JustPearlyThings - Candace Debates Feminists

00:00:00.000 On line of a dozen women being asked the following question, do we need men?

00:00:06.080 Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.

00:00:11.880 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.

00:00:14.760 Most young men are single, most young women are not.

00:00:17.760 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America for the last 40 years.

00:00:22.440 It's a different world now, like we don't need men the way that they used to.

00:00:25.480 Nobody needs men!

00:00:26.720 The future is female.

00:00:28.300 Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.

00:00:36.260 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.

00:00:39.560 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.

00:00:42.260 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.

00:00:45.820 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.

00:00:49.900 Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.

00:00:52.380 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.

00:00:55.500 Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.

00:01:00.420 It's Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.

00:01:03.800 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.

00:01:07.800 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.

00:01:10.640 Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.

00:01:15.820 Gee, what could go wrong there?

00:01:17.940 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.

00:01:21.540 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.

00:01:24.400 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.

00:01:27.020 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.

00:01:32.080 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.

00:01:35.280 You need no evidence.

00:01:36.440 When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for,

00:01:40.080 and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.

00:01:43.460 I interviewed them on the other side.

00:01:46.000 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.

00:01:48.440 How much did you spend trying to get him back?

00:01:50.440 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.

00:01:52.800 Before you know it, you're homeless.

00:01:54.220 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.

00:01:56.000 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.

00:01:58.580 Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.

00:02:02.860 Family is the foundation of society.

00:02:04.580 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.

00:02:07.720 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.

00:02:12.060 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.

00:02:14.020 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.

00:02:15.820 We tell them to put off family into marriage.

00:02:17.580 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.

00:02:20.320 You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.

00:02:24.480 Oh, freeze your eggs, have an abortion.

00:02:26.640 What?

00:02:27.040 You're evil.

00:02:27.900 I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.

00:02:31.660 Right.

00:02:31.780 Like, if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally,

00:02:36.320 the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.

00:02:38.560 It's self-sabotage.

00:02:39.460 And that's the thing.

00:02:40.020 Like, women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.

00:02:43.220 This is not about happiness.

00:02:44.900 The most important thing is the children.

00:02:46.980 And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave

00:02:51.980 when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.

00:02:56.040 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?

00:02:59.740 They think, well, men have all the rights.

00:03:01.240 They have all the power.

00:03:02.520 Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.

00:03:04.760 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?

00:03:07.380 I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.

00:03:10.620 Men are alone in this situation.

00:03:12.540 Men are homeless.

00:03:13.500 Men are thinking about eating guns.

00:03:14.880 I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong.

00:03:19.680 How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?

00:03:25.080 The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.

00:03:28.940 Women are helplessly dependent upon men.

00:03:31.600 The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, to alcohol,

00:03:35.720 three times higher among men than among women.

00:03:38.780 Culture is telling men, you are no good.

00:03:40.620 You've got to get your act together.

00:03:41.820 I think men have failed themselves.

00:03:43.240 What kind of a man are you?

00:03:44.340 What kind of a woman are you going to attract?

00:03:46.640 If men are in trouble, so are women.

00:03:49.260 Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.

00:03:52.960 Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man to get...

00:03:55.160 500K.

00:03:55.860 500K.

00:03:56.280 300K.

00:03:56.800 300K.

00:03:57.240 200K.

00:03:57.680 Am I crazy?

00:03:58.400 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.

00:04:00.680 If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.

00:04:04.240 So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?

00:04:08.120 Women.

00:04:08.520 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.

00:04:11.780 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.

00:04:14.040 I'm over it.

00:04:15.200 When is it going to be my turn?

00:04:16.500 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?

00:04:18.240 I can't keep having these same conversations.

00:04:21.040 The only simp here is you, Pearl.

00:04:22.320 You simp for men.

00:04:22.920 No, I think you simp for women.

00:04:24.360 She's a provocateur.

00:04:25.320 She says stupid stuff.

00:04:26.500 But Pearl is right about this.

00:04:27.780 It's already happening.

00:04:28.900 It's just not out in the open yet.

00:04:30.320 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairytale ending because men don't want

00:04:34.000 a wife and women can't find a husband.

00:04:36.040 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.

00:04:40.300 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.

00:04:44.320 Civilization will crumble.

00:04:45.960 The American story does not end well.

00:04:48.520 This is an existential crisis failing young men.

00:04:51.460 Do you have a message you want to send your ex-wife?

00:05:01.340 Do you think, wow, I wish I could tell her something terrible?

00:05:07.240 Well, have me do it for you in this divorce documentary for, you know, a small donation

00:05:12.760 of $20,000.

00:05:14.620 We will let you send a personalized message to your wife in this divorce documentary.

00:05:20.960 Assuming I can't get it soon.

00:05:23.400 I'll have a legal look at it first, but you can call her a bitch.

00:05:26.760 I don't think that's illegal.

00:05:28.220 So, you know, the GoFundMe is in the description.

00:05:30.500 We got $31,000 raised.

00:05:32.740 Thank you, everybody.

00:05:33.860 As you guys know, because I want to put out this documentary, they have deplatformed me.

00:05:37.880 They have demonetized me.

00:05:39.640 I'm surprised I haven't been thrown in jail like the Tates, but I'm still going.

00:05:43.440 So if you can donate in the description, it's the GoFundMe link, or you can join Pearl

00:05:50.960 Invite.com.

00:05:53.200 That is our members-only community, and you do have to apply to be a part of it, but essentially

00:05:59.060 it's going to be a learning community.

00:06:01.000 And yeah, all right.

00:06:03.840 Anyway, so today we are going to be reacting to Candace Owens debating 20 feminists.

00:06:10.740 Now, there's a point where you realize that conservative women, so-called conservative

00:06:23.960 women, we're not as much different than liberal women as I think maybe a lot of us would like

00:06:32.900 to believe, because you see these blue-haired feminists and you think, well, I'm not like

00:06:39.360 that, you know, I didn't do like a Bonnie Blue or a Lily Phillips, you know, you know, but what

00:06:48.660 I realized is the more women identify as conservative or really anything, like they identify as religious

00:06:54.880 or, I realized that you tend to get like a big ego from it.

00:07:01.520 You know, you start to, you start to think you're different.

00:07:05.380 And I believe that's kind of the trap that, like, Candace has fallen into.

00:07:13.220 She doesn't really realize how scary she is as a woman.

00:07:17.140 What she did to Crowder, to me, was terrifying.

00:07:21.880 And I think there's a lot of stuff she misses because she's got a big ego.

00:07:29.100 I do really like her.

00:07:30.400 On one hand, I like her BLM work, but sometimes I think she's kind of fraudulent, right?

00:07:37.840 Because I just don't really think like she's what she's portraying herself to be.

00:07:44.580 I guess I'll say it in that way.

00:07:46.880 So I felt like, sorry, this interview was a really good demonstration of it.

00:07:53.800 So we're going to react to Candace Owens on Jubilee again.

00:07:58.160 So let's go.

00:07:59.340 They don't want to stay at home when you pull them.

00:08:01.680 They just want flexible working hours and flexible working conditions like you have.

00:08:05.360 And I think we should all advocate for that.

00:08:07.060 It's not one or the other.

00:08:08.000 But when you sit here and you go, you'll be more fulfilled doing this and spend all your

00:08:11.140 time doing that, we would love for you to leave the public eye and go focus on what

00:08:14.260 makes you fulfilled.

00:08:15.440 Okay.

00:08:17.360 Hi, my name is Candace Owens.

00:08:18.840 I am a podcaster, a mother, a wife, and also the author of the upcoming book.

00:08:23.660 So people kind of subtly tell on themselves, what was the first thing she said when she

00:08:33.320 introduced herself?

00:08:35.060 I'm a podcaster.

00:08:36.520 It's very obvious that's the most important thing to her in her life.

00:08:41.020 I don't blame her.

00:08:42.980 You have to understand women are using every strategy in the book to get to have sex with

00:08:49.620 hot guys and have freedom.

00:08:51.520 That's that's what feminism at its core is fighting for.

00:08:55.020 It's I want to reproduce with the best guy I can instead of being saddled down with the guy

00:09:00.600 from my hometown and two, I want, I don't want to be under his authority.

00:09:06.820 I want as much freedom as I can possibly have.

00:09:09.660 And I think we got to humanize women to some extent.

00:09:13.080 Can you blame Candace for wanting some sort of freedom where if the relationship's not

00:09:18.220 working in the future, she's going to want to bounce.

00:09:20.540 I'm trying to maybe take the morality out of it and just humanize people a little bit

00:09:30.880 more.

00:09:31.700 Women aren't men.

00:09:32.660 We don't do the right thing just because, right?

00:09:35.560 So let me let me continue.

00:09:37.740 Book, Make Him a Sandwich.

00:09:38.800 And today I am surrounded by 20 feminists.

00:09:42.060 My first claim is that the sexual revolution has devalued women and made them infinitely

00:09:51.400 less happy.

00:09:53.020 Okay.

00:09:53.920 So I think that it does make women less happy when they hit 50, but I would say that women

00:10:04.360 are infinitely more happy in their 20s when they get worshiped by men invited to hang out

00:10:11.780 with the highest level men on the planet and just worshiped and invited to the best events.

00:10:18.980 That's what I think.

00:10:19.840 I think at 50 maybe, but at 20, I would say the women are probably more happy today because

00:10:29.260 they get all the freedom and no responsibility.

00:10:32.840 Yeah.

00:10:41.780 Hi.

00:10:42.740 Hello.

00:10:44.540 Hi.

00:10:45.280 Hi.

00:10:45.780 I'm Samaya.

00:10:46.840 Samaya.

00:10:47.240 Nice to meet you.

00:10:47.780 I'm Candace.

00:10:48.300 Nice to meet you too.

00:10:49.360 So my question for you is statistics show that 60% of women who are murdered are murdered

00:10:56.320 by their intimate partners, murdered by someone that they're...

00:10:59.620 Yeah, that women pick.

00:11:00.760 So women pick.

00:11:05.460 Women love violent men.

00:11:07.180 Like what?

00:11:07.640 We pick them.

00:11:08.340 So I got no sympathy.

00:11:09.520 Sorry, ladies.

00:11:10.460 In close relations with.

00:11:12.280 That's according to the UN from 2023.

00:11:15.700 Yeah.

00:11:15.920 So how is it that, you know, women are so valued, you know, quote unquote in the home and yet that's

00:11:22.380 the place where they're at the most danger?

00:11:25.180 Okay.

00:11:25.480 So I'm not sure what that has to do with the sexual revolution.

00:11:27.800 Right.

00:11:27.920 The sexual revolution gave...

00:11:31.340 I'm happy to answer it.

00:11:32.220 I'm just saying that, you know, if you brought in that statistic, you are more likely in general

00:11:37.100 just to be murdered by somebody you know.

00:11:38.920 So of course...

00:11:39.660 But men are much less likely to be murdered by, you know, their intimate partners.

00:11:42.560 That's not true.

00:11:43.940 Yes, it is.

00:11:44.900 Yeah, I'm sure because men are less likely to be murdered by women.

00:11:47.960 Full stop.

00:11:48.700 Yeah.

00:11:49.220 Exactly.

00:11:49.580 So that statistic makes sense to me.

00:11:51.100 But women are more abusive than men.

00:11:52.600 Women are more violent, far more violent.

00:11:54.480 The only reason women don't kill men as much is because we don't have the strength to.

00:12:00.080 Like if we could kill a guy with our hands, can you imagine?

00:12:02.200 Oh my God.

00:12:04.180 Oh my God.

00:12:05.040 God, thank you for not giving us that power.

00:12:07.280 I would be dead.

00:12:08.040 I really would.

00:12:08.680 I'm still not sure how this correlates to whether or not the sexual revolution increased women's

00:12:14.380 ability to leave the house, women's ability to control their own reproductive capabilities,

00:12:19.440 women's ability to, you know, control their own like capacity within the workforce in regards

00:12:25.640 to their own sexual capacity.

00:12:27.060 So it is the very fact that like the sexual revolution happened that made our access to

00:12:33.240 the workplace much more, or just the public sphere in general, much more easy.

00:12:38.500 So like without the sexual revolution, women would be much more confined to the place where

00:12:44.000 they're at the most danger.

00:12:45.600 Isn't that true?

00:12:46.620 So you think that, just so I'm trying to understand your argument here, you think that if we didn't

00:12:50.880 have the sexual revolution, less women or more women would be murdered?

00:12:54.180 Are you saying that women are being-

00:12:55.300 More women would be murdered for sure.

00:12:56.560 Okay.

00:12:57.680 Oh yeah, I do.

00:12:58.800 I actually agree with her.

00:13:01.920 I think there's a lot of laws that protect women now and let us basically be super violent

00:13:08.120 towards the men.

00:13:09.300 And if they were, because the whole system is based on the Duluth model.

00:13:13.400 So women, men are automatically seen as the aggressors because of that model.

00:13:18.600 Now, basically the law lets women beat the shit out of men and men can't fight back.

00:13:24.780 Uh, so yeah, I do think a lot of women run their mouths and if it weren't for the misandrist

00:13:30.560 laws we have today, they would be murdered.

00:13:32.740 Yeah.

00:13:33.800 Yup.

00:13:36.340 Yup.

00:13:36.840 So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say where I agree and where I don't agree.

00:13:39.400 Um, I disagree with that.

00:13:40.840 I still don't think it has anything to do with the claim that women are infinitely less

00:13:45.220 happy because of the sexual revolution, which has devalued women.

00:13:47.520 I think you'd probably be less happy if you're being murdered.

00:13:50.460 Oh.

00:13:50.960 I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, there is definitely a correlation between personal

00:13:59.600 relationships and domestic violence.

00:14:01.320 And just to be clear, if we're talking about just like a monogamous relationships, the most

00:14:05.680 violent relationships that are on the books are between lesbian partners.

00:14:08.680 Yes.

00:14:09.120 When people are intimate, that's not, that's not a, that is actually true.

00:14:12.340 No, the statistic you're talking about is people who have faced domestic violence.

00:14:15.940 Lesbians, yes, are more likely to have faced domestic violence, but that's because they're,

00:14:19.500 this is just, that's why women can't argue.

00:14:21.300 It's like, now we're just going with semantics.

00:14:23.160 They typically came from relationships with men in which they're in history.

00:14:26.160 No, lesbian relationships are the most violent relationships that we have on the book.

00:14:29.220 But we can move on.

00:14:29.900 Statistically, they can fact check that claim.

00:14:31.120 The point being is that it's not exactly a stunning statistic to say that when people

00:14:34.360 are in relationships, period, whether those relationships are homosexual, whether they're

00:14:37.340 But you're saying that the sexual revolution.

00:14:39.580 Let me, let me finish.

00:14:40.200 I've let you try to explain how this is correlated to happiness, and I don't think it does.

00:14:43.900 I actually think you're, you're having a different debate right now.

00:14:46.620 But yes, absolutely, it makes perfect sense that.

00:14:50.020 I think arguing about happiness is stupid.

00:14:53.600 I probably, you know, I've had a long career.

00:14:55.700 I'm sure I've said stuff.

00:14:58.560 But I just don't think it's a good use of time.

00:15:05.240 Because happiness, you know, like some days I just wake up and I'm kind of down.

