JustPearlyThings - August 03, 2023


Fat People Will Cancel Pearl For Saying This

Topics
fat shaming adults bullying mental health
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Hannah Pearl Davis
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Judger Anorexia
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9 minutes

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1,899

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273

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10

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13

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In this episode, we talk about obesity, mental health and fat shaming. We talk about how obesity is linked to mental health, why it's a problem and why we need to stop shaming people who are born obese. We also talk about why fat shaming is so common and why it needs to stop.

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00:00:00.000 And also, if we're comparing it to anorexia, which is an eating disorder, which is linked to mental health, is being obese not the same thing?
00:00:08.700 It's an eating disorder, which is mental health, which is something that is a serious matter.
00:00:13.860 It's actually a habit.
00:00:15.300 That's something that nobody can help apart from that person.
00:00:20.160 Like, if that person has a mental health issue and on that day they decide to get on camera and big up themselves, then go on you.
00:00:28.340 Because if you're going through all of that to get to where you are now.
00:00:33.560 Why don't you ask him?
00:00:35.140 Because he's the personal trainer.
00:00:37.840 Are you a mental health coach as well?
00:00:40.060 Are you an expert?
00:00:42.020 Right, okay.
00:00:42.620 So you're on the topic of mental health?
00:00:44.440 Yeah, because we compared it to anorexia.
00:00:47.140 Anorexia is an eating disorder, which is linked to mental health.
00:00:49.840 So if obesity is also an eating disorder, which would then be linked to mental health, which means it's a mental health condition.
00:00:59.560 Because part of personal training is we have to go through life coaching courses as well.
00:01:04.660 All of that, we all have mental problems. 0.87
00:01:07.760 Sitting here, we all have mental problems. 0.99
00:01:10.660 A habit.
00:01:12.140 She has developed a habit, which is part of mental problems.
00:01:16.680 What you do on a daily basis is a habit.
00:01:19.000 Do you think it's hereditary as well?
00:01:21.060 Do you think it's something that's passed down as well?
00:01:23.280 Could be.
00:01:23.740 Because that's another thing as well.
00:01:24.960 Could be, because, yeah.
00:01:26.080 I think it goes back to the moms.
00:01:28.180 Yeah.
00:01:28.500 Not teaching the kids how to eat.
00:01:31.160 Yeah, yeah.
00:01:31.740 No, but some kids are born obese.
00:01:34.020 So how do you explain that?
00:01:35.740 No, they're not born obese.
00:01:36.800 No, but you know what I'm saying?
00:01:38.220 There's some kids that are like...
00:01:39.640 Okay, can we just...
00:01:40.300 Okay, I need to...
00:01:41.300 Wait, wait, wait.
00:01:41.740 Okay, so let's just be honest.
00:01:44.340 The mom feeds the kid.
00:01:45.800 So if the kid...
00:01:46.480 I would go as far to say that if your kid's obese, that honestly, that's child abuse.
00:01:51.500 Because you're putting that kid...
00:01:52.880 That's a hard life, to be obese, overweight as a child.
00:01:56.560 Sorry, I wanted to turn it back to you.
00:01:57.760 It's like a smoker, right?
00:01:58.780 Every day.
00:01:59.580 You'd say, oh, because you can't stop smoking. 0.99
00:02:02.020 You have mental health.
00:02:03.480 No, because no, eating disorders are nothing like...
00:02:06.000 You can't compare an eating disorder to...
00:02:08.060 No, but eating disorder is nothing like smoking.
00:02:11.040 I guess anorexic people think that they...
00:02:13.740 Well, normally, I think, or usually, they don't see their weight.
00:02:17.000 So they actually don't realise how skinny they are.
00:02:18.900 Whereas I don't know if that...
00:02:19.880 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:02:20.880 I've heard that before.
00:02:21.660 So you don't think she didn't see her weight?
00:02:24.160 Possibly.
00:02:24.700 No, but that's what I mean.
00:02:25.780 Yeah, possibly.
00:02:27.960 Possibly.
00:02:29.000 But why are we fat shaming, though?
00:02:31.020 My question is, why are we fat shaming?
00:02:33.220 It's like discrimination, isn't it?
00:02:34.920 I don't think we are shaming at all.
00:02:38.400 No, but I feel like that is, though.
00:02:40.920 I think...
00:02:41.680 No?
00:02:42.100 Am I the only one that feels that way?
00:02:43.580 Yeah, a thousand percent.
00:02:44.580 I don't think fat shaming adults do that. 0.99
00:02:45.920 I support every single thing that you guys are seeing
00:02:47.380 with her loving herself, her feeling confident and everything.
00:02:50.280 Look, I'm just praising how she feels about herself.
