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- July 21, 2023
Dating Coach On Why Men Are S3XLESS
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11 minutes
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Word Count
2,630
Sentence Count
143
Misogynist Sentences
14
Hate Speech Sentences
8
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Also, the absence of a father figure plays a massive part and then these men are raised
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by women and the women are a bit angry, you know, and they're just like raising them to
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be scared.
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You know, they're not raising them to be, you know, men, you know, they're raising them
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from a woman point of view that she's been used and abused by men.
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So he's kind of lost his identity.
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That's playing a massive part.
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The survey, is it speaking about a specific age group?
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Young men mostly, like up to 29.
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Okay.
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Because I totally agree with what you guys are saying with the younger guys, but something
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that I've personally noticed out on the street is that the older guys that now have families
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and have children, they're the ones you see during the day pushing the buggies and with
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two, three kids on the street.
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So where roles are reversed, maybe now the men are tired spending all day with the kids
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and then during the night when the wife comes home or both of them are at home, they're
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like, do you know what?
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I'm really tired.
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I don't want to have any sex.
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The men say that?
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The men.
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That's what I'm seeing on the streets.
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Maybe the roles have been reversed where usually it would be the women.
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I got to vehemently disagree with this.
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I don't know if men are tired to have sex.
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Just after even speaking to like divorce attorneys, like a common complaint is that men, they have
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two kids and then the wife stops sleeping with them.
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And I've talked to like different attorneys in the U.S.
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because I'm doing a documentary on the court system here and I've talked to different divorce
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attorneys in the U.S. and the UK and it's the same problem.
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That sounds more realistic because like the women are like, my body's not the same.
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He probably doesn't see me the same and they just let go.
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But guys, no, they actually, they want that.
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They want to sleep with you after you've had kids because you're the person that they married
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and all those things.
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But I think women just think because I've given him kids, he's not going to want anything
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else.
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Do you think that's unfair to men?
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A hundred percent, a hundred percent, because at the end of the day, men need it more, you
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know?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What do you guys think?
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Why aren't so many more men sexless?
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So, like I've been coaching this stuff now for 10 years and I see a lot of guys, they
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go and try to get better with this stuff.
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A lot of the pickup artist teachings are misleading and they don't work and then they just fall
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into some kind of victim ideology, right?
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So they think, okay, I'm going to just fall into red pill and resent women and hate women
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and women are the enemy.
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Or they think, well, I don't look like a model.
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So that's why I can't get girls, like the whole black pill stuff.
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Or they go to MGTOW and they say, I'm not going to even bother dating.
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And a lot of guys are already self-conscious about their height or about how old they are,
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about how much money they have.
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And we were talking before the show, like we both coached a lot of guys, guys come in
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to interactions, just assuming like they're not good enough for whatever reasons.
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And then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because they have a negative mindset and they
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go down this kind of negative spiral and then they give up because they don't have any
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other options.
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There's no light at the end of the tunnel.
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And they try to do these things.
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And there's also this unrealistic standard, like on Instagram and stuff like that, where
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you just see people like, this is all perfect and this and that.
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And so guys are trying to compare themselves to that.
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And they're like, well, this isn't for me.
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So a lot of guys just become more and more on the sidelines, just spectating other guys.
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Right.
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And so it's kind of like feast or famine.
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Like once I teach a guy how to get a proper mindset and do all the system properly.
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What mindset do you teach them?
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I tell them to think that they're at a hundred out of a hundred at all times.
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And there's a brick wall between them and the external things that happen.
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So if they get rejected or they get insulted or anything like that, their value stays at
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a hundred out of a hundred because they're deriving it from internally.
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They're not letting people's reactions and people's responses define their worth.
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And then also I tell them to assume they got the girl before they go approach like in
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public.
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And that makes a huge, huge difference.
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Like he was saying, he focuses really heavily on the mindset.
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That's like most of the battle, right?
