JustPearlyThings - November 09, 2023


Feminism Gets DISMANTLED by the Panel for Ruining Everything


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In this episode, we talk about feminism and whether or not it has been a mistake or not. We discuss the history of feminism and the impact it has had on our society. We also discuss the role of women in society and the importance of women having the right to vote.

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00:00:00.000 Just generally, yes or no, is feminism a mistake here and then go around? 0.99
00:00:07.000 I've got to say no.
00:00:10.000 Why?
00:00:11.000 Why?
00:00:12.000 Because I feel like there's a few steps that have gone, you know what I'm saying?
00:00:15.000 They've gone a good way.
00:00:17.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:00:18.000 But at certain times, you can be taken a bit far, isn't it?
00:00:21.000 So I'll say no for now.
00:00:23.000 Okay.
00:00:25.000 So when you say feminism, 0.98
00:00:27.000 so the initial idea of what feminism was meant to be, 0.94
00:00:30.000 then yes, women have the right for equality and all those types of things. 1.00
00:00:34.000 But from what it was initially to what it is now, they're not.
00:00:37.000 Really?
00:00:38.000 Because when it started, they were known as terrorists.
00:00:40.000 They planned assassinations.
00:00:42.000 Okay, well, not that part.
00:00:44.000 No, but what I mean is like the idea of women being able to do certain things, 1.00
00:00:49.000 I have no problem with that.
00:00:50.000 But then it's what's being created from that to this new age feminism 1.00
00:00:54.000 and sometimes people call toxic feminism, whatever you want to call it, 1.00
00:00:57.000 neo-feminism.
00:00:58.000 It's just a bit extreme.
00:00:59.000 And that's the one which we tend to see modern day.
00:01:03.000 Okay.
00:01:04.000 For me, I think it was a mistake.
00:01:06.000 I lived quite a feminist lifestyle for quite some time. 1.00
00:01:09.000 Not actively, not realising, but just being from this culture and stuff.
00:01:13.000 And for me personally, I find it a mistake.
00:01:15.000 What do you mean you lived a feminist lifestyle? 1.00
00:01:17.000 I'm independent financially and all of those things.
00:01:20.000 And I kind of pursued my career for a really long time.
00:01:23.000 I pursued my academics for a really long time.
00:01:25.000 I really appreciate all of that.
00:01:27.000 But I think as you get older, you realise how unfulfilling all of those things are.
00:01:32.000 And when you're sold that dream for a really long time,
00:01:34.000 you're so convinced that that can't wait.
00:01:37.000 And you're so convinced that marriage, kids and becoming all those things
00:01:41.000 that are more traditional can wait.
00:01:43.000 When really biologically, it's the other way around.
00:01:45.000 So for me, I would say it has been a mistake.
00:01:47.000 I'm curious.
00:01:48.000 What age did you switch your thinking?
00:01:50.000 I've always not realised I was like this.
00:01:53.000 I never realised it was just part of life.
00:01:55.000 It was just like you go study, you go carry on and you become more career.
00:01:59.000 But as I became more academically astute,
00:02:01.000 I realised that it's actually hindering some of my more nurturing and like my core values.
00:02:08.000 And so I would say that as I turned about 26, I realised that I've got all of the things I need in life,
00:02:17.000 but I'm not fulfilled.
00:02:18.000 So clearly I've been sold the wrong dream.
00:02:20.000 Yeah.
00:02:21.000 So I'd say around then.
00:02:22.000 Around 26.
00:02:23.000 Yeah.
00:02:24.000 What do you think was feminism a mistake? 1.00
00:02:25.000 I would say no, only because I think the general idea of why feminism was started,
00:02:31.000 it came with good intentions, I would like to believe.
00:02:35.000 But I also support the Dave Chappelle joke where he said,
00:02:39.000 the feminist should have picked a man to lead their cause, innit? 1.00
00:02:48.000 I think the problem is obviously feminism started before social media was a thing. 1.00
00:02:52.000 Um, and now you've just got too many people online stating their opinions that just don't need to be heard.
