JustPearlyThings - Candace Owens Debates Feminists PART TWO ｜ Pearl Reacts

00:00:00.000 My bad.

00:00:03.480 All right.

00:00:06.380 So there's this clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question.

00:00:12.440 Do we need men? 0.81

00:00:14.740 Most answered very quickly, no.

00:00:17.600 Because men are useless. 0.89

00:00:20.440 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.

00:00:23.440 Most young men are single.

00:00:25.140 Most young women are not. 0.88

00:00:26.320 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America.

00:00:29.820 Over the last 40 years.

00:00:31.100 It's a different world now.

00:00:32.120 Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.

00:00:34.140 Nobody needs men! 1.00

00:00:35.360 The future is female. 1.00

00:00:38.400 Men and women are drifting further apart.

00:00:41.900 And society is crumbling because of it.

00:00:45.260 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.

00:00:48.200 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.

00:00:50.880 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.

00:00:54.320 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.

00:00:58.400 Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.

00:01:01.180 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.

00:01:04.200 Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married. 0.99

00:01:09.160 Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things. 0.79

00:01:12.740 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.

00:01:16.440 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.

00:01:19.240 Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.

00:01:24.520 Gee, what could go wrong there?

00:01:26.740 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women. 0.53

00:01:30.200 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children. 0.81

00:01:33.080 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws. 0.73

00:01:35.760 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.

00:01:40.700 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.

00:01:43.940 You need no evidence.

00:01:44.880 It's when you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.

00:01:48.780 And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.

00:01:52.100 I interviewed them on the other side.

00:01:54.640 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.

00:01:57.100 How much did you spend trying to get him back?

00:01:59.080 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.

00:02:01.440 Before you know it, you're homeless.

00:02:02.880 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.

00:02:04.780 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women. 1.00

00:02:07.220 Wives are taught to leave their husbands. 0.99

00:02:08.900 And then daughters grow up without their fathers.

00:02:11.520 Family is the foundation of society.

00:02:13.080 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes. 1.00

00:02:16.380 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness. 1.00

00:02:20.680 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women. 1.00

00:02:22.640 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.

00:02:24.440 We tell them to put off family into marriage. 0.99

00:02:26.220 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.

00:02:28.980 You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.

00:02:33.440 Oh, freeze your eggs.

00:02:34.240 Have an abortion.

00:02:35.280 What?

00:02:35.680 You're evil.

00:02:36.360 I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.

00:02:40.180 Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.

00:02:47.180 It's self-sabotage.

00:02:48.100 And that's the thing.

00:02:48.640 Like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy. 1.00

00:02:51.880 This is not about happiness.

00:02:53.660 The most important thing is the children.

00:02:55.940 And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings.

00:03:00.440 Leave when I feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids.

00:03:03.560 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?

00:03:08.380 They think, well, men have all the rights. 0.95

00:03:09.920 They have all the power.

00:03:11.180 Privileged patriarchal system that we have.

00:03:13.440 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights? 0.99

00:03:16.080 I have no friends.

00:03:17.380 No white. 0.88

00:03:18.120 And no social life.

00:03:19.300 Men are alone in this situation.

00:03:21.220 Men are homeless.

00:03:22.180 Men are thinking about eating guns.

00:03:23.540 I have seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.

00:03:28.340 How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?

00:03:33.740 The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.

00:03:37.600 Women are helplessly dependent upon men. 0.99

00:03:40.260 The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.

00:03:47.360 Culture is telling men, you are no good.

00:03:49.200 You've got to get your act together.

00:03:50.420 I think men have failed themselves.

00:03:51.820 What kind of a man are you?

00:03:53.020 What kind of a woman are you going to attract? 1.00

00:03:55.320 If men are in trouble, so are women. 0.66

00:03:57.940 Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.

00:04:01.580 Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man to get... 1.00

00:04:03.800 500K.

00:04:04.480 500K.

00:04:05.100 300K.

00:04:05.700 200K.

00:04:05.880 200K.

00:04:06.320 Am I crazy?

00:04:07.020 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.

00:04:09.260 If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them. 1.00

00:04:12.860 So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?

00:04:16.760 Women. 0.81

00:04:18.220 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.

00:04:20.280 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.

00:04:22.540 I'm over it.

00:04:23.540 When is it going to be my turn?

00:04:24.960 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?

00:04:26.760 I can't keep having these same conversations.

00:04:29.260 The only simp here is you, Pearl.

00:04:31.000 You simp for men. 0.99

00:04:32.000 No, I think you simp for women. 1.00

00:04:33.000 She's a provocateur, she says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.

00:04:36.300 It's already happening, it's just not out in the open yet.

00:04:38.920 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairytale ending because men don't want 0.99

00:04:42.640 a wife and women can't find a husband. 1.00

00:04:44.460 The future, if everybody follows their path, is there is no future.

00:04:48.960 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.

00:04:52.740 Civilization will crumble.

00:04:54.560 The American story does not end well.

00:04:57.140 This is an existential crisis failing young men.

00:05:00.080 What up guys, welcome to the Audacity Network and welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily.

00:05:12.340 If you guys want, feel free to donate to that trailer.

00:05:15.460 It's the Divorce Documentary and the GoFundMe link in the bio.

00:05:18.580 We're at $31,000, almost $32,000 raised for it.

00:05:23.180 Once we get to around $100,000, we can hire a full production team and get the movie done.

00:05:29.720 But as you know, they have demonetized me.

00:05:32.800 They have kicked me off.

00:05:33.820 I've gone through eight TikToks, either three or four Instagrams.

00:05:39.700 And I was demonetized on YouTube, all because I tried to tell the truth about the divorce issue.

00:05:47.780 But they scream at you.

00:05:50.240 I'll tell you what.

00:05:50.880 But they do not, feminists do not want the truth about marriage getting out. 1.00

00:05:55.180 All right.

00:05:55.500 So today we are reacting to part two of the Candace Owens interview, or sorry, debate on Jubilee.

00:06:03.440 Or as you guys know, Candace Owens.

00:06:05.040 I like Candace Owens.

00:06:06.620 I think she's got some good ideas.

00:06:08.520 However, she's just as feminist as any woman is. 1.00

00:06:13.860 You know, I hate to say it because I guess on paper, like every woman is a feminist to some degree 0.65

00:06:20.360 because it's 2025, baby.

00:06:22.200 You know, you can't.

00:06:27.240 You can't really have.

00:06:29.560 There's no such thing as a traditional woman in 2025. 1.00

00:06:32.480 It's just women cosplaying. 1.00

00:06:33.880 And anybody that's trying to sell themselves as that or market it differently is lying to you and trying to sell you something.

00:06:40.580 I had this issue when I went on Michael Knowles' show.

00:06:42.920 So as you guys know, I went on the Michael Knowles show and I had a debate with him.

00:06:47.500 That was like, I don't know why I was so nervous when I did that debate.

00:06:52.000 I don't like, I never know when I'm going to be ambushed.

00:06:55.220 And he actually didn't.

00:06:56.340 Very nice guy.

00:06:57.820 But I just, the same as Candace Owens, I don't think they're very honest about what they're doing.

00:07:08.580 Because what is feminism at its core? 1.00

00:07:11.420 Feminism is a strategy because women did not want to be saddled down with betas. 1.00

00:07:18.160 That's really what it is at its core.

00:07:19.940 Women don't want to reproduce with beta men. 1.00

00:07:22.320 They don't want to have children with beta men. 0.99

00:07:25.100 It's nature correcting itself.

00:07:27.300 For most of history, 10, 20% of men reproduced.

00:07:32.020 Women are fighting tooth and nail to get rid of monogamy. 1.00

00:07:35.760 Women don't want it. 1.00

00:07:37.420 You know, the men said, don't you want a guy to love you and treat you right?

00:07:43.020 And the women said, hell no. 1.00

00:07:45.720 And the men said, let's do arranged marriages. 1.00

00:07:49.100 You know, your dad's going to pick out a guy for you.

00:07:51.260 You're going to get some resources.

00:07:53.220 We'll trade you for a donkey or something.

00:07:55.960 We got a dowry going on.

00:07:57.700 And the women said, no, I want to sell my butthole on OnlyFans. 1.00

00:08:02.980 Because what do women value? 1.00

00:08:04.640 Women want to hook up with hot men that are out of their league. 1.00

00:08:09.300 Women want to prolong marriage as long as possible. 1.00

00:08:13.080 In order to stick the landing with the best guy they possibly can.

00:08:19.340 And women want to hook up with hot guys. 1.00

00:08:21.640 And women want ultimate freedom. 1.00

00:08:23.460 Women want to hook up with the hot guys and not have the responsibility of getting on his program. 1.00

00:08:29.840 That's why women worship women like Kim Kardashian. 1.00

00:08:34.420 Because Kim Kardashian has the ultimate freedom.

00:08:36.860 She gets to do whatever she wants, when she wants.

00:08:39.100 She still is good looking enough. 1.00

00:08:41.560 She can hook up with hot guys. 1.00

00:08:45.600 And she keeps getting commitment to some degree from high level men.

00:08:49.420 No matter how bad of a 304 she is. 1.00

00:08:52.520 And that's the feminist dream, truly. 1.00

00:08:53.980 So, you know, my question is, to all the women that say they're special and different. 0.94

00:09:00.980 I did not say I am.

00:09:03.980 You know, why didn't you marry your high school sweetheart?

00:09:07.240 So, I go on these shows, right?

00:09:09.200 And I just keep getting this pushback.

00:09:11.520 Like, why don't I just find a good...

00:09:13.100 Why do you tell men...

00:09:14.900 They call me a doomer, right?

00:09:16.480 They call me a doomer, a gloomer.

00:09:18.420 And they say, why don't you tell men to, like, get married? 0.98

00:09:22.140 You know, marriage makes men happy.

00:09:27.100 That's what they tell me.

00:09:27.960 Children make men happy.

00:09:30.380 And the reason I don't say that, it's not because, you know, I'm against marriage necessarily.

00:09:36.460 I'm not here to tell you what to do.

00:09:38.340 I personally think it's out of place for me or any YouTuber to tell you what to do with your life.

00:09:44.060 I don't know.

00:09:44.540 You could be a Chad.

00:09:46.380 And who am I to tell you to put down your rotational women? 1.00

00:09:50.700 You could be a Brad.

00:09:52.140 You could be an average guy.

00:09:53.460 You could be an ugly guy.

00:09:54.340 Maybe marriage isn't even on the table for you.

00:09:56.660 But it's mostly because I've done interviews and I get emails like this.

00:10:04.300 Okay.

00:10:04.940 So, I want to...

00:10:05.760 Don't show my screen or anything because I want to keep this guy's private.

00:10:09.100 So, this guy, he sent me his marriage story and he said, Pearl, I am unique in that I asked God to show me who my wife was.

00:10:22.380 I met her at a church and when asked for confirmation from my pastor, I was told to leave it at the altar.

00:10:36.760 I was eventually kicked out of the church and this was before social media.

00:10:40.540 So, this made the situation impossible.

00:10:42.920 She eventually called me and we were married 18 days later.

00:10:46.520 I'm leaving out details to save time, but we were married for five years.

00:10:49.900 She left and I was served with an order of protection.

00:10:53.100 I was forced to divorce her.

00:10:54.540 So, I'm part of the 20% of men who file, but in response to her legal actions and finding prayers in her journals, claiming she would eventually be with another man.

00:11:04.120 My attorney worked for free for 11 years, defending me against all of her nonsense, but eventually, I no longer had it in me to fight and I gave her what she wanted, me completely removed from her life and my children's life.

