JustPearlyThings - Confronting One Of My Haters

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

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00:01:00.000 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

00:01:02.180 Welcome to another episode of Pearl.

00:01:03.820 This past weekend, guys, I went to something a little bit different, something I've never

00:01:09.940 been to before.

00:01:11.480 I was introduced to the world of anime.

00:01:16.260 And I went to this anime convention and I was very confused.

00:01:20.880 Um, there was men walking around in dresses and my producer, the nice guy he is, he picked

00:01:30.580 me up from the airport and he was explaining to me about femboys and traps.

00:01:37.480 And we decided today we're going to do a fun game where I have to decide if somebody is

00:01:44.940 a man or a woman.

00:01:48.240 So he compiled a bunch of a list of characters.

00:01:55.280 And I get to pick if I think they're male or female.

00:02:00.800 Now, guys, do not give me any spoilers in the chat.

00:02:06.040 And also, if you have anything you want to comment, go to the audacity network.com and

00:02:13.760 sign up for my monthly or yearly memberships.

00:02:16.300 It's $10 a month, $80 a year, and you can get the app right on your phone.

00:02:21.020 And I will read your comment if you go into the live chat there.

00:02:26.340 Okay.

00:02:28.380 Yeah, I'm ready.

00:02:31.000 So first on the list, we got...

00:02:36.300 Oh, I just read it.

00:02:41.200 Identify the traps of anime.

00:02:46.300 If they're a trap.

00:02:49.040 A trap is the character is disguising himself as the other set.

00:02:53.660 Oh, okay.

00:02:54.460 Okay.

00:02:54.880 So I either think they're male or female.

00:02:57.600 Pearl will be shown a character from an anime.

00:03:00.080 Then attempt to identify if the character is a male or a female or if they are a trap in

00:03:05.540 their anime.

00:03:06.260 Okay.

00:03:06.460 Okay.

00:03:16.300 Are these all the same person?

00:03:19.220 These are all going to be the same person.

00:03:21.720 They're going to have different costumes.

00:03:23.500 Okay.

00:03:24.240 I think that's a woman, but that's a trap.

00:03:28.100 I think that's a woman trying to be a man.

00:03:32.940 Oh, it's a male.

00:03:35.540 So it's just a regular guy.

00:03:37.240 Okay.

00:03:37.740 Oh, he's a regular guy?

00:03:39.200 Yeah.

00:03:39.600 Why did they give him eyes like that?

00:03:42.000 Yeah.

00:03:42.440 Okay.

00:03:45.100 Go to the next one.

00:03:48.200 All right.

00:03:48.800 Is this character male or female?

00:03:51.100 So that's tough.

00:03:56.720 I'm going to say it's a woman because he, she, but she's got a dog and we just really like

00:04:04.360 to buy dogs.

00:04:05.420 Um, I don't know if it's a trap, but I think it's just a tomboy.

00:04:13.600 So I think it's a woman tomboy.

00:04:18.820 Okay.

00:04:19.280 So if it's a trap, they're trying to be the other gender.

00:04:21.800 Yeah.

00:04:22.640 In the context of the universe, people think that they're the other sex or they're purposely

00:04:28.040 disguising themselves.

00:04:29.600 Okay.

00:04:30.320 So it's a she.

00:04:31.780 Okay.

00:04:32.020 But I was right on the gender.

00:04:33.680 Okay.

00:04:34.120 Let me keep going.

00:04:35.420 Um, I think that that's, well, that's going to be a trap woman because it's like a male

00:04:50.000 on the left and then the middle, it's a girl.

00:04:54.240 Yeah.

00:04:54.920 So yeah, it's like a male, but it's a trap.

00:04:59.300 So it's pretending to be a female.

00:05:02.120 It's just a guy.

00:05:03.260 Uh, he's forced to, uh, in the show, you know, to wear the main object.

00:05:10.340 Oh, okay.

00:05:13.020 Wow.

00:05:13.520 These are tough.

00:05:14.960 Okay.

00:05:15.280 That's gotta be a woman.

00:05:16.980 That's gotta be a woman.

00:05:18.400 The eyes are too female.

00:05:20.880 And then I think he's trapping when he becomes, he puts the dress on.

00:05:27.060 Okay.

00:05:30.200 Sorry.

00:05:30.660 It's a woman.

00:05:31.280 It's a woman.

00:05:34.200 Yay.

00:05:34.680 I got that one.

00:05:40.660 That's a woman.

00:05:43.600 I'm not a trap.

00:05:44.420 I think it's just a woman.

00:05:46.320 It's a, it's a guy.

00:05:47.840 What is up with these anime things?

00:05:52.080 I'm telling you, this is why you're around.

00:05:54.960 I do not understand this.

00:05:56.500 Okay.

00:05:56.960 Keep going.

00:05:57.500 Keep going.

00:05:58.880 Male.

00:06:00.300 Okay.

00:06:01.540 Trap.

00:06:02.960 You think he's disguising himself as a girl?

00:06:05.140 Yeah.

00:06:05.600 It's a male trap.

00:06:06.960 So it's a.

00:06:07.820 It's just a male.

00:06:08.960 Oh.

00:06:09.580 It's just how we look.

00:06:10.280 I see why the men were in dresses now.

00:06:14.400 Is this a male or a female?

00:06:16.800 I think that's a female.

00:06:19.440 A trap.

00:06:20.540 Well, it's like a male trap.

00:06:21.860 So it's a, it's a female pretending to be a guy.

00:06:26.980 Yes.

00:06:28.780 I knew it.

00:06:31.940 That's a woman.

00:06:36.400 What the.

00:06:37.140 What the heck?

00:06:41.480 Okay.

00:06:41.840 Keep going.

00:06:42.280 Keep going.

00:06:43.280 Are you guys, do you guys like anime in the chat?

00:06:46.140 Are you guys, uh, let me know if you guys watch this stuff.

00:06:50.280 Um, so can't you just call them?

00:06:53.560 Oh, I can't say that word.

00:06:54.740 That's what got me demonetized originally, but okay.

00:06:59.160 This has got to be, I think it's a male pretending to be a woman.

00:07:04.600 So it's a female trap.

00:07:07.760 You're already trying.

00:07:09.680 But it's just a girl.

00:07:12.240 But look at her shoulders.

00:07:13.780 They're so broad.

00:07:14.940 I guess the boobs should have given it away.

00:07:18.020 You would think.

00:07:18.900 Yeah.

00:07:20.340 I don't know.

00:07:21.040 There's boob jobs now though.

00:07:22.480 I don't know how, how far they're going to go to sell it.

00:07:25.920 You know, keep going.

00:07:29.180 Okay.

00:07:29.620 That's what I'm going to do.

00:07:30.340 I'm going to look at the boobs.

00:07:31.520 All right.

00:07:32.020 Whatever is flat chested.

00:07:33.400 So you think it's a female?

00:07:35.340 Yeah.

00:07:35.720 I think it's, I think it's a male pretending to be a woman.

00:07:39.400 You are.

00:07:39.960 Yes.

00:07:40.740 Okay.

00:07:41.000 I think that's the tell.

00:07:42.240 You have to look at the boobs.

00:07:44.200 Okay.

00:07:44.460 Keep going.

00:07:46.020 All right.

00:07:46.400 Flat chested.

00:07:47.660 That's a guy.

00:07:50.220 Yeah.

00:07:50.620 I'm getting good.

00:07:53.480 There's no way the anime.

00:07:55.100 Okay.

00:07:55.460 I don't see boobs on this one.

00:07:59.460 Maybe.

00:08:01.600 I'm going to say guy.

00:08:02.740 I'm going to say guy.

00:08:03.840 Final answer.

00:08:05.920 Because I don't see boobs.

00:08:09.180 Oh, dang it.

00:08:10.460 She just wasn't blessed.

00:08:14.620 Oh, she's young.

00:08:15.880 Okay.

00:08:18.680 Uh...

00:08:20.620 Male.

00:08:24.300 No.

00:08:26.140 You know what?

00:08:26.740 I'm going to go female.

00:08:27.800 I'm going to go female because the eyes are like almost purple and that's kind of girly.

00:08:33.440 I just think the eyes are making me think, okay, male trap.

00:08:38.740 Yeah.

00:08:40.640 Dang it.

00:08:42.360 Oh, these are tough.

00:08:43.980 Okay.

00:08:44.260 Keep going.

00:08:47.600 Um...

00:08:48.440 I think that's a female.

00:08:58.880 No boobs.

00:08:59.340 Okay.

00:08:59.560 I'm going to start looking at the legs.

00:09:00.920 So if the legs are thinner, maybe?

00:09:05.540 No, but the...

00:09:06.820 In the anime convention, they really had a Coke bottle shape.

00:09:09.960 They would...

00:09:10.260 Guys, they had these like naked girls on posters.

00:09:13.260 Like basically naked.

00:09:14.380 And they would have a very Coke bottle.

00:09:17.060 I think it's a guy.

00:09:18.360 I think it's a guy.

00:09:19.800 A guy?

00:09:20.460 Yeah.

00:09:20.700 No curves.

00:09:21.360 Female trap.

00:09:22.300 You think it's a female trap?

00:09:23.480 Yeah.

00:09:24.160 Well, there would be male traps.

00:09:26.500 The trap is the pretended to be the trap.

00:09:29.880 Oh, so it's a male trap.

00:09:31.380 Yeah.

00:09:31.680 Okay.

00:09:31.980 If you think it's a guy, it's a male trap.

00:09:34.620 There's not.

00:09:35.340 It's just a trap.

00:09:38.740 I'm not doing good at this game.

00:09:40.460 Keep going.

00:09:41.120 Are there any more?

00:09:41.940 Okay.

00:09:42.200 Yeah, there's plenty.

00:09:42.960 Okay.

00:09:45.220 Are they a trap?

00:09:47.380 So this is all the same character?

00:09:49.440 It is all the same.

00:09:51.320 I think that's a guy.

00:09:53.660 That looks like a guy.

00:09:55.300 And I don't know if it's a guy trap because he's wearing both, but I'm going to just say male.

00:10:04.120 Yeah, maybe he's like a cross-dresser.

00:10:06.080 I'm going to say male.

00:10:07.040 Okay.

00:10:07.940 It's not as a female trap.

00:10:09.100 Oh, my goodness.

00:10:10.900 Do you guys find this?

00:10:12.000 Do you find her hot, guys?

00:10:15.880 Is this what you guys are into?

00:10:17.380 I don't know.

00:10:18.560 Oh, Sailor Moon.

00:10:19.580 I should have.

00:10:20.060 I've heard of that one before.

00:10:21.780 I should have.

00:10:22.440 I should have known.

00:10:23.180 Keep going.

00:10:26.340 All right.

00:10:32.620 That's a...

00:10:33.620 All right.

00:10:35.900 No boobs.

00:10:36.620 That's a guy.

00:10:38.000 Okay.

00:10:38.920 Just a guy?

00:10:39.580 Just a guy.

00:10:45.160 So in this, why do they dress as women?

00:10:47.600 Like, what's the point?

00:10:48.340 It depends on the story context.

00:10:52.320 A lot of times, it's just a funny gag.

00:10:55.020 Oh.

00:10:56.020 It's not to, like, date, but are they trying to...

00:10:58.300 Sometimes, with this character, I'm pretty sure they're gay.

00:11:02.300 Oh.

00:11:02.920 Like, they kind of have been serious and serious.

00:11:04.760 Okay.

00:11:07.400 So they said Japanese men are more feminine looking.

00:11:12.440 That's a woman.

00:11:14.000 I'm going to say woman that pretends to be a guy because she's got the guns.

00:11:19.600 I see boobs, though.

00:11:21.100 I'm going to...

00:11:21.340 Maybe it's a female trap.

00:11:22.400 Yeah.

00:11:22.680 Female trap.

00:11:23.980 Oh, just a...

00:11:24.940 Okay.

00:11:27.120 Keep going.

00:11:28.840 Male.

00:11:29.620 That's a male.

00:11:30.680 I see the skirt, so I'm going to say male trap.

00:11:34.760 It's actually a female.

00:11:36.000 What?

00:11:37.140 It's a girl.

00:11:38.920 There is no way you could tell in these animals.

00:11:41.780 Okay.

00:11:42.020 Keep going.

00:11:44.520 Is this how you guys feel when you see trans people on dating apps?

00:11:49.280 Because some of them are getting pretty good.

00:11:51.340 I mean, I wouldn't be able to tell for some.

00:11:55.120 All right.

00:11:55.260 That's got to be a woman.

00:11:56.940 That's a woman.

00:11:59.300 No.

00:12:00.500 No boobs.

00:12:01.800 Male.

00:12:02.420 Male trap.

00:12:03.260 You are.

00:12:04.540 Yes.

00:12:07.060 Okay.

00:12:07.580 Keep going.

00:12:08.020 Keep going.

00:12:10.580 I'm going to say female trap.

00:12:12.940 That looks like Mulan.

00:12:16.200 But it's just a regular dude.

00:12:19.580 All right.

00:12:23.340 Okay.

00:12:23.860 Keep going.

00:12:24.920 What did I get?

00:12:26.100 What was my score?

00:12:27.020 You got like 14 out of 40.

00:12:31.360 You got 14 out of 40.

00:12:33.980 Well, you know, it's all right.

00:12:36.160 So I almost, I didn't, I even, I like super failed.

00:12:40.480 Yeah.

00:12:40.800 I mean, it's fine.

00:12:42.180 All right.

00:12:43.520 If you guys like that, let me know in the comments and we'll do it again.

00:12:46.540 I'm going to read the stream on, on the website.

00:12:50.900 Okay.

00:12:51.380 Tom says, this is dumb.

00:12:52.940 You know what?

00:12:53.360 Thank you, Tom.

00:12:54.320 Thank you for your input.

00:12:56.580 I did ask.

00:12:58.080 We're American men.

00:12:59.180 We don't watch cartoons.

00:13:00.500 And then Rob, he disagreed in the chat.

00:13:02.680 He said, I love Warner bro cartoons.

00:13:05.580 Maybe the Japs need to watch less too.

00:13:08.340 And F their women more.

00:13:10.100 Old cartoons are good.

00:13:11.680 No question.

00:13:12.440 But these new cartoons suck.

00:13:14.980 Rob says, you're ignorant.

00:13:16.280 No imagination.

00:13:17.580 Tom says, this is dumb.

00:13:19.180 Rob says, I agree.

00:13:20.520 No one cares about anime.

00:13:21.740 We're adults and this is a waste of time.

00:13:25.160 Well, if you guys want your complaint to be heard, please go to the website on the audacity

00:13:29.740 network.com.

00:13:31.320 Okay.

00:13:32.280 So let's get into the stories of the day.

00:13:34.680 So a term that I heard when I first started listening to red pill content was F trophies

00:13:43.060 for clout.

00:13:43.820 Now, what is an F trophy for clout?

00:13:46.160 That is when usually women, but sometimes men, use their family and their children for

00:13:53.280 clout on the internet.

00:13:55.740 So the first person I heard use this term is Ryan Stone.

00:13:59.760 Now, Ryan Stone is a very smart red pill content creator.

00:14:04.840 And he does, he has really interesting streams.

00:14:09.500 And he responded to Matt Walsh and he said, he actually has a good book.

00:14:14.060 You guys should buy it.

00:14:14.780 He said, welcome to the world.

00:14:18.400 And it was Matt Walsh and his children.

00:14:21.160 And he said, showing off the F trophies for clout.

00:14:24.620 Now, when I originally heard this term, I thought it was a little bit harsh.

00:14:29.240 I thought, well, I mean, he's just posting a picture with his kids.

00:14:33.260 What's wrong with that?

00:14:35.240 But the thing about red pill content is sometimes once you see things, you just simply cannot

00:14:42.480 unsee it.

00:14:43.380 And once you notice how people use their children on the internet for attention, likes, and clicks,

00:14:49.760 even though there are literal pedophiles on that app, Twitter, and they have no regard

00:14:56.080 for their children's privacy, you really can't unsee it.

00:15:00.000 Now, what I'm not saying is that you can never post a picture with your family ever.

00:15:05.120 But we're getting to the point where people are live streaming their kids being born.

00:15:12.380 And the first thing they do after their kids are born is post it to Twitter.

00:15:16.800 Not send a picture to the family.

00:15:19.860 Not enjoy the moment privately for a couple of days.

00:15:23.480 No, it's all going on Twitter.

00:15:27.700 I even saw a woman named Bernadine Bluntley post a literal video of her giving birth on

00:15:35.580 the internet.

00:15:36.060 Now, look, I understand that at times, maybe for educational purposes, you put something

00:15:42.700 online.

00:15:43.900 I understand that maybe, you know, there's pros and cons of posting your family.

00:15:49.600 Like, when Kanye let out that, or sorry, when Kanye released that song with his daughter,

00:15:56.260 I actually thought it was adorable and it looked like they were having a lot of fun.

00:16:02.080 However, Trad Twitter has, they have just, it's getting ridiculous.

00:16:09.040 Now, I noticed this trend and there was somebody named Anna Louise.

00:16:19.640 I really don't know a ton of her content, but it seems like she posts pro family, like

00:16:28.080 trad con content, right?

00:16:30.580 Like that's her brand.

00:16:31.560 That's what she's making money on.

00:16:33.640 I actually can't believe she follows me.

00:16:36.120 Wow.

00:16:36.860 Okay.

00:16:37.300 Um, and she posted a picture with her family and she says, this is the way.

00:16:43.480 And I am interpreting this because when I see this content, I'm thinking, what message

00:16:53.160 is she trying to send?

00:16:54.320 She's saying, live like me, be like me.

00:16:58.240 And she's using her family as a prop for social media.

00:17:02.800 I mean, that's, that's what essentially the message is, right?

00:17:05.960 Be like me, have a bunch of children like I did.

00:17:09.920 And the scary thing is when you learn about how pedophiles are on these apps, looking for

00:17:22.720 pictures of your children to track them down and get more information on them.

00:17:28.060 And oftentimes they might, you know, try to add them on different apps when they get to

00:17:33.620 the age that they're on.

00:17:34.860 You know, the internet's kind of a weird and scary, um, the internet's kind of a weird and

00:17:40.600 a scary place.

00:17:42.300 And I just always wonder when you're posting your kids' faces on the internet, at what cost?

