-hmm.

00:04:57.500 I think that body positivity

00:05:00.100 isn't important

00:05:01.000 in terms of mental health.

00:05:02.120 I think there's a lot of people

00:05:02.800 that really hate themselves

00:05:03.880 because of their weight

00:05:05.460 and I personally,

00:05:07.160 like, on my socials,

00:05:08.080 get a lot of comments

00:05:08.760 from people saying

00:05:09.500 that they are so happy

00:05:10.880 to see somebody my size

00:05:12.180 comfortable with themselves

00:05:13.460 and happy

00:05:14.160 and posing in bikinis

00:05:15.840 and things like that.

00:05:16.540 Like, all of my last Instagram posts

00:05:17.740 have been me in bikinis

00:05:18.580 and I've got so many comments

00:05:19.860 from people being like,

00:05:20.960 wow, I wish I could wear that

00:05:22.000 or I am going to wear that

00:05:23.180 because you wore that

00:05:24.580 and it makes me feel like I can,

00:05:26.180 which I think some people

00:05:26.840 would take as a backhanded compliment

00:05:28.000 but for me,

00:05:28.780 like, as somebody,

00:05:29.580 I'm trying to lose weight,

00:05:30.380 I'm trying to be healthier

00:05:31.060 because I know it's a priority,

00:05:32.960 I know it's something

00:05:33.380 I need to do in my life

00:05:34.200 but it's not my reality right now.

00:05:35.940 Like, I'm not at my full health,

00:05:37.320 I'm not the best

00:05:38.360 I could possibly be

00:05:39.240 but I'm still,

00:05:40.320 I don't hate myself for that

00:05:41.600 and I think that

00:05:42.600 the fat shaming movement

00:05:44.440 and, like,

00:05:45.040 just being like,

00:05:46.120 these fat whales,

00:05:47.020 like, what the fuck are they doing?

00:05:47.880 Who would say that?

00:05:48.620 What are they?

00:05:48.960 That's like, horrible.

00:05:50.440 Your whole chat right now.

00:05:51.860 Who would?

00:05:52.380 Who would say that?

00:05:52.720 Everyone in the chat right now

00:05:54.020 that's like,

00:05:54.400 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:05:55.960 In fact, Doug MPA.

00:05:56.460 Hey, hey.

00:05:57.800 Who's always like,

00:05:59.020 that ginger whale,

00:05:59.900 I'm watching you, Doug.

00:06:01.080 I've seen your whales.

00:06:01.580 Hey, hey, hey, hey.

00:06:02.580 I only,

00:06:03.260 I say the whales.

00:06:04.880 No, but,

00:06:05.680 Unless I am insulted

00:06:06.820 or attacked,

00:06:07.640 then I will.

00:06:08.280 I don't think

00:06:09.120 that fat shaming

00:06:09.840 helps anyone lose weight

00:06:11.000 and I think the way that

00:06:12.080 It helps me lose weight.

00:06:12.820 The way that I have been though

00:06:14.280 It helps me lose weight.

00:06:14.720 is I'm like,

00:06:15.440 I've gone online

00:06:16.340 and I've said,

00:06:16.840 like,

00:06:16.940 I want to lose weight

00:06:17.560 and I've held myself

00:06:18.160 accountability,

00:06:19.000 like, online.

00:06:20.060 Really?

00:06:20.260 Like, yeah,

00:06:20.860 I made a video.

00:06:21.500 How much weight have you lost?

00:06:22.960 So since I made that video,

00:06:24.100 I've lost a stone.

00:06:25.080 Okay.

00:06:25.560 That's great.

00:06:26.100 Yeah.

00:06:26.480 How much is a stone?

00:06:27.660 I don't know either.

00:06:28.780 14 pounds.

00:06:30.040 14 pounds.

00:06:30.900 Like, 7 kilos.

00:06:31.720 Okay.

00:06:32.240 Okay.

00:06:32.500 Yeah.

00:06:32.740 So I made a video

00:06:33.780 because I wasn't allowed

00:06:34.960 down a slide

00:06:35.820 that I wanted to go down

00:06:37.040 and that was like

00:06:37.920 a moment for me

00:06:38.620 where I was like,

00:06:39.280 oh,

00:06:39.520 like,

00:06:39.720 I should be allowed

00:06:40.260 down this slide.

00:06:40.940 You know,

00:06:41.220 like,

00:06:41.440 that was a moment

00:06:42.580 where I felt like,

00:06:43.680 okay,

00:06:43.860 I need to do something

00:06:44.520 and it wasn't because

00:06:45.060 I felt shame or whatever.

00:06:46.080 It was just like,

00:06:46.820 a bit of a like,

00:06:47.500 oh,

00:06:47.620 the average person

00:06:48.320 can do this

00:06:48.800 and I can't do it.

00:06:49.560 Yeah.

00:06:49.820 So I was like,

00:06:50.420 I need to lose weight,

00:06:51.400 but it doesn't mean

00:06:52.340 I don't respect anyone

00:06:53.320 less for being overweight.

00:06:54.420 I understand what it's like

00:06:55.140 to be overweight.

00:06:55.580 I've been skinny.

00:06:56.180 I've been overweight

00:06:56.680 and I just,

00:06:57.800 I do think the body

00:06:58.400 positivity moment

00:06:59.040 is important for people

00:07:00.600 to like themselves

00:07:01.840 and I think the best way

00:07:02.560 to lose weight

00:07:03.000 is by liking yourself

00:07:04.240 because you're doing

00:07:04.640 something good for yourself.

00:07:05.620 I actually think that

00:07:06.880 for me personally,

00:07:07.840 when I lost weight,

00:07:08.920 it was because

00:07:09.800 I didn't like myself.

00:07:10.980 I didn't like the way

00:07:11.740 I looked

00:07:12.240 and then it motivated me

00:07:13.820 to lose weight.

00:07:15.300 So I,

00:07:15.620 and actually it was funny

00:07:16.980 because when I did lose weight,

00:07:18.940 it was because someone,

00:07:20.140 I mean,

00:07:20.540 they didn't bully me directly,

00:07:21.780 but they were talking

00:07:22.500 about how they would

00:07:22.960 never date a girl

00:07:23.620 over 200 pounds

00:07:24.800 and I was like,

00:07:25.880 no,

00:07:26.540 I'm over,

00:07:27.180 yeah,

00:07:27.300 I thought he was cute.

00:07:28.040 So I was like,

00:07:28.380 no.

00:07:29.100 Well,

00:07:29.440 Pearl baby,

00:07:30.140 there's everybody

00:07:31.080 for everybody.

00:07:32.100 What?

00:07:32.760 Pearl baby,

00:07:33.520 there's everything

00:07:34.100 for everybody.

00:07:34.780 Trust me.

00:07:35.120 If you're overweight,

00:07:36.000 you're 30%,

00:07:37.000 you're 30%,

00:07:38.060 as a woman,

00:07:38.640 you're 30% less likely

00:07:41.120 to get married.

00:07:41.620 You need to stop

00:07:42.420 following statistics

00:07:43.460 because you got,

00:07:44.400 listen,

00:07:44.620 you don't know

00:07:45.820 the power

00:07:46.420 that big women have.

00:07:48.000 They captivate men.

00:07:49.360 I've seen it happen.

00:07:50.780 I've seen it happen.

00:07:52.620 I'm not even joking.

00:07:54.940 You're also six foot though.

00:07:56.460 I would say 200 pound

00:07:57.340 on you would look

00:07:58.000 very different

00:07:58.440 on five foot four,

00:07:59.280 200 pound.

00:07:59.940 Oh,

00:08:00.400 it's not to say like,

00:08:02.700 I know that's why

00:08:03.220 they were making fun of it.

00:08:04.080 They didn't know

00:08:04.400 how big I was

00:08:05.460 at the time,

00:08:06.060 but,

00:08:07.160 but no,

00:08:07.880 I was still overweight.

00:08:08.860 So it's still like,

00:08:10.500 I was still overweight

00:08:11.540 when I looked at like

00:08:12.500 my numbers.

00:08:13.380 So,

00:08:14.060 you know,

00:08:14.500 but it helped me.

00:08:15.520 Like I ended up losing

00:08:16.520 like 30 pounds

00:08:17.460 at the time.

00:08:18.140 So,

00:08:18.800 and I never gained it back.

00:08:20.140 So.

00:08:20.820 You seem like a person

00:08:21.840 who's well adjusted

00:08:22.720 and quite mentally stable though.

00:08:24.140 And I don't think

00:08:24.540 that's the case for everybody.

00:08:25.960 And I think when you tell

00:08:26.900 a lot of fat people,

00:08:27.740 like you're overweight

00:08:28.520 and that's disgusting,

00:08:29.320 they'll comfort eat.

00:08:30.220 And if you don't comfort eat,

00:08:31.600 that's never been in your nature.

00:08:32.580 You're never going to do that.

00:08:34.000 Well,

00:08:34.280 yeah,

00:08:34.500 but I think the solution

00:08:35.400 would be to maybe

00:08:36.100 stop comfort eating

00:08:37.060 and like figure something else out.

00:08:39.040 Comfort eating

00:08:39.520 is a coping mechanism

00:08:40.700 that people do

00:08:41.720 that makes them overweight,

00:08:43.040 you know?

00:08:43.400 So when you tell someone

00:08:44.120 like you're a fat cow,

00:08:45.240 they're going to be like,

00:08:45.880 oh,

00:08:45.960 I'm sad.

00:08:46.480 So I'm going to comfort eat.

00:08:47.200 I think we change

00:08:47.940 the definition

00:08:48.520 of body positivity

00:08:50.120 because what body positivity is

00:08:52.540 to me is numbers.

00:08:54.440 If you step on a scale

00:08:55.620 and you see some numbers

00:08:57.260 and then you become

00:08:58.240 a better version of yourself

00:08:59.860 every single day,

00:09:00.920 week or month

00:09:01.520 and you see

00:09:02.840 numbers that improve,

00:09:04.680 that's a positive result.

00:09:07.220 So body positivity

00:09:07.920 is becoming better

00:09:11.640 every day.

00:09:13.440 Yeah,

00:09:13.720 but I feel like

00:09:14.380 the question was

00:09:15.360 does body positivity

00:09:17.060 promote health?

00:09:18.260 And it's not.

00:09:19.460 It does,

00:09:19.840 yeah,

00:09:19.940 exactly.

00:09:20.140 If you're telling people

00:09:21.660 it's okay to be

00:09:22.620 at a heavy weight

00:09:23.560 or okay to be obese

00:09:25.000 and that's not healthy.

00:09:26.860 By the science,

00:09:28.440 it's not possible

00:09:28.960 to be healthy.

00:09:29.740 So to answer Pearl's question,

00:09:31.660 it doesn't promote health.

00:09:32.840 It doesn't promote positivity.

00:09:35.640 I would say

00:09:36.400 it promotes mental health,

00:09:37.960 not physical health,

00:09:38.980 no,

00:09:39.700 because that's not

00:09:40.400 the aim of the game.

00:09:41.520 But in terms of mental health

00:09:42.400 and making people feel

00:09:42.920 guilty about themselves

00:09:43.580 and likely to make

00:09:44.700 good choices about themselves,

00:09:45.840 I don't.

00:09:46.480 I just would think

00:09:47.140 the first step

00:09:47.820 with mental health

00:09:48.600 is your eating still

00:09:49.660 because they say

00:09:50.260 sugar affects your brain.

00:09:51.680 I could pull up

00:09:52.660 the research on it

00:09:53.440 but I know there's

00:09:54.000 negative mental health

00:09:55.300 effects from sugar.

00:09:56.640 This is true

00:09:57.080 but I think

00:09:57.620 the point of body positivity

00:09:59.060 is not to say

00:10:00.440 that it's okay

00:10:01.180 to be fat

00:10:01.700 and to encourage people

00:10:02.680 to be fat.

00:10:03.460 Yeah.