00:11:16.680 I was basically homeless, living with a random man I met on Craigslist when God moved me to Nebraska and rebuilt my life far better than it ever was.

00:11:25.580 I stumbled upon your content years ago and it was confirmed that I make the right decision.

00:11:29.520 For that, I want to thank you, but I also want to point out that you can vet and pick a church woman, but it doesn't matter. 0.86

00:11:37.140 I don't know why God put me with her knowing what was going to happen.

00:11:40.640 It's a question I think about every day, but I do know if it wasn't for God, I wouldn't have gotten the healing.

00:11:47.500 I needed to crawl into the bottle, into a bottle and never look back.

00:11:52.440 I think about Joseph being sold into slavery and then eventually going to prison before being put in charge of the known world.

00:12:00.180 He went nearly 20 years and never saw his family again.

00:12:02.660 So in time, we will see what God's plan was.

00:12:05.080 So yeah, men get, I met another guy, right?

00:12:09.800 Terrence, who's on the show.

00:12:10.920 And he said that he had all these factors that he looked for in a woman under like 30, had no debt, stable job, married parents.

00:12:23.680 And he had a whole list, right?

00:12:26.200 Not fat.

00:12:31.220 And his wife killed his dog.

00:12:33.220 She literally murdered his dog. 1.00

00:12:35.200 And the truth is, you don't know who someone is until you've seen them with power.

00:12:40.800 And I've seen women better than me, like women that I would consider in all intents and purposes, just better people than me.

00:12:47.840 You know, I would say they're probably nicer, more helpful, more, you know, like where I just said they're more feminine. 0.79

00:12:54.180 They married younger.

00:12:55.100 And I'm like, wow, you have it all.

00:13:00.040 And the next thing I, time I see them, they're telling me they were abused.

00:13:05.200 So people love to blame God.

00:13:12.640 Look, I'm not saying to blame God or don't blame God.

00:13:15.000 I'm just saying that frame is going to be far more helpful.

00:13:23.300 Learning to not be afraid of women is going to be a lot more helpful than finding a good woman.

00:13:29.340 Okay.

00:13:29.620 So now we're going to react to Candace's claim.

00:13:35.680 Where do I want to start?

00:13:40.320 Okay.

00:13:41.760 Candace Owens versus one conservative versus 20 feminists.

00:13:47.620 Station.

00:13:48.220 Might have to come back to you.

00:13:49.380 Oh, sorry.

00:13:52.440 I forgot to finish a thought before I go.

00:13:55.020 So Candace Owens, she markets herself as special, different, but like none of these women, very few marry before 30, right? 0.97

00:14:04.600 Or before 25 at that.

00:14:06.540 And usually if they do marry young, they delay the kids.

00:14:08.920 And if they do have kids, they're still like, you know, Brett Cooper's having a kid, but she just accepted Fox and friends.

00:14:15.960 Do you know what I mean?

00:14:17.160 And they keep saying, well, I get to work from home and be an influencer.

00:14:20.380 Well, as an influencer, you still like, you're not supposed to have leverage.

00:14:25.120 Like you can leverage your audience against your husband.

00:14:27.940 You can, um, get potential suitors through your social media.

00:14:35.840 You draw attention away from your husband, you know, and I'm not saying that's right or wrong.

00:14:40.360 I don't care, but it's not what they're selling.

00:14:43.380 And I think women, especially, they do this for long enough and we, we just kind of start to believe our own bullshit. 0.98

00:14:49.860 We really do.

00:14:51.740 Um, and that's what I see with Candace is, you know, she's kind of gotten to market herself like this for so long. 0.98

00:15:01.120 Um, she, I, I actually think the, the veil, the mask is kind of coming off because she keeps getting called out and cooked over this.

00:15:10.860 But all right, let's continue.

00:15:13.380 Oh, but she also pushed off marriage in order to get a very attractive husband, right? 0.98

00:15:20.160 Very good looking guy worth like $250 million.

00:15:23.840 She said no to her high school, sweetheart, no to her college, sweetheart, no to whoever the hell she dated in her 20s. 1.00

00:15:29.700 And she said, I will not settle until I get a Chad worth a bajillion dollars.

00:15:35.560 And hey, you won the game, Chica, you won.

00:15:39.180 But we're not going to like, we got to call this for what it is.

00:15:42.100 Okay.

00:15:43.380 Hi guys Owens, I'm Paris.

00:15:47.080 Very nice to meet you.

00:15:47.980 Nice to meet you.

00:15:48.580 So can I explain to you why I believe we live in a patriarchy and why I believe we live in a society is preferential to men?

00:15:54.240 So I'm going to use the example of male violence.

00:15:56.160 There's a lot of places I can look, but we're going to talk about that.

00:15:58.220 81% of women have been sexually assaulted.

00:16:00.720 One in six have been raped.

00:16:02.020 One in four women are the victims of domestic violence.

00:16:03.920 98% of perpetrators of rape and sexual assault are men.

00:16:07.640 95% of perpetrators of domestic violence are men.

00:16:10.520 And actually, in regards to human trafficking, 70% of human trafficking victims are women.

00:16:15.620 So we're seeing a very clear issue of men being violent towards women.

00:16:18.600 And then when we look at the way that our government handles that, one out of three rapes go reported.

00:16:23.620 And then out of the ones that go reported, 7% end in jail time.

00:16:26.840 So if we're looking at that and we're looking at the fact that our government doesn't really get that worried about male violence.

00:16:32.080 Well, so what I would say is, going back to the biological differences, men are naturally inclined more towards aggression than women are. 0.88

00:16:40.840 So I am not shocked by...

00:16:44.400 Feminism, right there. 1.00

00:16:46.760 Men are naturally more inclined towards aggression than women. 1.00

00:16:52.620 Can you imagine if women had the strength of men? 0.65

00:16:54.840 Hell no.

00:16:57.220 Women are far more aggressive. 1.00

00:17:00.200 Not even close.

00:17:01.140 Women have murdered. 1.00

00:17:02.580 You believe abortion is murder, right?

00:17:04.920 They have murdered an eighth of the world population.

00:17:10.340 You know the most dangerous place you could be?

00:17:12.740 It's not in a room full of men.

00:17:14.440 Like if men were so violent.

00:17:17.120 It's in your mother's womb. 0.98

00:17:21.560 Are you telling me?

00:17:22.580 Even if you looked at, like I said, male on male crime.

00:17:24.840 You would see that there are more instances of men killing other men than there are instances of women killing other women.

00:17:30.320 And that, I think, actually speaks to our biological differences, which is actually at the root of everything that I believe about feminism being a lie. 1.00

00:17:36.140 It's because they're trying to program people to believe.

00:17:38.500 Yeah, but women kill children, Candace. 1.00

00:17:40.700 Can you imagine if women could kill other women with their hands? 1.00

00:17:44.340 Holy.

00:17:45.220 Because most murder, I've looked into this, most murders are done, they're like fights gone wrong.

00:17:51.680 So it's usually not like an intentional murder, but a guy hits the guy, the guy in the head too hard and killed.

00:17:57.140 I believe that men and women are the same.

00:17:59.520 Now, I don't think that pointing to the fact that men are more aggressive than women, which is a point that you and I 1,000% agree on, whether or not that manifests in the very wrong way of men harming other men, which I think they do more probably than they are beating women, men on male on male violence.

00:18:18.220 That manifestation doesn't change the fact that men and women are just biologically hardwired different.

00:18:23.820 I think it's actually proof of that.

00:18:25.340 I don't think it has anything to do with the fact of power dynamics in this country, because to the contrary, if you look at prison rates and talking about how disparities don't mean anything, the majority of overwhelmed people that are in prison are male, right?

00:18:35.940 Because they don't send women to jail for crimes. 1.00

00:18:39.600 You know, an example of this, I can't remember what men get, like four times the sentencing women do. 0.98

00:18:48.240 And that doesn't include like women that do petty shoplifting and they just don't pursue it. 1.00

00:18:54.540 You know, there is a woman that literally murdered her mother with her boyfriend and the boyfriend's in jail for life.

00:19:00.400 And she got like five, 10 years and women can't kill with their hands. 1.00

00:19:08.460 There's a reason for that.

00:19:09.380 So when it manifests on in a good way, that male aggression, you know, is the reason why we have men defend.

00:19:14.520 Someone's mad because I rated Candace Owens a six.

00:19:17.920 You're wrong.

00:19:18.360 I rated her a five.

00:19:20.900 Facially, I'm sorry.

00:19:21.960 She's a five. 0.93

00:19:23.100 I don't say this to be mean.

00:19:24.860 I don't say this to be rude.

00:19:27.380 It's not because I have my disagreements with Candace.

00:19:29.820 It's just, look, if I had to, if I was doing casting, maybe when she was younger, she was a six, but she's like in her mid thirties.

00:19:40.440 That's a five.

00:19:42.180 She's thin.

00:19:43.760 So I guess in America, you could say.

00:19:49.400 Like.

00:19:50.840 I guess in America, you could say she would be in the top maybe 30 or 40 percent, but the equivalent of that is, you know, just because the league's getting worse doesn't make you hotter, just makes the league worse. 0.95

00:20:02.580 So just because American women are fat, it doesn't make your rating higher. 1.00

00:20:06.860 I say I'm a five, right?

00:20:08.940 Maybe a four.

00:20:10.020 You know, I don't really.

00:20:11.100 I'm not saying I'm the epitome of beauty here.

00:20:15.040 But neither is she.

00:20:16.560 You know, and you can see this because she's in conservative media. 0.98

00:20:19.680 Look, and if we were hot enough to be in Playboy, we'd all be in Playboy.

00:20:24.960 You know, it's just it's always very convenient.

00:20:27.540 And I thought about this because I used to think.

00:20:31.140 Because I've just I've never been a super like a dressing really provocatively person.

00:20:37.060 Right.

00:20:37.320 And I used to think I was like, I'm so moral.

00:20:40.200 And then I thought about it and I'm like, well.

00:20:45.440 It's always convenient when mids are modest.

00:20:49.680 Do you know what I mean?

00:20:52.280 Like, it's very convenient for a mid to be modest because we don't get as much out of being immodest. 1.00

00:21:01.260 But a hot girl, if she doesn't show her knockers, like, you know, the stuff she's going to miss out on. 1.00

00:21:08.980 And I had to think about it.

00:21:10.320 I was like, well, I'm not going on these yachts in Miami.

00:21:12.440 And I like to think I like to think I wouldn't.

00:21:14.600 Right.

00:21:15.940 But I've never been invited.

00:21:17.360 So it's really easy.

00:21:18.220 And the equivalent of this is the equivalent of this is the men that say they don't cheat.

00:21:29.320 And every man that like I've heard say, oh, I don't cheat.

00:21:33.480 They're either lying.

00:21:37.940 They don't understand.

00:21:39.520 They don't know they could cheat.

00:21:41.100 Or they they literally can't cheat.

00:21:49.000 Yeah, I don't care.

00:21:50.060 I can look at four, five, six.

00:21:55.580 She's a man, right?

00:21:56.600 She's five.

00:21:57.600 Facially five.

00:21:59.080 I I can't see if she's got boobs or butt. 1.00

00:22:01.880 But I don't think I think she's pretty flat.

00:22:04.700 So men prefer the curves. 0.74

00:22:12.060 Anyways.

00:22:12.460 Wow, you don't like Candace. 0.99

00:22:19.100 Well, OK, so let me get this straight.

00:22:22.140 I'm supposed to.

