Delusional Modern Woman Said THIIS
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the difference between being a "side chick" and a "housewife" and how to turn a hoe into a housewife. We also talk about the dangers of sleeping with other women and what to do if you find yourself in a situation where you are in a relationship with another woman.
Transcript
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So if you're in a friends with benefits situation that's uncommitted,
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I feel like a side chick is when somebody's in a relationship with somebody
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and then they're doing something with somebody on the side.
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No, a side chick is when you're one of many chicks.
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The moment you give a guy sex days, after that, you've given him everything already.
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So there's no need for him to actually make you into his girl or his wife.
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The need to make you into his girl or his wife is because you possess something that no other women have.
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If it's just sex and you give it away and you're not a virgin to give it to other men,
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then we don't consider it as something special.
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This is like every time guys have a standard, I don't think you're doing it intentionally,
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So if a guy says, like, I don't want to date a girl with a bunch of guy friends hanging around,
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I don't want to date a girl that goes to the club, you're like, oh, why would you do that?
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No, like, what you guys have done is you guys should have just got it together.
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Instead, you guys have played games, gone into the world, and you still kept this connection.
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And that makes it even worse because he got rid of you.
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See, as a man, this is giving me all types of red flags.
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Now, the question is, can you turn a hoe into a housewife?
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I think if the right man is with the girl, then she can be changed into a housewife.
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So, it just all depends on the individual, their influence, and the circumstances that
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But I've been with girls that may have had, like, numbers behind them.
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And I think that when they was with me, I perhaps could have changed them into a housewife.
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But it's not every woman, so it could be just that particular person.
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Okay, what, is there anything that a girl can't come back from?
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When you say that, that's, like, an open question.
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Like, because I'm not really, I don't really judge people.
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So, I couldn't really say that there's something that they couldn't come back from.
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But me personally, as long as I don't really ask too much questions about your past,
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because once you're with me, I'm all about our future.
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So, I don't really focus on what you've done before me.
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So, as long as you're not carrying on with the stuff you was doing beforehand,
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And from where I'm not going to have, like, maybe a friend approach me and say,
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yeah, she done this, then I don't think it's really going to be a problem.
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I believe that a leopard never changed its spots, so.
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I feel like, I've actually had conversations with guys about this.
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but I know a lot of girls do end up being the housewife.
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And a lot of us good girls be like, hey, what did I do wrong?
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But I feel like some guys do feel like when a girl does have enough experience
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like having to change guys or, like, sleep around.
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I know I'm really, really trying for these girls.
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Simply because everybody deserves a second chance.
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Just because you've done something when you were younger
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doesn't necessarily mean you're the same person.
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Okay, I mean, today, I'm not really the type to really go for the baby for others.
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because I'll be a little bit older to the point where, like,
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who do you exactly think doesn't really have a child at that age?
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About five or six or seven of my friends are all in the same boat.
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I'm, like, literally, like, I'm, like, one of the few that don't.
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Not in that way, but, like, I'm not in a position to want kids.
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Yeah, so I just think that it's just probably where you're looking
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a lot of people actually don't have kids or they don't have baby mums or...
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50% of women that hit 30 are single and childless, actually.
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For the people that I know, to my knowledge, I'm going from what I know.
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So you might feel like somebody doesn't have a child
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or they have a child and they didn't know they had a child.
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I think it depends on your definition of a housewife.
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But if you're talking in its traditional way, I would say no.
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I think too much experience, a lot of negative ones,
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I think for someone who would fit the definition of a hoe,
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I don't think, I think by then they're just damaged goods.
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So why don't you two answer and then we'll talk about that.
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My definition of a hoe is a girl that's slept around a lot
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But I'd say a girl who's not really been concerned about
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whether she's got any connection with the guys that she's been sleeping with,
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she's just been having a good time, racking up the body count.
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Yeah, I feel like you can easily change to one as all you need is probably just a change
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of culture because that's what you'll have to do first thing when you change your culture
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So you do think you can turn a hoe into a housewife?
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Not lifetime, but definitely for the first two months.
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So you can turn into a housewife for two months and then her hoe comes back?
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Yeah, because then if you look at all these rappers, they're doing it all the time.
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Yeah, but if you look at rappers as your idol, then you're idolizing celebrities.
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Of course, but in terms of looking at people who are turning hoes into housewives,
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they're the majority of people who are doing it.
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Probably not long, because if you're looking at Kanye West and King Kevin, that didn't last long at all.
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Maybe it depends on how people interpret the definition of a hoe then,
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because then some people might feel like certain things that women have done in their life,
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A girl becomes a hoe when she has to start lying about how many people she slept with.
