JustPearlyThings - May 17, 2023


Boss Babe Gets TRIGGERED By This Question

Topics
love and financial expectations high value man
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Hannah Pearl Davis
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Jenae Tick
Religion Is NOT The Same ANYMORE @JWALLER The Reality About Women And INSTAGRAM

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11 minutes

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2,667

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292

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14

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3

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In this episode, we talk about what it means to be a woman in today's society and why it's important to have a husband who can provide for you and your family. We also talk about how important it is for a woman to be able to support herself and her family, and why she doesn't want to settle for a man who doesn't provide for them.

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00:00:00.000 Don't make more money.
00:00:01.140 And I feel like a man is meant to be, well, if you're married, a provider.
00:00:05.780 Well, not a sole provider, but a provider.
00:00:08.600 And I don't feel like if you're not earning more than me, you could provide for me, like, fully.
00:00:14.300 And if we're buying a house together and I don't like it, I'm not going to, and I am providing basically more, it's going to be more my decision.
00:00:20.280 I think it would be hard for me to submit to someone who isn't basically being able to lead me.
00:00:24.980 You're going to have to be able to lead me.
00:00:26.440 And if you're not earning more than me, it's going to be harder for me to agree or listen to you.
00:00:31.460 It might sound, oh, that's not nice, but that's how I feel.
00:00:34.020 I can't listen to someone that isn't earning more than me.
00:00:37.560 But why is that, though?
00:00:38.500 I'm the opposite.
00:00:39.440 I just feel like it's just because of the way I've been raised.
00:00:42.200 If I, for example, I use my dad, he's always earned, he's always been an earner.
00:00:45.360 He's always been able to look after me and his family.
00:00:47.520 So that's what I see my future husband doing.
00:00:50.660 And if you're not earning more than me, maybe if it's a short period of time, you've lost money or you're down.
00:00:55.220 But I couldn't marry someone that earns less than me.
00:00:58.240 I just couldn't.
00:00:59.160 Because how I see the role of a man in a household, you're meant to be a leader, provider.
00:01:03.680 I just couldn't.
00:01:04.440 I don't understand.
00:01:05.160 But sometimes there's a come up, so they might be low in the beginning.
00:01:08.840 Could you stick by someone that has a good heart and be with them through the come up?
00:01:14.440 To be honest with you, I feel maybe because of my past experiences, where I am now,
00:01:20.420 I don't want to be with someone that's on a come up.
00:01:23.460 I feel like, especially because I have a child and where I want to be in life,
00:01:28.480 I don't want someone that's on the come up.
00:01:30.220 Maybe a few years ago, it was fine.
00:01:32.360 But where I am now, I want you to be at least a certain level earning a certain amount of money consistently.
00:01:37.340 I don't want to have to raise you or support you consistently.
00:01:41.140 How much money is it?
00:01:42.560 How much money?
00:01:43.100 Do you know what?
00:01:43.720 It doesn't have to be a large amount of money because I'm not like, what's the word?
00:01:48.280 High maintenance or.
00:01:49.480 Let me Google, hold on.
00:01:50.500 Yeah.
00:01:51.340 It just.
00:01:52.140 Average, average salary UK.
00:01:56.040 Okay.
00:01:56.820 I feel like someone just be able to live, maintain, be able to go out on events and do things.
00:02:02.260 It doesn't have to be crazy, but as long as you're.
00:02:04.200 London, £41,000.
00:02:06.280 If he earns that.
00:02:07.400 Yeah, that's the average.
00:02:08.140 It says the average yearly wage for full-time workers in London in 2022, according to status.
00:02:14.400 Yeah, I think that would be fine for me.
00:02:15.780 I don't, you don't have to be a millionaire or a billionaire.
00:02:17.780 No way.
00:02:18.560 You just have to be able to support yourself so that we can rise together.
00:02:22.680 I don't want someone that's down and then I have to pull you up because I've got a child.
00:02:25.680 I don't have time to be pulling up everyone.