00:22:24.880 Give people hotness points because I like them or don't like them.

00:22:30.320 No, I got it.

00:22:31.140 I got to be objective in my ratings.

00:22:33.480 OK.

00:22:33.720 No, she doesn't get a point for being married. 1.00

00:22:38.260 You don't get a point in how hot you are for being married.

00:22:42.280 That doesn't that's not how it works.

00:22:45.460 A beauty points is if you were on a on a web, how many swipe rights would you get on a dating app?

00:22:53.460 Based on your face and your body, how many men would say would versus wouldn't?

00:23:03.720 Thank you.

00:23:07.200 And us, you know, men that are willing to go to war and die for our nation.

00:23:11.000 So aggression being an aspect of masculinity has nothing to do with the conversation of whether or not feminism is harming women today. 0.60

00:23:19.160 I mean, I agree with you.

00:23:20.380 We agree.

00:23:20.920 In our biologically.

00:23:21.780 Yes.

00:23:22.320 But I don't.

00:23:23.240 Yeah, like this is like a three facially.

00:23:27.260 Not looking good.

00:23:30.920 Not good.

00:23:33.720 What I want you to connect it to is, I guess, power, because what I'm talking about when I say that we're existing under a matriarchy is that I believe that the social pressures politically and socially that are coming. 0.95

00:23:45.900 And even within our music, if we talk about Hollywood, it's very much has become.

00:23:50.360 That power means nothing.

00:23:51.280 Like just because like who was on the top music charts of women have paid maternity leave. 1.00

00:23:55.000 That's not like how are the how are things panning out on the family courts?

00:23:57.780 Why are abusive men having access to their children?

00:23:59.360 Like why are women making less than men? 1.00

00:24:01.800 Like what?

00:24:02.240 I mean, none of that means anything to me.

00:24:03.860 So that gap, obviously, I'm sure you've recognized the gender gap has been debunked so many times.

00:24:08.100 It's almost foolish to debunk it again.

00:24:09.440 Well, you could say, yeah, that most women will go into jobs where they're making less. 1.00

00:24:12.860 But then it does answer the question of why do we not value women's labor?

00:24:15.580 Like, can you imagine if I was on this panel?

00:24:19.100 I would say women are more retarded. 1.00

00:24:25.380 Like, imagine if that was me.

00:24:26.880 I would say, yeah, because women are dumber. 1.00

00:24:30.720 Not all, not all, not all.

00:24:34.840 They're not getting paid as much because they don't do as much work.

00:24:39.680 Mm-hmm.

00:24:40.460 It's not that's not valuing women's labor.

00:24:42.400 It's just a reality that if you are going to be a person that aspires to become a brain surgeon,

00:24:46.640 you are going to make more money than a person that aspires to do something that's, you know, like, in the household.

00:24:54.300 Can we go back to the real violence question?

00:24:56.240 Yeah.

00:24:56.460 Why does our country not persecute men then who are rapists?

00:24:59.920 Well, the majority of people who are in prison are men.

00:25:02.060 So they, I, I, I don't know what you.

00:25:04.920 Because women keep lying about it. 1.00

00:25:09.120 Can you imagine?

00:25:12.400 They would just crash out.

00:25:14.280 I go on these shows.

00:25:15.420 They crash out.

00:25:17.640 Yeah, maybe if we just stopped lying so much.

00:25:24.780 Yeah.

00:25:26.160 You mean that we don't prosecute men that are rapists?

00:25:28.800 We even prosecute people.

00:25:29.760 7% go to jail.

00:25:31.540 Only 7% go to jail.

00:25:32.880 I don't know what that has to do with the question of whether or not we're living in a matriarchy or a patriarchy. 0.96

00:25:36.320 Because our government is preferential to men. 0.97

00:25:39.780 If you're saying that they only like to arrest men.

00:25:42.040 That's not true because the Duluth model is based on the fact that men are automatically seen in a position of power.

00:25:48.780 But even some of the women that made the Duluth model, which the whole justice system is based off. 1.00

00:25:53.240 But Candace, I'm giving you answers here, which the whole justice system is based off of.

00:25:58.920 Even the people that, like, one of the people that made it said that it gave preferential treatment to women. 1.00

00:26:07.100 And in most abusive cases, they're beating each other.

00:26:09.680 When they kill someone, but they are, our government is awarding men for raping women. 0.87

00:26:21.300 I don't understand what you're saying.

00:26:21.940 They're not, they don't care.

00:26:23.620 Rape is effectively legal. 0.99

00:26:25.200 You can literally rape a woman. 0.99

00:26:29.400 You have a very low likelihood of actually going to jail as a man.

00:26:32.600 Rape is effectively legal. 0.99

00:26:33.740 It's effectively legal.

00:26:34.880 How many men are actually going to jail for rape?

00:26:36.340 I actually agree with you that in terms of sex crimes, and I don't know how you're peeling out women because I. 0.72

00:26:41.300 If women, if women are so afraid of being raped, then why are they going out alone at night to party? 0.95

00:26:49.140 If women are so afraid of men, why are women traveling alone across countries? 0.85

00:26:56.900 Why?

00:26:57.700 I would even, and again, this has nothing to do with our argument today, but I would even say that people are not being prosecuted hard enough when we're dealing with crimes against children, period.

00:27:06.060 Like, talking about sexual crime.

00:27:08.760 Mm-mm.

00:27:11.040 Because even children lie about that stuff, too, but I can't talk about that.

00:27:17.720 I only found you a few days ago.

00:27:19.260 I love your show, but sometimes it makes me so bad.

00:27:21.880 Mad.

00:27:22.240 Keep doing what you're doing.

00:27:23.160 Thank you, James.

00:27:23.880 Candace Owens is the rule, but she never says the conversation is about the rule and not, is the conversation is about the rule, not the exception, average situation.

00:27:36.620 Candace Owens is the rule. 1.00

00:27:38.620 When women get power and money, when women have the opportunity to, we will always pick ourselves above our family. 1.00

00:27:46.300 She's not leaving the public eye when she has her family.

00:27:49.960 No.

00:27:52.780 Did she, yeah, did she have kids with her college sweetheart? 0.95

00:27:58.520 No.

00:27:59.020 Like, no, she had to hold out and get that conservative money. 0.96

00:28:03.080 I don't mind.

00:28:03.880 I don't even, I'm not even gonna, like, fault her for it.

00:28:07.300 Can you blame her?

00:28:07.980 Like, if you were Candace Owens and you had the opportunity to marry into a ton of money with an attractive British guy, I mean, who could blame her?

00:28:17.860 Like, she got engaged in 30 days.

00:28:21.000 Obviously, like, obviously, right?

00:28:22.900 But my point is, she's the rule.

00:28:25.600 And the rule is women will pick themselves over their money and they use their kids and their husband to build their brand. 1.00

00:28:31.640 So, it's not like she's just debating conservative politics.

00:28:35.140 She's using her husband and her kids to build her family and virtue signal, basically saying, I'm a good person.

00:28:44.680 So, that's my point.

00:28:47.320 Times not being prosecuted in this country is a whole other conversation.

00:28:51.040 And you will not get a disagreement with me.

00:28:52.320 But I think that it's wrong to say that it's somehow attached to being a woman when you know there are so many children that are going through the exact same thing.

00:28:58.280 I mean, if men are child predators, then why are so many women getting arrested for sleeping with students? 1.00

00:29:08.680 Sentences that are tossed out for pedophiles.

00:29:10.940 It's completely ridiculous.

00:29:12.000 Yeah, that's terrible.

00:29:12.720 Pause.

00:29:13.020 But I don't think it has anything to do with conversation that we're having right now.

00:29:15.760 But I agree with everything to do with it.

00:29:17.200 And you're separating it.

00:29:18.140 That's time.

00:29:19.340 Thank you for having your seat.

00:29:20.920 I'm going to add five more minutes to this claim. 0.98

00:29:28.280 Nice to meet you.

00:29:30.560 Hi, Adam.

00:29:31.220 Nice to meet you.

00:29:32.440 So, your claim is, just to be clear, that we live in a matriarchy, right? 0.97

00:29:35.700 So, I think even you would agree that on a global level, that's obviously ridiculous when there are countries where people literally are on or killed for, like, Instagram posts.

00:29:42.920 But even if we're talking about just the U.S., right, we don't have paid maternity leave.

00:29:46.900 They're not going to sleep with you. 0.96

00:29:50.140 That would be my response.

00:29:53.400 Like, why are you doing this?

00:29:54.780 They're not going to sleep with you. 0.96

00:29:56.180 So, single mother, domineering mother, working mother, I'm sure.

00:30:09.440 Abortion is illegal in over a dozen different states.

00:30:12.200 And as someone earlier was mentioning, women are overwhelmingly the victims of sexual violence and domestic abuse.

00:30:18.060 So, no, they're not.

00:30:24.740 They're not.

00:30:27.000 That doesn't seem like a very well-designed matriarchy where women are victims or, you know, lacking power in so many different realms of society on, like, a structural level. 1.00

00:30:34.400 I just do not think that women are lacking power on a structural level because they can't, which they can, by the way, abort their children. 1.00

00:30:40.720 Is that, like, one of your components?

00:30:42.160 Is that?

00:30:42.340 There's many states where abortion is illegal.

00:30:44.080 Do you dispute that?

00:30:44.820 Okay, if you can't drive five hours to get an abortion, then you don't really want it.

00:30:52.160 You don't want it that bad.

00:30:53.760 You don't.

00:30:56.340 You can do that on the weekends.

00:30:57.940 They can mail you abortion pills.

00:30:59.860 Like, I'm just sick of the excuses.

00:31:02.320 Look at, ladies, if you want to kill your kids so bad, there are, you have the opportunity, go take it. 1.00

00:31:08.380 I don't care anymore.

00:31:10.000 I don't.

00:31:11.280 I am going to dispute that having a child is somehow something that restricts women in any capacity, like you're saying that.

00:31:17.020 What about the ability to decide what you do with your own body?

00:31:18.760 I don't believe that it's, I don't believe that murder is something that you should be allowed to decide.

00:31:22.380 Sure, and murder is illegal.

00:31:23.880 That's actually what you're doing to somebody else's body.

00:31:26.040 So I'm pro-life.

00:31:27.060 So that, so the argument that, well, women will only be free if they're able. 0.98

00:31:32.880 I wouldn't even, I give up on abortion.

00:31:35.980 I give up.

00:31:37.180 My argument would be, it's not that hard to not get pregnant.

00:31:41.880 It's not.

00:31:43.000 If you're so worried about being graped, get on birth control. 0.75

00:31:50.900 Look.

00:31:51.460 Able to, you know, kill off their own offspring to me is really, that's a really, really off colored. 1.00

00:31:58.880 Well, I guess if you frame it that way, everyone kind of has to agree with you.

00:32:02.040 But when we're talking about abortion, when 99% take place in the first few weeks, when, you know, there's no thalamus, there's no cortex, there's no capacity for consciousness.

00:32:09.900 You and Myron are way better than this, than her.

00:32:14.820 It's because I've done, once you interview a ton of people, and Myron's like, um, he's done way more than me.

00:32:21.080 But I've just interviewed too many people.

00:32:22.840 It sounds like Adam was raised by a single mom and pursued AA at his local college.

00:32:26.780 In the fetus that's developing, saying that that fetus that has no capacity to be conscious or wear anything else, should have the same rights, same bodily autonomy as a woman.

00:32:37.720 That is an obvious.

00:32:38.660 Should, should, should, should.

00:32:41.300 There, look, women are going to kill their kids. 1.00

00:32:43.360 I can't stop it.

