JustPearlyThings - Brittany Renner REVEALS The Truth Behind Her Story

00:00:00.000 What up, guys? Welcome to the Just Pearly Things YouTube channel, and welcome to Sit Downs with Pearl, where I sit down with some guests from my show, and we talk about different stuff. Today, I have a special guest, Brittany Renner.

00:00:16.000 Hi.

00:00:17.000 The man, the woman, the myth, the legend. Welcome to the show.

00:00:23.000 Thank you for having me.

00:00:24.000 Thank you for coming. So, today, we are going to talk about, you are one of the most notorious people in the manosphere.

00:00:36.000 Okay.

00:00:37.000 And I think that I kind of represent that average viewer that knows a bit about you, but not the whole story.

00:00:45.000 Okay.

00:00:46.000 So, I was hoping to start from the beginning. How did this reputation come about? And do you feel like it is deserved?

00:00:55.000 I do feel that it's deserved because what I've come to understand is that I have misrepresented myself for a very long time.

00:01:04.000 And I would say that my villain origin story was I had first moved to L.A. in 2014, was linking up with someone after my breakup with a guy I was with for four years.

00:01:20.000 And TMZ put out an article and claimed that I said I was pregnant by Colin Kaepernick, right?

00:01:27.000 Wait. Okay. So, you were with a guy for four years? That's right.

00:01:30.000 We break up.

00:01:31.000 I'm from college.

00:01:32.000 From college.

00:01:33.000 Yeah.

00:01:34.000 And you said 18?

00:01:35.000 18 what?

00:01:36.000 When you moved at 18?

00:01:37.000 I moved to L.A. in 2014.

00:01:39.000 Oh, 2014.

00:01:40.000 Yes.

00:01:41.000 Okay. And how old were you?

00:01:42.000 I think maybe 21, 22.

00:01:44.000 Okay. 21, 22.

00:01:45.000 And you were dating Colin Kaepernick at the time?

00:01:47.000 I wouldn't…

00:01:48.000 Hooking up?

00:01:49.000 Whatever.

00:01:50.000 Lincoln.

00:01:51.000 Lincoln.

00:01:52.000 I'll just say Lincoln.

00:01:53.000 Sneaky Lincoln.

00:01:54.000 At the time.

00:01:55.000 And…

00:01:56.000 With that, they…

00:02:00.000 They had photoshopped a picture.

00:02:03.000 I had like posted him for like my Man Crush Monday.

00:02:05.000 This was like Instagram a long time ago when there was Woman Crush Wednesdays, Man Crush Monday.

00:02:09.000 I remember those.

00:02:10.000 You remember that?

00:02:11.000 Yeah.

00:02:12.000 So, I had posted him and I put like perfection and then I added him.

00:02:15.000 And again, why post it on Instagram?

00:02:17.000 Great question.

00:02:18.000 But someone had photoshopped the image.

00:02:21.000 Media takeout.

00:02:22.000 I don't know if you ever heard of them.

00:02:23.000 But they had posted it and then TMZ ran the story.

00:02:26.000 And I felt like from that moment on, I was labeled a villain.

00:02:31.000 And you have to understand, I was in a relationship for four years.

00:02:34.000 Like most people know the white guy that I used to date.

00:02:37.000 We used to post together.

00:02:38.000 He's the reason I got into fitness.

00:02:40.000 And I was already labeled a villain. 0.99

00:02:44.000 A whore. 1.00

00:02:45.000 And was accused of something that I didn't do. 0.99

00:02:48.000 And so, what did you not do?

00:02:50.000 So, they were saying you guys…

00:02:51.000 So, I had put perfection at his username.

00:02:54.000 And they photoshopped it to say preggers at his username.

00:02:58.000 So, they were like, this girl claims that she's…

00:03:01.000 They were saying that you claimed that you were…

00:03:03.000 Yes.

00:03:04.000 Okay.

00:03:05.000 And I actually looked it up.

00:03:06.000 I have a screenshot too.

00:03:07.000 I looked it up last night to see if the article was still up.

00:03:09.000 And it's still up.

00:03:10.000 So, at that moment in time, I realized that even though by…

00:03:15.000 Per society standards, I was someone who, you know…

00:03:18.000 Low body count.

00:03:19.000 I had not talked to any famous guy.

00:03:21.000 Never been around.

00:03:22.000 I had a big following.

00:03:24.000 An ideal situation, right?

00:03:26.000 Starting out in Hollywood. 0.99

00:03:27.000 Already labeled a whore. 1.00

00:03:29.000 A liar. 1.00

00:03:30.000 A gold digger. 1.00

00:03:31.000 So, I…

00:03:32.000 When I think about how my origin story began.

00:03:34.000 Like my villain origin story.

00:03:35.000 It was that.

00:03:36.000 It was like, I haven't even done anything.

00:03:38.000 And I'm already misunderstood.

00:03:40.000 So, I think as time progressed, I really just tried to fake it till I could make it.

00:03:47.000 And inside, I never…

00:03:49.000 Like, especially in high school, like growing up, I never felt like I was just top tier beautiful.

00:03:54.000 Because I just wasn't.

00:03:55.000 You know?

00:03:56.000 I was growing into myself.

00:03:57.000 I always had really bad skin.

00:03:59.000 Over fried my hair.

00:04:00.000 Always wearing extensions.

00:04:01.000 Never feeling pretty as even my natural self, like where I am now.

00:04:05.000 So, how I started even like posting videos and having… and being maybe like overly sexual 0.98

00:04:12.000 was because I was like, I want to feel like this bad bitch. 0.98

00:04:15.000 So, okay. 0.99

00:04:16.000 I've only seen like clips of you.

00:04:17.000 Okay.

00:04:18.000 I've seen a couple car rants.

00:04:19.000 Okay.

00:04:20.000 So, I'm just going to be…

00:04:21.000 Seen a couple car rants.

00:04:22.000 I know you released a book.