00:15:12.360 Oh, another day, you know, happiness is highly correlated to where women are in their cycles.

00:15:17.620 If I had to rate women's happiness based on their life outcomes, okay, this is what

00:15:22.320 I believe.

00:15:23.860 Women married to alphas are on the top, or that got commitment from an alpha, women that

00:15:29.780 are childless, women that are married to betas.

00:15:32.900 Unfortunately, through women's actions, we see that women do not want to be married to

00:15:38.160 betas, they don't. It's, it's kind of sad. It's not moral, but like, that's where you

00:15:44.920 get when women, it's like they crash out at 40. And they're like, Oh, I just missed out

00:15:50.560 on so much and whatever. And like, they, it's because they realized their husband's not what

00:15:55.940 they wanted. Unfortunately, you are more likely in general, when you are in a relationship,

00:16:01.300 because people are driven by anger by people that they know, whether or not we're talking

00:16:05.560 about boyfriend and girlfriend, girlfriend and girlfriend, you know, a husband and a wife.

00:16:10.840 Yeah, exactly. Most women would rather be single than married to a beta. Correct.

00:16:15.420 Correct. And women crash out at like 30, 28, 35, whenever it hits them where they can't attract

00:16:22.160 the attention of alphas. Some women can hold on to it a little bit longer. Some hold on to it a

00:16:26.900 little bit less. Yeah. So I've been in a husband or a wife and a wife. Yes, of course, the instances

00:16:33.420 of domestic violence are going to take place when you're inside of a home. But the sexual revolution,

00:16:39.180 encouraging women to give up their goods for free, which is what I'm speaking about and encouraging

00:16:43.060 men not to marry these women or to have long term relationships, what I am saying. Now, Candace.

00:16:48.540 A funny thing happens when you're doing commentary. You see a lot of women that do egregious things.

00:17:00.500 And I think the worst thing that you can do is think that you're like special or different or

00:17:05.500 whatever, just because you have a different belief system. I've learned I used to think that women with

00:17:11.360 conservative belief systems were very different. And I think that's why I go kind of hard against them

00:17:17.820 now because I see now that they're the same. Candace Owens. Let's I have a hard time believing

00:17:27.580 that she has a body count less than five. Let's say. And I really think you can't. How many bodies

00:17:37.480 would you say a woman can have where you can still claim her to be like pure or innocent?

00:17:46.000 Personally, I would say like three, two, maybe two, three. Right.

00:17:51.160 So. But you expect me to believe like, because this is how I think. Right.

00:18:04.200 You were you. Did you really have a 100 percent relationship rate having sex? You could be a

00:18:11.480 woman with very good intentions or bad intentions. Right. So I have to believe that you never wanted

00:18:17.620 to have casual sex. You always were going for relationships. OK, fine. Now, let's say you were

00:18:24.080 always going for relationships. You're telling me you had a 100 percent rate that you never got pumped

00:18:29.700 and dumped or ghosted. How about zero? Look, I'm just I'm just being realistic. So the way I would

00:18:43.040 calculate, I would I would ask when the girl started, because I don't know that some girls start in middle

00:18:50.480 school. Right. Some girls start in high school. Some girls start in college. Some girls, it's like

00:18:55.140 delayed. And I do see that with Gen Z. They're like starting later. But the girl will go for the

00:19:01.040 best guy at high school, get pumped and dumped and then take let's say let's say she has a 50 percent

00:19:06.560 commitment rate, which I would say for women is decently good. OK, two in high school, two in college,

00:19:14.600 two in a major city, every major city you've lived in. So we're going to do eight dudes because I think

00:19:22.480 she lived in New York. You're right, you'll never know the the numbers, but I've been asking the

00:19:33.220 question recently, how many got like and it's probably higher, but I'm going to say I'm giving

00:19:38.900 her every benefit of the doubt. She got married at 30, two in high school, two in college, two in a

00:19:45.940 major city. And I'll give her like a five year relationship before meeting her husband.

00:19:53.260 Maybe you know what I mean? But every you have to understand every relationships a girl's had. I

00:19:58.080 have to think. So your commitment rate was 100 percent. Now, if she was really hot, I would believe

00:20:05.300 that. But she's like a five. I would put Candace as a five. You know, like if she was an eight,

00:20:21.080 I could maybe accept a 100 percent commitment rate. I know. I know women that claim to have that.

00:20:26.360 And they're really hot. So then you got to go now after a woman slept with like five dudes,

00:20:41.540 the chance that she doesn't like divorce or get fat or whatever is like five or sorry, 10, 20 percent.

00:20:49.100 I don't remember. Okay, you're going to say five. Look, even if she's a six, we know women are going

00:21:01.940 for the eights. I don't like I just you're not really going to convince me that she went to all

00:21:11.020 of these cities and did all this like I just don't believe it. And to me, the only women that

00:21:19.100 that can put their money where like Riley Gaines, I would believe that she is even though she's in

00:21:24.620 the skimpy swimsuit and like doing she did like a swimsuit magazine, I would believe she's more pure

00:21:31.760 than I would Candace. Okay. Even I would believe Riley Gaines is more pure than Brett Cooper because

00:21:38.460 Brett was in a sorority at a big college where Riley like she was. I think she met her. She met her

00:21:47.840 Chad husband in college and she's pretty cute. I would say she's like a seven, I would say anyways. So

00:21:57.200 I'm just, I'm just trying to be realistic because she's going to signal purity. I saw clips of this

00:22:04.760 and you just can't signal purity to me. And I think sometimes people talk long enough. You kind

00:22:12.920 start to believe your own, you know, your own BS. So I got to, I got to, I got to talk about this.

00:22:18.240 Is a direct contributor to their unhappiness because women are giving up their goods for free

00:22:23.880 and women are now entering the workplace and that does not actually make them.

00:22:27.720 Now you said Brett doesn't give me ho vibes. Well, I'm look at, she might not even be a crazy ho,

00:22:34.120 but you expect me to believe. Now we have to remember the bigger the college,

00:22:39.700 the bigger the ability to be the hoe, be a hoe without ruining your reputation.

00:22:43.920 If you move cities, there's a bigger ability to be a hoe without ruining your reputation.

00:22:51.060 From what I understand, she was emancipated at like 15, 16. So now she lives alone at 15, 16.

00:22:59.100 She goes to a college that's big. I'd have to double check. I believe it was a big school.

00:23:04.580 You are not going to convince me. She didn't get a couple of bodies a year.

00:23:13.960 Look, I, you might believe it, but we just got to be realistic guys. You know,

00:23:19.520 if maybe she had a boyfriend all of college, well, even if she had a boyfriend,

00:23:23.340 do I believe that she's hot enough to have, cause remember women are going for alphas.

00:23:28.540 That's who women go for first. And if he's an alpha, that means he can and will do better if he

00:23:35.000 can. Um, and again, Brett's cute. I would put her a six. I would put Brett as a six. Riley Gaines as a

00:23:42.400 seven. Candace Owens five. That's, that's what I would rate him. Now, obviously if you guys are

00:23:47.020 really into blondes, then Riley becomes an aid. If you're really into brunettes, you know, and I can

00:23:51.760 tell you these, none of these women are really higher than a seven because they would be in playboy.

00:23:56.680 They wouldn't be in conservative media. Mids go to conservative media. None of them are hot

00:24:01.080 enough to garner attention. And as like a bottle girl, like you've seen Myron's girlfriend. Like,

00:24:05.880 I think she worked, um, like, I think she, it was like a waitress in Miami, but something like that,

00:24:12.100 but she's beautiful enough to do it. Right. That's where the hot women go. Um,

00:24:20.040 you might say she's not a five, but I do casting. I do entertainment. Um, I, I understand that.

00:24:25.800 Like, like the, the challenge is women are so fat that it does inflate everything, but that it just

00:24:33.440 means like, imagine it just means like a basketball league got worse. And so now you're dunking on

00:24:39.560 everybody, but it doesn't mean you're better. Like that's kind of how I equate it.

00:24:43.340 Uh, maybe she didn't hoe herself out. Well, but do you see what you guys like? That's simping right

00:24:52.680 there. Why do you guys is your reaction to give the benefit of the doubt? She's an actress, you know,

00:24:58.420 I don't have to give you the benefit of the doubt. I don't now to be fair, Brett Cooper did put her

00:25:04.620 money where her mouth is. And she married at like 22, but, but, but what were you doing in college?

00:25:13.440 You know, you, what were you doing in high school?

00:25:17.960 You guys, I don't give the benefit of the doubt. Um, like some of you guys do happy. Okay. Pause.

00:25:28.860 Sorry. You've been voted out by the majority. Please return to your seat.

00:25:39.260 Hello. Hi there. How are you? I'm Candace. Nice to meet you. Um, Julian, my pronouns are they,

00:25:45.300 them. It's very interesting to think of it. I want me to think about the gender binary. Um,

00:25:49.120 it's, you know, how do we. Right. Now someone said Brett's pregnant. Totally.

00:25:53.540 But why, if you're pregnant, why is your focus not on your family? And now she's accepting a job at

00:26:00.700 Fox news. Now, again, like, I believe these women, if they start putting their money where their mouth

00:26:06.600 is and they start leaving the public eye, well, how do I put this? I'll believe that they're what

00:26:12.260 they say they are, but if they're not what they, if they don't do that, they're just not what they say

00:26:17.540 they are. I'm not saying like, I always try to be clear. I'm not special. I'm not different. I'm not

00:26:25.460 like, I'm not, I'm a woman, but we got to be realistic here that so are they, right? Everyone

00:26:32.640 is. You place value on human beings in general. And so when we think about, you know, placing value

00:26:38.760 that comes from a place of power, right? So I think let's select like the Victorian era. You have

00:26:43.820 this dominant group of people coming from white supremacy, deciding who gets to have a proper

00:26:50.740 status in the world. And so that is already like placed, taking human beings and devaluing them.

00:26:57.060 And so what the sexual revolution did was to help people seek out empowerment, which increase value,

00:27:03.220 no matter the gender. So when it comes to sexual revolution, let's look at one contribution is sex

00:27:08.660 education. I'm actually an educator. I teach a sociology and LGBTQ studies, and I have absolutely

00:27:14.660 seen the positive outcome with the sexual revolution and sex education and seeing people empower

00:27:19.600 themselves. And with that comes safety when it comes to decreasing STIs, abuse, sexual assault.

00:27:28.000 Again, people get to empower themselves of all genders. And I know earlier you mentioned about

00:27:32.620 violence amongst lesbians and sapphic community, which I do identify within.

00:27:37.180 All genders can be subjected to violence. That was the point I was making. So I wasn't sure of how

00:27:44.500 her claim was relating to what we were talking about, whether or not it makes people happy or

00:27:47.960 unhappy. Relationships are obviously a ground where there can be violence. I guess I could just wrap it

00:27:54.040 up by saying like, if we all have access to like sex education through the incredible work of feminists

00:27:59.360 through the sex. I actually do believe in sex education, but not through the schools, but I'm actually

00:28:06.680 going to do a sex ed show one of these days. Sexual revolution. We are able to gain access to

00:28:13.700 information and gain skills to create. Oh, Riley Gaines went to LSU. Okay. I'm look at, but she had a

00:28:19.800 boyfriend throughout college, I think. I don't, I don't, I don't really care, but you guys, you guys get

00:28:24.360 the point I'm making. An equitable society, egalitarian within our relationships, whether it be

00:28:29.580 platonic or romantic. I'm so grateful for those feminists who have fought for us so we can gain

00:28:34.700 those spaces and create a healthier society. Okay. Are you a believer in the government doing

00:28:40.320 everything that it can to make people happy? So when it comes, as someone that teaches in the public

00:28:44.700 sector, I understand the concern when it comes to what is a teacher, you know, what kind of information

00:28:49.900 they're providing to the students. I do believe that we, as a teacher, I should be able to give

00:28:57.600 that sort of information. Again, I teach college students. One of my claims is I believe that we

00:29:02.000 should mandate a sex education amongst college students. So yes. I don't Google it. Do you know

00:29:08.920 what I mean? Like, why am I wasting my tax dollars to teach you how to have sex? There's corn on the

00:29:16.240 internet. There's Google. Um, there's friends and family. I just don't want to pay. I don't want to

00:29:22.260 pay for that to be taught this by some weird person that wants to talk to teenagers and young adults

00:29:27.620 about sex. I don't. I do want the state. I would like the government to give us those resources so we

00:29:34.920 can implement that curriculum. Okay. Would you, are you consider yourself a feminist, I'm assuming?

00:29:40.600 Uh, queer feminist. There's, there's different, there's variations, right? What is a queer feminist

00:29:45.480 as opposed to a feminist? Just so I understand. Well, like, so I heavily believe in queer theory. So,

00:29:51.080 you know, the gender binary that we understand, it comes from colonization. So someone who is mixed race,

00:29:56.760 um, family from Mexico, you know, um, we have the Moshes in Mexico, which is an indigenous tribe. They

00:30:02.040 believed in gender fluidity. And then you have European colonizers coming who dismantle that.

00:30:07.560 And now everything that we understand when it comes to gender is a Western lens. So from a queer,

00:30:11.960 you don't even think women exist. I'm guessing. I think everyone should be empowered to figure

00:30:16.680 out their identity and explore the language that best describes themselves. So freedom America, right?

00:30:22.840 America freedom. And I want to believe in that when it comes to identity, everyone should have the

00:30:27.080 freedom to decide how they want to identify as long as they're not causing harm. But that's where we get

00:30:31.960 into the debate. What is harm? So just again, to be clear, to go back to this claim, we are debating

00:30:36.920 female happiness. You are saying you do not identify as a female. I identify with all gender

00:30:43.080 expressions. So from masculinity to femininity. I, so, so I'm just saying. Yeah. Why is the,

00:30:49.480 why is she here? Like why, why? Okay. Are you just saying that as, as a part of queer theory,

00:30:55.000 you're debating whether or not women are happier after the sexual revolution? I'm just trying to

00:30:58.920 understand because it seems like you're debating queer theory as opposed to a female. I believe

00:31:02.600 all genders benefit from the sexual revolution. You've been voted out by the majority. Please

00:31:06.520 return. Thank God. To your seat.

00:31:18.600 Hello. I'm Zena. Zena. Very much like your name. Thank you so much. Nice to meet you. Can we start

00:31:23.640 with the beginning? Do you identify as a female? I identify as a woman. Yeah. Okay.

00:31:28.040 Right. So I do want to like get back to your premise. You're saying that women have been devalued,

00:31:32.520 right? By the sexual revolution. This like kind of presumes two things. One that there has been a loss

00:31:38.520 of worth, right? For women. So you're saying that women have, as human beings, lost worth. Women who,

00:31:45.240 prior to their sexual revolution, were worth more than women today. I would say that, yes, women have

00:31:51.880 devalued themselves by becoming overtly sexual. That's my claim. So I mean, also according to just,

00:31:58.280 and let's not remove this from the other part of the claim, which that has, it has made women

00:32:02.680 infinitely less happy. Right. So are you saying, but you're saying that according to you, women have

00:32:07.640 been devalued? Not according to me. According to the time in which people are getting married,

00:32:13.320 how difficult it is for people to find a partner that's willing to commit to them. And I think that's

00:32:16.760 in large women don't want commitment. They don't, they don't want to be mothers and they don't want

00:32:21.800 to be wives because if Candace Owens really wanted to be a mother and a wife first, she'd put it away,

00:32:26.600 but she won't. Right. And I'm not even saying she should look, she could, but if you mess your kids

00:32:34.040 up, I don't care. Like I was raised by nannies. I'd say I'm good enough. I could be better, but like,

00:32:41.240 you know, maybe I'm like, I'm like, maybe not, not completely, but strong influence from them.