00:10:04.380 I completely agree

00:10:05.500 with you.

00:10:05.980 Body positivity

00:10:06.780 does not necessarily

00:10:07.940 promote health

00:10:08.620 but it promotes

00:10:09.340 not hating yourself

00:10:10.740 while you look like

00:10:11.660 what you look like.

00:10:12.480 Don't waste

00:10:13.020 a perfectly good day

00:10:14.420 inside

00:10:15.300 feeling like

00:10:16.160 you can't go

00:10:16.680 to that party

00:10:17.300 or you can't go

00:10:18.760 to work

00:10:19.160 and being a shut-in

00:10:20.100 because you think

00:10:21.180 people are going

00:10:21.740 to take the mick

00:10:22.920 out of you

00:10:23.260 because you're fat.

00:10:24.480 Don't waste

00:10:25.160 a perfectly good life

00:10:26.420 because you're not

00:10:27.140 where you want

00:10:28.060 to be right now.

00:10:29.380 Absolutely.

00:10:30.300 The body positivity

00:10:31.380 movement

00:10:31.920 should focus

00:10:34.460 on health

00:10:34.980 a little bit more

00:10:35.760 but I think

00:10:36.640 for the individuals

00:10:37.460 concerned

00:10:38.200 it's about

00:10:38.940 not hating themselves

00:10:40.020 and as I said

00:10:40.540 not punishing themselves

00:10:41.500 for not being

00:10:41.940 where they want to be.

00:10:42.500 She's saying

00:10:43.040 mental health

00:10:43.660 but wouldn't it

00:10:44.760 be better

00:10:45.820 like in Pearls

00:10:47.300 case

00:10:47.720 to get bullied

00:10:48.820 and say

00:10:49.680 hey

00:10:49.940 you're getting

00:10:50.540 a bit pudgy

00:10:51.120 you're getting

00:10:51.380 a bit fat

00:10:51.980 maybe lose the weight

00:10:53.660 and that'll promote

00:10:54.640 better mental health

00:10:55.500 and you're more

00:10:56.740 comfortable with

00:10:57.340 how you look

00:10:57.940 you're feeling healthier

00:10:59.500 I'm not saying

00:11:00.900 I'm for bullying

00:11:01.680 but if it gets you

00:11:02.560 to a better place

00:11:04.480 and more comfortable

00:11:05.560 with how you look

00:11:06.280 I think it's

00:11:07.320 the right way to go

00:11:08.940 especially when it comes

00:11:09.680 to your physique

00:11:10.180 and how you look.

00:11:10.880 And how would you know that?

00:11:11.700 I also think

00:11:12.180 people misplease

00:11:12.940 body positivity

00:11:14.000 with mental positivity

00:11:15.240 so what we're talking

00:11:16.700 about is

00:11:17.220 mental positivity

00:11:17.980 like what you just

00:11:18.760 explained

00:11:19.260 is more in control

00:11:21.240 of the mind

00:11:21.720 than the body

00:11:22.220 because when you think

00:11:23.240 about body positivity

00:11:24.460 and that we're promoting

00:11:25.660 obesity or fat

00:11:27.520 then it's not positive

00:11:28.780 it's more going

00:11:29.720 into the negative zone

00:11:30.620 and statistically

00:11:32.240 numbers will show that.