00:17:49.740 And essentially what a lot of the traditional conservatives are signaling is that they care

00:17:57.920 more about their brand than the privacy of their family.

00:18:02.780 Now, I'm not even saying one's right or wrong.

00:18:06.960 I'm sure some people post their family on the internet and it's fine.

00:18:11.560 However, essentially they're communicating that the money is more important than the privacy

00:18:17.940 of, and I really do think at some point, you know, one of these kids is going to have a

00:18:25.120 lawsuit against their parents for not giving them privacy when they are kids.

00:18:32.980 Now, this, when I tweeted this, this completely set the internet in flames.

00:18:38.440 People were very upset with me.

00:18:41.060 I remember at the time, sorry, Pearl, this is actually the way.

00:18:47.940 Now, I'm not saying it is or it isn't the way, but I think that's something that every

00:18:53.940 guy has to decide for himself.

00:18:56.680 I know men that, um, they just want to focus on building their businesses and that's just

00:19:05.320 what they want to do.

00:19:06.240 Family just is not a priority for them.

00:19:08.800 If it happens, it happens, but it's just not something that they want to do.

00:19:12.000 I don't think that one makes someone morally superior to another.

00:19:17.000 I don't know if that makes sense.

00:19:19.160 Um, anyways, then they're trying to say your depopulation, da, da, da, da, da.

00:19:25.980 And really my only point was you guys are claiming traditionalism, but you're, you're sacrificing

00:19:35.660 your children's privacy for money.

00:19:39.500 Okay.

00:19:42.740 What's not plugged in?

00:19:43.820 Oh, okay.

00:19:45.560 Thank you.

00:19:47.120 Now, this recently, I recently noticed a woman on Twitter erupting that apparently Nick and

00:20:00.980 his groipers were making, um, rape jokes or grape jokes about her daughter.

00:20:08.520 Now that is wrong, right?

00:20:10.900 That is completely wrong.

00:20:12.580 You should not make those type of jokes about someone's daughter, but I don't know when,

00:20:18.940 you know, she's on this whole tirade saying Nick is wrong.

00:20:22.420 His followers are wrong.

00:20:24.260 Da, da, da, da, da.

00:20:25.440 They're evil.

00:20:26.400 Well, and I can't, I kept thinking, where is the accountability for the mother?

00:20:32.700 So the original post is, she says, people are saying that I'm making Nick F look bad,

00:20:37.940 but why would I care about his reputation or support him when he doesn't support me?

00:20:42.560 Nick, how about you tell your pedo cult crew to stop making grape comments about my underage

00:20:48.680 daughter?

00:20:49.620 Now, my questions are, why do people even know you have a daughter if you're a political

00:20:53.560 commentator?

00:20:54.220 Why is that information out there?

00:20:58.460 Whose choice was that?

00:21:01.720 Ever since you said on your show with the most sinister, deceptive grin on your face, the

00:21:07.940 groipers have only gotten worse and you won't acknowledge that it's wrong about coping and

00:21:12.560 deflection.

00:21:13.120 Now, what do we know about that group on the internet?

00:21:15.860 They make very edgy jokes.

00:21:17.800 These guys, they, they're kind of, you know, I don't really want to send them after me right

00:21:23.540 now, but I'm just being honest.

00:21:24.960 You guys are kind of annoying.

00:21:26.480 Like you guys are in everyone's comments spamming.

00:21:29.340 Like that's just the group.

00:21:30.880 But again, the same reason when they spam me with stuff, I don't complain because I made

00:21:38.840 that choice to interview him.

00:21:40.480 She takes zero accountability for her choice to interact with these things.

00:21:46.600 And it just drives me nuts where these ladies, they want to play the victim when they want

00:21:54.700 all of the clout for going online.

00:21:57.420 They want all of the benefit of being a public figure, making money on the internet.

00:22:02.420 And there's a ton.

00:22:04.000 I I'm not saying one is right or wrong.

00:22:06.940 You know, you can pick yourself, but what I am saying is if you choose this path, there

00:22:14.620 are consequences.

00:22:16.180 And if your children have those consequences, that's your own fault.

00:22:23.500 Um, you know, you, I don't have a lot of sympathy now, then what happens is the white

00:22:30.460 nights come in.

00:22:33.660 I don't care if you're a groiper, MAGA, far left, far right, joking about graping someone's

00:22:39.420 child isn't cool, edgy, and isn't funny.

00:22:41.760 These are lines we don't cross, especially if you call yourself a Christian.

00:22:45.660 Now, I'm not disagreeing with that point.

00:22:48.200 I'm not disagreeing that it's wrong, but we all know what kind of app Twitter is.

00:22:53.740 There is literal pornography on that app, literal.

00:22:57.020 So, a lot of these people have no regard for their children when they're using an app that

00:23:05.720 is used for pornography and then using their children for clout.

00:23:12.440 Um, okay.

00:23:16.180 Agreed.

00:23:16.740 This should be obvious.

00:23:18.020 At the same time, my haters always do this guilt by association smear, which is clearly

00:23:23.100 dishonest and bad faith.

00:23:24.440 Let's not be naive.

00:23:26.580 The drama queen in question should block report and move on.

00:23:29.980 Exactly.

00:23:31.760 So, I just don't have a lot of sympathy.

00:23:35.940 So, you know, I had to give in my two cents.

00:23:40.660 I really had to.

00:23:42.520 So, you know, she goes in.

00:23:45.880 Let me find.

00:23:47.200 Actually, let me go back.

00:23:48.140 No, okay.

00:23:56.180 To be fair, I probably didn't have to.

00:23:59.000 I, you know, I'm gonna, hands up, hands up.

00:24:02.320 I didn't have to say anything.

00:24:04.760 But sometimes there's just a fire that gets lit in me when I see things that are really,

00:24:11.360 I don't like the pretending to be a victim.

00:24:14.260 I get a lot of people making fun of me, okay?

00:24:17.320 A lot.

00:24:17.940 There, I have no, I've had a lot of people say awful things and I don't play the victim

00:24:23.900 because I have the best job on the planet right now.

00:24:28.400 And again, what they want is they want all of the benefits of being on the internet, all

00:24:35.460 the benefits of posting their kids and none of the blame when anything goes wrong.

00:24:43.700 Okay, here we go.

00:24:45.840 So she's written an essay and I'm not going to read this because quite frankly, I just

00:24:51.420 don't care.

00:24:52.580 An essay about, you know, all these people, I don't deserve to be called a whore.

00:24:58.820 And by the way, this is a woman who's called me a whore, bitch.

00:25:04.340 I don't, look it, I don't care.

00:25:06.120 Say what you want.

00:25:07.180 But you, this girl does the same exact thing.

00:25:11.460 Now, she writes an essay and she says, I say, why is your child on the internet?

00:25:19.920 She says, she's not.

00:25:21.540 Then shut up.

00:25:22.500 No one cares because you chose to be online and you mentioned your kid.

00:25:26.480 We all know the internet's full of weirdos, right?

00:25:29.940 We all know this.

00:25:31.820 So, but you think that privacy is less important than a public presence.

00:25:38.360 That's what you picked.

00:25:40.200 You, you, you picked it.

00:25:41.840 Nobody put a gun to your head and said, go online.

00:25:44.980 And this could all be done if she just deletes her account.

00:25:48.180 She would never happen again.

00:25:49.480 Gone, done, problem solved.

00:25:51.040 But what they're doing is she's trying to play the victim to get sympathy from idiot

00:25:59.260 men who, whenever they see a woman cry, they just have to run to her defense.

00:26:05.760 And a lot of these guys are falling for it.

00:26:09.540 So, um, I think that's really all I got to say.

00:26:14.880 You know, and then she tries to call me a pedo.

00:26:18.700 I'm like, why do women do that?

00:26:20.280 They put the worst insult imaginable.

00:26:23.040 I've been saying for years to get your kids offline.

00:26:26.360 I've been saying this for years.

00:26:28.120 I've been saying, hey, hey, trads, you know, I don't know if you should put your kids on

00:26:33.180 the internet.

00:26:35.080 There's pedos on this app.

00:26:36.680 And they say, Pearl, you're so evil.

00:26:39.100 You're the worst.

00:26:40.000 Just, I don't know, guys, uh, I know the cloud and the money is nice, but, you know,

00:26:47.960 it's, it's one thing if they're adults, but they don't really have a say in this or even

00:26:53.320 teenagers.

00:26:53.940 Okay.

00:26:54.380 If they have their own account, but I don't know that kids like five.

00:26:59.620 No.

00:27:01.780 Okay.

00:27:02.180 You guys are in politics.

00:27:03.980 Politics is pretty like they, they go pretty far in politics to destroy everything.

00:27:10.540 No, but cloud.

00:27:12.480 Okay.

00:27:13.460 Anyways, my two cents.

00:27:14.900 I don't want to go too into the back and forth because this lady's crazy.

00:27:19.900 Um, okay.

00:27:21.720 So did I miss anything?

00:27:25.640 What else did I?

00:27:28.640 Oh yeah.

00:27:29.360 Just an essay.

00:27:31.600 Cry me a river.

00:27:34.380 Cry me a river.

00:27:36.580 Okay.

00:27:37.060 Now I want to give an update on the Sydney Sweeney situation.

00:27:42.200 So as you guys know, the internet has erupted debating if they find Sydney Sweeney erupted

00:27:50.400 on how attractive Sydney Sweeney is.

00:27:55.120 Now, Sydney Sweeney is an internet movie star.

00:27:58.800 Now she is an attractive woman, right?

00:28:03.220 And she's known for being, let me do Sydney Sweeney.

00:28:07.600 She's known for being a blonde bombshell.

00:28:10.500 Okay.

00:28:10.740 This is what she's known for looking like.

00:28:13.880 I mean, is this eight, nine, 10?

00:28:19.400 What do you, I mean, eight, I'd say eight, right?

00:28:22.100 Now, recently these pool pictures got leaked and this, they basically showed what she looks

00:28:31.680 like day to day.

00:28:32.680 Now, clearly she's not ugly, right?

00:28:36.140 Not unattractive.

00:28:37.300 But the internet is saying that she is a catfish, that this is not as attractive as this.

00:28:46.380 And I don't, and I think this really hit a pain point amongst men because, you know,

00:28:55.700 I'll talk to guys that are going on dates off of dating apps and they think they're going

00:28:59.480 on a dating app with a seven, but they're really going on a dating app with a chubby five.

00:29:04.740 They said, whoa, whoa, whoa, that 20 pounds wasn't in your picture.

00:29:09.340 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:29:10.600 That was, that picture is at least five years old.

00:29:14.540 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:29:15.820 Whoa, whoa, did you get rid of your, your big nose on FaceTube?

00:29:20.820 The men are kind of sick of it, right?

00:29:22.480 This is a pain point.

00:29:23.820 That's why it went so viral because men are matching with women.

00:29:28.740 Maybe not this attractive, but the equivalent that look like this, right?

00:29:33.800 So they, they, they match.

00:29:35.120 They think they're going on a date with this and really they're going on a date with this.

00:29:41.160 Now, clearly attractive, uh, definitely, but not as attractive as they thought.

00:29:53.160 That was the whole point.

00:29:54.860 Now, I think, you know, I've been wanting to give out a award for simp of the year.

00:30:00.680 Um, I think I want to give out award simp of the year, Karen of the year, and, um, whore of the year.

00:30:09.780 Lily Phillips is getting my 304 of the year.

00:30:13.600 A hundred men in a day.

00:30:15.680 No one can top that.

00:30:17.180 You have to be a number one draft pick.

00:30:19.400 Maybe we should make like a award ceremony and a medal, you know?

00:30:24.020 Um, now Michael Knowles recently, I, he just released a video and I want to go over his response.

00:30:37.980 So let's see here.

00:30:40.360 Hi.

00:30:41.960 This is the debate that has taken over social media much.

00:30:47.020 Now, again, it's the same thing.

00:30:48.520 It's the pretty girl cries, men must rush to her, to defend her honor, right?

00:30:56.060 My Twitter feed is Sydney Sweeney hot.

00:30:58.860 And people can't agree on this question.

00:31:00.820 Well, they agree on the question.

00:31:02.100 They can't agree on the answer.

00:31:04.260 I must weigh in.

00:31:05.860 I have very strong opinions on this debate.

00:31:08.180 I am not going to wade into the substantive matter all that much.

00:31:13.660 I'm not going to make some impassioned case for why or why not Sydney Sweeney is hot.

00:31:17.980 Because I find that untoward because I'm a married man.

00:31:21.100 And that's just not the sort of thing a respectable fellow would do.

00:31:24.060 However, I will make one cultural observation.

00:31:28.400 Why the is Sydney Sweeney hot debate matters.

00:31:31.580 And that is this whole debate.

00:31:34.300 The fact that the debate is taking place is proof of widespread addiction.

00:31:39.540 I think that's really what lies at the heart of this.

00:31:42.440 And you know, again, it's the same pattern, right?

00:31:44.540 Men say, hey, she's.

00:31:47.020 One of the tweets that went viral was from Nuclear Caudillo.

00:31:53.980 And he said, all women are catfishes just to what degree?

00:32:01.200 So he didn't call her ugly.

00:32:03.080 He didn't say unattractive.

00:32:04.620 But I think objectively, she is a catfish.

00:32:09.260 Now, I don't think, I think she's a 6.5.

00:32:14.140 I think that's fair.

00:32:14.900 Seven.

00:32:15.520 I'd say seven.

00:32:17.000 And she can go to an eight or a nine.

00:32:20.700 Is that fair?

00:32:21.880 Maybe a six to an eight, depending on what your type is.

00:32:24.420 Maybe you're into Asians.

00:32:25.340 I don't know.

00:32:25.780 But to say that's corn addiction, I don't think men have that high of standards.

00:32:38.100 I mean, guys in the chat, you let me know.

00:32:40.380 Do you guys need a woman hotter than Sydney Sweeney?

00:32:44.600 I mean, would Sydney Sweeney be good enough for you?

00:32:48.060 Would that be enough?

00:32:50.520 But the reason this went viral, he's completely off.

00:32:53.720 It's because it hit a pain point, because men can relate to being catfished.

00:33:00.540 And this would be super common when I did my show.

00:33:03.320 So if you guys don't know, I moved to England to play volleyball, did a show on the side where

00:33:08.060 I interviewed a thousand women in like one and a half, two years.

00:33:12.880 And women would come on the show and they would follow me after on Instagram.

00:33:17.140 So like they would say, follow me back or whatever.

00:33:19.500 And back then I was more charitable with my follow.

00:33:22.160 So, you know, I'd follow and there would be times where I didn't know who they were because

00:33:29.420 they looked so different.

00:33:32.480 And it actually they get so delusional where women think they look like the Internet version

00:33:40.080 of themselves.

00:33:40.760 And that's where you get the, you know, women that are, you know, five, six, seven, eights

00:33:46.700 saying they deserve 10 in men because online they can attract that.

00:33:51.380 Right.

00:33:51.860 So online they can get that caliber of guy or get attention.

00:33:57.260 But it's not real.

00:33:59.100 Right.

00:33:59.680 You know, if you face tune your waist to be smaller, men in real life still see the gut.

00:34:05.540 You know, don't need to just take my word for it.

00:34:07.700 You can also take the credibility and the authority of Jean Baudrillard, who's a sociologist,

00:34:15.680 a postmodern philosopher.

00:34:17.660 We've mentioned him on this show before.

00:34:19.900 You might recall, I don't know, two years ago, three years ago, I had a great commentator

00:34:23.960 vocal distance.

00:34:24.980 I got to give you sympathy year, Michael.

00:34:26.900 I think, you know, the NALA interview, the doubling down on the NALA interview and now

00:34:33.720 this you might be I'm going to have to do an award ceremony.

00:34:38.460 I'm going to have to do it.

00:34:40.720 I think I'm going to give, you know, medals.

00:34:43.800 If you guys want me to go to the audacity network dot com.

00:34:46.700 I got a fundraise for these trophies.

00:34:48.820 I really want to go.

00:34:50.300 Maybe I'll invite them.

00:34:51.580 It'll be a whole event.

00:34:53.260 Simp of the year, horror of the year, Karen of the year.

00:34:59.400 Who would you guys put as Karen of the year?

00:35:02.620 Who would?

00:35:05.480 Who would you guys put?

00:35:06.660 Let me know in the chat.

00:35:07.780 Maybe we can vote.

00:35:08.980 Oh, my gosh, that could be fun.

00:35:11.220 That could be fun.

00:35:12.300 And he was discussing Baudrillard's theory of hyperreality.

00:35:17.520 And the analogy he used was, he said, you know, in ancient days, people ate strawberries.

00:35:22.840 Look, you guys got to you guys got to go to the website.

00:35:25.120 They're saying do it.

00:35:26.240 Do you know how expensive it is to put on an award ceremony in that little of time?

00:35:30.580 I have one person here.

00:35:31.940 One.

00:35:33.160 If you guys want you want me to go all out, it could be virtual.

00:35:36.200 I mean, that's cheaper.

00:35:37.540 I'm just saying, you know, go to the audacity network dot com and I will read your comments.

00:35:41.760 And they said, well, the strawberry tastes really good.

00:35:44.060 And then over time, they said, you know, the strawberry is so good, but I want even more

00:35:47.720 of the strawberry, you know, even more potent form.

00:35:50.560 So they made strawberry jam.

00:35:52.320 And then over the years, they said, oh, this jam, it's not enough.

00:35:55.040 I want to I want to make a strawberry candy.

00:35:58.020 OK, I'm going to have a strawberry candy.

00:35:59.880 No, even that it's not it's not hardcore.

00:36:02.660 And sure.

00:36:03.000 And then they said, no, even that's not enough.

00:36:04.840 I want a strawberry jolly rancher flavored soda.

00:36:08.860 And by the time you reach the end of this process.

00:36:13.540 People really like the strawberry jolly rancher flavored soda.

00:36:16.540 But if they actually picked up a regular old strawberry, they wouldn't recognize it.

00:36:19.960 What is this?

00:36:20.580 This isn't.

00:36:21.020 And why is this simping again?

00:36:22.960 He is about to say that men are the picky ones.

00:36:26.520 I don't know, guys.

00:36:27.660 Tell me about your standards.

00:36:29.220 How high are they?

00:36:31.040 I mean, do you expect like homemade bread from scratch?

00:36:34.260 Are you guys expecting that?

