JustPearlyThings - December 24, 2022


Brittany Renner On Why She deserves SHAME

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In this episode, I sit down with one of the most notorious people in the manosphere, EJ Academics. We talk about his origin story, how he became a villain, and how he got his nickname, "The Villain."

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00:00:00.000 You are one of the most notorious people in the manosphere, and I think that I kind of represent the average viewer that knows a bit about you, but not the whole story.
00:00:13.960 So I was hoping to start from the beginning.
00:00:17.580 How did this reputation come about, and do you feel like it is deserved?
00:00:23.200 I do feel that it's deserved because what I've come to understand is that I have misrepresented myself for a very long time.
00:00:32.740 And I would say that my villain origin story was I had first moved to L.A. in 2014, was linking up with someone after my breakup with a guy I was with for four years.
00:00:48.060 And TMZ put out an article and claimed that I said I was pregnant by Colin Kaepernick, right?
00:00:55.780 Wait, okay, so you were with a guy for four years?
00:00:58.000 From high school.
00:00:59.600 From college.
00:01:00.440 From college.
00:01:01.080 And you said 18?
00:01:03.480 18 what?
00:01:04.280 You moved at 18.
00:01:05.680 I moved to L.A. in 2014.
00:01:07.940 Oh, 2014.
00:01:08.500 14, yes.
00:01:09.100 Okay, and how old were you?
00:01:10.280 I think maybe 21, 22.
00:01:12.300 Okay, 21, 22.
00:01:13.340 And you were dating Colin Kaepernick at the time?
00:01:15.780 I wouldn't.
00:01:16.620 Hooking up?
00:01:18.580 Whatever.
00:01:19.360 Lincoln?
00:01:19.540 Lincoln.
00:01:20.240 Let's just say Lincoln.
00:01:21.040 Sneaky Lincoln?
00:01:21.980 At the time.
00:01:24.460 And with that, they had photoshopped a picture.
00:01:31.020 I had posted him for my Man Crush Monday.
00:01:33.240 This was Instagram a long time ago when there was Woman Crush Wednesdays, Man Crush Monday.
00:01:37.080 I remember those.
00:01:37.440 You remember that?
00:01:37.940 Yeah, okay.
00:01:38.900 So I had posted him and I put perfection and then I added him.
00:01:43.360 And again, why I posted on my Instagram?
00:01:45.420 Great question.
00:01:46.680 But someone had photoshopped the image, media takeout.
00:01:50.120 I don't know if you ever heard of them, but they had posted it and then TMZ ran the story.
00:01:54.020 And I felt like from that moment on, I was labeled a villain.
00:01:59.660 And you have to understand, I was in a relationship for four years.
00:02:02.800 Like most people know the white guy that I used to date.
00:02:05.960 We used to post together.
00:02:07.020 He's the reason I got into fitness.
00:02:08.300 And I was already labeled a villain, a whore, and was accused of something that I didn't do.
00:02:17.060 And so what did you not do? 0.93
00:02:19.120 So I had put perfection at his username and they photoshopped it to say preggers at his username.
00:02:26.800 So they were like, oh, this girl claims that she's... 0.90
00:02:29.680 They were saying that you claimed that you were...
00:02:32.020 Yes.
00:02:32.380 And I actually looked it up.
00:02:34.140 I have a screenshot too.
00:02:35.220 I looked it up last night to see if the article was still up and it's still up.
00:02:38.000 So at that moment in time, I realized that even though by per society standards, I was someone
00:02:45.700 who, you know, low body count.
00:02:47.800 I had not talked to any famous guy.
00:02:49.820 I'd never been around.
00:02:50.660 I had a big following.
00:02:52.240 An ideal situation, right? 1.00
00:02:54.100 Starting out in Hollywood, already labeled a whore, a liar, a gold digger. 0.99
00:02:59.420 So when I think about how my origin story began, like my villain origin story, it was that. 0.93
00:03:04.280 Because it's like, I haven't even done anything and I'm already misunderstood.
00:03:08.880 So I think as time progressed, I really just tried to fake it till I could make it.
00:03:15.240 And inside, I never, like, especially in high school, like growing up, I never felt like
00:03:20.100 I was just top tier beautiful because I just wasn't, you know, I was growing into myself.
00:03:24.720 I always had really bad skin, over fried my hair, always wearing extensions, never feeling
00:03:29.700 pretty as even my natural self, like where I am now.