00:11:34.540 Wouldn't you rather

00:11:35.120 have someone

00:11:35.800 that pulls you aside

00:11:37.080 and say hey

00:11:37.440 I think you're getting

00:11:37.840 a little bit unhealthy

00:11:38.500 or hey

00:11:38.920 you're putting on

00:11:39.800 some weight

00:11:40.220 maybe you should

00:11:41.180 hit the gym

00:11:41.920 eat healthier

00:11:42.600 I'd like to have

00:11:43.640 someone in my life

00:11:44.680 like that

00:11:45.060 pull me in check

00:11:46.240 but like you know

00:11:47.260 if you're fat

00:11:48.000 like I've been skinny

00:11:49.880 and I've been fat

00:11:50.720 and I've known

00:11:51.560 when I'm fat

00:11:51.980 I don't need anyone

00:11:52.540 to tell me that I'm fat

00:11:53.700 like I can see the numbers

00:11:54.540 on the scale

00:11:55.040 I can see where my clothes

00:11:56.220 don't fit like they used to

00:11:57.340 like you don't need someone

00:11:58.120 to tell you you're fat

00:11:58.620 I don't know

00:11:59.060 it's like

00:11:59.480 because every Christmas

00:12:00.380 at my grandma's house

00:12:01.740 I would just know

00:12:02.940 there's that one relative

00:12:04.160 that if I came back fatter

00:12:05.740 they would say something to me

00:12:07.260 and it kind of motivated me

00:12:08.960 every year

00:12:09.500 because I'm like

00:12:09.960 I don't want that aunt

00:12:10.880 to you know

00:12:11.420 but you know

00:12:12.000 you know if you're fat

00:12:13.240 like

00:12:13.640 and sometimes people

00:12:15.000 talk to fat people

00:12:15.700 like they're not self-aware

00:12:16.520 like they know

00:12:17.460 you know

00:12:18.020 I know when I'm overweight

00:12:19.200 I know

00:12:19.880 I've been in incredibly

00:12:20.880 good shape before

00:12:21.640 like I was in drama school

00:12:22.840 where I was working out

00:12:23.480 12 hours a day

00:12:24.280 but like now I'm not

00:12:25.680 and I'm fat

00:12:26.300 and I'm aware that I'm fat

00:12:27.120 I don't need anyone

00:12:27.440 to tell me that I'm fat

00:12:28.300 and bullying

00:12:29.460 like I mean

00:12:30.380 for me it doesn't really work

00:12:31.400 because I just phase it out

00:12:32.240 I mean I'm like

00:12:33.100 I've been online for a long time

00:12:34.360 so the things that people say

00:12:35.580 don't affect me

00:12:36.180 but for most people

00:12:37.500 bullying famously

00:12:38.900 does not work

00:12:40.020 like it doesn't make me

00:12:40.960 people feel good

00:12:41.520 it doesn't make them

00:12:42.300 work harder

00:12:43.280 I don't know

00:12:44.340 you guys are speaking

00:12:45.320 I don't know

00:12:45.920 what I have to say is

00:12:47.260 body positivity

00:12:48.840 is

00:12:50.000 to me

00:12:50.760 just really accepting

00:12:52.100 the way you look

00:12:53.860 and

00:12:54.660 for me

00:12:55.920 ain't gonna lie

00:12:57.100 I agree with

00:12:58.440 to some

00:12:59.040 I do agree with a lot

00:13:00.220 of what you're saying

00:13:01.040 and

00:13:01.460 but when you

00:13:02.740 when being overweight

00:13:04.520 has been an issue

00:13:05.560 your whole life

00:13:06.780 and then

00:13:08.040 people are also

00:13:09.180 people also make comments

00:13:10.700 as an adult

00:13:11.560 like

00:13:11.820 people have always

00:13:13.300 just targeted you

00:13:14.440 for that

00:13:14.900 and

00:13:15.860 to me

00:13:16.420 to be honest

00:13:17.000 it just scrambled

00:13:18.140 my head

00:13:18.880 and it wasn't

00:13:20.000 good for me

00:13:20.980 so body positivity

00:13:23.320 to me

00:13:24.540 is

00:13:25.520 basically

00:13:26.420 accepting the way

00:13:27.420 you look

00:13:27.840 and

00:13:28.260 to be honest

00:13:28.920 I hated

00:13:29.520 I wasn't happy

00:13:30.880 with my body

00:13:31.700 Pearl

00:13:32.240 I really wasn't

00:13:33.400 and

00:13:34.060 are you happy

00:13:34.960 with it now

00:13:35.520 I am

00:13:36.400 okay

00:13:36.780 firstly

00:13:37.780 I'm like

00:13:39.700 I am what I am

00:13:40.840 but I make

00:13:42.080 I make conscious

00:13:43.480 decisions

00:13:43.980 like to

00:13:44.640 eat healthy things

00:13:45.900 yeah

00:13:46.160 and I'm also

00:13:46.920 not gonna lie

00:13:47.540 and say

00:13:47.880 I'm the most

00:13:48.780 healthiest

00:13:49.540 because

00:13:50.280 what last week

00:13:51.200 you were saying

00:13:51.600 no no no

00:13:52.400 no no

00:13:53.160 no no

00:13:53.980 but

00:13:54.360 yeah but today

00:13:55.580 is about

00:13:56.260 we're here

00:13:57.120 in a room

00:13:57.600 with personal trainers

00:13:58.560 yeah

00:13:58.920 of course

00:14:00.200 I love

00:14:01.840 chicken and tits

00:14:02.960 and certain things

00:14:03.960 um

00:14:05.240 and I can't help it

00:14:06.680 we too

00:14:07.120 by moderation

00:14:07.780 no no

00:14:08.500 it's not about moderation

00:14:09.600 my weight

00:14:10.220 is old weight

00:14:11.080 but I actually

00:14:12.160 I get it

00:14:12.500 I can't have it in the house

00:14:13.620 otherwise I'll just eat

00:14:14.360 the whole box

00:14:14.780 whatever it is

00:14:15.480 I don't eat it in the house

00:14:16.620 my dad actually has cancer

00:14:18.580 so in my house

00:14:19.340 everything

00:14:20.020 there's no processed food

00:14:21.500 at all

00:14:22.000 and that's why

00:14:23.220 it's just literally

00:14:24.080 if you want to drink

00:14:25.080 you have to juice it yourself

00:14:27.200 if you want to get ice cream

00:14:28.520 you want to

00:14:28.920 you need to make it yourself

00:14:29.880 and it's full of

00:14:31.000 Vitacocos like boxes

00:14:32.380 so that's how it goes

00:14:34.660 and then

00:14:35.420 there's not even a microwave

00:14:36.540 at home as well

00:14:37.500 so I can't actually

00:14:38.900 heat my food

00:14:39.700 like everything

00:14:40.380 is basically

00:14:41.220 in the best way

00:14:42.140 that I can cook

00:14:43.560 and what about

00:14:44.720 the people out there

00:14:45.540 who are

00:14:46.020 maybe in a similar

00:14:46.900 situation to you

00:14:47.700 where they don't have

00:14:48.560 access to

00:14:49.540 processed or

00:14:50.600 unhealthy foods

00:14:51.680 at home

00:14:52.160 but they still seek

00:14:53.280 those things

00:14:53.780 when they're out

00:14:54.260 of the house

00:14:54.680 what would you say

00:14:55.920 to those people

00:14:56.680 who actively seek

00:14:58.060 unhealthy food

00:14:58.780 I'd say

00:15:01.280 my advice

00:15:02.360 honestly would be

00:15:03.480 you don't want

00:15:05.780 a heart attack

00:15:06.680 you don't want

00:15:07.640 to die early

00:15:08.400 you want to survive

00:15:10.540 you want to build

00:15:11.300 some memories

00:15:12.060 you want to be

00:15:12.760 a grandmother

00:15:13.300 or a grandpa

00:15:14.200 and it's important

00:15:15.980 to actually think

00:15:17.020 and that's what

00:15:17.900 I mean

00:15:18.180 you need to

00:15:18.800 but wouldn't that

00:15:20.140 be a better message

00:15:20.980 for the body

00:15:21.560 positivity movement

00:15:22.740 to say rather

00:15:23.580 than love yourself

00:15:24.520 100%

00:15:25.680 like what you just said

00:15:26.980 you could get

00:15:29.420 cancelled nowadays

00:15:30.300 for what

00:15:30.900 Sugar Puff

00:15:31.560 just said

00:15:31.960 because it's like

00:15:33.180 you know

00:15:33.440 if Lizzo

00:15:34.380 comes out and says

00:15:35.260 hey I want to

00:15:37.400 start losing weight

00:15:38.260 all the fans

00:15:39.100 start coming for her

00:15:40.080 and you know

00:15:41.480 she just wants

00:15:42.260 to better herself

00:15:42.800 and get healthy

00:15:43.360 it's like

00:15:43.620 if you're saying

00:15:44.640 oh you're going

00:15:45.460 to die soon

00:15:46.240 and you're getting

00:15:47.100 to her base

00:15:47.740 I don't think

00:15:48.500 it's like that

00:15:49.280 for me

00:15:49.920 it's literally

00:15:50.860 I am not delusional

00:15:52.140 with myself

00:15:52.980 I am big

00:15:54.300 I know I'm big

00:15:55.760 but at the end

00:15:56.680 of the day

00:15:57.380 I don't promote

00:15:58.780 the reason why

00:16:00.080 I'm for body

00:16:01.000 positivity

00:16:01.480 is because people

00:16:02.660 literally get mistreated

00:16:04.000 and I'm against that

00:16:05.860 and especially with

00:16:07.440 how do you

00:16:08.120 how do you think

00:16:08.700 that

00:16:08.920 how do you

00:16:09.380 how do you think

00:16:09.960 people get mistreated

00:16:10.860 well I was

00:16:13.720 28 stones

00:16:14.660 I was at my biggest

00:16:15.760 now I'm 21

00:16:17.660 and like I said

00:16:18.920 I've been eating healthy

00:16:19.860 and I've actually

00:16:20.700 actively been trying

00:16:22.720 yes I'm not on it

00:16:24.400 with the exercise

00:16:25.580 but you are

00:16:26.780 we could be

00:16:27.180 remember

00:16:27.660 yes we could

00:16:28.660 we could

00:16:29.420 I actually want muscles

00:16:31.320 you know

00:16:31.820 I actually do want muscles

00:16:32.940 but that's why

00:16:34.400 body positivity

00:16:35.160 is important

00:16:36.140 the representation

00:16:36.880 is important

00:16:38.360 now I understand

00:16:39.640 but what about

00:16:40.440 like smoking

00:16:41.280 smoking

00:16:42.300 like what if we

00:16:43.340 wanted to normalize

00:16:44.160 smoking

00:16:44.620 and put smoking

00:16:45.480 on the covers

00:16:46.060 at the end of the day

00:16:46.740 smoking is literally

00:16:48.100 it's a different method

00:16:50.540 smoking is

00:16:51.320 that's what smoking is

00:16:54.600 and eating

00:16:55.580 is you're using

00:16:56.720 your mouth

00:16:57.340 you're using

00:16:58.160 your teeth

00:16:59.000 and your taste buds

00:17:00.580 are working

00:17:01.120 with smoking

00:17:01.740 it's just

00:17:02.160 well my point

00:17:03.600 smoking is like

00:17:03.940 normalizing something

00:17:04.980 that's

00:17:05.360 I would say

00:17:06.000 obesity

00:17:06.380 it's an ill

00:17:07.900 I mean

00:17:08.200 I don't know

00:17:08.700 if I'd go as far

00:17:09.280 to say illness

00:17:09.940 I don't even think

00:17:11.320 it's about normalizing

00:17:12.240 people

00:17:12.740 just need to gain

00:17:14.520 some respect

00:17:15.360 and know that

00:17:16.580 people are individuals

00:17:17.700 now

00:17:18.360 if you really want

00:17:20.000 to make an active

00:17:20.740 difference

00:17:21.220 if you guys really

00:17:22.020 want to make an active

00:17:22.760 difference

00:17:23.100 when you see a big

00:17:23.960 person

00:17:24.300 you'd be like

00:17:25.160 come on man

00:17:25.880 let's run

00:17:26.820 or let's play a game

00:17:27.920 or let's do something

00:17:28.820 like actively make a difference

00:17:30.180 I would challenge you

00:17:31.680 as well

00:17:32.140 to find me

00:17:32.800 like a body positivity

00:17:33.600 movement

00:17:33.940 that's like

00:17:34.380 eat junk

00:17:35.260 do whatever you want

00:17:36.400 that's not what it is

00:17:37.980 it's not promoting

00:17:39.220 unhealthy eating

00:17:39.960 no I see girls

00:17:40.800 do it all the time

00:17:41.560 they do what I eat

00:17:42.600 in a day

00:17:42.900 I just reacted to one

00:17:44.020 the other day

00:17:44.580 it was like

00:17:45.020 oh my gosh

00:17:46.500 yes

00:17:46.920 that's a lot of eating

00:17:47.580 yes it's like

00:17:48.260 I counted

00:17:49.020 4,500 calories

00:17:51.080 what

00:17:51.420 that's what I said

00:17:53.120 4,500 calories

00:17:55.140 in a day

00:17:55.680 they do like

00:17:56.200 this is what I ate

00:17:56.840 today as a fat person

00:17:58.080 I think

00:17:58.500 this is what

00:17:58.960 yeah I'm against that

00:18:00.380 and I'm like

00:18:01.120 to me that's like

00:18:01.940 this is how I smoked

00:18:03.480 right

00:18:03.740 I don't think

00:18:04.620 we should normalize it

00:18:05.740 with that

00:18:06.340 like for me personally

00:18:07.640 I would never show

00:18:08.620 that

00:18:09.960 because I don't want

00:18:11.140 to promote unhealthy things

00:18:12.080 in the same way

00:18:12.620 that if I smoked or vaped

00:18:13.800 I wouldn't show me

00:18:14.500 smoking or vaping

00:18:15.360 on my page

00:18:16.600 because it's not something

00:18:17.460 that I would be proud of

00:18:18.380 you know

00:18:18.760 but like

00:18:20.100 I wouldn't support that

00:18:21.820 and I wouldn't call that