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Because for the moment you start lying, you're not even being true to yourself.
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So the moment you have to start lying to yourself and lying to other people, you're a hoe.
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So if she is honest and says 50, she's not a hoe?
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Yeah, no, I'm still not going to wife her, but I respect the honesty.
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I mean, we said before, a woman has the right to choose.
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A woman has autonomy and sovereignty over her body.
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A woman can have consensual sex wherever she chooses to be.
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But those are the woman's rights and men have our own rights.
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And it doesn't mean we have to take it for that.
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So what we're trying to say is, women can do whatever they want.
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We don't judge you personally, but us as men have certain standards.
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And we don't want to be with a woman that slept, for example, with my friend or a friend's friend or something like that.
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A lot of women argue that they don't and they treat it the same.
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But you women still don't mind seeing a guy that sees a lot of other girls, where us men, we detest that.
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But what if, like, I feel like the reason why I feel like I'm standing for certain women is because what if they're psychological problems?
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What if you are judging somebody from the cover of what you see them as, but they actually are somebody that just deserves good love?
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What if it's somebody that is willing to change their colors for you?
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I think that's a feminine point of view because we always try to change men.
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But, like, from the man's point of view, it's like, once you've lost your purity, it's gone.
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They might look at me and be like, okay, I don't like the way that she dresses.
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But if it was a thing where you sat down and we was to have, like, a night out, just me and you as girls, and I told you about my past and the reason why I've done certain things.
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And, like, I'm ready to, like, give myself to somebody that I really trust and really love, do you not believe I deserve a second chance?
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I think you kind of, it's like, what do you qualify for?
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And so it's, if you, you know, did certain things in the past, like, I just think you're eliminated from certain guys.
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But don't worry, one in three men are virgins or haven't had sex in the past year.
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I just think there's a lot of onus on the men put that we have to accept bad behaviour or previous stuff.
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We, no one is, no one has to allow anyone's previous history.
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That's why if you've ever done a crime in the past before that, you know, if you go for a job, some jobs you can't go for, and that's just the way it is.
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So I think a lot of times women want us to be counsellors and be psychotherapists for their previous trauma, which we had no part in.
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And that, and that is fine if the guy that wants you is prepared to take that, but you shouldn't go into the world thinking that anyone has to be there to, to fix any of your.
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What I'm trying to figure out is why men deserve, most men always get looked upon like, like they're not a hoe.
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Why is it different for women than it is for men?
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The world doesn't like think highly of you if you do what's easy.
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So for you, for example, for you as a lady, you're a very pretty attractive black woman.
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And on Instagram, I haven't seen your Instagram, but I'm sure if you put on your Instagram every single day that you was lonely and you wanted some company, I'm sure you wouldn't have any problems with people messaging you.
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Or if you asked, you asked for people to take you out.
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But if one of us did that and said that we wanted sex, we would probably have our Instagram shut down.
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Now the difference with us is if, if, if in order for me to sleep with a hundred women, especially quality, beautiful women, I would have to have some type of value about myself.
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In order for you to sleep with a hundred men, you don't have to do anything, but just say it and you can just walk down the road and you would find men that will sleep with you.
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If I do say I'm lonely on my Instagram and somebody does come or approach me in a way where like they're coming across as they're good and then they've lied to me or made me feel like they were going to do something good in my life.
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And then they turned out that it wasn't that or I ended up giving myself to somebody.
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And now they're like, yeah, I don't want to do you anymore.
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So now that's added on a number to the previous guys that I've done before.
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And it comes across that I'm a home and realistically, that wasn't the situation.
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Yeah, but it's like, how many times are you going to get bamboozled?
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Like, I think most guys like, okay, so like if I'm a home too, they're like, all right.
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But like when you're like 20, 30, you got bamboozled by all of them?
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Because you're slept with 10 or how many people and nothing's come of it.
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So for me as a man, all those 10 previous men you slept with, they don't add anything to me.
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They're just men that have used you and now left you for me.
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So what you're in bed with you doing is vetting those guys better.
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You need to mitigate these men that come into your life and say, right, which one is?
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If you give up the goods every single time a guy takes your number, takes you out for something to eat, that's up to you.
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No, but this is also up to you because you have to, you have to differentiate between the men that lie and the men which don't lie.
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If you cannot separate the good men from the bad men, whose fault is that?
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That's not, do you understand what I'm trying to say?
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We're not going to like sit here and be like, that's bullshit.