00:36:36.820 Do you guys expect you even expect Sidney Sweeney level hot?

00:36:41.760 Like what would be good enough for you?

00:36:44.520 What would be what would be?

00:36:46.660 They said very low.

00:36:49.200 Says no standards at all.

00:36:52.720 Someone said just nice to me.

00:36:55.200 What are your standards?

00:36:56.580 You know what I mean?

00:36:57.220 I don't even know what this is.

00:36:58.440 That that the you you've distilled the essence of the thing down so far that it now bears very little resemblance to the actual thing that you started with.

00:37:08.300 I was thinking about Baudrillard, not just because of our conversation with vocal distance or not just because of hyper reality.

00:37:15.040 But Baudrillard wrote a book about seduction.

00:37:17.700 I think this helps to explain.

00:37:19.160 Now, this is the issue when you get people that have been married for a long time and don't really know what's going on.

00:37:24.180 They go to books for their sources instead of like real life.

00:37:30.160 And they miss a lot.

00:37:31.800 That's why the red pill has discovered things way before academia.

00:37:37.560 Because like before the academics do, because they go on their real life experiences where a lot of these guys explain this stuff in the abstract.

00:37:47.080 And why people are confused.

00:37:49.020 You want me to get Karen of the year?

00:37:50.800 I'll take it.

00:37:51.540 I'll take it.

00:37:53.900 It's fine.

00:37:55.360 Someone said Candace Owens.

00:37:57.880 I don't think I could give I don't think I could give myself the award.

00:38:02.800 Yeah.

00:38:02.980 Anyway, let me know your nominations.

00:38:06.280 About whether or not Sidney Sweeney, who is manifestly a rather pretty lass, whether or not she's attractive.

00:38:13.180 He wrote this book about seduction.

00:38:14.520 So this is think about this.

00:38:15.940 He's finger wagging at the men and he's saying, find her attractive.

00:38:20.400 You are not allowed to say she's men.

00:38:23.400 Find her attractive.

00:38:25.640 And he focused a lot of it on.

00:38:29.960 He said.

00:38:31.740 Promotes female pleasure in so exaggerated a manner.

00:38:35.300 Only in order to better bury the uncertainty that hovers over the black continent of femininity.

00:38:41.780 He says that the female is a principle of uncertainty.

00:38:45.440 He views being male as a principle of production.

00:38:51.040 That's what lies at the essence of masculinity, of being a male.

00:38:55.580 Go to good ranchers dot com.

00:38:57.140 Use code Knowles.

00:38:57.840 I will not.

00:38:58.720 This.

00:39:00.460 Good ranchers sponsor me.

00:39:03.240 Does anyone want to spot?

00:39:04.700 Look it.

00:39:05.480 If you guys have a company and you want to sponsor the award ceremony, I'll do it.

00:39:10.180 I'll do it.

00:39:11.100 I'll do Karen of the year.

00:39:12.400 Simp of the year.

00:39:14.000 I got to think of some other ones.

00:39:15.380 Let me put them in the chat.

00:39:17.140 Let me skip this ad, though.

00:39:21.260 There we go.

00:39:21.960 Chest hair sticking out that that what transvestitism is about is not so much the seduction.

00:39:28.120 Someone wants Matt Walsh to be nominated for Karen of the year or the biggest fumble of the year.

00:39:35.120 Who killed their career this year?

00:39:38.400 Who who tanked?

00:39:41.220 Right.

00:39:42.000 I my mine would be Lauren Chen, because I don't know what can take it more than getting money from Russia.

00:39:48.540 I mean, that's a pretty big L.

00:39:50.060 Biggest L of the year.

00:39:51.340 Of another person as the seduction of signs and symbols of.

00:39:55.540 I mean, we just to bring it back down.

00:39:57.380 Destiny.

00:39:59.160 Hawk to Earth.

00:40:00.100 That's a good one.

00:40:00.940 Earth.

00:40:01.580 We can we can see that kind of strawberry jolly rancher milkshake, you know, hyper reality process taking place.

00:40:08.260 The drag queen is so exaggerated a caricature of a female that the drag queen is almost unrecognizable from the female.

00:40:19.280 Or the what what what being a female actually is, is basically unrecognizable.

00:40:23.900 If you were to look at a drag queen, it's so exaggerated.

00:40:26.420 When people get really into or into any kind of hyper real distillation of something.

00:40:33.540 They they become perverts, you know, their tastes just become so weird.

00:40:38.720 They need the the jolly rancher flavored soda.

00:40:42.360 They no longer want a strawberry.

00:40:44.920 They no longer can even recognize a strawberry.

00:40:48.240 A line from Baudrillard seduction perhaps is only an allegory.

00:40:52.660 That is to say a forcing of science, a baroque enterprise of over signification touching on the grotesque.

00:41:00.140 The obscenity itself burns and consumes its object.

00:41:04.360 I think that's what this comes down to.

00:41:05.780 If one cannot recognize that Sidney Sweeney possesses a kind of attractiveness, it is probably because one has so burned out one's censors on and I don't even just mean literal.

00:41:18.860 So he's saying if you don't find Sidney Sweeney hot, you have burned out your censors.

00:41:27.560 Maybe she's just not their type.

00:41:30.400 Maybe they like big booty Latinas, Michael.

00:41:33.080 I don't know.

00:41:33.680 Maybe they like the Asian women, you know, guys have different things they find attractive, just like women.

00:41:39.940 But this would never happen if I said and I'll say it.

00:41:44.300 Who's a guy celebrity I think is overrated?

00:41:49.380 I can't think any of any off the top of my head.

00:41:51.980 I'm sure there's some, though, that I would say unattractive, not for me.

00:41:57.520 And it really wouldn't be that big of a deal.

00:41:59.920 And the men wouldn't find it that big of a deal.

00:42:02.060 There wouldn't be an outcry, right?

00:42:03.560 Like if I said, I'm not going to say it because he's pretty good looking.

00:42:07.540 But like if I said Brad Pitt, unattractive, ugly, you gross, nobody would care.

00:42:14.780 They would say, yeah, well, oh, well.

00:42:18.980 And Brad Pitt wouldn't freak out.

00:42:21.300 He would not post, you know, because Sidney Sweeney responded to all of this and posted pictures of her working out to, you know, show the haters.

00:42:29.680 Brad Pitt wouldn't respond.

00:42:31.300 He wouldn't care.

00:42:34.740 It wouldn't be this huge spectacle.

00:42:36.680 But because pretty woman, say pretty woman, isn't that pretty.

00:42:41.340 Now it's World War III.

00:42:42.860 I mean, the overstimulation of our culture, the saturation with caricature and grotesquerie, the culture has become just so decadent that, well, you see this every year.

00:42:55.280 There's surveys that come out about the top terms they're searched for.

00:42:59.660 And they always become weirder and weirder and more grotesque.

00:43:03.440 At a certain point, they don't even seem like they're connected to sex at all.

00:43:08.400 I remember there was a Supreme Court case that came up.

00:43:11.000 This was now 10, 15 years ago.

00:43:12.340 And it was about a type of that involved just torturing kittens, you know, viewer discretion advice.

00:43:20.880 Well, certainly for for that kind of but even this discussion, it involved torturing poor little animals.

00:43:26.060 And what was so striking about the cases, it had nothing to do with sex.

00:43:30.900 And yet it was a type of it was this hyper real bizarre kind of perversion.

00:43:36.400 And I think that's basically where the culture leads you as a as a barometer.

00:43:41.160 If you cannot find a glamorous Hollywood starlet of perfectly ordinary glamour, common glamour, but glamour nonetheless, attractive.

00:43:55.240 Something's gone wrong with your brain.

00:43:57.340 Yeah, if you don't find her attractive, something's wrong with you.

00:44:00.660 They're always, always, always shaming male sexuality.

00:44:04.760 Always.

00:44:05.300 It's always the corn addiction.

00:44:06.700 And the equivalent, nobody would care.

00:44:14.340 But again, guys, you know, I am fighting really hard on this simpidemic.

00:44:20.840 I really.

00:44:26.960 I really.

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00:46:06.480 My name, Pearl, is the coupon code.

00:46:08.840 Thank you guys.

00:46:10.120 Okay, so next on the agenda.

00:46:14.700 Now, this...

00:46:19.740 This fight went even further into conservative Twitter.

00:46:25.880 Now, as you guys know, we have this issue of the ladies tweeting their selfies to prove that they still got it.

00:46:36.280 These will be, you know, happily married women in relationships that need to prove to me or other members of the RP movement that they are still attractive.

00:46:47.020 And it's really, really a sad thing, if I'm being honest.

00:46:51.980 I can't imagine, you know, living my life and going online and finding out my mother is arguing with some random red pill guys proving that she's still got it.

00:47:10.440 So, this woman named the red-headed libertarian, she has me blocked.

00:47:18.000 Don't know why.

00:47:18.860 Anyway, she tweets her selfies.

00:47:24.080 Now, she says, if the men, like, you know...

00:47:28.420 And she's saying, if the men find out that we can shapeshift, they're going to tell the church.

00:47:39.100 Now, this is a woman that makes money off the traditional conservative brand, right?

00:47:44.140 Now, does this look like a modest married woman's selfie?

00:47:53.720 By the way, I don't care.

00:47:55.780 I don't...

00:47:56.020 But, you know, it just makes it a little worse.

00:47:57.780 It's like...

00:47:59.360 Like, the boobs are clearly the focus.

00:48:03.540 Cross necklace, heavy makeup.

00:48:05.940 I'm not saying...

00:48:06.760 Like, I don't think...

00:48:07.920 You know, I'm not a Puritan.

00:48:09.960 It is what it is.

00:48:11.160 You know, I don't really care.

00:48:12.620 But it's the inconsistencies, right?

00:48:16.540 And it's the...

00:48:18.560 Marriage is the solving of the problems with doing this.

00:48:24.820 You know, we're just, like, the worst marketing.

00:48:27.100 Now, Nuclear Caudillo goes in and says, all women are catfishes.

00:48:30.960 The question is, to what degree?

00:48:33.700 And this is, you know, a picture from, like, a video.

00:48:40.160 Now, clearly, she looks like...

00:48:42.560 This looks like two different people.

00:48:44.240 I don't...

00:48:47.100 And to prove that she still has it, she writes an essay...

00:48:57.120 Wait, hold on.

00:48:58.920 Let me find the first one.

00:48:59.960 An essay trying to prove...

00:49:05.520 Oh, wait, here.

00:49:06.240 I screenshotted it.

00:49:07.960 She writes an essay trying to prove that she's still got it.

00:49:12.540 Now, again, I don't care.

00:49:15.440 But she says, they always grab screenshots of me in the middle of a sentence to prove that I am ugly.

00:49:21.760 I'm a public figure, you retard.

00:49:24.140 Everyone knows what I look like.

00:49:25.740 This is my interview with Matt Kibble from back in January, and everyone should check it out.

00:49:30.360 I'm adorable here, by the way.

00:49:32.480 Now, I'm just thinking.

00:49:33.480 Now, remember, like, she's got kids, so think of little Jimmy at home.

00:49:37.040 Now, Jimmy at home is hanging out, and then he gets a phone call, and his phone call is from his friend Brad.

00:49:43.520 Now, Brad says, hey, did you see your mom on Twitter?

00:49:47.020 She's arguing with this rant, still hot.

00:49:51.000 You know, I just say, send the asteroid.

00:49:53.160 Okay.

00:49:55.740 Please send the asteroid.

00:49:57.260 It's just, it's over.

00:49:59.320 And then she sent even more.

00:50:02.040 She blocked me, so sometimes it's tough to get the...

00:50:06.600 Let me find the rest.

00:50:12.480 Totally get the catfishing.

00:50:14.260 Is the Adam's apple in your profile to prove you're a dude because you have a weak-ass jawline suggests otherwise?

00:50:20.540 I blocked you to cut off your views.

00:50:22.380 You reach on your post will drop tremendously now.

00:50:25.240 You did earn about $3.

00:50:27.360 I implore you to invest in help.

00:50:29.640 Again, it's shaming male sexuality.

00:50:32.240 It's saying, find me hot.

00:50:35.020 This is what the ladies say.

00:50:36.380 They say, I want to join the internet, right?

00:50:40.460 Which is fine, right?

00:50:41.860 I'm here.

00:50:42.360 This is a fun time.

00:50:43.580 Look it.

00:50:44.060 We're having a great time.

00:50:45.100 So they say, let me join.

00:50:47.040 And their husbands, they're like, whatever.

00:50:49.680 She's kind of annoying me.

00:50:52.960 I mean, this will...

00:50:54.000 Yeah.

00:50:54.300 Go ahead, dear.

00:50:55.720 Whatever.

00:50:56.040 And they say, I want to join the part of Twitter that's the most contentious, where there's the most fighting, the most vicious.

00:51:05.780 Totally fine.

00:51:06.380 You know, I'm here.

00:51:08.200 I'm not judging it, right?

00:51:09.700 I'm just...

00:51:10.120 I'm explaining what's going on.

00:51:12.060 And so they say, let me march into the most contentious part of Twitter, where everyone's arguing.

00:51:18.780 And let me go here.

00:51:20.340 And then they say, find me hot.

00:51:22.600 And if the men say, eh, if the men say, meh, if the men say, mid, then they get angry.

00:51:34.220 They get angry, and then they start yelling at the men and saying, find me hot or you have a corn addiction.

00:51:48.140 I mean, she looks good for her age.

00:51:49.960 She's pushing 40.

00:51:50.860 I'm not hating.

00:51:52.600 But it's just weird.

00:51:56.060 It's very...

00:51:56.700 Like, I don't...

00:51:58.980 And they don't know it, but these ladies are the worst marketing for marriage.

00:52:03.740 Because the young guys are looking at this, right?

00:52:06.020 And they're saying, okay, let me get married.

00:52:08.340 And they say, oh, look at those...

00:52:10.240 They say they're, like, conservative women.

00:52:13.420 They look amazing.

00:52:14.740 And then they see the conservative wives arguing with random men on Twitter.

00:52:19.240 And they say, mm...

00:52:22.600 Mm, I don't know about this.

00:52:26.000 Anyways.

00:52:27.900 So we have very bad marketing right now.

00:52:31.940 Now, as women, we have to understand that we're just not doing the greatest job of selling ourselves.

00:52:38.700 You know, we're in the news constantly for doing crazy things.

00:52:42.720 An example of that is Lily Phillips.

00:52:44.420 We've covered her, like, a million times this week, so I'm not going to go too far back.

00:52:48.580 But, you know, she's sleeping with a thousand men in a day.

00:52:51.820 And that's the marketing we have right now.

00:52:54.480 You know, okay, I'm not saying every woman does that, obviously.

00:52:58.560 But this is what's making the news.

00:53:01.820 This is what's making the headlines.

00:53:03.460 And by the way, it's only going to get worse.

00:53:05.580 I don't see it getting better.

00:53:08.240 Now, there is a recent trend where women are showing themselves with a boyfriend and with no boyfriend.

00:53:17.180 And they essentially are marketing, again, that in relationships, they will look uglier.

00:53:25.060 I mean, like, I don't know why we do these trends.

00:53:28.720 I'm like, what are you trying to sell here?

00:53:30.800 That you're going to look worse when the men start dating you?

00:53:34.520 So this is a woman, and she says boyfriend.

00:53:37.760 That's her.

00:53:40.400 No boyfriend.

00:53:41.480 Now, I think it's like makeup, plastic surgery.

00:53:48.920 I think she got a nose job.

00:53:50.200 I think that's the biggest thing.

00:53:53.280 Now, maybe a filter.

00:53:55.640 I don't know.

00:53:56.900 Then next, we have this woman, right?

00:54:04.320 Boyfriend.

00:54:07.560 No boyfriend.

00:54:08.760 And then the ladies come in, the trad women say, why don't the men want to get married?

00:54:15.740 I mean, we're awesome.

00:54:18.060 And then the other ladies are like, this is what you're going to get in a relationship?

00:54:25.100 This is what you're going to get when I'm not.

00:54:27.300 Oh, the Jesus cross.

00:54:28.620 They're, of course, you know.

00:54:32.480 Then we have another one here.

00:54:35.580 Okay.

00:54:38.760 Boyfriend?

00:54:41.880 No boyfriend.

00:54:42.900 I mean, she kind of looks the same.

00:54:44.880 But what are we doing, ladies?

00:54:49.720 I don't.

00:54:51.360 This is the worst marketing campaign we've ever had.

00:54:54.720 And we do it to ourselves.

00:54:56.180 The men don't even have to negatively market.

00:54:58.680 We just, we get together and say, how can we dissuade men from being with us?

00:55:05.740 How can we do the worst PR campaign humanly possible?

00:55:13.420 And yeah, I mean, we just really outdo ourselves every month.

00:55:17.300 And by the way, I just want to thank you guys because you ladies keep me employed forever.

00:55:21.920 I will always have a job.

00:55:25.280 I will always have, like, thank you so much, ladies, because you give me a plethora of things to cover.

00:55:33.180 You know what?

00:55:34.020 So I can't even be mad at you guys.

00:55:36.100 I really can't.

00:55:36.920 So, okay, let me see if I'm going to, so the main topic of today is I am going to invite a woman onto my show who disagrees with me.

00:55:48.880 We're a little ahead of schedule, so I'm going to check really quick.

00:55:52.920 She's not on yet, right?

00:55:54.340 Yeah.

00:55:54.680 No, I didn't think so.

00:55:55.500 I'm going to say you can come on now.

00:55:58.700 I didn't think I would get, if you can't, didn't think I would get here.

00:56:03.320 But let me just react, I guess, while we wait to, let's see what we got.

00:56:16.720 Oh, actually, someone sent me.

00:56:18.240 I'm going to react to something.

00:56:19.480 If you guys have anything, send it to me on Twitter.

00:56:21.820 I'm going to react to something one of my followers sent me.

00:56:26.040 Let me see.

00:56:28.700 There was a pretty good video.

00:56:34.240 Where is it?

00:56:35.180 Link here.

00:56:43.720 I saw one, which was, I guess I can't find it.

00:56:48.220 Let's react to a Kevin Samuels clip.

00:56:51.900 Just for good time's sake.

00:56:54.540 I just think it'll be fun.

00:56:56.260 Let's, let's do it for, you know, just for, because he is the goat.

00:57:02.240 Let's look at his best and savage moments.