00:18:22.660 the body positive movement

00:18:23.540 for what it means to me

00:18:24.920 is people just accepting

00:18:26.560 themselves for who they are

00:18:27.480 wanting the best

00:18:28.660 to themselves

00:18:29.100 and I don't think

00:18:30.340 there's anything wrong

00:18:30.960 with that

00:18:31.280 whether you're fat

00:18:31.980 whether you're skinny

00:18:32.620 whether you're anorexic

00:18:33.280 I think that the body

00:18:34.300 positivity movement

00:18:35.060 applies to you

00:18:35.740 I think it's just

00:18:36.280 enjoying who you are

00:18:37.640 and not letting that hold

00:18:38.560 if I thought too much

00:18:39.540 about what I look

00:18:40.060 in a bikini

00:18:40.400 I would never wear one

00:18:41.260 you know

00:18:41.780 but I don't care

00:18:42.460 so I just wear one

00:18:43.200 and I enjoy how I feel

00:18:44.140 instead of how I look

00:18:45.020 from modesty

00:18:45.800 you know what I mean

00:18:46.560 yeah

00:18:46.920 but I mean

00:18:47.700 you can have a modest bikini

00:18:49.200 well

00:18:49.580 can I tell you

00:18:52.340 what's wrong

00:18:52.720 with the world

00:18:53.840 I'll see what's wrong

00:18:55.320 with the world

00:18:55.940 big statement

00:18:56.500 no that is a big statement

00:18:58.800 you can tell us

00:18:59.420 no I take that back

00:19:00.960 go ahead

00:19:01.320 go ahead

00:19:01.960 it's a pod

00:19:03.140 you can talk shit

00:19:03.880 on a pod

00:19:04.400 it's a pod

00:19:05.240 this is what we're here to do

00:19:06.240 come on

00:19:06.840 everyone has an issue

00:19:09.700 with everyone

00:19:10.640 everyone is like

00:19:12.260 no they should be like this

00:19:13.500 they should be like that

00:19:14.660 everyone just needs

00:19:15.560 to simply mind

00:19:16.480 their own business

00:19:17.200 and when I say that

00:19:18.620 I don't mean in a bad way

00:19:20.060 it's like for example

00:19:21.660 he like

00:19:22.480 you said

00:19:23.460 I don't know if you said it

00:19:24.680 did you say fat shaming works

00:19:26.280 is that what

00:19:26.820 yeah okay

00:19:27.380 so for example

00:19:28.340 fat shaming

00:19:28.960 now

00:19:29.300 imagine an unhealthy person

00:19:31.300 like me

00:19:31.960 and I mean

00:19:33.100 I try and be healthy

00:19:34.080 yes but

00:19:34.680 it is what it is

00:19:35.640 and I'm body positive

00:19:36.780 because I

00:19:37.520 honestly

00:19:38.380 I've learned to love my body now

00:19:40.100 Pearl

00:19:40.560 and I'm sticking with that

00:19:42.220 but if I can lose weight

00:19:43.240 I would as well

00:19:44.000 so

00:19:44.360 no

00:19:45.620 no

00:19:46.880 no

00:19:47.400 it's body positivity

00:19:48.720 no no

00:19:49.680 body positivity

00:19:50.960 is all about

00:19:52.380 just accepting

00:19:53.340 the way you look

00:19:54.180 and being happy

00:19:55.120 and actually

00:19:56.480 just be like

00:19:57.620 yeah this is how I look

00:19:58.380 I think we should always be trying to get better

00:20:00.360 no yes we can get better

00:20:01.740 we should always be trying to improve

00:20:02.900 we can get better

00:20:03.720 but Sugar Puff

00:20:04.540 it doesn't mean

00:20:05.320 we can't be fly

00:20:06.380 and look hot

00:20:07.260 and press ourselves

00:20:08.540 I was just to your point though

00:20:10.400 Sugar Puff

00:20:11.060 right

00:20:11.600 you said what's wrong with the world

00:20:13.040 people are saying

00:20:13.720 you should live this way

00:20:14.560 you should live this way

00:20:15.180 but it's not

00:20:16.220 it's say it's the body positivity movement

00:20:17.980 saying hey

00:20:18.660 we should be comfortable

00:20:19.780 as this

00:20:20.980 where realistically

00:20:22.400 what if that's killing you

00:20:23.480 and then to your point as well

00:20:24.800 what Pearl's saying

00:20:26.140 if it's like smoking

00:20:27.180 smoking's an addiction

00:20:28.340 you brought up comfort eating

00:20:30.240 and that's how people cope

00:20:31.340 that's an addiction

00:20:32.080 so it's

00:20:33.880 you can treat it the same as smoking

00:20:35.480 we're going to promote smoking

00:20:36.500 as it's all

00:20:37.560 it's all sweet

00:20:38.260 you know

00:20:38.600 if you're comfortable smoking

00:20:39.640 and you're happy smoking

00:20:40.380 keep doing it

00:20:41.520 we're not saying

00:20:42.640 you should live that way

00:20:43.500 we're just saying

00:20:44.060 not even we

00:20:44.860 it's not even we

00:20:45.280 just I think

00:20:45.800 rational people are saying

00:20:47.540 if you're going to keep going down that route

00:20:49.640 you're probably going to die

00:20:50.900 you're going to lower your life expectancy

00:20:52.100 that's not

00:20:52.680 okay

00:20:53.000 so imagine

00:20:54.460 that's just the truth

00:20:55.180 imagine look

00:20:55.820 you're a fit person

00:20:57.120 you're fit

00:20:57.800 you exercise

00:20:58.480 I can see that

00:20:59.300 you take care of yourself

00:21:00.500 and that

00:21:01.000 now imagine yeah

00:21:02.900 there's a big person

00:21:04.840 and they're already kind of suffering

00:21:06.900 we know they're unhealthy

00:21:07.960 they're suffering

00:21:08.740 they've got knee problems

00:21:10.460 they've got all sorts

00:21:11.940 and now

00:21:12.900 they ain't even

00:21:14.160 they're not even surviving

00:21:15.240 like they're finding it hard

00:21:16.380 and I'm talking about

00:21:17.020 an unhealthy

00:21:17.780 big person

00:21:18.660 and now

00:21:19.480 you're saying

00:21:20.060 oh

00:21:20.680 you're fat

00:21:22.200 ha ha ha

00:21:23.280 blah blah blah

00:21:24.340 never do that

00:21:25.000 who does that

00:21:26.620 people do

00:21:27.620 and that's what I've faced

00:21:28.820 I have faced that

00:21:30.420 Pearl

00:21:30.700 that's the sad thing

00:21:31.480 I've faced it

00:21:32.200 so when you

00:21:33.480 I'm sorry

00:21:34.180 obviously you may not do that

00:21:35.500 but people do that

00:21:36.640 I'd like to hear from the PT

00:21:37.680 I want to see how you respond to this

00:21:39.700 I have a cousin

00:21:41.400 from Trinidad

00:21:42.000 two weeks ago

00:21:43.140 that died

00:21:44.120 from a cardiac arrest

00:21:45.960 due to

00:21:46.980 obesity

00:21:48.400 now

00:21:50.200 she was one of the most

00:21:51.680 comfortable

00:21:52.280 in asking

00:21:53.280 happiest person

00:21:54.720 make everyone laugh

00:21:57.060 type of person

00:21:58.020 and

00:21:59.360 she was definitely

00:22:00.460 unbothered with this entire world

00:22:02.280 would you call that

00:22:03.700 body positivity

00:22:04.460 that's very sad

00:22:06.120 and I'm sorry for your loss

00:22:07.420 no I don't think that

00:22:09.940 what you've just said

00:22:10.820 relates to body positivity

00:22:12.000 I think that's incredibly

00:22:14.220 unfortunate what's happened

00:22:15.160 but like

00:22:16.000 do I think that

00:22:17.020 if people had been

00:22:17.920 harsher on her

00:22:18.600 she would have lost the weight

00:22:19.420 no

00:22:19.760 I don't

00:22:21.060 you know

00:22:21.420 I don't think that's how it works

00:22:22.700 I don't think being mean to people

00:22:23.820 makes them lose weight

00:22:24.640 yeah but

00:22:25.720 talking about body positivity

00:22:27.220 does it help

00:22:30.300 does talking to you

00:22:32.920 nice help

00:22:33.500 yeah

00:22:34.420 I think it does

00:22:35.200 I think telling people

00:22:36.360 to be kind to themselves

00:22:37.720 goes a long way

00:22:38.480 I think it just makes you

00:22:39.660 comfortable to do the same thing

00:22:41.100 it's insanity

00:22:41.960 no but at the same time

00:22:42.700 it's a habit

00:22:43.080 it depends on what type of person

00:22:45.180 you are

00:22:45.560 so depending on

00:22:47.060 what makes you tick

00:22:48.200 you know what I'm saying

00:22:49.000 so some people

00:22:49.780 might respond to body shaming

00:22:51.400 whereas other people

00:22:52.860 might like

00:22:54.060 respond to

00:22:54.940 a different type of method

00:22:56.160 you know

00:22:56.480 wait if it helped

00:22:57.740 wouldn't you see

00:22:58.440 most of these influencers

00:22:59.480 lose weight

00:23:00.240 I mean I am an influencer

00:23:01.960 and I'm actively

00:23:02.980 trying to lose weight

00:23:03.520 and I've documented it

00:23:04.480 on my platform

00:23:05.820 and I've said how

00:23:06.720 I've struggled with it

00:23:07.560 like I find it

00:23:08.180 really difficult

00:23:08.960 what part of it

00:23:10.180 do you struggle with

00:23:10.780 though

00:23:10.940 for me

00:23:12.180 like I

00:23:12.660 so I have a lot

00:23:14.020 of problems

00:23:14.340 related to

00:23:15.020 when I used to be

00:23:15.980 quite thin

00:23:16.440 I was very very unhealthy

00:23:17.620 and it meant that

00:23:19.400 when I was thin

00:23:20.400 I went to

00:23:22.120 a

00:23:22.640 so when I was like

00:23:23.560 doing acting and stuff

00:23:24.340 I was in a theatre company

00:23:25.400 where they would write

00:23:26.140 all our weights

00:23:26.700 on the wall

00:23:27.260 and it was always

00:23:28.220 like the goal

00:23:28.760 not to be the biggest person

00:23:29.800 and everyone was skinny

00:23:30.540 right

00:23:30.860 so I have a lot

00:23:31.900 of problems around that

00:23:32.600 around weight

00:23:33.160 around weighing myself

00:23:34.600 obsessively

00:23:35.300 and because of that

00:23:38.060 like I would just

00:23:38.640 restrict and binge

00:23:39.480 and restrict and binge

00:23:40.360 and restrict and binge

00:23:41.240 which at the time

00:23:42.880 I was making myself sick

00:23:44.180 so I stayed skinny

00:23:45.200 and then when I stopped

00:23:46.380 throwing up

00:23:46.940 I got very fat

00:23:47.860 because I didn't break

00:23:49.360 the patterns

00:23:50.160 but I still had the

00:23:51.080 eating disorder

00:23:51.660 of the restrict and binge

00:23:52.580 and restrict and binge

00:23:53.280 restrict and binge

00:23:53.880 so when I stopped

00:23:54.660 throwing up

00:23:55.100 I just gained all the weight

00:23:56.120 and that's still

00:23:57.480 something I struggle with

00:23:58.260 like I restrict

00:23:58.820 and restrict and restrict

00:23:59.500 and I feel very in control

00:24:00.860 when I restrict

00:24:01.500 but then I will binge

00:24:03.940 when I've had a vulnerable

00:24:04.720 moment or I've had

00:24:05.480 an argument with my boyfriend

00:24:06.380 or something in my life

00:24:07.660 has gone wrong

00:24:08.360 and I struggle with that

00:24:09.740 but I think the point

00:24:10.560 is that across the board

00:24:11.980 I don't see plus size

00:24:13.280 influencers that have

00:24:14.660 built their brand

00:24:15.380 on body positivity

00:24:16.360 losing weight

00:24:17.260 across the board

00:24:18.040 if anything

00:24:19.180 I see them get fatter

00:24:20.320 and I see them drop dead

00:24:21.580 in their like mid 30s

00:24:22.680 to 40s

00:24:23.240 because they're getting

00:24:23.540 rewarded

00:24:23.960 you're getting paid

00:24:24.780 to be a plus size model

00:24:25.840 like your example

00:24:26.940 why would you want

00:24:28.260 to lose weight

00:24:28.840 if you're getting paid

00:24:29.820 to be in a plus size ad

00:24:30.960 yeah but I

00:24:31.940 I know for me

00:24:33.900 if I'm plus size

00:24:35.460 I'm plus size

00:24:36.200 and sorry

00:24:38.200 what was I going to say

00:24:40.100 sorry

00:24:40.360 it just went out of

00:24:41.200 went out of my mouth

00:24:43.340 I'm sorry guys

00:24:44.100 I would say

00:24:44.660 that there's also

00:24:45.220 a difference between

00:24:46.020 like I'm a plus size model

00:24:47.340 if you lose weight

00:24:48.220 are you still going to

00:24:49.260 get plus size jobs

00:24:50.240 so in terms of modelling

00:24:51.980 yes

00:24:53.080 but right now

00:24:54.420 I would say

00:24:55.000 I'm at a weight

00:24:55.680 where I feel

00:24:56.520 I feel unhealthy

00:24:57.480 I can still be

00:24:58.800 like overweight

00:25:00.340 and feel healthy

00:25:01.400 I could still qualify

00:25:02.320 for plus size jobs

00:25:03.100 based on my height

00:25:04.280 and things like that

00:25:04.860 because I'm shorter

00:25:05.660 and curvier

00:25:06.500 I'll still qualify

00:25:07.520 and I still worked

00:25:08.220 in plus size

00:25:08.720 when I was technically

00:25:09.660 like a healthy weight