00:32:48.440 You know, maybe if I, maybe I wouldn't be on the internet doing this stuff, but you know, here I am.

00:32:55.240 Part due to the fact that women are offering sex for free because it was a main, you know,

00:32:59.720 major component of the sexual revolution was this idea. So woman's worth is tied to her sexuality.

00:33:04.920 It's not, it's not tied to, well, absolutely. If you're going to be having multiple partners,

00:33:08.600 you are going to be devaluing yourself. I do. Yeah. So to be honest, um,

00:33:17.240 men pick beauty before purity.

00:33:22.680 They do. So your number one value is, is tied to your sexuality in a way as a woman,

00:33:30.040 because the promise of sex, like gets guys to do stuff for you and you can monetize it in different

00:33:37.560 ways. In a way, Candace is monetizing her sexuality. Um, because she does the, you know,

00:33:43.320 I'm special and different grift and, you know, um, trying to say in a different way.

00:33:51.640 I know she's not like overly sexual. Like she doesn't wear super, whatever stuff, but she would

00:33:57.240 not be as famous if she was a man. That's a better way to put it.

00:34:00.200 Worthless as a human being, not as a human being, just, you know, in terms of trying to have a

00:34:06.040 partnership and a productive. Beauty isn't purity. Look, I, you guys can say what you want,

00:34:11.240 but I see what you guys respond to.

00:34:15.720 Youth and beauty is your number one cure currency. Purity is third.

00:34:22.280 Um, the only reason men go down on beauty is because they want to be treated a little bit better,

00:34:27.880 but beauty will get women opportunities and in the door. Um, it will get them in the door and

00:34:35.080 have opportunities. Even that a girl that like, if you take a five or an eight, the eight's gonna

00:34:41.320 have more chances at relationships, more chances at marriage, despite her body count, even than the

00:34:46.920 five, you might not agree with it, but it all starts with a swipe, right? That's where it starts.

00:34:54.360 It all starts with him asking her out. It's not like we have these niche communities where you get

00:35:00.120 to know the five, she works her way up. No, most people are meeting on dating apps. Do you know how

00:35:06.040 that starts? Your face, your tits, your ass. That's how it starts. Um, yeah. So

00:35:15.720 yeah, I understand that you might have, you might pick like, let's say, okay, let's say you have a

00:35:23.480 five and an eight and you're a guy that gets girls. Cause remember women only want the alpha. So the

00:35:28.280 only real relationships, like if I was a guy, I wouldn't consider a relationship with any woman

00:35:33.560 that doesn't view me as alpha. I wouldn't because like, that's the only chance you have as a girl

00:35:39.160 staying. It truly is. If a girl's making you wait for sex, like, because in the past she had to stay

00:35:46.200 for security, but now women are bailed out by the government. Um, they're bailed out. They can get

00:35:51.320 jobs. They don't need money anymore. So the only thing women need is excitement. So, um, like there's

00:35:58.920 no need for men to provide. Um, but like if, if a guy that has choice, he's banging an eight,

00:36:05.720 a seven and a six. Now the six might, he might pick the six for long-term,

00:36:14.040 but the five didn't even get in the door. Look, because he's going to say, which girl am I going

00:36:19.480 to go on a date with this eight or the five? And if they both say, yes, he's going on the day with

00:36:24.200 the eight and the eight got in the door. The five did not. And I know what you're thinking. You're like,

00:36:31.640 pearl pearl, but pearl women. Why doesn't, why don't they, women just date guys on their league?

00:36:39.320 Yeah. Okay. Like, have you not watched this show? I like threes. Cause I have double vision

00:36:49.480 relationships. Certainly men are not. Yeah. A five woman pulls eight, nine, 10 men, a five man pulls

00:36:54.440 two, three, four women. That power weapon is beauty. Beauty comes first and it pisses, you know,

00:37:00.040 non-hot women off because we'll see hot women. I've seen hot women do terrible things

00:37:06.760 and men will still pick her. You know, men will still, I mean, she's hot.

00:37:13.080 Yeah. The five got in, but only through the back door. True.

00:37:15.880 Not going to be clamoring to have a relationship with somebody when there's the market.

00:37:20.040 So I'm throwing them. A man's response to your actions is.

00:37:23.560 And men do wife hoes. Let's not, I used to, men don't want to,

00:37:27.560 but for how much you guys, for the amount of pushback, I just got in the chat where I said,

00:37:34.600 do you know what? I bet Brett caught a couple bodies in college.

00:37:39.320 I didn't say she all out hoed out. But I, when I said, you know, Candace lived in a big city,

00:37:44.520 I bet she threw her back a bit. I think that's a fair assessment. And then you guys said, no, no, no, no,

00:37:51.720 no, no, no. That's how I know you guys will wife hoes because you guys are so will not you. I know

00:37:58.200 some of you are RP, but a lot of guys are so willing to just give every benefit of the doubt

00:38:04.440 they can possibly give because women say they're, they're pure. I mean, you could say anything.

00:38:10.520 Um, am I a million? I think I should, I am a millionaire. I'm a multi bajillionaire. Do you

00:38:18.120 guys believe me? No. Women have to prove they're not hoes. What defines your work? Don't kill the dream.

00:38:28.040 Okay. Well, I, what I'm saying is she might not be a hoe if she's an eight, but none of these women are

00:38:35.400 great. Right. Yeah. Well, um, I would say that I would argue that at the, what makes women actually

00:38:44.920 happy is family. So if you're interrupting, so I'm just to connect the dots for you. When women are

00:38:51.560 having sex with multiple partners, it devalues them for men, right? For men. Yes. So men define a

00:38:56.040 woman's worth. Well, I would say both of them kind of define one another's worth because I think the

00:38:59.960 ultimate goal for people to be happy is actually family. Okay. So you're saying in all cases,

00:39:05.400 a woman is going to be more fulfilled in regards to family. Like that's exactly what I'm saying.

00:39:09.400 And this is going to work in all cases. You're saying there's no individual case in which a woman

00:39:12.680 can feel, you know, fulfilled without being tied to other people in the case of family.

00:39:19.160 I think there could be an exceptional case for everything. I think there are exceptional cases.

00:39:26.120 Controversial opinion. I don't think women, I think women,

00:39:30.680 as a woman, it is your job to make yourself happy. You cannot put that on your kids or your husband.

00:39:38.600 That's your own job. It is your own job to make yourself happy. I think you have your own responsibility

00:39:48.280 to be happy. So I think that the family, thank you. $50, Carlos, you shouldn't have.

00:40:00.280 Now the family could make you more fulfilled hypothetically, but you know, I just got to

00:40:06.440 look at what women are doing. I'd really like to believe that. And I think at one point I did, but

00:40:11.080 I just kept looking at what women were doing. If women wanted family and to be mothers so bad,

00:40:16.760 why did they kill eighth of the world population? We would have a second city of London if it weren't

00:40:21.720 for abortion. If women wanted it so bad, why is it when women are 22, they're not like dying to have

00:40:28.200 kids and be a mother? So I just kind of had to look at it and say, do you know what? I don't think women

00:40:35.560 want it as much as we previously thought. I don't. Um, and even this rhetoric, I'm looking at this and

00:40:44.120 I'm thinking you can't put being happy on your kids or all your family. It's not fair to your kids

00:40:49.560 to make them responsible for your happiness. It's not fair to your husband. If your husband left you

00:40:55.800 tomorrow, you got to figure out a way to be happy. That's your burden in life. It just is what it is.

00:41:00.120 Um, yeah. But I think that if we all start trying to be the exception as opposed to recognizing the

00:41:07.640 rule, which is that people in life are more fulfilled when they achieve a family unit and

00:41:13.480 when they have children, women in particular, especially having aspiring to children,

00:41:17.880 then you are going to end up with a bunch of people who are unhappy because your job

00:41:22.280 cannot replace the feeling of having a family. So what you're saying is we need to look at

00:41:27.960 every individual case and see what is going to fulfill you or what is going to,

00:41:31.720 I guess, essentially predict your happiness more. I'm not here to look at,

00:41:37.720 this is what conservatives miss. Women are not happy with beta husbands. They're not.

00:41:44.200 And their actions proved it. Not what they say, what they did.

00:41:48.760 Um, if women were so happy with beta husbands, why do they keep killing their kids? Why do they keep

00:41:54.280 divorcing them and leaving them? They're not happy with them. They're not. Um, so

00:42:01.640 I just tell women to go for alphas and try to get one.

00:42:04.520 And it's not because I think most women will, but what I'm going to tell her to go torture a beta guy

00:42:17.400 or a guy that she views is like, not good. Like, do you know what it's like? Have you,

00:42:21.160 have any of you guys been married to a woman who she thinks she's better than you, or she thinks

00:42:26.040 you're like her second choice. I don't tell women, I say, go for the men you want. And it's not

00:42:31.960 because it's really, it's in the guy's best interest. It's in the guy's best interest. Now,

00:42:40.840 you need money to have kids. Not necessarily. Um, you need money to have kids today because women

00:42:47.480 want the latest fashion, um, the latest clothes, the latest diapers, a house, not an apartment.

00:42:54.600 I mean, I, I know people that were raised in apartments and they're fine.

00:43:01.960 Yeah. Yeah. And those woman, yeah, as a woman, like, that's why I almost think these happiness

00:43:08.680 conversations are bad. They're not bad, but are fruitless because you're either a happy person

00:43:15.320 or you're not. Or because if we look at, for example, the Nordic countries, right? These are

00:43:19.880 countries I'm talking about like Sweden, Denmark, right? These countries tend to be like, I think

00:43:25.240 in the past 14 years, they've been ranked as the highest in happiness and marital satisfaction from

00:43:29.800 women. Right. And we see that they also have been the most open regards to like, you know, sexual norms

00:43:34.520 and, and, you know, sexual roles. Right. So, and we also see that there's less. Well, and remember,

00:43:38.680 there's alpha guys that go after, like, I would put, okay, I know guys that you could say like,

00:43:47.160 I'm going to just say alpha, non alpha. I don't know, but I hate the terms, but I just, I got to

00:43:53.640 use something. I really don't like alpha and beta, but there's alpha guys that run through the 30 year

00:43:59.240 old women. There's alpha guys that run through the 40 year old women, women age out of like the top

00:44:03.880 alphas and then go to the second alphas in their thirties that are like, they're running through

00:44:07.480 those women and so forth. It's of like STD is reported. Um, we see, um, more, um, and that's

00:44:14.200 also due to comprehensive sex education that's pushing those countries. So we see that when we,

00:44:18.200 and that's like, perhaps women can be happy with non alphas if they can bond and not have a body count

00:44:22.840 over five. Yeah. And, and I think that's why partially men like the younger women. I mean,

00:44:26.920 they don't have to compete as much, right? You don't, you have to compete with like two dudes.

00:44:30.520 That's amazing. Um, and so it's kind of like, uh, it's like a workaround. Right. Um, but it doesn't

00:44:40.120 work now because women will meet a more alpha, more Chad guy than you at work, um, at home,

00:44:47.320 the pool. That's why women end up screwing the pool boy. Right. Um,

00:44:53.080 unfortunately, if that were true, then all the people that married young would, um,

00:44:58.680 um, they would stay married, but now they divorce more than people that marry later.

00:45:03.560 And it's cause women, you're basically telling women, give up being a celebrity to be with me.

00:45:09.480 How many men would give up being a, like a LeBron James to be with a woman? You probably wouldn't,

00:45:16.440 right? Um, like to have all these high level women, not high level, hot women chasing you,

00:45:22.120 it'd be pretty hard to get you to settle down. That's what you're telling women to do.

00:45:26.040 Good luck. Um, using the word alpha is generalizing. Do you guys want to understand

00:45:32.840 what I'm saying? Or are you just going to pick? I understand it's not a perfect term,

00:45:36.920 but I gotta, I gotta use a placeholder term. A direct result of the sexual revolution,

00:45:41.560 right? So when we're seeing that direct reports of happiness, right? We don't have the same rates.

00:45:45.320 Earl keeps telling the truth. Women love Neiman Marcus. Who doesn't all women and men are the same.

00:45:50.200 Remember we are all the same overall. I don't think we're the same, but I don't know what you're,

00:45:55.320 okay. America in these countries that are more sexually open. Why would we see like those rates

00:46:00.040 in those types of countries? So I think you might be referring to this sort of mass produced study

00:46:04.680 that was a part of like a behavioral science study, which said that. Now here's the issue. I,

00:46:10.040 all right. I use studies on my channel and facts and statistics because I have to, I have to, I do.

00:46:17.000 Um, but the, the challenge you get is in academia. There is no incentive to produce honest studies if

00:46:28.120 it ruins your career. And so I don't like my first way that I am going to see the world is through my

00:46:36.440 eyes and what I see. Second is facts, data, and statistics. You're not going to give me a study

00:46:43.240 and say, don't believe what's in front of your eyes. You can't do it. Women were the happiest

00:46:49.880 women in the world or women that were actually unmarried and had careers now. Okay. Well,

00:46:53.960 there was happiness. Okay. Sure. I'm talking about the same thing. It was reported happiness,

00:46:57.960 but it could be a different, there's tons of studies. The point being is that in 20, in 2023,

00:47:02.600 there was this massive scandal where they recognize that a lot of these studies that were being produced,

00:47:07.560 behavioral science was proven to be a complete fraud. And they were unable to reproduce these studies.

00:47:11.960 And they also found that the data had been faked. The data that we can look at that I think shows,

00:47:16.200 and you can let me know if you agree with this, if women and under the imagination of the feminist

00:47:21.160 umbrella were really unhappy when they were in the home and then entering the workforce has made women

00:47:27.400 happier and infinitely feeling more secure about themselves, we could, I think, reasonably expect

00:47:33.480 that there would have been a decrease in suicide rates amongst women. You would have to go ahead and

00:47:40.040 show how that correlation, right, is going to be a direct cause of women going into the workforce.

00:47:45.400 Okay. Well, how can we measure, then you have to give me a way that we can measure happiness. How

00:47:48.680 can we measure happiness? So I would say suicide rates would be a good thing to look at. Drug,

00:47:52.920 alcohol consumption would be. Of course. Right. But we would have to, we can say,

00:47:56.200 I can say at this point in society, oh, I don't think everyone. Yeah. But women,

00:47:59.640 I don't like alcohol consumption because women are doing that to party.

00:48:04.360 You know, women love roaring, like women are one of the biggest binge drinkers in the United States.

00:48:11.320 So I don't, I don't know alcohol, maybe antidepressant suicide rate. I would agree.

00:48:14.840 Everyone's happy. I think there's a lot of things that we need to reconcile.

00:48:17.720 Okay. That's what I'm getting at.