00:04:23.000 Yeah, in 2018.

00:04:24.000 Yeah.

00:04:25.000 And I know that…

00:04:26.000 I saw the stuff you did with Fresh and Fit, EJ Academics.

00:04:30.000 Like, there's little interviews here and there.

00:04:32.000 Yeah.

00:04:33.000 So, when we go back to 20… you said 2014.

00:04:36.000 Yes, 2014.

00:04:37.000 When you're in LA.

00:04:38.000 So, then did you start dating Kaepernick?

00:04:40.000 I would just say that I started like dating period.

00:04:43.000 Like, I kind of just opened it up.

00:04:45.000 It's not like we were exclusive.

00:04:46.000 Whatever.

00:04:47.000 So, I would say that the villain came about was…

00:04:53.000 I was a small town girl from Mississippi.

00:04:55.000 Like, to even be in certain rooms with people were… it was unheard of.

00:05:00.000 I never thought these guys would even know I existed.

00:05:03.000 So, I felt like there was still that like starry-eyed element where I didn't know what I was doing.

00:05:09.000 I felt like I had been like thrown into Disney World, so to speak.

00:05:12.000 Right?

00:05:13.000 Like, the world is at your fingertips and again, all these high value men are now seeking you.

00:05:19.000 And again, I'm a girl from Ocean Springs, Mississippi.

00:05:21.000 People don't even probably know where that is.

00:05:23.000 So, I think that's where over-sexualizing myself and really pitching into that. 0.96

00:05:28.000 That's like the whole bad bitch like wanting to feel like something I didn't… 1.00

00:05:32.000 So, were you sleeping with a lot of these guys and then like posting stuff on social media? 0.99

00:05:37.000 No.

00:05:38.000 Okay.

00:05:39.000 No.

00:05:40.000 Besides that post where I had, you know, made him my man crush Monday, I didn't even say that we were dating.

00:05:45.000 You know, I never… it's not like I was like, hey, look at me.

00:05:48.000 Here I am at a game or here I am at his house.

00:05:50.000 It wasn't that.

00:05:51.000 It was just that's how everything started out.

00:05:53.000 Okay.

00:05:54.000 So, I'm just trying to understand because there's one article that's a one-off, right?

00:05:57.000 Yeah.

00:05:58.000 You know, you can kind of recover from one article, in my opinion anyway.

00:06:02.000 But there was more that happened in between.

00:06:04.000 Yeah.

00:06:05.000 What happened next?

00:06:06.000 I've…

00:06:07.000 Well, I mean, because I'm saying this because this is literally on like TMZ.

00:06:12.000 So, after that, when I was talking to him, I kind of moved on because I'm like, whatever, you're robotic, we move on.

00:06:20.000 Kind of got caught up with Trey Songz.

00:06:25.000 Oh, TMZ, we're like asking him questions about, because like my fitness group was like the Fit Thick Army.

00:06:31.000 So, then I was linked to him, right?

00:06:34.000 Okay.

00:06:35.000 So, then that's kind of where it just started to…

00:06:37.000 So, then you started getting… 1.00

00:06:38.000 Shit wouldn't work out. 1.00

00:06:39.000 I would move on. 1.00

00:06:40.000 Okay.

00:06:41.000 And then, yeah, like I, especially when I first got on social media, it was a different place, right?

00:06:46.000 Early 20s, guys from all over.

00:06:51.000 I mean, it was just…

00:06:52.000 I would entertain one at a time though.

00:06:53.000 That was like my thing.

00:06:54.000 So, I was like, when I'm done with you, I'm going to move on.

00:06:56.000 And then it just became…

00:06:57.000 So…

00:06:58.000 Unsuccessful relationships and I moved on.

00:07:00.000 Okay.

00:07:01.000 So, it was just like, you were linked with rapper, entertainer…

00:07:05.000 A lot of my show was public.

00:07:06.000 Okay. 0.99

00:07:07.000 And I feel like that's where a lot of people are like, she's a whore. 1.00

00:07:10.000 But it's like, there's articles where someone took a picture of me at the movie theater with a guy. 0.98

00:07:15.000 That's out of my control.

00:07:17.000 So, I would say now, you know, when you've kind of figured out how the world works,

00:07:24.000 you try to be a bit more mindful about who you even step out with.

00:07:27.000 But you can't control if people take pictures of you.

00:07:30.000 That's…

00:07:31.000 Were you posting any of these guys yourself?

00:07:32.000 No.

00:07:33.000 So, you never posted them yourself?

00:07:34.000 No, because we weren't exclusive.

00:07:35.000 Right.

00:07:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:07:37.000 Like, I'm going to post somebody that's my man.

00:07:38.000 Again, I'm a 21, 22 year old posted that man crush Monday.

00:07:41.000 That's obviously very childish, right?

00:07:42.000 But all these other guys, they did not…

00:07:45.000 I didn't post them on my page.

00:07:46.000 Mm-hmm.

00:07:47.000 So…

00:07:48.000 And so then, basically, because you were linked to all these different guys…

00:07:52.000 Publicly, yes.

00:07:53.000 Publicly, they're…

00:07:54.000 Now, that's when the reputation started to build.

00:07:56.000 Yes.

00:07:57.000 Then…

00:07:58.000 So, this is…

00:07:59.000 This is where…

00:08:00.000 So, then the book counts.

00:08:01.000 Tell me…

00:08:02.000 2018, yeah.

00:08:03.000 And from what I know…

00:08:04.000 I haven't read the book.

00:08:05.000 Okay.

00:08:06.000 What I know of the book is that you basically exposed a lot of people in the book.

00:08:13.000 This is just what I've heard.

00:08:14.000 Okay.

00:08:15.000 You…

00:08:16.000 Basically, all the stuff you've been doing, you put in the book.

00:08:21.000 Mm-hmm.

00:08:22.000 And while you might not have said their names exactly, it was pretty easy for people to

00:08:25.000 figure out who they were.

00:08:26.000 Okay.