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As a girl, as a girl, you, you know, deep down, you just, you're just trying to sell, you just want to change them.
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You, you know, deep down, which guys in a room you walk into, you knew which ones are getting laid.
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But the thing is, like, we want the guys that get laid.
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What if it's a thing where I'm literally trying to know you as a person?
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Do you want to date someone that no one else wants to date?
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So you're going, so you're going for guys that you already know that a lot of women want.
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So these are, these are men that are obviously they want it.
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They, they, they're high value in the sense that a lot of women want them.
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Whenever you go for these types of men, you have to understand you, you are just one.
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You can potentially be one of many and you don't want, you don't like being, you don't mind being one of many.
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There's probably some guys across the years that have always probably tried to holler at you, tried to take you out.
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And you haven't given any time to these guys, these ordinary, ordinary.
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But what I'm trying to say, all of these guys have watched you deal with all of these guys one by one, one by one.
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At some point, you need to say to yourself, maybe I am going for the wrong types of guy.
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And maybe I need to start going for what makes sense.
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I feel like they don't get to that stage until they're maybe more mature.
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When their options start narrowing, that's when they start being a bit more pragmatic about what guy makes sense.
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Well, you have till what, 35 for geriatric pregnancy?
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So it's like, and unless you have $20,000 to put down and maybe get a kid out of it, maybe.
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Like, you got to, at like 30, I feel like people start getting desperate.
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I feel like when females get to the age of 30, that's when they start looking at the guys around them.
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I'm tired of being abused or tired of going through the same old story.
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Now, I might go for the good guy that may not have wanted me beforehand.
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I feel like the modern day kind of girls are a bit different though.
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It doesn't necessarily mean that they're looking for a child or another husband.
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Sometimes they're literally trying to get their money, build their next generation.
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It doesn't necessarily have to mean a child that comes from them.
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They can, but the least happy demographic of women is women over the ages of 45 that make between,
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I think it's like between $50,000 to $70,000 per year and are single and childless.
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Like, life gets pretty, life gets pretty, what?
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Like, life gets pretty lonely after the age of 45.
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Like, I don't think as women we really understand how different the world treats us because we're
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And because one day your looks are going to be gone.
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Like, 40, 40 to, no men are lining up to date 50-year-olds.
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It's a good thing I got personality then, isn't it?
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If a girl doesn't look good, do you care about a personality?
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But if you're trying to wife someone, why would you not care about their personality?
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If she doesn't look good, you have to start with looks.
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You're looking at it from a female point of view.
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Before you try to speak, you have to understand and accept what we're saying to you.
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Because before I even come and get your number, or even want to speak to you, I've assessed
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So, if I didn't like the way you look, why would I come and speak to you?
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In order for me to know your personality, that would involve us having to work together
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or be in a scenario where we can speak enough for me to know your personality.
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If a guy comes up to you out of the blue and tries to speak to you, you're going to be
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like, oh my God, he's got such a handsome personality.
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All you know is the guy that's approaching you and whether or not you want to accept his
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approach or not, listen to him or just give him air.
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So, your first attraction is based upon, in that aspect, in a nightclub or outside setting,
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based upon attraction because you don't know what the personal personality is.
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And for females, I feel like a guy has to give a certain image before you even take him
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And that's the thing girls always like to say, are you pressed or has someone hurt you?
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For me, if I approach a girl in a club, I'm not likely to get the same reception that my
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brother would over there because he's taller than me and he's more built.
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So, it's like, it's going to be harder for a man like me to move to a girl because she's
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going to look at me and be like, that's not really my type.
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You see that type of, that blatant, look, you just assessed yourself and you said, right,
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We can look at another guy and say, right, this guy, this is in comparison to me or whatever.
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His strengths are my weaknesses or my strengths and his weaknesses, right?
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Women will look at themselves and they won't do that same assessment.
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And it's that little bit of, you have to have humility and humbleness and you'll get
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When you ask a woman what about them, I'm a 10.
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I feel like there's a little animosity against women here.
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I have three nieces that I all directly look after.
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So, we take it quite insulting when a woman says, oh, we feel as if that you're any type
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Any type of animosity or anything, that's not what we're here for.
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What we're here for is to show how much love we have for women.
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In actual fact, we need to have these conversations.
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So, I take it quite personally when people try to create that image or perpetuate that
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Because if you don't know, I'm actually very much supportive of women.
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Did you know that women find 80% of men is unattractive?
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Have you ever heard the girl say, like, medium ugly?
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And the question is, if you find a guy attractive, he's probably the top 20% of men.
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Because women only swipe right between 5% and like 20% of the time.