00:25:10.840 on paper

00:25:11.420 I was still plus size

00:25:12.320 because I had big boobs

00:25:13.480 a big bum

00:25:14.080 and I was short

00:25:15.580 and that's sort of

00:25:16.440 what qualifies you

00:25:17.060 for plus size modelling

00:25:17.620 so I did still work

00:25:18.540 in that then

00:25:19.160 I've changed agencies

00:25:20.500 when I've

00:25:21.100 gained a lost weight

00:25:21.900 if you were 120 pounds

00:25:23.340 would you still get

00:25:24.020 plus size modelling gigs

00:25:25.240 no

00:25:25.660 but I'd still be an influencer

00:25:26.840 and I'd still be very likeable

00:25:28.040 and I think people

00:25:28.640 would still follow my content

00:25:29.500 but we're just asking

00:25:30.400 about the plus size

00:25:31.220 it's a hustle

00:25:31.760 you're likeable

00:25:33.400 you can do well

00:25:34.020 but you don't just

00:25:34.360 build yourself

00:25:35.000 just on

00:25:35.520 nobody follows someone

00:25:36.400 just because they're like

00:25:36.900 oh this is a fat person

00:25:37.780 I'm going to follow them

00:25:38.480 like nobody's following

00:25:39.300 Tess Holliday

00:25:39.900 just because

00:25:40.660 I mean apart from

00:25:41.240 the fetish people

00:25:41.700 she wouldn't be famous

00:25:43.380 if she wasn't fat

00:25:44.400 but you're influencer

00:25:46.000 I mean it's influencer

00:25:47.020 right

00:25:47.360 so people follow you

00:25:48.440 because

00:25:48.960 why

00:25:50.200 I agree

00:25:52.800 I would say that

00:25:53.700 being overweight

00:25:55.020 being obese

00:25:55.580 being fat

00:25:56.060 is often times a hustle

00:25:57.140 it can be

00:25:58.860 a brand

00:25:59.620 it can be your identity

00:26:00.580 just like being a PT

00:26:01.680 can be your identity

00:26:02.640 one is

00:26:03.560 better than the other

00:26:05.580 it's better for the individual

00:26:06.740 at the end of the day

00:26:08.100 in this economy

00:26:09.640 they both make money

00:26:10.760 unfortunately

00:26:11.640 and I would agree

00:26:13.520 that being obese

00:26:14.520 is often times

00:26:15.240 incentivised

00:26:15.940 especially if we're talking

00:26:16.740 about being an influencer

00:26:18.320 like the

00:26:20.040 the video that you mentioned

00:26:21.440 Pearl about

00:26:22.100 sort of someone

00:26:23.260 who is plus size

00:26:23.940 doing a what I eat

00:26:24.840 in a day

00:26:25.240 it would be very easy

00:26:26.680 for a person like that

00:26:27.620 to secure a brand deal

00:26:28.980 and start advertising

00:26:30.500 I don't know

00:26:31.100 like corn

00:26:31.800 vegetarian sausages

00:26:32.800 and they add that in

00:26:34.220 and say

00:26:34.520 it's vegetarian

00:26:35.340 so it's fine

00:26:36.000 it's healthy

00:26:37.100 I'm not eating meat

00:26:37.940 but then they still eat

00:26:39.480 like a six pack of donuts

00:26:40.740 in a day

00:26:41.140 so I think

00:26:42.540 what we're talking about

00:26:43.560 if we're talking about

00:26:44.340 obesity being incentivised

00:26:46.240 economically

00:26:47.760 we're then talking about

00:26:49.320 essentially hustle culture

00:26:51.640 and it is a hustle

00:26:53.000 it's just an opening

00:26:53.760 for a company

00:26:54.380 to make more money

00:26:55.140 you know

00:26:55.380 it's simple as that

00:26:56.200 I would actually argue

00:26:57.620 with that

00:26:58.800 on saying

00:26:59.340 when I made a video

00:27:00.320 saying I was going to

00:27:01.160 lose weight

00:27:01.720 and it went viral

00:27:02.820 because I made

00:27:03.520 I made a video

00:27:04.080 that was embarrassing

00:27:04.680 and I said

00:27:05.080 I couldn't get down a slide

00:27:06.080 and I was really embarrassed

00:27:06.700 and I wanted to lose weight

00:27:07.400 and that did really well

00:27:08.860 in the algorithm

00:27:09.360 and I got so many sponsorships

00:27:12.560 and companies

00:27:13.140 emailing me

00:27:13.800 with their weight loss products

00:27:14.900 because that is a huge industry

00:27:17.240 and I think that's far bigger

00:27:18.240 than any body positivity

00:27:19.200 or any industry

00:27:20.180 like the weight loss industry

00:27:20.980 is the huge thing

00:27:22.020 I instantly had people

00:27:23.080 being like

00:27:23.460 take our lollies

00:27:24.220 take our diet drinks

00:27:25.080 take this

00:27:25.460 take that

00:27:25.920 show it in your TikTok

00:27:26.780 yeah

00:27:27.380 I think weight loss

00:27:28.180 is a bigger industry

00:27:28.960 than people being like

00:27:30.240 I'm plus size

00:27:30.760 and it's cool

00:27:31.300 would you rather

00:27:33.460 take weight loss products

00:27:35.480 or stay as a plus size model

00:27:36.980 I mean

00:27:38.520 I don't think

00:27:38.880 the weight loss products work

00:27:39.740 I don't think

00:27:40.100 those lollipops

00:27:40.860 and

00:27:41.120 I mean

00:27:41.620 calorie deficit works

00:27:42.880 yeah

00:27:43.140 calorie deficit works

00:27:44.620 it sucks

00:27:45.300 but it works

00:27:46.080 like

00:27:46.520 but I

00:27:48.020 again

00:27:48.340 I've said

00:27:48.780 like

00:27:48.960 I struggle

00:27:49.320 if I could press a button

00:27:50.100 and just be a healthy weight

00:27:51.060 and not struggle

00:27:52.060 you know

00:27:52.740 if

00:27:53.180 one is both detrimental to you

00:27:55.700 which would you rather

00:27:57.000 not eating

00:27:57.940 and

00:27:58.760 you know

00:27:59.220 maybe having the products

00:28:00.380 that are

00:28:00.780 forcing you into a calorie deficit

00:28:02.360 or staying at an unhealthy weight

00:28:03.860 what are you taking

00:28:04.860 I mean

00:28:05.340 I've already said

00:28:06.300 like

00:28:06.440 if I could press a button

00:28:07.220 and be a healthy weight

00:28:07.900 and have a healthy relationship

00:28:08.680 with food

00:28:09.060 I would press it

00:28:09.620 but that's just not the reality

00:28:10.760 for me

00:28:11.160 and a lot of other people

00:28:12.040 and for me

00:28:12.760 it's been a grind

00:28:13.540 and like I have been losing weight

00:28:14.740 but it's hard

00:28:15.860 what's the solution

00:28:16.840 like what's the

00:28:17.580 okay you say for

00:28:18.660 it's a grind for a lot of people

00:28:19.880 but what is the actual solution

00:28:21.280 of losing weight

00:28:22.400 for me

00:28:22.660 I think the solution

00:28:23.920 is telling people

00:28:24.660 to like themselves

00:28:25.660 to do the best thing

00:28:26.960 for themselves

00:28:27.640 and not hate themselves

00:28:28.560 in the process

00:28:29.160 I would say

00:28:29.860 I would say

00:28:31.000 and being active

00:28:32.060 and like I said

00:28:33.860 it's about body positivity

00:28:35.380 is literally accepting

00:28:36.760 the way you are

00:28:37.460 if I'm plus size

00:28:38.560 I'm plus size

00:28:39.160 and that's why

00:28:39.900 I tell people

00:28:41.060 accept the way you look

00:28:42.960 be happy

00:28:43.720 you are the way you are

00:28:45.280 and you should

00:28:46.380 really embrace

00:28:47.220 the way you are

00:28:48.020 because when you're not

00:28:49.000 happy with yourself

00:28:49.960 you don't

00:28:51.160 it affects you in work

00:28:52.460 you don't have

00:28:53.180 no confidence

00:28:53.840 no self esteem

00:28:55.080 and

00:28:55.640 yeah

00:28:56.320 you should be able

00:28:57.280 to do anything

00:28:57.920 just be

00:28:58.520 and body positivity

00:28:59.620 again I'm going to say

00:29:00.820 again

00:29:01.220 it's literally accepting

00:29:02.720 the way you look

00:29:04.020 let me get a little bit

00:29:04.760 deep with it

00:29:05.240 if someone was to

00:29:05.980 die from obesity

00:29:06.720 what would you tell

00:29:07.420 that person

00:29:07.900 honestly

00:29:09.860 I'd say

00:29:10.940 do you know what

00:29:11.720 you should have

00:29:12.240 eaten healthy

00:29:12.900 and you should have

00:29:13.480 exercised

00:29:13.920 you need a risk

00:29:14.640 of being big

00:29:15.260 I'm not telling

00:29:17.320 anyone to be big

00:29:18.360 but I think the point

00:29:19.220 is like the most

00:29:20.160 common theme I've heard

00:29:21.240 is just accept

00:29:22.500 how you are

00:29:23.280 wait wait wait

00:29:24.720 so this is the most

00:29:25.600 common thing I've heard

00:29:26.660 would you guys agree

00:29:27.340 just accept how you are

00:29:28.380 like to like yourself

00:29:29.720 to like the way

00:29:30.920 to like yourself

00:29:32.060 accept how you are

00:29:33.620 don't hate yourself

00:29:35.200 for being fat

00:29:36.100 Pearl bear in mind

00:29:37.340 we're not trying to

00:29:38.500 promote

00:29:38.780 well I'm not trying

00:29:39.640 to promote

00:29:40.020 unhealthiness

00:29:41.000 if you watch my

00:29:41.760 TikToks and my

00:29:42.800 Instagram

00:29:43.020 I'm dancing

00:29:44.100 I'm active

00:29:45.160 even on my stories

00:29:46.480 I'm always promoting good

00:29:47.780 if you're overweight

00:29:48.600 and you accept that

00:29:50.280 then you're accepting

00:29:52.340 like a higher risk

00:29:53.740 for diabetes

00:29:54.580 you're accepting

00:29:55.380 a higher risk

00:29:56.200 for early death

00:29:57.000 you're accepting

00:29:57.920 a higher risk

00:29:58.840 for a heart attack

00:29:59.640 I'm going to explain

00:30:00.260 something

00:30:00.680 like you have

00:30:01.320 all these health risks

00:30:02.300 so for example

00:30:03.020 and the thing is

00:30:04.200 like your

00:30:04.780 wait wait wait

00:30:06.200 and the thing is

00:30:07.760 like your families

00:30:08.520 are the ones

00:30:09.340 that are going to

00:30:09.700 have to take care of you

00:30:10.800 if you can't take care

00:30:11.920 of yourself

00:30:12.320 if you get too big

00:30:13.420 so like then

00:30:14.820 it's not just your problem

00:30:15.940 it becomes other

00:30:16.640 people's problems

00:30:17.620 more comfortable

00:30:18.480 to get the less

00:30:19.180 your checking numbers

00:30:19.940 as well

00:30:20.360 I feel like people

00:30:22.000 who are comfortable

00:30:22.480 in their obesity

00:30:23.420 don't even check

00:30:24.680 and the one thing

00:30:25.660 I don't like

00:30:26.180 is like

00:30:26.600 they'll say

00:30:27.220 it's like unhealthy

00:30:28.100 to weigh yourself

00:30:28.920 every day

00:30:29.500 when I lost weight

00:30:31.000 by weighing myself

00:30:31.740 every day

00:30:32.300 and I don't think

00:30:33.260 that's like

00:30:33.680 they did studies

00:30:34.460 and they found

00:30:35.020 that the people

00:30:35.620 they didn't give them

00:30:36.560 a diet or anything

00:30:37.420 but the people

00:30:37.960 that would just

00:30:38.380 weighed themselves

00:30:39.040 every single day

00:30:40.080 lost the most weight

00:30:41.240 yeah

00:30:41.860 it's just a journey

00:30:43.900 like for me

00:30:44.640 it's honestly a journey

00:30:45.820 and that's why

00:30:47.260 I just promote

00:30:48.560 you know

00:30:48.860 because I know

00:30:49.720 confidence is such

00:30:51.140 a big thing

00:30:51.960 that's why I promote

00:30:53.600 like body positivity

00:30:55.100 and it's not about obesity

00:30:56.420 it's just about

00:30:57.680 literally

00:30:58.040 I think

00:30:58.700 I think it does

00:30:59.420 become about obesity

00:31:00.460 when it's like

00:31:01.200 we're putting on

00:31:01.880 it's like okay

00:31:02.760 if an OnlyFans model

00:31:03.980 puts on a thong

00:31:05.040 and puts that on

00:31:06.140 and says I'm not

00:31:06.720 promoting sexuality

00:31:07.900 well you kind of are

00:31:09.260 and so if you're

00:31:10.120 if you're overweight

00:31:11.020 and you're putting

00:31:12.020 your body out there

00:31:13.540 it's like you are

00:31:14.120 promoting

00:31:14.580 let me ask you a question

00:31:15.380 Sugar Puff

00:31:15.980 I'm going to pause you there

00:31:16.680 so in the kindest way

00:31:19.460 so if someone is big

00:31:22.160 are you saying

00:31:22.900 that they then

00:31:23.760 do not deserve

00:31:25.240 to be heard or seen

00:31:26.400 because they are big

00:31:27.260 no I didn't say that

00:31:28.860 but are they leading

00:31:30.460 with their weight

00:31:31.040 so I would say

00:31:31.860 I would say

00:31:32.560 if you're leading

00:31:33.200 with your body

00:31:34.180 then yes

00:31:34.880 you are leading

00:31:35.360 with your weight