00:32:44.240 You guys win.

00:32:45.080 You win.

00:32:46.080 You win.

00:32:46.480 Is that how men feel?

00:32:49.200 Is that how you guys feel?

00:32:50.260 Because it has to disgust you.

00:32:51.880 It disgusts me.

00:32:53.700 Um, for me personally, it just is not that hard to not get pregnant.

00:32:58.320 I don't, I've had boyfriends before, you know, I just don't think it's that difficult to not get pregnant.

00:33:04.600 If you don't want to get pregnant. 0.98

00:33:06.140 I do.

00:33:06.720 I mean, you're, you're making my point for me.

00:33:08.760 You're actually making a point that people who are, you know, born with tremendous disabilities should just be killed because of cognitive functions.

00:33:15.400 I don't remember saying that.

00:33:16.560 When did I say that?

00:33:17.740 The best argument, which again, this is sidetracked.

00:33:20.380 You're saying that I say everyone should kill people with disabilities.

00:33:22.600 Well, I'm saying that if you're saying, no, I am saying that if you're saying that it's cognitive ability and at what stage you think.

00:33:27.240 The ability to be conscious and just, just so we're clear, disabled people are conscious.

00:33:30.560 They're, they're aware.

00:33:31.360 Okay.

00:33:31.860 Um, so the best argument that it is a life is the fact that you have to kill it.

00:33:35.460 You have to have a procedure to kill it.

00:33:36.740 Right?

00:33:36.960 So you have to intervene on the development.

00:33:38.620 There's living human cells in it, but it's not conscious.

00:33:40.220 You called it a developing life.

00:33:42.340 Sure.

00:33:42.620 If you have to go into your body and murder it, then it's.

00:33:44.980 You're disputing that there's living human cells in a field.

00:33:46.860 Again, so we can, we can just tack that off because we just have a fundamental disagreement on whether you're not a child is a life.

00:33:52.240 Sure, then we can talk about paid maternity leave. 1.00

00:33:53.140 People have been talking.

00:33:55.840 Do you know what I would say?

00:33:58.840 Men are dying in the middle of Alaska on crab fishing boats.

00:34:05.260 Candace, I'm, I could, they should have had me on this.

00:34:08.940 I could argue this so much better.

00:34:11.780 Um, crab fishing boats in Alaska.

00:34:17.860 Men die to give us crab.

00:34:20.660 And we're complaining because women don't get maternity leave. 1.00

00:34:27.360 Logging.

00:34:27.880 So we can sit on this chair right now.

00:34:32.440 Yeah.

00:34:32.720 You're saying Jessica don't murder babies. 1.00

00:34:34.720 Look, I agree with you, Jessica, but.

00:34:39.760 I got to move on.

00:34:40.820 I got to look at when it comes to changing hearts and minds of women on that topic, I think that's a lost cause. 1.00

00:34:53.000 I've explained this.

00:34:54.260 You guys win.

00:34:54.940 I mean, you do.

00:35:00.040 I wish you guys would stop murdering your kids, but I, do you think I can stop you?

00:35:06.500 I mean, I don't even think Jesus could stop these women from murdering their children. 1.00

00:35:14.200 A lot about whether you have to be a mother, you have to work.

00:35:16.700 A lot of women have to pick one or the other, because in many cases, if you want to have a child. 1.00

00:35:21.100 And Candace is picking one or the other. 0.72

00:35:23.360 She is.

00:35:25.300 Her focus is on her career.

00:35:27.720 And I'm not saying it shouldn't be.

00:35:31.600 But, you know, let's just call this what it is.

00:35:34.060 Well, there's a big gap in your resume.

00:35:35.380 So getting a job after that might be super difficult.

00:35:37.480 And then secondly, even in the process of having that child, being pregnant, especially in the third trimester, and then raising the child where the, you know, the vast majority of the burden typically is on the mother.

00:35:46.920 The workplace and our system of our economy is not tailored to make that easy for them.

00:35:52.660 I actually totally agree with you.

00:35:54.320 And this is this gets you maternity leave. 0.85

00:35:55.640 Do you agree?

00:35:56.060 I don't know.

00:35:56.720 Actually, I'm agreeing with you that this pressure that you're describing exists for women. 0.63

00:36:00.300 And I'm saying that it exists for women because of the feminists that came before who argued for women to enter the workplace. 0.86

00:36:05.880 So what you're saying is the solution didn't work and it actually produced more problems.

00:36:10.800 And now we have more problems and we need more governance to be able to tackle these problems.

00:36:15.440 So, yeah, see, she entered into his frame.

00:36:17.540 Um, I would reject that that's even a problem.

00:36:20.980 Look at you have the right to not get pregnant like the men. 0.99

00:36:25.100 Um, that's what I would say.

00:36:28.320 I would say, look, women have the right to not get pregnant, just like men do. 0.99

00:36:34.900 You can get on birth control and not get pregnant. 0.92

00:36:37.260 Abortion is legal. 0.99

00:36:38.380 I'm not going to go back and forth with you about my opinions on it because it is legal.

00:36:42.420 So if you make a choice to have a child, which you don't have to make, that is the trade-off that comes with it.

00:36:50.960 You're not entitled to maternity leave. 1.00

00:36:53.840 Um, there are men that are on crab fishing boats in Alaska that would love to be home with their kids, but they can't.

00:37:01.840 Um, and those are men that risk their lives where one guy in the boat dies every, like, every ship.

00:37:10.500 Um, anyways, yeah, it's a lost cause.

00:37:15.860 We need to move on.

00:37:17.480 Yeah, we do.

00:37:18.820 Yeah.

00:37:19.220 Any system that's forcing women to make certain decisions, I just wouldn't call that feminism to begin with. 1.00

00:37:24.440 Women should have the option to choose, do I want to be a stay-at-home mom? 1.00

00:37:27.240 Do I want to work?

00:37:27.840 Do I have some mix of both?

00:37:29.200 Right.

00:37:29.400 That's the entire point here.

00:37:30.280 But you are also making an argument that if you are a woman who does run a business and does have employees,

00:37:34.800 that they should be forced to pay that maternity leave. 0.63

00:37:37.980 Uh, sure, yeah.

00:37:38.780 Okay, so under, let me take. 0.95

00:37:40.120 It's just like saying taxes are forced.

00:37:41.160 Yeah, there's certain things the government does to regulate our economy to ensure equality and justice and better outcomes.

00:37:45.720 Okay, but just so you know, when you do that, like, to a small business owner.

00:37:49.400 Like every other developed country does.

00:37:50.640 So what you, what you are arguing for is supporting big corporations and taking up the little guys because.

00:37:55.780 I'm arguing for supporting people that want to be mothers and also work at the same time.

00:37:58.880 Right, I under.

00:37:59.400 The mechanism we do that with, it can be subsidies, taxes.

00:38:01.620 You guys can't just keep this, you can't say that we can't have the economic, we can't get down to the economics of what it actually implies, right?

00:38:07.940 I have an economics degree and I can tell you if there's a small business that.

00:38:10.540 God, help us.

00:38:12.200 You have an economics degree?

00:38:15.500 Oh my God.

00:38:17.420 Oh, what are they teaching these same man, but that's a woman in schools. 1.00

00:38:30.060 Oh, I can't afford to pay maternity leave. 0.92

00:38:32.060 The government might probably subsidize them and help cover the costs.

00:38:34.660 Like I first saw you getting the business on trigonometry right after they tongue blasted.

00:38:40.480 They tongue blasted.

00:38:42.020 Sam Harris is lying ass without an apology.

00:38:44.040 Yeah, trigonometry is on my dead to me list in the most respectful way.

00:38:57.060 I have a, I have a shit list forever.

00:39:01.820 And maybe one day, maybe one day I'll go through it with you guys.

00:39:07.380 I'll give you, I'll give you my side of things.

00:39:14.040 But you know, then you bring up the pat, I'm like a woman, you just got to move on.

00:39:21.060 But they are on my shit list forever.

00:39:23.100 They're one of them.

00:39:24.260 Where's the government getting money from?

00:39:25.720 This is like, this is tax revenue.

00:39:26.920 I mean, right, exactly.

00:39:28.060 So from us, so from us, just to be clear from us.

00:39:30.600 And this is the thing that gets me about all of these debates.

00:39:33.080 The magic solution that everybody has is that we just need to tax the government more.

00:39:36.460 Every other developed country has paid maternity leave. 0.90

00:39:38.220 But it's not magic as in like the money is coming from you.

00:39:41.820 It's coming from us.

00:39:42.620 So you're sitting here saying, yes, we should be raising taxes.

00:39:46.380 Okay, and this is the entire, this is the entire problem is that the government is already taxing

00:39:50.780 homes times two.

00:39:51.680 And people are already struggling with what's being taken out of their taxes.

00:39:54.560 We're not taxing capital gains properly or corporate profits properly or high income

00:39:58.180 properly.

00:39:58.540 There's a reason that we should be taxing more here, there.

00:40:01.200 It's an efficiency problem.

00:40:02.420 Don't you guys want like family?

00:40:03.640 What do you, my, my question would be like, what do you know about taxes?

00:40:06.740 You got some degree.

00:40:07.900 Like, I even, like, I wouldn't even go down that like rabbit hole.

00:40:25.780 These are having to bring in more revenue to help women be mothers. 1.00

00:40:28.800 What I'm saying is that you are just creating a cyclical argument.

00:40:31.380 You're basically saying that women want to be able to have it all. 0.99

00:40:34.180 Women cannot have it all because the government choice to do what they'd like. 1.00

00:40:37.120 Okay, but you're saying women can have it all when they outsource it to babysitters and 1.00

00:40:42.140 nannies.

00:40:43.640 Yep.

00:40:44.740 And a daycare.

00:40:46.860 So.

00:40:47.300 And women should be, have the choice to have it all. 1.00

00:40:49.460 Okay.

00:40:49.920 So you're saying.

00:40:50.380 That's a really interesting way of putting like what you're, do you have it all right

00:40:53.200 now where you're working and you're also a mother? 1.00

00:40:55.120 Is that having it all?

00:40:55.980 I'm saying that it's not possible.

00:41:01.820 Yeah, she does.

00:41:04.880 I bet she'll run for office someday. 1.00

00:41:06.660 God help.

00:41:07.120 God help us.

00:41:09.440 God help us.

00:41:13.140 So for women to have it all, it is impossible. 1.00

00:41:14.780 Okay.

00:41:14.900 What do you have?

00:41:15.440 And that's one of the.

00:41:16.020 Whatever that is, is what I would want other women to have as well, which is the flexibility. 1.00

00:41:19.780 Right.

00:41:20.040 So you work a job and also raise kids if they'd like.

00:41:22.440 No, but that, but that's exactly.

00:41:24.180 You guys keep arguing that what people want is more flexibility.

00:41:26.500 So you're acknowledging that right now under with feminism on fire, we are agreeing.

00:41:31.840 Women are going into the workforce. 0.81

00:41:33.360 Like I'm just kind of using a hyperbolic expression.

00:41:35.680 Like feminism is everywhere. 1.00

00:41:37.180 We are arguing that women need to have more opportunities. 0.62

00:41:40.020 Women need to have more rights. 1.00

00:41:41.080 They've taken that.

00:41:41.900 Now you have.

00:41:42.340 So feminism won. 1.00

00:41:43.680 So what now?

00:41:46.440 They won.

00:41:48.420 It's going to get worse.

00:41:49.540 Not better.

00:41:52.440 Unfortunately.

00:41:53.540 Yeah.

