JustPearlyThings - Delusional Woman ARGUES a Doctor on ABORTION

00:00:00.160 i'm curious so you're a doctor yeah did you like what's your experience with have you ever

00:00:05.760 like worked with doctors that have done abortions or what's your oh wow uh yeah i actually have

00:00:10.480 a friend who ran bpass the largest abortion provider in the country she was the ceo but

00:00:14.880 she's a very sincere honest woman who thinks she's doing the right thing for women and so

00:00:19.200 you know um yeah we we have a good friendship um i have plenty of colleagues who do abortions i

00:00:25.120 obviously disagree with them you know in the hippocratic oath it's it literally explicitly

00:00:29.120 says i will not do abortions it's been pretty pretty integral to the medical profession for

00:00:33.440 centuries and centuries um i did not know that yeah it's um most people don't know actually

00:00:39.760 someone said did you not take an oath why are you pro-life and the oath literally says you can't do

00:00:43.920 abortion so it's um it's pretty wild um yeah for me you know this is this is an issue that is both

00:00:50.400 ethical but it's also medical like when you look at the outcomes women who have abortions for an

00:00:56.000 unwanted pregnancy this is women who have an unwanted pregnancy if you have an abortion you

00:01:00.240 have a 30 increased risk of anxiety a 70 increased risk of suicide a 130 increased risk of alcohol

00:01:08.080 abuse and a 300 increased risk of drug abuse and that's if you don't have one if you if you have

00:01:14.160 an if you have one yeah yeah compared to the same women with the same previous psychiatric issues the

00:01:19.280 same socioeconomic stuff the same unwanted pregnancy correlation doesn't equal causation there could be a

00:01:25.520 number of variables for those reasons but that's why they take into account all of those things so

00:01:29.520 they adjust for socioeconomic status for previous psychiatric history for domestic violence for all

00:01:34.480 sorts of things and they find even when you keep those constant the women who have abortions have

00:01:38.720 much worse mental health out well and i and i think it's just common sense to be honest this is why

00:01:43.840 sometimes i'm like you don't even need to study to tell you that like i know women that have had

00:01:47.280 abortions they're never happy after the women that are keeping them are more likely to be in happy

00:01:52.400 relationships in the first place if they have the support they're going to have better but this

00:01:55.760 is like you it's always a cope it's always there's something you know it's like coping you know women

00:02:03.360 have never heard that argument when when we're talking about um when we're talking about um pay gap

00:02:11.600 so you would never hear a woman say well there are so many other factors that could contribute to it

00:02:17.120 but it's funny how to say that for abortion that was never my argument either if you want to yell

00:02:21.440 about we weren't talking about you well he was pointing at me i said it's funny how we never hear

00:02:27.840 women but i think it's funny it's so it's so funny it's just something i notice with girls it's always

00:02:33.840 like they take the argument and it's like they always use me but it's not about you well here i was

00:02:38.160 the one saying it and he was looking at me i'm not even talking about you i'm talking about in general

00:02:43.920 um so you said you're i'm curious can you tell me what happens during an abortion

00:02:50.800 yeah it really depends on the kind of abortion so there's two main kinds there's medical which

00:02:55.040 means using pills or they're surgical so in a medical abortion you take two pills the first pill

00:03:00.080 will you know deprive the baby of oxygen and nutrients so that it basically suffocates and then

00:03:05.120 the second pill misoprostol will eject the baby and cause you know labor and cause a miscarriage

00:03:10.560 at a very late stage because the baby could be born alive like if you do this at 22 weeks the baby

00:03:15.360 might come out of the womb alive you have to perform a procedure called fetus side which you

00:03:19.920 can guess what that means it's the killing of a fetus and that's one of the reasons for thinking this

00:03:24.160 is a living thing right they wouldn't call it fetus side if it wasn't alive wait so they'll they'll kill

00:03:28.720 it after it comes out no no so what they do is before they do the abortion they will put a needle

00:03:34.320 through the mummy mother's tummy and they will stick it into the baby's heart or sometimes into

00:03:39.200 the head and they will pump in potassium chloride and that will kill the baby now this has been banned

00:03:45.120 potassium chloride in capital punishment so if you look at human rights groups they say you cannot use

00:03:50.480 this chemical in capital punishment because it's inhumane to kill rapists and murderers this way

00:03:56.880 but this is exactly the same chemical they use to perform fetus side in late-term abortions

00:04:01.280 abortions now those are a small number but you know they still occur there's still um hundreds

00:04:05.680 of them each year in in this country surgical abortions are quite different at an early stage

00:04:10.320 you use a vacuum so that basically vacuums the baby and destroys the baby through the force of

