JustPearlyThings - June 05, 2023


Female Guests Puts Modern Woman In Her Place


Episode Stats

Length

9 minutes

Words per Minute

245.86214

Word Count

2,347

Sentence Count

292

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

On this episode of the podcast, we have our first guest on the show, Denalva. She is a woman that has been on the internet for a very long time. She has been in the media for a long time and has been a part of various media outlets. In this episode, we talk about her journey of coming to China and how she has dealt with the challenges she has had to deal with.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So I feel like understanding her personality and then when it comes time in here to interview, you're going to get a little bit of a different person.
00:00:06.720 That's because you did a research, you knew her.
00:00:09.320 But it's also your responsibility to do your due diligence too, you know what I mean?
00:00:13.140 Let me tell you, Esther, Esther, we are on the same boat.
00:00:16.480 But again, 30 minutes, it doesn't take long to research me.
00:00:18.920 We are on the same boat.
00:00:19.920 Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:00:23.120 The last thing on my mind is, oh, this is going to be our talk.
00:00:25.240 Esther, Esther, you need to relax.
00:00:26.340 No, because you've talked a lot.
00:00:27.960 Let me stop it for two seconds because this is the truth.
00:00:30.640 What I don't like and what I will not stand for is somebody that actually had the exact same experience as me.
00:00:36.100 Be upset because you could not handle it with the substance of the woman that you are.
00:00:40.720 Pearl and anybody on this podcast, what they did to you that night is they won.
00:00:46.140 You lost.
00:00:47.260 It's not about women.
00:00:48.300 No, it is.
00:00:48.780 It's a conversation.
00:00:49.440 Wait, wait, wait.
00:00:50.140 We are on the podcast.
00:00:51.020 No, no, no, you're cutting me off.
00:00:52.400 And this is the problem that they had with you then because you're not willing to listen to where you went wrong.
00:00:56.720 You went wrong because you are not strong enough in your opinion.
00:01:00.080 I've come here.
00:01:00.900 I've got way more hate than you.
00:01:03.020 Way more hate than you.
00:01:04.180 All the super chats, every single comment on there is about Denalva, how she delusional.
00:01:08.520 She'll end up on hold.
00:01:09.400 I'm older than you.
00:01:10.540 So on top of that, I'm even more of a target.
00:01:12.660 I'm single too.
00:01:14.040 So I've had that sort of attitude.
00:01:15.780 In fact, on that same day that I came, Sarah came for me.
00:01:19.460 A man came for me and he told me a lot of things.
00:01:21.460 And I held my own.
00:01:22.340 Why?
00:01:23.060 Because as a woman, I stand on my own two feet.
00:01:26.780 I believe my truth.
00:01:28.300 And there ain't no thing that nobody can tell me.
00:01:30.220 One or two that can make me change my mind because I know who I am.
00:01:33.320 If you're coming on the internet and you're going to put your voice out there, be sure that you know who you are because people will come to you.
00:01:39.200 And if you doubt yourself, that's where it goes wrong.
00:01:41.560 Your problem was that you were weak to come here.
00:01:43.960 No, it was.
00:01:44.600 It's about, I'm not, I'm not here to argue.
00:01:47.100 It was a podcast.
00:01:48.040 I thought we were all just talking about how our opinions.
00:01:51.040 I didn't know it was going to be ridiculous.
00:01:52.040 But what if someone doesn't agree with your opinion?
00:01:54.320 Exactly.
00:01:54.920 That's fine.
00:01:55.400 Right.
00:01:55.840 You're not agreeing with me.
00:01:56.920 It's okay.
00:01:57.560 But it's when you're saying my faith is weak.
00:01:59.460 Okay.
00:01:59.780 So hold on.
00:02:00.280 Hold on.
00:02:00.520 Hold on.
00:02:00.780 Hold on.
00:02:01.020 I want to go to that.
00:02:02.600 Hold on.
00:02:03.120 I want to go to that.
00:02:04.960 She was there.
00:02:05.860 Because if you look at it, because I was sitting there and you were talking.
00:02:11.260 If you look at it and you listen to what you're saying and how you say you believe this way,
00:02:16.800 you went one place and you changed your whole belief system.