00:41:53.800 The majority of people that are graduating with college degrees are, in fact, women. 0.99

00:41:58.060 Men are committing suicide at a higher rate than women.

00:42:00.120 We're looking around the world.

00:42:01.100 Feminism also would push for like increased awareness of men's mental health. 1.00

00:42:04.020 That's fine.

00:42:04.860 Great.

00:42:05.180 You love feminism. 1.00

00:42:05.920 That's great.

00:42:06.260 We already know that.

00:42:06.900 We get it.

00:42:07.220 Most Americans agree with me, by the way.

00:42:08.880 Actually, I think culture is changing.

00:42:11.260 If you go issue by issue and by values, they might not associate with the term feminism 0.90

00:42:15.360 because people like you have made it toxic.

00:42:16.980 The next thing is that you will move the goalposts and then when they begin taxing so that we

00:42:23.400 can account for paid maternity leave for three months, which basically means a small 0.99

00:42:26.960 business owner has to not have an employee while having to pay months and months and

00:42:31.560 months.

00:42:31.960 Like the person's not there.

00:42:33.280 They're not actually.

00:42:33.780 Small business doesn't have the revenue to cover paid maternity leave. 1.00

00:42:36.180 The government would probably subsidize them to make up the cost.

00:42:38.200 No, I actually think that the way things were made more sense, where we had an environment

00:42:42.780 where you could afford to take care of children with just one person bringing in income in

00:42:48.520 the house.

00:42:49.140 Is that possible in the current environment?

00:42:50.860 You can obviously.

00:42:51.780 When things are going to get way more expensive with these tariffs as well.

00:42:53.900 Like it's not going to be easy to afford anything in the coming years.

00:42:56.080 Is it going to happen overnight?

00:42:57.840 No.

00:42:58.160 But I think we need to be realistic about the fact.

00:43:00.240 Kids aren't as expensive.

00:43:01.920 I would probably prep for that question, but I would have numbers written out about how

00:43:08.260 much kids cost if you take out the expense of things that women's taste is, you know, 1.00

00:43:14.560 it's living in these overpriced houses.

00:43:17.020 It's going to these expensive schools.

00:43:19.840 Um, it's a lot of the costs are just stuff women want, but I don't really care. 1.00

00:43:28.660 Like don't have a kid then.

00:43:30.520 At that, the first thing didn't work, right?

00:43:32.260 The entire argument, the first thing was women entering the workforce is going to make 1.00

00:43:36.220 everybody happier and richer.

00:43:37.260 That was the best idea is that women having the choice to enter the workforce is better 1.00

00:43:40.800 than them being forced to not do that.

00:43:42.360 Okay.

00:43:42.660 That's the argument.

00:43:43.320 Okay.

00:43:43.540 That actually is not the argument at all.

00:43:45.360 The argument was that women would become, and I'm talking about what the feminists got 1.00

00:43:49.080 ahead of, and this is why women, women need to be like men. 0.88

00:43:50.260 You can debate like this imaginary Twitter feminist, but like right now you're talking

00:43:53.060 to me and that's not the argument.

00:43:54.040 I'm not actually debating an imaginary Twitter feminist.

00:43:56.280 I'm speaking to you and I have no idea why you're becoming increasingly more rude when

00:44:00.040 I'm just rebutting your points that you're bringing up.

00:44:01.360 No, you're not responding to my point.

00:44:02.660 I am responding to your point.

00:44:04.040 I'm saying that you're creating a cyclical argument where you keep saying that the thing that

00:44:07.220 you just did, that you said was going to be enough.

00:44:09.480 Right.

00:44:09.860 What we actually need is for women to just enter the workforce. 1.00

00:44:11.700 Oh, women are in the workforce and actually we have- 1.00

00:44:12.960 That's not enough.

00:44:13.400 I'm saying we don't have enough because we don't have-

00:44:14.960 Okay, and I'm telling-

00:44:15.960 When is enough?

00:44:16.960 I, you know, I just want to, I would flip this and say, what problem have we not solved

00:44:23.540 for women?

00:44:25.700 You know, women, we have Roombas now, we have dishwashers, we have air fryers, we have access 1.00

00:44:31.220 to abortion, we have birth control. 1.00

00:44:34.980 We have women's shelters. 1.00

00:44:37.240 What more do women want? 1.00

00:44:40.080 When, like, what, what do we need to get through for it to be enough?

00:44:45.360 Where we can say, okay, ladies, like we're happy now.

00:44:48.420 I'm telling you that you're also not going to have enough because you're going to then

00:44:51.620 get, be complaining when you get that paid maternity leave because you're- 1.00

00:44:54.240 I'm not going to get maternity leave. 0.98

00:44:55.240 Okay.

00:44:56.240 Well, they are arguing for family paid leave.

00:44:58.240 So that's even better.

00:44:59.240 Yeah.

00:45:00.240 You might get-

00:45:01.240 Do you think fathers should also be around to help raise children?

00:45:03.240 I think who's going to work if everybody goes home every time a child is born?

00:45:06.480 Not everyone's going to have a kid at the same time.

00:45:08.480 Pause, guys.

00:45:09.480 Pause.

00:45:10.480 All right.

00:45:11.480 Everyone will have a male. 1.00

00:45:12.480 All right.

00:45:13.480 Stay-at-home mom here.

00:45:14.480 You can definitely live on one income, but there are sacrifices you may have to lose.

00:45:17.680 Move to a lower cost of living.

00:45:19.680 State, smaller house, no getting your hails done, your hair done, no eating out, and maybe

00:45:23.480 share a car.

00:45:24.480 Yeah.

00:45:25.480 That's my gut feeling.

00:45:26.480 Is it just people want to go to like events and whatever, and I don't, I just don't, you

00:45:33.480 know what I mean?

00:45:34.480 It's just like, you know, Jesus couldn't save the world.

00:45:42.500 Why on earth would I think I could?

00:45:44.100 You know what I mean?

00:45:45.100 Partner.

00:45:46.100 Nice talking to you.

00:45:47.100 Yeah.

00:45:48.100 Nice talking to you as well.

00:45:49.100 My final claim is that feminism has made things easier for men.

00:45:52.480 Feminism has made things easier for men. 0.94

00:45:57.780 So this is going to show a hole in Candace's argument. 1.00

00:46:00.820 She only sees the top 20% of men.

00:46:03.800 She does not see lower level men.

00:46:07.480 Hi.

00:46:08.480 Hi.

00:46:09.480 I'm Jenny.

00:46:10.480 Nice to meet you.

00:46:11.480 Nice to meet you.

00:46:12.480 You said that feminism is easier for men or is? 1.00

00:46:15.480 It's made things, I think, easier in society for men.

00:46:17.480 Made things easier for men.

00:46:18.480 Yeah.

00:46:19.480 Now men.

00:46:20.480 That is the dumbest thing she's ever said, ever.

00:46:25.480 Men are, you know, committing suicide at higher rates, but more men have committed, died from

00:46:34.320 suicide than all of the world wars combined.

00:46:38.200 But you think that feminism has made things better for men? 0.99

00:46:43.760 Don't have to commit and they're being offered sex from women for free. 0.99

00:46:47.940 So they have to actually effectively do less and be motivated less because feminism has 1.00

00:46:53.400 a kind of.

00:46:54.400 Yeah.

00:46:55.400 But more men got sex in general.

00:46:57.400 Well, I guess it depends.

00:47:00.400 We don't really have set how sex filled the marriages were back then.

00:47:04.400 But before, you know, and this is what I would say, women wanted to be whores. 1.00

00:47:11.400 Men, in all honesty, most of them would probably have married their high school sweetheart and

00:47:18.240 then they get crashed out when she goes and gets someone better from college or the city,

00:47:22.900 whatever.

00:47:23.900 And I think that that has been a net negative for women on good faith.

00:47:29.900 I just want to say, I think you're approaching this with like the best interest for women. 0.97

00:47:34.900 Like you think that is negative for women and harmful. 1.00

00:47:36.900 And I think in some aspects we can agree to that.

00:47:39.900 Yeah.

00:47:40.900 I think that there are some aspects of sex work or only fans or whatnot.

00:47:43.900 Because what Candace is saying is because this is the thing women without like female game. 1.00

00:47:49.900 They're not likable.

00:47:50.900 They're not charming.

00:47:51.900 They see sex as a weapon to get what they want. 1.00

00:47:56.900 Women that are charming can figure out how to get things, get what they want from men, even if they give them sex. 1.00

00:48:04.900 They just provide more value.

00:48:07.900 But what she does is she said, like, let's think about the sex before marriage thing.

00:48:13.900 Okay.

00:48:14.900 You wait till marriage to have sex. 0.95

00:48:16.900 Is marriage this magical thing that's going to make you a nicer, more likable person?

00:48:21.900 So if you have sex before marriage and you're just a nice, likable person, he'll marry you in the long run.

00:48:30.900 If you, you know, you pick someone that's got a chance of monogamy, there's some men that just, they'll never be monogamous.

00:48:36.900 But, you know, women like her have a tendency to see like sex as a weapon to get what they want because they don't have the female charm. 1.00

00:48:48.900 Like Bonnie Blue has. Bonnie Blue has no quality.

00:48:51.900 She'll get married.

00:48:52.900 She will.

00:48:53.900 Promise to God.

00:48:54.900 As we showed.

00:48:56.900 That maybe men are definitely the huge consumers of.

00:49:00.900 But if we are so concerned with women putting that out for free, it's not, it's charged, right? 0.96

00:49:05.900 They're making money off of it.

00:49:06.900 Then why are we not putting the onus more on men for being the one that is in control of that demand, right?

00:49:13.900 So we can take away the supplier, you know, condemn it all we want.

00:49:17.900 But if there's no onus on men to be the consumers of said products, then.

00:49:23.900 Because sex is a need.

00:49:24.900 And I got into this debate with Candace.

00:49:26.900 You know, women don't like corn and it's not because they have any concern for men. 0.96

00:49:31.900 It's because they know that men have a very high sex drive.

00:49:35.900 And anything that takes away our power from beauty makes like they it loses power when men can just open up corn hub. 1.00

00:49:48.900 And wouldn't you think that would solve the issue that you're bringing up?

00:49:51.900 Yeah, I actually agree with you on that.

00:49:53.900 And I really get to that.

00:49:54.900 I want to be very clear.

00:49:55.900 When I say that I'm anti-feminist, this does not mean that I do not also criticize men.

00:50:00.900 I think that's something that people get very wrong.

00:50:02.900 Okay.

00:50:03.900 One thousand percent agree.

00:50:04.900 I believe the problem was seeded by the feminist movement. 1.00

00:50:07.900 I think.

00:50:08.900 Yeah, but women do step one. 1.00

00:50:09.900 They sign up to be corn stars.

00:50:11.900 That's step one.

00:50:13.900 Make the corn.

00:50:15.900 Two, consume the corn.

00:50:17.900 Who's worse, the dealer or the drug consumer?

00:50:20.900 The dealer.

00:50:22.900 The sex revolution and telling women. 1.00

00:50:25.900 I mean, literally.

00:50:26.900 I can't stand it.

00:50:29.900 Candace, come on.

00:50:32.900 You saw what was going on in college.

00:50:34.900 Nobody told women to do anything. 1.00

00:50:36.900 Women want to gluck gluck and be hoes. 1.00

00:50:40.900 Like women want to do that. 1.00

00:50:41.900 We're protesting.

00:50:42.900 They didn't have their shirts on.

00:50:43.900 And this used to be just your grandparents couldn't even imagine this.