00:03:32.120 Um, so how I started even like posting videos and having, and being maybe like overly sexual 0.98
00:03:39.600 was because I was like, I want to feel like this bad bitch. 0.76
00:03:43.760 So, okay, I've only seen like clips of you. 0.99
00:03:45.900 I've seen a couple car rants.
00:03:47.480 Okay.
00:03:47.680 Okay.
00:03:47.900 So I'm just going to give you, seen a couple car rants.
00:03:49.860 I know you released a book.
00:03:51.520 Yeah, in 2018.
00:03:52.280 Yeah.
00:03:52.560 And I know that, um, I saw the stuff you did with Fresh and Fit, EJ Academics, like this
00:03:58.680 little interviews here and there.
00:04:00.140 So when we go back to 20, you said 2014, when you're in LA, so then did you start dating
00:04:07.080 Kaepernick?
00:04:08.180 Um, I would just say that I started like dating period.
00:04:11.660 Like I kind of just opened it up.
00:04:13.340 It's not like we were exclusive, whatever.
00:04:15.260 Um, so I would say that the, the villain came about was, I never, I was a small town girl
00:04:22.880 from Mississippi, like to even be in certain rooms with people where it was unheard of.
00:04:28.380 I never thought these, these guys would even know I existed.
00:04:31.360 So I felt like there was still that like starry eyed element where I didn't know what I was
00:04:37.100 doing.
00:04:37.360 I felt like I had been like thrown into Disney world, so to speak.
00:04:40.520 Right.
00:04:40.760 Like the world is at your fingertips.
00:04:42.640 And again, all of these high value men are now seeking you.
00:04:47.020 And again, I'm a girl from Ocean Springs, Mississippi.
00:04:49.040 People don't even probably know where that is.
00:04:50.720 Um, so I think that's where over sexualizing myself and really pitching into that. 0.96
00:04:56.440 That's like the whole bad bitch, like wanting to feel like something I didn't. 0.99
00:05:00.160 So were you, were you sleeping with a lot of these guys and then like posting stuff on 0.99
00:05:04.920 social media?
00:05:06.000 Okay.
00:05:06.140 No, actually, I, like I said, besides that post where I had, you know, made him my man
00:05:11.080 crush Monday, I didn't even say that we were dating.
00:05:13.380 You know, I never, it's not like I was like, Hey, look at me.
00:05:15.940 Here I am at a game or here I am at his house.
00:05:17.960 It wasn't that it was just, that's how everything started out.
00:05:21.220 Okay.
00:05:21.420 So I'm just trying to understand because there's one, one article that's a one-off, right?
00:05:25.200 Yeah.
00:05:25.420 Like, you know, I, you can kind of recover from one article in my opinion anyway.
00:05:30.160 But there, there was more that happened in between.
00:05:32.920 What happened next?
00:05:35.320 I, well, I mean, cause I'm saying this because this is literally on like TMZ.
00:05:40.640 So after that, um, when I was talking to him, I kind of moved on cause I'm like, whatever
00:05:46.960 you're robotic, we move on.
00:05:48.500 Um, kind of got caught up with Trey Songz.
00:05:54.320 TMZ was like asking him questions about, cause like my fitness group was like the Fit Thick
00:05:58.780 Army.
00:05:59.100 So then I was linked to him.
00:06:01.820 Right.
00:06:02.320 So then that's kind of where it just started to, so then you started, it wouldn't work out.
00:06:07.160 I would move on.
00:06:08.060 Okay.
00:06:08.420 And then, yeah, like I, I, especially when I first got on social media, it was a different
00:06:13.000 place.
00:06:13.460 Right.
00:06:14.320 Um, early twenties guys from all over.
00:06:19.300 I mean, it was just, I would entertain one at a time though.
00:06:21.920 That was like my thing.
00:06:22.620 So I was like, when I'm done with you, I'm going to move on.
00:06:24.120 And then it just became so unsuccessful relationships.
00:06:27.840 And I moved on.
00:06:28.840 Okay.
00:06:29.840 So it was just like, you were linked with rapper entertainer.
00:06:32.840 A lot of my show was public and I, and I feel like that's where a lot of people are like, 0.61
00:06:37.840 she's a whore, but it's like, there's articles where someone took a picture of me at the movie 0.90
00:06:42.420 theater with a guy that's out of my control. 0.99
00:06:45.340 So I would say now, um, you know, when you've kind of figured out how the world works, you
00:06:52.540 try to be a bit more mindful about who you even step out with, but you can't control if
00:06:57.020 people take pictures of you.
