JustPearlyThings - August 01, 2023


Doctor Narrates The SADDEST Abortion Story


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9 minutes

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1,971

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150

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20

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4

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In this episode, we talk about abortion and birth control. Is it safe to have an abortion at any point in pregnancy? Is it possible for a baby to feel pain at this point? Is there any evidence that a baby can feel pain? Is birth control safe to use after 6 months of pregnancy? We talk about the pros and cons of birth control and abortion.

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00:00:00.000 Ban it, ban birth control, you know what I mean?
00:00:02.320 I'm pretty sure it has had ecological consequences,
00:00:05.300 which, you know, the environmentalists
00:00:07.480 should be freaking out about as well, and...
00:00:09.200 I'm waiting for them.
00:00:10.380 I don't know if they have done.
00:00:11.660 I'm sure there's some, like, really sincere person
00:00:13.680 somewhere that has done it,
00:00:14.660 and they're being, like, told, shut up, you're not...
00:00:17.000 This is women's liberation. 1.00
00:00:18.620 And there's some, like, old-school, like,
00:00:20.640 guy who really cares about water hygiene,
00:00:22.440 who's like, no, but it's really hard for you to do it.
00:00:25.360 But, yeah, you know, this is something
00:00:26.860 we have to have a serious conversation about,
00:00:28.560 but it makes too much money for the people in power
00:00:30.720 that we can't do that.
00:00:31.940 So, okay, are there...
00:00:35.740 Can that affect your fertility long-term? 0.91
00:00:38.060 Because I remember when I was 16,
00:00:40.180 everyone else was going on birth control.
00:00:43.280 And I was just thinking, I'm like,
00:00:44.600 this just can't be good for me.
00:00:46.040 I'm like, you're gonna turn off my fertility?
00:00:48.880 Like, I remember having these thoughts,
00:00:50.860 and everyone thought I was crazy,
00:00:52.580 and I was just like, no, this cannot be a good thing.
00:00:57.640 So can it affect, and I could be wrong, I don't know,
00:01:01.100 could it affect fertility long-term, like having children?
00:01:05.260 So I honestly don't know.
00:01:06.900 Okay.
00:01:07.740 And so I'm reluctant to make something up.
00:01:10.180 But you're right that it's a question worth asking.
00:01:13.560 Yeah.
00:01:14.400 It makes sense that it would have some impact.
00:01:16.020 Yeah, I'm like, you're shutting this off?
00:01:18.400 You're shutting the reproductive system for, you know, 1.00
00:01:20.340 a decade or so.
00:01:21.260 Like, it's intuitive that it could have an impact,
00:01:23.460 but I honestly don't know what the evidence is.
00:01:25.000 Yeah.
00:01:26.000 But that's what I, I feel like,
00:01:27.140 they're just kind of running experiments on us.
00:01:30.580 Well, very much early on.
00:01:32.260 I mean, they, you know, when you look at the trials
00:01:34.160 in Puerto Rico and places like that,
00:01:36.140 they were, I mean, it was experiments.
00:01:38.560 Yeah.
00:01:39.140 Big scandal, absolutely.
00:01:40.580 Yeah, but even with like, abortion and stuff,
00:01:43.260 so it's like you're telling me that we're not even 100% sure
00:01:47.520 when the baby can feel pain and like it's debatable,
00:01:51.980 but we're still doing abortions and like convincing us that,
00:01:57.900 because we'll believe anything, you know what I mean?
00:02:00.000 Men question things. 0.99
00:02:01.000 Women, we just believe things. 1.00
00:02:02.400 So you tell us how the baby doesn't feel it.
00:02:04.680 It's a fetus, not a baby.
00:02:06.240 The men are kind of like, huh?
00:02:07.480 The women, we just, yeah, we're like, oh. 1.00
00:02:10.760 Well, I think even, I mean, so it would,
00:02:13.240 you know, it would make a big difference for a lot of women. 1.00
00:02:15.320 You know, we hear that one of the most common questions
00:02:17.400 asked when women go for an abortion is, will it feel anything?
00:02:21.300 So we know that women care about this 1.00
00:02:23.340 and they're usually lied to.
00:02:25.200 And so that's a huge concern.
00:02:27.000 But the issue partly with the abortion providers
00:02:29.660 is that even if it does feel pain, they often won't care.
00:02:32.940 So there was a bill in Ireland, which
00:02:35.400 was a couple of, a year or two ago,
00:02:38.300 where they said, we're going to try and make it the law
00:02:40.680 that if you do an abortion after, 1.00