00:02:20.280 It's like, how can you be this and then go somewhere, instantly change it?
00:02:24.660 Because of you saying that, sitting in this seat right here, it gave other people a perspective
00:02:31.760 that you weren't strong enough in your faith to go to another place to where it was a different
00:02:38.700 environment, different religion, different everything to be able to stay strong in that
00:02:42.700 as soon as you got there, or not as soon as you got there, but when you got there,
00:02:46.440 it changed.
00:02:47.140 It flipped.
00:02:47.420 So from the words that came out of your mouth, it gave other people a perspective.
00:02:52.920 And that's what they were saying to you.
00:02:54.460 It wasn't that they were saying you were on a podcast with lots of people talking.
00:02:58.240 You guys didn't even let me finish.
00:03:00.220 You didn't let me know.
00:03:00.980 We didn't let you.
00:03:02.100 We did let you finish.
00:03:03.100 Yes, we did.
00:03:03.940 We did let you finish because you.
00:03:05.760 That's how it started where I started to.
00:03:08.220 It wasn't because I went to China.
00:03:09.920 It was because I just started reflecting on life.
00:03:13.300 So I'm not saying I literally just went to China on my faith.
00:03:16.620 But that's what you said.
00:03:17.900 No, I didn't.
00:03:19.800 Okay.
00:03:20.360 But even if it, even if, okay, let's say it.
00:03:23.720 How, okay, okay, okay.
00:03:24.980 Even if, even if, even if it happened over, even.
00:03:27.860 Can we talk about something else?
00:03:28.740 Even this what you're doing.
00:03:30.080 So what you're doing right now is emotional response to something that you can just say,
00:03:33.480 do you know what?
00:03:34.280 I did get emotional, but I fucked up.
00:03:35.940 Fuck you, the haters.
00:03:37.220 I'm a G.
00:03:38.040 I'll still stick by what I stand.
00:03:39.540 My faith is not weak.
00:03:41.020 I went to China.
00:03:41.780 I just saw a different perspective.
00:03:43.120 And I reanalyzed.
00:03:44.820 Bam.
00:03:45.620 Situation finito.
00:03:46.400 I feel like I don't really benefit from it.
00:03:49.160 Do you know what I mean?
00:03:49.460 You do.
00:03:49.940 To me, it's not really something I want to talk about.
00:03:52.900 But you don't benefit from reacting like this and putting something out there and not allowing
00:03:56.900 for people to explain to you anything wrong.
00:03:57.060 If you didn't want to talk about it, you went on another podcast and talked about it.
00:04:00.940 I spoke about it because when are we walking, when we went on Eddie's show, you know,
00:04:04.860 Eddie orchestrated the whole thing, right?
00:04:06.720 So we went on the show.
00:04:07.800 We were meant to talk about, I can't even remember, women and relationships.
00:04:10.740 He said Soraya wanted to talk about it.
00:04:13.100 Was that not true?
00:04:13.980 No, that's a lie.
00:04:14.880 So Soraya was talking about experience and then Eddie was like, this is good content.
00:04:18.940 Let's film.
00:04:19.640 And he just started filming.
00:04:21.060 So obviously, I'll say it in my chat.
00:04:26.820 You don't have to.
00:04:27.500 I didn't feel like you were rude.
00:04:28.240 And I said it on the show, but that's just is what it is.
00:04:31.400 I'm ready to move on from it because it is just what it is.
00:04:34.260 I don't personally, I don't agree with that way of conducting.
00:04:36.920 I don't care about thick skin.
00:04:38.060 We don't need to be thick skin.
00:04:39.160 I'm sorry.
00:04:39.480 You do have to.
00:04:40.240 I'm sorry.
00:04:40.500 We need to have censorship.
00:04:41.780 No.
00:04:42.340 Unless people know what they're going into.
00:04:44.640 We know my sister.
00:04:45.900 If we had censorship, then who's the one that's going to control that?
00:04:48.700 Because if we have censorship, according to Pearl's followers, I should be shut down immediately.
00:04:53.600 What I'm trying to say is not everyone is you.
00:04:55.740 And exactly.
00:04:57.120 Then the whole point is don't come.
00:05:02.600 No, I'll tell you something.
00:05:03.860 The whole point.
00:05:04.680 I don't want that cloud.
00:05:06.020 The whole point is if you ain't like me, don't go and talk like you're like me.
00:05:09.940 Don't go sit against somebody like Pearl.