00:57:07.140 With women or whatnot.

00:57:08.760 So I don't know.

00:57:09.640 So if you guys don't know, I'll tell you guys.

00:57:12.180 I really, I forget how many new people I have watching me.

00:57:15.000 So Kevin Samuels had a call-in show where women would ask him for relationship advice.

00:57:21.080 And this was partially how the manosphere like became mainstream.

00:57:26.160 But unfortunately, he was one of my main people I wanted to interview, but he passed away.

00:57:30.400 I was really sad.

00:57:31.320 But he was so funny.

00:57:35.440 I used to love his show.

00:57:37.920 I guess he has like trust issues with women or whatnot.

00:57:40.500 So I'm like sharing my location with him just to make him feel comfortable.

00:57:44.180 Are you, have you had any therapy?

00:57:48.320 Yes, I have.

00:57:49.560 You need to go back.

00:57:51.860 Oh my gosh, really?

00:57:53.500 You're already trying to make him feel comfortable two weeks into it.

00:57:59.060 Right.

00:58:00.040 It's too much proving to do.

00:58:01.920 You're not his, you're not his wife.

00:58:03.480 I'm just being nice and being like, Hey, like, no, it's not.

00:58:06.680 No, no, it's not being nice.

00:58:08.320 It's being a people pleaser.

00:58:10.260 That's not normal.

00:58:11.520 That's not normal.

00:58:12.940 You want to be nice.

00:58:13.840 All right.

00:58:14.220 Let's go out a couple of times.

00:58:15.360 I need you to give me $10,000.

00:58:16.920 Be nice.

00:58:19.220 Oh, be, be nice.

00:58:20.760 I mean, come on, be nice.

00:58:22.060 I mean, come on, be nice.

00:58:23.080 I need $10,000 and we need to go ahead and run the soul trainer.

00:58:26.240 Be nice.

00:58:26.840 No.

00:58:27.380 Of course.

00:58:27.880 So, so, so there are things that sound crazy to you.

00:58:31.060 Yeah.

00:58:31.840 Yeah.

00:58:32.100 Sharing your location with somebody you've gone out with twice is crazy.

00:58:37.280 Okay.

00:58:40.560 I give myself a solid 9.8.

00:58:43.860 What would you guys give her in the chat?

00:58:45.760 She says a nine point.

00:58:49.940 Look at her face.

00:58:56.900 A three.

00:58:59.060 He didn't even have to say anything.

00:59:00.520 Being pretty is not enough for a lot of men because I'm pretty and I'm still single.

00:59:04.780 So.

00:59:06.000 What do you want?

00:59:06.780 I don't, I don't, I don't know.

00:59:12.320 I really don't know what I want because these men, they don't know what they want.

00:59:16.540 A lot of men don't know what they want in women.

00:59:18.420 Hmm.

00:59:18.840 And you said you're how old again?

00:59:20.260 33.

00:59:21.600 33.

00:59:22.860 So regardless as to what men want, you don't know what you want?

00:59:27.600 I mean, I know what I want, but.

00:59:29.860 What is that?

00:59:32.920 Guys, remember the first thing I said about ego?

00:59:34.540 Hell, they're not willing to be honest.

00:59:37.340 Be honest with you.

00:59:38.380 I ain't gonna lie.

00:59:38.920 I don't know what I want in a man.

00:59:40.480 Like I've been screwed and fucked for so long.

00:59:43.140 I don't know what I want in a man.

00:59:44.620 Just in this little bit of time of talking to you, it's been chaotic.

00:59:48.360 I'm just asking you just the basic stuff about who you are and what you want.

00:59:53.100 And the way you told the story is.

00:59:57.360 Yeah.

00:59:58.020 You can't make this shit up, people.

00:59:59.620 To let you know, I have completely taken my life and made a 360.

01:00:06.840 The 360 puts you right back where you were, but I understand what you're saying.

01:00:10.000 I made a 180.

01:00:11.820 I found Lord and I got a man that's got money now.

01:00:16.380 You found the Lord?

01:00:18.100 Yeah.

01:00:18.840 Where'd you find the man?

01:00:19.720 I didn't know he was lost.

01:00:21.020 I didn't know where the Lord was.

01:00:22.700 Hmm.

01:00:23.180 Okay.

01:00:23.520 This is all inside of the last four months, right?

01:00:26.780 Three months, four months.

01:00:28.080 Yeah.

01:00:29.380 It's a lot of changing in three or four months.

01:00:31.320 You said you got a man that has money now.

01:00:33.920 Yeah.

01:00:36.840 I do.

01:00:37.920 I just wanted to let you know also, I wear my bonnet in public.

01:00:41.980 I saw what you had to say about that.

01:00:44.840 You know, I get where you're coming from, but at the same time, like...

01:00:49.020 You can't make this shit up.

01:00:50.400 Hmm?

01:00:51.380 At the same time, you what?

01:00:53.360 Did you tell me to shut up?

01:00:54.920 No, no, no.

01:00:55.640 I said, go ahead.

01:00:56.380 You said, at the same time?

01:00:58.720 At the same time, I just don't see what the issue of wearing a bonnet in public is.

01:01:05.900 I got married, but I don't want to be...

01:01:08.560 Oh, this was the worst one.

01:01:10.980 Oh, I remember this.

01:01:12.140 You got married?

01:01:13.680 Yeah.

01:01:14.580 You're currently married?

01:01:16.000 Yes.

01:01:16.860 Oh.

01:01:17.300 Yeah.

01:01:17.800 No, no, no.

01:01:19.240 Oh, you got to be kidding me.

01:01:24.120 Ma'am, are you trolling me?

01:01:27.780 No, I'm not.

01:01:29.240 A platform with a million folks actively talking about leaving your husband to get back with

01:01:34.560 your ex.

01:01:35.180 Because he's high value, and I look like...

01:01:38.040 And the reason you want to break your covenant with God and wreck your home of the pipe fitter

01:01:47.640 guy is because the previous guy was higher value, meaning he earns more money?

01:01:53.600 Yeah, and his social status, how he looks.

01:01:58.480 What would the world say about that man?

01:02:00.200 It would say that this woman he got back with is the one he's always wanted.

01:02:06.460 She belongs to the streets.

01:02:10.280 Yeah, this woman called into a show, said she was married and wanted her ex-boyfriend back,

01:02:16.740 and her husband still stayed with her.

01:02:20.740 It's a sympademic, guys.

01:02:23.420 It really is.

01:02:24.660 These, um, excuse my French niggas alone, they always want to take me to court.

01:02:32.980 Yeah.

01:02:34.700 What does that mean?

01:02:37.060 It means that it's like when I break up with a guy, I go through divorces because they can't

01:02:43.260 take me leaving them in the dust, in the dirt, where I left them at.

01:02:48.780 Because they don't act right, so I have to move on.

01:02:52.520 Is that right?

01:02:53.180 Do you think that that's right of them?

01:02:55.500 Why are you so, why are you, why are you such a poor judge of character to pick me and

01:02:58.980 you got to leave?

01:03:00.640 We're in that bag, I couldn't believe you.

01:03:02.020 Oh, damn.

01:03:03.680 Oh, damn.

01:03:05.040 Why are you such a poor judge?

01:03:06.580 No, ma'am.

01:03:07.300 No, ma'am, I listened to what you said.

01:03:09.100 You came in talking about how you feel like you're in divorce court because you got to

01:03:12.600 leave these men in the dirt, and all I hear is you're a shit judge of character

01:03:15.660 picking men because you don't leave quality men.

01:03:18.360 You absolutely right, so God, please stop telling me.

01:03:21.020 That's right.

01:03:21.340 No, no, God ain't got nothing to do with it.

01:03:24.480 No, God ain't got nothing to do with it.

01:03:25.780 Please don't bring my God into this.

01:03:27.780 Please don't bring my God into this.

01:03:29.980 He was unaware of that, so I like immediately divorced him because children was the outcome

01:03:37.740 that I wanted to have.

01:03:38.840 Oh, it is what it is.

01:03:41.160 It is what it is.

01:03:43.160 It was terrible, but like I told him from the beginning, I got married so we could have

01:03:49.900 children, and then he found out he couldn't have children after we got married.

01:03:54.220 So, now, exact, I know, that's what, I do know that.

01:03:58.320 It is terrible.

01:03:59.120 I'm not, it is, I'm, like I said, I'll-

01:04:01.680 So, I'm asking seriously, ma'am, it's not really a value judgment as much as, I'm just

01:04:06.460 trying to hold a mirror up to you because you say this shit, the shit you say to people

01:04:11.840 around you, and they let you believe this stuff.

01:04:13.660 I'm telling you, there's somebody who's got no dog in the fight.

01:04:15.760 How old are you?

01:04:21.820 35.

01:04:23.340 I play in all types of arenas.

01:04:30.300 I work in those arenas.

01:04:33.340 I work in all of those.

01:04:36.880 Okay, how about this?

01:04:37.820 Do me a favor.

01:04:38.700 Okay.

01:04:39.500 Talk to me like I'm four or a Cocker Spaniel because you're not really saying anything.

01:04:42.940 And you said you how old again?

01:04:48.720 I will let you guess.

01:04:50.480 I don't play those games.

01:04:52.560 You either answer my questions or I'll bid you a good night.

01:04:55.120 43.

01:04:56.620 Okay.

01:04:57.060 One thing I don't do is I don't do these things.

01:04:59.720 I don't know you, so you've been married to-

01:05:02.300 We all know this.

01:05:03.460 Keep going.

01:05:04.580 I will say this, though.

01:05:08.300 You've gone from 35 to 43, just like that.

01:05:11.260 That's amazing.

01:05:11.900 I did, didn't I?

01:05:13.460 Yeah.

01:05:16.000 This is crazy.

01:05:18.260 I don't like the fires.

01:05:21.480 Kevin Samuels was actually the go.

01:05:24.560 I miss him so much.

01:05:26.440 I wish he didn't pass away.

01:05:27.540 He was such a good-

01:05:30.900 Lila Rose is doing a live stream on Lily Phillips right now.

01:05:34.560 Lila Rose.

01:05:38.940 I'm going to bring up someone in a second, but I do want to see that.

01:05:42.640 I guess that's for tomorrow, fellas.

01:05:46.180 Okay.

01:05:46.580 All right, so guys, so on Twitter, I gave a open call.

01:05:51.660 I said, anybody that's got disagreements with me, you are welcome to call into my show and

01:05:55.740 talk about our disagreements.

01:05:57.420 I think this is really important because if I'm going to say these things, I do want to

01:06:05.460 back them up.

01:06:06.060 There was a nice young woman who messaged me on Twitter and said that she had some disagreements

01:06:11.720 with me, and I decided, why not?

01:06:14.140 Let's do it at the end of a live show, and we can go through them today.

01:06:18.400 Okay, so today I have Keturah Hickman.

01:06:28.780 It's all right.

01:06:29.540 Sorry.

01:06:32.300 I was like, I was like, I don't, I don't want to mispronounce this, or Shagbark's wife coming

01:06:37.760 onto the show, and she gave me a list of disagreements, but hi, welcome to the show.

01:06:43.560 Nice to meet you.

01:06:45.020 Thank you.

01:06:45.660 It's very nice to be on here and to talk to you.

01:06:48.700 So where have you seen my content before?

01:06:51.260 Like, where have you mostly consumed it from?

01:06:54.260 I'm mostly on Twitter.

01:06:55.720 I don't really watch a lot of YouTube.

01:06:58.300 Okay.

01:06:59.220 Mostly, I don't have a smartphone, so I get on Twitter a couple times a week on my laptop.

01:07:03.680 Okay.

01:07:04.060 And where are you from?

01:07:05.720 Like, what part of the country are you in?

01:07:07.740 Yeah, I was raised in the Midwest, and then when I was 16, my family moved to Montana.

01:07:12.440 Okay.

01:07:12.700 And now I'm married to a man who travels all over the states, but we're based in upstate

01:07:17.600 New York.

01:07:18.200 Okay.

01:07:18.380 So I've been all over.

01:07:19.820 And you, if you don't mind, you said you grew up in a Christian cult?

01:07:25.660 Yeah, it's kind of considered a cult.

01:07:27.380 It's kind of Protestant, kind of messianic.

01:07:30.280 What do you mean, kind of a cult?

01:07:31.820 Sorry, I don't mean to laugh, but I'm like...

01:07:33.880 Well, everyone would consider a cult, and I kind of embrace that term just because it's

01:07:38.400 kind of edgy and fun.

01:07:39.720 Okay.

01:07:40.100 But also, I hate cults.

01:07:41.480 I think it's a slur that people use against certain Christian sects just to disvalue, like,

01:07:48.380 their beliefs.

01:07:49.100 So I embrace it, but we're definitely very niche.

01:07:52.500 We're, like, ex-Pentecostal kind of Jew, but very Christian, but very into the Old Testament.

01:07:57.280 But now my husband's Catholic, and I've had a lot of, like, frustrations with, like, Protestant

01:08:02.160 Christianity, a lot growing up anyway, so it was very easy for me to transition into Catholicism,

01:08:06.500 even though I was raised in a very, very, very anti-Catholic sect.

01:08:10.640 Okay.

01:08:11.800 I'm just curious.

01:08:13.720 Was your experience positive or negative?

01:08:16.880 I know you're leaving, but was it...

01:08:19.260 It was positive.

01:08:20.540 Okay.

01:08:21.120 So you...

01:08:21.820 It was positive.

01:08:22.380 Okay, go ahead.

01:08:22.960 Yeah.

01:08:23.980 Because I was...

01:08:25.300 You know, I like to compare our family sometimes to Jews because our beliefs are very Jew-like,

01:08:31.240 even though we still accept Jesus as the Savior.

01:08:33.540 But basically, you know, when a Jewish person is very, very, like, adamant in their faith,

01:08:40.520 maybe, like, back in the old Torah days, but nowadays a secular Jew is, like, yeah, I'm a Jew,

01:08:45.280 but my faith is kind of secondary.

01:08:47.640 Well, I was fourth generation in this kind of cult, so I was at the point where my faith

01:08:52.060 was a great part of my life.

01:08:53.240 Like, I loved our traditions, but I didn't take it so seriously where I hated other people

01:08:57.540 who believed differently than me.

01:08:58.580 And I kind of was, like, why do you take it so seriously that I believe differently than

01:09:01.740 you?

01:09:01.880 Like, it's just all traditions.

01:09:03.360 We all believe in the same God, and we believe in the same Messiah.

01:09:06.000 So, like, why do you hate me for how I dress or for how I eat?

01:09:09.560 Like, that's just kind of crazy.

01:09:10.820 Is it similar to Amish?

01:09:12.840 Like, I'm just curious.

01:09:14.140 That's what I'm thinking of as you're talking.

01:09:16.880 Yeah.

01:09:17.780 It's a little similar to Amish in that we had a lot of respect for the Amish and lived

01:09:21.340 like the Amish, so we took a lot from them.

01:09:24.060 And I wore...

01:09:24.620 Like, I grew up in dresses.

01:09:25.560 I've never worn jeans.

01:09:26.920 I don't like jeans.

01:09:29.320 And I, like, believe in modesty.

01:09:30.860 Well, I actually believe in femininity more than I believe in modesty.

01:09:34.060 But I'm also...

01:09:34.900 I kind of believe in modesty, too.

01:09:36.420 Okay.

01:09:37.000 So, you gave me a list of your disagreements, and you said it's important to know your audience

01:09:43.140 and which group of women you're speaking to.

01:09:45.980 I speak to actual traditional Christian teenage girls who aren't found in the Twitter sphere.

01:09:51.640 Could you tell me a little bit more of what you meant by that point?

01:09:54.920 Yeah.

01:09:55.500 So, I feel like one of the things about your Twitter is I'll, like, be reading your Twitter

01:09:59.680 and I'm like, oh, I agree with that, or I agree with that.

01:10:01.860 Oh, but all women are bad, even though I agree with this.

01:10:04.780 And I know a lot of good women who would agree with this.

01:10:07.240 And it's like saying the right thing.

01:10:08.720 Like, in our circles, divorce is horrible.

01:10:10.980 And usually, the people who file for divorce are usually women.

01:10:14.880 And like that, that's terrible.

01:10:15.980 Your upbringing are a significant majority in the United States.

01:10:21.240 And where I have a little bit different of a perspective was I did a show where I interviewed

01:10:27.040 women, and I would have eight women at 1.6 days a week where I would go in and we would

01:10:32.040 do a panel show.

01:10:33.380 Yeah, it was really crazy.

01:10:34.400 I did this for two years.

01:10:35.520 Um, and what I would learn is a lot of these women were, took the data.

01:10:41.040 Yeah.

01:10:41.540 And I took the tweet also, I took the data from like, um, and I'm not saying one's right

01:10:46.620 or wrong.

01:10:47.060 Right.

01:10:47.360 But I took the data from like, even male conservatives, wives, just to like conservative commentators,

01:10:54.640 wives, just so I could be a little bit more fair.

01:10:56.720 It's not just the public ones.

01:10:58.260 And I still find found in terms of life decisions, they're all really similar.

01:11:04.240 Like, um, you know, if kids are delayed for a decade, I have to assume you're on some sort

01:11:08.900 of birth control, you know, like, and I'm not saying one's better or worse, but like,

01:11:14.600 that's kind of how I came to that conclusion.

01:11:16.500 Do you think that's wrong?

01:11:18.000 I don't think that's completely wrong because, so for instance, I write a lot on femininity

01:11:25.240 and dressing like a woman and acting like a woman and submitting to your husband in a

01:11:30.420 way that's like beautiful and good.

01:11:33.560 And I write against divorce.

01:11:34.880 Like, I don't think divorce should ever be an option, even in the case of adultery.

01:11:37.820 I think we're permitted to do that, but I don't think we should necessarily have it as

01:11:40.700 an option seal.

01:11:41.380 What I find out on like the traditional, uh, Twitter sphere from what I've seen, because

01:11:48.220 when I first came to Twitter, I was like, wait, there's traditional people out there

01:11:50.800 talking about traditionalism.

01:11:52.100 This is so cool because I grew up being hated for being traditional, but here people are

01:11:56.280 doing it.

01:11:56.580 And then I started to realize like, these people aren't real traditional people.

01:11:59.580 These people are all fakes.

01:12:00.580 They all converted in their twenties.