00:31:35.880 and how does someone

00:31:36.640 so let's take Lizzo

00:31:37.660 for example

00:31:38.120 because she's like

00:31:39.120 right in the center

00:31:40.160 of this topic

00:31:40.800 that is the example

00:31:42.480 we like to you

00:31:43.540 yeah

00:31:43.820 we love a little Lizzo

00:31:44.860 yes

00:31:45.360 so Lizzo

00:31:46.440 great music though

00:31:47.600 great music

00:31:48.260 decent music

00:31:49.300 not a Lizzo fan

00:31:51.880 well do you know what

00:31:52.780 I've never heard

00:31:53.220 one of her songs

00:31:53.780 because her music

00:31:54.960 doesn't appeal to me

00:31:55.700 but I know that

00:31:56.480 she's right in the center

00:31:57.480 of body positivity

00:31:58.660 her music notwithstanding

00:32:00.740 so let's take Lizzo

00:32:02.720 for example

00:32:03.120 a lot of people

00:32:03.740 slate her

00:32:04.180 because she

00:32:05.200 apparently leads

00:32:06.340 with her weight

00:32:06.780 she wears revealing clothing

00:32:08.020 and I've seen

00:32:09.360 on the other end

00:32:10.320 of that argument

00:32:10.940 you've got people

00:32:12.240 who compare her

00:32:12.940 to say Rihanna

00:32:14.380 or Beyonce

00:32:14.960 they wear similar clothing

00:32:16.300 but their shape

00:32:17.200 is very different

00:32:17.860 I would argue

00:32:19.260 that Lizzo

00:32:20.120 A is actually

00:32:21.480 potentially quite fit

00:32:22.380 because she performs

00:32:23.260 for long periods

00:32:23.940 of time

00:32:24.540 which she

00:32:25.420 maybe not fit

00:32:26.180 maybe fit

00:32:26.660 is the wrong word

00:32:27.260 so I would say

00:32:33.140 that A

00:32:33.680 she maybe

00:32:34.860 has a lot of stamina

00:32:35.740 because she performs

00:32:36.560 for a long period

00:32:37.620 of time

00:32:38.020 I think she plays

00:32:38.840 the flute sometimes

00:32:39.600 when she performs

00:32:40.340 and she dances

00:32:41.040 and she sings

00:32:41.940 that's a lot to do

00:32:43.080 in let's say

00:32:43.640 90 minutes

00:32:44.260 all at the same time

00:32:45.420 there's a lot

00:32:45.680 going on there

00:32:46.200 so I applaud

00:32:46.860 her stamina

00:32:47.340 also I could never

00:32:48.980 be a Walmart Lizzo

00:32:49.840 at all

00:32:50.780 so I would say

00:32:53.540 that with Lizzo

00:32:54.720 being at the center

00:32:55.440 of the body positivity

00:32:56.580 discussion

00:32:58.320 we should probably

00:32:59.720 look at her stamina

00:33:00.620 A

00:33:01.160 B we should say

00:33:02.260 that is she leading

00:33:03.580 with her weight

00:33:04.060 or does she just exist

00:33:05.120 as a fat person

00:33:05.900 who's on stage

00:33:06.740 because of her career choice

00:33:07.760 I would say

00:33:08.260 Adele did not lead

00:33:09.380 with her weight

00:33:09.960 nobody really commented

00:33:11.340 on Adele's weight

00:33:12.300 on Adele's weight

00:33:14.000 because she did not lead

00:33:15.320 with that

00:33:15.620 she led with her talent

00:33:16.600 if you looked at her Instagram

00:33:17.700 it was her

00:33:18.360 in long beautiful dresses

00:33:20.160 singing

00:33:20.560 no one really talked

00:33:21.480 about it

00:33:21.840 until she lost weight

00:33:23.100 on the other hand

00:33:24.280 Lizzo

00:33:24.740 if you look at her Instagram

00:33:25.980 it damn near

00:33:26.740 looks like corn

00:33:27.560 like it's her

00:33:28.980 in thong bikini

00:33:29.940 she wore a thong

00:33:30.900 thing to a basketball

00:33:33.240 game with kids at it

00:33:34.600 in the name of

00:33:35.580 body positivity

00:33:36.520 that's what we mean

00:33:37.960 Kelly Clarkson

00:33:39.520 right

00:33:39.720 I think people

00:33:40.300 people may have

00:33:41.040 commented on it

00:33:41.740 because she didn't

00:33:42.160 gain a lot of weight

00:33:43.000 people will comment

00:33:44.400 but it's not

00:33:45.740 the main topic

00:33:46.600 of discussion

00:33:47.320 Kelly Clarkson

00:33:48.160 because she leads

00:33:49.600 with her talent

00:33:50.520 so you think

00:33:51.980 Lizzo

00:33:52.520 dressing the way

00:33:53.440 she dresses

00:33:53.900 let's say

00:33:54.800 on stage

00:33:55.400 I don't agree

00:33:56.260 with that

00:33:56.480 the same way

00:33:56.840 I would say

00:33:57.400 an OnlyFans model

00:33:58.740 leads with her sexuality

00:34:00.060 like a girl

00:34:02.020 that's on OnlyFans

00:34:03.020 and her Instagram

00:34:04.040 looks like a corn hub

00:34:05.440 basically

00:34:06.020 she is leading

00:34:06.920 with her sexuality

00:34:07.860 how would you have

00:34:08.420 Lizzo dress

00:34:08.940 to not lead

00:34:09.600 with her body

00:34:10.100 and that's an open question

00:34:12.280 I would say

00:34:13.360 the thong thingies

00:34:15.520 it's like a

00:34:16.100 I would say

00:34:17.440 the all

00:34:18.300 I would say

00:34:18.760 basically

00:34:19.140 change her whole wardrobe

00:34:20.280 look at

00:34:21.680 I don't know

00:34:22.640 what Adele used to wear

00:34:24.260 if you look at

00:34:24.680 any girl at a festival

00:34:25.720 nowadays

00:34:26.220 very revealing clothing

00:34:27.440 so that's

00:34:28.300 that's probably the trend

00:34:29.140 but when Lizzo's doing it

00:34:30.840 it's getting publicized

00:34:32.500 it's everywhere

00:34:33.180 it's being pushed by media

00:34:34.300 and then on top of that

00:34:35.740 she's proclaiming

00:34:37.080 that she's happy

00:34:37.540 at that weight as well

00:34:38.360 so she's also leading

00:34:39.280 with that

00:34:39.640 she's responding

00:34:40.620 to criticism

00:34:41.160 why is she getting criticism

00:34:42.540 because the majority

00:34:44.120 of people

00:34:44.680 don't find that attractive

00:34:45.800 and you guys

00:34:46.600 and you guys can't

00:34:47.320 a lot of people

00:34:47.940 can't do anything about that

00:34:48.900 to the average individual

00:34:50.540 they don't find fat people

00:34:51.920 attractive

00:34:52.180 to you

00:34:52.640 maybe not

00:34:53.280 I'm telling you

00:34:54.100 as a big person myself

00:34:55.560 I'm not going to go

00:34:56.620 like I get a lot of attention

00:34:57.720 and I know a lot of big women

00:34:59.620 that get attention

00:35:00.360 you're talking about a niche

00:35:01.340 not niche

00:35:02.440 not niche

00:35:03.980 not niche

00:35:04.900 I don't know where you grew up

00:35:05.740 you probably grew up

00:35:06.520 with the skinny skinny people

00:35:07.480 but there's a mix

00:35:09.240 there's literally been a mixture

00:35:10.840 for real

00:35:12.600 that's how it's been

00:35:13.620 I mean

00:35:14.220 there's always going to be

00:35:15.100 a market for it

00:35:15.920 I mean there's categories

00:35:16.780 for it Sugar Puff

00:35:17.700 but I'm saying

00:35:18.420 that the majority of people

00:35:20.160 don't find it attractive

00:35:21.020 that's why they get criticism

00:35:22.380 and you can say

00:35:23.500 whether they're leading

00:35:24.280 with their body or not

00:35:24.940 but at the end of the day

00:35:25.500 it's just

00:35:25.820 she's in the public light

00:35:27.180 she's a

00:35:28.080 I think it's three

00:35:31.440 I gotta find it

00:35:32.280 but it's like

00:35:32.700 three out of five guys

00:35:33.880 will eliminate you

00:35:34.880 based on your weight alone

00:35:35.960 and they'd eliminate you

00:35:37.260 based on other things as well

00:35:38.420 which is completely fine

00:35:39.480 I'm not too concerned about it

00:35:40.240 like a lot of guys

00:35:41.440 would eliminate me

00:35:42.120 because I'm black

00:35:42.800 or because I'm maybe

00:35:43.640 not tall enough

00:35:44.400 or too short

00:35:45.140 like you know

00:35:45.960 it is what it is

00:35:46.920 yeah but it's not being fat phobic

00:35:48.260 that's not being fat phobic

00:35:49.400 that's just being

00:35:50.080 who said fat phobic

00:35:51.380 no as in

00:35:51.960 if you like

00:35:52.480 it's just preference

00:35:53.560 like what you were saying

00:35:54.560 that's what I was about to say

00:35:55.560 couldn't you argue

00:35:57.020 that the best dating advice

00:35:58.280 for women is to lose weight

00:35:59.720 I would say that

00:36:00.720 I have never struggled

00:36:01.680 regardless of my weight

00:36:03.040 like I've been thin

00:36:04.440 and I've been fat

00:36:05.440 and I have never ever

00:36:06.820 like this is the biggest

00:36:07.560 it's not the biggest

00:36:08.820 because I've lost a stone

00:36:09.340 but it's almost the biggest

00:36:10.480 I've ever been

00:36:11.140 and I've never struggled in life

00:36:12.660 I've always been called pretty

00:36:13.940 I've always got jobs

00:36:15.220 that like are around

00:36:16.740 what I look like

00:36:17.580 I've done well online

00:36:18.600 which a lot of people would argue

00:36:19.600 you have to be pretty to do

00:36:21.540 and I've never been described

00:36:23.560 I can get into the Mayfair clubs

00:36:24.820 I can do everything

00:36:25.460 that I've ever wanted to do

00:36:26.540 and I've never felt like I couldn't

00:36:28.440 well I mean

00:36:28.800 you have youth on your side

00:36:30.120 you're 26 right

00:36:31.680 and wouldn't you argue

00:36:33.100 you told me a different show

00:36:34.300 that you got more attention

00:36:35.160 when you were thinner

00:36:35.860 you still get attention now

00:36:37.560 I mean yeah

00:36:38.020 but I've never struggled

00:36:39.180 I mean the attention

00:36:40.180 is a burden

00:36:40.860 a lot of the time

00:36:41.560 for most women

00:36:42.340 a burden

00:36:43.140 no no

00:36:43.960 women compete for attention

00:36:45.540 no I think for me

00:36:47.120 women will get BBLs

00:36:48.780 they will get surgery

00:36:49.760 just to get attention

00:36:50.720 from men

00:36:51.260 so one of my big goals

00:36:52.180 is like so my audience

00:36:53.520 has split 50-50 male

00:36:54.800 female

00:36:55.160 on all of my platforms

00:36:56.220 my biggest goal

00:36:57.400 is to go to more women

00:36:59.040 and so for

00:36:59.860 at the moment

00:37:00.280 I'm trying to build on Facebook

00:37:01.220 and when I target my ads

00:37:03.000 I target them at women

00:37:03.960 I tell girly stories

00:37:05.160 I tell gossipy things

00:37:06.140 I aim my twitches

00:37:07.160 like girly

00:37:08.400 sleepover vibes

00:37:09.660 like I don't want men

00:37:10.660 because I don't like

00:37:11.460 that attention

00:37:12.020 I have a boyfriend

00:37:13.060 I have a good life

00:37:14.500 I don't need

00:37:15.180 men

00:37:16.380 like

00:37:16.800 yeah well I mean

00:37:17.280 again this isn't

00:37:18.080 but I'm not talking about you

00:37:19.180 personally

00:37:19.720 but I think when we have

00:37:20.820 women getting extreme surgeries

00:37:22.600 just to get attention

00:37:23.840 from men

00:37:24.400 I think we can say

00:37:25.600 that women do want attention

00:37:26.820 from men

00:37:27.440 I would just say

00:37:28.160 have you seen the BBLs

00:37:29.340 have you seen them

00:37:30.120 on the plane

00:37:30.600 oh come on

00:37:31.240 I've worked as an actor

00:37:32.220 I've seen a lot of boob jobs

00:37:33.100 I've seen a lot of BBLs

00:37:34.140 I've seen it in modelling

00:37:35.100 but like what I would say

00:37:36.500 is like as a plus size person

00:37:37.860 I've never felt

00:37:39.740 like discriminated against

00:37:41.420 I've never felt ugly

00:37:42.360 because I was fat

00:37:43.000 I've never been told

00:37:43.800 I was ugly

00:37:44.220 because I was fat

00:37:44.760 other than like

00:37:45.720 occasionally in Pearl's chat

00:37:47.000 but

00:37:47.520 do you know what I mean

00:37:49.340 like I just

00:37:50.300 I've never suffered for that

00:37:51.600 and so I would never give someone

00:37:52.820 that dating advice

00:37:53.680 because it's never held me back

00:37:55.340 personally

00:37:55.840 that's

00:37:56.480 you personally

00:37:57.440 is the key there isn't it

00:37:58.620 you personally

00:37:59.260 it hasn't held you back

00:38:00.300 but then I guess

00:38:00.920 if we did a survey

00:38:01.960 of fat people

00:38:03.200 fat women

00:38:03.740 probably if we're being truthful

00:38:06.360 being fat

00:38:07.020 that has held them back

00:38:07.900 at points

00:38:08.420 whether they know it or not

00:38:09.540 right

00:38:10.320 I have a question

00:38:11.920 do you feel that?