00:48:18.840 Right. But we have to look at the cause, right? Why are these things predicted? Right. And, and for

00:48:23.880 example, if we talk about men, there are a lot of things we can look at, right. That, that, you know,

00:48:28.200 tend to predetermine suicide. Right. But we can't say, oh, these two things are happening at the same

00:48:33.320 time. This caused this other thing. Yes, that's right. But I do think that we could objectively say

00:48:37.640 that women who are, are committing suicide rates more than they were in the 1950s. Like it has,

00:48:43.880 it has actually increased marginally. That's not a sign that the.

00:48:49.720 Statistically unchanged. Yeah. Women are kind of pussies. They're not going to do it.

00:48:56.440 Sorry. I shouldn't say that. So entering the workforce suddenly made us.

00:49:00.360 How is the cause of the workforce? We've all, we're also binge, binge drinking at a higher rate.

00:49:04.760 How's this cause of opioids at a higher rate? How's this the cause of entering the workforce?

00:49:08.360 Because I think women are being put on a pathway aspirationally.

00:49:12.280 But you're going to have to, you're saying you think this, right? But where is, where's the cause?

00:49:15.800 Like you're, you're not, you're not, you know, substantiating the claim. You're saying,

00:49:18.840 this is what I think I'm seeing too. Okay. Pause. You've been voted out by the majority.

00:49:22.360 Uh, so low Cal says we are in the same life. Um, wait,

00:49:26.760 we are the same in life is, is what we want. This is why we have this dynamic.

00:49:31.800 It will never change. Love it. Accept it. Why fight it? Yeah, I've accepted.

00:49:35.000 I wish I fought it less. Some of the fighting was embarrassing. I wish I,

00:49:45.480 yeah, I, I just got to accept things the way they are.

00:49:48.280 Please return to your seat. Thank you so much. Great job. Great job.

00:49:51.960 Hello. Hi. Hi, I'm Nikki. Nice to meet you. So when we're talking about the value of women,

00:50:04.360 uh, on a societal scale and how we view each other, right? When you're devaluing us, you're objectifying

00:50:11.560 us and follow me, I promise, but rape rates have gone down by about half in the last 20 years.

00:50:20.920 Right? So if you're saying we're less valuable now, why wouldn't we be suffering at a higher rate?

00:50:29.080 So is the argument that you're making, just so I understand that because women are giving up sex

00:50:33.560 for free, they're not being raped. Every study shows rape is not correlated with just sexual

00:50:38.760 gratification. It is a power structure. Okay. So it is about objectifying and abusing women when you

00:50:45.000 rape them, not about whether or not you want sex. What I am saying is that women are less objectified.

00:50:51.080 Well, I would say that there's way more consequences. Men are like,

00:50:54.360 the men are giving out consent forms nowadays. So therefore we are being raped less. Okay. So you

00:50:59.480 think that in today's society, cause this is, this is pretty wild for me. In the 1950s, you're saying

00:51:06.600 women were more objectified than today in the land of only fans, the Kardashian clan and women that are

00:51:14.440 essentially putting up their boobs and butts for free on Instagram. You're saying we are now, we finally

00:51:20.120 have achieved. I don't like that language. Yeah. Women objectify themselves. Men are a utility. Women.

00:51:26.520 Yeah. I don't put women are not objectified. Women objectify themselves. I was going to say the same

00:51:32.360 thing. It's less objectification where women can't even get onto an advertising. You can't even advertise

00:51:38.680 a bag without them having to be naked in order for them to get it. Do you see right there? It's not

00:51:44.680 women having to be naked. It's women wanting and getting naked because they want the power that comes

00:51:52.120 with getting naked. How many views would I get if I just, I'm not, I'm not going to, but

00:52:00.760 you guys see like, because there's power in it. Career as a model, you're saying, oh great, we've

00:52:06.360 achieved actually less objectification. So I'm not trying to suggest that I think that the over

00:52:13.080 commodification of women's bodies is positive. But what I am saying is that when you're going to the 1950s,

00:52:20.120 that we shouldn't put this glazed look of, oh, it was so happy. We had single income households and

00:52:24.920 we got to stay home. We also had a pill popping problem. We also reviewed as maids. Like we were

00:52:30.440 seen as a house appliance far more than we were as people. And so when you have that kind of

00:52:36.280 objectification where you are in a subservient position, I think we're facing a different form

00:52:43.640 today, but I think that rape is a signifier of a contradiction to your statement. Okay. Does that

00:52:51.320 make sense? Um, it doesn't make sense, but I do want to rebut it on a couple of points. So first,

00:52:55.160 I just want to say suggesting that objectification is, has gone downward since the 1950s is wild.

00:53:01.560 That's just a firm, no, that is not the truth. And you know, that's not true. Wait, so do you

00:53:04.760 feel like, hold on, let me, let me answer your second thing. Second thing you, you then brought up,

00:53:08.520 okay, women were at home, but they were pill popping. Well, it's, you then have to acknowledge

00:53:12.840 we're actually popping more pills now, right? So we have actually increased our amount of pill

00:53:17.800 popping. Women are having overdoses on opioids. And on top of that, since I think 1999 by rate,

00:53:24.760 we are increasing our opioid use compared to men. So women are not popping pills less because we're

00:53:30.360 going into the workforce. That's actually not true at all either. Or so we're, and we're also,

00:53:34.600 like I said to consuming alcohol more and binge drinking more than we did in the 1950s,

00:53:38.760 which is why I was trying to get her to say, we need to look at actually a reasonable,

00:53:42.520 give me any reasonable metric of how we can define happiness. Cause it's hard, right?

00:53:45.720 Are you happy? Yes or no. But you're wait, hold on. We're actually avoiding what my original point

00:53:49.800 was, was about rape being the signifier. Okay. Pause. You've been voted out by the majority.

00:53:54.440 Please return to your seat. Thank you. Nice to meet you.

00:53:57.720 Hi. Hi. I like your hat. The men in the circle are wolves in sheep's clothing. They're going to

00:54:09.000 portray it as feminist allies and hopes of banging one of the women in the group. Look at destiny.

00:54:14.040 They probably will. I mean, some of these girls aren't bad. They're not bad. Whitney Shanahan.

00:54:19.480 Nice to meet you. I, not her. She's not that cute, but I'm fascinated by your claim

00:54:27.160 that women have lost happiness since the sexual revolution, since the 1950s.

00:54:33.240 Such a dumb argument. Like at what point in their life did they lose happiness?

00:54:41.400 This is how it goes. Women married to Alpha is happy. Women alone, less happy. Women married to Beta

00:54:47.800 is least happy. That's why they keep killing their kids. Do you think that there's any tie

00:54:53.800 to happiness and freedom and happiness and choice? Because since 1950s, since the sexual revolution,

00:55:03.160 women have gotten exponentially more freedom and more choice. And for me, as a mother and as a woman,

00:55:11.960 having the freedom to choose what I do, to make my own destiny, makes me infinitely more happy than say,

00:55:18.520 say, back before the sexual revolution, when I couldn't get a bank account, couldn't get a home

00:55:23.960 loan, couldn't work outside the home, couldn't travel around without a man, couldn't control my

00:55:29.480 own reproduction. So I feel the happiness, personally, my...

00:55:33.240 Do you know what? I actually think women should have the right to do all that stuff. You have the

00:55:38.760 right to hell. I do. I think you have the right. I think people have the right to their hell. What I

00:55:43.240 don't like is that women don't have the consequences from those, the hell. Like you have to pay your debt

00:55:49.160 back. You can't just declare bankruptcy. You know, maybe there's consequences for not disclosing your

00:56:00.120 STD status if you catch herpes and you're a whore, you know. Belief is tied to our ability to have

00:56:06.760 freedom. And I think that in the United States, protecting freedom and our individual freedoms is

00:56:12.600 what's going to lead us to happiness. Did you go to college? Absolutely.

00:56:17.480 Okay, great. Did you? Yes, I did. So you have a degree?

00:56:19.960 Absolutely. Now, when you went to college,

00:56:22.360 did you go to college because it was simply something that you wanted to do? Or did you think

00:56:26.680 that I have to go to college because in order to get a job, I have to have a college degree?

00:56:30.760 I went to college for art because I was fascinated with art. Okay. Just answering my question. Did you go

00:56:37.160 to... Was that the only reason you went to college? Or did you think that I might want to do something

00:56:40.920 in art? So I have to go to college, like for my career. I went to school because I wanted to expand

00:56:45.960 my horizons. I mean, I think that's why most people go to university. Why did you go?

00:56:51.080 That's actually not true. Why did you go? I went and I think a lot of people go because there's a

00:56:55.240 pressure that if you don't go to college, you're going to be a failure. It's a choice.

00:56:58.520 Everything's a choice. Okay. Taking away choices doesn't make people happier. Taking away freedom

00:57:03.160 doesn't make people happier. Yeah, but I'm actually... I'm disagreeing.

00:57:05.480 Okay, if you want to go to school, go to school, but pay your student loans.

00:57:08.600 I'm agreeing with you on the idea that people are feeling more free by financial pressure.

00:57:13.720 I think financial pressure makes people feel remarkably less free.

00:57:16.200 So you want no bank accounts again, women not to have credit cards?

00:57:18.920 I'm not saying that women shouldn't have access to credit cards or banking accounts.

00:57:22.280 You're putting words in my mouth. So why don't you respond to the words that I'm saying?

00:57:25.000 Well, less financial pressure. If I don't have a bank account, that's a lot less

00:57:28.040 financial pressure, I guess, right?

00:57:29.160 What I'm saying is that financial pressure in terms of most people that go to college,

00:57:34.040 and I'm counting myself among them, it's because typically in order to get the job that you're

00:57:39.080 being sold is going to make you infinitely happier and infinitely more free, it just requires a college

00:57:43.400 degree. And most of these people, to be clear, have to put themselves, the majority of people have to

00:57:47.480 put themselves into debt. And I don't think anybody would describe debt as a form of freedom, right?

00:57:52.280 I don't think anybody would realistically say... Let's get back to happiness. So we're here to talk

00:57:55.960 about happiness and how the sexual revolution... And we're not talking about college debt.

00:58:00.280 I think it's important because we're talking about freedom. You just said that the reason why I feel

00:58:04.920 happy is because I have more freedom. And I am saying that financial restraints and debt doesn't

00:58:10.200 make people feel more free. So let's eliminate the debt. Let's eliminate college debt. Maybe we should

00:58:14.440 have a free college here in the U.S. That sounds great. Great idea, Candice. I love that idea.

00:58:19.080 All right. I love it. Champion. Champion for the people.

00:58:23.400 I don't think this was one of Candice's better performances, actually.

00:58:27.000 We can go to college. We go to college because feminists staffed HR departments and focused on

00:58:34.120 credentials over competence. Why do they calm equals voted out loud equals celebrated?

00:58:45.240 Bring people that have want to have actual conversations. Okay.

00:58:50.440 Girl. Very nice. All right, return to your seat. Surrounded is now a podcast available wherever you

00:58:59.880 listen. Search Surrounded, plug in, and stay... It's pretty extreme and pretty like...

00:59:05.400 Children are extreme? Well, no, that women would get more happiness inherently from raising kids than

00:59:12.200 having a job or deciding what they want to do with their lives.

00:59:15.160 Yeah, because if women derived happiness from children, why do they keep killing them?

00:59:21.960 Uh, I thought so too. But I just kept coming back to this point. I'm like, if women

00:59:28.280 wanted children and to be mothers, like, why, why don't we do it? Like, you can download Hinge and

00:59:36.840 you could filter by age, height, really anything. Why is that? I'm... Honestly, Candice seems insufferable

00:59:45.640 to me. She's high and mighty. If I was her husband, I would be gone, girl. Just curious. Why would having

00:59:51.640 children, which is just a natural biological conclusion, be something that sounds extreme?

00:59:57.880 I just said inherently. Inherently. That's the inherent expectation.

01:00:01.880 Yeah. That's better for women. It's inherent because it's biological. So I think,

01:00:05.480 think about things that are inherent. I think biology is a good thing to start with, right? So

01:00:09.560 biologically speaking, men and women come together, they form families. And that's the

01:00:13.560 reason why you're sitting here. That's the reason that I'm sitting here is because biology is inherent.

01:00:18.440 So I was saying it's just, it's just natural order that we're speaking about, right?

01:00:22.920 Okay. Let's break it down. So why do you, why do you believe that? Why do you believe that?

01:00:26.680 Why do you inherently inherently are happier? Yeah. Sorry. I skipped it. No career will give women

01:00:32.920 as much joy and fulfillment in raising children. If I was going to dismantle that argument, I would

01:00:37.960 say, why did you not have children at 20? Why did you do it at 30? Because you had way more fun being

01:00:44.120 a celebrity. Look, I'm not, I, you know, I had to ask, you know, you kind of have to ask yourself

01:00:52.120 this question as a woman, you know, if we want to do it, why didn't we do it? Right? Stressing this

01:00:59.160 word inherent. Yeah. Yeah. I think because it speaks to natural order and every piece of life,

01:01:06.040 I think is enriched by children. You don't think it's natural for women to get to decide what they

01:01:09.320 want to do with their lives? I do not think that saying women can decide whether or not they want to

01:01:15.320 go to work or have children is problematic. What I'm saying to you is that women will get the most

01:01:20.680 fulfillment from having a family. Because it's natural.

01:01:24.680 Then if it's so natural to us, why don't we do it?

01:01:29.240 Because again, it's revealed stated preferences. My boyfriend taught me this actually.

01:01:34.040 I want to tell you guys this story where he kind of cooked me.

01:01:43.000 But I don't want to, I'm not going to say it. Maybe we got to build the trust. I've had too

01:01:47.160 many hit pieces on me. Like they'll, they'll cut it and be like,

01:01:54.040 ah, why? I love this level of fit. I don't want to be in the,

01:01:57.880 but anyways, again, if it was so natural to women, women would just want to do it, but we don't.

01:02:05.800 So it's natural, but also children are wonderful and beautiful and

01:02:10.520 spiritually divine creatures. I mean, they're just, they're amazing. There's everything about

01:02:13.800 how what's so amazing about them. Good evening, Pearl. Do you think married women in countries under

01:02:19.800 Islamic moral law are happier than Western women today? Have you seen any studies on this? Greetings

01:02:24.040 from Brazil. I've done spaces from guys from some of these countries and they tell me it's the same

01:02:29.240 there. Maybe it's a little bit more hidden, but women are always going to do the same thing. They

01:02:33.880 always go for the alphas, find a cleanup guy and then cheat on him with the alphas. Like it just,

01:02:38.920 you either become an alpha or you die alone. Like that's really it. Sorry guys. Um, or you take the L.

01:02:48.280 I forgot what I was talking about with this. Okay. Having a child. Yes. It's a lot of work.