00:02:27.160 Then there's rebuttal is what are you bringing to the table?
00:02:30.040 What am I bringing to the table?
00:02:31.280 Why?
00:02:31.760 I don't get what it's all.
00:02:33.540 Well, I'm bringing myself.
00:02:36.080 I'm bringing everything I can do.
00:02:37.960 Yeah, but yeah, I bring a lot to the table.
00:02:39.980 Why do you hate the question?
00:02:41.160 I hate that question.
00:02:42.240 You don't think if you're interviewing for a job, you have to show them your resume and your money experience?
00:02:47.540 Yeah, of course.
00:02:48.420 But I feel like when men ask that question, I feel like we should be asking you, what are you bringing to the table?
00:02:57.700 Money.
00:02:57.980 Because I've...
00:02:59.180 41 bags.
00:03:00.380 You know what's crazy?
00:03:01.080 Yeah, but you're forgetting, a woman is going to, first of all, she's going to make your house a home. 1.00
00:03:09.260 She is going to raise your kids. 0.93
00:03:11.540 Do you think most modern women can make a house a home? 1.00
00:03:14.280 Do most modern women have recipes from scratch? 1.00
00:03:16.760 No.
00:03:17.380 Modern women that have old school morals. 1.00
00:03:19.300 Tick-tock.
00:03:20.980 Not necessarily.
00:03:23.520 Not necessarily, but what I mean is she is going to make your house feel like a home.
00:03:28.680 She is going to be there for you.
00:03:30.360 How does she do that specifically? 1.00
00:03:32.100 Well, you would do duties around the house, would you not?
00:03:34.900 But a maid can do that. 1.00
00:03:35.440 But not every woman does that now. 1.00
00:03:37.400 It's a certain type of woman you're talking about. 1.00
00:03:38.860 So, like, what does she bring to the table that a hooker, a cook, and a cleaner can't do? 1.00
00:03:43.540 But she's going to be providing you with support, emotional support.
00:03:47.040 But I just think when men hear this, it's like we're saying nothing.
00:03:50.680 Oh, okay.
00:03:51.240 It's like not specific as, I can do this, I have this skill, this, this, and this.
00:03:56.420 My mama can do that. 1.00
00:03:57.960 Do you know what it is?
00:03:58.940 Obviously, you know my sexuality.
00:04:01.420 And my role is basically like the male role.
00:04:03.900 So, that's why I'm just asking these little ones and twos to throw you off.
00:04:08.220 But also to get a better understanding.
00:04:11.240 But I'm not really hearing, it's not matching up to the 41 grand that I'm bringing to the table.
00:04:15.680 I don't get why everything's always centred around finances.
00:04:18.820 I understand you need money to survive.
00:04:20.620 But I don't understand where women have the high expectations of expecting a man to have so much money to get with him. 0.99
00:04:26.360 Like, how can, I thought, like, if you love someone, it's based on love.
00:04:29.920 Like, not just based on what you can pick.
00:04:32.560 Like, it's like you can tick all these boxes.
00:04:34.440 But where's the love in that?
00:04:35.980 Don't get it?
00:04:36.400 One thing I realised from being in a relationship, love is not enough.
00:04:39.120 Love is not enough.
00:04:39.520 So, you can have love.
00:04:40.240 Love is not enough.
00:04:42.020 It's great to be in love.
00:04:43.420 But it's not enough.
00:04:43.980 I disagree.
00:04:44.120 Love is everything.
00:04:44.940 Peace and love is life.
00:04:47.080 Okay.
00:04:47.620 We can say that.
00:04:48.280 A man wants peace.
00:04:49.460 When you think about it.
00:04:49.960 And he wants love.
00:04:50.620 You can be in love with someone.
00:04:51.640 Love them dearly.
00:04:52.500 But when the bills come, is that love going to pay the bills?
00:04:54.720 You need to lower your maintenance then?
00:04:56.520 Yeah, you can lower your maintenance.
00:04:57.580 Because you've got high expectations.
00:04:58.440 You should be providing for yourself then.
00:05:00.600 You can't expect the man to do that.
00:05:01.960 For example, okay, you live together.
00:05:05.580 There are certain things that a woman may pay. 1.00
00:05:07.580 And there are certain things that a man may pay.
00:05:09.760 You both work.
00:05:11.300 Love is not going to pay those bills.
00:05:12.660 Love is not going to keep you warm at night.
00:05:14.000 But you endure when you survive the life of a household together.
00:05:17.020 You survive.
00:05:17.700 That's how it works.
00:05:18.280 And you become accustomed to the wealth that you make in your household.
00:05:20.800 I get that.
00:05:21.760 But that's not the way I would want to live my life.
00:05:24.220 I want to be able to enjoy.
