JustPearlyThings - June 26, 2023


Fat Instagram Model Gets Cornered By This Question


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10 minutes

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2,113

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In this episode, we discuss the role of enabling and accommodating fat people and why it is so important to have a healthy relationship with food and exercise. We also discuss why fat people should not starve themselves of certain things and why you should not be obsessed with losing weight.

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00:00:00.000 I had a cousin that died from, like, drug addiction.
00:00:03.360 I'm sorry to hear that.
00:00:03.880 I mean, it's okay.
00:00:05.040 It was a while ago.
00:00:06.040 But I just don't think that enabling...
00:00:07.820 Like, I wouldn't look at someone that gave him drugs in a healthy way
00:00:11.100 and say, oh, thank you for that.
00:00:13.440 I think it would actually be a negative thing.
00:00:16.460 I think there's a difference between enabling and accommodating.
00:00:19.640 And one is realistic.
00:00:21.840 Yeah.
00:00:22.560 Is it a means to an end?
00:00:23.980 Accommodating and, like, safe usage.
00:00:26.420 That's a means to an end, right?
00:00:27.560 The end is that you'd hope that the person stops using drugs,
00:00:30.180 accommodating fatness.
00:00:31.620 The end is that you hope that the person...
00:00:33.200 Yeah, so in the same vein,
00:00:35.040 how is a person going to stop using drugs if they're being given it safely?
00:00:38.340 And how is a fat person going to stop getting fat
00:00:41.400 or maintain his weight if he doesn't stop or he or she doesn't stop eating?
00:00:44.900 Something interesting that I came across recently was,
00:00:48.440 as a plus-size model, I was thinking, like,
00:00:50.140 I want to make my own brand.
00:00:51.660 I want to invest a lot of money into something
00:00:53.740 and start producing something.
00:00:54.920 And I thought about making plus-size lingerie.
00:00:56.340 I thought about making plus-size clothes.
00:00:58.040 I spoke to some financial advisors.
00:00:59.880 I spoke to a few people.
00:01:00.740 And everybody told me, do not do it
00:01:02.700 because there's no money in staying fat.
00:01:05.600 Like, that is what I was taught by professionals.
00:01:07.620 They were like, the money is in losing weight, not being fat.
00:01:10.480 But why?
00:01:11.060 Because he asked you a question, like,
00:01:12.420 what's the best way to help fat people?
00:01:14.240 Isn't it diet and exercise?
00:01:15.820 Isn't that it?
00:01:16.180 I didn't answer that.
00:01:17.440 Go ahead.
00:01:17.820 The best way to lose weight is to first start telling yourself
00:01:23.960 that it's one step at a time, one step at a time.
00:01:28.540 Have a plan.
00:01:29.980 Give yourself a time.
00:01:30.900 Okay, imagine I do 10 sit-ups today.
00:01:33.440 Tomorrow I'm going to go for 15.
00:01:35.100 If it's still hard, I'm going to do 15 on the third day.
00:01:38.080 Then I'm going to push myself to do 20.
00:01:40.940 And along with that, even trying new foods
00:01:43.180 and just eating fresh things.
00:01:44.880 It's diet and exercise.
00:01:45.840 It's diet and exercise.
00:01:46.980 But a lot of people that don't lose weight,
00:01:49.520 it's because of mobility issues.
00:01:51.420 So it's, again, if I can't do this with my knee,
00:01:54.200 what can I do?
00:01:55.060 How can I move my upper, upper, upper?
00:01:56.740 Not everyone has a mobility issue.
00:01:59.140 Like, for the last three years,
00:02:01.600 like, governments have put out ad campaigns.
00:02:04.240 You should take this.
00:02:05.500 It's safe.
00:02:06.700 Or, you know, smoking ads are put up on television.
00:02:10.340 Would you guys be opposed to a government ad saying,
00:02:13.240 if you continue eating this way, you're going to die?
00:02:15.840 That's why they had the obesity causes cancer ad.
00:02:17.840 I just want to say, firstly,
00:02:20.100 losing weight is 20% fitness and it's 80% nutrition.
00:02:24.960 So when you're talking about mobility,
00:02:27.060 it has nothing to do with sit-ups,
00:02:28.620 it has nothing to do with running or in the gym.
00:02:31.160 It's 80% diet anyway.
00:02:33.040 So if you want to lose weight,
00:02:35.440 then know where the 80% is, know where the 20% is,
00:02:38.180 and you personalise your programme to that.
