JustPearlyThings - June 23, 2023


Body Positivity Made People DELUSIONAL


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11 minutes

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2,054

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178

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15

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In this episode, we discuss the role of food in society and the impact it has on our mental health. We also discuss the importance of eating in moderation and the role food has played in shaping the way we grow up.

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00:00:00.000 Can I just remind you all that body positivity isn't only like people with
00:00:05.580 big black relatives. It's about unable people as well. People are born deformed, 1.00
00:00:12.000 some people are born with disabilities. I think body positivity is also linked
00:00:16.920 with that. But the main marketing component of body positivity is towards
00:00:21.360 women to say you can be obese. I just don't think we should celebrate 1.00
00:00:26.400 something that's a choice. You're celebrating it when you're putting on
00:00:32.020 the cover of magazines. That's a reward. That's like a positive thing when you're
00:00:36.060 you're specifically giving people parts because they're plus size. When you're 0.86
00:00:39.900 specifically trying to put it out there make that the representation of in the
00:00:44.020 media. And it's interesting too because earlier you said like that you seem to
00:00:50.700 say like you couldn't lose the weight. Was that what you were saying earlier?
00:00:54.120 Yes, I couldn't. But it's but it's like before we the podcast start you drink a
00:00:58.740 Coke. I'm not trying to call you out but it's like. No, no, no, no. No, don't get me wrong.
00:01:03.780 Yeah. Hello, I'm on your podcast. I want to have a good time, you know. I'm not at home.
00:01:08.240 I don't need to be drinking all healthy stuff. The reason I say that is just
00:01:13.860 because I'll hear people say that but then I like watch what they eat and I'm like it
00:01:18.000 doesn't seem to add up. Do you know it's just about representation. It's it's basically the
00:01:23.800 little things from like, there's, for example, you can go to a store, you can't get certain
00:01:31.560 things. You can order something from online, you can't see, you can't actually because
00:01:37.320 there's not the person wearing it, you can't see it. I was actually gonna say something. What I wanted
00:01:44.680 to say is, um, it's actually just go and go and take it away. I think it's just the
00:01:49.680 man thought just escaped. That's fine. I think it all starts as well from a young age and how
00:01:57.680 you're brought up. Yes. And the way that your parents feed you and what they do for you being
00:02:04.520 brought up. Well, and that's why I think it's so important to like get in control of your eating
00:02:09.060 habits. If you want to have children because it's not fair to the next generation to be brought up 0.99
00:02:14.340 with eating habits that will give you an early grave. And I even think about that with myself
00:02:18.420 because I have like a horrible sugar addiction. I literally love sugar. It's so bad. So does
00:02:24.060 everybody else. It's addictive. Right. But we do have like health problems because like a lot of
00:02:29.460 people in my family eat a lot of, I forget what the early onset something. I don't know. I'm not a
00:02:35.060 person, but, but like, I think of this even for myself, you know? So I think it's like important
00:02:40.500 that we don't celebrate that sort of thing. Yeah. I agree with that because growing up for me,
00:02:45.620 I used to see my mum forever doing different diets. Yeah. Going on the Cambridge diet, you know,
00:02:51.020 when you just eat the shakes and you have those cardboard bars, you know, the kilo diet. Yeah.
00:02:56.420 And I remember being at school and my mum was happy to say, I'd be like, mum, I want to go on a diet.
00:03:01.160 And she'd pack my rivita with my fruit. And I was, I was at school at year eight, year nine. So it's 12,
00:03:07.400 13. Yeah. And my mum was happy to do that. Whereas, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's created bad habits
00:03:13.400 for me and unhealthy eating habits. Yeah. I think everything in moderation. Do you know what I
00:03:17.480 realized too? I think it's, um, a problem that comes from moms not being in the home anymore. 0.98
00:03:23.080 Yeah. Because when moms are in the home, they're watching like what everyone's eating. 0.98
00:03:26.760 It's like they're full, full. It's, it's tough to do that to watch what everyone's eating when you're,