01:02:53.480 It's just, it's beautiful. I hear that. Okay. What if there's a little girl born and it's her

01:03:05.640 dream her entire life to be an author or to be, you know, on TV or any of these things and having

01:03:12.040 children is very expensive. It takes a lot of time. So how is it better for that? Like,

01:03:16.760 and I understand this hypothetical, but that hypothetical little girl, uh, to have children

01:03:21.320 than to pursue these things that would make her happy as she gets. But see, that's like the

01:03:24.920 difference is men aren't controlling. I kind of understand his like point of view. Men are not

01:03:29.800 controlling. Women are controlling. So women want to like impose their morality on the world where

01:03:35.720 men are like, Hey, do what you're going to do. Cause men know that you can't nag the world into

01:03:40.680 changing where women are a little more delusional because they've seen it work. Nice seeing Ted Bundy is

01:03:45.320 alive and well. Um, Candace is so insane. She gets mad at her tampon. Lady is cracked.

01:03:49.880 I just think that what, if she publishes the book and she has a child, she would agree with me that

01:03:54.280 the child was more fulfilling and made her happy. That's what I'm happier than the book did is what

01:03:58.200 I'm saying. And I say this as a published author of the New York times, I would choose my children

01:04:03.400 over my bestselling book. And I was, but then you would have did that first choices reveal what you

01:04:09.960 really want. You like, you wouldn't, you wouldn't be here. You know what I mean? You wouldn't that

01:04:18.120 little girl who had a dream that like, Oh, it would be really great if I could share my thoughts and

01:04:22.520 ideas in a book, but it is utter insanity for me to reflect on that and say that I would have rather

01:04:30.040 published blackout than to have my three children. Why is it rather? You see what I'm saying? It's,

01:04:34.040 it's, it's not rather. I'm just saying that. Yeah. Cause Candace is a winner of feminism. She won

01:04:39.240 because men and women are arguing on who gets women's youth. Do women get to use it on themselves

01:04:45.800 or do women get to, um, give it to their husbands and men are losing because women keep pushing it off.

01:04:53.560 Um, so Candace won because remember feminism says, don't do the arranged marriage from before.

01:04:59.720 Don't marry the guy from your hometown. You can do better and get better and be hypergamous. And

01:05:04.280 it allows women to be hypergamous. So Candace could have married that guy from her high school,

01:05:09.080 could have married the guy from her college, could have married someone she met in her early career.

01:05:12.920 And she chose not to, and she chose to shoot for the moon. And then she married into 180 million.

01:05:18.440 That's called winning ladies. Take notes. I want to know when Candace, the best video that you could

01:05:24.440 ever do is how to do that. I'll tell you what, that would be your most viewed video.

01:05:31.480 It will be more fulfilled. Yes. So rather. Well, if it's an either, or if you're saying

01:05:37.000 it's either, or I'm just saying that if these two things are happening, have happened in your life,

01:05:41.240 the thing that will bring you more spiritual fulfillment will be children. And so women who

01:05:45.720 are neglecting that, who are neglecting the pathway to, you know, strive toward family because

01:05:50.840 they think their career is going to hug them at night. Or they think that when they're on their desk,

01:05:55.560 they always get really, hold on, let me show you guys something. I know I'm stopping it a lot,

01:06:00.920 Doug MPA. I'm sorry. I just got a lot to say today. Candace Owens, Joe Rogan on religion.

01:06:10.600 Uh, here we go. I think that's so bizarre to me is that we're sitting here and we're talking about

01:06:13.880 the age, like as if guns were just created, like, you know, when in reality, right, but something's

01:06:19.240 wrong, but what's wrong? It's not the guns. I'm asking you, what do you think is wrong?

01:06:23.160 Mental health. Right. So I say, I, I agree with you,

01:06:26.280 but I think it's deterioration of culture altogether. Like they used to be taught the

01:06:29.800 Bible in school. Like, you know, people, people make fun of that now. Like now we've got this

01:06:33.720 culture where you're making fun of kids. Like religion is like, we're so far away from religion.

01:06:37.960 Like that's like weird to us. Like, you know, like teaching religion is like, it's, you've got like a

01:06:41.880 scarlet letter. If you come in as like a holy Christian kid and like a normal public, public education thing,

01:06:47.000 you've got the family structure where it's like, these kids are running the house.

01:06:50.440 Is it this one? There's one where she says she's not religion. Oh, she says I don't study religion.

01:06:55.480 Okay. Oh, this is these days. Like I look on like Facebook and it's like supposed to be funny when

01:06:59.720 like a four-year-old is acting like Cardi B. I'm like, okay, yes, it's funny cause she's four,

01:07:03.800 but it's also like not funny cause she's four, right? Like, how do you feel about little Tay?

01:07:08.120 Who's little Tay? You don't know who little Tay is? I love Cardi B. I know who little Tay is.

01:07:12.200 Little Tay is kind of out of the news now because they found that it's a hustle.

01:07:15.800 She's a nine-year-old Asian girl from what? Vancouver? Is that where it's from?

01:07:20.040 And she talks mad shit, throws money around, calls everybody bitches.

01:07:23.720 And where is it? She just, she says she's not religious in this.

01:07:27.880 I used to make us read the Bible around the table. There was stricter gun gun only

01:07:32.200 by the me talks to Jesus. Think about how weird that is, right? Like how weird.

01:07:36.120 She wanted to publish frog and toad. Candace is so out of it. Pearl for real.

01:07:40.360 Keep breaking down these hoes. The bleep is insane. She thinks she's so smart.

01:07:44.040 That the stuff that we used to would be normal, like, you know, praying, talking with Jesus.

01:07:48.520 Like when I grew up, that was like my grandparents' generation. That was, everyone was religious.

01:07:53.080 And now we're so far away from that, right? That, that, that seems like,

01:07:57.400 like it's okay to mock and we roundly mock it all the time. So these, the structure in the home

01:08:03.400 is in my opinion, the most important thing that needs to change. The fact that so many people are

01:08:06.840 growing up without fathers in the home is something that needs to change. Letting your kid have...

01:08:10.680 Where is it? Hold on. That's all you need to know.

01:08:13.320 Okay. Is it here?

01:08:13.960 Like, you know, the reintroduction of, of God and teaching him to school. And I said, like,

01:08:18.520 at some point there seems to be the struggle. I have this idea that like human beings in a

01:08:22.760 certain way, we're doomed to just keep repeating history. I'm obsessed with Greek mythology. I'm

01:08:26.920 obsessed with like Egyptian history, hieroglyphics, like anything that like, where they tell stories,

01:08:32.200 especially Greek mythology, because the lessons are...

01:08:34.680 I'm sorry. I'm trying to find the clip. I know it's in this one.

01:08:38.040 I... This super smart guy is an evangelical Christian.

01:08:40.680 He is.

01:08:41.240 So does he believe like Jesus came back to life?

01:08:43.880 Yes.

01:08:44.520 Really?

01:08:44.920 Yes. He's an evangelical Christian.

01:08:46.040 So he believes that someone died and then three years, three days later,

01:08:49.880 they came back to life and that they walked on water and...

01:08:52.360 Yeah. I mean, you have to, I haven't really gotten into a thing because I'm not like,

01:08:55.400 I'm not the person that should ever be like debating or talking about religion. It's not my

01:08:59.640 like schtick, I guess.

01:09:00.760 Yeah. Okay. There it is. It's not her schtick. And now it's like in her, I find it kind of

01:09:06.440 offensive. Now I'm really not the most religious. I've said this, but I grew up Catholic and I'd say

01:09:12.920 if I had to pick, I'd be Catholic. Right? I find it a little offensive. She's like grifting this now,

01:09:19.400 because I think there's a part of me that's the biggest Catholic grifters ever. I just,

01:09:25.240 it's like, you're using this for your brand. I just don't...

01:09:28.200 Come on. Like, why does the religion have to go into the podcast? You know what I mean? I just...

01:09:36.200 God, I just can't. These influencers, they convert for like five minutes. Like you're talking about

01:09:43.560 all the spiritual stuff. That clip was a few years ago. You know, maybe you get like a decade of being

01:09:49.160 religious under your belt and then come out. But now it's, it's in...

01:09:56.520 Deathbed, their career is going to come up next to them and say, you were so great to me. I think

01:10:02.200 that they have stepped into a delusion and I'm hopeful that they wake up from it before it's too late.

01:10:07.000 All right. Pause. Sorry. You've been voted out by the majority. Please return to your seat.

01:10:10.760 I liked him actually. I thought he was cool. He was calm, made sense.

01:10:19.160 Okay. So currently women make up about 47% of the workforce. If this were the case and that women

01:10:34.040 were just inherently unhappy or unfulfilled working and would just prefer to be at home,

01:10:40.040 why don't they? Because it's, we've made that due to... The cross belongs on the altar. It's sacramental,

01:10:46.600 not a knickknack for your mantle. It's just, it's just so obvious what everyone's doing.

01:10:51.880 You get virtue signal points. So you get to like, be a good person. You get to like, be a good person

01:11:00.280 by having the knickknacks without having to do the work of being a good person.

01:11:07.800 Prior feminist waves, nearly impossible because now, which I believe that the reason that the

01:11:13.000 government wanted women to enter the workforce is because it gave them an opportunity to tax a house.

01:11:17.480 There again, there again, the government wanted to enter the workforce. No, no, no, no. Are women

01:11:23.560 responsible for their decisions or not? No. When I started my podcast, I wanted, I wanted to start it.

01:11:31.880 I'd always wanted to do it. No one put a gun to my hat and made me want to do it. I wasn't brainwashed.

01:11:36.360 I just wanted to start a podcast. It wasn't anybody else's choice. It was mine.

01:11:41.640 Sold twice. And so this goes back to what I was saying is that there's a lot of financial pressure

01:11:46.360 that is being exerted on young women to enter the workforce. And they do so blindly under this

01:11:52.040 illusion that somehow entering the workforce is going to make you more fulfilled, like getting

01:11:56.440 yourself into six figures of debt, going to college to then take on a career and be in debt and

01:12:03.640 having to pay student loans while you make 35K is going to make you happier. And I'm saying

01:12:09.400 that isn't actually true. Okay. So I hear that. Yeah. At the same time,

01:12:13.080 would you not agree that men and that women can both have a career and have children? I mean,

01:12:18.040 you are actively doing that right now. Right. And I want to be very clear because I am actively

01:12:22.200 doing it right now. I would be someone that you would call an exception because I get to work from home.

01:12:26.040 I get to wake up in the morning. I don't have a boss, right? I don't have to go into the office from nine to

01:12:30.120 five. I get to then therefore spend the entire morning with my children.

01:12:33.960 So you're an exception and the 47% of women that make up our labor force are also an exception?

01:12:39.400 No, the exact opposite. So I'm trying to make it more realistic because I think it's really bad form

01:12:44.600 when people who are able to stay at home, right? And are able to start working at 1 o'clock PM,

01:12:53.240 as I do after being around their children, the children are running around all day,

01:12:56.840 will then preach to you that every woman can have this. That's not the reality. The reality

01:13:01.400 is that the overwhelming majority of people are stuck behind a desk all day.

01:13:05.560 And it is true. I will say YouTube is a great job for like, you do get to work from home. That's

01:13:13.320 very nice. But if she cared about her family, I don't think she would go into politics.

01:13:19.800 I think she would steer clear. You don't you if she cared about her kids, why would you enter like

01:13:28.360 a political arena publicly showing your kids face and touch on topics that people want to assassinate

01:13:35.080 you for? So like having you get you know, you around Candace saw too much of history's mysteries

01:13:41.400 on History Channel and F Gordon Ramsay and the Money Channel. Okay, they're not happy. They're not

01:13:46.680 doing work that gratifies them at all. And at the same time, they're suspending. Well, that's just

01:13:51.960 what career you've chosen. But I think that the issue with your work a nine to five, I think that's

01:13:56.440 okay, yes, but it's the job that is making them unhappy, then maybe they should have chosen a

01:14:00.280 different career path and not the structure of the career itself. But my issue with this, okay,

01:14:04.600 if most kids are in public school, I don't really see why women can't have a nine to five, you get up at,

01:14:10.280 okay, you get up at seven. The kids, I think actually I went to school at 730. So okay, you get up at six.

01:14:21.080 Oatmeal bacon, there's a lot of stuff that's pretty fast, you can just give your kids drive them to school.

01:14:27.320 Um, now, I guess you would have to find them a ride home. But okay, you get a ride home somehow,

01:14:39.160 either you alternate with your like, okay, then five o'clock, you can make dinner when you get home.

01:14:45.800 Six or seven o'clock dinner. But I don't see what I really don't see. So I think women are just kind of

01:14:53.000 lazy, to be honest. I just can't imagine cooking and cleaning takes that much time. I mean, maybe

01:15:00.680 you don't have a spotless house, but or you don't make like gourmet meals. But I mean, did anyone die

01:15:07.720 eating oatmeal? Did anyone die eating eggs and bacon? You know, and I just I come from this perspective,

01:15:16.840 because I do understand when the kids are under like, when before they're in school. But my grandma

01:15:24.440 had 13 children. You know what I mean? My grandma had 13 kids. So like, you know, we're having like,

01:15:35.960 two, maybe three. You know, is that not only is it claiming that women can't both be mothers

01:15:43.000 and have jobs. Sorry, Pearl read my mind about the religion grift and over moralizing. I think

01:15:47.160 it's a public persona, a Candace suit, which we know to be true, because millions of women do that.

01:15:52.920 My mother does that you are actively doing it right now. But it also is qualifying what every single

01:15:59.160 woman in this country wants, without any clear evidence. I mean, there's 169 million women in this

01:16:05.160 country over how can you say that you know, exactly what every woman secretly wants? Are you asking?

01:16:11.000 I didn't. That wasn't my claim that I secretly know what every single woman wants. I'm saying that

01:16:15.320 if you measure up at the end of your life, what brought you more fulfillment your career or a child

01:16:21.000 children raising children in your family, we will discover that and there actually have been studies

01:16:26.040 people had have gone to people on their deathbeds. And the number one regret that people have

01:16:30.040 According to the top five regrets of the dying by brawny where too much work is the number to regret

01:16:35.480 but not living a life true to yourself is the number one I would agree. I don't think women that don't

01:16:40.200 want kids should have them. Because then they torture the children. We don't need that.

01:16:45.880 How was that they gave too much to their careers. And this includes men, by the way.

01:16:48.760 Well, yeah, that's true. I mean, of course, human relation is going to be valued over money and profit.

01:16:52.600 So then at the same time, what is that even my argument, you're agreeing with my argument.

01:16:57.160 Humans prefer humans over a job. But that's not just similar to women. That's everyone.

01:17:02.920 And my question is, what does that even have to like, what is the goal of that? Should every woman quit

01:17:06.680 working and just have a child? Well, I'm just trying to warn you that if you decide to suspend

01:17:12.760 that pursuit of family because you think that you have to first climb the ladder,

01:17:17.080 a lot of women make that mistake and they don't end up finding a partner.

01:17:20.200 But that's their right. It's free will. We live in a free country.

01:17:22.360 You would definitely have a right to make it. I agree. People have the right to live in hell.

01:17:27.320 People do. You get to say what people should and shouldn't do.

01:17:30.120 I didn't come. I don't think my claim is this is what people should or should not do. I'm just simply

01:17:34.600 stating that my claim is that you will be more fulfilled if you focus on trying to decide what

01:17:39.800 other people are fulfilled by. Okay. I am making my claim here that you will,

01:17:44.200 women are infinitely more fulfilled in the household and raising children than they are

01:17:48.760 taking that nine to five job. But you have no evidence of that. In fact,

01:17:51.960 you are evidence against your own claim. I'm not evidence against my own claim.