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And if you ask 100% of women what they want in a man, they list 20% of men.
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And that's where you have eternal, like, side chicks, basically.
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I think to a certain degree, it depends on who you're asking, right?
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Yeah, like I said, a girl that just sleeps around.
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She's not interested in making a connection with a guy.
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And she's got the mindset that she can be like men where she can have sex without having any kind of emotional attachment to the guy.
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And she's not concerned about racking up guy after guy after guy.
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And to me, I consider that to be hoe-ish behavior.
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It's not behavior of a woman who's really interested in the long term.
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I don't feel like that's a good question to ask because if you do, it's always going to come back with a negative response or a lie.
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But Pearl, the reason I don't ask is because we don't have to ask.
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So there's certain questions you can ask and you know the body count.
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There's certain reactions that women with high body counts give off.
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Do you feel like, because as women, I think we know a little bit more behind the scenes than men typically do.
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Do you think that men can tell a girl's body count based off of like your friends and your friends' friends?
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In a way where there's a lot of girls that I knew back in the day that had no intention of sleeping around.
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But maybe they might have been with friends that have possibly done all of that.
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And then it makes it seem as if like, you do that shit too.
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So it kind of gets looked upon like you're one of them.
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But at the same time, birds of a feather do flock together.
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It doesn't necessarily have to mean that the girl's doing the same thing.
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But sometimes you have to carry yourself with the kind of people that you want to be like.
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So when the police pulls over your car, if he pulls over your car and three people in the car have known to for drugs, you're going to get searched as well.
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That's because you're in a car with three people that are known for drugs.
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You know, a lot of times in your area, there can be one good boy.
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But just because they're friends, you all stay together.
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And your mum might say to you, stop hanging around with those friends.
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Stop hanging around with those friends because they're not like you.
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But you hang around with those friends because they're your friends.
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Whenever you get stopped or whatever happens, you're going to be.
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And that's because a lot of the times, mud sticks.
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So if you don't want to be known as a ho or you don't want people to treat you like one,
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then if you hang around with girls that are a lot of hoes, then it makes it a lot harder for you to be the one that's actually different.
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So it doesn't mean you're a ho if you're hanging around with hoes.
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There can always be one good girl that generally is a good girl.
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But by rule of thumb, you might not want to hang around with people which don't have the same type of interests or activities as you.
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What are you doing when they all go out and they're upstairs in a room with man them?
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And maybe when it comes to like having sex with boys, that might not be the same topics that I might not be into.
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But like behind closed doors when we're not talking about boys and we're not talking about sex, they are like typical topics that are like, yeah, this is why I'm your friend.
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So whenever a girl gets a man, most girls have always got one ho friend.
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Most girls always got one ho friend and they know they're ho and they don't like to admit they're ho, but they're their ho friend.
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And whenever they get a new man, a lot of the times the man will clock this ho friend and he'll say certain things and he'll be like, that your friend, that your friend.
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He's not trying to call your friend a ho, but you don't want to call your friend a ho to your man.
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And, you know, as a guy, we always have to deal with that.
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And a lot of times those friends don't tend to hang around for too long after that person gets a man or whatever.
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It's because your whole life doesn't represent what they live anymore.
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And I'm trying to say to you, she wants to be going out and doing certain things.
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And now you've got a man and maybe your man don't want you to be there because she's rightly single.
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She can go out and, you know, interact with other men and be taken to tables.
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But if you're out with her now, you automatically put yourself in a predicament where other men can now start speaking to you.
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And if she is a ho and known for being a ho out in the club, every single guy in there is going to see you as a ho.
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And there's nothing worse than being seen as something that you're not and people treating you like that.
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And your man hearing that, oh, your girl's out with some ho in a nightclub.
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Do you guys think it's appropriate to go out in a relationship?
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It's like, why are you fishing if you don't want to fish?
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I mean, that's just, I'm just telling you guys how men view it.
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Like, if you're going out all the time, it's like, you can say like, I'm not a hoe, right?
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But if all your friends are hoes, you're going out to the club all the time.
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It's like, you're dressing like a hoe, acting like a hoe.
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It's like, how are they supposed to think you're not a hoe?
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It's like, it's like, it's the same thing with a guy.
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If he, if he hangs around a bunch of friends that all cheat, if he, if he looks like he's cheating,
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And you'll fall in love because women love being cheated on.
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Well then if you don't trust your partner, that is a problem in itself.
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But like, why would you put yourself in that situation?
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Like, I just think if you truly respect the guy you're with, like, you wouldn't want to do anything that would make him look bad.
