JustPearlyThings - June 06, 2023


Child Support Is A SCAM!!! (here's why)


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9 minutes

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2,257

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220

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In this episode, the guys talk about child support and why it should or shouldn t be a part of the child support agreement between a parent and their child s legal guardian. The guys also talk about the benefits and drawbacks of the current child support system.

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00:00:00.000 I'm saying there should be no incentive for the woman to leave. None. But I'm saying with child support, there is an incentive. Because that money can elevate her lifestyle. Why is she entitled to his money? 0.95
00:00:14.960 But correct me if I'm wrong, but the model we were talking about now was if the man were to pay for even just for the child, the money, let's assume that the money is going to the child while the child is living with the mom. You were saying that he shouldn't pay. But I'm saying if it is going to the child while he's the child with the parent, there shouldn't be a problem with that.
00:00:32.680 Because you're taking away the consequence of the expensive cost of a child for the woman. You're again making it easier for her to leave. 0.99
00:00:39.280 She's left now, so I'm trying to benefit my child.
00:00:41.180 It should be a choice.
00:00:42.020 She's already gone. She's already made that bad decision.
00:00:43.520 So then, if the man wants to do that, he should be freely able to. If he wants, he shouldn't be legally forced for her bad decision.
00:00:51.100 I think most men want to take care of their kids. And if it ends amicably, most guys, they're going to do what's best for the child.
00:00:58.500 What I'm saying is there shouldn't be a gun to his side saying you have to pay your baby mama who destroyed your home. 0.54
00:01:03.940 Especially if he has access. Most of the time when I hear guys ain't trying to pay no money, it's because they can't see their kids.
00:01:08.880 That's why. Do you know what I'm saying? I don't hear men that have their kids all the time saying I ain't giving no money.
00:01:12.940 Like, I don't hear that. So if the guy's got the access and he's got the 50% custody, I'm sure you won't mind handing over the bread.
00:01:19.460 And also, if a man's making a lot more than a woman, yeah, why is that not taken into account, yeah, when they're doing custody in the first place?
00:01:27.020 Because you're talking about the standard of living for the child. If I make four times more than the wife, yeah, you can't tell me that the kid's not going to have a better life at my house.
00:01:35.880 Exactly.
00:01:36.120 But then I have to pay for, nah, nah, allow it. And then she's wearing Gucci blood when she's making H&M money. Don't make sense.
00:01:44.080 They think that inherently a woman will be able to take care of the child better, but if I'm making more money, that puts me in a position where... 1.00
00:01:48.280 Speaking to the mic. You're going to have to tilt the mic into, yeah, like that.
00:01:51.520 Sorry, man. That puts me in a position where I can then take care of that child better.
00:01:55.500 So, if in that situation, if I'm in that situation, I should be given custody.
00:01:59.460 But yeah, they won't do that.
00:02:00.300 But it depends on time. It depends on time, though. And there are lots of cases, like Usher, he had more money than Tameka, and he had the children most of the time.
00:02:09.260 There are instances where when the man is earning more, and they do want the child, because they are like, I am the better parent.
00:02:16.220 No, there's exceptions to the rule.
00:02:18.820 Precisely, yes. But there are also lots of fathers who are working a lot, and are like,
00:02:24.700 I don't have the time to rear this child. I may have the financial capacity to do this.
00:02:29.860 And I agree that most hedge fund managers, say, in your career, your successful hedge fund managers, would they want to look after a child full-time if they were separated from their wife?
00:02:39.120 They'd get a nanny, to be honest.
00:02:40.300 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:02:40.980 And who's rearing the child? So, then that's going to be the... You'd be like, let's actually fund the child's lifestyle so that it's still...
00:02:47.820 So, do you know what's crazy? I have men in my DMs, like guys with check marks, with money, status, and influence,
00:02:53.500 that say they have problems with child custody. That's what they send me their stories.
00:02:58.460 And these are men with money. So, what does that mean for the average guy?
00:03:02.400 Dude, I literally just said to you, I have family members who are currently in this situation with their baby mothers now.