00:06:58.100 That's.
00:06:58.600 Were you posting any of these guys yourself?
00:07:00.600 So you never posted them yourself?
00:07:01.500 No, because we weren't, we weren't exclusive.
00:07:03.280 Right.
00:07:03.780 You know what I mean?
00:07:04.300 Like I'm going to post somebody.
00:07:05.460 That's my man.
00:07:06.120 Again, I'm a 21, 22 year old posted that man crush Monday.
00:07:09.000 That's obviously very childish.
00:07:10.180 Right.
00:07:10.580 Okay.
00:07:11.580 But all these other guys, they did not, I didn't post them on my page.
00:07:15.580 So, and so then basically, um, because you were linked to all these different guys publicly
00:07:20.580 publicly there.
00:07:21.580 Now that's when the reputation started.
00:07:24.580 Yes.
00:07:25.580 Then.
00:07:26.580 So this is, this is where, so then the book camps tell me 2018.
00:07:31.580 Yep.
00:07:32.580 And from what I know, I haven't read the book.
00:07:33.580 Okay.
00:07:34.580 What I know of the book is that you basically exposed a lot of people in the book.
00:07:41.060 This is just what, what I heard.
00:07:43.580 Yeah.
00:07:44.580 You, basically all the stuff you'd been doing, you put in the book and while you might not
00:07:50.340 have said their names exactly, it was pretty easy for people to figure out who they were.
00:07:54.580 Okay.
00:07:55.580 Well, I didn't expose anyone.
00:07:57.580 So my book was like a 25 year old memoir basically.
00:08:02.580 And I didn't list all of these sexapades.
00:08:05.580 So there were seven, seven people, fake names, um, seven relationships, like situationships,
00:08:13.580 whatever you want to call them and what I learned from that.
00:08:16.580 So there was a lot of, my book was about sharing my story and being accountable.
00:08:21.580 The most like salacious stories or sexapades, they weren't even in there because it wasn't
00:08:26.580 a lot of these guys.
00:08:27.580 It was a pivotal half you want.
00:08:29.580 I'm sorry.
00:08:30.580 I said, you can tell them now if you want.
00:08:31.580 Yeah.
00:08:32.580 I mean, I'm just kidding.
00:08:33.580 Yes.
00:08:34.580 I mean, it's just kind of like, that was never my intention.
00:08:36.580 My book never had ill intent.
00:08:37.580 Now, again, I know the salacious marketing was intentional because I knew people were thinking
00:08:43.580 I'm going to, it's like, it's like a thumbnail.
00:08:44.580 Yeah.
00:08:45.580 Like, yeah, it's a, it's clickbait.
00:08:46.580 Like, yeah, look at all of these guys are in here.
00:08:48.580 Yeah.
00:08:49.580 I read the book, but when people actually read it, any person who has read my book is
00:08:52.580 like, wait, this is completely different than how you pitched it.
00:08:56.580 And it really is a book about accountability.
00:08:58.580 So those seven people really helped, were like pivotal moments for me.
00:09:05.580 So again, I took what came with the salacious marketing.
00:09:10.580 And again, misrepresenting myself is just that, right?
00:09:14.580 So you have to accept what comes behind that.
00:09:16.580 So I wanted to sell a book.
00:09:17.580 I had no problem with doing, you know, using my tactics to get copies sold.
00:09:23.580 And what came with that is she's not trustworthy. 1.00
00:09:26.580 She's a whore. 1.00
00:09:27.580 And that's all she cares about is money. 1.00
00:09:29.580 She's just a quick money grab. 1.00
00:09:30.580 Like she's a girl that cannot be trusted. 1.00
00:09:32.580 And I understand that you've never read my book.
00:09:35.580 It's like, what I'm saying doesn't even make sense.
00:09:37.580 Cause like you would actually have to physically read it.
00:09:39.580 That's why the book is called Judge This Cover.
00:09:41.580 You're going to do that anyways.
00:09:42.580 There are people that just took little snippets from each chapter and judge me off of that.
00:09:48.580 You're talking about this guy.
00:09:50.580 I was talking about spitting in his mouth or paying for flights.
00:09:53.580 That was one that was circulating on Twitter.
00:09:55.580 I talked about how I paid for my own flights.
00:09:57.580 So it's like, I'm such a gold digger.
00:09:58.580 Why am I paying for my flights?