00:03:31.000 you're working like 20, 30, 40 hours a week. In addition to that too, in addition to that, these,
00:03:34.680 the, a lot of these food companies are behind the body, body positivity movement because they know
00:03:40.200 that their food is not really food. It's like legislative poison. They have so much high fructose
00:03:46.360 culture and stuff. And then in addition to that too, the rates of home cooking is going down
00:03:52.760 all across the globe. Guilty. Yeah. And then, you know, people want to order Uber Eats and this
00:03:58.440 and all that crap. And then you're just eating processed food. And I personally, this is me,
00:04:03.720 I'm not, well, I don't have a food degree or whatever, my degree is in psychology, but I do believe
00:04:10.440 that the rise that we're seeing, we're ever seeing an increasing rate of cancer in people.
00:04:16.200 I think that's directly correlated to the amount of processed food that we're consuming.
00:04:20.680 This is what I wanted to say earlier. Body positivity is important. And the reason why it's important
00:04:28.040 is because people have grown, grown up watching different things. They've watched a certain
00:04:35.080 type of people. They've watched a certain type of behaviour and people, there are some people
00:04:40.440 that don't leave their house. There are some people who travel. There are some people who don't
00:04:45.560 experience much. And they don't know, they judge people, they have certain behaviours, what was
00:04:53.800 taught on telly. And that's why it's important. It's not because it's important, like big people
00:05:01.080 should be promoted. It's important because some people actually aren't nice and some people do judge
00:05:08.280 and some people speak, use a certain language. And if there was, while growing up, if there was a mixture
00:05:14.680 of people, if there were a mixture of cultures, mixtures of backgrounds, all these things, yeah,
00:05:22.920 body positivity wouldn't be needed. But unfortunately, we've been programmed to think this is beautiful,
00:05:29.800 that is beautiful. I don't think so. No, no, because if you try, if you look at, because they did a study
00:05:34.520 on this, this is what I do for a living, so let me just tell you. So they did a study on female 1.00
00:05:38.840 attractiveness across all cultures, over multiple different generations and time periods. And what
00:05:45.800 guys like is still the same. Small hips, nice butt, big breasts. Shall I tell you why? I have something here, 0.76
00:05:53.960 too. It says, obese women are 20% less likely to marry. This is a survey of over 10,000 people,
00:06:00.760 which is a huge sample size. According to a large 2022 social survey on dating, 65% of men would
00:06:08.680 would assign a rejection score to three out of five women, meaning they would, they're more likely to 0.98
00:06:14.120 reject them. And 18% of men assign a five out of five rejection score, meaning they would definitely
00:06:19.160 reject them. So on that, I'd like to point out that we are talking about obese people,
00:06:23.880 because fatness is seen as the monolith of body positivity and fat people are an easy target.
00:06:31.480 We can have skinny people on the covers of magazines and no one will say anything. 0.99
00:06:35.880 You won't hear a peep, but their help is still in danger in many instances.
00:06:39.640 No, they did in the early 2000s. They said the girls were too skinny. 1.00
00:06:43.160 I actually remember that. Yeah, no, they definitely did.
00:06:45.800 And where's that nerve?
00:06:47.480 Anorexia was literally a thing. Models were, yeah, they were demonizing it. 0.69
00:06:51.320 The casting directors were getting sued all sorts.
00:06:53.640 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. People complained.
00:06:55.400 Where is that now?
00:06:56.840 The skinny girls aren't on the covers anymore. 1.00
00:06:58.920 They're replaced.
00:07:00.120 You think they're being replaced by fat people?
00:07:01.720 Yes.
00:07:02.280 No, no, no.
00:07:03.000 Girl, that's not true, please.
00:07:04.280 Look it, look it, look it, look it.
00:07:05.480 That's not true, I'm sorry.
00:07:06.760 Let's look at, let's look at the Victoria's Secret fashion show.
00:07:09.880 Yeah, Victoria's Secret.
00:07:10.520 That was like the epitome of modeling.
00:07:12.760 That was one of the top, like the epitome.
00:07:17.400 You cannot tell me that that was not one of the most competitive,
00:07:21.480 like everyone wanted to be a Victoria's Secret model.
00:07:23.960 Since they've switched to Victoria's Secret has been bleeding money.