00:03:07.840 Two kids apiece, literally, because they have moved on, are not able to see their kids.
00:03:13.080 But they're not the ones that I'm talking about. I'm literally talking about the ones who, if the person has gone and filed for child support,
00:03:21.720 in this country anyway, the money that you're going to get is really shit.
00:03:25.620 It's not actually worth it. It's not like in America. It's very different.
00:03:28.960 You're not going to be able to fund a lavish lifestyle on what you're going to be awarded because it's so calculated.
00:03:35.760 It's not that great.
00:03:36.420 But I'm saying you shouldn't get anything. Why are you entitled to that?
00:03:39.840 It's just better to have an amicable reasoning, mediation.
00:03:45.180 Somebody else comes in and you split it and it's custody. It's 50-50 custody.
00:03:50.960 I think that is the best.
00:03:51.680 But you left though. But you left though. Do you know what I mean?
00:03:55.500 If you used to work at Nando's and you left, you ain't getting free chicken no more.
00:03:58.980 We're not talking about alimony. We're talking about child support.
00:04:02.540 The money should be going to feed and clothe. 1.00
00:04:06.320 But you left though.
00:04:07.760 If he chooses to, he should get the choice.
00:04:11.320 If you get left as a dude, he should get the choice.
00:04:15.760 He shouldn't have a gun to his head saying, oh, she left you. Now you have to pay for the kid.
00:04:19.460 But you should want to. It's your child.
00:04:21.160 Yeah, you're right. He probably does want to.
00:04:24.240 But I'm saying the government should not make him.
00:04:26.780 Because if the woman's acting up and not letting him see the kid or something, 1.00
00:04:32.620 he should be able to take away the money.
00:04:34.280 Yeah, he should be able to.
00:04:35.840 But it's not right now.
00:04:37.320 I think that is fair.
00:04:38.560 If you don't have access to your child, you should be removed.
00:04:41.720 It's just like if a woman gets pregnant and you say, 0.90
00:04:44.140 they're cool, I don't want to be a dad.
00:04:45.400 And she goes, I will. Too bad.
00:04:47.200 And she keeps the you anyway.
00:04:48.760 But they're still going to run you down for bread. 0.96
00:04:50.260 Do you know what I mean?
00:04:50.900 And then on the flip side, if you say, yo, like I want a child.
00:04:53.680 And she says, I don't.
00:04:55.020 But if the child's gone, then you have to live with the consequences.
00:04:57.540 Either way, we ain't got no say in nothing.
00:05:00.040 So it's one of them ones where if you leave,
00:05:02.680 I don't see why I should have to give you any money.
00:05:05.080 I would want to, but I shouldn't have to.
00:05:07.220 Because you would have got money if you didn't leave.
00:05:08.500 So in this same scenario where we don't have a say on anything and I'm saying,
00:05:12.880 well, you should just wear a condom or you should have picked better.
00:05:17.080 Wouldn't that be the same for the woman when she's get cheated on? 1.00
00:05:19.620 When you're like, if you're getting cheated on,
00:05:21.560 you should take responsibility for that because you pick back.
00:05:23.980 Is he not picking back?
00:05:25.080 Because at the end of the day, I'm saying there should not,
00:05:29.680 he should not have to pay.
00:05:32.080 That's what I'm saying.
00:05:32.860 But should he not have picked better?
00:05:34.580 He should have.
00:05:35.320 Okay.
00:05:35.580 Yeah.
00:05:35.960 Like he should have picked better.
00:05:37.480 But my whole point is that when a man picks wrong,
00:05:40.580 there's a consequence.
00:05:41.520 When a woman picks wrong, she takes half. 1.00
00:05:44.120 Well, you're not getting half.
00:05:45.280 If you've just had a child with somebody, it's not half.
00:05:47.220 Okay.
00:05:47.840 Even if it's a quarter, that's a quarter too much.
00:05:50.440 And a divorce, it really does depend on what you're set up.
00:05:54.700 But that's not, the number isn't the point.
00:05:57.000 You understand the point I'm making?
