JustPearlyThings - June 22, 2023


Divorced Man Hasn't Seen His Kid For 2 Years

Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
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7 minutes

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1,169

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3

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2

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Summary

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In this episode, I speak to the mother of a young boy who was taken into care after being falsely accused of murdering his step-father and lost his family in the process of legal proceedings. This is the story of how the legal system failed him and how it led to his son being placed in care.

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00:00:00.000 thought where did the lawyers fall into this they capitulated at every my my own sorry gave up
00:00:10.880 without a fight at every opportunity so i did better representing myself not having a clue
00:00:18.160 what i i made progress in the private law why because i think they knew the rules of the game
00:00:28.000 they knew that well you're a man and there's a woman who just will not 1.00
00:00:32.960 relent she's implacably hostile it's another buzzword and they just will not question the woman
00:00:42.160 they cannot they won't question they won't do the lawyers won't even question the lawyers but i'm
00:00:48.720 confused because i'm supposed to interview a law firm soon well i think i think they're second
00:00:54.720 guessing now that they've seen my channel but but but they said because i i spoke to like the
00:01:00.640 woman who owns it and she was telling me that a lot of the men don't listen to advice
00:01:07.600 and this is just what they're saying right and they're also they also say that
00:01:13.200 um they don't have of course like of course they're going to help the men
00:01:16.720 like they don't have any incentive not to they only get paid
00:01:19.440 right if we help the men that's how we get clients okay so my question like why would they
00:01:25.680 not give you good advice because they could see the writing on the wall because they know that they
00:01:33.520 know how these they know how these cases play out they yes they did give a lot of advice they advised
00:01:42.400 me to quite frequently accept responsibility for things that i was accused of oh i have
00:01:52.480 i have this old-fashioned thing called integrity right and it's it's a bugger sometimes because they
00:01:59.040 want you to say put your hand up oh it was it was me oh i'm going to i'm going to meet you halfway on
00:02:05.360 this i'm going to meet you halfway on that but but if you have integrity you understand that there's
00:02:13.280 truth and untruth right and i'm going to say what is true i'm not going to start down that slippery
00:02:23.600 slope of saying yeah i it's partly my fault i i will go part the way but not you know because
00:02:31.440 because because you just know it's going to get even worse if you accept some liability then they
00:02:37.440 want you to accept more more and more and more and more until until and and they were the ones that
00:02:44.560 told you to get the psychologist yes that eventually that led to your son being put into care a lot of
00:02:50.960 the problem is that when we talk about teams of solicitors barristers lawyers that you're probably
00:02:57.520 imagining kind of monolithic group of people that follow me around throughout the proceedings right
00:03:04.560 that started seven years ago and i'm still in contact with them no there was a different
00:03:10.880 different one parachuted in every time so i never really got to build a relationship with any solicitor or
00:03:18.880 any barrister at all and that was difficult it was challenging because whenever a barrister would walk
00:03:25.040 through you think and they've got their little a4 piece of paper oh right okay well you've got to
00:03:32.240 um you've got to admit this this and this um we don't there's no point in a fact-finding hearing
00:03:39.680 uh because there's no point i mean well hang on we want i want a fact-finding hearing because i want
00:03:44.880 the truth to be out so some barristers would say yes we want a fact-finding hearing the next one would come
00:03:52.560 and say no we don't then the next one would say we do and i'm left thinking well i don't know so the
00:03:59.360 final order kind of reflects the confusion and what it needed really was a judge to to take control of it
00:04:08.080 and to do what needed to be done a judge wasn't willing to do that just playing the game okay so
00:04:14.960 and has there been any progress since your son was put into foster care
00:04:18.400 no well progress like do you get you haven't seen him since he's been in foster care i haven't
00:04:25.440 seen him for two and a half years no um the way it is
00:04:32.880 look there's another family okay there's another family i won't mention their names
00:04:39.760 i won't mention the names because they are as far as i'm aware going through the process as well now
00:04:45.680 when archie died was murdered um my son in time became best friends with another young lad okay
00:04:59.280 now this young lad was he was lovely he was um came from quite an upper class family and uh
00:05:07.760 uh you know in this country we have we have classes and it's probably more obvious where i live really
00:05:14.560 that's not to say the classes don't mix especially in rural areas a very small community one primary
00:05:20.960 school that sort of thing so but these were kind of seen as very respectable people pillars of the
00:05:27.120 community you would say um even in depressed nobility and all that sort of thing right so it's exactly
00:05:35.200 the sort of person you'd want your son to make friends with right and um so they they used to play
00:05:43.840 the army games that me and my son played and all that sort of thing and i used to converse with the
00:05:53.120 father who because i was being told i've been told a lot of bullshit right by the the local authority and 0.58
00:06:01.040 by the school i i know i didn't trust what they had to say because they'd always say oh yeah he's doing
00:06:07.520 well now he's doing far better now without you mr jones because he's in he's in care and we can do
00:06:14.640 with a state right so we can do everything we're perfect and yeah so much progress has been made
00:06:23.520 apparently but this the father of this this little boy knew better because he was involved he got to
00:06:30.560 see my son because play dates and that sort of thing so i was getting a very different picture painted
00:06:36.240 by him uh while i was getting back from local authority was well your son doesn't want to see
00:06:42.400 you eventually he's scared of you um he hated playing the games he used to play by the way
00:06:50.160 um he only went camping he only played soldiers with you because he was scared of him 0.97
00:06:55.440 and this this other father said well this this is rubbish your your son goes on about you all the 0.97
00:07:03.520 time he he worships you he plays all the same games with with his boy um and the police are telling you 0.99
00:07:13.360 that or the school the social services are telling you that oh that's yeah so that they they occasionally
00:07:20.880 give me updates but really the social services do not want to engage with me at all after he's in care
00:07:28.480 it's all very reluctant and they really want to end