Emotional Trans Man Accuses Pearl Of This
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the controversial issue of transgender people being allowed in the women's locker room and the bathroom. We discuss the pros and cons of allowing trans people in the bathroom and what we would do if we allowed them in the men's bathroom.
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So if someone was assigned female at birth, they've transitioned to male,
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and you're saying that they need to go with their biological sex
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So they could have gone through every single process
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but they've just followed you into a women's toilet
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because you said that biological women should go into the women's toilet.
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Aren't women's toilets already completely separate cubicles?
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Like I've never seen a transgender person's pee-pee, like ever.
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I don't think we should be forced to share a bathroom with men.
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Unless someone was obviously close to the beginning of their transition,
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Like even in this room, it was pretty easy for me to tell.
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But does it really matter unless they do something really bad?
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Does it matter like if you just see them coming in or out?
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Like as long as they're not seeing anything bad?
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But you're forcing me to pretend that there's something that they're not.
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Yeah, everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
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It's supposed to be the women's locker room, the women's bathroom.
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And so it's like when we have to be okay with them coming in.
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Again, it's like you're asking me to accept that there's something that they're not.
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No, it's not because your opinion at that point would have to be relevant to the person
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So like, for example, if a transgender person came into the bathroom and had to put up with
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Then it's up to that person if they give you airtime.
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If they think that you're just some negative Nancy, they'll just go to the toilet and leave.
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I'm actually like a Karen, so I would go to the manager and I would say, hey, there's
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Well, in this woke culture, yes, but I'm trying to stop that.
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But do they really look completely like a man or are they a transgender woman and they're
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See, I get really confused all the words, like the trans, cis, it just confuses me a bit.
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But if we're going to go to the men that become women, I would say it's very easy to tell.
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Like at that tournament, I could say that one, that one, that one.
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I would say the other way around, it's a little harder, but it's still pretty easy to tell.
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So like, say of all of the trans women that you've met, would all of them bother you or
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All of them I would not want in the bathroom with me.
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I feel like we should base being sort of wary of people on when they actually do something
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No, but again, the policies, again, because the issue is if we allow them in the bathrooms,
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There's always something they're going to be fighting for.
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They have already regulated, at least in the UK, they've regulated the prisons pretty well.
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I do think there is still work to be done with sports, but these are all very interesting.
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Individual issues that have different problems.
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I'm about to get kicked out of the league for it, to be honest, because I said something
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I think the biggest issue is you're just calling trans women men.
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I feel like if you'd have used their PC language, they probably couldn't have had as much of an
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Again, I wouldn't say that it's the same when it's what you're born as.
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No, but if you know the words in other languages, negro means black.
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And black people do not like when it's used by people that are not black.
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So my example, it doesn't need to be taken for word for word.
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If you've got a broad enough mind, you'll be able to look at the example and see that
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you're calling someone a word and a phrase that they find disrespectful.
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It could be someone that's obese, you're calling them fat.
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If you're a respectful person, you wouldn't call someone a terminology that offends them.
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If you're a disrespectful person, you won't mind because you would like to offend people
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I think saying if someone's fat and they deserve to die or something is that bad.
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My argument was black people are not born negroes.
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I'm not going to say it because it sounds too similar.
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I know the history, but the example, you're clinging on to one part.
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Sis is a word used to explain a biological person.
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But now you guys are demanding that we change our language to accommodate you.
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So I need to know if we're talking about men or trans women.
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So if you keep calling trans women men, I don't know what we're talking about at a certain point.
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It's not the original way human beings have been thinking for the past couple of years that's causing these problems.
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No, but yeah, trans people have been around, but there has been a way of thinking for the past couple of thousands of years.
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Like, with the gay community, not a lot of people came out that they were gay for a very long time.
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Until they feel comfortable enough to discuss their sexuality, their gender, they are not going to come out and say, oh, I'm this.
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I mean, gay people suffered in the same way that trans people did, right?
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Everyone assumed all the gay men in the bathrooms were trying to fuck the kids, and there was a lot of pedophile.
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Like, we kind of evolved our thinking from this.
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And I have a lot of empathy towards people that are wary about their kids being trans.
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And there's a lot of discussion about whether X, Y, or Z is safe, et cetera.
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I want to say that was, like, the 90s where we were having these types of things.
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But then I'm also not really convinced there is, like, a transgender ideology.
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I do think in certain situations it's not quite there yet.
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I completely understand the anxiety, especially around changing rooms, because being naked is a vulnerability.
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And if one of the people was, like, a pre-op transgender person, it would feel uncomfortable.
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So I don't know how much to base my feeling on what should be policy.
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I do think that these things could be fixed easily.
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Just fucking everyone should have their own cubicles.
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But I also realize that in a lot of situations there isn't that yet.
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If you're playing sports in a place that doesn't have those, like, facilities, that sucks for you.
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And I think people are trying to kind of swoosh.
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So we have protected, you know, when it comes to, like, the law and things, when it comes to sexism and things that can negatively affect us.
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There are certain things that make us protected.
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But what there is for transgender women is a little bit different.
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But anyone that is a protected class is, like, black people, for example.
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Or, yeah, it's just different things that are put in place to consider that we're, you know, different.
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But I don't still don't understand what you were saying earlier.
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They're, like, why I should be punished for my speech when what I'm saying is true.
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Because you said you wouldn't have, like, been in that situation if you just used their pronouns.
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So it's, like, why do I have to change my language when what I am saying.