JustPearlyThings - June 25, 2023


Emotional Trans Man Accuses Pearl Of This


Episode Stats

Length

9 minutes

Words per Minute

203.1205

Word Count

1,879

Sentence Count

172

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So if someone was assigned female at birth, they've transitioned to male,
00:00:03.500 and you're saying that they need to go with their biological sex
00:00:06.040 or their gender assigned at birth.
00:00:10.260 So they could have gone through every single process
00:00:13.160 to have bottom surgery, have top surgery.
00:00:16.400 They've been through hormone therapy.
00:00:17.600 They've been on hormones for like 10 years.
00:00:19.700 They look like a cisgender man,
00:00:24.200 but they've just followed you into a women's toilet
00:00:25.940 because you said that biological women should go into the women's toilet.
00:00:30.240 Aren't women's toilets already completely separate cubicles?
00:00:32.940 Am I missing something?
00:00:34.280 Like I've never seen a transgender person's pee-pee, like ever.
00:00:38.120 But the whole point is...
00:00:40.940 I do think changing rooms is a bit different,
00:00:42.960 but bathrooms is just like...
00:00:44.800 I don't think we should be forced to share a bathroom with men.
00:00:50.180 I'm just trying to figure out how you'd know.
00:00:52.220 Unless someone was obviously close to the beginning of their transition,
00:00:55.940 I mean, we already have a lot of unisonics.
00:00:57.680 Then I don't know how you would know.
00:01:00.300 I mean, it's pretty...
00:01:01.940 Unless they was to do a baseline surgery.
00:01:02.660 I mean, I'm not even trying to be rude.
00:01:04.400 It's pretty obvious.
00:01:06.060 Like you can usually tell.
00:01:07.700 Like even in this room, it was pretty easy for me to tell.
00:01:10.300 But does it really matter unless they do something really bad?
00:01:13.820 Does it matter like if you just see them coming in or out?
00:01:16.120 Like as long as they're not seeing anything bad?
00:01:17.640 But you're forcing me to pretend that there's something that they're not.
00:01:21.100 No, you don't have to.
00:01:22.060 You can still think they're what they are.
00:01:23.420 You just wait for them to leave.
00:01:23.860 Yeah, everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
00:01:25.680 Right, but we're supposed to have the...
00:01:27.680 It's supposed to be the women's locker room, the women's bathroom.
00:01:31.600 And so it's like when we have to be okay with them coming in.
00:01:35.040 Again, it's like you're asking me to accept that there's something that they're not.
00:01:39.320 No, I don't...
00:01:39.600 Do you know what?
00:01:40.400 No, it's not because your opinion at that point would have to be relevant to the person
00:01:44.620 using the bathroom.
00:01:46.000 So like, for example, if a transgender person came into the bathroom and had to put up with
00:01:50.600 your negative prejudice opinion...
00:01:53.480 My negativity, yes.
00:01:54.500 Then it's up to that person if they give you airtime.
00:01:57.600 If they think that you're just some negative Nancy, they'll just go to the toilet and leave.
00:02:01.400 I'm actually like a Karen, so I would go to the manager and I would say, hey, there's
00:02:06.120 a man in the bathroom.
00:02:07.700 And they'd probably ask you to leave.
00:02:09.140 So who?
00:02:10.340 Who would?
00:02:11.000 They'd probably ask you to leave.
00:02:11.980 Well, in this woke culture, yes, but I'm trying to stop that.
00:02:14.380 But do they really look completely like a man or are they a transgender woman and they're
00:02:18.480 trying the best?
00:02:19.280 See, I get really confused all the words, like the trans, cis, it just confuses me a bit.
00:02:24.640 But if we're going to go to the men that become women, I would say it's very easy to tell.
00:02:30.180 Like at that tournament, I could say that one, that one, that one.
00:02:32.780 I would say the other way around, it's a little harder, but it's still pretty easy to tell.
00:02:38.120 So like, say of all of the trans women that you've met, would all of them bother you or
00:02:41.800 some bother you more than others?
00:02:44.360 Just your feelings.
00:02:45.760 All of them bother you about the same amount.
00:02:47.020 All of them I would not want in the bathroom with me.