00:05:26.400 I want to be in love and be able to say, okay.
00:05:28.900 So if your man makes more than you, why is he expected to make more and you make less and you both live the same life?
00:05:35.960 He doesn't have to make more.
00:05:37.140 You just said he has to make more, didn't you?
00:05:39.060 No, no, no.
00:05:39.460 I didn't say he has to make more.
00:05:40.400 I said if I made more, I wouldn't be able to submit to him.
00:05:43.760 So that means he's going to make more.
00:05:44.800 So he has to make more?
00:05:45.960 We could make the same amount.
00:05:47.200 We'd be happy with the same amount.
00:05:48.320 Yeah, I would be happy with the same amount, but I find, I know if he makes less than me, it would be harder for me to submit.
00:05:54.800 Why is that?
00:05:55.320 Because I just, that's how I see it.
00:05:57.480 I can't even put a nail on it, but I know if a man made less than me.
00:06:00.300 Do you think society has a role to play in that?
00:06:02.280 That finance has taken its toll?
00:06:03.880 100%.
00:06:04.280 100%.
00:06:05.360 I'm probably by the way I've been raised.
00:06:06.940 Yeah.
00:06:07.260 Pardon me?
00:06:07.840 Do you think society has taken a toll on how you love someone?
00:06:11.840 Because it's supposed to be love.
00:06:13.120 Yeah.
00:06:13.640 No, I think it's just the way I see love.
00:06:16.080 I feel like love is not enough.
00:06:17.720 Maybe my past relationship.
00:06:18.560 So you think love is based on material then basically?
00:06:20.120 No, what I think love is, is you can love someone, but maybe, what can I say?
00:06:24.560 So say you was with a man and he was rich and then he went broke, would you stay with him?
00:06:28.920 100%.
00:06:29.320 What's the difference then if the roles are reversed?
00:06:31.880 The difference is because you've gone broke.
00:06:33.960 I didn't meet you broke.
00:06:34.680 So why can't you help somebody get rich if you can help them stay broke?
00:06:37.660 Because it's a mentality thing.
00:06:39.500 If he could get rich in the first place, then I know in my heart he can get rich again.
00:06:43.700 I believe, I believe a good person, I believe in his mentality.
00:06:46.920 Do you know what it is?
00:06:47.560 Personally, I get what you're trying to say.
00:06:48.860 A good person can see potential in somebody if I'm nothing.
00:06:51.560 The problem is if I speak from my personal experiences, I'm always the one seeing potential in people.
00:06:56.120 And always trying to stick by them.
00:06:56.820 Maybe there's something that you should look within yourself that might need fixing and choosing a partner then.
00:07:00.800 Maybe it's not the man.
00:07:01.760 Do you know what it is?
00:07:02.440 Maybe it is.
00:07:03.480 But that's why I've made a decision to say I'm not looking, I'm not going to go with somebody that is.
00:07:07.720 I'm not going to look at anyone's potential anymore because we can see potential for days.
00:07:11.020 It doesn't mean that they're going to reach that.
00:07:12.460 So what I've learned is I now want to be with someone or get to date someone that is at a certain stage that I can say,
00:07:18.460 okay, you're not at your pulling up stage.
00:07:20.100 I don't have to pull you up.
00:07:21.180 I think that's very unfair on men.
00:07:23.220 Well, maybe that is.
00:07:24.560 But that's my opinion.
00:07:25.440 That's where I am now.
00:07:26.260 I've given people chances, pulled them up.
00:07:28.880 So you want a high value man, basically?
00:07:31.000 I wouldn't say high value, but someone that is at a...
00:07:33.000 Yeah, high value.
00:07:33.800 Oh, yeah, we could say high value.
00:07:34.940 Yes, it's a high value.
00:07:35.740 Well, you've got a child as well, then, you know?
00:07:37.620 Just so you guys know.
00:07:38.320 A child as well.
00:07:39.700 If we're going to use that term, it's 10K a month.
00:07:41.780 That's high value.
00:07:42.800 I'm just saying.
00:07:43.860 Well, I wouldn't say high value.
00:07:45.200 I just want someone that is able to pay their bills, feed themselves.
00:07:49.040 Okay, so what if a guy ticked all them boxes and emotionally you don't feel nothing,
00:07:53.640 but besides that, he's absolutely perfect.
00:07:55.940 Would you stay with him?
00:07:56.380 I don't like him.
00:07:57.380 There's no emotional connection.
00:07:58.460 There's no love there.
00:07:59.120 You said love isn't what it used to be.
00:08:01.100 No, I said love isn't enough.
00:08:02.520 So I can love someone, but everything else has to be respectful.