00:07:27.480 They're losing money right now.
00:07:29.080 They're no longer a profitable business.
00:07:30.680 You need to think about how these brands are moving as well.
00:07:33.320 With Victoria's Secret, it was this tall woman. 0.86
00:07:37.640 There's this blonde hair.
00:07:39.480 Yeah, she's a certain looking type and you really see a difference 1.00
00:07:45.320 in what Rihanna's doing. 0.59
00:07:46.600 She's involving a whole load of rage and she's getting the sales. 1.00
00:07:50.280 So Victoria's Secret didn't move with the time and now the event is taking over.
00:07:54.440 I don't think we should have to adjust because of people's choices.
00:07:58.760 Like I don't like, because if you make a choice to be overweight,
00:08:01.720 like why does society have to adjust to you?
00:08:03.880 Like why does there have to be representation?
00:08:05.880 Wait, let me finish.
00:08:07.240 Why does there have to be representation on the cover of magazines? 0.89
00:08:10.040 Why do they have to make specific stores for bigger people?
00:08:12.680 When really, we should be focusing on losing the weight.
00:08:15.640 But Pearl, imagine for you as a tall person.
00:08:18.520 I used to be pretty big.
00:08:20.360 Yeah, so you're tall.
00:08:21.560 So, I'm sorry.
00:08:23.800 I just, I keep on losing my thoughts.
00:08:25.400 Sorry.
00:08:26.280 You're tall and imagine you going to, I'm guessing loads of places you go
00:08:31.800 and you're like, oh gosh, I'm tall.
00:08:34.440 I can't actually, I can't include myself in that.
00:08:37.320 Just like with plus size people. 1.00
00:08:38.680 Now, some people are lazy.
00:08:40.440 Life isn't fair though.
00:08:41.480 But some people are, some people are lazy.
00:08:43.480 And I have to pay extra money, but I live, you know.
00:08:45.880 Yeah, life isn't fair.
00:08:48.200 But that's the thing.
00:08:49.000 Some people have a choice of being big.
00:08:51.960 Some people are ill and they're big.
00:08:54.040 There are different types of reasons why people are big.
00:08:57.240 Some people, well, look at, I'll personally, and I'll put this on the podcast.
00:09:01.080 Anyone says they have, that they have no choice in being big,
00:09:03.560 I'll pay for their personal training and their nutrition.
00:09:05.880 I'll pay for it myself.
00:09:06.760 Well, Pearl, if I want to lose weight, okay, if I want to lose weight,
00:09:10.120 can I get in touch with you if I want to lose weight?
00:09:12.360 And you're going to pay for it.
00:09:13.480 Yeah, I'll pay for it.
00:09:13.880 Because listen, I'm doing it with you.
00:09:16.840 I'm not wasting money.
00:09:19.880 You have to meet me as a gym.
00:09:21.720 We'll see, Pearl.
00:09:23.720 But then look, there's certain laws of physics too that are like,
00:09:26.520 like you can't just spontaneously get fat.
00:09:30.440 Like the only way you get fat is from over consuming calories.
00:09:35.160 There's no ands, ifs, or buts about it.
00:09:37.080 My mom just came to Tokyo and I told her to you,
00:09:39.880 I'm going to take care of you, but you got to be in fat camp. 0.53
00:09:42.120 Because I want my mom around, right?
00:09:43.880 And so I brought her over and I had to teach her the fundamentals of losing weight,
00:09:49.320 fasting, physical fitness training, muscle training, and all these things, right?
00:09:53.960 She was grossly, grossly undereducated on these things.
00:09:57.320 And in three months, she lost 25 pounds. 0.61
00:10:00.680 And I sent her back home, right?
00:10:04.760 So, but you know what she told me before she came to Tokyo?
00:10:08.760 She's like, well, I have been going through menopause.
00:10:11.800 That's why I'm gaining weight.
00:10:12.760 I was like, mom, I love you.
00:10:14.120 But that is literally impossible for you just to spontaneously create fat cells.
00:10:21.320 It doesn't work like that.
00:10:23.000 Like it is understanding your daily calorie needs.
00:10:27.080 And then if you over consume those daily calorie needs,
00:10:29.880 your body will convert the remainder of food into fat.
00:10:34.120 And there is no ands, ifs, or buts about it.
00:10:36.360 So I'm not saying, I understand what you're saying, like being fat isn't choice,
00:10:40.120 but because I think people are just undereducated.
00:10:42.680 Because when you do over consume food, because a lot of people like, you know,
00:10:46.360 when I see these girls drinking these like venti size Starbucks with like 800, 1.00
00:10:52.840 like 800, like one drink is like 800 calories.
00:10:57.560 That's like a, that's like a ribeye steak.
00:11:01.080 Okay, mine's 300.
00:11:02.520 I don't know if mine is skinny.
00:11:04.520 Poe, honestly.