00:02:51.260 Yeah.
00:02:51.660 I feel like we should base being sort of wary of people on when they actually do something
00:02:58.880 bad.
00:02:59.840 No, but again, the policies, again, because the issue is if we allow them in the bathrooms,
00:03:05.760 then what's next?
00:03:06.940 Then it's the prisons.
00:03:07.980 Then it's the sports.
00:03:09.180 Like it just never stops.
00:03:10.980 There's always something they're going to be fighting for.
00:03:13.380 They have already regulated, at least in the UK, they've regulated the prisons pretty well.
00:03:17.360 I do think there is still work to be done with sports, but these are all very interesting.
00:03:21.660 Individual issues that have different problems.
00:03:23.500 I'm about to get kicked out of the league for it, to be honest, because I said something
00:03:27.700 about it.
00:03:28.300 Are we honest?
00:03:29.240 I think the biggest issue is you're just calling trans women men.
00:03:32.880 I feel like if you'd have used their PC language, they probably couldn't have had as much of an
00:03:37.220 issue with it.
00:03:37.480 But why do I have to change my language?
00:03:44.060 Because it's just respectful.
00:03:45.060 That's what it is.
00:03:45.900 It's just respectful.
00:03:46.480 Again, again.
00:03:47.060 It's like calling a black person an animal.
00:03:48.240 Again, I wouldn't say that it's the same when it's what you're born as.
00:03:53.780 It's your biology.
00:03:54.880 So it's like...
00:03:56.060 It's for me, it's just confusing.
00:03:58.420 Because if someone doesn't say...
00:03:59.780 No, black people are not born niggers, though.
00:04:00.440 No, but if you know the words in other languages, negro means black.
00:04:05.060 Yeah.
00:04:05.500 Negro is different from nigger.
00:04:06.660 It doesn't matter.
00:04:07.980 It does matter.
00:04:09.440 It does matter.
00:04:10.540 I'm not going to find this.
00:04:11.620 Can I finish?
00:04:13.060 You just cut me.
00:04:15.040 It's a terminology that people use.
00:04:17.980 And black people do not like when it's used by people that are not black.
00:04:22.760 Okay?
00:04:23.120 This class is disrespectful.
00:04:24.980 So my example, it doesn't need to be taken for word for word.
00:04:30.200 If you've got a broad enough mind, you'll be able to look at the example and see that
00:04:34.560 you're calling someone a word and a phrase that they find disrespectful.
00:04:38.960 It could be someone that's obese, you're calling them fat.
00:04:41.120 If you're a respectful person, you wouldn't call someone a terminology that offends them.
00:04:45.840 If you're a disrespectful person, you won't mind because you would like to offend people
00:04:48.960 and make people feel uncomfortable.
00:04:49.820 I don't think fat is that bad.
00:04:51.340 I don't agree with that because...
00:04:52.480 I think saying if someone's fat and they deserve to die or something is that bad.
00:04:55.460 Exactly.
00:04:55.740 I don't think saying like fat is that bad.
00:04:57.040 Exactly.
00:04:57.460 My argument was...
00:04:58.260 You don't need to call anyone fat.
00:04:58.760 No, my argument was...
00:04:59.600 You don't need to call anyone fat.
00:05:00.400 My argument was black people are not born negroes.
00:05:03.580 But trans women are born men.
00:05:07.360 What are black people born?
00:05:08.660 They are born as black people.
00:05:10.060 And what does negro mean in other languages?
00:05:11.920 No, no.
00:05:13.920 Negro, negro, if you go and check the...
00:05:16.720 Do you mean like Spanish words?
00:05:18.160 Yeah.
00:05:18.400 I'm not going to say it because it sounds too similar.
00:05:20.840 I know the history, but the example, you're clinging on to one part.
00:05:24.400 No, it was used as a slur.
00:05:26.020 That's different.
00:05:27.300 You being born as a man is not a slur.
00:05:29.160 This is reality.
00:05:30.020 Sis is a word used to explain a biological person.
00:05:34.360 It's a slur.
00:05:34.940 It's all words.
00:05:35.800 It's all words that can cause offence.
00:05:37.580 If you want to use it, fine.
00:05:38.760 But now you guys are demanding that we change our language to accommodate you.
00:05:43.140 Okay, for me, it's just confusing.
00:05:44.620 So I need to know if we're talking about men or trans women.