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There's still tons of strategic elements, but if the guy is thinking that he's not good
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enough and he's trying to win the girl over, he's already coming at it from the wrong angle
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and girls pick up on that right away.
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And they think, okay, this guy is low value because he thinks that I'm way above him.
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So I'm not, I don't teach guys to think they're better than the girls, just think they're good
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enough for any girl and still keep working on themselves and better themselves as much
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as possible.
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But that's an empowering message.
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And we usually get clients that are, that are virgins or divorcees or anything like
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that.
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We get them late, like in the first week and you saw on the, on the bootcamp, like a
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lot of those guys had never taken girls home before.
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And part of it is getting them to believe in themselves.
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But the other part of it is giving them the proper strategy to know how to navigate through
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the whole system because there can be bottlenecks any step of the way.
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Like if guys are using random Tinder pictures, they're not going to get many matches.
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If they get a match, they're going to send wrong messages.
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If they get a phone number, they're going to send the wrong texts.
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And so it's very hard for them to make it through the whole process and they get deflated and
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then they just give up and then they just go to these other side movements and they just
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all like sit on these forums and watch these creators that just victimize everyone.
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I think that's very sad because a lot of these guys just need proper coaching.
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Like you saw, like a lot of the, a lot of clients that I get bounce from coach to coach
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and they didn't get anywhere, but they weren't being given the proper mindset, the proper
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system.
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Um, and then when you give them that, the results are just almost instant.
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What do you think starts the problem though?
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So it's like if, if they went to these forums or to these YouTube channels or whatever, like
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something had to start it where it's different today than it was 50 years ago.
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What do you think that is?
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I think, you know, just with, with the advent of, of social media and stuff like that.
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And there's, there's just so much like, like this Tinder statistics, right?
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It's like if guys aren't using professional pictures, like the first thing we do when
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a guy signs up for my, my eight week program is we get in professional pictures and then
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Liz and some other girls on the team pick the top five and then we apply face app.
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So they're going from like average photos to pro photos to the best five pro photos to
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the face app versions.
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And now they're getting like a night and day difference in the quantity and quality of matches.
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Whereas, you know, before they might've just put up whatever pictures didn't get the
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result and then they see their friend, maybe like, you know, one of their cool guy friends,
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he's getting a lot of girls, but they don't know how to navigate that properly.
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But then when they look on social media, they see, you know, all these perfect looking people
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and they say, well, I'm not perfect looking, right?
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And I have these flaws and people have these different handicaps they place on themselves
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where they are cognizant of all these different flaws they have.
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And then they think that that makes them not good enough for the girls.
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And then that causes the rejection and then that like reinforces the belief.
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And then it just continues in a cycle.
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Right.
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And people are, you know, not many people are cold approaching anyways, like even, even
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in your generation, stuff like that.
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No, but it's gotten even less common now.
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Much less.
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And with COVID and stuff like this, you know, not many people were going out.
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And I think that even once like night venues and stuff reopened, not as many people go
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out anymore.
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And a lot of clients I work with, their ego is like very tied to approaching a female in
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public.
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So if that girl rejects them, they feel horrible about themselves and it's, it's tough for
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them to go back in and try again.
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And then if that rejection happens again, it keeps, it's like a, it's like a negative momentum
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and then they, they just usually give up.
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So my job is to, to show them like, look, you, you can totally do this and show them real
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tangible results.
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And that starts a positive momentum and then they end up with a place of options and they
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can pick the best one for the girlfriend or something like this.
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What do you, what do you think about the men that say they're afraid to approach because
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of the Me Too movement?
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I mean, that's a very real thing.
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Like, I live in Brazil, that stuff's not really going on over there yet, but in the Western
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nations, it's, it's a really bad thing.
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Like I just did a video on my channel about like in Scotland, if you're talking about like
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a sexual conquest and a woman overhears, you can be sent to jail.
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You can be sent to jail?
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Yeah.
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It's like a new thing.
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What?
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Yeah.