00:02:59.000 Um, and they've just radicalised, uh, sort of a pure movement and just made it toxic.
00:03:04.000 Mm-hmm.
00:03:05.000 So out of the people that said yes, what good came out of feminism? 1.00
00:03:12.000 Well, like the vote and that.
00:03:14.000 Women getting to vote.
00:03:15.000 Eh, okay.
00:03:16.000 Yeah, I don't vote to be fair if I'm honest.
00:03:21.000 I don't actually vote.
00:03:22.000 That's another story.
00:03:23.000 Yeah, I'm one of those ones.
00:03:24.000 I don't know.
00:03:25.000 Do you guys vote?
00:03:26.000 Does everyone vote?
00:03:27.000 Yeah.
00:03:28.000 I do.
00:03:29.000 When I'm in the US.
00:03:30.000 Yeah, I don't actually vote.
00:03:31.000 To me, yeah.
00:03:32.000 I'm curious.
00:03:33.000 If you had to be drafted the same as a man.
00:03:36.000 Mm-hmm.
00:03:37.000 If you had to do that in order to vote, would you do it?
00:03:40.000 Absolutely not.
00:03:41.000 I don't care.
00:03:42.000 I really don't care about what's going on.
00:03:44.000 I don't feel, I don't care enough about these things in life to fight for it because it doesn't affect my reality.
00:03:51.000 So the laws and this, that and the other, it doesn't really affect my personal reality enough for me to want to go get drafted to vote.
00:03:58.000 Yeah, it's not serious enough.
00:03:59.000 No, it's interesting because there was a certain, I won't name names, YouTuber, that like I was saying that,
00:04:06.000 because I think feminism from the beginning has been freedom without responsibility. 1.00
00:04:10.000 So they wanted the freedom to vote without the responsibility of being in the draft.
00:04:13.000 Mm-hmm.
00:04:14.000 And a lot of people think that like that, it was something we had to fight for, but it was actually a freedom.
00:04:18.000 Mm-hmm.
00:04:19.000 Um, that men had because they had the responsibility.
00:04:21.000 Yeah.
00:04:22.000 And, and it's kind of like, I don't know.
00:04:26.000 Yeah, because we talk a lot about how women were oppressed because they couldn't vote, but men were like, had to go to war.
00:04:33.000 And so it's like, you're that oppressed because you didn't get to vote.
00:04:36.000 But your husband is now being drafted and potentially killed and come back with PTSD if he does survive and no survival, no therapy, nothing like that.
00:04:44.000 So I don't see how we had it so bad comparatively.
00:04:47.000 I think everybody had it bad.
00:04:48.000 I think we had it pretty good.
00:04:49.000 Yeah.
00:04:50.000 Oh my God, chilling.
00:04:51.000 I would have loved that life.
00:04:52.000 So now I don't understand why we were seen as the oppressed back then.
00:04:56.000 Yeah.
00:04:57.000 I didn't see it as an oppressive, I didn't think it was one.
00:04:59.000 So I think men were really oppressed back then.
00:05:01.000 Mm-hmm.
00:05:02.000 And going to war and all this stuff that they didn't even know anything about and then being forced to just do it.
00:05:06.000 I think that was more oppressive than not being able to vote.
00:05:09.000 Mm-hmm.
00:05:10.000 Okay.
00:05:11.000 Who else said yes?
00:05:12.000 So what do you think?
00:05:13.000 Pretty much.
00:05:14.000 Yeah.
00:05:15.000 Okay.
00:05:16.000 Okay.
00:05:17.000 Go ahead.
00:05:18.000 What do you guys think?
00:05:19.000 What freedom did we get out of feminism? 1.00
00:05:20.000 That was good.
00:05:21.000 I didn't say it was good.
00:05:22.000 Okay.
00:05:23.000 What do you think?