00:08:27.000 Well, I didn't expose anyone.

00:08:29.000 Okay.

00:08:30.000 My book was like a 25-year-old's memoir, basically.

00:08:34.000 Okay.

00:08:35.000 And I didn't list all of these sexipades.

00:08:37.000 So, there were seven…

00:08:39.000 Seven people.

00:08:40.000 Okay.

00:08:41.000 Fake names.

00:08:42.000 Um…

00:08:43.000 Seven relationships, like situationships, whatever you want to call them.

00:08:47.000 Mm-hmm.

00:08:48.000 And what I learned from that.

00:08:49.000 So, there was a lot of…

00:08:50.000 My book was about sharing my story.

00:08:52.000 Mm-hmm.

00:08:53.000 And being accountable.

00:08:54.000 The most salacious stories or sexipades, they weren't even in there.

00:08:57.000 Because it wasn't…

00:08:58.000 A lot of these guys, it was…

00:09:00.000 You can tell now if you want.

00:09:01.000 I'm sorry?

00:09:02.000 I said, you can tell now if you want.

00:09:03.000 Yeah.

00:09:04.000 I mean…

00:09:05.000 I'm just kidding.

00:09:06.000 I'm just kidding.

00:09:07.000 Yes.

00:09:08.000 I mean, it's just kind of like…

00:09:09.000 That was never my intention.

00:09:10.000 My book never had ill intent.

00:09:11.000 Now, again, I know the salacious marketing was intentional because I knew people were thinking

00:09:15.000 I'm going to…

00:09:16.000 Right.

00:09:17.000 It's like a thumbnail.

00:09:18.000 Yeah.

00:09:19.000 Yeah.

00:09:20.000 It's clickbait.

00:09:21.000 Like, yeah, look at all these guys right here.

00:09:22.000 But when people actually read it, any person who's read my book is like, wait, this is

00:09:26.000 completely different than how you pitched it.

00:09:28.000 And it really is a book about accountability.

00:09:30.000 Mm-hmm.

00:09:31.000 So, those seven people really helped… were like pivotal moments for me.

00:09:37.000 Mm-hmm.

00:09:38.000 So, again, I took what came with the salacious marketing.

00:09:42.000 And again, misrepresenting myself is just that, right?

00:09:46.000 Mm-hmm.

00:09:47.000 So, you have to accept what comes behind that.

00:09:48.000 So, I wanted to sell a book.

00:09:49.000 I had no problem with doing, you know, using my tactics to get copies sold.

00:09:55.000 Mm-hmm.

00:09:56.000 And what came with that is she's not trustworthy. 1.00

00:09:59.000 She's a whore. 1.00

00:10:00.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:10:01.000 And that's all she cares about is money. 0.57

00:10:02.000 She's just a quick money grab. 1.00

00:10:03.000 Mm-hmm.

00:10:04.000 So, you cannot be trusted.

00:10:05.000 And I understand that.

00:10:06.000 If you've never read my book, it's like what I'm saying doesn't even make sense.

00:10:10.000 Mm-hmm.

00:10:11.000 Because you would actually have to physically read it.

00:10:12.000 That's why the book is called Judge This Cover.

00:10:13.000 You're going to do that anyways.

00:10:14.000 Mm-hmm.

00:10:15.000 There are people that just took little snippets from each chapter.

00:10:18.000 Mm-hmm.

00:10:19.000 And judge me off of that.

00:10:20.000 You're talking about this guy.

00:10:22.000 I was talking about spitting in his mouth or paying for flights.

00:10:26.000 That was one that was circulating on Twitter.

00:10:28.000 I talked about how I pay for my own flights.

00:10:29.000 Okay.

00:10:30.000 So, it's like I'm such a gold digger.

00:10:31.000 Why do I pay for my flights?

00:10:32.000 Mm-hmm.

00:10:33.000 So, there's just things in there that I felt like people did not want to understand me. 0.97

00:10:37.000 You didn't open the book so your opinion doesn't fucking matter about the book. 0.88

00:10:40.000 Read it and then tell me how you feel about me. 0.97

00:10:41.000 You know?

00:10:42.000 Mm-hmm.

00:10:43.000 That's kind of how I feel with that.

00:10:44.000 So, then you write the book.

00:10:45.000 Were any of the people that were in the book mad that you wrote the book?

00:10:51.000 Um, the conversations I've had, because there's maybe like two guys in there that I have not spoken to.

00:10:59.000 Right?

00:11:00.000 The other five I've had conversations with since.

00:11:02.000 Mm-hmm.

00:11:03.000 One of the people I had actually asked me to market them as one of the people in it.

00:11:08.000 They didn't mind that.

00:11:09.000 Okay.

00:11:10.000 Other guys in my life, just in general, were asked like why they weren't in it.

00:11:13.000 They were like sad, right?

00:11:14.000 Mm-hmm.

00:11:15.000 But most of the guys I had a good relationship with were still cool.

00:11:20.000 Mm-hmm.

00:11:21.000 They understood that that was my experience.

00:11:23.000 That was my perspective.

00:11:25.000 And that was that.

00:11:26.000 I mean, there was one chapter I spoke to recently.

00:11:29.000 He was like, I was just waiting for you to say my name so I could have sued you for everything.

00:11:34.000 Right?

00:11:35.000 And I'm just like, well, that wasn't my plan.

00:11:36.000 Like, I wasn't trying to hurt you.

00:11:38.000 But he was like, I understood your perspective.

00:11:40.000 And I get it.

00:11:41.000 He said you didn't lie in it.

00:11:42.000 Mm-hmm.

00:11:43.000 So.

00:11:44.000 Okay.

00:11:45.000 So none of the guys had hurt feelings over the book.

00:11:46.000 No.

00:11:47.000 Okay.

00:11:48.000 Well, so that seems, because I kind of thought, um, you know, you know, you know,

00:11:50.000 like from what I had heard is that some of the guys maybe weren't happy they were in

00:11:55.000 the book.