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And it makes a guy like, like, as a woman, you want to make your man look good.
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And so when you're dressing like a hoe taking, going out with your whole friends to the club where they're all hooking up with guys.
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And then you're saying, oh, they're all doing it, but not me.
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I promise I won't flirt with anyone, but I'm going to the one place where we're bound to get hit on.
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It's like, you look bad as a girl and you make him look bad.
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So we're typically, we're talking about girls that have ho friends.
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And when they go out, not just girls in general, we're just talking about the hoes when they go out.
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Everybody, I guess, has different points of views.
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Well, meaning men have different points of views when it comes to women.
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I think if it's new for you, then I always ask myself, like, what types of men have you had?
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That's why I said I've been single for 10 years because I don't go out with men and I don't do that.
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I have. That doesn't necessarily mean I was in a relationship.
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Okay. So, so, but you see, this is the thing that women do.
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So what you was initially, I was thinking, Oh, for 10 years, she's out.
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I've been out the game. She is, you know, no, you haven't.
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Like, so you've been in the game enough to able to have sex, but not in the game enough.
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Not enough to secure a man a proper relationship.
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Women can have sex any day of the, any day of the, of the week.
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Wait, I can't keep a man because I haven't been in a relationship for 10 years.
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Well, well, yeah, it just, it just means that the men you want, don't want you.
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I have dated men and they have not given me or made me feel like I was safe enough to
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That doesn't necessarily mean that I've had sex with multiple men.
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Doesn't necessarily mean that the person that I've had sex with, I want to be in a relationship
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That's can, that can still be my choice and that can still be okay.
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So when I say it's okay for me to be single for 10 years without a relationship, I think that's very normal.
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Like nowadays it's not uncommon, but it's because modern women are side chicks.
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It's, it's, this is how relationships, I'm not even saying this like to be me.
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It's just, this is how relationships start nowadays.
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They start like, how many times have you heard of a situationship?
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So, and it seems like you've been in a situationship.
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Then what, what else would you call sleeping with someone?
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And so, so if you're in a friends with benefits situation, that's uncommitted.
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I feel like a side chick is when somebody's in a relationship with somebody and then they're
00:30:05.100
No, a side chick is when you're one of many chicks.
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Let me tell you, as a man, as a man, as a man, this, this thing of where you women have
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to believe there has to be a main in order for me to be a side chick.
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If you are one of a selection, you're a side chick.
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Stop thinking that he has to have a main one where he looks after.
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I'm not, but I understand, I understand what you're saying, but I'm not.
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If you were sleeping with a man and he wasn't your, he wasn't your boyfriend.
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And you wasn't, and he wasn't, and he wasn't, yes, he's single and so are you.
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Now we're doing, yes, it's grown things, but those grown things still amount to you being
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This is the majority of women in this day and age.
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I'm not saying it's not, I'm not saying it's uncommon.
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It's like, that's how, I mean, that's how most relationships start.
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When I ask people, like it usually starts as a situation ship.
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Most women start as side chicks in the West, I will say in the West.
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And then a lot of the time they put pressure on the guy to get into a relationship.
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But we can see, in case you don't know, this is, this is a phrase that people say, okay.
00:31:19.100
Um, women control sex, men control access to relationships.
00:31:22.100
So unless you're going to get down on one knee and give me a gold Rolex and ask me to
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be a husband, then what you have to do is you have to fall in your femininity and long
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Then I'm going to be like, Oh my gosh, this girl is better than all the rest of the women.
00:31:36.100
I'm going to go to the jewelers and buy a ring and give it to you.
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And in order for this to happen, you have to understand that process.
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But the moment you give a guy sex stays after that, you've given him everything already.
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So there's no, there's no need for him to actually make you into his girl or his wife.
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The, the need to make into his girl or his wife is because you possess something that
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If it's just sex and you give it away and you're not a virgin to give it to other men,
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then we don't consider it as, as something special.
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But I think at some level, yeah, unless you're saying you don't want to be, you don't
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want a husband, you don't, then at some level you're going to want something.
00:32:16.100
So, so a lot of the things you do in the past can affect the guy that you actually meet
00:32:28.100
He knows everything that I've done in my past and it's fine.
00:32:31.100
But what we're talking about, you know, men, we like to feel special.
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And in a world today where women are running up body counts and stuff, none of us want to
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feel like the woman we've chosen, we wasn't her first choice.
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I didn't know if you were still talking about me.
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In this moment, I'm not directly aiming at you.
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I'm just saying, because you said you were sat in for 10 years.