00:05:24.000 Well, freedom.
00:05:25.000 Do you know what it is?
00:05:26.000 It's just more about the option.
00:05:27.000 Mm-hmm.
00:05:28.000 I think that was the main thing is just having the option to be able to do the same things.
00:05:32.000 Not necessarily that you need to do the same things, but just the fact that it's not a no if you want to.
00:05:37.000 Mm-hmm.
00:05:38.000 I think that's the main thing.
00:05:39.000 Okay.
00:05:40.000 Do you guys think that women should be equally drafted now that we can vote?
00:05:45.000 Yes.
00:05:46.000 So front lines?
00:05:49.000 Actually, no.
00:05:50.000 Yeah, cool.
00:05:51.000 Front lines, yeah.
00:05:52.000 Front lines.
00:05:53.000 Equal rights, equal rights.
00:05:54.000 No?
00:05:55.000 Why?
00:05:56.000 Because, I mean, if women are equally drafted, then it's not like your opponents are going to draft women equally.
00:06:01.000 They are going to come with men. 0.97
00:06:02.000 So you're just going to lose at the end of the day.
00:06:04.000 No, no.
00:06:05.000 We do it.
00:06:06.000 They do it.
00:06:07.000 It becomes a whole worldwide thing and women actually get the equality that they- 0.55
00:06:08.000 I don't think the whole world is going to follow through with that.
00:06:10.000 No.
00:06:11.000 But what I'm trying to say to you is across the world, women want equality and they want the same rights as men, right?
00:06:16.000 So if you want the right to vote, which is fine.
00:06:18.000 I'm not saying we shouldn't, but why shouldn't we?
00:06:20.000 I'd say the main reason why that's not the case is because just like you've seen in the whole Ukraine situation, the women need to kind of be with the kids. 1.00
00:06:27.000 Yeah.
00:06:28.000 No, they don't.
00:06:29.000 No, no.
00:06:30.000 But if, if there's a war, if the war kicks off, you've got men going to war.
00:06:34.000 If the women go to war as well, who's going to look after the kids? 1.00
00:06:37.000 I know, but we're prescribing to what is supposed to happen.
00:06:39.000 This isn't what has been taught now.
00:06:40.000 What has been taught now is they can do that.
00:06:42.000 And if they, if that's what they scream out from the, from all the social media and everything, then we should give them the opportunity.
00:06:48.000 But in real life, they don't want to do that.
00:06:49.000 No, no.
00:06:50.000 Opportunity is fine.
00:06:51.000 That's fine.
00:06:52.000 But obviously in reality, you can't, like if he said, right, women and men have to go to war, then who's going to look after the kids?
00:06:59.000 No, but they don't say they don't go to war because to, so what you're saying is, I agree what you're saying, but the reason that women say they don't go to war is not because they're staying at home to look after the kids.
00:07:09.000 So what you're saying is women, women shouldn't be drafted because they need to stay at home to look after the kids. 1.00
00:07:13.000 But then what they would argue is, no, we're not staying at home to look after the kids.
00:07:17.000 We want equal rights as you.
00:07:19.000 So I agree with you.
00:07:20.000 I don't believe.
00:07:21.000 If war kicks off, there's not a single woman that's going to be saying that.
00:07:24.000 All the feminists will go quiet. 1.00
00:07:25.000 I'm just trying to start a contradiction.
00:07:27.000 No, I get that.
00:07:28.000 No, that was my point.
00:07:30.000 And there was like a clip of me that was taken out of context where I said, if I had to pick between getting drafted and voted, like, I would get drafted.
00:07:38.000 And voted.
00:07:39.000 Like, I would give that shit up.
00:07:40.000 Easy.
00:07:41.000 Yeah.
00:07:42.000 I am scared.
00:07:43.000 I will not be on the front lines.
00:07:46.000 I swear to God, what do you want me to cook?
00:07:48.000 What do you want me to clean?