00:11:56.000 I'm sure they weren't.

00:11:57.000 But I think the people that weren't happy about it, the two that I'm thinking of in my

00:12:01.000 mind, I just haven't spoken to them.

00:12:03.000 Okay.

00:12:04.000 And the other five I did.

00:12:05.000 So, you know.

00:12:06.000 Okay.

00:12:07.000 I don't know.

00:12:08.000 I don't know.

00:12:09.000 I don't know how they would feel now.

00:12:10.000 So you don't think like, because I'm just thinking, I just know how the guys are going

00:12:14.000 to see it.

00:12:15.000 Like, you're choosing to publicly link with these people.

00:12:17.000 And maybe you didn't want it to be public.

00:12:19.000 But it's like, if you're making a choice to go after the, like, rappers, athletes, like

00:12:23.000 that sort of thing, of course people are going to call you a hoe.

00:12:26.000 And that's fine.

00:12:27.000 Yeah.

00:12:28.000 And you know, that's the thing.

00:12:29.000 You don't shy away from that.

00:12:30.000 Yeah.

00:12:31.000 But it goes back to my original question, whether you think it's earned or not.

00:12:34.000 Or it's like misrepresenting you or not.

00:12:36.000 Well, I think there's, that I have misrepresented myself because again, I, Bundle of Britney is

00:12:42.000 like her own, that's like a Frankenstein I have created. 0.86

00:12:46.000 Right.

00:12:47.000 And that's like a fraction, even just the time we've spent the past few days together, probably

00:12:51.000 very different than what you've seen online.

00:12:53.000 You know, so that's what I have used to get views and get clicks.

00:12:57.000 And I've realized that I don't have to do that anymore.

00:12:59.000 So that's where the misrepresentation comes in.

00:13:01.000 But again, a hoe, and I guess in this sphere, right, is someone who has sex with multiple 1.00

00:13:07.000 guys. 0.99

00:13:08.000 Okay.

00:13:09.000 Well, then that's not a term I'm going to shy away from. 0.84

00:13:10.000 I've had sex with multiple guys.

00:13:11.000 Now I'm not going to take that word and be like, I'm so unworthy. 1.00

00:13:14.000 I'm a whore. 0.99

00:13:15.000 It just is what it is. 0.99

00:13:16.000 Like, that's how they want to distinguish what category women fall under. 1.00

00:13:20.000 I got no problem with that.

00:13:21.000 That's fine.

00:13:22.000 Okay.

00:13:23.000 You guys didn't work out.

00:13:24.000 I moved on.

00:13:25.000 You know?

00:13:26.000 Okay.

00:13:27.000 So that part you don't necessarily feel like was misrepresented based on how the guys would

00:13:32.000 see it.

00:13:33.000 How they would, yeah.

00:13:34.000 How they would see it.

00:13:35.000 Okay.

00:13:36.000 I get it.

00:13:37.000 Okay.

00:13:38.000 So then next, next, this is where I heard of you first.

00:13:39.000 Okay.

00:13:40.000 Let's talk about PJ.

00:13:41.000 Okay.

00:13:42.000 So you do the book.

00:13:43.000 Is PJ next or is there something in between?

00:13:46.000 Um, meaning like when we met?

00:13:47.000 Yeah.

00:13:48.000 Um, yeah.

00:13:49.000 So we met, he, he actually came to my hosting, um, in 2018, May of 2018.

00:13:56.000 So that's like basically where we first met.

00:13:58.000 It was not romantic.

00:13:59.000 Like I literally had a job there.

00:14:00.000 He's like, Hey, I'm going to come by.

00:14:01.000 Okay, cool.

00:14:02.000 Um, I, he invited me to his, his, his game at UK, February, 2019.

00:14:10.000 Right.

00:14:11.000 So we met, um, I went back for my birthday.

00:14:16.000 So I went to two Kentucky games and that's when we first started talking.

00:14:19.000 Like after my birthday, we talked almost every single day and I was aware, like, he's

00:14:25.000 younger than me.

00:14:26.000 I always had a lot of judgment towards guys who were younger than me.

00:14:29.000 Cause I'm like, you're younger than me.

00:14:30.000 How can you handle me?

00:14:31.000 You know?

00:14:32.000 Right. 0.98

00:14:33.000 Um, but I always felt like PJ saw me for me and that is the fucking God honest truth. 0.94

00:14:39.000 Um, it makes me sad even thinking about it.

00:14:42.000 Cause like, I don't know, you just think people get you and it just doesn't work out.

00:14:47.000 So that's why I overlooked some of those things like the age.

00:14:51.000 Oh, he's about to be in the NBA.

00:14:52.000 I overlooked that because I felt like, Oh my God, I finally have a guy who doesn't judge

00:14:56.000 me, who sees me for me and like accepts it and understands my value.

00:15:00.000 So I felt like he was somebody that like deserved all my time and attention.

00:15:04.000 And you know, it just didn't end up working out long term.

00:15:08.000 So, and how old was he when it started?

00:15:10.000 How old were you?

00:15:11.000 Cause this is the, the near 20.

00:15:12.000 I've got a million questions about you.

00:15:13.000 Yeah.

00:15:14.000 About the age they get.

00:15:15.000 I'm so glad you brought it up.

00:15:16.000 About you grooming.

00:15:17.000 Like they, they said, cause essentially what, what just to give context to the viewers at

00:15:19.000 home.

00:15:20.000 If you guys don't know anything about Brittany, I saw a video of you where you were in the

00:15:24.000 car saying how this is basically how to, you can kind of get a kid off of an NBA player.

00:15:33.000 Yeah.

00:15:34.000 And it's really easy because these guys don't wear condom and it's something to that effect.

00:15:40.000 So then a couple of years later when you, you have a kid off an NBA player, it looks, it's

00:15:46.000 not a good look.

00:15:47.000 Right.

00:15:48.000 And especially that he's a lot younger than you.