00:50:46.900 Like women walking down the street and having their boobs out and their butts out and Instagram. 1.00

00:50:50.900 And it created an environment where men then had to work harder for a woman's affection,

00:50:56.900 for a woman to take her clothes off, sex education in the classroom. 1.00

00:51:00.900 There's this huge myth that.

00:51:01.900 The only men women make work are men they don't want. 1.00

00:51:04.900 Women do not make men wait that they like and want to be with. 1.00

00:51:09.900 They don't.

00:51:10.900 They're not special women that are different or whatever.

00:51:14.900 Women that make you wait don't like you that much. 1.00

00:51:20.900 They don't.

00:51:22.900 People were just doing it.

00:51:23.900 Like, you know, oh, we might as well teach them because the children are just doing it.

00:51:26.900 Actually, before they introduce sex education, the majority of high school graduates were graduating with their virginity intact.

00:51:32.900 Right.

00:51:33.900 Yeah, that's what the girls are going to say when sex is a prerequisite for marriage. 1.00

00:51:45.900 Right.

00:51:46.900 And then within 10 years of sex education, we saw a reversal.

00:51:50.900 So I'm saying feminist feminism actually seeded the problem. 1.00

00:51:52.900 And now the problem is bad.

00:51:53.900 And it's.

00:51:54.900 In 1991, 50% of high school schoolers reported having sex.

00:52:01.900 That number decreased to 30% in 2021.

00:52:04.900 Yeah, it's going down because women are sharing the men. 1.00

00:52:07.900 And you got fat women that just aren't participating. 1.00

00:52:11.900 It's also bad for men.

00:52:12.900 It's harmful for men to be constantly exposed to pornography and soft pornography.

00:52:16.900 And I think it actually in many ways emasculates men.

00:52:20.900 Okay.

00:52:21.900 But I would say they are the main social benefactors of that culture because, well, first and foremost, as we're talking about women who have to kind of pick one or the other or try to manage both. 0.88

00:52:33.900 And can we have it all?

00:52:34.900 Like, no, you can't have it all.

00:52:36.900 On a day where I really feel like.

00:52:38.900 I don't see why you can't have it all, to be honest.

00:52:41.900 I don't think you can be like a CEO, but you're just not going to convince me.

00:52:46.900 And can the housewives on this app.

00:52:49.900 Maybe there's someone in the comments who said, like, she's a housewife. 0.99

00:52:52.900 Can you?

00:52:53.900 Maybe you can't do super intense meals.

00:52:57.900 But I cook.

00:52:58.900 All right.

00:52:59.900 You know.

00:53:00.900 And if I wanted to, I could wake up in the morning.

00:53:05.900 You put bacon in the oven, 400 degrees.

00:53:08.900 It's like 10, I think 15 minutes.

00:53:10.900 You put that in the oven.

00:53:12.900 You hard boil some eggs or you could scramble.

00:53:15.900 That's even faster.

00:53:16.900 I think that would all take.

00:53:20.900 And you put some toast in the oven.

00:53:22.900 Okay.

00:53:23.900 You got breakfast.

00:53:24.900 That takes like 20 minutes.

00:53:28.900 Let's say 30 minutes.

00:53:29.900 You throw them in the dishwasher.

00:53:31.900 That doesn't really take that long.

00:53:32.900 You rinse, throw in the dishwasher.

00:53:34.900 Okay.

00:53:35.900 Then after you make peanut butter and jelly, apples, and granola bars.

00:53:42.900 I'm just walking through this.

00:53:44.900 Okay.

00:53:45.900 Let's say you have a big family and it's for four kids.

00:53:49.900 And you could be a teacher.

00:53:50.900 You can take your kids to, you could drop your kids off at school at like seven or eight.

00:53:56.900 And then go.

00:53:57.900 And also in the morning, you can do a crock pot.

00:54:02.900 And you can put some baby back ribs, you know, and then I could just make like a big thing of rice for the week. 0.68

00:54:09.900 So can you get reheated rice, but does anyone going to die from reheated rice?

00:54:21.900 Or you can make pasta real quick with it.

00:54:23.900 You can put chicken in the, um, I mean the vegetables, you can make mushrooms.

00:54:29.900 That doesn't, asparagus.

00:54:39.900 Protein bars instead of granola bar.

00:54:41.900 Like, and I think if I do the calories on that, that's not, I mean, you could do turkey and cheese for like, look, I'm not saying it's like a gourmet meal, but you could even on Fridays or Saturdays do a more intense meal.

00:54:54.900 Maybe you put dinner at like seven.

00:55:03.900 Rice cookers are easy.

00:55:04.900 Yeah.

00:55:05.900 Do you know, or let's say you, you forget to do the crock pot in the morning.

00:55:10.900 Um, okay.

00:55:11.900 Let me think of a healthy, you could do steaks. 0.70

00:55:14.900 Steaks.

00:55:15.900 Don't take long at all.

00:55:16.900 Asparagus steaks and rice.

00:55:21.900 Am I missing something?

00:55:23.900 Yeah.

00:55:24.900 Now I know everyone's like, well, what about cleaning?

00:55:26.900 Well, I mean, wouldn't you want a smaller house then?

00:55:32.900 Then the women are, I really don't like, okay. 1.00

00:55:36.900 If the house is a little dirty, I'm not saying like disgusting, but is it really going to be, you have weekends.

00:55:42.900 Like if you work a teaching job, let's say, or nine to five, you'd probably have to figure out because the kids get off at three.

00:55:49.900 So the two hour window you'd have to figure out.

00:55:51.900 But if you could find someone to take the kids home from school.

00:55:55.900 That's like trustworthy.

00:55:56.900 Um, I think that would be the, that would be the one thing is the three to five.

00:56:07.900 But yeah.

00:56:08.900 Cause yeah.

00:56:09.900 Cause like I could see if you have like a really big house, that would be hard to keep clean.

00:56:14.900 But like, I personally, I grew up in a really big house and I I've never wanted a big house because I'm just not a need enough person.

00:56:24.900 I mean, they even have like meals you can put in the microwave now.

00:56:28.900 So.

00:56:32.900 I don't know.

00:56:33.900 Like at time, there are times when I think that a lot of these child, what now let's say most women have two kids tops. 1.00

00:56:43.900 So I'm thinking like, let's say you have four.

00:56:46.900 Now I could see you have to spend a decade, like probably raising said, imagine the kids under three.

00:56:53.900 Um, like you can't, you're not putting them in school yet.

00:56:56.900 When do kids go to school?

00:56:57.900 Four.

00:56:58.900 I think it's four or five.

00:57:03.900 So yeah, when the kids are young, but that's like, okay, let's say up to five or six, the rest of it.

00:57:10.900 Like, so if you have a lot of kids, you're going to have that period when the kids young, but, and I don't know.

00:57:18.900 I don't watch a lot of like, I haven't watched a baby in a while.

00:57:24.900 Nobody's having kids, you know, but like, I'm just asking the question, even like a market, like, let's say you worked from home and did something like not, not a full time, but like even part time.

00:57:39.900 You can't.

00:57:40.900 Yep.

00:57:41.900 Four to five.

00:57:42.900 Now I know you guys are thinking, and I had this thought, like, you know, it's better for the kids if they're homeschooled.

00:57:48.900 And I really thought about this and I'm like, most moms are crazy.

00:57:52.900 That sounds like torture.

00:57:54.900 That really sounds like torture to me.

00:57:58.900 Preschool is for, and then I don't know.

00:58:04.900 There's pros and cons.

00:58:05.900 I'm not against homeschooling, but I personally, I would have to think about the drawbacks of being like different than all the other kids.

00:58:15.900 Like, I just would wonder if you would be as socially adjusted.

00:58:28.900 But I'm not.

00:58:29.900 She says she's clueless.

00:58:30.900 Okay.

00:58:31.900 What am I clueless about?

00:58:34.900 I mean, um, I, the other woman in the chat saying four or five, that's when they go to preschool.

00:58:45.900 Now, I, again, I could see when the babies are young and you know, like my grandma had 13 kids.

00:58:51.900 So obviously she's not going to go work, but you're having one to two.

00:58:57.900 Yeah, homeschooling is the only way forward.

00:59:07.900 Well, that's not true.

00:59:09.900 I know a lot of kids that turned out fine in public school.

00:59:18.900 I'm again, I'm not, I'm not against it.

00:59:20.900 I look at either way is fine, but I'm saying the average woman is putting their kids in school. 1.00

00:59:24.900 The average woman is not homeschooling.

00:59:26.900 So that's an exception.

00:59:27.900 That's not the rule.

00:59:28.900 I knew like two people that were homeschooled, two families.

00:59:37.900 So that's not, that's not what they're doing.

00:59:39.900 Right?

00:59:44.900 Anyways, like, yeah, put, can the housewives in the chat? 1.00

00:59:53.900 I'm just telling me, up to what age, like the kids are, I would say like up to like three

01:00:00.900 or four, they're like a lot and then they get easier.

01:00:03.900 Cause I like, I don't know, my grandma told me at like seven or six, the kids start working

01:00:07.900 on the farm, you know?

01:00:10.900 you know so anyways

01:00:17.380 no i i'm not i'm not for like the daycare whatever but

01:00:23.320 i mean you could even get a different job but you guys see what you guys do you see where i'm going

01:00:32.420 with this if she was a teacher she could get off at the same time the kids get off 0.99

01:00:36.900 i gave a little bit more to my career i ache because i'm i go okay but like now i feel like

01:00:42.400 i gave didn't give the same amount to my children um and it's a constant push and pull and it never

01:00:48.160 feels enough it really doesn't feel enough so like to a degree i think that feminism does benefit men 1.00

01:00:54.880 i think that it allows men to be more emotionally intelligent allows them to understand what that

01:00:59.320 looks like i homeschooled two sons back in 1990 the schools today are so whacked okay yeah look i'm not

01:01:06.180 against either i'm just saying most women aren't doing that they're not so most women are having 0.94

01:01:12.220 one kid they're having one two tops and also be able to connect with other people right but at the

01:01:19.420 same time there's so much work that feminism has done for women that to say that it benefits men 1.00

01:01:24.860 more i don't think is an accurate statement for example title nine has made it very yeah it does not

01:01:30.760 made men's lives easier i mean men don't have the right to their children in the womb outside of the 1.00

01:01:38.560 womb um men now get old wives whores that's what they're picking for wives very possible for women 1.00

01:01:47.500 to go to college 600 more so right and i think that that is a huge benefit that we can credit to the

01:01:53.320 feminist movement though i understand your point though of trying to say that like sex work is harmful 0.99

01:01:58.360 for women and more beneficial for men because they're benefiting from it the most but at the

01:02:04.100 same time if you think they're also suffering from it does that not contradict your point yeah so

01:02:09.400 i'd actually almost like to homeschool because sometimes i feel like i can't read that well

01:02:13.920 and if i you know and they say you when you teach you like learn better so maybe i'd like

01:02:21.340 i don't know i'll cross that bridge when i get there i disagree on the fact that and we do agree

01:02:29.320 that more women are going to college more actually more women than men are graduating with college

01:02:34.000 degrees and despite that people are saying that we still live under a patriarchy women are free to 0.99

01:02:38.140 start their own companies women are free to pay women whatever they want to pay women could hire 0.95

01:02:42.160 and in some cases do hire all women and so i don't i don't from that goes terrible terrible idea

01:02:49.060 really understand which wasn't your argument to be fair the idea that even with all of that freedom

01:02:54.920 women are still not able to achieve what men are able to achieve i think college education actually 0.89