00:05:58.580 Like the point is that when a woman makes a bad decision, 1.00
00:06:00.720 there's no consequence.
00:06:01.680 When a man makes a bad decision, there is.
00:06:03.460 Well, that's where we differ.
00:06:05.120 I guess it depends on the society though.
00:06:08.640 Because what you're saying is the woman would take half, right? 0.99
00:06:12.100 If you go to Arab countries, that's not the issue.
00:06:13.700 That's not the case.
00:06:14.260 I know, but we're not in it.
00:06:15.160 But this is what girls do. 1.00
00:06:16.240 But I'm saying clearly in the context of this conversation,
00:06:19.180 we're talking about the West.
00:06:20.380 Yeah, of course.
00:06:20.900 Yeah.
00:06:21.040 I'm just telling you, like,
00:06:22.080 there are a few cases that it does not get implemented that way.
00:06:25.240 Yes.
00:06:25.640 But it's the exception.
00:06:26.640 It's not the rule.
00:06:27.420 Yeah, of course.
00:06:28.060 And you can see marriages last longer than.
00:06:29.580 Yeah.
00:06:30.780 100%.
00:06:31.140 Do you know what I mean?
00:06:32.140 And also in those cultures and that,
00:06:34.500 like man can have multiple wires,
00:06:36.340 man can do all these things
00:06:37.140 and a woman's not necessarily going to leave you 1.00
00:06:38.900 just because of that,
00:06:39.880 because she understands that the family,
00:06:41.240 she can,
00:06:41.900 but most of the time they don't
00:06:42.900 because they understand the importance of the family.
00:06:44.480 I kind of want to give back a right to vote.
00:06:47.440 I'll take one for the team.
00:06:53.000 Okay, let me read some super time.
00:06:54.120 This is where we're headed.
00:06:54.960 Did you just say women should be able to vote? 1.00
00:06:56.380 Yes.
00:06:56.660 Yeah, I said,
00:06:57.120 I'll take one for the team.
00:06:58.760 Give the right back to vote.
00:07:00.200 I said,
00:07:00.540 give the right back. 0.99
00:07:01.680 No voting,
00:07:02.800 no being able to vote.
00:07:03.940 Just take their driver's licenses.
00:07:05.820 Exactly.
00:07:06.100 I know.
00:07:06.780 I hate driving.
00:07:07.620 I don't know why we fought for this.
00:07:09.340 You know what I'm saying?
00:07:11.020 Everything else you can keep.
00:07:12.200 I'm just saying.
00:07:13.060 Take them pink cards, bro.
00:07:14.560 Handmaidens' Tale.
00:07:16.120 The Handmaidens' Tale.
00:07:17.400 I think she's trying to get us there 0.98
00:07:18.760 to the Handmaidens' Tale.
00:07:19.620 No, I'm just trying to,
00:07:20.740 look at it, look at it.
00:07:21.440 Okay, hear me out, hear me out.
00:07:22.740 In the 50s,
00:07:23.860 if women just waited it out, okay, 1.00
00:07:25.940 before we didn't have to work,
00:07:27.600 we got to be housewives, 0.98
00:07:28.840 and now everything's automated.
00:07:31.400 We're tripping.
00:07:32.220 And if we just waited 20 years,
00:07:34.120 the washer,
00:07:34.840 we have a washer and dryer.
00:07:36.300 We have Roombas.
00:07:37.560 We have dry cleaning.
00:07:38.800 Like,
00:07:39.680 if we just waited it out,
00:07:41.000 we would all be chilling.
00:07:42.360 It's funny, though.
00:07:43.200 We would all be chilling.
00:07:45.000 But where's ambition?
00:07:46.520 I think if a woman wants to have, 1.00
00:07:49.380 to be that housewife, 0.99
00:07:50.560 and is just living,
00:07:52.160 and they're just cooking,
00:07:53.340 cleaning,
00:07:53.820 that's cool.
00:07:55.420 She's proud of one, though.
00:07:56.360 There are,
00:07:57.000 women don't read that. 1.00
00:07:58.760 Feminist.
00:07:59.520 It doesn't matter.
