JustPearlyThings - July 18, 2023


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In this episode, we talk about feminism and why it s a problem. We discuss the history of feminism, the role of women in modern society, and the impact feminism has had on society. We also talk about the impact of feminism on society and how it s affected the family unit.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, I would go back to like 400 BC
00:00:04.100 and I would go to like Stoicism.
00:00:05.680 I'd go to like Plato and Aurelius.
00:00:07.020 And to me, like, that's a beautiful thing.
00:00:08.640 And you can't disagree with that philosophy, right?
00:00:11.060 That just because it's old
00:00:12.300 doesn't mean it's antiquated.
00:00:13.380 And the question is,
00:00:15.240 what's more important, money or family?
00:00:17.700 And back then they had intact families.
00:00:19.720 Now, almost 50% of births today
00:00:22.800 are out of wedlock, half.
00:00:25.500 Like this is the direction
00:00:26.800 feminism has led society. 1.00
00:00:28.480 So I think we can look at the...
00:00:29.600 You could say it's less about feminism
00:00:30.560 and more about the liberalization
00:00:31.840 and commercialization of sex.
00:00:33.160 I do agree with you.
00:00:33.840 This is a big problem,
00:00:34.700 but I'd say this is less about feminism 0.98
00:00:36.100 and more to do with people
00:00:37.120 not treating sex as something special.
00:00:38.900 Well, a big part of feminism 1.00
00:00:41.860 was pushing birth control,
00:00:43.540 which allowed women to do that. 1.00
00:00:45.220 No, birth control was actually invented by men.
00:00:47.400 It had very little to do with feminism. 1.00
00:00:48.760 No, no, yes, yes, it did.
00:00:49.800 It was invented by Paul Girassi.
00:00:51.860 In the US, it was Margaret Singer was a feminist.
00:00:53.680 I know, that's why I had to hold my face.
00:00:55.480 I couldn't believe it.
00:00:56.040 What?
00:00:56.420 Margaret Thatcher, did you mean?
00:00:57.840 Margaret Sanger.
00:00:58.960 Margaret Sanger.
00:00:59.280 Oh, okay.
00:00:59.740 Margaret Fethoff was kind of feminist. 1.00
00:01:02.620 No, she wasn't.
00:01:03.420 She was a very anti-feminist, 1.00
00:01:04.840 very vehemently anti-feminist
00:01:06.220 because the thing is,
00:01:06.940 I think people confuse feminism. 1.00
00:01:08.900 If she was in office,
00:01:10.060 she's got to be a feminist. 1.00
00:01:11.000 Margaret Fethoff! 1.00
00:01:11.300 No, she was so feminist. 1.00
00:01:12.620 There's a big confusion
00:01:13.540 between feminism and careerism
00:01:16.600 because a woman can be very, 1.00
00:01:17.900 very career focused
00:01:19.140 without being feminist. 1.00
00:01:20.300 Feminism is specifically about 1.00
00:01:21.740 liberating women from the patriarchy.
00:01:23.940 That's what feminist theory comes from. 1.00
00:01:25.780 But part of feminism 1.00
00:01:26.560 is spending your primary reproductive years
00:01:29.820 on a career and not a family.
00:01:31.480 Not necessarily.
00:01:32.660 Yes, a big part of feminism 1.00
00:01:34.220 is breaking up the family,
00:01:35.820 pushing policies that break up the family.
00:01:39.000 Yeah, but actually what it is,
00:01:40.260 it's more about this idea
00:01:41.320 of women are an oppressed social class 0.97
00:01:43.200 by a patriarchal society.
00:01:45.180 And this confusion is
00:01:46.220 because the confusion comes
00:01:47.540 when we start saying
00:01:48.360 that a woman having a career,
00:01:50.040 I mean, she's a feminist 1.00
00:01:50.760 because feminists will use that 1.00
00:01:52.000 as an argument.
00:01:52.780 Feminists will use that 1.00
00:01:53.680 as an argument.
00:01:54.320 And they'll say that
00:01:55.820 in order to be a strongly dependent woman. 0.99
00:01:57.500 It's using your primary reproductive years 0.99
00:02:00.220 for a career instead of a family.