01:03:01.000 has increased women's stress and i'm talking about in terms of how expensive it is and i know you're 1.00

01:03:06.720 gonna then say well i don't care that's what i would say i don't really care that it increased

01:03:12.060 women's stress life is hard who cares mission to that as we have to then move the goalpost and 1.00

01:03:18.960 i'm guessing here but like college should be free everything should be free he thinks well i

01:03:24.000 think you know we just need more free stuff and obviously nothing's free we're talking we're just

01:03:27.200 going to tax us if i could interject i just want to say i think the the issue that we keep coming

01:03:32.340 back to is that you believe that women would be happiest in the home where they don't have to 0.99

01:03:36.740 work and i think most people in general probably wouldn't like want to work anyways but i think

01:03:41.680 the main issue that we keep avoiding is that this is not an issue created by feminism women want to 0.98

01:03:47.380 work just in case it doesn't work out okay look at that's that's how women feel just in case 1.00

01:03:53.460 you're a beta just in case she finds someone better or hotter so yeah this is an issue created

01:04:00.500 by capitalism yeah so i've heard this argument my wife had time to successfully keep a two-year 0.99

01:04:06.560 affair while keeping the house it's an issue created by capitalism but you don't agree you think

01:04:11.580 feminism is the greater issue than i think that now the issue money to live well we have to spend 1.00

01:04:18.460 more money to live right i think in large part because feminists got duped by the government and 1.00

01:04:23.340 i think we're okay we just keep further enslaving ourselves to the government i i'm not a person who

01:04:27.640 believes in big government and you find that feminists are constantly like well we can deal with 1.00

01:04:32.440 the college issue we just need more government we can deal with the you know needing to have more

01:04:36.880 benefits we just need more government so it's like okay let's just tax every household 100 percent

01:04:40.920 and i'm trying to prevent that and i'm saying that there was a time in america and what's aspirational

01:04:45.820 for me is i was uh you know raised in part by my grandparents they were very happy they were just

01:04:50.820 i lived in that environment of what that looked like and i think okay for many of people who didn't

01:04:56.000 grow up there feminism has taught us and i say this as someone who had to take feminism 101 courses

01:05:01.060 when i was in college that it was like this nightmare and people weren't happy and people were

01:05:05.980 suffering and women were just were suffering people you know were being forced and that there 0.92

01:05:09.780 weren't actually these things that just marriages that worked that the women actually weren't 1.00

01:05:15.360 disempowered by being the ceos of their house allowing women to have more choice and freedom 0.92

01:05:20.680 to leave sorry you've been voted out by the majority i did enjoy this conversation very respectful

01:05:26.180 she was uh see that girl came off as more feminine she did it's probably i would put her at like a six 1.00

01:05:35.840 the last girl

01:05:36.660 i was thinking that a lot of your claim seven seven it's a very contradictory saying that we live in a

01:05:47.880 matriarchy that men benefit from feminism you know what i'm gonna say six but she's young seven 1.00

01:05:52.580 more i would like to understand why again you think that men benefit from feminism more 0.98

01:05:58.440 um basically because men don't have to commit to women men are still able to do what they're doing

01:06:07.560 and they have they are allowed to basically step away from all of the responsibilities of what it

01:06:13.360 really meant to be a man and lead a household another tradcon feminist telling you what you need 0.96

01:06:19.760 to do to be a man and that's in large part i think due to the sexual revolution i mean

01:06:26.700 is it really bad that we don't have to give men the chase is it more men want wives than women want

01:06:33.760 to be wives women don't want to be married women don't want to be in long-term relationships don't 1.00

01:06:39.220 they have gratification from chasing us like it's a hunter versus prey situation to me so i feel like a

01:06:45.940 lot of relationships especially back then were based on trying to get to home run like very fast

01:06:50.800 and now that we have the freedom to not commit and not tie ourselves to one man for the rest of our

01:06:57.180 life um i just don't necessarily think that's bad i just don't think the revolution has decreased our

01:07:03.160 value we're not chewed gum for people who value connection and sex doesn't always have to have

01:07:10.560 this deep meaning it is just connection and intimacy between two people who trust each other

01:07:16.160 and why do we have to deny women that gratification like men you say that are wired to want that

01:07:24.400 why not women why women want it more than men women are the ones that fought to be whores not men 0.87

01:07:30.720 uh well we have we again i go back to just our basic biological differences there was a really

01:07:37.180 interesting book that was done by a biophysicist he i think recently passed away named edward o wilson

01:07:44.000 where he just sort of breaks down the biological arguments basically he looks in the wild to see

01:07:50.160 the behavior of animals his thesis is just that you can never you basically can never beat your own

01:07:54.980 biology and then he kind of compares it to what we see here as just humans and our social interactions

01:08:00.520 and things that have been abundantly clear when you look at every civilization over time whether

01:08:06.260 it's from you know 400 bc to la today what are these habits that you can see that never go away

01:08:13.740 and people coming together and starting families is one of these things because we are biologically

01:08:20.160 wired to find yeah but it was usually one guy just going around impregnating a lot of women

01:08:28.120 then we're like oh we can't have that because these other men are going to get mad so let's do

01:08:33.060 monogamy and the women are like no i can't be with an average guy i can't find a family to settle 1.00

01:08:40.240 down and to have children and i think when you have women that are going out and they're giving

01:08:45.520 all of the goods up for free the goods the goods i'm not gonna say yeah women hate whores because 1.00

01:08:52.960 it lowers it raises the price of commitment because the guy's way less likely to like give

01:08:59.160 you commitment if you can just go bang a whore the goods up for free men are not the goods for free 1.00

01:09:06.460 from men and that we are very actually you can certainly do that women do want it for free

01:09:10.900 and there's connections we're not sockeye salmon we're not made to breed and have families and

01:09:16.060 then die you are welcome to that i'm just saying that when it comes time for you to find a partner

01:09:20.520 you may find yourself in a circumstance where men don't value you as high because men men like like

01:09:25.120 like you spoke to men like to compete they like to feel like they've won something i'd like to

01:09:28.840 deprive men of that no she'll still find somebody as long as she does it before 30 too she'll be fine 0.99

01:09:38.940 american women are fat thin women have a lot of power beauty gets you on the date eventually there's 1.00

01:09:46.000 a taker because they don't need to have that that's actually like that's actually but you but

01:09:53.060 you did bring up you did bring yeah yeah and that's what you say that men are you know essentially

01:09:58.000 predatory and we have the goods that we have to meet like keep from them oh i didn't mean the goods

01:10:02.380 in a bad way um but that's such an objectifying way the goods what the grocery good honestly i think i

01:10:07.640 think that that's just kind of you don't have value colloquial songs today i think we have value

01:10:13.140 apart from how many people we sleep with how many like you also devalue yeah and i actually understand

01:10:19.740 what she's saying being likable is way more important

01:10:22.080 men if you get over their attraction floor well i'll tell you a couple things one it's

01:10:30.040 most men don't have the access or the tools to really find out about a woman's past and it's easier 0.89

01:10:39.860 to like get away with it i'll say that's one two um and most men don't have the time to like go

01:10:48.680 through all this stuff number two um

01:10:51.680 most men um

01:10:55.680 i should put this

01:11:02.240 most men once they have you in a rotation or whatever like the guys that are getting laid

01:11:08.620 and women want for more long-term commitment they're gonna pick the girl that would be the 1.00

01:11:13.800 best mother and is the most pleasant to be around over purity if you're a virgin or you've slept with 0.99

01:11:21.540 one guy or two guys but you're a bitch it doesn't matter it doesn't um thanks robert i i love it when 0.99

01:11:30.060 you guys super new education for women and i think that's very interesting because you're also a very

01:11:35.160 educated woman and you in a lot of ways this is just like an observation you do that you devalue 0.75

01:11:41.200 yourself a lot i definitely do not feel like i'm devaluing myself make him a sandwich yeah

01:11:46.420 yes which is the title of my

01:11:49.780 it's not that hard to make a sandwich it's really not

01:11:55.560 like that's it

01:12:00.260 all we got to do

01:12:03.140 we need to raise the bar yes feed your men and everything feed the people that you love

01:12:09.780 because family isn't defined just by your partner or your kids family's community and you should

01:12:15.160 care about your community and understanding that i just don't think you really care about the

01:12:20.480 community that much when you're pushing this rhetoric of devaluing women so much to stay in

01:12:25.160 the kitchen stay within well it's valuable to who um if you want to look at who's valuable to women

01:12:29.580 it's women um that break the slut barrier and you know basically when women 1.00

01:12:35.680 act worse it makes it easier to get away with stuff so that's what's valuable to women what's 1.00

01:12:41.740 valuable to men is um likable pretty not a whore pretty much it oh sorry yeah then the cooking that 1.00

01:12:50.460 whatever that guy wants but really those three things it starts with the homes and also saying

01:12:56.140 that they're wasting money on college when education is very important there's a lot of

01:13:00.480 female scientists pause you've been voted out 1.00

01:13:03.040 there's so much that i would say

01:13:03.440 oh sorry you've been voted out

01:13:06.080 thank you hello hi how are you what's your name i'm zella stone very nice to meet you zella

01:13:16.480 you have very pretty eyes thank you why would she

01:13:19.480 oh she's she's actually pretty why would you get a face tattoo 0.98

01:13:29.120 okay oh um so you keep talking about only fans and kim kardashian and um well i do only fans

01:13:42.960 okay and i'm a stripper as well god help us that's what i would say oh don't

01:13:49.140 oh my god i have to argue with a stripper today that's what i would say she's gonna be polite and 1.00

01:13:54.780 be like i just why do we care what a stripper has to say i would say production next next we never 0.99

01:14:07.520 used to take opinions from the bottom ring of society next next

01:14:14.280 so you're in the sex industry um well i'm mainly a recording artist but i do that to fund the music

01:14:24.140 okay but you know you're saying basically that we kind of like devalue ourselves

01:14:29.780 but at the same time i'm celibate i still consider myself a woman of god and so

01:14:36.480 i would just say next um producers can we please move on to the next person um because i just can't

01:14:48.340 deal with this you know not all of us are just out there just oh hey showing the goods oh my god

01:14:56.180 your job is to be hot and you have this gut you know like we do respect our bodies still

01:15:02.480 so i don't like that you kind of putting us all in one box yes so we have to in order to have

01:15:08.200 debates we have to make generalizations of course there can be some exceptions to the rule but what

01:15:12.460 i'm trying to understand is how can you say that you're not you know giving up your body if you are

01:15:19.120 a stripper well because i said i'm celibate i still want to get married i still want to have kids

01:15:24.420 and first she will get married and have kids someone will do it 1.00

01:15:27.700 some of us it's hard for us to have kids and i've also dealt with sexual abuse since a child

01:15:34.240 i doubt it oh you know so i wasn't doing any sexual work as a child you know and still went through

01:15:41.840 things like that so so i first want to say perfectly sympathetic to everything you're saying especially

01:15:48.220 i first want to say i don't believe anything you're saying but i guess i'll go with it

01:15:54.720 they couldn't handle me in one of these debates if you come from an environment where you've lived

01:16:02.400 through something when you're a kid it makes it infinitely harder and it's actually a reason why

01:16:06.060 so many people turn to sex work because they i don't think it's an excuse at all

01:16:09.960 i know men from war-torn countries and they decided to get a job don't have that structure

01:16:21.520 um at home that gives them i think other options but would you agree with me that if you could

01:16:27.440 like that wouldn't happen i went to college for music production for music production i went to