00:38:13.300 I don't

00:38:13.640 I've never really actively dated

00:38:15.300 so I can't really say

00:38:16.200 and also

00:38:16.720 as I like

00:38:17.460 to my own point

00:38:18.340 it has probably held me back

00:38:20.100 without my knowledge

00:38:21.080 like there's the seen

00:38:22.940 and then there's the unseen

00:38:23.880 right

00:38:24.160 and you know

00:38:25.360 there would be

00:38:25.980 what some people

00:38:27.080 in Pearl's chat

00:38:27.680 would call the liberals

00:38:28.660 they would say

00:38:29.260 that you've got white privilege

00:38:30.320 on your side

00:38:30.900 like there's

00:38:31.460 the intersectionality

00:38:33.680 part of it

00:38:34.300 that will go like

00:38:35.420 well

00:38:36.000 maybe you haven't been

00:38:37.120 declined jobs

00:38:37.720 because you are desirable

00:38:39.280 in the market

00:38:39.780 for other reasons

00:38:40.700 like size aside

00:38:42.400 as much as

00:38:43.220 as much as you're comfortable

00:38:44.340 in your skin

00:38:45.000 if you were to step

00:38:45.960 step on a scale

00:38:46.800 and see some alarming numbers

00:38:48.580 would you change your lifestyle

00:38:50.360 or would you continue

00:38:51.220 living the same

00:38:52.120 lifestyle that you're living

00:38:53.600 right now?