00:02:03.600 It's not to say you can never have a career.
00:02:06.520 It's saying...
00:02:07.340 It's about prioritizing, isn't it?
00:02:08.240 Yeah.
00:02:08.460 I mean, yeah.
00:02:09.460 Yeah, it's about family
00:02:10.820 before your career.
00:02:12.260 Feminism pushes career 1.00
00:02:13.680 before your family.
00:02:15.060 I'd say it more pushes women against men. 0.98
00:02:17.920 I mean, it does that too.
00:02:19.260 Yeah, that's what I feel we're doing.
00:02:20.880 Yeah, and that's...
00:02:21.460 Your business sounds really interesting as well
00:02:23.740 because it's really good to be pro-women.
00:02:25.700 If you look at the birth rate,
00:02:27.680 it's negative to...
00:02:30.120 When women get more educated, 0.99
00:02:31.360 they have less kids.
00:02:32.740 So it's like a direct correlate.
00:02:34.560 Like, if you look at the...
00:02:35.780 Like, the more educated a woman is, 1.00
00:02:37.140 the less kids she has. 1.00
00:02:40.740 So that's why I say it's part of feminism 1.00
00:02:42.260 because they wanted to...
00:02:43.440 Like, they wanted to depopulate everybody.
00:02:45.640 They wanted to stop people
00:02:46.600 having families, more kids.
00:02:48.020 And break down the family unit. 0.99
00:02:49.400 That's why I say I feel Margaret Thatcher
00:02:51.140 was on the feminist side. 1.00
00:02:52.200 Well, she hated feminism 1.00
00:02:53.540 because actually she was very, very...
00:02:55.640 She was married,
00:02:56.660 but she was also a career woman.
00:02:58.500 That's the point,
00:02:59.140 is that she hated feminism 1.00
00:03:00.260 because she was actually very pro
00:03:01.840 this idea of meritocracy and individualism.
00:03:05.000 And I completely agree with you, by the way,
00:03:06.580 in the sense that, yes,
00:03:07.440 feminism did contribute... 1.00
00:03:08.440 I'm going to cut you off
00:03:09.280 because you've been doing it so long.
00:03:10.940 Like, if everyone tries to speak,
00:03:12.260 you cut them off.
00:03:12.900 So I think you need to feel
00:03:14.280 what it feels like.
00:03:15.320 Yeah, but when someone is trying
00:03:17.120 to get the point across,
00:03:18.060 let them speak and you can respond.
00:03:19.520 Everyone is going to get a chance
00:03:20.420 to speak, please.
00:03:21.360 Sorry.
00:03:22.160 My prolies.
00:03:23.660 It's because I'm stimulated.
00:03:25.140 That's why.
00:03:26.820 It's a very interesting conversation.
00:03:27.860 I want to kind of point
00:03:30.080 to the dark horse in the room.
00:03:31.840 You know, like,
00:03:32.140 there's also a problem with men.
00:03:33.980 A big problem, right?
00:03:35.060 Like, what is it?
00:03:36.100 40 years ago.
00:03:37.040 So for the last 40 years,
00:03:38.780 the average testosterone levels
00:03:40.240 in men have been declining
00:03:41.020 by 1% a year.
00:03:42.260 So we have 40% less testosterone
00:03:44.480 as men, you know, per capita
00:03:47.260 than our fathers did,
00:03:49.300 which is frightening.
00:03:50.940 And that's not nothing, you know?
00:03:52.300 It's like, because I think about it,
00:03:53.340 like, okay,
00:03:53.600 I'm not going to tell a woman, 1.00
00:03:55.200 you know, or women how to behave. 1.00
00:03:57.620 It's not, you know, I'm not,
00:03:58.540 I can't, I don't have agency over that.
00:04:00.800 Maybe I have some ideas,
00:04:01.780 but like, nobody's going
00:04:02.700 to take that seriously.
00:04:04.160 But, but like, as a man,
00:04:05.740 you know, and I'm lucky,
00:04:06.960 first of all,
00:04:07.420 that I was growing up
00:04:08.100 like 20 years ago, not now,
00:04:09.900 because today it's like much worse,
00:04:11.480 but I saw it happening 20 years ago.