00:02:42.200 I think it was after 24 weeks, might have been 20,
00:02:44.940 but it was no earlier than that.
00:02:46.020 It was like 20 or 24 weeks.
00:02:47.560 This is like, it's obvious that the baby feels pain at this stage.
00:02:51.520 Like if a baby is born at that stage and you poke it with a needle,
00:02:54.660 no one doubts that it feels pain.
00:02:57.260 We have ultrasounds of a baby at 23 weeks in the womb,
00:03:00.580 crying from injections because you sometimes have to do them in the womb.
00:03:03.960 No.
00:03:05.460 Like we can see the baby crying in the womb at 23 weeks.
00:03:09.460 And this bill in Ireland was like, OK, if you do an abortion after that point,
00:03:14.060 you have to use painkiller for the baby.
00:03:16.800 They're not even banning abortion after that stage.
00:03:18.800 You're saying you can kill the baby after six months if you want.
00:03:21.460 But if you're going to kill the baby after six months, you have to give it some painkiller. 0.98
00:03:25.960 It had no chance of passing.
00:03:28.960 Like it was not even close to passing in the Irish parliament,
00:03:32.960 because that is just how radical the abortion industry is and the abortion lobby and the politicians.
00:03:39.500 Now, whatever you think, you know, there'll be plenty of people listening to this that are pro-choice.
00:03:44.200 They might say early in pregnancy and maybe we should, since it's a prerecorder, 0.91
00:03:47.300 we could show the videos I mentioned last time about the baby at like six, seven weeks in the womb.
00:03:51.500 Yeah.
00:03:52.000 But even before you see those videos, you might be like, OK, in the first trimester, it's OK.
00:03:57.100 It's like a little bundle of cells.
00:03:58.500 Yeah.
00:03:59.000 But like one of the things that really got me thinking about abortion twice when I went to medical school
00:04:06.200 and I was pro-choice was just looking at how radical the other side is.
00:04:10.000 Yeah.
00:04:10.500 They're all for partial birth abortion. 0.96
00:04:12.800 They're for no painkillers for a baby who's being killed at eight months in the womb.
00:04:18.000 Is that kind of thing that made me think maybe it's like that meme is like, are we the baddies?
00:04:25.500 Like that's like maybe there's something off here.
00:04:28.300 Maybe maybe they should be trusted, even if you don't trust the pro-lifers yet.
00:04:31.900 Like, don't trust those guys.
00:04:33.800 Yeah.
00:04:34.100 Like think for yourself.
00:04:35.400 That is really critical.
00:04:36.800 What's the video?
00:04:37.800 We could show it.
00:04:38.800 I don't know how quickly you'll be able to find it now, but afterwards, it's on EHD,
00:04:42.800 the Endowment for Human Development.
00:04:44.400 So this is a website that really has all the facts about fetal development and it has a whole
00:04:50.200 video library.
00:04:51.000 So they have even done videos where you can put a camera into the womb at an early stage in
00:04:58.100 pregnancy and film like live kind of eye to eye.
00:05:02.800 The embryo are like six, seven weeks and many people, you know, we can show ultrasounds at 20
00:05:09.800 weeks and it's clearly a baby and you can show the baby crying and everyone's like, okay,
00:05:13.800 yeah, you can't kill the baby after that point.
00:05:15.800 But early on in pregnancy, it's just a kind of a bundle of cells.
00:05:19.800 When they see these videos of a baby that's six weeks or seven weeks and you can see the
00:05:26.200 baby's opening its mouth, you can see its tongue inside, it's moving its arms around.
00:05:30.000 I'll send you the video and you can show it.
00:05:32.900 It's so obvious that this is a living human being.
00:05:35.500 And that's at seven weeks, like smiling, moving its tongue around.
00:05:38.900 I don't know if it's smiling at that stage, but it's absolutely moving around.
00:05:41.500 Yeah.
00:05:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:43.100 Wow.
00:05:45.200 Well, I learned a lot today.
00:05:48.100 I think this is one of my most informative one-on-one.
00:05:50.700 I'm glad, I'm glad.
00:05:53.700 Is there anything else you think is important for people to know that are pro-choice?
00:05:59.700 There's so much.
00:06:00.700 So one thing, I guess, is, you know, look at other videos and things I've done where
00:06:05.700 I talk about this more, go on my website where I have a whole load more.
00:06:08.700 There's things about the effect on society.
00:06:10.800 We were talking about the impact it's had on single motherhood.
00:06:14.000 We haven't even spoken about the way that it has pushed women into poverty because they 0.95
00:06:19.100 are the ones who have to look after the baby. 0.79