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I was just like, we consider it as something like this.
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I'm just simply trying to say just as a man, just listen to it from our point of view.
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If you've never heard it like this before, just listen and just take it on board a little bit.
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So you see over the last 10 years when you've been in those situationships, whatever they were.
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And at any time during that situation, did you want him to be a boyfriend?
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And then I didn't want him to be my boyfriend, no.
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Firstly, what happened at the start that didn't make it become a relationship?
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And secondly, why did you afterwards not want him to be a boyfriend?
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My mum passed away and I felt like I didn't have anybody.
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So the person that wanted me, I was okay with doing the sexing.
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I felt like that was the direction we was going.
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I realized it wasn't, understood what I could still get from him.
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And after a while, once I was done, I'd be both part of that ways.
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But if he had wanted to be your boyfriend during that time, it would have been a relationship, right?
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It's almost like when you got what you wanted, you didn't want it anymore.
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I understood the person that I was sleeping with and I didn't want to be in a relationship with him.
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But I was okay with doing what we was doing from the start.
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So you carried on sleeping with him after you realized that there was no...
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But I guess in terms of the relationship itself or the situation itself, I think it still stands that with guys, if he had wanted a relationship at the beginning, you would have had a relationship.
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I guess, you know, the fact that he didn't want a relationship at the beginning might have been why you didn't want it afterwards.
00:35:03.100
But it still kind of stays consistent with the point that if a guy shows interest that he wants to have a relationship, that's really the deciding factor in a lot of cases.
00:35:11.100
When it comes to actually having sex, it's more the girl that makes that deciding decision.
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So, you know, I think when we look at someone who hasn't had a relationship for a certain amount of time, we normally work on the basis that that's because the guy didn't want it.
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So I don't think I was in my head about it in a way.
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And then I felt a type of way, but understood maybe I wasn't ready to be in a relationship after my vulnerable state after going through therapy.
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I understood that this isn't something that I wanted life long term.
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It wasn't something that I wanted to endure, have kids, marry with him.
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It's like my height, like five, six, five, seven.
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Usually I just find that usually like, if, if a girl, like, it's usually looks.
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Might have been a bit easier if it was about looking.
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But it's just because like, my head was everywhere at the time.
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We've, we've turned out to be really, really good friends.
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I didn't know if you guys were going to tell her.
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I was like, this is getting like kind of spicy.
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If she, she gets married someday, are you, are you?
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I mean, what if, what if her, her new man said, Oh, so what if your new man said like,
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You know, if you pass up on him, it's like that you're not getting better.
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I don't, I don't date girls that don't have guy friends.
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If you want to be with me, I'm looking for a wife.
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And if you want to be with me, I don't, I don't date girls with guy friends.
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Um, that's hard because the guy that I love would never say that to me, but in this moment,
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I'll answer it because it will be a black and white moment.
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So you would, you would pass up on the, I would pass up on the guy for, for him.
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Cause he shouldn't ever make me feel like there was an ultimatum to invite somebody up no longer
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See, this is like every time guys have a standard, I don't think you're doing it intentionally,
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but you kind of, you kind of shame them for doing it.
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So if a guy says like, I don't, I don't want to date a girl with a bunch of guy friends
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I don't want to date a girl that goes to the club.
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Like that's, that's controlling and it's not controlling.
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What if it was the other way around and you're the guy has his ex as his close friend.
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Cause if you look at us, for example, like there hasn't been any sexual history in like
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But if you, if like, when she was seeing the other guy, me and him was cool.
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I used to go around to the house and chill with the both of them.
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It's because we was friends before we got into a relationship.
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And then after we realized that we can't be in a relationship.
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No, like I've, what you guys have done is you guys should have just got it together.
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Instead, you guys have played games, gone into the world and you still kept this connection.
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See, as a man, this is giving me all types of red flags.
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So the first, so the first thing I'm going to say.
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But the first thing I want to say as a man is, as a man, is you, if you've got a potential
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husband or boyfriend and he said to you, I'm not comfortable with, with male friends
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And if you use that as a thing to label him as insecure, I was controlling.
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But I'm, I'm, I'm saying if you consider it as, as a problem, then you really don't know
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Cause when you get a man that actually wants you and you speak like this, he's going
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And there's no way she could be having a barrage of male friends around her.
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Yes, she can, she can know males and they had them before in her life and what
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But once I'm on the scene, no men can be calling her phone.
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She can't be saying I'm going to be out with some, with some guy friends.
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If we're out and male friends see her, she needs to do that.