00:05:11.500 No one's trying to beat you.
00:05:12.420 I beg.
00:05:13.020 Move the fuck on, man.
00:05:14.440 No one's trying to beat you.
00:05:15.680 Move on.
00:05:15.700 Even what you're doing now.
00:05:16.740 Let's move on.
00:05:17.560 Let's move on.
00:05:18.640 This is why you're put on.
00:05:19.700 And I'm not going to move on.
00:05:20.660 No.
00:05:20.840 I will finish my thought.
00:05:21.980 Why are you so bothered about talking?
00:05:22.740 I will tell you.
00:05:23.580 Oh my God.
00:05:24.080 Move on.
00:05:25.140 Because you are the problem with modern women.
00:05:26.860 And I'll tell you why.
00:05:27.600 You are the problem with modern women.
00:05:28.320 No, I am not.
00:05:29.220 Because I stand here and people come for me.
00:05:31.640 And as the struggle.
00:05:32.260 You just be cloud chasing.
00:05:33.520 I beg.
00:05:33.700 You're cutting me off.
00:05:34.500 You just be cloud chasing.
00:05:35.080 You're cutting me off.
00:05:36.360 The same way.
00:05:36.980 You just be cloud chasing.
00:05:37.420 I said I want to move on.
00:05:38.420 No, I don't care.
00:05:39.380 I don't care.
00:05:39.940 Move the fuck on.
00:05:40.900 First of all, you're younger than me.
00:05:42.360 You're rude.
00:05:42.720 So, why are we still talking about this?
00:05:44.460 This is the reason why you got into the trouble that you got into.
00:05:47.460 Because you're disrespectful.
00:05:48.480 It's not trouble.
00:05:49.080 You're rude.
00:05:50.020 And you don't know how to look back.
00:05:51.400 It's a novel.
00:05:51.880 How many times I was that I want to move on from that?
00:05:52.960 I beg.
00:05:53.360 I beg.
00:05:53.480 I don't care about it.
00:05:54.320 I don't care because I don't want to.
00:05:55.640 And I am very much more entitled to finish my thought.
00:05:57.700 Okay, keep talking.
00:05:58.240 Thank you.
00:05:58.780 Keep talking.
00:05:58.980 If you don't interrupt me, then I'll tell you.
00:06:01.060 Very, very well done to you.
00:06:02.340 Because I'll tell you something.
00:06:03.600 When you come on the internet, wherever you go, you think you got a voice.
00:06:07.440 You stand by it.
00:06:08.340 You don't take it back and get upset because somebody didn't agree with you.
00:06:11.320 I've had way more hate than you.
00:06:13.120 I've had a lot more rejection and a lot more reactions against me than you have had.
00:06:18.000 And I stood here.
00:06:18.980 And the reason why it didn't stick to me is because I am not weak.
00:06:22.260 I stand in my thoughts.
00:06:23.980 I stand in my beliefs.
00:06:25.060 I stand in my truth.
00:06:26.440 If you are not a woman that can speak in her truth, do not put yourself against people
00:06:31.120 that go against you.
00:06:32.040 It's that simple.
00:06:33.020 I've said it so many times.
00:06:33.680 No, no, no.
00:06:34.280 You're full of excuses.
00:06:35.440 I don't want that car.
00:06:36.040 I don't want that car.
00:06:36.980 Then you should have got up.
00:06:38.040 You don't want that car.
00:06:38.740 I don't.
00:06:39.840 Okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:06:40.740 You should have got up.
00:06:41.760 Guys, guys.
00:06:42.460 Okay, let's.
00:06:42.840 I did try.
00:06:43.280 No, you didn't.
00:06:44.000 But I already did.
00:06:44.420 And why didn't you?
00:06:45.160 Okay.
00:06:45.500 You should have got up.
00:06:46.080 Because I don't get why you're so hyped about it.
00:06:47.700 Like, what the fuck?
00:06:48.120 Because you're talking shit now.
00:06:49.420 You're talking shit.
00:06:50.120 No, because you're at me.
00:06:51.260 Because it's not about you.
00:06:51.840 You keep making about.
00:06:52.600 Esther.
00:06:52.800 I can handle it.
00:06:53.480 No, it's about.
00:06:54.160 No, it's about.
00:06:55.420 It's about the fact.
00:06:56.240 Everybody cares about how.
00:06:58.220 Some people want to let some people vote.
00:07:00.380 I don't want to.
00:07:01.300 Esther.
00:07:01.720 I don't want to come here.
00:07:02.420 Esther.
00:07:02.960 To receive it.
00:07:03.540 You are the exact example.
00:07:04.680 Stop making it about yourself.
00:07:05.720 It's not about me.
00:07:06.780 It's about the fact.
00:07:07.480 You're making it about yourself.
00:07:08.220 Bro, you went against somebody like Pearl.
00:07:10.760 And this is about Pearl.