00:08:00.560 There are,
00:08:01.200 you're going to find a husband.
00:08:02.480 There are men that are cool with that.
00:08:03.960 But then there are other women, 1.00
00:08:05.620 there are other women, 1.00
00:08:07.980 who have ambitions,
00:08:09.400 who don't,
00:08:10.380 we're sentient.
00:08:11.580 We're not literally doormats,
00:08:13.060 and we're not the same.
00:08:14.080 And some people want to have careers,
00:08:16.020 and they want to invent things,
00:08:17.420 and they want to do other stuff.
00:08:18.820 And there are men.
00:08:19.980 I mean, look,
00:08:20.440 I made this show.
00:08:21.940 Like,
00:08:22.120 I'm very creative and driven.
00:08:23.680 But I mean,
00:08:24.660 it's a lot easier
00:08:25.420 when you don't have the pressure of like,
00:08:27.060 It's easier if that's where your mentor is.
00:08:29.080 But there are lots of people
00:08:30.060 who it's not that.
00:08:31.200 They don't want to be,
00:08:32.320 they don't want to be cooking and cleaning.
00:08:34.000 Well,
00:08:34.200 I mean,
00:08:34.540 I'm saying like,
00:08:35.240 as a housewife,
00:08:36.360 I mean,
00:08:36.580 it doesn't mean you don't have hobbies,
00:08:38.420 and like other stuff you can do.
00:08:39.920 No,
00:08:40.120 they may want to actually like,
00:08:41.160 change the world.
00:08:42.880 I mean,
00:08:43.120 more than anything,
00:08:44.040 when I have kids,
00:08:44.540 they tend to stay at home a lot of times.
00:08:46.440 They don't tend to go back to work.
00:08:47.760 I think there's a reason for that.
00:08:48.640 Yeah.
00:08:49.280 Yeah.
00:08:49.520 Yeah.
00:08:49.980 I don't,
00:08:50.320 I don't actually want to return the rent.
00:08:51.600 And also when they talk about cooking and cleaning and that.
00:08:54.800 When you go into it,
00:08:56.360 it's like,
00:08:56.660 I mean,
00:08:57.600 I think the elections would go more.
00:08:59.340 Yeah,
00:08:59.480 but you're talking about cooking and cleaning.
00:09:01.120 But listen,
00:09:01.540 if your husband's got money,
00:09:02.440 you ain't even got a clean,
00:09:03.300 you can get a clean on it.
00:09:04.220 I think that's not that deep.
00:09:06.580 You can get a clean on it.
00:09:07.860 Do you know what I mean?
00:09:08.200 And most housewives probably have hobbies. 1.00
00:09:10.120 Like they go to the gym,
00:09:10.980 they get to go out shopping,
00:09:12.500 they get to do so many different things.
00:09:14.000 Or they're in charge of like philanthropy.
00:09:15.540 Like they have organizations that they run.
00:09:17.620 They get involved in the community.
00:09:18.680 You guys are talking about like side stuff.
00:09:20.480 I'm talking about people who have full on ideas.
00:09:24.020 They want to invent stuff.
00:09:25.240 They're scientists.
00:09:26.240 They are changing the world.
00:09:27.840 I'm not talking about side stuff.
00:09:29.060 Those women are minorities. 0.87
00:09:30.880 The majority of women don't invent things. 1.00
00:09:33.320 The majority of humans don't do much.
00:09:36.140 Yeah,
00:09:36.280 but the people who do invent,
00:09:38.040 it tends to be men.
00:09:38.740 Yeah,
00:09:39.340 that's what I mean.
00:09:40.640 They should be.
00:09:41.340 People who do invent,
00:09:42.720 it tends to be men.
00:09:43.760 Don't divorce your husband
00:09:44.820 and keep your kids out of prison.
00:09:46.080 You know them ones.
00:09:46.700 You're saving the world.
00:09:49.620 It's true though. 0.96
00:09:50.760 You might stop someone from getting shanked
00:09:52.220 just because you didn't leave your husband.
00:09:53.860 Like you never know.