01:12:02.360 None.

01:12:02.700 Most of them didn't work raised this way.

01:12:04.620 A lot of girls who were raised this way, they, they get cognitive like feminist type things

01:12:09.180 because they don't like the idea of, uh, submission.

01:12:11.500 I had a hard time with that as a teen too.

01:12:13.540 There comes a point where you're raised in something and then you have to make the intentional

01:12:16.700 choice to actually like abide by it.

01:12:19.260 And I saw a lot of my aunts didn't like, my aunts are very different than my sisters.

01:12:22.480 I mean, they, they made the choice to like divorce their husbands and, um, not be good

01:12:28.540 mother.

01:12:28.900 How old are your aunts?

01:12:31.020 I'm just curious.

01:12:32.880 Yeah.

01:12:33.040 My aunts are in their thirties and forties and I'm, uh, 28.

01:12:37.360 So I'm actually really close in the age to some of my aunts more than I, my cousins.

01:12:40.820 I'm the oldest of like 50 or 60 cousins.

01:12:43.080 And then I have like 30 aunts and uncles.

01:12:46.160 Okay.

01:12:46.680 So I have a lot of relatives.

01:12:49.040 Yeah.

01:12:49.700 Yeah.

01:12:50.040 So I hate to say it, but you're kind of proving my point a little bit because the, the challenge,

01:12:54.560 the challenge is, you know, it's true.

01:12:57.360 We can say things like in our twenties, but like, like, you know, I always say, you know,

01:13:02.420 you put your money where your mouth is when the first, like, if we're going to push

01:13:05.480 to traditionalism, which I'm not saying one's better or worse, but I'm saying like, if that's

01:13:10.740 what you're pushing, like, where, where's the kids?

01:13:13.680 Are you going to pop out one for, you know?

01:13:16.280 Yeah.

01:13:16.500 So my point is who we look to for our role models.

01:13:18.940 So I don't look to my aunts as role models.

01:13:20.880 I look to my grandmas who both stayed through to, through very difficult marriages.

01:13:25.340 Both of their husbands would probably be considered cult leaders.

01:13:28.020 Like I'm not joking.

01:13:28.920 Like both of my grandpas are probably legit cult leaders, but my grandmas have stayed loyal to

01:13:33.340 them, even though their daughters have begged them to divorce their husband, their, their,

01:13:37.420 their fathers.

01:13:38.240 They've stayed loyal to them.

01:13:39.760 My mom and dad, who are also the oldest of both their families.

01:13:42.100 I'm also the oldest of my family.

01:13:43.160 I have 11 younger siblings.

01:13:45.080 Like I just love my grandpas.

01:13:46.360 Wow.

01:13:46.720 That's amazing.

01:13:47.780 11 younger siblings.

01:13:49.340 Yeah.

01:13:50.040 Go ahead.

01:13:50.360 Sorry.

01:13:51.580 Yeah.

01:13:52.020 No, there's a lot of children in our family, but, but I look to my grandmas as an example.

01:13:56.760 And also my mom, she's been with my dad for like, I mean, longer than I'm born.

01:14:00.920 So like what, nearly 30 years.

01:14:02.480 And my mom has been encouraged by many people to divorce her husband for like the most ridiculous

01:14:07.240 reasons.

01:14:08.440 And then I married, um, people all, all already at the start were like telling me like, Oh,

01:14:13.320 when I first got together with my husband, like basically my husband and I were, before

01:14:17.360 we were even married, we were like, we're not breaking this engagement off even like

01:14:20.180 we, we didn't even see like an option for breaking the engagement off once we decided to

01:14:23.660 be engaged kind of thing.

01:14:24.540 And people like tried so hard to separate us because of our faith differences.

01:14:28.380 Of course, I've, I, if you're like, I feel like if you marry a man who you respect and

01:14:32.760 love, you become more like him, which a lot of traditional women don't get, they still

01:14:36.940 want to keep their own identity.

01:14:37.940 They want to be feminist.

01:14:39.140 They want to keep on wearing whatever clothes that they were raised in instead of actually

01:14:42.700 learning to be more modest and more feminine.

01:14:44.220 And so I think that's mostly what I, the differences between what I'm saying between

01:14:48.600 yours and mine, like while you're saying true things, I'm like, how can we like look

01:14:53.140 to that subset of women who are doing the right thing and look to them as role models and what

01:14:57.540 is it that they're doing right?

01:14:58.560 And how are they submitting in a way that's beautiful and inspirational?

01:15:01.320 Yeah.

01:15:02.100 So what I'm not saying is that there aren't examples.

01:15:05.520 I think it's better to look in your own personal life.

01:15:08.080 Like there's someone I could think of that if I wanted advice from that I know personally that

01:15:12.760 I would go to rather than the internet.

01:15:14.760 Right.

01:15:15.620 But when I'm talking, I'm trying to predict trends.

01:15:19.540 And unfortunately, like you're kind of saying what I say, which is that women, we tend to

01:15:24.540 be a roll of the dice.

01:15:25.900 So if someone picked someone from your mom's family, like your mom sounds like a lovely woman,

01:15:30.920 right?

01:15:31.680 But if they picked your mom's sister, then they would have, you know what I'm saying?

01:15:36.680 So it's, there's no guarantees.

01:15:39.180 And the sad thing is, you know, like you're saying, men have to deal with the fact that

01:15:44.180 everybody is telling us to leave, even from, I mean, it sounds like almost Amish, right?

01:15:51.620 Yeah.

01:15:52.320 You know, so it's not, I don't mean to be pessimistic, but I have to make predictions into the future.

01:15:59.440 And I don't see the birth rate going up and I don't see traditional values getting better

01:16:06.400 sat, unfortunately.

01:16:08.340 Right.

01:16:09.520 I guess that's actually a good, a good point between like how I feel like my vision with

01:16:15.020 what I do versus yours.

01:16:16.180 Like you're more like, like you said, talking about trends and predictions, whereas I'm looking

01:16:20.180 to like the few women who I think are actually like salvageable.

01:16:23.480 I'm like, Hey, I think, I think that you and I should be buddies and like this, try to be

01:16:28.080 better wives and better mothers.

01:16:29.300 And like, no matter, like this, ignore the static statistics.

01:16:32.040 Let's not be one of the statistics.

01:16:33.320 Does this be that minority of woman kind of thing?

01:16:35.920 Yeah.

01:16:36.180 And so the sad thing is I, the thing is when I interview women at different ages, you start

01:16:43.260 to see trends that that's why I was kind of asking you, like, how old are you?

01:16:46.780 You know, you, you, like you, I feel the like light in your eyes still, you're very happy

01:16:51.980 and bubbly.

01:16:52.660 And that that's very common with like young women.

01:16:55.460 Right.

01:16:56.240 But then the, the problem is there tends to be in their thirties, a round of divorces,

01:17:02.280 you know, like you were talking about and you see women that in their twenties were like

01:17:07.200 happy and as bubbly and like, you know, I'll give you a public example, but there's ones

01:17:12.180 I know in my personal life too.

01:17:13.980 Right.

01:17:14.660 Like Lauren Southern, do you know her?

01:17:16.780 She might be, she was a very big right-wing commentator and she left the internet to

01:17:22.260 go be traditional.

01:17:23.420 Right.

01:17:23.920 She like got married, left.

01:17:25.420 And then two years later, she comes back divorced and abused, you know, like makes it.

01:17:32.340 And it's like, I see these things and I'm like, I can't not, you know, I can't not predict

01:17:38.060 that most people will be statistics.

01:17:40.020 I could say like Brett Cooper, for example, I think she'll stay married if I had to predict.

01:17:45.680 Yeah.

01:17:47.180 You know, but, uh, you know, but she, even her, she still didn't take her husband's last

01:17:53.220 name publicly.

01:17:55.140 So, which I think that definitely is kind of a bad sign.

01:17:58.140 It is a bad sign.

01:17:59.400 You know, I, I will also say that there's a difference between Protestant traditionalism

01:18:03.740 and Catholic traditionalism.

01:18:05.560 This is what I've been seeing, at least in the Protestant circles, there's a lot of excuses

01:18:09.240 made for divorcing on the grounds of abuse.

01:18:11.920 Whereas in Catholics, they're very anti birth control and very anti divorce, much more so

01:18:17.600 than Protestant Christians are.

01:18:18.900 And I think, I wonder if maybe you've done a study in the difference between like a Catholic

01:18:22.780 trad and a Protestant trad.

01:18:24.140 Yeah, I, I'll just give my anecdotal experience.

01:18:28.520 I know, I don't want to misquote this to you, but I know when they look at divorces, Catholics

01:18:34.720 rate, it isn't, um, very different than the other.

01:18:39.680 Maybe it's 10% less, but it's still significant.

01:18:42.960 What they'll do.

01:18:44.020 And this is kind of a common religious argument is they'll say they're not like real.

01:18:48.900 So they'll say, you're not real.

01:18:50.380 If you're not praying once a day, you don't count.

01:18:52.580 If you don't do this, you don't count, you know, and to me, that's kind of like picking

01:18:56.740 and shoot, you know, um, Protestants, I could say that any person who's divorced and their

01:19:02.420 husband isn't a sincere Christian.

01:19:03.740 And I would probably believe that like for the majority of women who are doing that.

01:19:07.600 Yeah.

01:19:08.040 But it's still tough for the men.

01:19:09.700 If they're picking wives at 20, they don't know at 30, is she going to still be a real

01:19:14.060 Catholic?

01:19:14.960 You know, we don't, they, they can't, they can't know.

01:19:17.780 So, um, but when it comes to just anecdotally growing up in Catholic, like I went to Catholic

01:19:25.860 school, I didn't really see a big difference in the behavior.

01:19:30.620 Um, I would get, you know, I would say, you know, my producers like very, very Catholic.

01:19:36.380 He could tell you more about like the Latin mass community.

01:19:39.360 Like they're a bit more strict than like the normal, you know, I'm sure you're, you're

01:19:45.100 probably in a Latin mass one, right?

01:19:47.340 Yeah.

01:19:47.540 My husband's Latin mass.

01:19:48.600 Yeah.

01:19:48.920 Yeah.

01:19:49.200 You guys are more, yeah.

01:19:50.700 You guys are more serious than the, you know, but, um, the worst divorce story I ever had.

01:19:58.260 One of them was from a Latin mass community.

01:20:00.780 Like I've done a lot of interviews of like men that went through really bad divorces.

01:20:05.340 The probably the worst one was from, he married a woman that like went to a traditional Latin

01:20:11.020 mass.

01:20:12.080 Wow.

01:20:12.680 So, you know, again, I don't try to like, I don't try to like, you know, I really was

01:20:20.940 happy.

01:20:21.320 I grew up with married parents.

01:20:22.740 I was really happy we were Catholic, but I just don't see that as a guarantee for 20

01:20:27.780 year old men today.

01:20:29.100 Does that make sense?

01:20:30.560 What do you see as a guarantee?

01:20:31.980 I guess that's maybe another thing that I wonder, like, are you just predicting trends

01:20:36.180 or do you also hope to see men find success and happiness?

01:20:39.780 Um, I don't see anything as a guarantee.

01:20:43.200 I think there's no guarantees in life.

01:20:45.560 I don't, I, I follow incentives.

01:20:48.220 So as long as people are getting paid for being fake Christians on the internet, I think

01:20:53.740 we're always going to see it.

01:20:55.080 The problem is as long as women are paid to leave their husbands and their children are

01:21:00.600 and take the children, I don't think it'll stop.

01:21:02.960 Yeah, that makes sense.

01:21:05.180 Yeah.

01:21:05.700 I think I also like wrote a little bit back.

01:21:08.080 Cause like, I think one of the, I did watch like two of your videos on like divorce and

01:21:12.320 stuff, you know, like have sinned in them since they were born that like both men and

01:21:17.080 women have an ego, but whereas a man's ego is going to make him like watch out for his

01:21:21.760 public personality and his, his public, like, um, respectability, you know, he wants to be

01:21:26.940 respected in the public eye.

01:21:28.380 And he's more respected if he has a wife who's staying with him and he has children

01:21:31.680 who's staying with him.

01:21:32.480 Whereas a woman, she might find respect more if she's on her own and she's like, look at

01:21:35.800 me, I'm doing my thing on my own and I don't need no man kind of thing.

01:21:39.020 And I think that there's ego in both ways.

01:21:41.800 And sometimes, um, an ego statistical man is, is not necessarily, um, he's not necessarily

01:21:49.460 motivated to take good care of his wife.

01:21:51.600 As long as his wife is staying with him, he might like incur like use abuse or whatever

01:21:56.360 to make her stay with him.

01:21:57.660 Whereas a woman who's egotistical might like, you know, file lawsuit against her husband,

01:22:03.020 take everything that he owns.

01:22:04.420 It's still abuse on both sides.

01:22:06.060 Like she's taken all of his financial stability and he's taken, you know, all of her personal

01:22:10.120 security, but there's like, still like these egos, but in a good marriage, there's no ego.

01:22:14.440 A man is actually providing and protecting his wife and a woman submitting to him and helping

01:22:17.860 him with his dreams and staying loyal to him.

01:22:19.740 And neither of them are worried about their ego or their like, like their public, their public,

01:22:24.520 um, persona.

01:22:25.740 So the reason I think women have more egos is I think social media has like given us,

01:22:31.840 um, delusion basically where we even like, I don't know if you were watching the show

01:22:37.920 earlier, maybe not, but I covered a woman.

01:22:40.160 It's totally fine.

01:22:41.220 I covered a woman who like, she's using filters, right.

01:22:45.580 And she's arguing with men on the internet that she's still hot.

01:22:48.800 It was just weird.

01:22:49.520 But, um, but, but they, like, I think the women, they get such attention from the filters

01:22:54.940 that, and like the fake hair, the fake, you know, they don't dress like you dress very

01:22:59.900 modestly, but if you were to not do that, you would get attention from very high level

01:23:05.780 men.

01:23:06.120 Right.

01:23:06.500 Even like anyone, you know, anyone that, yeah.

01:23:10.360 So, um,

01:23:11.960 I would call it the sin of vanity.

01:23:13.840 I think women suffer with vanity more than men do and men suffer with like actual pride

01:23:18.480 and egotism more than women do.

01:23:20.460 Well, it's all the same thing, but there's like a kind of a different brand.

01:23:23.840 Like vanity is much more extreme sin for women.

01:23:27.660 Well, my point is more, I don't think we deal with reality until our looks start to fade because

01:23:34.220 the world gives us so many opportunities that men, they just, they're just told they suck

01:23:39.680 from a young age and that humbles them a little bit, you know,

01:23:43.220 I have seven brothers.

01:23:44.880 So I also do see the difference between how like women and men get treated like in the

01:23:48.660 public sphere.

01:23:49.380 Yeah.

01:23:49.860 It's really frustrated with my two brothers just under me are now married, but they have

01:23:54.280 had horrible dating experiences.

01:23:56.340 I also had a horrible dating experience before I met my husband, but, uh, girls can be what

01:24:01.360 were quite mean to my brothers.

01:24:02.520 I will say that like, it was kind of sad.

01:24:04.860 Yeah.

01:24:05.400 But, um, yeah, I hated it.

01:24:08.000 I think that that's another thing that too, that's like encouraged my sisters and I to

01:24:11.180 be like, like honest with the men who pursued us.

01:24:14.660 We were like, we didn't want to be like the girls who were mean to our brothers.

01:24:17.300 Yeah.

01:24:17.820 And I think, yeah.

01:24:19.740 Um, what was the third one?

01:24:21.100 You said women are more, there is a subset.

01:24:23.540 Okay.

01:24:23.760 I think we, that was kind of the first one.

01:24:25.720 There are a subset of women who would never dream of divorcing their husbands, even in the

01:24:29.680 case of adultery.

01:24:30.820 How do we find these women and how do we raise the numbers in a healthy way?

01:24:34.540 Um, you know, I like just from interviewing people, um, sorry, I'm going to read this

01:24:40.800 one more time.

01:24:41.440 Cause I think I was kind of mumbling.

01:24:42.640 So her third point guys was statistically women are more likely to file for divorce.

01:24:47.440 However, they're a subset group of women that would never dream of divorcing their husbands,

01:24:52.060 even in the case of adultery.

01:24:53.380 How do we find these women and how do we raise the numbers in a healthy way?

01:24:57.340 Um, so I think that the reason red pill content came out, um, I don't know if you know too

01:25:02.840 much of the history of it, um, just, just barely.

01:25:06.620 Yeah.

01:25:07.140 Um, well it was men in forums trying to solve their problem.

01:25:10.860 The other men would say, Hey, try this, see if this works, try this, see if that works.

01:25:15.340 So I, I think, you know, if there was a way to do that, men would have figured it out.

01:25:21.840 I just think there's no guarantees in just like, you know, um, the men 15 years ago or

01:25:28.920 20 years ago with your mom and your aunts, it was a roll of the dice, which sister to

01:25:33.780 pick, right.

01:25:35.320 You got, they got one and they got complete loyalty and they got another and they got

01:25:39.580 divorce.

01:25:40.200 Like one, it sounds like it had an amazing life and one, and I think you could probably

01:25:45.200 see that in the differences, um, like in any family, I think you can notice like differences.

01:25:51.000 So, um, I think it's a little bit predictable on the individual.

01:25:55.400 Like, I think a lot of boys, they see a pretty girl and they don't look at her values and

01:25:59.760 the words she's saying, and they just marry her for her looks.

01:26:02.720 That's true.

01:26:03.400 And so for men, it's often the role of device, uh, of dice.

01:26:06.360 But if our, when our brothers have asked us sisters, Oh, which girl should I go for?

01:26:11.240 And as girls were like, Oh, that girl's bad news.

01:26:13.320 And then they date her.

01:26:14.140 And then we're like, well, we kind of told you so going after a girl.

01:26:17.840 Like my, my one brother, he just married a girl who was one of my sister's friends.

01:26:22.080 And my sister kept being like, Hey, you should just date this girl.

01:26:24.620 She might not be as pretty as the other girls, though.

01:26:26.600 She actually is pretty, but you know, at first glance, she's like a very conservative girl.

01:26:31.020 And he's like, and my sister's just like, go for this girl.

01:26:33.240 She's a little shy.

01:26:34.120 She's, but she, this is the girl who's going to stick with you.

01:26:36.620 And my brother was like that.