00:08:05.740 You have to have family values.
00:08:07.000 Just say you ticked all them boxes, but you love them a little bit.
00:08:11.820 Love is important.
00:08:13.560 If you ticked all them boxes, what?
00:08:14.840 Say that question one more time.
00:08:16.140 If a man ticked all the boxes and you loved him a little bit, is that good enough?
00:08:22.340 No.
00:08:23.360 Okay.
00:08:23.720 No, it's not.
00:08:24.760 I agree with you.
00:08:26.280 Sorry.
00:08:26.960 Do you think there's a minimum?
00:08:28.680 Like a guy has to have a job, right?
00:08:30.760 Okay, yeah.
00:08:31.540 Yeah.
00:08:31.780 I mean, I think it's dishonest when we say it's all about love.
00:08:35.140 Because I think at some point, if a guy's unemployed for five years, you're probably going to leave.
00:08:39.740 I think it's about the mentality of a person.
00:08:42.080 So like if somebody's broke, say I met someone and he's broke, but he's got the right mentality to conquer the world.
00:08:48.700 Then by all means, I can support him and I can help him.
00:08:51.020 I'm happy to do that.
00:08:52.500 No, I agree with you.
00:08:53.660 It's about mentality.
00:08:54.640 But I just think when we're asking these questions, it's like, what is the minimum?
00:08:58.700 I don't have a minimum.
00:08:59.600 If I like somebody and I believe in them, then they've got my support.
00:09:04.020 But how long are you believing in them until they like?
00:09:07.420 As long as I think it's difficult.
00:09:09.400 Say I have money and the man doesn't have any money.
00:09:12.320 If he can respect my values and believe that I'm putting him in positions to help him, then I'll support him.
00:09:18.020 But for how long?
00:09:18.280 If he's getting up every day at six in the morning and he's trying and trying, you can't fault somebody like that.
00:09:24.160 Because we're all from different places.
00:09:25.300 But for how long?
00:09:26.880 And there's no job five years later.
00:09:28.880 But I think I've got a whole different perspective of life because of my lifestyle and how I've been brought up.
00:09:35.660 What's different about your lifestyle?
00:09:37.460 Everything.
00:09:38.160 I think my life's upbringing experience is completely different to a lot of people.
00:09:42.840 How so?
00:09:43.680 I don't really want to dig too deep on here, if I'm being honest.
00:09:46.240 But I just do believe that my circumstances are quite unique.
00:09:50.920 I just don't think money is everything.
00:09:52.720 So what would it take for you not to believe in him anymore?
00:09:55.200 For you to say, okay, cool.
00:09:56.220 My first perspective of this man was wrong.
00:09:59.640 And he's actually like, not a bum, sorry. 0.98
00:10:03.620 If he's behaving like a bum, then obviously that's a huge red flag that he doesn't really want to change his life. 0.99
00:10:09.320 He's quite happy being mediocre. 0.96
00:10:11.120 So, yeah.
00:10:12.100 So that's when you'll leave, when you realise his true mentality.
00:10:15.700 Yeah, but I haven't ever encountered a situation like that to say I'm going like I'd...
00:10:21.400 Okay.
00:10:22.440 What were you going to say?
00:10:23.680 You had something to say earlier.
00:10:24.680 Yeah, I just agree with you.
00:10:27.700 Sorry, I forgot your lovely name.
00:10:29.160 Jenae.
00:10:29.700 I agree with you.
00:10:31.020 And I feel like what you were trying to say was, yes, your love is...
00:10:36.120 You love someone, but it's, as a woman, it's conditional. 1.00
00:10:40.740 And I'm going to be honest, as a woman, like my love is conditional.
00:10:44.620 Yes, I can love you.
00:10:45.920 And yes, I can have these amazing, beautiful memories with you.
00:10:49.300 But if you are not bringing those qualities that I want and you are not going to contribute to the life that I want for myself, then that love is not enough for me.
00:11:02.780 It's not enough for me.
00:11:04.380 And if I'm honest with you, I'm not really looking to be with someone and do the whole struggle love thing.
00:11:10.420 I'll be honest, I'm not.
00:11:12.260 I'll agree.
00:11:12.760 Yes, you have dreams, but it's not my job to sit here and motivate you and be holding your hand.
00:11:18.940 While you're doing it, I'm not looking for a project.
00:11:21.580 I'm looking for someone who is established because I feel like as a high value woman, I am allowed to seek a high value man, especially because I know what I bring to the table. 0.60
00:11:31.660 So I want someone to match that.
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