00:02:40.860 Also, when people, if you want to do something,
00:02:42.900 I need to come in because there are a couple of things
00:02:45.000 that I want to push back on from something that Pia said.
00:02:48.400 It goes back to every,
00:02:49.620 like, a lot of these things tie back to each other.
00:02:51.680 You said both things can exist at the same time.
00:02:55.020 That, in my opinion, is a very wrong ideology
00:02:56.960 because if you say you can want to lose weight
00:03:01.440 and at the same time enjoy your body the way it is
00:03:04.580 in its current state,
00:03:06.660 I think that is you actually stopping yourself
00:03:09.440 from actually losing weight
00:03:10.280 because both things can't actually exist at the same time.
00:03:13.040 It goes back to the same thing we talk about on this podcast
00:03:15.240 where women want everything. 1.00
00:03:16.940 You can't have everything in life.
00:03:18.540 So if you really want to lose weight,
00:03:20.220 you need to, how will I put it?
00:03:23.940 You need to basically starve yourself of certain things.
00:03:27.040 So you can't be enjoying those things
00:03:29.160 and trying to lose weight because you wouldn't lose weight.
00:03:32.440 So, for instance, like you said, a bikini should be earned.
00:03:35.200 When you stop yourself from wearing a bikini
00:03:37.680 till you earn it, you would actually get that goal.
00:03:40.340 You're saying disappointment.
00:03:41.060 Yeah, but if you're able to wear the bikini on a Sunday
00:03:45.440 and say you're going to go to the gym on a Monday,
00:03:48.480 you're not going to work as hard in the gym.
00:03:50.120 I think that you're confusing aesthetics and health there
00:03:54.180 because for me, those things aren't particularly linked.
00:03:56.660 I want to lose weight because I want to be healthy,
00:03:58.220 but I don't dislike the way that I look.
00:03:59.600 I'm not confusing it.
00:04:00.480 I'm not confusing it.
00:04:00.960 You know why?
00:04:01.620 Because a lot of times we try to be deeper
00:04:05.200 than we actually should be.
00:04:06.200 A lot of these things are actually very soft.
00:04:07.380 Trying to make it more complex.
00:04:08.860 Facts, facts, facts, facts.
00:04:10.080 Before you can talk about all these things about the mind,
00:04:13.020 your eyes are the first thing that you used to see.
00:04:15.540 So your brain is going to work on what it sees.
00:04:18.360 So no matter what you try to tell yourself in your head,
00:04:21.800 your eyes still see what you look like.
00:04:24.280 And that's the reason why I wanted to ask the question
00:04:25.900 to the personal trainers because it's very funny.
00:04:28.280 Pearl asked what is the best way to lose weight.
00:04:31.240 And with all due respect,
00:04:32.480 I don't think you are in the right position
00:04:34.960 to answer that question, Puff.
00:04:37.080 No, but he did say partially was correct.
00:04:40.540 No, I know.
00:04:41.340 But the reason why I'm saying that is because this is the thing.
00:04:45.120 It's like...
00:04:48.360 That question should have been answered
00:04:49.940 by the personal trainers, in my opinion.
00:04:51.520 Because one, they have worked with people
00:04:53.320 that have helped people lose weight,
00:04:54.400 so they know.
00:04:55.720 Even if you haven't done it,
00:04:58.460 you saying it is kind of like, okay,
00:05:01.020 it kind of counteracts your argument.
00:05:03.640 There are personal trainers
00:05:05.040 who actually don't understand injuries.
00:05:09.140 They don't literally, they don't understand it.
00:05:11.020 Because they keep on working with fit people
00:05:13.580 and that's why they just...
00:05:15.280 No, but that's another fun level.
00:05:16.280 No, there's a lot of...
00:05:18.260 Locally, like people who...
00:05:20.480 Because there's something you said
00:05:21.440 that makes me know
00:05:22.520 that you don't really understand this.
00:05:24.420 Because you said something like,
00:05:25.780 when you go to the gym,
00:05:27.400 it's scary.
00:05:28.020 You see these people working out.
00:05:29.020 The reality is,
00:05:29.600 because I worked in the gym,
00:05:30.300 the reality is,
00:05:31.280 the fittest people are actually
00:05:32.780 the most empathetic people.
00:05:33.900 Okay, okay.
00:05:34.680 Because they've had to do the hard work.
00:05:36.300 They know what to take.
00:05:37.060 Just last week...
00:05:37.740 I think what you do,
00:05:42.060 what you've done essentially
00:05:43.220 is you've put a mental block on yourself.