01:17:55.320 You are saying that you're at work right now. I'm literally, I've literally said,

01:17:59.400 I am telling you women cannot have it all. That is an illusion. And that is an illusion that is

01:18:03.320 stressing women out. And I think it is the reason. Yes, they can. By having a nanny do it for them.

01:18:09.720 That's how you can have it all by outsourcing motherhood. Why, why be a parent when some 510

01:18:16.680 Latina can do it for you? Why? That's how, that's how they do it all. Any woman that says you can do it all

01:18:26.920 is paying someone to do it for them. Reason why so many women are turning to popping pills,

01:18:32.520 why there's been such a significant, more than a thousand percent increase since 1999.

01:18:36.200 Men can have it all. Men can be fathers and have a job, but women can't do that.

01:18:39.560 I don't think you can have it all. It sounds like you're devaluing women. I think that women can do

01:18:43.640 everything that a man can do. And men have done this historically throughout time and memoriam.

01:18:47.720 I think women is our topic, debate topic today. So we're not.

01:18:50.920 I mean, women exist in a society with men. We are comparing.

01:18:53.720 Women are trying to be both women and men. And that is why women are unhappy today is because

01:18:58.840 actually what's quite ironic about the feminist movement is that women are just trying to be

01:19:02.520 people. I think women have been taught that being a woman is not enough and that you have

01:19:06.600 to also aspire to be a man. And that's the irony. It's like a psychological conditioning.

01:19:10.280 What feminists went out and did and said is that in order for women to have value,

01:19:13.560 women need to be like men. And I'm saying that actually women-

01:19:16.840 Nope. Feminism, women are jealous of men. And so they chose to go be like men. Nobody brainwashed.

01:19:22.280 Nobody told them. They did it. And men are biologically different. There are differences

01:19:27.960 in our behavior. There are differences in our desires. And I think evidence of the feminist

01:19:32.440 movement, by the way, shows us that because even when women enter into the college education space,

01:19:39.560 the pathways of career that we choose are different from men because we're biologically different.

01:19:43.960 Okay. So let's say that this is true, that women truly are more fulfilled at home.

01:19:47.640 Now, the average cost of raising a child a year is around $21,000 or more. So my issue is,

01:19:54.280 are you saying that women should just suddenly stop working and now the onus is entirely on men?

01:20:00.280 Like the society that you're pitching is not sustainable economically.

01:20:06.680 It was sustained economically. But it's not right now.

01:20:09.960 Are I paused? Naima, you've been voted out by the majority.

01:20:12.520 Yeah, that's true because we're taking men's money and giving it to women for doing nothing.

01:20:17.320 I think more women should work. I'd love to see more house husbands in my lifetime,

01:20:21.960 but not house beta husbands. I'd love to see more house alpha husbands, like women that marry

01:20:28.200 like personal trainers, for example, and just pay for their life.

01:20:34.360 You might, women aren't bringing anything else to the table. They might as well bring money from

01:20:38.200 all these easy jobs. I'm like, I think the ultimate alpha is a guy that can get women to pay his rent.

01:20:46.760 Because you're like, have you seen those guys? Those guys are the best with women.

01:20:52.840 Like, not in a simpy way, but in a like, do you know those chads that just get women to do whatever?

01:21:00.040 They're like paying his rent and he's still cheating.

01:21:05.640 Yeah, marry some rich broad and divorce her and take her stuff. Hilarious.

01:21:09.480 Please return to your seat.

01:21:10.760 Hi. Hi. Nice to meet you.

01:21:17.800 Nice to meet you.

01:21:19.320 So your claims that women will be happier at home. I think you're conflating though,

01:21:23.400 happiness with importance. Because I get what you're saying where a woman can write a book

01:21:26.440 and have kids, but the kids are always going to make her happier. But I think it just means that

01:21:30.520 kids are always going to be more important, not necessarily make you happier. But also,

01:21:34.680 piggy packing on Naima, we don't live in an economy where people typically can have a one-income

01:21:40.760 household. Right.

01:21:41.720 Whether it be the mom or dad that stays home. And so I think, and you keep bringing up the 1950s,

01:21:47.880 which, because it was right before the fact. I just don't know if that's the period of time

01:21:51.160 that you want to go back to. I'm just going back to the first wave of feminism.

01:21:54.840 You want to undo progress that's been done. So I'm curious as to what decade

01:21:59.720 you'd be comfortable living in, especially as a black woman.

01:22:03.640 Okay. So we're going to park aside the race politics because I want to focus on...

01:22:08.920 Okay. Then as a woman, what period of time do you want to go back to?

01:22:12.120 Just as a woman, I think that it was probably a better environment for women when we understood

01:22:19.640 that raising our children was...

01:22:21.480 I heard the sixties were fun and the seventies. I heard life was great in the seventies. I think

01:22:28.280 that's what I would pick because actually I like today, but I've heard the... I would have loved

01:22:34.360 to have been around before social media and just see what life was like back then.

01:22:40.200 Fulfilling.

01:22:40.680 But some women still do.

01:22:41.720 But I want air conditioning. So, you know what I mean?

01:22:44.520 You understand that.

01:22:45.640 Right.

01:22:45.960 A lot of women still understand that.

01:22:46.920 And I'm one of them.

01:22:47.640 And I'm here advocating for you to be able to live the life that you want

01:22:52.360 and for other women to be able to live the lives they want.

01:22:54.440 Do you have children?

01:22:55.240 No.

01:22:55.640 Okay. You have a career, I presume?

01:22:57.000 Yeah.

01:22:57.320 Okay. What field do you work in?

01:22:59.400 I do hair.

01:23:00.200 Okay.

01:23:00.520 Wonderful.

01:23:01.080 So I have both children and a career as somebody pointed out. And so the fact that I'm saying that

01:23:08.200 you will be infinitely more fulfilled at the end of the day by raising your children

01:23:13.320 than you will be if you come home and you say, wow, I really crushed it dying.

01:23:16.680 Right. But we like, it's like, I can watch what you say or watch what you do. I did an event with Candace.

01:23:25.080 I was kind of starstruck. It was kind of, it's kind of weird sometimes when you see people

01:23:28.760 like you've seen on screen. I did an event with her and it was like a month after she had her kid.

01:23:34.120 Like, what are you doing? Flying to Amsterdam?

01:23:36.600 Somebody's hair today. What is it exactly that makes you angry about hearing that?

01:23:42.760 Like that's what I'm actually trying to get, I'm trying to get to the implicit revolution.

01:23:47.800 But that's the thing is that no one is angry.

01:23:49.000 When someone mentions children.

01:23:50.280 No, see, no one's angry when you mention children. I get angry, I guess, when you mention that someone

01:23:55.720 should have children or you're trying to impose a lifestyle.

01:23:58.360 What is she arguing? She's saying, I don't want to have kids with a beta.

01:24:02.600 All my ex-boyfriends are beta. I don't want to do it. I don't,

01:24:06.120 I don't, I don't, I don't. And Candace, because the older women will tell you this,

01:24:09.720 have kids with a beta. Have kids with a beta. No, I don't want to have kids with that.

01:24:14.920 That's the argument going, they don't realize it, but that's the argument.

01:24:18.440 Dial onto people that you want to live, which I think is kind of funny because as someone who's

01:24:22.520 anti-feminism, you practice it more than most women do. I mean, every time you get on your podcast.

01:24:27.640 Pearl, would you say no fault divorce was a symptom of a deeper cultural shift that had already

01:24:32.280 started undermining men's roles, family and society, or was it the real turning point? So I had a child

01:24:38.440 support officer on the show, or I don't know his official job title. Thank you for the super chat,

01:24:43.720 by the way. You guys are being super generous today. My understanding is that there was a lot of requests

01:24:51.640 for no fault divorce already and that there was a lot of people separated and not divorced. So it

01:24:57.800 was just kind of like a formality and that matches up with what I know about like my family, like the

01:25:04.520 grandparents and great grandparents. A lot of people didn't like, they were just separated.

01:25:12.040 And I really think all of this is just nature correcting itself because most men didn't get to

01:25:16.680 produce historically. So now women, and then they enforced monogamy because it gets too violent. If

01:25:24.280 like the, like the bottom third of men are sexless. So then it gets violent. So the, you know, the people

01:25:30.120 in charge were like, okay, we need monogamy. And the women were like, no,

01:25:36.440 the women are like, we won't be straddled down with betas. And this is what we got.

01:25:42.280 Every time you collect a check, you're practicing feminism. Okay. That's what you think. No,

01:25:47.240 that's what it is actually without feminism. You wouldn't be able to exist. People keep saying,

01:25:51.000 I hate when people say that, but it just shows that you, you haven't done the research to even

01:25:54.920 understand where the, or you don't know history, which was discoverable. That's what I'm saying

01:25:58.520 about you because it means there was always female anti-feminist writers though. Always.

01:26:02.200 Is that you don't understand that a bunch of government officials in the CIA funded the feminist

01:26:07.160 movement. So for all of your hatred for the patriarchy and speaking about men.

01:26:10.280 So my question is, is it bad that they funded it or bad that it just happened?

01:26:14.360 Men wanted women to go into the workforce, the government, which had a lot of men,

01:26:19.000 it was being, are you talking about because world war two occurred and we had to go to

01:26:22.680 factories. And then when we left the factories, they forced us back into the homes.

01:26:25.880 That's not what I'm saying at all. So let me tell you what I'm saying,

01:26:28.600 and then you can respond to it. Gloria Steinem is considered to be a feminist icon, right?

01:26:34.120 Because she led these protests. She also had a bunch of music festivals. She got students involved.

01:26:41.960 It is just a fact that Gloria Steinem was funded by the CIA. Okay. The CIA being the male dominated CIA

01:26:50.920 of the fifties and the sixties funded those movements. So what, what, what do you think was

01:26:56.120 the explicit aim? Do you think it was because the government really wanted you to be more free

01:27:01.160 that they wanted to encourage women to enter the workforce? Well, I have to be honest with you,

01:27:03.800 I couldn't speak on behalf of the government. Okay. You know, the women nagged them into it

01:27:07.720 in their lives. Guarantee it. Some guys, women just nagged. I mean, and what their intention,

01:27:13.720 I think it's important because you just said that I don't know history. And I think it's pretty

01:27:16.600 important if you're going to sit across from me and say, I don't know history, that you learn a

01:27:19.160 piece of history and then question as you keep bringing up men. And I think it's funny because we should

01:27:23.720 talk about men more. Like you brought up suicide. They're four times more likely to kill themselves,

01:27:27.720 which is why. And while women were twice as more often on

01:27:30.680 antidepressants, but that's because we go out and do what we need to do to keep coping.

01:27:33.800 Because we're not happy. And we need to focus on men and the patriarchy,

01:27:36.840 because it's actually oppressed them just as much as women now emotionally, right? Because when we're

01:27:41.400 kids, we are, our parents teach us how to cross street, look both ways so you can get the other

01:27:45.640 side unharmed. When a boy comes across a feeling, and I'm using men and boys here because they're the

01:27:50.120 ones suffering, women are too, but emotionally, when they come across a feeling they haven't felt before,

01:27:57.000 we have to teach them how to get to the other side and cope with it. Otherwise they stay where

01:28:00.520 they are. That anger and resentment builds. That's the feeling they become most comfortable with.

01:28:05.480 That's the feeling they go to first in most situations. So we need to stop telling our boys

01:28:09.640 that they don't cry because they do. They just do it alone. And then they become even more alone.

01:28:14.200 You're fat.

01:28:25.160 All right. Jasmine, nice to meet you.

01:28:28.200 Okay. So you say that women are more fulfilled at home with kids than going out into the workforce

01:28:33.240 or getting educated, but that just really doesn't bear out when you look at the stats. When you look

01:28:37.160 at how working mothers are way less likely to be in poverty. Maternal education is the number one

01:28:41.960 predictor of childhood outcomes, better scores, getting higher incomes in the future, fewer

01:28:47.080 behavioral problems, better mental health. So it's weird to me with, and college educated women are

01:28:52.360 least likely to get divorced. And they're the only women, the top 10% of women are the only women whose

01:28:57.160 marriage rates are going up. So they're getting married, they're staying married and their kids

01:29:00.840 are doing better. When you look at stay at home mothers, you see that they're more likely to report

01:29:04.440 being depressed. They're more likely to report having anxiety and anger and all these types of things.

01:29:10.040 So how can you say that she won't be the speak for the government, but she will, but she will speak

01:29:15.160 for men. SMH seems like a woman, if you want to get married and have kids, you should go to college

01:29:20.440 and have a career. So I, it sounds to me like we are looking at totally different statistics because

01:29:24.360 everything that you said, I've, I've actually read the exact opposite. I'm glad. Let's not talk about

01:29:29.320 like, I do studies because I have to, like, it's part of my job. I can't just not use studies. But

01:29:39.480 let's talk about what we see in real life. What do you see? Are women unhappy? I don't see young

01:29:45.000 women being unhappy. I see old women unhappy when they can't get the attention from alphas anymore.

01:29:52.920 That's who I see. That's when women crash out. On a fact check show with you. Right. Exactly.

01:29:57.000 Oh, it's so exciting. That's going to be amazing. Okay. Because I know, like I said, I think what

01:30:01.880 we're talking about is that there was this widespread report on. How did this girl get fat? My God.

01:30:07.720 Female happiness. And I know that it was, it was formally debunked and it was. That's not what I'm

01:30:11.560 talking about. Pew Research, University of California. In fact, working mothers today spend more time with

01:30:16.040 their children than women did in the 1960s that were at home. Okay. Well, women that I can tell you,

01:30:20.920 women that are at home are obviously spending more time with their children than the people

01:30:24.040 who are at work. And their children are not faring off any better. And they're faring off worse.

01:30:27.640 How are you measuring their children faring off worse? How likely they are to higher incomes,

01:30:32.920 better scores, fewer health problems, fewer behavioral issues, and better mental.

01:30:36.760 So the, the, just to get back to the claim that I'm making here is that it is obvious that women who

01:30:42.200 have children are going to be more fulfilled. How is it obvious? Because you said that?

01:30:46.440 No, it's not obvious because I said so. It's because when you look. Candace is getting kind

01:30:52.920 of tripped up. They're kind of, I mean, it's tough. I, it's a tough environment having like 20 people

01:30:59.160 yell at you and just take shots. I would, the way I would have handled that is just say, look,

01:31:05.320 for the purpose of this debate, I am awful. I am a bad person. Can we move on to the topics and the

01:31:12.920 studies? Like that's, that is how I would handle it. I would say, look, I understand. I am a hypocrite.

01:31:19.400 I am a bad person. I get it. You guys don't like me. What, like, can we move on? That's what I would say.

01:31:26.840 That's how I would do it. Look at all the statistics in terms of women who are choosing

01:31:30.200 not to have families. They are, as the person who just sat here before you mentioned, they are suffering

01:31:35.800 from more depression. They're suffering from more anxiety. And I, and that's not true. Okay. It is true.