00:15:50.000 So what, what did you feel like was misrepresented there?

00:15:53.000 So to give a little bit more context to the video too, especially I think I made this video

00:15:59.000 in 2018 and I was in my car ranting, you know, like I always do.

00:16:03.000 And people were saying that, you know, you're a gold digger, you're this and you're that.

00:16:07.000 And my way to defend myself.

00:16:09.000 This was when, was that when you also said that you pay for your own flights too?

00:16:14.000 I was just wondering.

00:16:15.000 I'm trying to, I would have to go to my archive and play the video in its entirety to be able

00:16:19.000 to confirm that.

00:16:20.000 Okay.

00:16:21.000 Because there were other times I talked about paying for my flights.

00:16:24.000 Um, but in that video, I was saying that if I really was a gold digger, I could have several

00:16:32.000 kids by now.

00:16:33.000 And so it was an attempt to make a group of people look bad.

00:16:36.000 And I made myself look even worse.

00:16:38.000 Cause I'm like, what are you guys talking about?

00:16:39.000 I'm a gold digger.

00:16:40.000 These athletes don't use condoms.

00:16:41.000 I could have a baby by then.

00:16:42.000 Right.

00:16:43.000 It aged horribly.

00:16:44.000 Right.

00:16:45.000 And I don't, and I don't ever try to deny that.

00:16:46.000 And I don't do apology tours.

00:16:47.000 It is what it is.

00:16:48.000 I said what I said.

00:16:49.000 Like that was my truth.

00:16:50.000 That was my experience.

00:16:51.000 The people that I was encountering, not even like an athlete thing.

00:16:54.000 A lot of guys don't wear condoms, but it was surprising to me that people of such high

00:16:59.000 status were a little bit more reckless.

00:17:01.000 Right.

00:17:02.000 Um, and for the right.

00:17:03.000 Because you think they have so much to lose.

00:17:05.000 Yeah.

00:17:06.000 I guess that's exactly what it is.

00:17:07.000 Right.

00:17:08.000 It's like, why would you, why do you trust me?

00:17:11.000 Right.

00:17:12.000 And as a young person and you're not even young person. 1.00

00:17:14.000 So in your head, you were saying like, fuck the haters. 0.99

00:17:17.000 I could have a kid that none of these people, if you wanted to catch a kid by an NBA player. 1.00

00:17:22.000 It's really easy because they're dumb. 1.00

00:17:23.000 Right. 0.99

00:17:24.000 So that's where that, the context of that video.

00:17:26.000 Right.

00:17:27.000 And then I met PJ, like we started talking when he was 20 years old.

00:17:32.000 Mm-hmm.

00:17:33.000 We have a six year age gap.

00:17:34.000 Okay.

00:17:35.000 So you're 26.

00:17:36.000 Yeah.

00:17:37.000 20.

00:17:38.000 I'm thinking, I'm 26.

00:17:39.000 I'm thinking 20 year olds are pretty immature.

00:17:41.000 But I'm telling you when I met him, I just felt like, and like genuinely.

00:17:45.000 Yeah.

00:17:46.000 He had an old soul.

00:17:47.000 That's how I felt about him.

00:17:48.000 So a lot of people tried to like, I don't know.

00:17:53.000 I feel like they tried to tell me how I felt and like my intentions.

00:17:57.000 And it's like, I know the truth.

00:17:59.000 Like I know the person that I was sitting across from at BJ's when we had our first date in Kentucky and Lexington.

00:18:04.000 Like you can't, you can't tell me that, you know?

00:18:07.000 I personally think 20 is old enough to make your own decision.

00:18:10.000 Yes.

00:18:11.000 I put myself when I was 20 and I'm thinking you can't really be groomed at 20 years old.

00:18:17.000 But for some reason, I feel like back then they said that you, something about you met him in high school.

00:18:23.000 I did not even know he existed.

00:18:25.000 Okay.

00:18:26.000 I didn't.

00:18:27.000 Did you see him play in high school?

00:18:28.000 Never.

00:18:29.000 Okay.

00:18:30.000 I don't, but that's what I'm saying.

00:18:31.000 The 200,000 a month, the meeting him when he was in high school.

00:18:34.000 Again, like even when I first was like, I met PJ when I went to Kentucky, I was talking to someone who played on the Nuggets at the time.

00:18:43.000 And it was something that I kind of had a history with.

00:18:45.000 And when I met PJ and we had that connection, I immediately cut the guy from the Nuggets off.

00:18:51.000 You see what I'm saying? 1.00

00:18:52.000 So like I had my own shit going. 1.00

00:18:53.000 I did not know he existed when he was in fucking high school. 1.00

00:18:56.000 What? 0.99

00:18:57.000 I'm pulling heavy hitters. 1.00

00:18:58.000 What am I worried about a fucking kid in high school for? 1.00

00:19:00.000 But that's where people just make up their own shit. 1.00

00:19:03.000 So it's like, well, I can't really, you guys are going to say what the fuck you want to say. 0.99

00:19:07.000 All I can do is sit here and tell you the truth. 0.99

00:19:09.000 You know?

00:19:10.000 So 20, you guys start talking.

00:19:12.000 When did you get pregnant? 1.00

00:19:14.000 I got pregnant.

00:19:15.000 And you were with him for how long?

00:19:17.000 So we talked.

00:19:18.000 Were you guys dating or were you like linking?

00:19:20.000 No, we were exclusive when I got pregnant.

00:19:23.000 So we talked from February 2019 to February 2020.

00:19:28.000 Now, I don't know what he was doing, who he was doing it with, whatever.

00:19:32.000 But we started dating February 2020.

00:19:36.000 I left California April of 2020.

00:19:40.000 And I moved in with him.

00:19:42.000 I had my own place, but I was staying in his apartment.

00:19:44.000 We were basically kind of living together already.

00:19:46.000 He asked me to move in with him in the summertime.

00:19:48.000 I got pregnant August 2020.