00:04:13.460 And so when I talk to young dudes
00:04:15.100 and I'm very passionate
00:04:15.920 about mentoring young men,
00:04:16.920 because a lot of our company
00:04:18.260 we have young women
00:04:18.760 and young men that we hire.
00:04:19.720 And a big part of it is like,
00:04:22.540 yes, men are happy
00:04:23.600 having a crappy deal right now,
00:04:25.220 but a lot of women 1.00
00:04:25.920 are having a crappy deal too.
00:04:27.320 Like men suck right now.
00:04:29.020 Like they do.
00:04:29.620 Like, and I'm not saying like,
00:04:30.540 I'm like, you know,
00:04:31.160 I'm like Hercules, whatever.
00:04:32.540 Like, that's not the point
00:04:33.800 because I know I'm going to get attacked
00:04:34.920 for saying men suck.
00:04:35.700 But yeah, like the average guy sucks.
00:04:37.220 I mean, they've been raised
00:04:38.620 like women for 50 years. 0.98
00:04:40.740 They've been, I mean,
00:04:41.180 it's from, it's from school.
00:04:43.180 No, we see, we see,
00:04:43.920 we see how it is,
00:04:44.540 but it's like, it's like,
00:04:45.360 there's a couple of things.
00:04:46.120 Like number one,
00:04:46.840 like if your wife is like 1.00
00:04:48.820 making you do the dishes,
00:04:49.820 it's because you're not
00:04:50.400 making enough money.
00:04:51.120 Like I said this before and again,
00:04:52.460 like men need to man up
00:04:53.800 and learn how to do hard things
00:04:54.760 they don't want to do
00:04:55.400 in order to get results they want,
00:04:56.820 not the methods they like.
00:04:58.180 Because it's like LeBron James' wife
00:04:59.740 is like, LeBron,
00:05:00.520 you're never home to do the dishes.
00:05:01.820 It's like, that's never come up.
00:05:03.620 He's just like, get a maid, 1.00
00:05:05.440 get three maids. 0.99
00:05:06.160 I don't care, right?
00:05:06.980 So I have a question.
00:05:08.320 So I spoke to some like housewives 1.00
00:05:10.760 in the US
00:05:11.400 and they were telling me
00:05:12.980 you need about $60,000
00:05:15.180 to raise,
00:05:16.640 like she raised four or five kids
00:05:17.980 on $60,000 a year,
00:05:19.740 which I think equates to,
00:05:21.760 I don't know,
00:05:22.300 like 70, 80.
00:05:24.580 In pounds, it's less.
00:05:25.520 It's like $40,000.
00:05:26.060 Oh shit, it's less, $40,000.
00:05:27.180 But the way that she would do it
00:05:28.460 is she said her husband
00:05:29.300 would work in the city
00:05:30.260 and commute,
00:05:30.800 but they would just have
00:05:31.420 a really low standard of living.
00:05:33.160 Right.
00:05:33.660 And like they would just do
00:05:35.360 the hand-me-downs.
00:05:36.740 She would like farm, 0.91
00:05:38.320 like they had chicken,
00:05:39.300 like they just lived
00:05:40.200 a very, very frugal lifestyle.
00:05:42.380 So do you think if a guy
00:05:43.360 makes enough money
00:05:44.440 to live on like basically
00:05:47.760 a low standard of living
00:05:48.940 but still provide for a family,
00:05:50.440 is it then on the women 1.00
00:05:51.320 or the men?
00:05:52.120 Like does he still need
00:05:52.920 to earn more?
00:05:53.560 Well, so that's an interesting question.
00:05:55.020 Like and my philosophy on this
00:05:56.420 is just going to offend everybody
00:05:57.560 and I've said it on the show before
00:05:58.780 and then of course I got a lash,
00:05:59.800 but it's like I retired my wife.
00:06:01.080 She was,
00:06:01.360 and people were like,
00:06:02.120 and I said this
00:06:02.840 and it got taken out of context.
00:06:04.080 I'm going to contextualize it
00:06:05.100 because.