01:31:40.760 It is actually true that women who are choosing their careers over starting families are finding

01:31:45.480 themselves leaning more onto, onto medicines like Xanax, anxiety inducing medicines and depression,

01:31:51.720 because they suspended that timeframe where women really should be looking to find a partner and to

01:31:55.960 start a family because they were instead pursuing their careers. There has been a, there, it has been,

01:32:01.320 it is a dishonest. Women don't like men that much. Men drive us crazy. They annoy us. It's because we

01:32:08.200 hate things that we can't control. We can control children. We can control the narrative. We can

01:32:13.160 control the media. We can control the workforce. We can control our income to some extent.

01:32:18.440 But we can't control men. Men are uncontrollable. And that's why it drives women crazy.

01:32:23.640 It's totally a dishonest narrative that men and women want the same things out of life. We don't,

01:32:28.040 we absolutely do not want the same things out of life. In fact, we don't even measure,

01:32:30.920 we don't even measure success the same. Men and women don't even measure success the same.

01:32:35.000 So, but tell me how the women who are working and getting educated, why are they faring off better

01:32:40.840 in all of these? I am telling you that I do not believe they are faring off better in all of these

01:32:45.080 measures. And you're doing that because of what? I am telling you that we are looking at totally

01:32:49.880 opposite statistics. Like, so you're sitting here telling me that the statistics show that women

01:32:53.560 who are working are producing better children. But I am saying that women that grow up in a two-family

01:32:58.600 home where the mother stays at home are faring off better than the children who are being raised in an

01:33:02.920 environment where the women are working, where both of the parents are working away from the home.

01:33:07.320 I do get to work from home. No, no, no. I mean, I've watched your show. You talk about all the

01:33:11.240 nannies you hire and it's so hard to find. I've heard from people in the industry. She has a lot of

01:33:17.640 nannies. I don't know if that's true, but that's what I've heard. I never talked about all of the

01:33:22.600 nannies I hire. Yeah, you have. I spoke about how difficult it was to find a babysitter who knew how to

01:33:27.000 cook a meat. But so now Candace is entering into her frame. Candace should have dismissed it.

01:33:38.280 What would I have said? I would have said, you talk about all the nannies you hire.

01:33:47.480 Yeah, a million nannies, thousand, hundred thousand, or you just dismiss, you move on. Like she's

01:33:52.760 defending herself. Why do you? And this is something I had to like internally look at.

01:33:59.320 Why do you feel the need to defend yourself? Like to an only fans model, your butt is on the internet.

01:34:06.440 I don't know if that's maybe what, what would you put in the chat? What would you tell Candace to

01:34:12.200 overcome this objection? I would either agree and amplify. So, you know, you just say, yep,

01:34:18.040 you know, I'm the worst mother ever. I'm a terrible person. So can we just move on?

01:34:34.120 Or I would go a different route and say, let me listen to the rest meal. And that's because you

01:34:40.440 don't need a babysitter. You're already you could retire right now let people respond to you when

01:34:44.520 they're, when they're speaking. You don't want to. To respond to you. No, you don't want to. You

01:34:49.160 want to be working, which is great. You're telling me what I want now. That's true. I mean,

01:34:53.160 her husband's worth 180 million. She doesn't need to be doing this, but she's like choosing to put

01:35:00.200 herself in politics, which will affect her career with her kids. Yeah, which is fine. I'm not saying

01:35:07.080 she shouldn't. I'm saying it's not what she's selling. And then accusing me of telling you. Wait,

01:35:12.360 are you, you don't want to work and you just let me finish because you've said so many words that

01:35:15.960 you just, what you're trying to do here, like your argument style is I'm going to say so much,

01:35:19.640 not let her get awarded and then walk away and feel like I've won. We're not having a conversation

01:35:23.320 because you've not letting me respond to one of your points. Okay. What I am saying to you for first

01:35:27.880 to answer what you just said, which was a lie. What I spoke to about on the weekends is that it's been

01:35:32.520 increasingly difficult to find a 25 year old to even knows how to make box macaroni and cheese.

01:35:38.760 Right. And that's crazy. That's, and that is in large part due to feminism. Women don't even

01:35:43.000 focus. Women don't even focus. Like there's this, there's this, there's this idea.

01:35:46.200 It's not really feminism. It's Uber eats.

01:35:51.240 That's really it. Yeah. That women shouldn't be cooking. Like there's something fundamentally

01:35:55.160 wrong with women even learning how to cook. You know what I mean?

01:35:57.240 As much time with your children as you possibly can, because that's the way to get the most

01:36:00.520 fulfillment. No. And that's what I'm trying to say. I am speaking to you.

01:36:03.640 And stop. Okay. Could you please let somebody get in? I did. You're not. You actually have not

01:36:10.040 let anybody finish. Like I said, it's, it's no one benefits when you're just speaking over me and not

01:36:15.800 allowing me to respond. All you're proving is that you have an attitude and you. So

01:36:21.800 again, I would have dismissed it. Let's get back to the topic. And now like, you can't by saying, oh,

01:36:28.200 now, like now she, that's why I think Jasmine actually won this because Candace keeps entering

01:36:33.640 into her frame. Can you address the point now? But you're not, you see, you're, that's what I'm

01:36:38.120 saying. You just have an attitude and it's not, it's not trying to, it's performative. I'm actually.

01:36:42.280 I'd love if you address my point. I will be quiet if you address my point. Does anybody actually feel

01:36:45.720 here that I am being allowed to address any of her points when she just keeps running over me?

01:36:50.280 Like you, I'm literally trying to answer your first point of you saying that I don't stay at home.

01:36:55.800 Yeah. Fair point. Fair point. Obviously I get that you're all anti-Candace and pro-feminist,

01:37:03.000 but also it's not productive. Oh, that's a great response. Candace should pay us for this. Thank

01:37:09.560 you. $5 super chat. What she is doing for her culture war shtick is for her kids. So they won't

01:37:16.280 date gynocentric nut jobs. We all know it's not, but that's a great response. Do you know what I mean?

01:37:24.680 You're not actually. Okay. Address the point. You spend more time saying that I'm not addressing,

01:37:28.440 that you, you don't have a chance to talk. I mean, you, the whole time you could have

01:37:31.320 addressed the point and you could have talked, but go for it. I just want you to know that you're not

01:37:34.600 coming across as somebody who wants to actually have a conversation. So to get back to the claim,

01:37:38.680 because I don't even know where you're at. You're now talking, you're saying that I said stuff in my

01:37:41.240 podcast. I'll go wherever you want to go. I'll go wherever you want to go. Do you want to start with

01:37:44.440 me working at home? Cause I work at home. You just said something about me working at home. You travel all around the world.

01:37:48.680 Okay. I, you, you, you do, you do speeches and I love that. I love how ambitious you are. That's

01:37:53.560 a really great trait. And if you were truly said that you would be more fulfilled. Now,

01:37:57.000 one thing you do find is women, they don't want to stay at home when you pull them. They just want

01:38:00.520 flexible working hours and flexible working conditions like you have. And I think we should

01:38:04.600 all advocate for that. It's not one or the other, but when you sit here and you go, you'll be more

01:38:08.280 fulfilled doing this and spend all your time doing that. We would love for you to leave the public eye and

01:38:11.960 go focus on what makes you fulfilled. Okay. She cooked. It's pretty embarrassing.

01:38:25.480 That was a great response. If you had anything else that she should have added, it's tough. It's a

01:38:29.320 personal attack, but that's what happens when you use your kids to build your brand.

01:38:35.960 I had a public relationship once and I regret it with everything in me making it public. You know what I

01:38:41.400 mean? It's just, uh, yeah, you don't want to do that. That's why I'm kind of iffy when I talk about

01:38:47.080 like my personal life, because people just use it to weaponize, like weaponize it against you.

01:38:53.000 And you, you learn this when you get into media, but yeah, if you cosplay trad and you're like putting

01:38:59.720 on your Instagram stories, you cooking for your husband and stuff. Yeah. That's what you get.

01:39:06.920 Hey, before we go any further, we want to take a moment to say,

01:39:09.880 thanks so much to straight air news for powering the fact we live under a mate.

01:39:14.120 Uh, all right. So we got half of it. Hmm. Okay. Well, cause let's see. We're about an hour into this

01:39:21.000 video. I want to do this tomorrow too. I'm just debating how I want to cut it. We'll do a little

01:39:26.120 bit. We live under a matriarchy, not a patriarchy, patriarchy, not a patriarchy.

01:39:30.440 Hey, hello. Nice to meet you. It's a pleasure to meet you. I'm Princella, the queen maker. I love that.

01:39:40.760 So you say we live in a matriarchy, right? Can you give me the definition of patriarchy? Yes. Well,

01:39:47.080 the patriarchy is the idea that the, the, the system, our system in America is being run by men and that

01:39:52.760 women are having to exist under a system that. You know what I would say if I was Candace,

01:39:57.800 the good response. I do work. I have to bring home the bacon for my husband.

01:40:05.960 I got to give him King treatment. I got to treat him like a King, you know,

01:40:10.760 is Jasmine Jafar five. Um, I would put her as more attractive than Candace. Unfortunately,

01:40:16.600 um, I'd put her at like a 6.5 cause she's younger, a little prettier, I'd say, even though she has work.

01:40:23.800 Immediately disadvantages them because men are behind it. And I disagree with that pointedly. I

01:40:28.360 think actually we're living in a society where people are being very much influenced socially and

01:40:34.120 politically by women. Okay. So the denotative definition of patriarchy is father rule and where

01:40:42.440 positions of government are held majority majority majorly by men, where women are largely, largely

01:40:49.320 excluded. So 125 house of representatives are female. And that's only about 25%. Right. And

01:40:58.200 only about 28. Right. But they have to cater to women because women are the biggest swing voting block.

01:41:03.320 80% make up Senate and 3.3% of Congress up until this date have ever been women.

01:41:09.160 So by denotative definition, we literally live in a patriarchy. Yes. So I disagree with that.

01:41:14.120 So I think what this gets to, which is actually an important part of the conversation is that

01:41:17.880 people always think that where there is disparity, there's somehow inequality. And I actually reject

01:41:22.120 that entirely. I think it's just a difference in what we're interested in. I think we're biologically

01:41:26.680 wired or interested in different careers. And just because we looked, if we looked in the fashion

01:41:31.320 industry and said, Oh, well, it's being dominated by women. It wouldn't mean that, okay, well that means

01:41:36.040 that the fashion industry is a matriarchy and men have no sense. It just means have no ability to

01:41:41.320 communicate how they feel in the fashion industry. I literally think that those numbers show that

01:41:45.000 we're just biologically different. So I actually think politically women have shown that they have

01:41:52.120 a lot more power than men have. And I'm talking about just in terms of political movements,

01:41:56.520 the most recent I can think of is the Me Too movement, right? If a bunch of women get together and

01:42:01.320 complain about a man and refer to the patriarchy and scream, generally speaking, let me know if you

01:42:06.600 agree, the media will celebrate that. If a bunch of men got together and were shrieking and speaking

01:42:13.080 about women, generally speaking, the media would call them all white supremacists and say that we had

01:42:18.920 a misogyny problem and that things were really wrong in society. Women are allowed to be more vocal

01:42:23.160 in general about problems than men are. Well, let me speak to that. When we're talking about government

01:42:28.600 and media, these are two different things. So under the denotative definition of a patriarchy by the

01:42:35.480 percentages that are occupied in the government, which is majority male, defines us as a patriarchy.

01:42:43.400 Now, what it comes to for capitalism, for marketing purposes and control for capital and revenue, that

01:42:50.920 is a totally different conversation. But who's making the laws? I don't think that women are the ones voting

01:42:57.320 to have their reproductive rights taken away, where you have rape, incest, and all of these things

01:43:04.040 excluded to force women to be able to... I don't think women in government would largely vote against

01:43:10.200 their own interests because it's majority male patriarchy. Yeah, but you have to cater to the voting

01:43:15.960 block. That should have been her answer. I think, love that point. Are women allowed to vote?

01:43:21.640 Oh, of course they are. Who's voting that patriarchy and then out of curiosity? No, I totally agree.

01:43:27.080 And you want to know why? Because there are so many women who think like you. You submit to the idea

01:43:33.560 of men ruling everything and your ideology is spread across. I think what I would say in these debates

01:43:40.840 would get me kicked off of YouTube. Yeah, because they're better at everything.

01:43:48.760 And you guys are nuts. I don't want a woman in charge. Not all women, not all women. Oh, I can't.

01:43:56.680 Is that hard for you guys as men just thinking these things and not being able to say it? Government

01:44:01.240 and media are not separate things. Operation Mockingbird is alive and well. Thank you.

01:44:05.640 A lot of women who also falsely believe to vote against their own interests just to complain about

01:44:12.520 it in the end. You know, earlier you said that, you know, women would be much more happier working

01:44:19.560 at home. But don't you agree that it's human nature to want things that you don't have?

01:44:27.640 So during the 1950s, which is something that you constantly bring up, you know, it wasn't until 1994

01:44:33.960 that it was legally illegal to beat your wife. And so what we're dealing with is people wanting

01:44:41.400 something and then when they get it, they're not happy with it. And then they have to...

01:44:45.480 But women are never happy. So like the first mistake was ever trying to appease women because

01:44:50.680 you could give them the world and they still won't be happy.

01:44:52.600 Revoke that idea for something else. And so what you're saying is that women vote for these things

01:44:59.320 because they have the same mentality as you. Okay. So you're acknowledging that women have

01:45:03.960 the freedom to vote. Yes.

01:45:05.240 And you're saying that women are still existing mentally, even with the freedom to vote.

01:45:09.960 Correct.

01:45:10.280 They are voting men in because we are still victims of...

01:45:14.120 No, I don't believe in victimhood. I believe in lack of education, a lack of knowledge,

01:45:17.960 because one of the things that you also say...

01:45:19.880 Do you think that it could just be that more men are running for positions of office?

01:45:23.000 No, not necessarily. Because remember the United States, the average reading comprehension of

01:45:28.280 people... I think it's because men are better at everything, but not all, not all, not all.

01:45:36.840 In the United States is sixth grade. So we're not dealing with educated people.

01:45:41.000 Lack of education is the cause for what we see in the world. And if we educate the women

01:45:47.640 better because a nation can rise no higher than its woman. And if she reading and comprehending

01:45:52.120 at a sixth grade level and popping out a lot of kids, you know, because the brokest people in the

01:45:56.520 world pop out the most kids. So if we have those people voting, of course, they're going to vote

01:46:01.560 against their interests because they voting for some utopian society that will never exist.

01:46:06.680 Okay. So that's, that's why you think Kamala lost.

01:46:09.480 This ain't even about Kamala.

01:46:10.680 You're talking about women.

01:46:12.600 But we had an opportunity.

01:46:13.640 Yeah, go ahead.

01:46:14.200 We had a male running and we had a...

01:46:16.040 Yeah, go ahead. And so they're like, Pearl, just say it.

01:46:18.920 Yeah, you, I was unemployed for a year and a half.

01:46:22.440 That was not a fun year and a half.

01:46:24.520 I thank you guys every day for the super chat, but that was a tough...

01:46:27.800 Do you know what it's like? I did this show basically throughout the whole time

01:46:32.120 and you guys saw me, my mood was terrible because I was working for free.

01:46:36.760 Yeah. So, yeah, female running and we actually showed that Trump increased the amount of women

01:46:46.760 who voted for him, right? So I'm...