00:05:45.540 So you see things
00:05:46.480 that are actually not there.
00:05:47.500 You go into the gym,
00:05:48.300 you see people looking at you
00:05:49.240 and you think,
00:05:49.880 oh my God, they're judging me.
00:05:50.840 The reality is,
00:05:51.480 most people don't even care
00:05:52.960 about other people in the gym.
00:05:53.700 Okay, so I joined the gym
00:05:55.500 a week and a half ago in Essex.
00:05:58.900 Now, it's my induction
00:06:00.560 and some things obviously
00:06:02.720 I know how to use
00:06:03.800 because I use it.
00:06:04.900 But because I want to improve myself,
00:06:06.780 I was like,
00:06:08.100 so are you going to show me around?
00:06:10.180 He's like,
00:06:10.660 yeah, that's that.
00:06:11.740 That's that.
00:06:12.280 And I'm like,
00:06:13.140 so are you going to show me
00:06:13.880 how to use it
00:06:14.400 because I at least want to use it?
00:06:16.360 And then he goes,
00:06:17.380 well, you're not going to use it,
00:06:18.540 are you?
00:06:18.840 I'm like,
00:06:19.740 why am I joining then?
00:06:20.820 I'm like,
00:06:21.440 you shouldn't be working
00:06:22.900 in the gym.
00:06:23.360 I literally told him.
00:06:24.280 Yeah, you changed him.
00:06:25.480 That's a bad experience.
00:06:26.760 Yeah, that's just a bad experience.
00:06:27.820 No, but it happens a lot
00:06:29.500 and it's not large
00:06:30.400 because that's what I mean
00:06:31.620 by encouragement.
00:06:33.280 When people aren't used
00:06:34.740 to working with big people.
00:06:35.760 Hey, 11 a.m. tomorrow,
00:06:37.700 you come.
00:06:38.920 11 a.m. tomorrow.
00:06:40.820 I'm just going to say this.
00:06:42.000 I was just going to say this.
00:06:43.660 You offered this same thing
00:06:45.040 the last time he was here
00:06:45.820 and between then and now,
00:06:47.700 we haven't seen you here.
00:06:48.880 Can I say why?
00:06:50.180 Can I tell you why?
00:06:51.860 Why?
00:06:52.520 My dad's got cancer
00:06:53.640 and he's been in hospital
00:06:55.540 and this week
00:06:56.940 I actually gave him
00:06:57.780 a sponge bath
00:06:59.140 and when you're going
00:07:02.980 to lose a father
00:07:03.840 and when you're seeing
00:07:05.660 them deteriorate,
00:07:07.500 you ain't like,
00:07:09.600 it's like I've just been
00:07:11.300 going,
00:07:12.160 it's like I don't have
00:07:12.940 any emotions.
00:07:14.600 So,
00:07:15.080 sorry to hear about that.
00:07:15.720 I've just been keeping busy
00:07:17.240 and a part of keeping busy
00:07:19.060 is I know I need
00:07:20.160 to drink water
00:07:20.860 and actually care
00:07:22.440 for myself
00:07:22.940 which is keeping active
00:07:24.700 and getting good sleep
00:07:27.240 and literally eating healthy
00:07:28.780 and that's the way
00:07:29.580 I'm living now
00:07:30.300 and when I go to work,
00:07:31.960 stuff that you see
00:07:32.680 on Instagram,
00:07:33.520 TikTok,
00:07:34.080 events and stuff like that,
00:07:35.040 I only go there,
00:07:36.520 get the picture done,
00:07:37.780 take a few,
00:07:38.460 say hello to a few people
00:07:39.460 and leave
00:07:39.860 and then I wake up,
00:07:41.060 I've been in hospital
00:07:41.740 then I've got errands
00:07:42.820 to do like,
00:07:44.880 I live a life
00:07:45.720 at Hannah Montana.
00:07:46.780 I cook and clean at home,
00:07:48.520 I do the caring,
00:07:50.400 when my nephews are here,
00:07:52.220 I'm an uncle,
00:07:53.280 I actually read books
00:07:54.340 to them,
00:07:55.060 I teach them how to cook
00:07:56.160 because I want them
00:07:57.000 to have real skills.
00:07:58.220 When they go out
00:07:59.160 and I take them out
00:08:00.340 to like we learn
00:08:01.500 about things,
00:08:02.340 nature,
00:08:02.940 all these things.
00:08:03.600 So you don't have
00:08:04.120 any personal time
00:08:04.820 for yourself.