00:06:05.460 I love that.
00:06:06.180 Let me say it.
00:06:06.820 Oh wait, so I'm saying like.
00:06:08.100 I understand what you're saying.
00:06:08.780 So I'm saying you can retire
00:06:10.160 your wife at $60,000 a year
00:06:12.000 in the US.
00:06:12.760 So the problem is not,
00:06:16.020 is not the problem.
00:06:17.140 The problem is that man
00:06:18.160 didn't reach his potential.
00:06:19.280 That's the problem.
00:06:20.140 It's like, dude,
00:06:20.880 if you're raising a family
00:06:21.860 and $60,000 a year,
00:06:23.760 you took some shortcuts
00:06:24.860 and you took the easy way
00:06:25.880 as a man.
00:06:26.360 Like I'm sorry,
00:06:26.840 I know there's a lot of guys
00:06:27.480 watching it.
00:06:27.960 They're not making that money.
00:06:29.060 You can make more money.
00:06:30.380 Like it's a,
00:06:31.460 okay, let's put it this way.
00:06:32.660 Is making money important
00:06:33.820 to the outcome of your life?
00:06:34.760 Is it important
00:06:35.260 to the health of your family?
00:06:36.240 Of course,
00:06:36.660 especially in the States
00:06:37.560 with the health stuff, right?
00:06:38.720 Is it important to the outcome
00:06:40.260 of your children's future?
00:06:41.380 Huge.
00:06:42.060 Like kids from higher income homes 0.78
00:06:43.280 live in better neighborhoods.
00:06:44.220 They go to schools,
00:06:44.860 they get more connected.
00:06:45.640 They have more opportunities in life.
00:06:47.160 And you're like,
00:06:47.840 well, I wasn't born a millionaire.
00:06:49.300 Well, make sure your kids are.
00:06:50.820 So I have another question.
00:06:52.320 When you think of society as a whole,
00:06:54.400 there's jobs that we need to have done
00:06:56.580 that aren't going to make
00:06:57.420 a ton of money.
00:06:58.460 But we like,
00:06:59.040 we need them in society.
00:07:00.480 Like we need bus drivers.
00:07:02.400 We need,
00:07:02.980 I know,
00:07:03.180 I know some of these
00:07:03.840 are going to like vary the income,
00:07:05.140 but like we need plumbers,
00:07:06.500 we need electricians.
00:07:07.740 So when I was like,
00:07:09.260 let me tell you something.
00:07:10.180 This is really cool.
00:07:10.960 So when I was a college student,
00:07:11.920 I went door to door
00:07:12.540 selling encyclopedias,
00:07:13.480 you know that I did it for six years.
00:07:15.260 And eventually,
00:07:16.280 once I gained some confidence
00:07:17.640 and some,
00:07:18.240 let's say,
00:07:18.640 you know,
00:07:19.380 vernacular panache,
00:07:20.420 I decided to knock on doors
00:07:21.620 in wealthy neighborhoods.
00:07:22.460 I'm talking about very,
00:07:23.660 very rich,
00:07:24.280 like multimillion dollar homes,
00:07:25.780 money I had never seen before.
00:07:27.080 I was shocked to find out
00:07:28.320 that I was meeting a lot of plumbers
00:07:29.680 and I was meeting a lot of mechanics.
00:07:31.940 These were like,
00:07:32.780 I was expecting all the wealthy
00:07:34.260 to be doctors.
00:07:35.020 Yeah,
00:07:35.100 that's upper middle class,
00:07:36.060 but upper class,
00:07:37.060 like high net worth
00:07:38.180 and like upper upper middle, 0.75
00:07:39.500 it's like 56% business owners.
00:07:42.260 So,
00:07:42.420 and what kind of businesses do they run?
00:07:44.200 Do they run like cigar businesses?
00:07:45.640 No,
00:07:45.860 they do the crappy work
00:07:46.940 nobody wants to do.
00:07:48.200 I had one of my wealthiest clients,
00:07:49.660 even in our company today,
00:07:50.800 he runs a waste disposal business.
00:07:52.480 I'm not talking about garbage.
00:07:53.620 He cleans up after concerts.