00:38:54.200 I'm doing it

00:38:54.840 I make that

00:38:55.420 yeah I eat healthy

00:38:56.780 and I am very active

00:38:58.660 I dance

00:38:59.260 like you see

00:38:59.900 on my social media

00:39:00.980 I'm not actually

00:39:02.120 trying to promote

00:39:02.940 I'm trying to change

00:39:04.860 my lifestyle

00:39:05.340 by keeping it going

00:39:06.360 and actually going

00:39:07.600 through the struggles

00:39:08.540 and literally

00:39:09.400 keeping it going

00:39:10.520 you are talking

00:39:11.200 to three fat people

00:39:12.120 that none of us

00:39:13.220 here are sitting here

00:39:14.020 being like

00:39:14.500 everyone should be

00:39:15.300 our weight

00:39:15.800 and it's good for us

00:39:16.640 we're actively saying

00:39:17.740 like yeah

00:39:18.060 we need to lose weight

00:39:18.700 we need to sort it out

00:39:19.300 you know

00:39:19.680 but it's difficult

00:39:20.340 I commend you

00:39:21.040 for trying to lose weight

00:39:22.080 and good on you

00:39:22.760 good luck on the journey

00:39:23.860 thank you

00:39:24.540 but can I just say

00:39:25.980 it just depends

00:39:27.280 who you guys

00:39:27.980 are deflecting the blame on

00:39:29.120 not just to you guys

00:39:30.020 personally

00:39:30.440 but the fat in general

00:39:31.600 it's not

00:39:32.200 are you blaming

00:39:32.920 other people

00:39:33.720 for calling you guys out

00:39:35.200 or do you want to take

00:39:36.220 some personal responsibility

00:39:37.100 and say

00:39:37.720 hey it's on me

00:39:38.600 to lose weight

00:39:39.160 I take on

00:39:40.100 I'm not delusional

00:39:42.160 if someone says

00:39:43.420 you're big

00:39:44.000 you're unhealthy

00:39:44.580 I'm like

00:39:45.300 I just tell them

00:39:46.540 look man

00:39:46.940 I try and I'm unhealthy

00:39:48.720 and it is what it is

00:39:49.660 and that's why I say

00:39:50.940 kindness

00:39:51.460 matters so much

00:39:53.180 because you can actually be

00:39:54.540 you can influence

00:39:55.720 someone to lose weight

00:39:57.320 just by being kind

00:39:58.680 and the reason why

00:39:59.980 but I think

00:40:00.960 but I think

00:40:00.980 gyms are scary

00:40:01.880 but I think

00:40:02.520 if that was true

00:40:04.020 then we would see

00:40:04.980 more body positive

00:40:06.460 people lose weight

00:40:07.500 I'm sorry

00:40:07.740 gyms are scary

00:40:08.660 do you know what gyms do

00:40:09.640 big muscle men

00:40:11.000 and skinny withy men

00:40:12.740 that exercise

00:40:13.760 and they're fast

00:40:14.820 and they can probably

00:40:16.080 poke you

00:40:16.600 and it will hurt

00:40:17.120 they actually laugh

00:40:18.740 they actually laugh

00:40:20.060 they take the piece

00:40:21.360 but really

00:40:21.880 when you're in the gym

00:40:22.900 you're meant to be like

00:40:23.540 yeah come on

00:40:24.060 you can do it

00:40:24.800 and not actually

00:40:26.240 make someone a certain weight

00:40:27.480 you want to hear something

00:40:28.120 a scale will actually

00:40:29.280 tell you something

00:40:29.900 worse than a human

00:40:30.580 you know that

00:40:31.100 sorry

00:40:31.540 a scale will tell you

00:40:32.600 something worse than a human

00:40:33.560 like saying numbers don't lie

00:40:36.120 your numbers don't lie

00:40:37.080 a scale will speak

00:40:38.460 will speak more

00:40:39.620 like bleat unto you

00:40:40.640 than a human

00:40:41.560 I'm not saying luck again

00:40:45.540 I'm not promoting eating unhealthy

00:40:47.560 I'm not promoting don't exercise

00:40:49.140 wouldn't you say

00:40:49.740 if someone says you're fat

00:40:50.780 it's the same thing

00:40:51.540 as if you're tall

00:40:52.300 it's just a fact

00:40:53.260 Pearl

00:40:54.760 it's true

00:40:55.720 I don't want to get too personal

00:40:57.080 but I do have health issues

00:40:58.480 and that's why

00:40:59.140 that's why

00:41:00.260 to encourage myself

00:41:01.320 I do the TikTok dancing

00:41:03.140 I actually go out

00:41:04.160 I'm active

00:41:04.840 I went surfing in Cornwall

00:41:07.440 I went recycling

00:41:09.880 plastic

00:41:10.720 that's amazing

00:41:11.600 no that's my way of exercise

00:41:13.720 because when I go to the gym

00:41:15.200 and when I put too much

00:41:16.760 I have other issues

00:41:18.100 and my body hurts

00:41:18.880 and my obesity

00:41:20.400 is starting from childhood

00:41:21.380 I got you three trainers

00:41:22.600 right here

00:41:23.140 that can go through everything

00:41:24.220 do you spend money

00:41:25.400 to do these things

00:41:25.980 you have to spend money

00:41:26.580 to go Cornwall

00:41:27.140 spend money for a train

00:41:29.640 spend money for surfing

00:41:31.560 my issue started

00:41:32.660 it's the same way

00:41:33.920 you could spend money

00:41:34.700 on nutrition

00:41:35.880 one day

00:41:36.920 I will share my story

00:41:38.020 but my

00:41:38.560 I've

00:41:39.720 a lot of things

00:41:40.900 like just

00:41:41.540 I was unfortunate

00:41:42.740 within life

00:41:43.480 and that's why

00:41:44.960 I always live a positive life

00:41:46.660 and I tell people

00:41:47.980 be healthy

00:41:48.900 eat healthy

00:41:49.500 exercise

00:41:50.100 and I

00:41:51.220 and I will share my story

00:41:52.500 one day

00:41:52.840 but that's the thing

00:41:53.720 I don't want to be a story

00:41:55.080 I don't want to be that person

00:41:56.700 he's big

00:41:57.320 and now

00:41:58.000 he's talking about this

00:41:59.240 he's talking about that

00:42:00.300 no I'm not going to be that person

00:42:02.080 because that's what people think

00:42:04.160 that's what people think

00:42:05.400 a plus size man is

00:42:06.800 they're just basically

00:42:08.340 there for there

00:42:09.180 but no

00:42:09.780 I actually want to push myself

00:42:11.520 I've got that push in life

00:42:13.380 and that's what I'm doing

00:42:14.480 and

00:42:15.180 and along with that push

00:42:16.940 because it was so hard

00:42:18.660 all my life

00:42:19.400 that's why I spread

00:42:20.760 love and positivity

00:42:21.860 because

00:42:22.440 people were just

00:42:23.680 damn right nasty

00:42:24.740 can you say though

00:42:26.100 can you say though

00:42:27.080 conversations like this

00:42:28.440 are probably better than

00:42:29.560 the body positivity movement

00:42:31.240 isn't it

00:42:31.900 but like I said

00:42:33.180 when I talk about

00:42:33.960 body positivity

00:42:34.800 I say it's about

00:42:36.220 accepting yourself

00:42:36.960 can you let him finish this sentence

00:42:37.920 no I was just saying

00:42:39.140 wouldn't you say

00:42:40.100 talking openly about it

00:42:41.900 is better

00:42:42.840 than not just saying

00:42:44.000 hey

00:42:44.280 now I'm happy and comfortable

00:42:45.360 with my own weight

00:42:46.060 and I'm positive

00:42:46.820 I need to protect my mindset

00:42:48.180 but actually having

00:42:49.260 we're civil

00:42:50.060 we get a long sugar puff

00:42:51.420 we're not going at each other

00:42:52.900 everything's all friendly

00:42:53.940 I'm really enjoying

00:42:54.680 listening to you guys

00:42:55.640 100%

00:42:55.660 because it's educational

00:42:56.680 isn't that better

00:42:57.940 than the body positivity movement

00:42:59.760 do you know what

00:43:01.120 it's just

00:43:01.580 I see

00:43:02.980 when I look

00:43:03.560 Pearl

00:43:04.180 well sorry

00:43:05.280 I need to remember

00:43:06.260 your name again

00:43:06.780 John

00:43:06.860 John

00:43:07.720 when I look at people

00:43:09.760 I look into their eyes

00:43:11.860 and

00:43:12.640 I look at their

00:43:14.040 face expressions

00:43:15.040 and

00:43:16.580 sometimes

00:43:17.180 I see people

00:43:18.480 and I see

00:43:19.200 and it's with any size

00:43:20.820 or any shape

00:43:21.440 or any body

00:43:22.040 I see

00:43:22.960 sometimes I see

00:43:24.060 people have had a hard life

00:43:25.440 and they're trying to keep it going

00:43:26.660 and their smile

00:43:27.520 and

00:43:29.040 that's why

00:43:30.100 I don't see people

00:43:31.320 in their way

00:43:32.520 or the way they look

00:43:33.480 because people have more to them

00:43:34.900 and the thing is

00:43:36.180 I'm all about

00:43:37.340 I don't think you're answering

00:43:38.520 his question though

00:43:39.520 no but that's

00:43:40.240 no

00:43:40.480 okay

00:43:41.500 the reason how

00:43:42.400 the way I'm answering it is

00:43:44.220 what I'm saying is

00:43:45.440 I see people's soul

00:43:46.460 and that's why for me

00:43:47.480 weight

00:43:47.800 whether you're skinny

00:43:48.580 fat

00:43:48.940 small

00:43:49.420 I literally see people's soul

00:43:51.560 and the worst

00:43:52.540 and the crazy thing is

00:43:54.640 I'm usually right

00:43:56.220 like I can

00:43:56.880 I can look at someone

00:43:57.800 and that's why

00:43:58.580 sometimes

00:43:59.560 when I know

00:44:00.500 people have

00:44:01.120 when I know

00:44:01.980 when I can tell

00:44:03.020 people have just

00:44:03.880 they go through stuff

00:44:05.400 every day

00:44:06.060 day to day

00:44:06.820 I'm not gonna lie

00:44:08.340 that's what makes me laugh

00:44:09.500 that's what makes me happy

00:44:10.380 because I want to encourage them

00:44:11.620 but what conversation

00:44:12.680 is more productive

00:44:13.540 I think that for us

00:44:15.580 this is a productive conversation

00:44:17.200 so we're three people

00:44:18.140 that have come here

00:44:18.900 we know what the topic is

00:44:20.140 we know what we're talking about

00:44:20.980 and we're willing to sit here

00:44:22.080 on a challenge

00:44:22.760 with a million subscribers

00:44:24.180 and talk about it

00:44:24.980 I think most fat people

00:44:26.360 wouldn't do that

00:44:27.500 you know

00:44:28.060 I don't think

00:44:28.620 I don't think a lot of people

00:44:29.900 even plus size models

00:44:31.020 I know personally

00:44:32.020 would not be comfortable

00:44:33.140 to sit here

00:44:33.860 and defend the body positivity movement

00:44:35.240 and so it's easy for me to say

00:44:37.140 well yeah

00:44:37.520 this is a great conversation

00:44:38.320 we're going on really well

00:44:39.120 but do I think that this would make

00:44:40.560 some of my fat friends

00:44:41.340 break down and cry

00:44:42.200 because they don't want to

00:44:43.040 acknowledge the fact that

00:44:43.980 they're having a terrible time

00:44:46.140 but maybe

00:44:46.820 maybe they'll cry

00:44:48.140 and then start to lose weight

00:44:50.300 sometimes it starts

00:44:51.580 I'm telling you

00:44:52.700 Adele cried and lost weight

00:44:53.920 Adele

00:44:54.520 you brought up Adele earlier

00:44:56.380 let me tell you

00:44:56.920 Adele went through a breakup

00:44:57.980 she did not eat

00:44:59.500 that's how sad she was

00:45:00.440 she lost weight

00:45:01.160 alright

00:45:01.500 alright

00:45:02.020 alright

00:45:02.400 I think it could be

00:45:05.820 the first step

00:45:06.820 you know

00:45:07.180 I'm serious

00:45:07.940 when the guys at my work

00:45:09.900 they had this conversation

00:45:11.260 about how women over 200

00:45:12.660 whatever

00:45:13.180 were so fat

00:45:14.000 da da da da da

00:45:14.620 I went in the bathroom

00:45:15.940 and I cried

00:45:16.500 and then I ran a marathon

00:45:17.360 and then I lost the weight

00:45:18.380 I love that Pico

00:45:19.180 that's great

00:45:19.760 yeah

00:45:20.240 and I just think like

00:45:21.720 instead of getting emotional

00:45:22.900 about it

00:45:23.500 we should think about

00:45:24.580 solutions

00:45:25.520 but Pearl

00:45:26.060 and I'm going to say

00:45:26.720 different people have

00:45:27.800 different mechanisms

00:45:28.720 I'm just going to say

00:45:29.680 I'm not going to lose sleep

00:45:30.680 if someone is crying

00:45:32.160 when people are just

00:45:34.400 telling the truth

00:45:35.020 but that doesn't mean it helps

00:45:36.660 it doesn't matter

00:45:37.980 like you can't just

00:45:39.040 not say what you want to say

00:45:41.220 because you're scared

00:45:41.900 you're going to hurt

00:45:42.240 someone's feelings

00:45:42.960 at the end of the day

00:45:44.500 if it's the truth

00:45:45.620 and someone is on the way

00:45:46.720 to where it's unhealthy

00:45:47.540 they've got to deal

00:45:48.420 with the reality

00:45:48.960 you can't just say

00:45:49.500 oh let's just protect them

00:45:50.520 guys

00:45:50.960 people have different

00:45:53.040 coping mechanisms as well

00:45:54.480 please understand

00:45:55.400 would you rather

00:45:57.600 your friend tell you

00:45:58.600 or would you rather

00:45:59.200 a scale tell you

00:46:01.020 I'd rather my scale

00:46:02.080 and my friend tell me

00:46:03.020 so I know to

00:46:03.840 actually try

00:46:05.120 actively be active

00:46:05.980 you turn that

00:46:06.820 into motivation

00:46:07.560 why not

00:46:08.180 yes I do

00:46:09.240 why not take

00:46:09.680 yeah exactly

00:46:10.300 take that as motivation

00:46:11.720 you are right sir

00:46:12.540 you do need

00:46:13.180 to lose weight

00:46:14.060 I just think

00:46:14.740 it's a very personal thing

00:46:16.200 where like

00:46:16.780 if my boyfriend

00:46:17.480 came to me

00:46:18.380 and like me and my boyfriend

00:46:19.300 have had this conversation

00:46:20.160 where I've been like

00:46:21.660 I want to be healthier

00:46:22.500 I need you to help me

00:46:23.480 and he's like

00:46:24.120 okay well

00:46:24.900 like my boyfriend

00:46:26.120 has a sweet tooth

00:46:26.740 but he's a very skinny guy

00:46:27.680 and like he's like

00:46:28.980 okay I won't eat cake

00:46:29.880 around you

00:46:30.220 I don't want to tempt you

00:46:30.940 you know

00:46:31.160 and we've had those conversations

00:46:32.360 but they're very vulnerable

00:46:33.340 conversations with people

00:46:34.160 very close to you

00:46:35.000 I don't think that we

00:46:35.800 should be telling people

00:46:36.580 in general

00:46:37.080 like about that

00:46:38.180 and I think

00:46:38.760 and I think this is the problem

00:46:40.520 I think as a society

00:46:41.600 we're too soft

00:46:42.760 I do tell people

00:46:44.140 I tell my friends

00:46:45.680 have you ever had a conversation

00:46:46.980 with like a 70 or 80 year old

00:46:49.280 and you

00:46:49.580 this is what I mean

00:46:50.640 when I go to my grandma's house

00:46:51.880 at Christmas

00:46:52.420 and they're just like

00:46:53.020 yeah you're fat

00:46:53.720 I don't tell my friends

00:46:55.420 that they're fat

00:46:55.980 but I tell them

00:46:56.560 look it's unhealthy

00:46:57.200 and we encourage each other

00:46:58.340 I'm not saying you do that to a stranger

00:46:58.880 on the street

00:46:59.680 but I think in your social circle

00:47:01.660 at least somebody should tell you

00:47:03.360 I have a question

00:47:03.680 if someone

00:47:04.460 if you know

00:47:06.500 person A is overweight

00:47:08.080 and people

00:47:09.300 whether it's strangers

00:47:10.460 or their nearest and dearest

00:47:11.920 tell them in whatever way

00:47:13.580 kindness first we hope

00:47:14.740 that they are unhealthy

00:47:16.860 and that you know

00:47:18.380 I love you

00:47:18.960 you're unhealthy

00:47:19.560 you need to get into the gym

00:47:20.940 and I'll even come with you

00:47:22.080 that person cries

00:47:24.000 but then harms themselves

00:47:26.100 maybe unalives themselves

00:47:27.980 yeah

00:47:28.300 A

00:47:29.980 is that the person

00:47:31.440 or the people

00:47:32.040 who told them to lose weight

00:47:33.060 is that their fault

00:47:33.940 and B

00:47:34.680 if not

00:47:35.540 is that just Darwinism

00:47:37.240 is that like

00:47:38.060 survival of the fittest

00:47:39.260 yeah like the weakest just go

00:47:40.400 because not only

00:47:41.280 are you weak in body

00:47:43.000 but you're also weak in mind

00:47:44.300 you're looking at a very

00:47:45.640 minute example

00:47:46.940 yeah

00:47:47.360 okay that doesn't happen

00:47:48.240 very often

00:47:48.800 I wasn't giving an example

00:47:49.440 no no no

00:47:49.820 I think if that was a hypothetical

00:47:51.200 if that was to happen

00:47:52.120 for example

00:47:52.720 I've got a fat mate

00:47:54.200 how many times have we heard this

00:47:55.640 I've got a fat friend

00:47:56.420 okay I love the fat

00:47:58.500 but I've got a fat

00:47:59.920 I've got a fat friend

00:48:00.760 shout out to Calca

00:48:01.720 when he gets overweight

00:48:03.520 we pull him aside

00:48:05.060 we don't pull him aside

00:48:05.660 we actually

00:48:06.040 our mates as a group together

00:48:07.660 mate you're getting pudgy

00:48:08.760 time to lose weight

00:48:09.540 what's the new year's resolution

00:48:10.740 this year

00:48:11.300 giving up Maltesers again

00:48:12.700 like we're just

00:48:13.520 we gee him up

00:48:14.180 it's to a point

00:48:15.100 if he's gonna go

00:48:16.540 and harm himself

00:48:17.720 again

00:48:18.660 that's not on

00:48:19.680 that's not on the group

00:48:20.820 of friends

00:48:21.440 that are jovially

00:48:22.640 have banter with him

00:48:24.020 and encouraging him

00:48:24.860 to lose weight

00:48:25.600 that's just

00:48:26.680 again

00:48:27.100 Pearl said

00:48:27.980 society's gone too soft

00:48:29.260 I think it's the case of that

00:48:30.320 wouldn't you

00:48:30.840 wouldn't you say

00:48:31.420 they're harming themselves

00:48:32.320 either way

00:48:33.060 because if you die

00:48:33.800 have a heart attack

00:48:34.660 at 35

00:48:35.320 you're gonna have

00:48:36.440 the same outcome

00:48:37.300 I mean even now

00:48:38.280 there's a new

00:48:39.800 there's like an epidemic

00:48:40.680 of people between the ages

00:48:41.960 of 25 and 30

00:48:42.900 getting cancer

00:48:43.620 I think it's

00:48:45.140 obviously obesity

00:48:45.880 causes cancer

00:48:46.500 there was a big ad

00:48:47.480 in London for a long time

00:48:48.360 that said obesity

00:48:48.820 causes cancer

00:48:49.340 a lot of people

00:48:49.720 had a problem with it

00:48:50.300 I didn't have a problem

00:48:51.180 with it

00:48:52.000 I mean I was skinny

00:48:52.480 at the time

00:48:52.800 but it's true

00:48:54.920 obesity causes cancer

00:48:56.440 no one is denying that

00:48:57.780 but that doesn't stop me

00:48:59.420 so one of my tweets

00:49:00.740 I had recently

00:49:01.380 was I tweeted myself

00:49:02.620 in a bikini

00:49:03.100 and I said

00:49:03.900 stop waiting

00:49:05.320 to lose weight

00:49:06.200 to get in a bikini

00:49:06.960 and just go

00:49:07.540 and enjoy yourself

00:49:08.160 with your friends

00:49:08.620 in the sun

00:49:09.020 like just enjoy it

00:49:10.560 I think you should wait

00:49:11.220 to get in a bikini

00:49:11.860 I don't think you should

00:49:12.340 because

00:49:12.800 I think

00:49:13.760 I like feeling

00:49:15.800 like my bikini

00:49:16.620 is earned

00:49:17.240 yeah but

00:49:17.580 when I was thinner

00:49:19.620 when I was thinner

00:49:21.620 I was less inclined

00:49:23.220 to wear one

00:49:24.100 because I was more

00:49:25.000 insecure

00:49:25.340 when I was fatter

00:49:26.460 I was less likely

00:49:27.700 to wear one too

00:49:29.020 and I think that's like

00:49:30.180 as the world should be

00:49:31.480 does that mean

00:49:31.880 you should never go

00:49:32.480 on holiday

00:49:32.820 I think you should show

00:49:33.880 no I think you know

00:49:34.800 you should be modest

00:49:35.760 in that regard

00:49:36.660 yeah I think you show

00:49:37.660 off things you're proud of

00:49:38.900 and I don't think

00:49:39.580 you should be proud

00:49:40.540 of being overweight

00:49:42.180 I'm not proud

00:49:43.620 of being overweight

00:49:44.440 but I wouldn't say

00:49:45.740 that I shouldn't go

00:49:46.480 in a bikini

00:49:46.920 with my friends

00:49:47.520 like watch

00:49:48.120 I should just sit

00:49:48.620 on the sand

00:49:49.080 and read a book

00:49:49.700 while I wait for them

00:49:50.440 you know

00:49:50.660 I just want to enjoy

00:49:51.280 my life

00:49:51.620 what are those one pieces

00:49:52.480 I have a question

00:49:53.620 I mean I think I look good

00:49:56.500 you know

00:49:56.940 check my Instagram

00:49:58.240 pearblossom underscore axe

00:49:59.380 I think I look good

00:50:00.060 in a bikini

00:50:00.460 so in a bikini

00:50:10.240 let me deform

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JustPearlyThings - August 03, 2023

Body Positivity Activist Advocating for Obesity

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