00:06:21.500 If the man says it's your body, it's your choice, the man can also say it's your problem.
00:06:25.700 So the man walks away, it's the woman's thing to deal with. 1.00
00:06:30.200 And the evidence shows very clearly, it's published in the literature, this has pushed
00:06:34.200 so many more women, particularly African-American women, into poverty. 0.99
00:06:38.200 And they are the losers. 0.99
00:06:40.200 And so... 0.98
00:06:41.200 How does it push them into poverty if they don't have the kid?
00:06:45.200 Because most of them do have the kid.
00:06:47.200 So what they're told is, you don't have to have the kid, so you can abort the kid, go
00:06:52.200 on and have your career, earn a lot more money.
00:06:54.200 The reality is, the man gets the woman pregnant, he walks away and says, it's your problem,
00:06:59.200 I'm going to go and make loads more money.
00:07:01.200 The woman, it's not such an easy choice because they know it's a baby. 0.98
00:07:04.200 Most women know that this is a life growing inside of them. 1.00
00:07:07.200 So some of them will have an abortion, fine. 1.00
00:07:10.200 But the large majority will still have the baby.
00:07:13.200 And in that situation, she has to have the baby by herself.
00:07:16.200 She doesn't have the time that the man gives. 0.66
00:07:18.200 She doesn't have the money that the man gives. 0.83
00:07:20.200 She doesn't have the emotional support and resources that a partner gives. 0.95
00:07:24.200 She has to do everything herself.
00:07:26.200 And so she plunges into poverty while the man is just out earning money without any kid.
00:07:31.200 Well, they're legally, aren't they legally?
00:07:33.200 They can get child support from him.
00:07:35.200 They can.
00:07:36.200 I think it's probably nowhere near enough.
00:07:38.200 And when you think about the time that you need as well.
00:07:40.200 Yeah.
00:07:41.200 It's just, I'm pretty sure, yes, even with child support.
00:07:45.200 Yeah.
00:07:46.200 And taking into account.
00:07:47.200 I just, what I see more is like women either trying to get a guy to commit with a child, 0.97
00:07:52.200 and then they end up having it more so than like the guy just like walking away.
00:07:57.200 I mean, I don't know the proportions.
00:08:00.200 Yeah.
00:08:01.200 There's going to be stories where both happen.
00:08:03.200 And there's going to be stories where the man's at fault stories, where the woman's at fault stories,
00:08:07.200 where both of them, but either way.
00:08:09.200 Ban abortion.
00:08:10.200 Either way, all of them are harmed by abortion.
00:08:13.200 Yeah.
00:08:14.200 And that's the key thing is that.
00:08:16.200 Ban it.
00:08:17.200 Abortion.
00:08:18.200 Ban.
00:08:19.200 I mean, when you put it this way, like people will, people will freak out when you say words
00:08:23.200 like that, because they'll think like, you're about controlling people.
00:08:26.200 You're about prohibiting things.
00:08:28.200 Yes, I am.
00:08:29.200 I say we just own it.
00:08:32.200 Yes.
00:08:33.200 But, well, the thing is like, no one has that attitude towards the law generally.
00:08:38.200 Most of the people that say this are actually for big government, right?
00:08:41.200 So like, just think about it from the perspective of the law.
00:08:44.200 Like, no one thinks there should be no laws.
00:08:46.200 We all think that we all think there should be laws in place to protect vulnerable people,
00:08:51.200 to protect people from having their rights violated.
00:08:54.200 The same people will be like, how dare you go outside without a mask on during COVID?
00:08:58.200 How dare you not be vaccinated?
00:09:00.200 I've heard that men, I've heard feminists say that men should be banned from walking at night past like 11 p.m. 1.00
00:09:06.200 Right.
00:09:07.200 Right, right, right.
00:09:08.200 I've literally heard them like propose this.
00:09:10.200 I'm like, you don't think that's sexist?
00:09:13.200 So everyone agrees you have to have the law there, not because you want to punish people for the sake of it,
00:09:18.200 not because you want to control people for the sake of it, but because you have to have people's basic rights upheld and protected.
00:09:26.200 And that's literally just what pro-life is about.
00:09:30.200 It's not about controlling people for the sake of it or punishing people for the sake of it.
00:09:34.200 Most abortion bans in the U.S., I think every single abortion ban in the U.S. explicitly makes women immune from it.
00:09:42.200 I think every single place in the U.S., women like explicitly are exempted from punishment. 1.00
00:09:50.200 So that's clearly not what it's about.
00:09:52.200 It's about making sure—
00:09:53.200 I would change that, let me tell you.