00:04:15.600 the vacuum after about 12 13 14 weeks the baby is too kind of big and tough to be vacuumed and so

00:04:21.760 you have to dismember it so you basically just pull the limbs off the baby bit by bit um it's horrible to

00:04:27.200 think about horrible to say i don't like saying it but it's just the reality it's a dismembering

00:04:31.280 basically um if the baby's head is too big to remove from the womb they will have to crush the

00:04:36.960 head um bring it out so it's it's pretty horrendous um and if you read academic papers where abortion

00:04:44.240 providers give their thoughts on it many of them say actually this is terrible many abortion providers

00:04:49.680 say i'm only going to do it up to 12 weeks because after that it's just um so it's it's something that

00:04:55.680 you know most abortions are in the first trimester i'm not pretending that most abortions are these horrible

00:05:00.720 gruesome late-term things but just as an example there are 3 000 abortions in this country after 20

00:05:06.480 weeks each year so after 20 weeks five months when the baby's pretty much viable 3 000 abortions take

00:05:14.080 place by those sorts of methods and so it's still something that you know if 3 000 children were being

00:05:19.360 killed by that method in any other circumstance we'd say that's way too many that's 3 000 too many

00:05:24.800 um yeah sorry that was very deep and heavy so what what happens in the first one you said they're

00:05:29.440 deprived of nutrients can i challenge you on that because i've looked up both of these drugs so you

00:05:34.320 spoke about my mysoprostol but mifopristone is the the first one that's more common it's an

00:05:40.480 anti-progestogen yes and it causes the cervix and uterine vessels to dilate um and then it causes a

00:05:45.920 contraction i don't see in anywhere where it's like doing what you're saying yeah so it has a number of

00:05:51.920 mechanisms so um there's you know three or four or five different ways that it acts but the main

00:05:56.400 thing that it does if you search online it will say it breaks down the uterine lining so it basically

00:06:01.760 breaks down the connection between the mother and the baby and of course that connection is what's

00:06:05.600 providing the oxygen and so on sometimes the baby does survive it um usually the baby is killed by the

00:06:12.240 deprivation of oxygen if it does survive then it would be the contractions of the uterus that will

00:06:17.280 you know squash it and usually end its life yes so essentially the drugs that would i mean some of

00:06:22.960 these drugs are still used for induction of labor and such and well one of them is also used for

00:06:28.000 stomach ulcers or something so i i i find it i don't know i feel like the way that you said it

00:06:35.040 especially for the first drug it it felt more emotional especially since because they're having

00:06:40.000 these uh abortions so early on when you're saying survive depriving the baby of oxygen is it breathing

00:06:47.760 because i don't think it's breathing is it no so it gets oxygen through the umbilical cord but no

00:06:54.640 matter how you're getting oxygen if you're deprived of it you will still have the same yes but i think

00:06:58.400 using words like breathing invokes an emotional response in all of us and we're thinking oh it's this

00:07:03.200 little thing that's why i didn't say breathing you said breathing oh i think you did you said

00:07:08.240 it puts off the oxygen yeah okay you didn't i i said it deprived of oxygen i didn't say it was

00:07:14.080 breathing you know the the oxygen is coming through the umbilical cord um and that is just how it works

00:07:19.520 now i'm not saying the baby is conscious from the moment of conception i don't believe that i'm not

00:07:24.240 trying to pretend that from the moment of conception the baby will feel things and will always feel

00:07:28.400 something during an abortion but certainly by the end of the first trimester i think is extremely

00:07:32.880 likely and we don't know exactly when consciousness begins but it probably does begin within the first

00:07:38.880 trimester and at that point if you deprive the baby of oxygen it doesn't matter whether you're you know

00:07:44.000 covering its head or just cutting the umbilical cord or whatever when your body is deprived of oxygen

00:07:50.720 if you are conscious then you know that will that will affect you and that is what causes the the demise of

00:07:57.360 the yes but i i guess with the consciousness argument it does not bother me because babies

00:08:03.120 don't even get self-awareness to 15 odd months and i don't advocate for throwing babies into dumpsters so

00:08:08.320 the consciousness that a thing this small has is relatively irrelevant in my opinion obviously not

00:08:13.600 to everyone else here so why don't you think it has self-awareness till 15 months because it doesn't

00:08:18.800 pass the mirror test until around then you can't acknowledge that it exists in it but that doesn't mean i

00:08:23.920 think babies should be thrown in dumpsters just because it doesn't have self-awareness capabilities

00:08:28.080 yet it hasn't even reached stage one it doesn't mean that i don't think it is an entity that is