00:19:51.000 So we had been a year and a half at least familiar with one another, but exclusive probably those six, eight months.

00:19:58.000 Six to eight months.

00:19:59.000 Yeah.

00:20:00.000 And did you say, was the child planned?

00:20:01.000 Yeah.

00:20:02.000 I mean, my son is Paul Jermaine Washington III.

00:20:04.000 Okay.

00:20:05.000 Like he has his father's name.

00:20:06.000 You guys sat down and said, I want to have a kid.

00:20:08.000 Yes.

00:20:09.000 And I was on birth control for 10 years because I never wanted to go through an abortion.

00:20:14.000 That was just me personally.

00:20:15.000 I'm like, well, if I can prevent it and I'd rather be safe.

00:20:18.000 And again, like I'm hot.

00:20:19.000 I'm popping. 0.99

00:20:20.000 I got shit going on. 0.99

00:20:21.000 I'm definitely not trying to have anybody's child. 0.99

00:20:23.000 Right.

00:20:24.000 So I got off birth control and there was a conversation.

00:20:28.000 Got off birth control.

00:20:29.000 I got pregnant.

00:20:30.000 So it wasn't some, oops, I came in you and you got pregnant. 1.00

00:20:33.000 Like, no, it was, I want a family.

00:20:35.000 I want a child.

00:20:36.000 We're going to get married.

00:20:37.000 Has PJ ever done like interviews on this?

00:20:39.000 No.

00:20:40.000 At all?

00:20:41.000 No.

00:20:42.000 Yeah.

00:20:43.000 Okay.

00:20:44.000 I mean, the truth is the truth.

00:20:45.000 You know, I mean, there's some things like, again, we can share perspective.

00:20:49.000 Right.

00:20:50.000 But the facts of the matter are, he was planned.

00:20:54.000 So that can't, that can't even be disputed.

00:20:57.000 You know, I always thought PJ was like kind of quiet and more to himself.

00:21:01.000 So I don't actually see him ever really doing an interview.

00:21:04.000 Like, I feel like now he's, when we broke up, how everything pans out was like very public

00:21:09.000 and out of character from what I knew of him.

00:21:12.000 But I don't foresee him doing an interview.

00:21:15.000 I don't.

00:21:16.000 Okay.

00:21:17.000 So you guys, you guys break up.

00:21:19.000 I don't know.

00:21:20.000 You're together.

00:21:21.000 Tell me, how, how did you guys split up?

00:21:23.000 And you can be as detailed or not detailed as you want.

00:21:26.000 You don't have to go into.

00:21:28.000 Okay.

00:21:29.000 Um.

00:21:31.000 There were some things like, cause I had never gone through anybody's phone and like my,

00:21:35.000 cause I, at the time I was 28.

00:21:36.000 Right.

00:21:37.000 Um, girl, you were dealing with athletes.

00:21:39.000 I never went through anybody's phone.

00:21:40.000 Never.

00:21:41.000 Except PJs.

00:21:42.000 Okay.

00:21:43.000 Okay.

00:21:44.000 Yep.

00:21:45.000 Because I felt like if I have to go through your phone.

00:21:46.000 Yeah.

00:21:47.000 I already have my answer.

00:21:48.000 Right.

00:21:49.000 And I don't, I'm not doing that. 0.99

00:21:50.000 I'm not playing fucking detective. 0.98

00:21:51.000 Right. 0.99

00:21:52.000 So I went through his phone.

00:21:53.000 Again, this was the summer, like, you know, a few months before I got pregnant, found some

00:21:56.000 stuff in his phone.

00:21:57.000 I didn't like nothing confirmed. 1.00

00:21:58.000 I mean, you're just entertaining bitches. 1.00

00:22:00.000 Like, okay. 1.00

00:22:01.000 I had never been cheated on that I knew of.

00:22:05.000 Mm-hmm.

00:22:06.000 Right.

00:22:07.000 And I found out stuff that like, he had sex with someone in the beginning of our relationship.

00:22:13.000 But I'm fine.

00:22:14.000 This was in March.

00:22:15.000 You slept with this girl.

00:22:16.000 I found out July.

00:22:17.000 Mm-hmm.

00:22:18.000 I didn't already moved my whole life.

00:22:20.000 I'm already here.

00:22:21.000 Okay.

00:22:22.000 Well, you already.

00:22:23.000 You moved from LA.

00:22:24.000 Yeah.

00:22:25.000 Because I moved from Woodland Hills.

00:22:26.000 I had a condo in Woodland Hills.

00:22:27.000 And I moved all of my, all my whole life to Charlotte, North Carolina to be with him.

00:22:31.000 Right.

00:22:32.000 So I found out some stuff. 0.99

00:22:33.000 I'm like, okay, you fucked this girl in March. 0.99

00:22:35.000 All right. 1.00

00:22:36.000 I love you.

00:22:37.000 And I know what you've seen growing up.

00:22:41.000 I've never forgiven anyone because I've never caught anyone cheating on me.

00:22:45.000 But like, I understand your family dynamics.

00:22:48.000 So I can, I choose to understand and to forgive you.

00:22:53.000 Mm-hmm.

00:22:54.000 And so one of my best friends, when we were talking about how we were like, basically trying

00:23:00.000 to get pregnant, she was like, do you think that's a good idea? 0.99

00:23:02.000 Because you just found out all this stuff, right?

00:23:04.000 Like the voice of reason, right?

00:23:05.000 And she's like, I don't think that's a good foundation.

00:23:07.000 And I was just like, no, I trust who I'm with.

00:23:10.000 Like, I get it.

00:23:11.000 Like, we've talked about it.

00:23:12.000 I understand.

00:23:13.000 And he is younger than me, right?

00:23:15.000 Mm-hmm.

00:23:16.000 He's younger than me.

00:23:17.000 Mm-hmm.

00:23:18.000 I, I'm going to try, I'm going to try this.

00:23:20.000 I'm going to, I've never done this.