00:07:50.000 I saw your picture.
00:07:51.000 I saw your picture.
00:07:52.000 I swear to God, I'll run into the kitchen and not walk in.
00:07:55.000 And I also think like having so many options isn't necessarily good for everybody.
00:07:59.000 I think it's like having the option to do everything you want doesn't necessarily mean you'll be happier.
00:08:04.000 Sometimes it can make you quite confused and you get distracted.
00:08:07.000 And I know I experienced that in my life.
00:08:09.000 So I know that like feminism gave women all these options to do whatever they want. 1.00
00:08:13.000 But I don't know if that actually leads to life satisfaction, having too many options.
00:08:17.000 You do realise, right?
00:08:18.000 And I like the fact that you're saying that because this is one of the things that we're
00:08:21.000 saying when it comes down to things like comparison, like, and bodies, right?
00:08:27.000 Most of the reason why people unhappy is because they can always compare into something.
00:08:31.000 So if you've never had an experience, people can call it naivety.
00:08:35.000 But when you have too much of an experience, you're always going to compare something to you.
00:08:38.000 So when you say it like that, it's one of those ones where they've told you,
00:08:40.000 you can do all of these things.
00:08:41.000 And sometimes when you actually do some of these things, you're like, yeah, I don't want it.
00:08:46.000 Because even psychologically, even when you go to a restaurant,
00:08:48.000 when there's too many things on the menu, you naturally just like,
00:08:51.000 that's why we like home cooked meals.
00:08:52.000 There's no alternatives.
00:08:53.000 And that just applies to life.
00:08:54.000 So that's why I don't think having so many options is necessarily a gift in life.
00:09:00.000 Feminists would disagree though. 1.00
00:09:02.000 I was going to say whatever.
00:09:05.000 Who said that?
00:09:07.000 As a feminist would disagree. 0.94
00:09:08.000 Why?
00:09:09.000 Because that's what their whole movement is.
00:09:12.000 I feel, well, I think, and I know that most of the reason that they come out and say all of these things
00:09:20.000 is because they're just trying to prove that they can do exactly what a man can do.
00:09:24.000 And the funny thing is when it comes to men, you hardly find any of us arguing
00:09:29.000 and trying to prove that we are stronger than you are doing all of that, even amongst ourselves.
00:09:34.000 Naturally, you know when you're in a room with guys, everyone just kind of knows where they belong
00:09:38.000 and then just automatically sorts themselves out.
00:09:41.000 But I just noticed that whenever women are involved in that kind of equation, 1.00
00:09:44.000 then things just go out of place.
00:09:46.000 I think Kevin Samuels used to use the analogy of there is some TV show where they put women and men on an island.
00:09:58.000 Fear factor.
00:09:59.000 No, it wasn't.
00:10:00.000 It wasn't fear factor.
00:10:01.000 Bear Grylls.
00:10:02.000 Yeah, and it was like where they had to survive.
00:10:04.000 Yeah.
00:10:05.000 And the women, like they had to save within like two days and the men were completely functioning.
00:10:10.000 It was like they need a bit of Wi-Fi there by the second week or something.
00:10:14.000 So why do you guys think there is this disdain towards men from feminists when they say they want equality?
00:10:21.000 I feel like they're just conditioned to do it.
00:10:23.000 I feel like they're just told that men are the enemy.
00:10:26.000 But if you speak to many women and ask them about their lived experience, very few will say,
00:10:31.000 oh, my male boss was a nightmare or this man was so bad.
00:10:34.000 They'll always say, oh, I had this boss.
00:10:36.000 She was a right bitch and it's always a woman. 1.00
00:10:38.000 And as we all know, like I know from my experience on social media with women and stuff,
00:10:43.000 it's always been more, most of my difficulties in life have come from other women. 1.00
00:10:47.000 So I always combine like my lived experience with my thoughts.
00:10:51.000 Whereas I think a lot of feminists haven't even even branched out to the idea of what is my life experience been like? 1.00
00:10:59.000 Have men actually been oppressing me?