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And in England too, like I, I, I, correct me if I'm wrong, but like, if you like cat
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call a girl on the street, you can get in trouble now, right?
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You can Google it.
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I don't know.
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I'm pretty sure that like.
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Yeah, I think you can, but it depends.
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Like it'll have to be something like, I don't know.
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It depends.
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They won't arrest you.
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It's not an arrestable offense.
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No, it does.
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It does.
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It says this legislation will, this legislation, wait, this, this legislation will criminalize
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acts, including cat calling and making offensive gestures and walking too closely behind someone
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at night.
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Yes.
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It's ridiculous.
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And same like the Scotland thing.
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It's if you brush up against someone and I've been in tons of nightclubs, right?
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And so I spent a lot of my time in my life for better or worse, but you know, inadvertently
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you're going to be brushing up against people when you're packed in into a club and that's
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I can put you in jail now in Scotland if you brush up against someone.
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So what do you say to guys that are in countries with laws like that?
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Do you tell them not to approach or what's your, what's your solution as a dating coach?
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I mean, if they, I tell them to move if they can, I mean, that's pretty extreme, but like
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in Australia, for instance, like they have a new thing where, where women can change their
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mind about consent during sex.
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And that's, you know, I have Australian clients and they're just terrified.
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They don't even want to get in a sexual situation because there's no one there to witness
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that.
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So it's just, he said, she said, right.
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And they're going to take the side of the girl in a lot of the cases.
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I'm not saying that like bad stuff doesn't happen, but it makes guys very apprehensive.
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Same with the Scotland stuff.
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Guys were already afraid to go to approach and now they're, they don't want to have legal
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trouble.
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Right.
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So as these countries and what they're trying to do is combat harassment of women.
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These are real problems.
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But when they impose these very strict kind of locked on measures, then it turns men away
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from speaking and leads to the statistic.
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It's a pendulum swinging too far.
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I'm curious because you've lived like everywhere.
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Yeah.
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What, what is your experience dating in different countries?
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So I lived in Poland and Ukraine and I often talk on my channel that the, the women are
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just much more family oriented.
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It's almost like the U S like 50 years ago.
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So it's like, they're more like feminine, elegant, um, kind of stronger moral system, looking
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for kind of family, stuff like that.
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On the flip side of the coin, they take longer to hook up with, which was annoying, right?
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Like in Ukraine, it would take like two to five dates to actually hook up with a girl.
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So I added situations where I'd be on a fourth date in public and they weren't ready to kiss
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yet, which I've never encountered anywhere else.
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But there's not a lot of this, you know, um, kind of me too stuff that's happening in
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the U S and happening in, in the UK and stuff like that.
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But again, these are very real problems that need to be addressed.
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But when they say that you can't speak about, you know, hooking up with a girl within earshot
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of another woman, or you can't brush up against someone, even if it was an accident or stuff
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like this, it starts to blur the line between, you know, guys just living their life versus
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potentially encountering trouble.
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And they, and guys want to err on the side of caution in a lot of cases and the things
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we've already discussed about how guys are already apprehensive that adds to it.
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And they just figure, you know, I'm not going to even bother with that.
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I'm just going to watch corn, I guess, or stuff like this.
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That was interesting.
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So you really think that the me too movement has contributed to male sexlessness, sexlessness
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because they, they don't want the rest.
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Yeah.
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Cause I, cause I have access to like thousands of clients and I hear these, these things
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all the time.
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And like, you know, the guys in Australia, a lot of them couldn't even leave because of
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the, you know, during the pandemic, but they're really terrified about getting in a situation
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where a girl later says, Hey, I changed my mind about consent.
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And then what happens from there?
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Right.
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Or, or a guy, you know, approaching a girl and she doesn't like it.
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Maybe in the UK, is he now going to get in trouble?
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Right.
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So as we said, not many people were called approaching to begin with, but when you put these kind
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of restrictions on guys are, are even more intimidated, right?
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Because now there's not just rejection, there's also legal consequences.
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