00:08:06.340 I don't actually know
00:08:07.840 and that's the thing
00:08:09.500 when someone's losing
00:08:11.400 their life
00:08:12.120 or they will
00:08:14.240 and hopefully they don't,
00:08:15.940 you just have to be positive
00:08:17.060 and there needs to be that care
00:08:18.100 and I'm someone
00:08:18.560 who cares about my dad.
00:08:19.780 And I have a lot
00:08:20.940 of like empathy for that
00:08:22.300 but it's like
00:08:23.460 you're sitting
00:08:24.480 on a couch
00:08:25.700 for three hours here
00:08:27.000 so it kind of just shows
00:08:28.540 where your priorities are.
00:08:30.260 Can I say something?
00:08:31.260 Because you've been here
00:08:32.700 like twice
00:08:33.280 and you know,
00:08:34.040 keep coming,
00:08:34.580 and you're very good content.
00:08:35.560 You also say do
00:08:36.260 on social media as well.
00:08:37.500 Nothing like personal
00:08:38.780 but it kind of shows
00:08:40.100 like where your priorities are
00:08:41.480 because you have time
00:08:42.140 for this.
00:08:42.640 But Pearl, 0.50
00:08:43.200 without sounding rude,
00:08:45.100 as much as I love
00:08:46.340 this podcast,
00:08:47.700 when Romeo asked me,
00:08:49.040 I was like Romeo,
00:08:50.360 na na na,
00:08:51.480 ooh na na na,
00:08:52.720 because I actually
00:08:53.740 really wanted to watch
00:08:55.100 and dub tonight
00:08:56.120 because why?
00:08:56.800 because it helps me
00:08:57.520 keep active.
00:08:58.360 I'm going to dance.
00:08:59.500 I'm going to be like
00:09:00.540 grooving,
00:09:01.680 I swear,
00:09:02.580 I have a good time.
00:09:04.540 Podcast ain't really me
00:09:05.640 but coming on your podcast
00:09:06.780 because I enjoy you.
00:09:08.120 Yeah.
00:09:08.660 That's why I'm here.
00:09:09.500 Or I'm actually,
00:09:11.480 I'm not a person
00:09:12.160 who sits like this.
00:09:12.960 But my point is,
00:09:14.080 my point isn't
00:09:14.760 about the podcasting.
00:09:16.060 It's just,
00:09:16.700 I think we all make choices
00:09:18.260 in life
00:09:18.780 about where we spend
00:09:19.740 our time, right?
00:09:21.480 Sorry,
00:09:22.020 I just need to,
00:09:23.140 I want to share
00:09:23.700 a personal experience
00:09:24.600 so this might help you.
00:09:27.060 When I started working here,
00:09:28.440 I went through
00:09:28.920 certain personal things
00:09:29.880 in my life
00:09:30.280 which I'm not going
00:09:30.740 to disclose
00:09:31.900 but I think Pearl
00:09:32.540 knows a few of them.
00:09:33.780 But the point
00:09:34.720 I'm trying to make is
00:09:35.380 for the longest time,
00:09:36.480 even after I started
00:09:37.640 getting my life
00:09:38.200 back on track,
00:09:39.420 I wasn't working out.
00:09:41.180 I'm so on,
00:09:41.720 you might look at me,
00:09:42.380 you might think
00:09:42.680 I'm fit
00:09:43.120 but I'm only just
00:09:44.440 starting to get
00:09:44.940 my fitness back
00:09:45.600 but the reality is
00:09:46.780 the reason why
00:09:47.880 I wasn't working out
00:09:48.400 was because of
00:09:48.940 all this life stress
00:09:49.800 and all of that
00:09:50.420 and even when I
00:09:51.480 kind of started
00:09:52.760 getting my life on track,
00:09:53.600 I still wasn't working out
00:09:54.620 but the reality is
00:09:55.460 because that was happening
00:09:56.480 because I wasn't
00:09:57.120 prioritizing it.
00:09:58.640 Once I started,
00:09:59.460 I got punched in the ribs
00:10:00.640 when we were sparring
00:10:01.480 the other day
00:10:01.880 and I kind of woke up
00:10:02.820 and I was like,
00:10:03.480 you know what,
00:10:03.740 I'm going to make time
00:10:04.340 for the gym
00:10:04.760 and I have been able
00:10:06.440 to create the time.
00:10:07.480 So the reality is
00:10:08.020 no matter what you're
00:10:08.680 going through in life,
00:10:09.800 you can always create time
00:10:11.000 for the gym.