00:23:21.000 But I'm just going to try to overlook it and move on.

00:23:23.000 Mm-hmm.

00:23:24.000 So with that knowledge, again, this is where I have to take accountability too.

00:23:27.000 I saw behaviors.

00:23:28.000 I saw red flags.

00:23:30.000 Mm-hmm.

00:23:31.000 And I still chose to move forward.

00:23:32.000 Mm-hmm.

00:23:33.000 And it's because I loved him.

00:23:34.000 I don't know.

00:23:35.000 I just, I believed in him. 0.99

00:23:36.000 And I guess that's where I'm a foolish woman. 0.98

00:23:37.000 Because I just chose to believe in him. 0.98

00:23:38.000 Yeah, girl. 0.99

00:23:39.000 That's la la land.

00:23:40.000 Respectfully.

00:23:41.000 Yeah.

00:23:42.000 It's just like, and we talked about this a little bit before.

00:23:45.000 Yeah.

00:23:46.000 I'm just thinking like, an NBA player?

00:23:47.000 Yeah.

00:23:48.000 Faithful?

00:23:49.000 I've seen, I've said this before, but I've seen him at the D3 level.

00:23:54.000 D3! 1.00

00:23:55.000 The nerve.

00:23:56.000 The nerve.

00:23:57.000 No. 1.00

00:23:58.000 The fucking nerve. 1.00

00:23:59.000 No, I mean, I just saw how those guys would like move around campus. 1.00

00:24:02.000 Yeah.

00:24:03.000 And it's like, that's Division III basketball.

00:24:06.000 Yeah.

00:24:07.000 I'm thinking Division I has to be madness.

00:24:10.000 The NBA has to be madness.

00:24:11.000 Yeah.

00:24:12.000 And first hand, you've been dealing with these guys for like a decade.

00:24:14.000 You know it's madness.

00:24:15.000 It is.

00:24:16.000 And that's just where I kind of just take it on the chin.

00:24:19.000 And I'm like, I believed in someone and it just didn't work out.

00:24:22.000 And I know, and he knows, the conversations and the consistency that I thought, you know,

00:24:28.000 like this was more than enough for me to trust it.

00:24:31.000 I just believed in him.

00:24:33.000 Yeah.

00:24:34.000 And I, again, I can accept my responsibility in that for overlooking certain things that

00:24:39.000 really should have, I should have paid more attention to.

00:24:42.000 Why didn't you ever look for like just a normal guy with like a nine to five?

00:24:46.000 Because it's just, guys will always say like, pay attention to what they do, not what they say.

00:24:52.000 And it's like, a lot of times we'll complain about getting like cheated on or something, right?

00:24:58.000 And then, you know, we overlook the nine to five guy who won't.

00:25:03.000 I would say that, I mean, the, my first boyfriend I met in college, he was regular guy and I loved him to death.

00:25:11.000 I had, I had dated a lawyer during that, during that span.

00:25:14.000 Who broke up with who college guy?

00:25:16.000 I broke up with him because it got abusive on both ends.

00:25:20.000 But this is, this is just, just from the guy's perspective, like they're, they're going to be like, okay, well, that was the guy who wouldn't cheat, but you dumped him.

00:25:27.000 Well, it got to a place where he was very, I mean, he was condescending and emotionally really abusive.

00:25:33.000 And then it got to a place where you're pushing me.

00:25:36.000 Now you're bruising on my arms.

00:25:38.000 And now I'm putting my hands on you because I'm trying to defend myself.

00:25:41.000 And I just felt like the respect was gone.

00:25:43.000 It didn't have nothing to do with whether you cheated or not.

00:25:46.000 It was, we are, we are very toxic together.

00:25:48.000 And I do not foresee us moving past this.

00:25:50.000 Like I feel like once, and this is me, once that respect is lost, for whatever reason, and then I all put your hands on each other, it has to end because there's only one way it's going to end.

00:26:00.000 It only gets progressively worse, in my opinion, in my experience.

00:26:03.000 I'm not trying to find out either.

00:26:05.000 You're putting your hands on me, doing all the other stuff.

00:26:07.000 I don't want to see what you're capable of.

00:26:09.000 Did you file a police report at all or no?

00:26:11.000 No.

00:26:12.000 Because again, it's just like from, like a lot of times we'll say these things about guys, but it's like, it's the question is like me if I'm getting punched in the face.

00:26:23.000 Well, I wasn't getting punched in the face.

00:26:24.000 It was more so you were like bruising my arms and pushing me down and little stuff like that.

00:26:28.000 And I know I, if he would have punched me in the face, that would have also be a different thing.

00:26:32.000 I've never been hit or punched anything ever.

00:26:34.000 So yeah, I feel like it was leading up to being punched in the face.

00:26:39.000 But bruises on my arms to me is a little more than enough.

00:26:42.000 And then you never hit first.

00:26:43.000 I slapped him.

00:26:44.000 Yeah.

00:26:45.000 Okay.

00:26:46.000 Okay.

00:26:47.000 But you would agree that's like mutually abusive.

00:26:48.000 No, that's what I said.

00:26:49.000 I said, yeah, I never said, oh my God, no, like it got to a place where I'm like, all right, now I'm about to start putting my hands on you too.

00:26:55.000 And that's the thing, like, I think a lot of times you actually do, you know, agree with like a lot of the stuff I say, which is interesting.

00:27:03.000 Really?

00:27:04.000 Why?

00:27:05.000 I was just expecting to disagree with you on like everything when you came on some level.

00:27:10.000 But no, you actually are more base than I thought you were going to be.

00:27:14.000 I like what you talk about.

00:27:17.000 I think that it's foreign to me because, or I would say probably a lot of females as well, because I can honestly say, I'll speak for myself because I don't want to speak for everybody.

00:27:27.000 But I never thought about it.

00:27:29.000 I never thought about how men feel.

00:27:30.000 I never thought about, biologically speaking, what makes sense.