01:26:38.380 And I think that's one way that we can help men is if men have trusted female friends, especially

01:26:43.340 ones who are already married, uh, we know if a girl is going to be, if a woman's going

01:26:47.880 to be like a submissive, loyal, um, wife.

01:26:50.520 And if she's going to be like telling her husband, like, no, no sex or like doing all

01:26:53.960 these types of things, because it's women who like tell each other things like who, who

01:26:58.320 give each other this type of encouragement and this type of advice that, you know, of

01:27:01.960 like, Oh, you know, like you shouldn't be like using as a sex as a bribe.

01:27:05.400 You should be like loving your husband through all things.

01:27:07.880 And like, like there are whole books written on this for women that women either choose

01:27:12.540 to read or choose to reject or hear it from other wiser women.

01:27:16.320 Like my grandma, she gave me excellent marriage advice that I took.

01:27:19.840 My aunts also gave me bad marriage advice, but I had to choose who to listen to.

01:27:23.720 Exactly.

01:27:24.580 And unfortunately what women are choosing to listen to is the only fans, right?

01:27:30.160 That's, that's, what's going up in numbers.

01:27:32.620 Crazy.

01:27:33.720 Unfortunately.

01:27:34.200 Um, I do think that men are blinded by beauty.

01:27:37.580 A lot of the times I do agree with you.

01:27:39.820 Um, there are times, and when I was interviewing men that were completely wrecked by a divorce,

01:27:44.800 um, there were times where I would interview someone and say, yeah, of course she was going

01:27:49.620 to do that.

01:27:50.180 Like obviously, but then there were times where, um, the woman changed.

01:27:55.460 She got into the wrong friend group and she sort of changed.

01:27:58.600 She started watching the, you know, there's whole websites dedicated to, um,

01:28:04.200 convincing women to like rationalize leaving their husband and convince them that they're,

01:28:08.740 you know, there's just so much working against everything that it takes a really strong woman

01:28:14.680 like yourself, you know, to go against it.

01:28:17.080 And I just, if I'm a betting woman, I don't think there's enough wives to go around.

01:28:22.660 And the other challenge you get is the wives that are there have so many options that sometimes

01:28:27.800 it ruins them too.

01:28:28.980 Yeah, no, it's an intentional thing.

01:28:32.080 I, I, myself over the course of my twenties, cause I'm, I'm getting closer to being 30 at

01:28:36.940 this point.

01:28:37.320 And I've had like a lot of ups and downs through my twenties, um, being single for like most

01:28:44.280 of that, you know?

01:28:45.220 And there were moments where I was like, I never identified as a feminist cause I like

01:28:49.980 hated that term ever since I was a kid.

01:28:52.240 But I, uh, there were moments where I saw myself becoming more feminist minded and, or

01:28:58.880 I would be like, oh, I, maybe I ran a really successful business for a few years and I felt

01:29:03.640 very like, um, empowered through that.

01:29:06.440 And so I had to like, think about these words in a way, because like, what does it mean for

01:29:10.140 women to be empowered in a way that's actually healthy for her longterm?

01:29:13.880 Um, how do I continue to keep myself vulnerable and feminine, even when the world is trying to

01:29:18.180 make me something that's not vulnerable and feminine.

01:29:20.380 And, and these things were difficult things.

01:29:22.200 And I went through periods where I like almost was like the red pill woman, you know, who

01:29:26.080 hated men kind of thing and vice versa.

01:29:29.060 I don't know if that's a term or not, but you know what I mean?

01:29:31.840 And so I would have to literally like, like put myself in this mindset and be like, okay,

01:29:36.380 for these next five months, I'm only going to wear dresses that have flowers on them instead

01:29:40.780 of wearing my more practical, sturdy dresses, or I'm only going to talk or every time a man

01:29:45.040 asks me out, I'm going to say yes.

01:29:46.380 Cause I went through a phase where I said no to a bunch of men.

01:29:48.460 And I was like, wait, this is probably not actually good for me or for them.

01:29:51.680 So I started like giving men, like for a five month span, I went out with every man who

01:29:56.340 asked me out.

01:29:57.320 And then if I felt like I didn't see it going in a good direction, I would give them kind

01:30:01.580 feedback.

01:30:01.980 Like I would want girls to do for my brothers kind of thing.

01:30:04.420 That's my husband.

01:30:05.800 Hi.

01:30:07.500 Yeah.

01:30:07.860 But, um, but I think that's what, what it boils down to is that it is true that any woman

01:30:12.980 can be corrupted by her friend group or by the world around her, by her experiences.

01:30:17.680 And that's why she has to like remain intentional and focus on God and focus on beauty and focus

01:30:23.020 on what it means to be a woman in order to combat how, how easy it is to fall into like

01:30:28.140 a dark side of feminine nature.

01:30:29.920 Yeah.

01:30:30.580 And I totally agree.

01:30:31.820 But my point is it's in everybody.

01:30:34.420 And so even like women, like you seem, you know, very like you, you, you seem like you'd

01:30:39.820 be a green flag, but even you're capable of falling too.

01:30:42.940 Oh yeah.

01:30:43.640 I'm capable.

01:30:44.320 We're all capable of it.

01:30:45.300 Yeah, exactly.

01:30:46.480 And the, the challenge is men just have a lot to lose nowadays.

01:30:49.900 And some men are just going to say it's not worth the risk.

01:30:53.120 Right.

01:30:53.920 Not all like your husband, he said worth it, you know, but that's just not every

01:30:59.840 guy.

01:31:00.940 I will say though, for the men who, for the men, like my husband says, his life is completely

01:31:05.520 different.

01:31:05.800 And I know my life's completely different.

01:31:07.120 We both feel changed by, by marriage because there's something in you that if you're doing

01:31:12.860 it with God at the center of it, and like you literally are doing it out of a sense of

01:31:16.660 love instead of out of a sense of, oh, my needs first kind of thing.

01:31:19.960 It's such a beautiful thing because we both become a better version of ourselves and it's

01:31:24.900 not healthy for men to hate women anymore.

01:31:26.700 That's healthy for women to hate men.

01:31:28.140 We're both made to love each other and to be loved by each other.

01:31:31.240 Yeah.

01:31:31.560 So the challenge with marriage, the challenge I have is I know with every a hundred men

01:31:38.940 that get married, there will be a percentage that commits suicide.

01:31:42.760 There will be, there's no like if, ands, or buts.

01:31:46.060 The suicide rate rises around, it's around the age they get married.

01:31:49.900 It's either 40 or 45.

01:31:51.300 Can't remember off the top of my head.

01:31:52.920 I have, I just can't morally push it.

01:31:57.160 I'll give you an example.

01:31:58.240 There's a woman who she, or a man I just interviewed the other day, he's around 60 years old and

01:32:04.560 he was just put on alimony for the next, his wife, they had six kids.

01:32:08.560 They adopted three.

01:32:09.660 She divorced him when they were teenagers.

01:32:11.620 I'm sure at your age, they felt the same way you did.

01:32:14.680 They were both Christians.

01:32:15.600 At 60, she changed her mind and now he has to put off retirement until he's 75.

01:32:23.660 That's almost slavery, right?

01:32:26.480 I don't, I don't wish that.

01:32:28.500 I don't, I like, I don't, I hope that's not you.

01:32:33.060 I hope that's not anyone I talk to, but I just can't not look at the stats and, and like,

01:32:40.300 I would feel bad if I pushed that someone did it and then they end up enslaved to a woman for 18 years.

01:32:48.880 Another example, and I get messages from men telling me that they chose that because they

01:32:53.400 thought it was the right thing because of their religion and how much it messed up their lives.

01:32:58.800 Like Steven Crowder is another example and I use him a lot.

01:33:02.480 Yeah.

01:33:03.180 But yeah, he, that's a terrible story.

01:33:05.540 And she was a virgin bride.

01:33:07.100 And, you know, she, they went through a terrible divorce.

01:33:10.960 He was giving her $30,000.

01:33:13.000 I mean, I'll take a slap for $30,000 a month.

01:33:16.880 He wasn't hitting her, but I'm just saying, you know.

01:33:20.080 Um, so it's, I just can't be blind to it.

01:33:25.560 And I know there's winners and there's people it really works out for, but you know, the men are going to look at it and think,

01:33:31.580 well, what do I get out of marriage that I don't get out of a girlfriend?

01:33:34.800 And feedback I've gotten from men is a lot of times when they get the ring and the behavior gets worse.

01:33:41.820 So they're thinking, why don't I just not do that?

01:33:44.560 You know?

01:33:46.040 Yeah.

01:33:46.480 And that's a good question for women to consider too, because they should make sure that whatever

01:33:50.640 they're giving their husband after they get the ring is just as good, if not better than before

01:33:55.460 they get the ring.

01:33:56.800 No, I think that's a fair criticism.

01:33:58.780 Yeah, well, it's, you know, I, I try not to say should, I used to say it a lot.

01:34:03.860 Um, like I can't say this one phrase because it got me kicked off of YouTube, but women,

01:34:08.700 you know, like the voting stuff, I can't talk about that on YouTube anymore, but, but, um,

01:34:16.040 the, it should, it's just like a wishlist.

01:34:20.560 It's still not a prediction.

01:34:22.000 Like saying women should do this.

01:34:23.740 Like they're not predicted to, you know what I mean?

01:34:27.500 Yeah.

01:34:28.380 Yeah.

01:34:28.780 Well, it's an individual thing.

01:34:29.960 You can't, you can't make women all be good mothers and wives.

01:34:32.620 It's something that a woman needs to decide on her own.

01:34:35.400 Yeah.

01:34:36.220 Yeah.

01:34:36.800 How can I tell a real trad from a LARPer?

01:34:39.520 Was that, so you said they can't represent trad culture because they weren't raised in

01:34:44.420 it and aren't intuitively traditional.

01:34:46.700 Likewise, most women purporting to be conservative online aren't actually conservative.

01:34:51.800 However, this doesn't mean that true traditional women don't exist.

01:34:55.220 Who are they?

01:34:56.120 What are they?

01:34:56.680 What do they look like?

01:34:57.460 How can I tell a real trad from a trad LARPer?

01:35:00.440 So I'm under the belief that there's no traditional women anymore.

01:35:05.260 And the reason I think that is because women always have the upper hand.

01:35:10.340 So like, um, if men, um, you know, right now in a marriage, men have no way of enforcing

01:35:19.100 enforcement.

01:35:20.680 So if she says, I want to leave and I want to steal your kids and your money, she ultimately

01:35:26.100 has the upper hand because she has the leverage.

01:35:29.000 I think the only way you can be in a traditional marriage is if somehow the men have the leverage.

01:35:34.500 Yeah.

01:35:35.300 Okay.

01:35:35.740 So I guess I would partially disagree because a lot of women who are actually raised in fundamental,

01:35:41.200 um, traditional homes, um, are usually terrified of divorce because they're, I don't know if

01:35:47.760 you know those women, they're very controversial people, Christian women actually, and her,

01:35:52.560 um, uh, just, she would lose everything.

01:35:55.500 So she might get from her husband, but her husband's already pretty poor to begin with

01:35:59.220 because people in these, what religion are they either in Tennessee and they're what?

01:36:04.400 Evangelical Christian.

01:36:05.540 Um, so a little bit Pentecostal.

01:36:07.460 Um, it's really hard.

01:36:08.580 They're not a specific denomination.

01:36:09.920 They're their own brand of, uh, Christianity.

01:36:12.920 Um, but evangelical.

01:36:14.780 I would be very surprised if there was no divorcees in there.

01:36:19.420 I would be really.

01:36:20.180 There are divorces, but they're the black sheep of their circles.

01:36:23.360 I, I, I would have to, if they're not Amish, I would sort of have to, I'm welcome.

01:36:28.380 I'm open to going, you know, but I would sort of have to see it to believe it.

01:36:32.860 Um, because what I would need to see from those communities is women getting married

01:36:37.580 around the age of 22, where they're dedicating their youth and having children young.

01:36:42.240 Um, yeah, I go ahead.

01:36:45.620 Oh, most of these girls in these communities get married between the ages of 16 and 18.

01:36:50.060 And so in my circles, I didn't get married until I was 27 and everyone thought I was

01:36:54.460 never going to get married because if you're not married by the time you're 22 or 23,

01:36:58.040 in my circles, it's like, Oh, there's something wrong with you.

01:37:00.660 Or maybe like you're too intimidating for men or a bunch of different reasons why I wasn't

01:37:07.340 married by the time I got married.

01:37:08.820 But like all my friends were married between the ages of 16 and 20.

01:37:12.920 And in my friend group, I have like, I had like 30 bridesmaids in my wedding.

01:37:18.660 Wow.

01:37:19.060 And in my friend group, I had one friend who's divorced in my friend group and all of us

01:37:27.480 disapproved of her divorce.

01:37:28.800 I, I, I told her the whole time she was doing wrong.

01:37:31.160 Her parents told her she was doing wrong.

01:37:32.640 Everyone told her she was doing wrong.

01:37:34.440 And it's turned out that because she just divorced him for a mental abuse, right?

01:37:38.020 It wasn't for anything that was actually like legit.

01:37:39.960 Yeah.

01:37:40.380 Her sons don't have a terrible life, all this stuff.

01:37:42.760 But, but the, the point is that in our circles, she's a minority.

01:37:46.200 She's like, she's not the, the person who, who, who is being applauded for this or is

01:37:52.980 a majority.

01:37:53.440 So, but I would still say it's a prediction because it sounds like your friends are around

01:37:58.440 30, right?

01:37:59.520 They're 28 to 30.

01:38:01.520 At this point.

01:38:02.180 Yeah.

01:38:02.300 Most of them have been married.

01:38:03.240 Most of them have had like several kids and have been married for about 10 years.

01:38:06.400 The, the average age of marriage is it's, you see where, okay.

01:38:11.360 You see women, if they're going to put their money where their mouth is, what they do when

01:38:15.700 they're done having children.

01:38:17.380 So typically women divorce when the youngest kid they want to have is in preschool.

01:38:22.280 So I don't know how many kids they're having, like, um, but I really wouldn't.

01:38:27.420 What?

01:38:28.140 They're all, they all want large families, lots of kids.

01:38:30.800 Yeah.

01:38:31.260 And homeschooling.

01:38:32.040 Yeah.

01:38:32.540 And, and the thing is I I've just seen too much and like the, the, the women that have a

01:38:38.520 lot of kids, they do divorce.

01:38:40.060 They just do it a little bit later.

01:38:41.820 It's like after the set, not always.

01:38:44.100 Right.

01:38:44.440 I'm sure there's some that are going to stay.

01:38:46.500 I would be surprised if they're that different than the statistics, maybe 10% different, but

01:38:53.640 I'd still guess that a third of them will divorce at some point.

01:38:59.160 Yeah.

01:39:00.000 I think my friends are the exception, but I'm, I'm just biased.

01:39:03.160 Yeah.

01:39:03.440 Yeah.

01:39:03.720 Yeah.

01:39:04.000 I mean, that's, I hope they are right.

01:39:06.200 But I just, I gotta be honest when I'm, you know, I'm not trying to be honest.

01:39:10.040 I'm trying to lie or like, it's just.

01:39:12.260 Well, I know from your perspective, you're reading statistics, right?

01:39:14.560 So I understand that.

01:39:16.280 Yeah.

01:39:17.080 Yeah.

01:39:17.440 I understand that for sure.

01:39:19.300 What is break?

01:39:20.060 I don't watch breaking bad.

01:39:21.600 So I didn't really understand the breaking bad.

01:39:24.300 So I just thought this was a really fun thing because, um, it's a TV show that my husband

01:39:30.580 and I recently watched, watch, and it's about this man who, um, is this high school teacher

01:39:35.860 and he's diagnosed with, um, lung cancer.

01:39:38.680 Is that what it was, Andy?

01:39:39.760 Lung cancer.

01:39:40.220 And anyways, he, um, he decides that he's going to start making meth because he wants

01:39:46.440 to provide his family, this whole hoard of wealth before he dies.

01:39:50.040 And it basically goes into this idea that it's a man's duty to provide for his family.

01:39:54.060 What at any cost.

01:39:55.240 So is it actually morally good or bad for him to like make meth?

01:39:59.300 He's not using meth and he's just selling to people who'd already be doing it anyways.

01:40:02.560 And anyways, he perfects his like most perfect line of meth and he gets involved in all this

01:40:08.040 like really scary stuff.

01:40:10.200 And like halfway through the series, his wife ends up finding out what he's up to and like

01:40:14.020 where all this money is coming from.

01:40:15.360 And she's pretty freaked out, but she, but, um, she doesn't really support him very, like

01:40:20.400 she basically liked him before when, when she thought he was like this, you know, um,

01:40:25.380 socially good person who, you know, abided by all the rules of society.

01:40:30.240 Um, she didn't like that he wasn't making as much money.

01:40:32.220 She thought he was, but now that he's making all this money from meth, she's not really

01:40:36.080 sure, but she wants the money.

01:40:37.600 And so it's like, she files for divorce, but she still wants the money.

01:40:40.960 And anyways, as the series goes on, Walter like loses the very thing he was fighting

01:40:46.680 for, which was his wife and his children because he loses their respect and they just hate him

01:40:51.680 because he made meth, but they can't see that he did it for them because society has purported

01:40:56.400 this idea that it's a man's due to provide for his family at any cost.

01:40:59.900 Like, does that exclude making meth?

01:41:01.460 It's like, it like brings up these really great, like, um, moral cross questions about

01:41:05.580 like how society views a man's duty to his family and how a family like goes with that.

01:41:11.260 Well, there's a sequel series called, um, better call Saul.

01:41:15.040 And it's about this lawyer who is morally corrupt and he does all this crazy stuff.

01:41:19.260 And he's got this girlfriend who's a really good girl.

01:41:21.300 Um, she's got, she's a lawyer also.

01:41:23.420 And she's like, really made it goes to another state and doesn't support anything.

01:41:27.900 But then when Jimmy goes to prison and gets out is in prison, she goes and visits him.

01:41:32.540 And she's like the person that stays with him through this time.

01:41:35.600 Cause now that he's like in his time of recovery, she's there and she's going to be the one to

01:41:38.680 spy him.

01:41:39.380 Whereas when Walter was in his hard moment, his wife turned on him and left him.