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Because that means all your male friends got to go, you know, every person that you know,
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every person that you know got to come out cause it's disrespectful.
00:41:38.100
If you outside and you have five or six different men that come to hug you in front of your man,
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Cause if I saw you with your man and he was my friend, I would do that.
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I would know respectfully not to come over there and to start hugging you up in front
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Like guys, like you have to understand, like respect to men is love.
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Like men don't feel loved if they don't feel respected.
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And your job as a woman is to make them look good.
00:42:06.100
And this goes back to, does it, does it look good to a guy to have his girl hugging the
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whole football team, hugging the whole basketball team, hugging, hugging the whole rap scene.
00:42:14.100
But I think, sorry to cut you, but I feel like you guys have the wrong picture of our friendship,
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honestly, because what you are saying, I would, I understand because personally, if I was,
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if I started seeing a girl and she told me that she has this really close friend that she had
00:42:30.100
history with, obviously I'm always going to feel naturally, wait, pause, pause, pause.
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I'm always going to feel some type of way about it.
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However, when the guy comes into the picture and she's seeing the guy.
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I will make him feel comfortable because I'm not trying to cause no situations because I respect her.
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And I respect the fact that she's now found a new person.
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We don't make each other's new counterparts feel some type of way because we have history.
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And our history again is such a long time ago that now it's like.
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What if he says he's not comfortable despite your efforts?
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If he says he's not comfortable to his girlfriend, then I would walk away.
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Right now his girlfriend has just said that she wouldn't listen to what he's saying.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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And this is why I say women love the street so much because you have a man that's prepared
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He's prepared to literally take you on as his wife.
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All the things you've been talking about for the last 10 years you haven't had.
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And the simple thing he says is you've got an ex that used to blow your back out.
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No, no, but this is how men think you want to talk about how this is how we think.
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This is how some men think, but the types of men you are attracted to think like that.
00:43:50.100
Because if not, you would have picked one of these guys in your comments on your DMS
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You haven't given them a chance because these are the guys you don't see.
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You don't see these guys, but the guys you do see are the ones that speak like this
00:44:07.100
And if you want to look at it, look at it as this is new information you never heard before.
00:44:14.100
Unless you're willing to go for the guys which you'd never look at.
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These are the guys which will let you have him as a friend because they've been trying
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to try to take you out for years and they want to see you.
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The types of guys that meet you and they speak like me.
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But all of that stuff cuts off now that I'm involved.
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I think the bigger issue is that he might be cool with it.
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But the whole point is that his girl won't listen to him.
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That's the big problem right there as far as I'm concerned.
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He might meet the guy and say, yeah, you know, I respect your relationship.
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But if he turns around and says, I'm not comfortable with it.
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And the girlfriend turns around and says she's not going to listen to him.
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She doesn't respect him and she doesn't value the relationship enough.
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The moment a girl says that to me, bro, I can't lie.
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Yeah, basically that if your girl said that she had a friend that is an ex, but she would
00:45:04.100
like to bring him around you that you would feel some type of way because me personally,
00:45:07.100
if my girl that I'm seeing said that she has a friend and she doesn't mind bringing me
00:45:10.100
around him, then it's like it proves to me that there's not really nothing to hide.
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I'm not expecting them to be close because me and I don't speak every single day and I'm
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phoning her 24-7 because that's how you are making it seem.
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No, but you're fighting for it like you do that.
00:45:33.100
So for example, if you guys were friends and you might occasionally bump into each other
00:45:36.100
and, you know, maybe at a family barbecue or something, we don't even have to have
00:45:40.100
this conversation, but the conversation you guys are giving me is the one where, you know
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what, we played in the sandpit together, we dated for this, our family's still close, you
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Why don't you just get with him then and just fix it?
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Because why can't it be a thing where I respect his mum enough to call her auntie and
00:46:01.100
go over for some jollof and have a good time with the family because I don't have my mum
00:46:07.100
But you have a man who you're supposed to be building that relationship with.
00:46:10.100
I believe in him and I will definitely go through that journey.
00:46:13.100
But to think I'm disrespecting my husband because I'm friends with a man.
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But I think though, it's not that you're friends with a man.
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I might not agree with this, but I respect your judgment.
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But like men don't want an argumentative woman.
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And what you're doing is rather that you're not listening to me.
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You keep trying to say, but you're actually not listening to me.
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By the way you're acting and what you're saying to me, we classify that as cheating.
00:46:54.100
See, not agreeing is that part where you're going to kick back.
00:46:58.100
And the types of men that will allow you to do this, you do not check for.
00:47:04.100
So the types of men that will allow this to happen, you do not check for.