00:02:52.460 And I support that.
00:02:53.900 That's it.
00:02:54.300 Beauty isn't the eye of the beholder.
00:02:55.760 Some people would find her desirable. 0.59
00:02:58.300 I support that 100%.
00:02:59.820 It's like pretty...
00:03:00.940 People find the same people attractive.
00:03:02.640 What I do not support is,
00:03:03.980 and we cannot take this to mental health,
00:03:06.820 God forbid, if she is to end up in the hospital,
00:03:09.780 and the doctor was like,
00:03:10.700 you're in a health condition at high risk
00:03:12.320 where you have to lose weight.
00:03:14.680 How are you going to feel
00:03:16.040 knowing that you were supporting that person?
00:03:18.580 It's not really supporting, though.
00:03:20.400 It's not about supporting it.
00:03:20.840 Yeah.
00:03:22.140 You're not trying to tell...
00:03:23.820 But you are.
00:03:24.080 But it's still a different aspect of it.
00:03:26.260 Okay, okay.
00:03:27.160 What about people that are born, 0.90
00:03:28.540 like, they're facially,
00:03:29.700 they might be as appealing to everyone.
00:03:30.980 Mental and physical is too big difference.
00:03:32.800 We have to understand that.
00:03:35.180 It's too big difference.
00:03:36.080 We're not talking about mental,
00:03:37.060 we're talking about people's...
00:03:37.740 At the end of the day,
00:03:38.600 I'm supporting how she feels about herself.
00:03:40.720 But we need to realize that beauty is in the eye of the beholder
00:03:43.740 because everyone looks different.
00:03:44.860 Not everyone is born with the same fate.
00:03:46.680 Okay, do you...
00:03:47.400 Okay, okay, I have a question.
00:03:48.360 Do you think you're equally as attractive
00:03:49.860 as that woman on screen?
00:03:51.320 I think it depends who we're asking.
00:03:53.340 Can we just...
00:03:54.440 Do you think that most men would find you more attractive
00:03:56.920 or her more attractive?
00:03:59.240 Please.
00:03:59.780 Please don't please just make this please.
00:04:02.380 That's a serious question.
00:04:04.080 I know you know the answer.
00:04:06.000 Please.
00:04:07.240 But why has it got to be about comparison?
00:04:09.460 Why are big grown people?
00:04:10.660 Please just answer.
00:04:11.540 Please just be an adult.
00:04:12.540 Answer the question.
00:04:13.540 Please.
00:04:13.840 Yeah, it's please.
00:04:14.980 I just don't feel comfortable even answering something like that.
00:04:18.420 I just don't know.
00:04:18.740 Because you know the answer.
00:04:20.920 It's like, I don't know.
00:04:21.900 Most people probably, but like not everyone would...
00:04:25.000 Okay, but most.
00:04:26.000 What did I ask?
00:04:26.800 Most people.
00:04:27.960 Come on, we're adults.
00:04:28.640 Probably, probably.
00:04:29.120 Would find you more attractive, right?
00:04:32.100 Most people.
00:04:32.740 Guys, I think we take it.
00:04:33.960 As I said, I support her...
00:04:35.700 I support her mindset.
00:04:38.360 That's what I'm supporting.
00:04:39.180 I do.
00:04:40.160 But her physical state is too different.
00:04:43.200 I don't support the mindset.
00:04:44.700 I don't think you should be confident in that way.
00:04:46.580 I think you should lose it.
00:04:47.620 I just think you should be unconfident and lose it.
00:04:49.720 And with that confidence, she could use that to get better.
00:04:54.820 Yeah, I believe that.
00:04:55.940 I think that...
00:04:56.740 I support that.
00:04:57.420 I think that hated it.
00:04:58.220 But maybe she is.
00:05:00.360 And each step as she takes, she might be on her way of losing.
00:05:04.300 And who knows?
00:05:04.880 But we don't know that.
00:05:06.380 We don't know her life.
00:05:08.520 We don't know.
00:05:09.140 But right now, in this specific moment, she's happy with herself.
00:05:13.280 And good for her.
00:05:14.640 And that's all I'm supporting.
00:05:15.820 She dropped 10 pounds.
00:05:16.840 We don't know.
00:05:17.780 She might have been bigger than that. 0.99
00:05:19.400 You know.
00:05:19.980 She could.
00:05:20.580 You guys come up with these crazy scenarios.
00:05:22.980 Yeah, but we're only looking at it from how it is.
00:05:24.780 Okay, okay.
00:05:25.160 Wait, wait.
00:05:25.840 How much bigger could she get?
00:05:27.960 Who knows?
00:05:28.940 How much bigger?
00:05:29.840 Bed bound.
00:05:30.880 Who knows?
00:05:31.560 No, but this is what I'm saying.
00:05:33.000 It's like we're supporting this.
00:05:34.480 And we're cheering her on, living in delusion.
00:05:36.840 It's delusion.
00:05:37.740 Yeah, but the question was just hot.
00:05:39.200 I don't know.
00:05:39.920 I asked why do we let women get to this stage of delusion where you're saying I look good 1.00
00:05:44.560 today when you clearly don't.
00:05:46.520 Everybody in the room knows she doesn't.
00:05:48.440 You know you wouldn't want to switch bodies with her. 0.93
00:05:51.000 And it's like I think that honestly a little bit of bullying is good for people.
00:05:56.140 No, it's not.
00:05:56.540 I think I grew from bullying.