01:41:44.100 But Jimmy's woman actually stayed with him throughout the whole, the whole thing.

01:41:47.480 And I think it's, it's two really good examples for modern men of a woman who like, isn't going

01:41:53.740 to stick with you through thick and thin, but she still wants you to abide by society's rules.

01:41:57.420 And the woman who, who kind of wants you to abide by society's rules, but she really wants

01:42:02.460 you just actually to do what's right by your neighbor.

01:42:04.780 And if you don't do what's right, well, then she's going to separate from you.

01:42:07.940 Like both couples were legally married.

01:42:10.580 Like she's going to separate from you.

01:42:12.240 But then once you go back to doing what's right, she's going to come back.

01:42:14.700 She's going to be there for you.

01:42:16.300 And I just thought it was a really beautiful example of like two different couples that were

01:42:21.420 middle-class, normal American couples.

01:42:24.340 Yeah.

01:42:24.840 Um, sorry, the cynic in me.

01:42:27.420 I think that the women would be more interested when they found out their husband's selling

01:42:32.620 meth.

01:42:33.220 And the reason is because I see what happens with Luigi's shooter.

01:42:38.500 Yeah.

01:42:39.140 You know, the, the women have him on like t-shirts now and they were saying like, yeah, it's kind

01:42:42.940 of weird.

01:42:43.660 Yeah.

01:42:44.500 You know, um, I think it depends on the age group.

01:42:47.120 Um, maybe middle-class women would be horrified if their husbands were selling meth.

01:42:51.020 Maybe not.

01:42:51.780 Well, the way I would actually analyze that is when, when women, women go.

01:42:57.420 They go for security and they go for excitement.

01:42:59.700 Right.

01:43:00.180 So that's why when we go for, you know, the celebrities, the like drug dealers in this

01:43:06.340 case, and then women go for the safe guy.

01:43:08.960 And I think when women think they have the safe guy and he starts doing the exciting guy things

01:43:15.760 that like it, then they get mad.

01:43:19.120 They leave, you know?

01:43:20.420 Okay.

01:43:21.760 That actually could also be a fair analysis of that thing because Skye was definitely

01:43:25.860 into Walter because of him being safe.

01:43:28.620 Whereas Jimmy, uh, Kim liked Jimmy because he was exciting, but then she realized that

01:43:32.500 it was not actually good for either of them.

01:43:34.400 And it was like kind of a bad thing.

01:43:36.160 Yeah.

01:43:37.100 With speaking without a narrative, how to talk about, I can't say women are, I can't say

01:43:42.980 that on YouTube, um, there's certain, I can't make certain generalities about, about women

01:43:49.580 on YouTube, but I'll, I'll try to let people read both between the lines without saying it

01:43:54.740 how to talk about women being, um, live, live backwards in a way as to promote goodness

01:44:04.600 in women.

01:44:05.320 Um, okay.

01:44:07.420 So you're essentially saying that I need to say it in a different way.

01:44:12.800 Well, I guess it just depends on your point.

01:44:14.860 If your point is to promote, it seems like your, your audience is mostly men, whereas

01:44:19.920 my audience is mostly women.

01:44:21.580 So when I, my, like, if you're going to have a narrative, I guess, like your narrative needs

01:44:26.460 to promote something or another, like my narrative is to promote, um, more goodness in women and

01:44:32.900 more loyalty and more submission and more beauty.

01:44:35.220 So therefore I might talk about how like women are inclined to do all these bad things, but

01:44:40.300 let's not do those bad things.

01:44:41.740 And this is, this is how we can't, we get away from doing those bad things.

01:44:45.160 Whereas it seems like you're mostly talking to men.

01:44:48.140 So maybe, maybe you make it clear that if women get mad at you, you're like, well, I'm

01:44:52.840 not talking to you.

01:44:53.480 I'm talking to men.

01:44:54.220 If you don't want to be the statistic, don't be the statistic kind of thing.

01:44:56.980 Yeah.

01:44:57.320 Well, the, the thing is, it sounds like you're in like a coaching type of business.

01:45:01.980 You might coach women.

01:45:03.080 Oh, I don't know what I do.

01:45:04.500 I just have a sub stack and I write articles about like why, why men find dresses more

01:45:10.080 attractive than jeans and why, um, uh, it's good to be more like, I just like write basically

01:45:17.320 from the Bible, from scripture and from tradition, why these things are good for one to do and

01:45:21.960 how it can create a better spirit in us and all these different things.

01:45:25.140 But yeah, I don't think, well, it sounds like maybe it's like religious content or like,

01:45:30.440 it sounds like it's, um, like if I was to read your article, I would say, oh, maybe I'm

01:45:35.180 wearing jeans today.

01:45:36.100 Oh, maybe I'll wear a dress.

01:45:37.360 Right.

01:45:37.680 That would be like the, the end game of it.

01:45:40.900 Right.

01:45:40.960 I mean, I do employ a lot of generalities too, which I get a lot of hate for too, but it's,

01:45:45.620 uh, it's a little bit more nuanced than that.

01:45:47.840 I'm not going to say that a woman who's wearing jeans isn't a real woman.

01:45:50.540 I might sometimes say that, like maybe if a woman wants to be feminine.

01:45:54.280 And I guess one of the thing I get a lot of hate for, especially recently is I'll be like

01:45:59.160 conservative women.

01:46:00.020 Why do you hate it when men wear dresses when you wear jeans?

01:46:03.800 Like, isn't that hypocritical?

01:46:05.040 That's a good, I do wear jeans, but that's a very good comeback.

01:46:09.080 Like hating people for something that we're doing ourselves, all cross-dressed.

01:46:13.660 So I'm not going to allow my sons to wear dresses.

01:46:15.720 I'm also not going to allow my daughters to wear jeans and like this be consistent in our

01:46:19.120 ideology and not just hate people for no reason whatsoever.

01:46:21.900 Yeah, totally.

01:46:22.920 But, um, so I do think there's self-improvement niches, but that's just a different niche.

01:46:30.080 Like when I do my show, I'm trying to predict trends, say where this is going and point out

01:46:35.860 gynocentrism.

01:46:36.860 So I'm pointing out like the worship of women.

01:46:40.320 Like, so that's really my point is just to point out where it's going.

01:46:45.380 I think self-improvement, like I would never tell men how to date women, for example,

01:46:51.680 or where to, because I've, I've never, I don't date women.

01:46:54.140 That's not my niche, you know?

01:46:56.500 So you're still, it's just a different niche, right?

01:46:59.760 Yeah.

01:47:00.100 I think that's fair to distinguish from.

01:47:02.000 Like I specifically speak to teenage girls.

01:47:04.500 Like I, I, I entered interact with teenage girls and email them.

01:47:07.880 And basically like when I was a teenage girl, I wanted someone as a role model that wasn't

01:47:12.460 the first that had a, had a happy marriage that like dress in a way that I thought was

01:47:16.300 beautiful and not just lovingly, you know?

01:47:17.880 And so basically I'm trying to be for teenage girls.

01:47:20.880 What I wanted as a teenage girl, and I'm encouraging other women to also be for younger women, what

01:47:25.240 they wish that they had as a role model when they were younger.

01:47:28.060 Yeah.

01:47:28.700 Yeah.

01:47:28.900 And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

01:47:30.840 You know, I have, um, I have a very good friend.

01:47:33.120 Her name's like Maggie and she does something, she does femininity content and it's really

01:47:37.720 great.

01:47:38.060 And I, I like have gone to a couple of her events.

01:47:40.720 That's just not, um, I'm just not in that niche.

01:47:43.760 I wouldn't feel, um, I guess like I just wouldn't, that wouldn't really be what I would do.

01:47:49.400 Like, I think there's better women, like other women can learn from, I wouldn't really point

01:47:53.480 to me.

01:47:54.200 Does that make sense?

01:47:55.080 Yeah.

01:47:55.340 Yeah.

01:47:55.680 That makes sense.

01:47:56.180 You guys, there's better women.

01:47:58.740 Um, women need, and I don't mean that as a dig at myself.

01:48:02.560 I just mean, I think there's like better role models that can do that.

01:48:06.380 Um, just know your vocation.

01:48:08.520 Yeah.

01:48:08.820 Um, women without a narrative, oh, women need men.

01:48:13.360 Men also need women.

01:48:14.520 This can be beautiful.

01:48:15.400 If we make it a dance instead of a war, we learn to submit.

01:48:19.740 So it's a gift instead of a kink.

01:48:23.060 So I don't think men need women.

01:48:28.980 I really don't.

01:48:30.960 Um, I think that it can be helpful to them.

01:48:35.200 So I'll, I'll say Elon Musk as an example, I think that regardless of if he had women,

01:48:41.000 he was going to build rockets and just do really awesome things.

01:48:44.620 Even if he never gets married forever, Trump's been married three times.

01:48:49.120 I think it's been great for him to like that.

01:48:52.660 He met, I love Melania.

01:48:54.060 I think she's amazing.

01:48:55.140 I'm like a big fan, but I, I think that successful men that are on a mission are going

01:49:01.500 to do it regardless of if we're there.

01:49:04.200 And a lot of times what I see is women take the credit for their husband's success.

01:49:09.440 When I think that he was going to do that anyway, and you can either be, you can be an

01:49:14.420 asset and the women that are assets, the men have no problem saying how awesome you were.

01:49:21.020 But I think if like women were really known for being assets, then men would be signed

01:49:26.800 lining up to get married.

01:49:28.480 And they're just not, you know?

01:49:30.440 Yeah.

01:49:30.600 So I disagree with this for, I think, three reasons.

01:49:33.220 And I think it's all based on whether or not like you accept religion and Christianity.

01:49:37.100 But the first one is like, like, I believe that God created Adam and that Adam was like,

01:49:42.200 you know, the ruler of the earth and of creatures and the steward of the trees and the animals

01:49:46.680 and all that.

01:49:47.680 But he was lonely and he was incomplete without a helpmate.

01:49:50.700 Therefore, God made him a woman.

01:49:52.020 He needed a woman.

01:49:52.740 If Adam hadn't had a woman, Adam would not have been quite as fulfilled in the same way.

01:49:59.980 And of course, you know, there's the whole like story of the fall or whatever.

01:50:03.620 But then we go further to the Proverbs 31 woman, which is the ideal woman.

01:50:07.700 She's not ideal because of all these reasons.

01:50:11.860 The main reason she's ideal is because of what she does quietly and behind the stage.

01:50:17.360 Her husband receives glory for it.

01:50:18.980 And I think a lot of women mix this up.

01:50:21.060 They think, oh, well, because I'm behind my husband, I'm receiving the glory through him.

01:50:25.200 No, you're not receiving the glory through him.

01:50:27.340 Your husband receives glory because you're setting the stage for him.

01:50:31.020 And I would go further to say that men like Elon Musk and Donald Trump, while they are receiving

01:50:36.820 glory and we don't see the woman behind them, I would say there are women behind them that

01:50:40.680 we don't see.

01:50:41.320 And those women are doing their jobs very well because we don't see them.

01:50:44.360 If you see a woman and she's receiving as much glory or more glory than her husband,

01:50:48.800 she's doing her job incorrectly.

01:50:50.860 And you see a man who is getting a lot of glory.

01:50:53.880 I assume usually there's a woman behind him and she's doing her job correctly.

01:50:57.340 So that's just I'm more look to the I'm not overly religious.

01:51:03.280 So, you know, I do believe in God, but I wouldn't I'm not a Bible scholar.

01:51:09.400 You know, I don't argue religion, but I would more look for it's better for a man to be alone

01:51:15.720 than with a quarrelsome way.

01:51:18.460 And if I statistically look at the market right now, we're looking at women that have been on

01:51:23.040 social media from the time they're 12.

01:51:25.260 On average, they have thirty five thousand dollars in debt.

01:51:29.280 You know, this sounds nice, but if we go through the numbers, so they're irresponsible.

01:51:34.060 They're irresponsible with money, right?

01:51:36.920 They're overweight.

01:51:38.440 The average woman gains like 20 pounds in the first five years of marriage and we're already

01:51:42.960 overweight.

01:51:43.960 So it's I just think that and the general perception of men is saying that women are not easy to date

01:51:53.800 or get along with.

01:51:55.260 I think in 20, maybe back then.

01:51:58.220 They were helpful in 2024.

01:52:01.660 I see more women destroy men than I see actually support them for a lifetime.

01:52:08.260 Yeah, I think that one's more common than the other.

01:52:12.080 Maybe it's the maybe we're in end times.

01:52:15.100 I don't know.

01:52:15.720 But, you know, I just I can't.

01:52:20.420 I can't not see what's right in front of me because I want to, you know, like the religion

01:52:26.940 like that sounds nicer, what you said.

01:52:29.280 But I just have to be honest with what I would predict.

01:52:32.400 Yeah, I think that's a very fair distinction.

01:52:35.780 And you are right that the majority of the Proverbs scattered through the Proverbs are,

01:52:40.260 oh, it's worse to work like a like a quarrelsome wife or a nagging wife is worse than a dripping

01:52:46.040 faucet or it's worse than being alone.

01:52:47.900 And like that's a dripping faucet.

01:52:51.080 That's funny.

01:52:51.760 And it's not like, yeah, it's dripping faucet.

01:52:53.680 Like it's worse than a dripping faucet.

01:52:55.180 Like a woman nagging.

01:52:56.080 It's like a dripping faucet.

01:52:57.260 Like that's horrible.

01:52:57.960 And you keep hearing this throughout like the first 30 chapters of the Proverbs and you

01:53:02.260 don't actually get a picture of what the perfect woman is until the last chapter.

01:53:06.260 First, you're like, watch out for this woman.

01:53:08.420 Watch out for this woman.

01:53:09.360 Like these are all the women you should be watching out for.

01:53:11.440 There's a lot of bad women to be watching out for.

01:53:13.760 But the ideal woman, she's like making sure that your home is a place of industry and is

01:53:19.660 beautiful and things are being produced and things are happening.

01:53:22.620 And in fact, she's so resourceful and so industrious and so reliable that you can sit at the city

01:53:29.680 gates and gossip and gab and smoke with your friends and you don't have to worry about what

01:53:33.440 she's doing back at home because she's taking care of everything and she's doing it so well

01:53:36.800 that while you're sitting there at the gates gabbing with your friends, they're giving you

01:53:40.780 glory because your wife is like not bringing any shame to your home.

01:53:44.160 Like that is what the ideal woman does.

01:53:46.200 And unfortunately, we don't see that very much in society.

01:53:48.400 But and women also hate the image of the Proverbs 31 woman, I think, because they want to justify

01:53:53.420 their gabbing and their nagging and they're like, you know, quarreling.

01:53:57.100 Like women want to justify all that.

01:53:58.660 But at the end of the day, like it's very clear that the ideal woman is someone who is setting

01:54:03.780 the stage, setting the home, making everything comfortable and cozy, making sure that her

01:54:07.920 husband feels supported and loved all the time and not not in a way just for bribing and

01:54:13.280 forgetting what she wants.

01:54:14.180 And so she can have access to credit cards, et cetera, et cetera.

01:54:16.640 The funny thing is my husband actually just posted something on Twitter, I want to say

01:54:20.800 like two days ago or so.

01:54:23.060 Basically, he was just bragging about me and he was saying how like, oh, you need to find

01:54:27.400 a woman who's like going to stick with you for thick and thin and like here's some like

01:54:31.440 litmus test things like, is she willing to eat roadkill with you?

01:54:34.520 Is she willing to embrace poverty with you?

01:54:36.580 Is she willing to like, you know, deny worldly success and wealth?

01:54:40.420 And is she like willing to do all these things?

01:54:42.340 And people got so mad and they're like, it's OK for me to want to be a princess and for

01:54:46.020 me to be taken care of.

01:54:46.940 Like he wasn't saying that he makes me suffer.

01:54:48.280 My husband does not make me suffer.

01:54:49.960 But he knows at the end of the day that like if we go through anything hard, I'm not going

01:54:53.960 to leave and be like, oh, well, you're not making enough money.

01:54:56.020 So like this is over.

01:54:57.220 Like that's like, yeah.

01:54:58.460 And and the challenge, the challenge is we don't actually know that at this point.

01:55:05.220 And I don't mean I'm going to like, I want to give you every benefit of the doubt.

01:55:08.960 And you seem very nice.

01:55:10.440 I don't think you would.

01:55:12.140 But we can't even even his list.

01:55:14.380 We can't even know right now if it's right, because you guys have been married two years.

01:55:20.280 About a year.

01:55:21.200 And of course, I've done all these things before him because my family grew up eating

01:55:24.720 roadkill and stuff.

01:55:25.660 So that's why he uses that as an example.

01:55:27.260 But I'm sure many men would love to date a near Amish woman like guys in the chat.

01:55:33.320 Would you near Amish?

01:55:34.780 I mean, they, you know, but it's just not.

01:55:38.160 Sorry, go ahead.

01:55:38.860 For three years.

01:55:40.560 So I was almost Amish for three years.

01:55:42.440 Yeah, but that's just not the norm.

01:55:44.960 And that's not like most men can't really expect that.

01:55:49.400 Yeah.

01:55:50.080 And just like anecdotally, I could maybe think of like,

01:55:54.720 a couple women that fit the description.

01:55:57.240 I just don't think it's really the norm, you know?

01:56:00.040 Yeah.

01:56:00.700 I guess I got to come back on when I'm 35 and then when I'm 60.

01:56:03.860 Yeah, that's the, that's the, well, the problem is we look at the divorce rate of people that

01:56:09.100 are 60 and it's just, it's pretty high.

01:56:11.820 It's actually really sad.

01:56:13.360 We just met this, and I hate to be validating your points, but we just met this man in

01:56:18.420 Manawasca, Maine.

01:56:19.880 Oh, he was the most sweetest man we'd ever met.

01:56:22.100 And he was like, what, 90 years old.

01:56:24.440 And he'd been married to his wife who they had 10 children together and they'd been married

01:56:29.680 forever.

01:56:30.200 And he decided it was time for him to retire because he'd been working for his entire

01:56:35.620 life at this factory.

01:56:36.720 And his wife wasn't ready for him to retire.

01:56:38.920 And she's like, if you retire, I'm going to divorce you.

01:56:40.700 And he's like, oh, you gotta be kidding.

01:56:41.820 I'm retiring.

01:56:42.420 I'm done working.

01:56:43.000 Cause he was past retirement age.