01:16:32.000 la recording school okay so did you decide to be a stripper because of economic restraint or because 0.91

01:16:36.320 of freedom for freedom you know we want the choice to do whatever we want with our bodies

01:16:42.540 yeah money gives you freedom yeah okay okay you know um i don't think it matters

01:16:48.840 if you do want to dress how you want to dress that doesn't mean oh you can you know sexually

01:16:55.500 abuse or sexually harass do you think men that are being brought into the strip clubs to watch you

01:17:01.740 do you think that they're walking away and going i did that because that woman was empowered to take 1.00

01:17:05.200 off her clothes or do you think that they're actually deep she's providing more of a service 1.00

01:17:09.780 because she's actually giving her youth to men and prudes don't 1.00

01:17:15.440 valuing women no i get it i used to be that hypocrite you know i said things that i said i

01:17:22.460 would never do anything like that you know like i totally get that but some people just want to go

01:17:27.240 to the club and have a good time yeah i think most of the people who are making those decisions are

01:17:31.480 doing it because they have they're dealing with addictions themselves i think you're worth more than

01:17:35.880 taking your clothes off i think that if you wanted to have a career in music you wouldn't have to take

01:17:41.160 your clothes off to do that and i think that it's sad yeah i would just say um you're just probably

01:17:46.400 not talented enough to be a musician because if you were you would make money

01:17:50.540 so i think it's good you went into sex work

01:17:55.320 that's what i would say i think it's good someone's got to do it and i'm glad it's not me

01:18:03.600 so thank you for your service that you've been every story is different every story is different

01:18:09.740 but i do think that you know we can make a generalization i was at that point where i was

01:18:14.100 going to college i was working three jobs i used to be a nurse so you just don't know the situations

01:18:20.180 you don't know how life is going to turn out it's going to be ups and downs but no i didn't want

01:18:26.260 she say her name i want to know it's her instagram should we watch her mixtape 0.99

01:18:30.460 what was her name can someone look at their name and at the end we'll look at her we'll see

01:18:37.480 if her mixtape is any good i do it but in my situation and things that i went through it's

01:18:42.740 something that it just but i'm actually really glad that you said no i didn't want to do it and

01:18:48.280 you were put in a situation where you had to do it because i think that's really honest and i think

01:18:52.480 the problem that i find with feminism is that it's tremendously it's a dishonest movement all right 0.70

01:18:57.720 guys pause it's been voted out by the majority thank you i'm not judging

01:19:02.100 i am judging i'm judging your music career

01:19:09.720 as not that good but well can someone doug mpa can you get her name so i can check out her page at the

01:19:16.880 end

01:19:17.160 nice to meet you nice to meet you catherine candace you brought up a book about that we're going to

01:19:24.900 biology and that biology is what we should organize society on based on like what skills

01:19:31.380 sure i can i can restate what i said there that there is a book and the argument that's being

01:19:36.220 made is that you can't override you can't outthink your biology is the easiest way to say it so

01:19:40.260 feminism i would say is a movement where they're trying to outthink biology meaning that all we have 0.99

01:19:45.500 to do is this this this this and that and then magically we're going to be transformed and that desire

01:19:50.120 within us to want to start a family is just going to like die or we're going to be happier doing

01:19:55.000 this thing and i think the answer to that is no right um i would argue that our biology does not have

01:20:02.280 as much of an effect on the things that we choose to do with our careers with our life choices as

01:20:07.120 you think it does our closest ancestors are chimps and bonobos bonobos are matriarchal chimps are 0.73

01:20:12.800 patriarchal so and our previous societies have run egalitarian for millennia it's not been this

01:20:19.840 inherent desire for men to rule a certain way and women to rule another way it has been egalitarian

01:20:27.120 it's been matriarchal it's been patriarchal because there are things that go into effect like your 0.98

01:20:33.760 situation your personality that make you better at doing something than just your biology i know many

01:20:40.400 quiet nerdy men that would not be good leaders and i know many strong women and vice versa like 0.93

01:20:45.900 it does not i don't know any women that would be good leaders i'm sure they exist i just don't know 1.00

01:20:51.140 matter as base your testosterone the hormones you admit is not going to have as much of an effect as i

01:20:57.480 think you think it does i totally think it does and so that's why what's getting back to college since

01:21:02.600 i'm assuming you support women going to college yeah can you explain why there is when they can freely

01:21:09.040 choose why there is such a difference in the majors that women choose versus the majors that men choose

01:21:17.860 when they get to college well i think it's also important to note that things are changing and

01:21:21.500 there's like many initiatives to get more women into stem to get women into higher paying career fields 1.00

01:21:25.900 when women have been kept out of these fields for so long it's the slow and steady race to get them 1.00

01:21:30.900 there it's not that women are not choosing them it's they're slowly learning that this is okay for them 0.77

01:21:36.180 to choose there's more women in stem there's more lawyers there's more women women are making 1.00

01:21:40.140 upstrides to those positions so it's not like they're sedentary and they're staying in these

01:21:45.040 humanities or arts field i don't think you're being honest i think you know like if did you go to

01:21:50.580 college i mean i'm in college i think i know that i mean aren't it's not because they're not pressured

01:21:54.780 it's because when quite literally they say what are you interested in women flock to certain things 0.85

01:21:58.840 they just do we do we as a whole do it tends to be and less work women don't want to do as much work 1.00

01:22:05.300 we want the easy stuff not the hard stuff the men want to make money we want to have fun

01:22:11.880 it's really it and this is because we are biologically wired and even when a child is

01:22:18.700 born when a woman like a female uh a child versus a male child the girls start speaking faster and 1.00

01:22:26.720 they speak more words just a fact right for the rest of their lives like my daughter started speaking

01:22:30.420 and this is not anecdotal but this is i'm giving you an anecdotal example of something that is a real

01:22:33.820 fact yeah because we never shut the up so there's just a biological proclivity there that women like 1.00

01:22:40.400 communication and you see that followed all the way as an example into college women are drawn 1.00

01:22:46.300 toward these careers that are compassionate emotional and communicative which is why you'll

01:22:50.940 see women flooding journalism that's why even when you see women that are finding success 1.00

01:22:55.140 they are typically in careers that are communicative and compassionate women that will say i want to do

01:23:00.740 psychology i want to do children's psychology and so even at the same time that women are saying 0.99

01:23:04.940 that they're running away from their biology so to speak they are still exhibiting that they very much

01:23:10.080 believe in these determined biological characteristics that i think are something that's just never going

01:23:17.200 to go away right but i would also bring up that the the way that women are young girls are given 1.00

01:23:23.160 dolls young boys are put in sports these things that kids learn at a very early age are very

01:23:29.080 impactful in what children like and pursue in the future it's not simply that i don't think there's

01:23:44.220 a biological gene that women like fashion and men don't that's why we do see men in fashion that's why 0.99

01:23:49.360 there's actually at the top of all these fashion houses a lot of men are in successful positions in

01:23:53.900 fashion um the way in which you teach to children you're not here for women but you're here

01:23:58.960 because you want the 19th amendment abolished well you're going to be waiting the rest of your life

01:24:02.740 because that's never going to happen and to explore creativity and to play and what we put women and 1.00

01:24:07.640 we put women in pink rooms and little girls in pink rooms and boys in blue that has an effect 0.90

01:24:12.740 so and i'll tell you why i disagree and i know because i had my children back to back that there was

01:24:16.960 there's a blur here so i never had to separate them and say you play with this you play with that they

01:24:21.380 were growing up with their toys i mean one year apart my daughter and my son they just are interested

01:24:26.420 in different things and this is one of the i think lies of feminism and when you actually have 1.00

01:24:30.880 children there may be some exceptional child but i am telling you my boy's first word was car he's

01:24:36.040 obsessed with trucks he's obsessed with cars i did not do that i do not like i don't like having to

01:24:39.560 answer his questions about cars i don't like having to answer his questions about trucks because my

01:24:43.780 biological proclivities are not designed i i'm just not because you're more retarded 1.00

01:24:48.320 because we are more i can't i can't say what i want to say i can't say what i want to say

01:24:55.940 men are able men think about more useful things than we do unfortunately

01:25:04.840 i wish i could be just like my father

01:25:07.820 such a great guy feeling passionate about engineering wanting to know how everything works

01:25:13.600 you don't recognize that and this is i think one of the worst harms of yeah women speak three 1.00

01:25:18.280 words men speak one word and it's because men do things women talk it's like amazing i have a talk

01:25:23.400 show my dad's the one who should have a talk show but he's too busy doing things do you know what i mean

01:25:28.460 i my dad's the one and he it's so funny because he just thinks he he couldn't do media or any of this

01:25:37.200 stuff and i beg him i beg him he's so cool he's so cool i wish i could show you guys my dad because

01:25:45.340 he's just he is that cool anyone that's met him in person he is that cool there's no if answer but

01:25:53.860 i introduce my father as the coolest guy ever

01:25:56.640 and then he'll always say to me he's always like

01:26:00.720 i've made a lot of mistakes in life i'm not perfect i'm like damn near none

01:26:06.700 will dad ever come on never

01:26:10.780 feminism because i was a feminist when i was in college or i of course she was 1.00

01:26:15.160 it's convenient at least i agreed with the movement because you don't have the family yet

01:26:20.500 so when they make these arguments that doug mpa's madam he's that cool right he's so cool

01:26:25.700 you're making you think that that's real you think oh well it's just because

01:26:28.880 you're not giving the child the button my dad my dad told me

01:26:34.240 to give up on the on the abortion argument years ago

01:26:38.320 and i was like no dad it's so wrong we gotta fight three years later you're right they win

01:26:47.240 yeah the barbie doll that they don't love barbie dolls and that's not a reality that

01:26:53.940 we are just quite literally different there are many i'm so sorry all right we're done

01:26:58.860 we're done that one all right we're gonna check out all right make sure you take out

01:27:07.580 all right i'm gonna wait for a second so they actually take my screen off

01:27:14.640 they've been taking their damn time recently let me let me wait are we off doug mpa we're off 0.85

01:27:25.360 all right thank you no offense okay um all right here's the instagram of the stripper

01:27:34.780 all right let me wait for a second so i'm gonna wait for a second so i'm gonna wait for a second i'm gonna show you

01:27:37.660 all right oh my god all right let's see this girl's mixtape we can bring it up now um

01:27:44.780 um her music all right let's let's objectively raid her music okay

01:27:52.880 all right here we go i hope this doesn't copyright me but it's a risk we're gonna

01:28:04.100 have to take we're just gonna play like 10 for like five seconds and stop

01:28:07.400 this is terrible that's too much auto-tune for me let's see a different one ghost

01:28:21.620 i'm in a rolls-royce but i'm gone like a ghost okay

01:28:37.400 okay i liked this one a little better but like good

01:28:52.320 i'll if you're watching this in the replay and it's muted it's because i got copyright

01:28:57.700 now the question is is the song good is can i shimmy to it can i shimmy

01:29:12.480 i tried the shimmy i'm not feeling the shimmy

01:29:21.860 uh oscar stop simping that was not good this all sucks 0.84

01:29:28.240 all right well on that note she did only fans for nothing because she's not good at music 0.60

01:29:35.700 my song was way better my mixtape slapped okay you can look it up pearl davis on spotify

01:29:44.820 it's we don't party like we used to and addictive i'm not even gonna play you guys i've played it

01:29:50.800 before on the show but if you're interested i do have a spotify and it's better than this

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JustPearlyThings - July 02, 2025

Candace Owens Debates Feminists PART TWO ｜ Pearl Reacts

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