00:10:00.580 So there's just things in there that I felt like people did not want to understand me.
00:10:04.580 You didn't open the book. 0.98
00:10:05.580 So your opinion doesn't fucking matter about the book. 0.98
00:10:07.580 Read it and then tell me how you feel about me. 0.98
00:10:09.580 You know, that's kind of how I feel with that.
00:10:11.580 So, so then you write the book.
00:10:12.580 Were any of the people that were in the book mad that you wrote the book?
00:10:16.580 The conversations I've had, because there's maybe like two or two guys in there that I have not spoken to.
00:10:26.580 Right.
00:10:27.580 The other five I've had conversations with since.
00:10:30.580 One of the people I had actually asked me to market them as one of the people in it.
00:10:35.580 They didn't mind that.
00:10:36.580 Other guys in my life, just in general, were asked like why they weren't in it.
00:10:40.580 They were like sad.
00:10:41.580 Right.
00:10:42.580 But most of the guys I had a good relationship with, like we're still cool.
00:10:47.580 So they understood that that was my experience.
00:10:50.580 That was my perspective.
00:10:52.580 And that was that.
00:10:53.580 I mean, there was one chapter I spoke to recently.
00:10:56.580 He, he was like, I was just waiting for you to say my name so I could have sued you for everything.
00:11:01.580 Right.
00:11:02.580 And I'm just like, well, that wasn't my plan.
00:11:03.580 Like I wasn't trying to hurt you.
00:11:05.580 But he was like, I understood your perspective.
00:11:07.580 And I get it.
00:11:08.580 He said, you didn't, you didn't lie in it.
00:11:10.580 So.
00:11:11.580 Okay.
00:11:12.580 So none of the guys had hurt feelings over the book.
00:11:14.580 No.
00:11:15.580 Okay.
00:11:16.580 Well, so that, that seems cause I kind of thought, um, like from what I had heard is
00:11:20.580 that some of the guys maybe weren't happy they were in the book.
00:11:23.580 I'm sure they weren't, but I think the people that weren't happy about it, the two that
00:11:28.580 I'm thinking of in my mind, I just haven't spoken to them.
00:11:31.580 Okay.
00:11:32.580 I did.
00:11:33.580 So, you know, okay.
00:11:34.580 I don't know.
00:11:35.580 I don't know.
00:11:36.580 I don't know.
00:11:37.580 I don't know how they would feel.
00:11:38.580 So you don't think like, cause I'm just thinking this is, I just know how the guys are going
00:11:41.580 to see it.
00:11:42.580 Like you're choosing to publicly link with these people and maybe you didn't want it to be
00:11:46.580 public, but it's like, if you're making a choice to go after the like rappers, athletes,
00:11:51.580 like that sort of thing, of course, people are going to call you a hoe and that's fine. 0.99
00:11:55.580 Yeah.
00:11:56.580 And you know, that's the thing.
00:11:57.580 You don't shy away from that.
00:11:58.580 Yeah.
00:11:59.580 But it goes back to my original question, whether you think it's earned or not, or it's
00:12:02.580 like misrepresenting you or not.
00:12:03.580 Well, I think there's that I have misrepresented myself because again, I bundle of Brittany is
00:12:09.580 like her own.
00:12:10.580 That's like a Frankenstein I have created.
00:12:14.580 Right.
00:12:15.580 And that's like a fraction, even just the time we've spent the past few days together, probably
00:12:18.580 very different than what you've seen online.
00:12:20.580 You know, so that's what I have used to get views and get clicks.
00:12:24.580 And I've realized that I don't have to do that anymore.
00:12:26.580 So that's where the misrepresentation comes in.
00:12:29.580 But again, a hoe and I guess is in this sphere, right, is someone who has sex with multiple 1.00
00:12:35.580 guys. 0.99
00:12:36.580 Okay.
00:12:37.580 Well, then that's not a term I'm going to shy away from. 0.84
00:12:38.580 I've had sex with multiple guys.
00:12:39.580 Now I'm not going to take that word and be like, I'm so unworthy. 1.00
00:12:41.580 I'm a whore. 0.99
00:12:42.580 It just is what it is. 0.99
00:12:43.580 Like, that's how they want to distinguish what category women fall under. 1.00
00:12:47.580 I got no problem with that.
00:12:48.580 That's fine.
00:12:49.580 Okay.
00:12:50.580 As many of you know, I was just banned on TikTok and we are demonetized on a daily basis
00:12:56.580 on this platform.
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