01:56:44.680 Yeah.

01:56:44.980 He might be like 70.

01:56:45.780 I don't remember how old he was, but he was definitely way past 60.

01:56:48.040 He was like in his seventies or eighties, she fell for divorce and he lost everything

01:56:53.320 at like that far into his marriage.

01:56:56.200 And that is really, really tragic.

01:56:57.740 Like, I mean, stories like that, I feel like maybe it's your job to predict them.

01:57:03.180 And it's my job to like speak out against them because like, that's just like not right.

01:57:07.480 And I don't, I don't think there's any way to justify that.

01:57:10.560 And there's, you can't stop it either.

01:57:12.720 I probably, yeah.

01:57:13.920 When, when a woman wants to divorce, there's nothing.

01:57:17.820 The government, unfortunately there's just, let's just say, and you guys have your kids,

01:57:23.100 you have an amazing family in 10 years.

01:57:24.920 You want a divorce.

01:57:26.120 Um, uh, the government will assist you.

01:57:30.080 The police will assist you.

01:57:31.680 The media, even like if you get shunned from your community, it's pretty easy for women to

01:57:37.160 restart in a new city, download a dating app, marry a guy, new community, you know, it's

01:57:43.360 I've never watched the movie fireproof.

01:57:45.560 It's actually one of the, um, only movies I've ever seen that is against this whole idea

01:57:50.980 of a woman filing for divorce and a man trying to like be against, uh, like fight for his

01:57:55.880 marriage.

01:57:56.380 Fireproof.

01:57:56.860 I don't think so.

01:57:59.100 It's by a Christian public.

01:58:00.720 Actually the guy who plays in is Cameron Kirk.

01:58:03.000 I think he's known for like left behind movies.

01:58:05.260 I don't know if you've heard of that.

01:58:07.160 Yeah.

01:58:07.420 But, um, what was that?

01:58:09.380 I said, yeah.

01:58:09.960 Okay.

01:58:10.560 I'm looking, I've never seen it, but I've just looked it up on the screen.

01:58:13.820 It might be interesting to research because it actually became really popular for a while.

01:58:18.740 The plot of the movie is this woman decides she's fed up with her husband and she's going

01:58:23.100 to divorce him.

01:58:24.000 And she has like maybe legit reasons because he's addicted to porn or whatever, but she's

01:58:28.320 decided she's had enough and she's falling for divorce.

01:58:30.520 And the man's like, oh no, I want to save my marriage.

01:58:32.520 So he heals, like he, he quits his porn addiction and he starts going to church and he starts

01:58:37.500 doing all these things and he starts trying to get his wife to fall back in love with him.

01:58:41.440 And she just like, won't.

01:58:42.720 And so he like writes this whole, like love, love your wife, no matter how she reacts and

01:58:48.780 40 days of like falling back in love with his wife kind of thing.

01:58:52.440 And by the end of the, I won't get the plot away, but it's basically, it's just a, it's

01:58:55.700 just a movie that's encouraging people to like try to keep their marriages and make their

01:59:00.120 marriages fireproof.

01:59:01.080 Yeah, that sounds like a recipe for disaster.

01:59:06.300 Sorry.

01:59:06.840 I'm just listening to it.

01:59:09.060 No, when women want to leave, they're done and you're going to put yourself through hell

01:59:13.320 if you try to make her happy and she's not, that's my opinion on it.

01:59:17.400 And the other challenge is in the Christian communities.

01:59:21.680 They always blame the lack of, um, they always blame men's corn addiction, but what they don't

01:59:28.260 talk about is a lot of the women don't sleep with their husbands.

01:59:31.700 And I know this cause I interviewed OnlyFans workers and their customer base is white married

01:59:37.360 men.

01:59:39.100 So I like Christian married, like that's who they market to sadly.

01:59:42.680 That's why they keep, that's why they keep doing this.

01:59:44.880 Oh, after Christian grift is because it's just like, it's the same.

01:59:49.320 Unfortunately, it's the same guys buying it.

01:59:51.960 Um, so I, I don't think I would, I'll watch the movie if you want, but I might roast it.

01:59:56.600 I might, I'll do a show on it.

01:59:58.260 I don't think you might roast a little bit because you're kind of right.

02:00:00.540 Like it does kind of make it initially the guy's fault, even though they do say that

02:00:03.800 it's both people's fault, they never acknowledge that maybe she's also like not doing something

02:00:08.780 right.

02:00:09.060 Because a lot of places aren't going to be like, oh, well, she's not sleeping with

02:00:12.620 him.

02:00:13.000 They're never going to talk about that.

02:00:15.300 So, yeah.

02:00:16.280 Yeah.

02:00:16.660 Or, I mean, like men don't really want you to do it if you don't want to either.

02:00:20.560 So that's like, what do you, you know, like what it's kind of a, yeah.

02:00:25.520 So, well, I think that's all your points.

02:00:30.560 Um, I really enjoyed this conversation.

02:00:32.420 Do you have anything else?

02:00:34.380 This is good.

02:00:35.240 I think the only other thing that I disagree with you online and it's completely a non-sequitur,

02:00:40.600 but like sometimes you'll post about like how women shouldn't be posting pictures of their

02:00:44.740 children online.

02:00:45.300 And I actually strongly disagree with that.

02:00:48.080 I actually wrote a whole article about why I think it's good and why I think it's a fierce

02:00:52.240 eye out to not post pictures of your kids and how I think it's this, this, like this

02:00:55.980 thing that's like trying to make the whole online world into this place of consent and

02:01:00.180 everyone's a pedophile and all these like scary, dangerous things.

02:01:03.400 When in reality, like having pictures of children inspires people to have children and seeing other

02:01:09.080 people, like a lot of people never even going to be around children or if they do see

02:01:12.460 children in public, parents like, oh, stay away from my cake because you might be creepy.

02:01:16.640 Like, I think that's a really unhealthy mentality, but we should just be like, like having pictures

02:01:21.000 of smiling children online is like a really beautiful thing.

02:01:23.880 My dad, because I'm the oldest of 12 kids and my dad was a political activist.

02:01:27.240 He used to share pictures of our whole family.

02:01:29.540 And first off, it validated that he was like a family man and that all of our kids' smiles

02:01:34.200 were like, kind of made people like, oh yeah, he's not a bad man.

02:01:36.740 Look at all of his kids smiling.

02:01:37.680 And it made people realize that he was in this because of his heart and not for like money

02:01:42.600 or anything.

02:01:43.020 He never made money off of his work.

02:01:44.620 But then people, why don't you say you're using your kids to boost your reputation?

02:01:50.200 No, I don't think that's it at all.

02:01:52.120 I think that a father, when he's prideful and like proud of his family, he's going to look

02:01:57.920 at my family.

02:01:58.960 It doesn't necessarily boost his reputation.

02:02:01.340 It does add glory to his reputation in a good and healthy way.

02:02:04.180 Like, I do think people use it in maybe a wrong way to boost their reputation sometimes.

02:02:08.860 But I think like occasionally posting a picture of your child out of like, oh, I love my child.

02:02:13.900 My beautiful child's smile is like a good and healthy thing and innocent.

02:02:17.700 Do you think that kids have a right to privacy growing up?

02:02:22.020 I think that this whole idea that children have like separate rights of their own is kind

02:02:29.520 of bizarre, I guess.

02:02:30.760 But I think that children under a certain age are under the stewardship of their parents.

02:02:36.700 The parent decides that they are educated and how they're educated.

02:02:40.240 At least in America, because I was homeschooled, so I didn't go to public school.

02:02:43.320 My parents made the decision whether I was public schooled or homeschooled.

02:02:45.820 It wasn't my right to decide that for myself.

02:02:48.440 It was my parents' right to decide whether or not I did my chores or not.

02:02:51.680 It wasn't my right to be like, oh, you know what?

02:02:53.260 I think I don't feel like doing my chores today.

02:02:54.960 It's like, nope, I don't have those types of rights.

02:02:57.100 But this idea that, oh, a child has all these rights puts it to like this lawyer.

02:03:02.440 My husband called it like this lawyer's fantasy playground where everything is in the terms

02:03:06.840 of consent or not consent.

02:03:08.280 That's just not how it works in real life.

02:03:10.360 Like, we just don't talk that way.

02:03:11.280 Yeah, but we do agree that kids have some rights.

02:03:14.120 Like, they have the right to not be abused, for example.

02:03:16.940 They have, you know, the right to have, like, if you can't take care of your kid.

02:03:22.340 You know, my family, we adopted three kids that, like, their parents just couldn't take

02:03:27.180 care of them for whatever reason.

02:03:29.540 So I disagree with you that kids don't.

02:03:32.200 I think there is a baseline of rights.

02:03:34.960 Yeah, which applies to all human beings.

02:03:36.600 When we go to Twitter, for example, you know, there's porn on Twitter, right?

02:03:42.460 Like, there's literal, like, porn.

02:03:46.300 So I just don't think it's overly wise to post your young children on a site that there's

02:03:54.260 porn on.

02:03:54.940 You know, if it's one thing, it's for your friends and family.

02:03:57.360 I think that's different, like a private Facebook, but I just start to see these trends of women

02:04:04.240 sharing every intimate detail of their kid's life, and I just think that's wrong.

02:04:10.340 Yeah, and actually, in my essay, because I wrote a whole essay on this for Mary Harrington

02:04:14.060 Substack, and what I covered was that, like, there are certain things that are actually

02:04:19.320 dangerous to share about your child, like your child's favorite teddy bear, or your child's

02:04:23.540 medical conditions, or these different things about your child.

02:04:26.480 Because if a predator's going to come up to your child, he's going to look for what school

02:04:29.640 does your child go to, what things does your child carry, you know, as, like, a thing,

02:04:34.840 like, what kind of medical issues does your child suffer with, and that's how a predator

02:04:38.980 is actually going to get to your child.

02:04:40.640 But sharing a picture and having that picture, like, corrupted by a predator is actually extremely

02:04:45.060 unlikely, and there's no statistics that I could find that actually back up, that actually

02:04:49.400 endangers your child, the picture itself.

02:04:52.300 Yeah.

02:04:52.700 I guess, because my question is, what's more important, their privacy or clout?

02:04:58.980 And to me, like, if you're constantly posting your kids, I think you're communicating to me

02:05:05.600 that clout's more important, which is fine.

02:05:07.960 I don't think that every person that posts online their kids is going to, you know, be

02:05:14.800 taken or whatever.

02:05:16.160 But, you know, you see them post their kids, and they're bookmarked.

02:05:20.680 Well, what do people use bookmarks for?

02:05:23.480 Yeah.

02:05:24.140 You know?

02:05:24.420 It is very funny.

02:05:25.280 My husband's mother is a school teacher, and she showed everyone a picture, I don't

02:05:30.140 know if it was digital or not, of Andy and I, when we first got engaged.

02:05:33.620 And one of her students, like, copied that picture of us engaged, and that keeps it on

02:05:38.400 her, like, her school desk, because she thinks it's, like, was, like, a romantic picture.

02:05:42.060 So, like, I think there's, like, lots of reasons that people bookmark.

02:05:44.680 Maybe they think it's, like, cute or romantic.

02:05:47.260 They could have bad reasons, too.

02:05:49.160 No.

02:05:49.920 I mean, even today, like, this girl didn't even post a picture of her daughter, but I

02:05:54.540 covered a story, you know, men are saying they're going to rape, like, men are saying

02:05:59.220 they'll rape her daughter who's 14, and they're, like, doing jokes about it or threaten it,

02:06:04.960 whatever.

02:06:05.980 And, you know, and, you know, I'm like, well, what did you expect?

02:06:11.220 It's Twitter, you know?

02:06:12.460 And I think it's wrong, but I'm like, you're responsible.

02:06:15.740 Yeah.

02:06:15.900 And if you're, as a parent, and you want to say, okay, if something bad happens and take

02:06:20.880 responsibility, fine.

02:06:22.700 But, you know, I just think it's what you're communicating.

02:06:26.480 From my perspective, you're communicating to the world that the cloud is more important

02:06:31.340 than your kid's privacy.

02:06:33.900 Yeah.

02:06:34.540 I guess I think it's not quite that to comment, because, like, I'm sorry, I don't mean to keep

02:06:40.120 on talking about this.

02:06:40.760 That's okay.

02:06:40.980 You're fine.

02:06:41.400 You're fine.

02:06:42.100 It's totally fine.

02:06:43.420 I think that everyone who's on the internet, not necessarily, because it's not all about

02:06:48.940 cloud, but, like, we all kind of probably care about cloud just a little teeny bit more

02:06:52.600 than we should.

02:06:53.680 So, like, you can't really separate it from that necessarily, though maybe not everyone's

02:06:57.820 thinking about cloud when they post a picture of their kid.

02:07:00.000 But also, like, the whole idea of privacy, I'm not super into it either.

02:07:03.520 Like, I don't think that we're meant to be private individuals, but community.

02:07:07.060 But thank you very much for coming on.

02:07:10.240 I very much enjoyed this.

02:07:13.600 There's a lot of people that talk, and I don't know, I don't think you have, but I've seen

02:07:18.860 a lot of people trash talk me on Twitter.

02:07:20.880 They never accept my invite to come on.

02:07:23.180 So very, you know, very bold of you to do it.

02:07:25.900 Most people won't.

02:07:26.800 I try to trash talk anyone on Twitter because I don't feel like we can know someone from

02:07:32.440 Twitter alone.

02:07:33.540 Yeah.

02:07:33.800 Well, if you want to tell them where they can find you, follow you on Instagram, Twitter?

02:07:38.540 On Twitter and Instagram, both.

02:07:40.380 It's Keturah Abigail.

02:07:41.440 That's K-E-T-U-R-A-H and Abigail, like, typically how Abigail is spelled.

02:07:46.700 And then my Substack is called Polite Company, and it's at livingroomconversations.substack.com.

02:07:54.520 Okay.

02:07:54.800 Well, thank you very much, guys.

02:07:57.060 I'll give you a round of applause.

02:07:59.080 Yeah.

02:07:59.660 Thank you.

02:08:00.220 This was very fun.

02:08:00.940 I really enjoyed it.

02:08:01.900 I did, too.

02:08:02.720 Have a good one.

02:08:04.080 Yeah, you too.

02:08:04.680 Thank you.

02:08:05.380 They said, wow, Colts are following Pearl.

02:08:07.820 Guys, I don't think she's actually in a Colt.

02:08:10.540 I think it's something.

02:08:11.840 All right.

02:08:12.920 Let me read the comments that...

02:08:15.620 All right.

02:08:15.780 So as you guys know, if you guys want to have your comment read, you go to theaudacitynetwork.com.

02:08:22.280 10 bucks a month, 80 bucks a year.

02:08:24.800 And unlimited comments I read.

02:08:32.020 Sometimes, you know, nothing crazy, you know, within reason.

02:08:36.420 But let me read the responses today.

02:08:42.100 All right.

02:08:42.360 This site should have a live menu item at the top.

02:08:45.720 You know, I'm meeting with the website people tomorrow.

02:08:48.740 So if you guys have changes that you want, you know, I will let them know.

02:08:53.760 Michael is the smartest kid in the class.

02:08:55.960 Caesar says, the Daily Wire often gather to smoke cigars on sets while a real man like Andrew Wilson chain smokes cigars in his house.

02:09:04.720 Respect.

02:09:05.040 Despite the prop of cigars I have in front of him, I highly doubt Noel smokes them in his own house because of his wife.

02:09:12.680 If he knew the new paradigm for...

02:09:14.260 If he's the new paradigm for manhood, we're doomed.

02:09:18.380 Get that bag, girl.

02:09:20.960 Then go...

02:09:21.900 Tom, don't...

02:09:23.900 I'm not reading that.

02:09:25.980 Okay, Craig, looking good in black, Pearl, Yakamp.

02:09:30.580 The choice is the simp or then choose divorce.

02:09:33.100 Give her everything and lose it all.

02:09:36.960 She has no...

02:09:37.820 N'Jobi, she has no idea what she is talking about.

02:09:40.380 We are as good as the freedom we are given.

02:09:42.180 Excellent marriage advice does not work.

02:09:44.160 The laws need to change.

02:09:45.440 Stop the incentive.

02:09:46.440 The rest follows.

02:09:47.740 Rebel, I totally disagree with her that men struggle with pride more than women.

02:09:51.120 I think that's completely off.

02:09:52.420 I agree, but hey, you know, we have a difference of opinion.

02:09:56.700 Pearl, when are you getting married to your young man?

02:10:01.060 Should I ask him?

02:10:02.500 Should I send a...

02:10:03.880 Should I ask?

02:10:05.260 Okay.

02:10:06.040 She is showing off, oh yeah, all these preachings.

02:10:09.560 Yakav, every choice is an opportunity to do what is right or wrong, no matter how big the choice is.

02:10:18.160 N'Jobi, the moment she starts talking about Christianity,

02:10:20.780 you need to bring Andrew Wilson into the debate.

02:10:23.500 Yeah, guys, I don't like to argue religion because I just don't have the theological foundation

02:10:31.720 that a lot of these people have been studying for years.

02:10:35.260 It's just not, you know, I believe in God, but it's just not, I'm not arguing religion.

02:10:41.860 Okay, if you don't find the right good woman alone is better,

02:10:45.940 the not to be means that those who get more and more, even more broadly look at anything

02:10:51.280 we are suffering with now, everything started off benign and then became out with the fall.

02:10:56.340 The easiest thing to do is to make the internet for adults only.

02:11:02.340 They said Pearl's talking like a robot.

02:11:05.480 Okay.

02:11:06.420 All right.

02:11:07.000 I need these.

02:11:08.060 I need you guys.

02:11:09.100 Be nice.

02:11:09.940 All right.

02:11:10.560 I'm just kidding.

02:11:12.220 Okay.

02:11:13.300 If you guys enjoyed this show, please leave a comment, like the video on your way out.

02:11:17.760 Feel free to get some Just Pearly merch and justpearlymerch.com.

02:11:21.600 And if we get enough signups on the website, who knows?

02:11:24.720 I might do events at some point.

02:11:26.820 I mean, it could be fun.

02:11:28.380 Anyways, guys, like the video and subscribe and I'll see you guys next time.

02:11:32.220 Bye.

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JustPearlyThings - December 16, 2024

Confronting One Of My Haters ｜ Pearl Daily

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