00:07:55.240 You know,
00:07:55.440 those portable toilets
00:07:56.960 they bring in.
00:07:57.980 That's the,
00:07:58.920 that's what he was doing in college
00:08:00.180 is cleaning toilets
00:08:00.980 and he built a business out of it.
00:08:02.320 Right now,
00:08:03.080 of course you're going to say
00:08:03.840 that's not available to everybody
00:08:05.100 and that's scarcity thinking
00:08:06.180 because most people are inflicted
00:08:07.700 with scarcity thinking,
00:08:08.760 but you can actually educate your mind
00:08:12.360 as a man or a woman.
00:08:13.320 You can educate your mind.
00:08:14.560 You can educate.
00:08:15.360 I mean,
00:08:15.580 your dad's an entrepreneur.
00:08:16.480 It's given you a crazy abundant thinking.
00:08:19.260 But I guess,
00:08:19.720 I guess the way I think
00:08:20.780 it's like even my dad's an entrepreneur,
00:08:22.440 but there were people in his company
00:08:24.500 that made around the income
00:08:26.220 we're talking about.
00:08:27.320 because your dad paid them
00:08:28.280 to stop pursuing their goals.
00:08:30.680 But I'm saying like,
00:08:32.340 they still,
00:08:33.360 like that we still need those men.
00:08:35.720 Like,
00:08:35.920 it's not like at some point
00:08:37.100 you still need men 0.99
00:08:37.980 that are doing the average jobs.
00:08:40.160 And so I don't know,
00:08:41.280 like,
00:08:41.680 but that's fine.
00:08:42.580 Yeah,
00:08:43.100 I agree with you.
00:08:44.380 Wait,
00:08:44.960 wait.
00:08:45.240 So I'm asking you,
00:08:46.660 like,
00:08:47.180 in that case,
00:08:48.180 like,
00:08:48.720 do we still have this mindset
00:08:49.900 of like,
00:08:50.300 you need to do more
00:08:51.400 when they're doing a job
00:08:52.720 that we do need in society?
00:08:54.440 I 100% agree with you.
00:08:55.920 I'm just coming at it
00:08:56.860 from the perspective
00:08:57.540 of like,
00:08:57.880 don't be that man.
00:08:58.840 Yeah.
00:08:59.200 Like,
00:08:59.420 I'm sorry.
00:08:59.840 Like,
00:09:00.060 like,
00:09:00.300 if you're that man,
00:09:01.100 like,
00:09:01.280 don't,
00:09:01.560 like,
00:09:01.660 my dad is that guy,
00:09:02.560 right?
00:09:02.720 Like,
00:09:02.900 my dad is almost 70.
00:09:04.460 He's still working
00:09:05.120 in the same job he's been
00:09:05.940 for 35 years,
00:09:07.080 even more.
00:09:07.620 Still the same drive to work.
00:09:08.760 He's,
00:09:08.940 he's a mechanic.
00:09:09.500 He fixes motorhomes,
00:09:10.460 you know?
00:09:11.180 And it's like,
00:09:11.900 it's fine.
00:09:12.500 We do need those men.
00:09:13.700 But,
00:09:14.120 but I'm making an argument
00:09:14.980 to like,
00:09:15.660 to the men
00:09:16.240 that are listening to this
00:09:17.200 is like,
00:09:17.800 guys,
00:09:18.320 don't like,
00:09:19.260 figure out a way.
00:09:20.640 I have a great interview.
00:09:21.640 I filmed with Eddie Hall
00:09:22.380 and I think you should
00:09:23.280 put it on your channel
00:09:24.000 because it's 20 men.
00:09:24.900 You know,
00:09:25.040 Eddie Hall,
00:09:25.380 world's strongest man.
00:09:26.760 And I asked him
00:09:28.020 in this interview,
00:09:28.500 like,
00:09:29.340 what were you like at 18?
00:09:30.320 He's like,
00:09:30.580 I bought my first house
00:09:31.400 at 18.
00:09:31.840 I'm like,
00:09:32.100 what?
00:09:32.400 He goes,
00:09:32.700 I bought my second house
00:09:33.580 at 19.