00:27:33.000 I never thought about how in marriage, you know, especially if the man makes more, that it's kind of a shitty contract on their end.

00:27:40.000 I know business.

00:27:41.000 That doesn't make sense, you know, unless we're signing prenups, right?

00:27:44.000 So it's just like, since I've been listening to your contents and I knew I was going to get on here, I started to like you a lot more, right?

00:27:51.000 It's easy to just kind of take a clip from you and be like, oh my God, she's this, she's that.

00:27:55.000 I personally like you, like your personality is why I got on a seven hour flight.

00:28:00.000 And I knew that even though I may not agree, and I think that, and not even about agreeing, even though I may not just limit it to just that, like that perspective, I respect it.

00:28:10.000 And I think it's true.

00:28:11.000 There's really not a lot of stuff I think is untrue.

00:28:14.000 And I just have told you, even when we were speaking off camera, that this is a newer mentality.

00:28:20.000 I don't know what this mentality would mean to society as a whole.

00:28:24.000 We kind of talked about the arranged marriages and what would that mean for society as a whole, right?

00:28:30.000 And I think, I can't remember the verbiage you used when we were talking about how the arranged marriages and how women, if we had dreams and stuff, we wanted to explore on what that outcome would look like.

00:28:39.000 You said the term, I don't remember the term you used though.

00:28:42.000 But no, it's like, I get it.

00:28:45.000 And all I can do is just be honest about, like, this is the expression that is coded within me.

00:28:53.000 And I am willing to accept the consequences that comes behind it.

00:28:58.000 So I don't ask for people to look at me through a different lens.

00:29:04.000 I'm just kind of here to be myself and just showcase another perspective.

00:29:09.000 That's really it.

00:29:10.000 So I'm thinking, you do the, looking back, was there anything that you would do differently?

00:29:19.000 And is there a different advice that you would give to a 20 year old girl that has the same opportunities that you did?

00:29:25.000 I think the biggest thing that I would want to do differently is...

00:29:30.000 Avoid the athletes! 0.82

00:29:32.000 I know!

00:29:34.000 Well, I will say, I have to be honest with myself because I think it's easy to take the cliche route and say, like, I would do nothing differently.

00:29:44.000 Now, from the wisdom I have acquired, no, I would not change this wisdom for a clean slate.

00:29:51.000 And that's just the God honest truth.

00:29:53.000 But I will say, to 20 year olds, and even to my 20 year old self, I hate how I allowed myself to just be, like, used up by men.

00:30:03.000 And that came from a lack of self worth.

00:30:08.000 I did not understand my value that I was born with.

00:30:12.000 I didn't.

00:30:13.000 And I gave...

00:30:15.000 Again, people look at sex differently, but sex is spiritual unification.

00:30:19.000 At the end of the day, I don't care how you spin it.

00:30:21.000 It's spiritual...

00:30:22.000 For women.

00:30:23.000 Okay, that's okay.

00:30:24.000 Whatever.

00:30:25.000 Okay, fine.

00:30:26.000 For women.

00:30:27.000 And people that I shared my body with, when I think about my list, it's repulsive.

00:30:35.000 Because they didn't deserve it.

00:30:37.000 But that was an outcome of me discounting my worth. 0.90

00:30:42.000 And it's disgusting.

00:30:46.000 I hate even having that spiritual tie in any type of way. 0.89

00:30:50.000 But yeah, I would absolutely change sexually how I move around.

00:30:55.000 And not even necessarily because of, like, the societal outcome.

00:30:58.000 It's more so from my self worth.

00:31:01.000 It's like, what's how it makes you, like, feel? 0.98

00:31:03.000 Yeah, it doesn't feel good knowing that you gave a sacred part of you to a man that looked at sex with you as taking a piss. 0.96

00:31:13.000 That's not fulfilling. 0.99

00:31:14.000 It's disgusting to think about.

00:31:15.000 And I feel like I've beat myself up every single day for my decisions.

00:31:20.000 And what people say about me online holds no candle to what I've told myself on a daily basis.

00:31:25.000 Like, I've been called worse by better.

00:31:26.000 And that better being me.

00:31:27.000 Like, I have talked down to myself.

00:31:29.000 And I felt like I was unworthy for a very long time.

00:31:32.000 And I would say, this is more of a recent awareness.

00:31:34.000 Like, in the past year.

00:31:35.000 Where I'm like, Brittany, you were always enough.

00:31:40.000 Like, you never had to seek validation outside of you.

00:31:44.000 You never had to look that far.

00:31:46.000 And that's what I would tell myself.

00:31:48.000 I would try to tell women, you should really think about who you're laying down with. 0.97

00:31:53.000 Like, and that is a more traditional view. 0.99

00:31:56.000 But it's like, sex is not even worth it if they don't give a fuck about you. 1.00

00:32:00.000 They don't care about you. 1.00

00:32:01.000 They have no desire to, they don't want to know your favorite color. 1.00

00:32:04.000 They don't give a shit. 0.99

00:32:05.000 So why do you want them over top of you? 0.99

00:32:07.000 Again, that's come from feeling used up.

00:32:10.000 And sometimes that's why the used goods comments, they sting.

00:32:14.000 Because you know what?

00:32:16.000 There are times I felt like that.

00:32:18.000 I feel like the old toy.

00:32:20.000 I'm sorry, the new toy that now is unexciting.

00:32:23.000 And put away in a box.

00:32:25.000 So, I just have to accept what I've done.

00:32:28.000 And move forward with this awareness.

00:32:31.000 And just know that, okay.

00:32:33.000 The guy that I'm, that most likely, that I'm not looking for a husband.

00:32:37.000 I'm looking for my husband and there's a difference.

00:32:39.000 That guy is going to be a very small percentage.

00:32:42.000 And I'm okay with that.

00:32:43.000 I'm at peace.

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JustPearlyThings - November 02, 2023

Brittany Renner REVEALS The Truth Behind Her Story

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