00:05:58.740 That's not good for your mental health.
00:06:00.540 I think it's good for strong people.
00:06:02.220 Yeah, but not everybody is though.
00:06:04.700 No, I don't agree that.
00:06:05.820 I do feel like going through stuff can also cut you off from your emotions.
00:06:10.760 You might actually be too calf.
00:06:11.920 You might be hyper independent.
00:06:13.260 That's actually not a good response.
00:06:15.080 What's not a good response?
00:06:16.400 You know, I think it was a great response when I was indirectly told I was fat.
00:06:21.180 I ran a marathon and lost that weight, baby.
00:06:23.500 I'm just glad that happened.
00:06:25.280 But it's like this society.
00:06:27.560 It's like we can't call spade a spade. 0.99
00:06:29.880 She's fat. 1.00
00:06:30.640 No, because there's more to it. 0.93
00:06:32.360 There's always more to it.
00:06:33.020 We keep going back to mental health.
00:06:35.540 And as I told you, mental and physical two big differences.
00:06:38.880 I think it's important to appreciate what different people look like because we actually
00:06:41.840 can't help it all the time.
00:06:42.880 Yes, okay.
00:06:43.580 Weight is a bit different thing.
00:06:44.800 But like we can't judge people's appearance all the time because sometimes it's not someone's
00:06:48.080 choice.
00:06:48.940 I think we should judge people's appearances.
00:06:50.920 I don't think we should judge anyone at all.
00:06:53.540 Well, I think she shouldn't judge at all. 0.99
00:06:55.200 I think that you guys are liars. 0.91
00:06:58.660 I think you go through life and you do judge people's appearances. 0.96
00:07:01.680 We have good standards of morals where we've been taught not to judge other people based
00:07:05.320 on their appearances.
00:07:06.000 I think that you do judge people's appearances every day, just like you did when we were
00:07:12.320 talking about the dating and you said you wouldn't date obese.
00:07:14.960 Why did you judge?
00:07:16.180 Judger? 0.54
00:07:16.880 Judger? 0.54
00:07:17.360 That's not a judge.
00:07:18.020 Judger, you're a race of the morals. 0.97
00:07:19.380 Judger!
00:07:19.920 That's a personal preference.
00:07:21.620 That's a personal preference.
00:07:22.140 It's personal preference.
00:07:23.060 It's completely different.
00:07:24.460 I'm not sitting here watching, putting up a photo and saying, that person's fat.
00:07:28.760 Ha ha.
00:07:29.220 I'm not doing that.
00:07:30.220 It's a personal preference.
00:07:31.520 I don't like it and that's okay.
00:07:33.120 If me and an obese person ran a race, right, would you say that I am faster because, you
00:07:40.500 know, I was lighter?
00:07:42.060 Of course.
00:07:43.180 It's a fact.
00:07:43.440 I was judging.
00:07:44.940 Yeah, but it's a fact.
00:07:46.740 It's a fact. 0.99
00:07:47.240 If you're a liar and you're running against the fat person, of course you're going to 1.00
00:07:50.960 win. 0.99
00:07:51.040 So we are speaking on facts.
00:07:52.500 When she put that picture up and she asked that question, it was a fact that she is obese.
00:07:58.040 Yeah, she is obese. 1.00
00:07:59.600 But I'm just praising her.
00:08:01.320 I'm praising how she receives it.
00:08:03.520 I'm praising how she sees herself.
00:08:05.700 And I agree with her.
00:08:06.200 And that's it, man.
00:08:07.100 And I agree with her.
00:08:07.740 That's what I support.
00:08:08.700 I think you're praising delusion.
00:08:11.200 It's not delusion.
00:08:12.340 It's just her loving herself. 0.72
00:08:14.160 If she's paying for her own health care, why do we even care at all? 1.00
00:08:16.860 Like, it doesn't affect us at all.
00:08:20.980 I know what you're doing.
00:08:23.320 I know what you're doing.
00:08:24.660 I'm a so drawer.
00:08:25.240 I know what you're doing.
00:08:26.760 I know what you're doing.
00:08:28.100 Why do I care if she's obese? 1.00
00:08:31.980 As a person, I don't know her.
00:08:34.360 But as a society, I don't think we should be promoting obesity.
00:08:38.420 I think that obese people take a toll on the health care system.
00:08:42.640 And it's really hard on her family.
00:08:44.800 Like, maybe if she has kids, siblings, parents, they're the ones that are going to have to take
00:08:48.940 care of her.
00:08:49.860 Therefore, I think that is selfish to be that obese.
00:08:52.400 If she has kids, even if it's parents, now your parents have to watch their kid die.
00:08:57.080 I think it's just her choice.
00:08:58.840 And if she's happy with how she is, then that's fine.
00:09:01.920 If she's not happy how she is, then you can pass judgment.
00:09:05.280 Then you can have...
00:09:06.200 And her family could be trying to help her.
00:09:08.020 You know what I'm saying?
00:09:08.740 If she's happy, if she's okay with it, you know?
00:09:11.520 I do agree with it being posted on social media.
00:09:13.860 Be happy with that for yourself, by yourself.
00:09:16.600 I do agree with it.
00:09:17.140 I don't know.
00:09:17.980 Yeah.
00:09:18.520 Thank you.
00:09:19.020 I don't know.