00:47:07.100
So what I'm saying as a man and what this other gentleman is saying as a man is that if you, if I take you as my missus and I'm serious about you.
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If you cannot do something like this to go into the, then it's fine.
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But this is why I say modern women are for the streets and they want to stay in the streets because when you've got a man that's all you want to show is that a bit of commitment from you.
00:47:35.100
But that seems a little bit farfetched because nobody said I'm going out no matter what you said or I'm going to go and see him.
00:47:42.100
When we, we asked you if he said this, what would you do?
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And you said, no, I would still do what I'm going to do.
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You remind me of a lot of women that I've met and I've dealt with and like, you look the part.
00:48:12.100
And when you talk, you have a nice tone of voice.
00:48:13.100
But when we say certain things, as soon as we say, I get to see your eyes start rolling back and you want to kick back with it.
00:48:23.100
I've never heard these point of views and it's good to be open about these kinds of conversations.
00:48:33.100
So have you ever spoke to your brothers about relationships?
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I was wondering, I was like, wow, they must have been friends for a while.
00:48:56.100
I guess they have their own different views on relationships.
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Like, obviously you're the, okay, so you're their older sister.
00:49:10.100
So obviously they're slightly, um, they're slightly junior to you.
00:49:14.100
So a lot of the times is brothers would, would speak to their sisters, but they, they
00:49:20.100
So obviously you're, so you're older than them.
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I don't know, obviously your relationship with your father.
00:49:25.100
I don't know any of those types of stuff, but I tend to think that a lot of times girls
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have had friends that are men and they, and they speak to them.
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One or two guys will be real and be like, yo, this is what it is.
00:49:35.100
Like, like, so when you have a real guy that's real, that he should be saying to you, everything
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I'm saying is, it's not some, it's not some fallacy.
00:49:43.100
It's not some idea that, that, that I've just, just, just create, create out my head.
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As you said, they're not going to care about body count.
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Cause they're not going to be around long enough to care about it.
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They're going to run it up and give it to your husband.
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So when, when you're saying, Oh, I've never heard this before, it's because why would they
00:50:02.100
So how are you women supposed to learn about it if you go and see it?
00:50:11.100
And there should be a father in the home, but a lot of like women weren't raised by wives
00:50:21.100
I don't know anyone's backstory here, but I'm just saying in general, like your dads are
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I mean, I don't have all the same views as her.
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Um, I, I kind of agree with what you're saying, but only because I know the relationship, like
00:50:45.100
I would understand why it would be hard for her to just like kick him to the side for
00:50:49.100
a man who possibly could be gone one day, whereas he's probably never going to leave
00:50:54.100
And also just to say, if the guy did have a problem with me being in a situation, I would
00:51:00.100
Yeah, but they're saying you're not the problem.
00:51:08.100
It just comes down to, um, comes down to the, to the woman's decision.
00:51:12.100
And the willingness to get like, to put that aside for, to make him happy.
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And then soon, your first answer is the answer that lets us know.
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And when we start kicking back, it's like, it's like, if you're going to wear something
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out, I love the fact that my girl's going to send me what she's wearing out.
00:51:38.100
Or do you think, and if I, do you think this is too much, too much skin?
00:51:40.100
And if I say that she's going to change it, not because, not because I'm trying to stop
00:51:46.100
No, I'm just like, Oh, maybe that one's a little bit, you know what I'm trying to say?
00:51:49.100
Like you're giving a bit too much of what you shouldn't be giving.
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Um, and men, we'd like to be a part of the process.
00:51:57.100
We see you can go out, but when you start going out too much, or if you start going out
00:52:02.100
with single friends or potentially you go to places where, you know, maybe the vibe isn't
00:52:07.100
It could have been drama or things that have happened in the past.
00:52:10.100
You know what I'm trying to say to you, but we're not trying to stop a woman from ever
00:52:12.100
going out, but we'll get concerned when you start going out too much and you put yourself
00:52:16.100
in situations where men can start hitting up to you.
00:52:21.100
And, and you know, whenever people say I made a mistake or I was drunk, that's never happened
00:52:26.100
when someone wasn't drunk and they didn't make a mistake.
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So you have to take a lot of these scenarios out and we know women cheat as much as men
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And if we talk about women having, women are the ones with the gateway, gateway, sorry,
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the gatekeepers, the sex, then once you add in nightclub, once you're adding out with
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a single whole friends, once you're adding alcohol, once you're adding all of these other
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factors and the fact that you can make a mistake, we're human.
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How about we just try to just take away some of these factors.