00:09:34.280 He's not old.
00:09:34.900 He's like in his 30s,
00:09:35.580 right?
00:09:36.180 And he goes,
00:09:36.700 because I watched my dad
00:09:38.360 and he used this line,
00:09:39.480 word for it.
00:09:39.880 He's like,
00:09:40.020 I watched my dad be a lemming, 1.00
00:09:42.040 you know,
00:09:43.140 suffering with dignity,
00:09:44.020 that whole thing.
00:09:44.420 He's like,
00:09:44.660 and I didn't want to be like that.
00:09:45.880 And I knew that I wanted out
00:09:47.180 because I didn't want
00:09:48.000 to live his life.
00:09:49.040 So yes,
00:09:49.380 of course,
00:09:49.760 there's going to be
00:09:50.260 most men like that
00:09:51.180 and most women, 0.98
00:09:51.820 et cetera.
00:09:52.540 And probably they have to
00:09:53.860 make some compromises
00:09:54.740 in their life
00:09:55.380 in order to,
00:09:55.960 you know,
00:09:56.660 adjust their lifestyle.
00:09:57.880 And by the way,
00:09:58.400 there's this whole BS.
00:09:59.460 It's like,
00:10:00.020 back in my,
00:10:00.620 you know,
00:10:00.860 my grandfather's age,
00:10:01.920 you could work a nine
00:10:02.640 to five job
00:10:03.540 and buy a house.
00:10:04.900 It's like,
00:10:05.220 yeah,
00:10:05.420 your granddad bought a house
00:10:06.800 in a city that didn't exist yet.
00:10:08.500 It's like,
00:10:09.120 well,
00:10:09.260 he bought it in New York.
00:10:10.360 It's like two generations ago,
00:10:11.740 New York was not New York today.
00:10:13.100 It was like,
00:10:13.500 it was like,
00:10:14.040 it was a hellhole.
00:10:15.100 It was gross.
00:10:16.120 In fact,
00:10:16.500 one generation ago,
00:10:17.260 nobody wanted to live
00:10:18.120 in New York,
00:10:18.460 right?
00:10:19.220 So it's like,
00:10:19.940 yes,
00:10:20.240 your grandfather bought
00:10:21.180 a house on his income
00:10:21.960 because he took a,
00:10:23.180 I guess the question I have
00:10:25.180 is like,
00:10:25.520 not everybody is going
00:10:26.840 to make a ton of money.
00:10:27.900 And I like,
00:10:28.600 I know in an individual,
00:10:29.520 but I'm looking at it
00:10:30.400 like a society
00:10:31.200 at a society point of view.
00:10:33.240 Like if we look at society
00:10:34.480 as a whole,
00:10:35.180 there's average jobs
00:10:36.380 that people have to fill
00:10:37.540 in for an order
00:10:38.300 for society to run.
00:10:39.860 So if we want families
00:10:41.040 to come together,
00:10:42.120 I guess the question is,
00:10:43.520 should women be more 1.00
00:10:44.500 willing to go down
00:10:45.380 in lifestyle
00:10:45.940 or should men
00:10:46.600 make more money?
00:10:47.180 Actually,
00:10:47.540 it wouldn't happen like that.
00:10:48.420 You know what would happen
00:10:48.920 is if women, 1.00
00:10:49.560 and I'm not saying
00:10:50.140 women should do this, 1.00
00:10:50.980 but less women,
00:10:51.620 you know,
00:10:51.900 like incomes,
00:10:52.640 like nominal incomes
00:10:53.420 got reduced
00:10:54.320 when women entered 0.96
00:10:54.940 the workforce.
00:10:55.380 Now we have twice
00:10:55.980 as much labor available.
00:10:57.020 So obviously the price
00:10:57.660 of labor goes down,
00:10:58.660 right?
00:10:59.340 Back before,
00:11:00.080 you know,
00:11:00.300 back before the,
00:11:01.040 the feminist revolutions,
00:11:02.440 it's like the cost
00:11:03.580 of labor was much higher.
00:11:04.600 So people made more money
00:11:05.560 because only half
00:11:06.980 the workforce was available,
00:11:08.120 right?