00:07:11.740 I won't even make it about myself.
00:07:13.300 Let's dick cry now.
00:07:13.960 Pearl.
00:07:14.660 Pearl came for me the same way.
00:07:16.260 In fact, I argue with Pearl way more than you do.
00:07:18.060 I've been on this show way more times than you have.
00:07:19.820 I faced Auntie Jenny way more times than you have.
00:07:22.720 Why is it about you?
00:07:23.380 I bet wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:07:25.100 Oh my God.
00:07:25.460 Shut up and listen.
00:07:26.520 You're so obsessing yourself.
00:07:27.460 Be quiet.
00:07:27.960 No, she's giving what she is.
00:07:29.540 She's giving an example.
00:07:31.680 She's saying that she's been in your.
00:07:33.680 She's talking about her.
00:07:34.260 But listen, listen, listen.
00:07:36.480 I don't want that type of clout.
00:07:37.740 I'm not doing this for clout.
00:07:38.980 No, but she's not saying that she's doing it for clout.
00:07:41.620 She's giving an example that she's been in your shoes,
00:07:44.860 but she's handled it a different way.
00:07:46.200 She's taking it.
00:07:46.900 I'm not saying well done to her.
00:07:47.940 No, but it's not about saying.
00:07:48.560 Why are we still going back?
00:07:49.480 I beg, because you've not let me finish.
00:07:51.640 You've not let me finish because you say you want to move on.
00:07:53.920 If you want to move on, let me finish speaking
00:07:55.420 because I'm more stubborn than you
00:07:56.560 and I'll not stop until I finish my point.
00:07:58.600 And my point simply is,
00:08:00.480 if you are not willing to take shit,
00:08:02.360 don't go and talk.
00:08:03.440 If you're not willing to stand your ground as a woman,
00:08:06.420 don't go out there and be going for a fight.
00:08:08.440 If you're not ready to fight,
00:08:09.680 you exit the situation straight away.
00:08:11.300 If you want to stay and fight,
00:08:12.560 you stand tall and you fight.
00:08:14.280 I'm not afraid to sit here and argue with Pearl.
00:08:16.240 Listen, I didn't go into a fight.
00:08:17.240 You're still cutting me off.
00:08:18.480 You're still cutting me off.
00:08:19.540 Listen.
00:08:19.820 You had a conversation that didn't go your way.
00:08:21.980 You didn't like what you heard
00:08:22.960 and now you're labeling Pearl to be misogynistic,
00:08:25.260 racist and this and that.
00:08:26.380 When I've had the same experience
00:08:27.960 on the podcast you did,
00:08:29.500 I've had the same experience.
00:08:30.760 I've had bigger head-to-heads
00:08:32.220 with both people that you're referring to
00:08:34.060 and I don't feel the same way
00:08:35.380 because I understand it's not personal.
00:08:37.340 It's not about race.
00:08:38.120 It's about who are you?
00:08:39.760 What do you stand for?
00:08:40.880 How much do you respect yourself
00:08:42.280 and what you think and what you believe?
00:08:44.060 And clearly,
00:08:44.940 but how you have acted,
00:08:46.060 even how you're acting right now,
00:08:47.560 it's not very high.
00:08:48.480 I just think you're dick-righting.
00:08:50.120 I don't need to dick-right.
00:08:51.560 Because I told you how I feel
00:08:53.040 and I don't care about how you feel.
00:08:55.160 I do not care about how you feel.
00:08:56.520 Even when you say that,
00:08:57.700 you expose yourself.
00:08:59.040 How come you can express how you feel
00:09:00.420 but she can't express how she feels.
00:09:03.540 Because at the end of the day,
00:09:05.120 you asked about my experience, right?
00:09:06.720 If we're going to talk about denial of experience,
00:09:07.580 I didn't ask about your experience.
00:09:09.240 Don't bring it about your experience
00:09:11.060 about my experience.
00:09:11.860 Okay, fine.
00:09:12.960 Let's not please disjointed.
00:09:14.480 Let's make it denial of it
00:09:15.580 and forget about Esther.
00:09:16.700 Let me tell you.
00:09:17.320 A powerful, strong woman
00:09:19.160 that respects herself
00:09:20.380 and holds the truth
00:09:21.580 will sit here
00:09:22.780 and have people shouting in her ear
00:09:24.840 telling her that she was not abused
00:09:26.740 for five years
00:09:27.560 because she didn't report it to the police.
00:09:28.920 And guess what she does?
00:09:29.800 She sits there with compulsion,
00:09:31.380 says,
00:09:31.680 you say what you got to say.