01:46:48.840 Because Trump's an alpha.

01:46:51.480 That's why women love alpha men.

01:46:54.200 I'm asking you, do you believe that the reason that happened was because women became less educated

01:47:00.680 during that time?

01:47:01.640 They've always been less educated. Did you know that UNESCO says that the,

01:47:06.680 that two thirds of the 7.7 million illiterate adults is women?

01:47:17.240 We always can't even read. Oh, that's hilarious.

01:47:20.600 I feel like I can't read sometimes. You know, I'm actually, do you know what's funny about that?

01:47:27.160 Oh my God. I'm going to cook. They're going to cook me. They're going to cook me.

01:47:32.040 Sometimes I'll read like words. I, you guys notice it. Like, I just can't pronounce them.

01:47:37.320 I don't know how I've, I've literally thought about taking a reading class, but that is hilarious.

01:47:41.880 We want, we want us to have an equal say when two thirds of adults who can't read are women.

01:47:46.840 Illiterate. And we have sixth grade educated people voting and guess who?

01:47:54.920 God help us.

01:47:56.680 That gets the dominant population is white women. And so guess what now?

01:48:01.080 Hey, us too.

01:48:03.160 You have to add a race element into that, which you already know exists because we, as black folks,

01:48:08.520 we ain't the dominant people voting people in. Okay. So now when we have to go into white supremacy

01:48:15.560 and feminism, now you have to look at the mind of the people who actually have economic success

01:48:23.320 and what they're voting for, because classism actually matters as well. So I'm sorry, but a lot

01:48:29.160 of people vote based on their feelings and not based on policy. Pause guys. Yes. Sorry,

01:48:33.640 you've been voted out by them. She's almost more feminine than Candace in a weird way,

01:48:37.400 even though she's doing the dyke thing. So she's like talking slowly, calm, cool, collected.

01:48:42.440 Majority. Although to be fair, it's tough to be calm when you have like 10 people coming for you

01:48:48.440 at once. I've been there. It's tough. Thank you for the rest of the conversation.

01:48:59.800 Hi. Hi. How are you?

01:49:01.560 Good to meet you. Oh, this dude.

01:49:02.920 It's you. I'm doing well. Very nice to meet you.

01:49:04.360 So I view this argument as a matter of fact, right? This is a descriptive claim about the

01:49:10.360 culture reality we live in and patriarchy being a system in which men hold the predominance of power

01:49:17.400 in both political, economic, and social methods of organization. So S&P 500 companies, 90% of CEOs

01:49:24.840 are men. Board members, 70% of CEOs are men. 70%. Because we can't do it.

01:49:29.800 If we could, we would, or if we wanted to, we would. 50% of congressional members are men.

01:49:35.400 Now you may- We could start our own company and just go, but yeah.

01:49:39.640 Provide some sort of naturalistic argument to why that is. But what you're essentially arguing then

01:49:44.200 is that there's a natural patriarchy, which I think feminists would all disagree with. We think that

01:49:49.720 there's a clear social pressure as to why this is. And part of the evidence for that is since

01:49:57.160 feminisms arise within our public culture, we've now seen an explosion of women entering these fields,

01:50:03.640 but we have a long way to go. But fundamentally, the claim regarding patriarchy or matriarchy,

01:50:09.160 we are so much closer to where we were just a few decades ago or several, a couple generations ago,

01:50:15.320 where women couldn't hold a credit card than a system where men can't hold a credit card. We're still

01:50:19.480 much closer to that form of society. Why would you say that we're closer to that?

01:50:23.560 What do you mean by that? Did you just qualify that? Because in terms of economic power,

01:50:27.720 so for example, household wealth, women own 55 cents to every dollar a man owns.

01:50:33.960 Who controls household spending though? You talk about how the money's made in America.

01:50:38.440 How is it being spent? Who spends it? So it's primarily spent by women as you've noted,

01:50:43.080 but then the money where the profit's being generated, it's being generated by men.

01:50:46.360 Would you rather be the people that are spending and deciding on what the money's being spent on?

01:50:49.320 Would you rather be the person that's just working to earn that?

01:50:52.840 Well, CEOs and board members aren't working. They own the shares. They're making the profit.

01:50:57.720 Well, when you own it, profit. Profit is making.

01:51:00.920 Yeah. You would much in a capitalist system, by definition, you would much rather be making

01:51:05.800 the profit than spending. I would much rather be spending your money

01:51:09.400 than having to work for your money. Just so we are so totally clear here, I would much rather spend

01:51:13.720 your money and have to go out and earn your money. Well, you're talking about wage laborers in terms

01:51:18.120 of working, but in terms of who actually owns the wealth. No, I'm talking about spending power.

01:51:20.600 Right. Yeah. Well, sure. But that matters. If 85 cents of every dollar,

01:51:26.200 how that's being spent is being determined by women, that's power. We can't say spending power

01:51:31.240 is not power. But why do you think that is the case? It's because women are often relegated to the

01:51:35.960 role of doing grocery shopping, et cetera, because for millennia now... I mean, you can even Uber

01:51:41.480 eats groceries now. What more do we want? From millennia up until now, women were unable to enter

01:51:49.480 the workforce and have economic and political freedom. Okay. So let's get into the reasons,

01:51:53.880 because you brought up something, that men are the people that are at the top of these companies,

01:51:57.640 these Fortune 500 companies. And political power. You're absolutely right. Pearl

01:52:01.240 Reed, you are so dead on. As long as they think they're getting their cake and eating it too,

01:52:04.520 they think they're happy when they're still too young to reap the results. Yeah.

01:52:12.280 Let me see what else we got.

01:52:16.360 Pearl, what is the one thing that a guy gets from a woman that is specifically unique to women,

01:52:20.200 sex and feminine appearance? Everything else can come from alternative sources. Yeah.

01:52:27.240 I want to see if there's any more. By the way, we get unlimited super chats on the website.

01:52:33.400 So it's 10 bucks a month. We're about to move the school into the app. So everything's going to be

01:52:39.320 on the app. I think I fixed the app. So if you guys could confirm that I did, if you can see it in

01:52:44.360 Google play in the app store, it's the audacity network, you know, help a girl out. I see it on my

01:52:51.640 phone, but I just want to make sure you guys are. We're going to spend some time on the website. So if you

01:52:58.200 guys have any comments, questions, complaints, concerns, feel free to tell Doug MPA in the

01:53:04.680 community section of the website. And then we will, we're actually, we have time to get to it again.

01:53:10.440 We're a little short staffed because of the year and a half, but now we're, we're moving mountains.

01:53:16.120 He's just got to give us a little time. Why is that?

01:53:18.440 It's, it's, it's primarily because we, the women haven't broken the ceiling quite yet in terms of

01:53:23.640 meeting men. Oh, one more. This guy has a nightstand full of dildos.

01:53:29.000 Yeah. In terms of parity with, with these sort of power. But what we've seen with the explosion of

01:53:33.800 feminism is that women have actually begun to enter these companies have, you know, risen into

01:53:40.920 both political and economic positions of power, but that continues to grow year by year, which shows

01:53:46.200 that these social pressures are actually breaking apart as soon as feminism comes into play.

01:53:51.080 What I would say is what that shows you is that, that women and men have different interests.

01:53:55.240 And I think this gets into what I was saying that just because you see a dis...

01:53:58.280 Men like making money. Women like being lazy. That's the different interests.

01:54:03.640 Verity does not mean that it's not just a disparity in what our interests are. That's what's being

01:54:07.080 represented. I don't know why there has been this idea that women should want to aspire to work 80

01:54:13.400 hours a week in order to be on par with men. Women don't want to do that. They don't.

01:54:19.640 Do you think that interests are innate or do you think that social...

01:54:22.120 I think the interests are innate.

01:54:23.240 So why is it then that, for example, in the 1980s, only a quarter of college graduates were

01:54:28.200 women, where now majority of college graduates are women. That shows that because of the way that

01:54:32.520 social pressures have actually changed, women's interests are actually now changing too. A majority,

01:54:36.840 I think, or at least half of law school graduates are now women. It used to be the case in,

01:54:42.200 for example, a few hundred years ago that a lot of primary philosophers like Immanuel Kant,

01:54:46.920 Hegel didn't even believe women could be reasonable. Now here you are today doing a debate with...

01:54:53.480 They can't be. We can't be. Look, I might be reasonable right now,

01:54:59.800 but I mean, who knows? I might be unreasonable tomorrow. I've seen more reasonable women than

01:55:05.080 me become completely unreasonable. God, we can only hope, you know what I mean?

01:55:12.440 With me, where we're using logic and reason to get to the...

01:55:15.560 Absolutely.

01:55:16.120 ...and nobody here would dismiss the claim that you can't be rational or logical or be,

01:55:21.080 for example, a great lawyer because you're a woman.

01:55:23.400 Right. So I totally agree with you that women, but I think they have actually entered into the

01:55:28.600 workforce. I mean, entered into college under this external pressure of feeling that if you don't go to...

01:55:32.760 The best thing about women crying for equality is when it arrives,

01:55:35.640 when accountability is part of the deal, hence the student loan issue. Yep.

01:55:39.640 College are going to be a failure.

01:55:40.760 So you'd admit the pressures are a part of the way interests work.

01:55:43.800 Yes, but we're disagreeing on where the pressure is coming from. I think that now the pressure is

01:55:47.800 that if a woman doesn't enter the force, there's no longer this idea that, okay, we're going to come

01:55:51.960 together as a family. Whereas there was this reality that there was this understanding that you would

01:55:56.120 have a partner. People were getting married when they were 18, 19 years old, our grandparents.

01:56:00.360 Now it's because of feminism. And I'm saying, this is actually, this is the downside of feminism.

01:56:05.560 Women no longer have that sense. They think that if they have to be pressured to go take out a loan,

01:56:10.840 to go to college, and then you have the pressure to get...

01:56:13.240 Well, they have the same pressures as men because women no longer rely on it for an income.

01:56:17.480 Pause. You've been voted out by the majority.

01:56:19.240 I did.

01:56:19.800 We're going to end it on him. So tomorrow we're going to finish this. We're at 54 minutes.

01:56:24.680 And I, I'm really excited to react to feminism has made things easier for men.

01:56:31.240 Um, to the editors, make that part of the title in the cut, like in the quotes, put Candace's face

01:56:36.840 and put quotes. Feminism has made things easier for men. Other thing, um, on the Pearl learning

01:56:44.440 platform we're making, I'm making a really in-depth course about how to build a YouTube channel.

01:56:48.920 Um, it's going to go through like the, basically the routes you're going to go, if you want

01:56:56.440 to learn the skills yourself, or if you'd want to hire someone to do them, um, and how to pick

01:57:01.720 good and bad editors. Um, cause I can tell you mistakes I've made, good choices I've made.

01:57:07.080 We recently had a woman graduate law school with down syndrome. Damn, they're letting anybody go.

01:57:11.880 But so if you guys have specific questions that have to do with, um, how to build a YouTube

01:57:17.560 channel, I, I really want to make this like a really extensive course. So, um, also in the next

01:57:26.360 few weeks, I'm going to bring back the Tuesday, like bringing people on to give presentations.

01:57:32.360 I do apologize for the slowdown when we were filming content for the, um, course, uh, because we

01:57:38.280 have some course content already. We just, you know, again, a year and a half of unstaffed.

01:57:44.600 Now we're getting things moving again, which is really great. Cause we have really good team in

01:57:49.240 place, but, um, yeah. So Pearl, ever since you got to smart, do you monetize his Pierce,

01:57:57.000 not invited you back on his show. Um, yeah. If you guys have questions for the end of the show,

01:58:01.880 I don't mind doing, I'm just putting the super chat. Um, yeah, I mean, I think Pierce stopped

01:58:08.760 inviting me on one cause I left England. Like they liked cause I would come on the show and two,

01:58:15.000 um, I'm just not as famous or like well-known as I used to be. You know what I mean? Like at the one

01:58:20.440 point this channel had a billion views. I was getting a hundred million views a month and I like

01:58:25.400 skyrocketed and it was almost in a way that wasn't the smartest. I really enjoy my level of fame.

01:58:32.600 Now I really do. Um, because I, I enjoy this job, but I don't really like, there's a point where I was

01:58:41.480 kind of nervous. I couldn't live a normal life. Like you don't really want to feel like

01:58:48.440 you can't do normal things without people tweeting about it or texts, you know, or just like, you know,

01:58:55.000 like nobody wants to go in public and feel like everybody's watching them and just ready to.

01:59:00.920 So I would say it's probably cause I just don't get the views I used to get. Um,

01:59:07.000 you know, does anyone else have any questions? Um, let me read the other thing. If you guys want to

01:59:16.280 donate to the divorce documentary, um, that's really been a long project of mine. I'd really like to

01:59:22.360 finish it, but we just got to get to a hundred K. Um, then I can really put real moves. We've got

01:59:28.200 31,000, which is pretty cool. Pretty cool. You guys are great. Um, but I really want to have like

01:59:35.720 a six months to a year salary saved for the person we hired to do this. And the reason is, um, I would

01:59:43.400 hate to start and stop again because that's really what happened last time. Um, let's see what we got.

01:59:55.640 I don't know. I don't need bodyguards. Um,

02:00:01.160 I don't, well, I don't want to say that. I don't want to jinx it, but I can live a normal life now,

02:00:06.600 but way after the Tate interview, everywhere I went, I would be recognized. Like I couldn't really

02:00:12.760 go outside and not have someone come up to me and want to take a picture and stuff. Um, I still do

02:00:19.480 now, but it's just a lot less where I can just live a lot more normal of life. Um, probably dipped out.

02:00:26.040 Um, did you answer my chat about needing an editor? Okay. So, um,

02:00:31.960 um, I I'm not hiring for the documentary thing. I I'm raising the money first. Once we raise the

02:00:38.680 money, I'll look into that. Um, we are hiring clippers. So we have to figure out the onboarding

02:00:45.880 process, but I have a lot of clips channels that are monetized. Um, and I'm doing 20, 80 splits with

02:00:52.040 people. There's no cap. So, but we need to train the people we onboard on how to not get, um,

02:00:58.680 um, I need you guys to not clip or do certain, I need you guys to stay within guidelines in your

02:01:08.360 clippings. So you can't get hate speech in the title or the thumbnail. So we got to figure out a way to

02:01:15.400 manage that. So once we figure that out, we are doing 20, 80 splits. Um, and there's going to be an

02:01:23.960 affiliate program with that for the course. Uh, let's see what else. If there's anything else I

02:01:33.000 should read, otherwise we're going to end the show because I got a,

02:01:36.200 I think that's it. That's all I got. Um, well, thank you guys for watching. I really appreciate

02:01:59.480 it as usual. You guys are a pleasure. Uh, thank you so much for allowing me to do what I do. I'm very

02:02:04.600 grateful because I do very much enjoy the show. So thanks guys for making that a possibility.

02:02:10.520 Please like the video on your way out. Please subscribe to the channel and bring that notification

02:02:14.600 bell and I will see you guys next time. All right. Bye-bye.

02:02:34.600 Bye-bye.

JustPearlyThings - July 01, 2025

Candace Debates Feminists ｜ Pearl Reacts

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