00:08:32.320 existing that should be protected and has protection sure but i think most neurologists and psychologists

00:08:38.240 would say the mirror test is not a good test of self-awareness well it doesn't pass any self-awareness

00:08:42.560 tests until around that age but again but i don't think it's important because i don't advocate for

00:08:48.800 destruction of babies when they're born so whether the whether there is any like valuable consciousness

00:08:56.400 there doesn't really matter too much to me so you think if it feels excruciating pain as like a

00:09:01.120 newborn baby that doesn't matter no i don't think pain matters no i sound like a sociopath now but it's

00:09:08.640 pain is a very little of consequence to me it's a when you're dead you won't feel it i mean they used

00:09:14.960 to think that newborn babies don't feel pain so they used to do surgery on newborn babies because

00:09:20.080 they said these newborn babies can't feel pain they're not sufficiently conscious they're not

00:09:24.160 sufficiently self-aware and so they would just do surgery on newborn babies without any painkillers

00:09:28.800 without any anesthesia but they changed that a few decades ago because there was a pretty

00:09:34.320 unanimous consensus within medical science that newborn babies can feel pain even if they can't pass the

00:09:40.400 mirror test yes but if well regardless of when they feel pain if they are not of any kind of valuable

00:09:51.840 consciousness to me which i don't think they gain until much older it doesn't matter because it's just

00:10:00.640 trying to put an emotional response on a blob it is not an entity that is developed enough for anything

00:10:08.720 to be of any importance the pain receptors are just irrelevant to me it doesn't know of its

00:10:15.040 existence it doesn't know of its pain so why does the pain matter if it doesn't know of it um can i

00:10:20.400 just say if if you was in um i have consciousness and self-awareness i'm not a blob yes i've never heard

00:10:29.360 of anyone calling it a blob but that that's crazy to me crazy can i just ask you a question no no no

00:10:35.200 listen let me just let me just say if it was proven that um that you what if they thought you couldn't

00:10:44.400 feel pain i mean they still do that with a lot of female procedures they don't give you when you was

00:10:49.520 in a coma or something yeah and they start doing poking you and putting needles in you and doing things

00:10:57.200 and you woke up and was able to say like hello i felt all that but it doesn't matter but it doesn't

00:11:06.080 matter because you was unconscious i have self-awareness and i would be able to experience

00:11:10.400 the pain it wouldn't just be pain receptors babies have been proven to you know like babies are talk

00:11:17.040 before they like younger they're getting younger and younger and finding out that babies can talk and

00:11:22.080 do things and memory is real memory is real so how have you got no consciousness if you if you

00:11:30.000 are so can you remember being in the womb that would be impressive if he was not unconscious and

00:11:35.600 someone beat you up and you woke up and you had bruises all over your body would you not be upset about

00:11:40.240 that if i was unconscious i wouldn't be feeling anything would i yeah but it doesn't matter whether

00:11:44.000 you're unconscious or not you still got assaulted i don't know what point you're trying to get at i'm

00:11:49.120 going to because you're saying because you're saying that if someone's unconscious or there's

00:11:52.960 no consciousness of of of uh of uh yes but it's temporary and then i wake up so it's not the same

00:11:59.360 is it but the fact that you still got beat up do you get it it's not it's not the fact that you're

00:12:04.800 unconscious you're talking about oh because i'm unconscious it's fine it's fine because i'm

00:12:07.920 uncle so if a woman gets if a woman and it's if a woman gets great if great happened to a woman but

00:12:12.640 she was unconscious it's fine because she was unconscious right but that's basically what you're saying

00:12:17.600 no i'm not if you would listen you said 15 months i exist as an entity with self-awareness

00:12:24.560 yeah but it's different but are you a scientist what difference do you do you know you've just

00:12:31.200 googled stuff and you're finding stuff have you physically done uh like uh anything and found things

00:12:38.960 out for yourself with a baby with a baby no no no no have you have you with a newborn baby

00:12:46.880 have you found anything out yourself or are you just going off words of people that you don't

00:12:53.040 even know what are you on about everything you are saying everyone goes off everything other people

00:12:58.800 have wrote written or read or said yeah like what is your point but my point is i don't take everything

00:13:04.400 and go it's a blob like that to me that to me you don't have to be that crude that to me it's like

00:13:12.240 it's a blob come on if you have consciousness why haven't you have you not got a soul are you soulless

00:13:20.080 this is why i told my story to start with so no everyone would think i'm a sociopath that's crazy

00:13:25.360 to me i'm like in the middle but that everything you just said that's offensive like like if you if