00:05:47.220 So if you keep calling trans women men, I don't know what we're talking about at a certain point.
00:05:52.420 We kind of have to use these labels.
00:05:54.220 Otherwise, the conversation...
00:05:55.040 But that's the byproduct of this whole thing.
00:05:58.340 It's not the original way human beings have been thinking for the past couple of years that's causing these problems.
00:06:03.780 But trans people have been around for a while.
00:06:05.560 It's the new way of thinking.
00:06:07.280 No, but yeah, trans people have been around, but there has been a way of thinking for the past couple of thousands of years.
00:06:12.300 Yeah, it wasn't spoke about.
00:06:13.720 Like, with the gay community, not a lot of people came out that they were gay for a very long time.
00:06:19.300 They hid it.
00:06:20.180 And it's the same with the trans community.
00:06:22.540 Why do you think that is?
00:06:24.360 Until they feel comfortable enough to discuss their sexuality, their gender, they are not going to come out and say, oh, I'm this.
00:06:32.240 I mean, gay people suffered in the same way that trans people did, right?
00:06:35.340 Everyone assumed all the gay men in the bathrooms were trying to fuck the kids, and there was a lot of pedophile.
00:06:40.020 Like, we kind of evolved our thinking from this.
00:06:44.400 And I have a lot of empathy towards people that are wary about their kids being trans.
00:06:50.160 It's a lot.
00:06:50.940 And there's a lot of discussion about whether X, Y, or Z is safe, et cetera.
00:06:57.580 But the reality is we did move on from that.
00:07:00.020 I want to say that was, like, the 90s where we were having these types of things.
00:07:03.460 George Michael and I.
00:07:04.660 Yeah, sort of thing.
00:07:06.100 Yeah.
00:07:08.680 But then I'm also not really convinced there is, like, a transgender ideology.
00:07:14.480 I know this kind of upsets a lot of people.
00:07:17.220 I do think that how things are is a mess.
00:07:20.400 I do think in certain situations it's not quite there yet.
00:07:23.820 I think in a lot of sports it's a mess.
00:07:26.120 I completely understand the anxiety, especially around changing rooms, because being naked is a vulnerability.
00:07:33.040 And I don't want to, like, I'm a cis woman.
00:07:34.640 I don't like being naked around anyone.
00:07:36.620 It doesn't feel good.
00:07:37.520 And if one of the people was, like, a pre-op transgender person, it would feel uncomfortable.
00:07:43.340 But I feel uncomfortable all the time.
00:07:45.600 So I don't know how much to base my feeling on what should be policy.
00:07:49.120 I do think that these things could be fixed easily.
00:07:53.340 Just fucking everyone should have their own cubicles.
00:07:56.280 But I also realize that in a lot of situations there isn't that yet.
00:08:02.240 Right?
00:08:02.520 If you're playing sports in a place that doesn't have those, like, facilities, that sucks for you.
00:08:07.780 And I don't want to, like, disregard that.
00:08:10.840 Again, like, cis women are a protected class.
00:08:13.720 Transgender women are a protected class.
00:08:15.420 And I think people are trying to kind of swoosh.
00:08:16.320 What do you mean protected class?
00:08:18.860 So we have protected, you know, when it comes to, like, the law and things, when it comes to sexism and things that can negatively affect us.
00:08:28.900 There are certain things that make us protected.
00:08:31.700 But what there is for transgender women is a little bit different.
00:08:36.320 Well, transgender people in general.
00:08:38.400 But anyone that is a protected class is, like, black people, for example.
00:08:42.880 Or, yeah, it's just different things that are put in place to consider that we're, you know, different.
00:08:52.920 A minority.
00:08:53.620 That's the one I was looking for earlier.
00:08:55.000 Yeah, but women are a minority.
00:08:56.120 But I don't still don't understand what you were saying earlier.
00:08:58.380 They're, like, why I should be punished for my speech when what I'm saying is true.
00:09:02.780 No, you shouldn't be punished.
00:09:03.760 So, like, with the.
00:09:05.640 No, I was talking to you.
00:09:07.320 Because you said you wouldn't have, like, been in that situation if you just used their pronouns.
00:09:11.400 So it's, like, why do I have to change my language when what I am saying.