00:13:32.320 it was your baby imagine this if it was her baby imagine someone assaulted that newborn baby i'm mad

00:13:41.200 that means it's okay it's okay because it's okay it's okay it's all right my child got assaulted

00:13:45.280 because it's okay i never said this and a child is an existing entity okay but but you've just said

00:13:51.120 it doesn't matter if they're unconscious it's so unconscious and they're not conscious what you're

00:13:55.200 saying you're interpreting things from what i've said that i but if it was your child it would be

00:14:00.160 different right i don't make arguments from emotion which is what you are doing but but if it was

00:14:05.520 your child you're trying to make oh if you're saying i'm unemotional and sociopathic but also

00:14:13.360 i'm making no one said you're sociopathic you said you were sociopathic i know i sound that way

00:14:18.320 you know but you said that no one else has said that so you're putting that out there you are you

00:14:23.600 that's the energy you want you want people to believe that you're sociopathic and i don't know

00:14:28.080 maybe it's for attention maybe you're saying all this blobby stuff to get like a viral that's just

00:14:34.640 i don't know what that but that is effed up i'm sorry that is next level soulless like come on if

00:14:45.360 it was your baby i know for a fact i would bet my life on it you would think different if it was your

00:14:51.520 baby but it's not but you're talking about all these different babies talking about a hundred

00:14:56.480 percent if you had a baby it would be different i think that what if you was upset about something

00:15:03.360 that happened to your child because it was unconscious and then someone else said it don't

00:15:06.720 matter what you're crying for your child's unconscious get over it get her over it because

00:15:10.880 you're being dumb and conflating an actual child with a very early i'm not being dumb you said that

00:15:16.640 if some if an entity or a child or it doesn't matter if a human is unconscious then it doesn't

00:15:21.680 matter because they're not feeling anything i didn't say that well you said that you want me to

00:15:26.560 say what i said because everyone's i can tell you exactly what you said you said that a child doesn't

00:15:31.600 have um self-awareness to a certain age so that's why the pain doesn't matter that's what you said no

00:15:36.800 you said the pain doesn't matter you did you said the pain doesn't matter because the child cannot

00:15:41.120 pass the mirror test until a certain age that's exactly what i said the reason why is i don't

00:15:47.280 value consciousness is because a child doesn't pass the mirror test till then that doesn't mean i

00:15:52.000 think that babies should be thrown in dumpsters i think that they are you also said the pain doesn't

00:15:56.880 matter because they don't pass the mirror test that's what you said the pain doesn't matter yeah

00:16:01.600 yeah if they are it's like how do we all hear the same thing but we're the dumb ones if they're an

00:16:06.800 early pregnancy that has never achieved a consciousness that matters they will not be

00:16:11.120 able to understand the pain the example they used was if they can't understand the or understand or

00:16:17.440 like live in the pain in some way this is like the last just makes up words i swear to god you can

00:16:24.000 actually rewind it because she said she said what she said that but she also followed it up by saying it's a

00:16:31.600 up to a certain age can't pass the mirror test so the pain doesn't matter i think we can actually

00:16:37.280 you know it's like i think i think even pro-choice people are gonna be like proper like flabbergasted

00:16:46.560 by what you just said even pro pro-choice people i know even pro-choice people are gonna be like

00:16:54.080 what did you just say did you just i actually i'm so i am so like taken aback by that

00:17:01.920 like i feel like a lot of things i feel like you are going to make many pro-choice people pro-life

00:17:11.120 by what you just said like you're saying that they're using emotion to to get people you just did

00:17:18.800 the opposite used in you was like yes that was like that was that was so said no one's saying

00:17:28.480 heartless and and and i i i have no like like i'm actually i don't know if you can see how shook i am

00:17:36.480 yes i have no that's so that is excuse me i'm so i'm dying attachment to an early pregnancy you've

00:17:43.040 got no emotional attachment to yourself mate like you've got like psychoanalyze so you literally you

00:17:49.680 literally i just said that babies don't feel pain so it doesn't matter what happens to them i said

00:17:57.200 everyone should protect their child from you that is who they should protect like that is crazy

00:18:05.200 okay girl i already said listen when we end this like we're in actual babies no listen when we end

00:18:10.480 this we draw a line yeah and we're friends and whatever and we smile and we say hi and i'm not

00:18:15.440 going to be funny yeah but i just want to make it clear i don't advocate for her like hurting actual

00:18:21.680 babies that have been born we know the pain doesn't you said pain doesn't matter when they are this small

00:18:27.200 no because they cannot experience well you said no no

JustPearlyThings - July 04, 2023

Delusional Woman ARGUES a Doctor on ABORTION

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