00:11:01.000 Has it been more women stopping me from progressing at work? 1.00
00:11:03.000 And if they took a moment to actually reflect on that, they realize men aren't the enemy.
00:11:07.000 It doesn't mean anyone's the enemy, but men definitely aren't the enemy.
00:11:10.000 And I think they're not given that option to kind of or given that encouragement to reflect on their own experiences.
00:11:16.000 I blame social media.
00:11:18.000 Because the loudest people online are the people that have been scorned,
00:11:21.000 that are just upset about stuff for the sake of it.
00:11:24.000 So they're the people that are just in the comments making all the noise.
00:11:27.000 And then that kind of shifts the narrative of what people actually think is normal.
00:11:31.000 When in reality, most women probably don't think like most feminists. 1.00
00:11:35.000 It's just a very small percentage of angry women. 1.00
00:11:38.000 But they're vocal, isn't it?
00:11:39.000 But they're vocal, exactly.
00:11:40.000 So it kind of magnifies it.
00:11:41.000 It makes them seem like there's more of them than there actually are,
00:11:43.000 just because they're the ones that are the most vocal.
00:11:45.000 Whereas all the normal women that are just getting on with their lives, 1.00
00:11:48.000 that don't think that way, they're just sitting there watching.
00:11:50.000 They're not really entertaining.
00:11:52.000 Yeah, but bro, women need to call other women out. 1.00
00:11:54.000 Because it's like, there's a very small proportion of women, right? 1.00
00:11:57.000 That think like this, right?
00:11:59.000 But they're loud and their voices are amplified.
00:12:02.000 And the women that actually is not the majority,
00:12:04.000 it's actually the minority that's doing that.
00:12:06.000 They don't say anything and women don't like to be called out. 1.00
00:12:08.000 So for what you say...
00:12:09.000 Got one sitting next to you.
00:12:10.000 No, but basically she said that, but when it goes on social media,
00:12:15.000 not in a manosphere, just anywhere else,
00:12:16.000 they're going to call her pick me a pick me show. 1.00
00:12:18.000 No, exactly.
00:12:19.000 But again, that's the same loud, hurt women that are saying, 1.00
00:12:22.000 you're a pick me because you're actually talking sense.
00:12:25.000 But if there's a hundred pick me's, they won't even...
00:12:27.000 I think if there's five, yeah girl, I'm with you.
00:12:29.000 And maybe like five and that's how mad it is.
00:12:31.000 We need more of them just to stand up.
00:12:34.000 But so I'll get women in my DMs and they'll be supporting what we're doing. 1.00
00:12:38.000 And they'll be like, yeah, I see you on Pearl's show, they'll come up to me.
00:12:40.000 But where are they in the comments when the girls are trying to call us misogynists 0.98
00:12:44.000 and all these types of things?
00:12:45.000 Only for literally speaking in a way that men haven't spoken before,
00:12:48.000 because men lie.
00:12:49.000 So when you get men that actually are honest to you,
00:12:51.000 that's why I say women love liars and cheaters, 1.00
00:12:53.000 because they don't want men that actually tell them the truth.
00:12:56.000 Because when men do, they label all man as a thing.
00:12:58.000 They want cheaters because they always go for the top 20% of men 1.00
00:13:01.000 and the men that have access to more women.
00:13:03.000 They want polygamy relationships because not... 1.00
00:13:06.000 Because they will have a baby with a guy that's already had a baby with another woman. 1.00
00:13:09.000 You are sharing the man once you do that.
00:13:10.000 In their mind, they may think, oh, you know what?
00:13:12.000 He's not with her no more.
00:13:13.000 But if you give a man...
00:13:14.000 If you allow a man to have a baby with another woman, 0.99
00:13:16.000 then come and have a baby with you afterwards,
00:13:18.000 then you're actually allowing him to have the best of both things.
00:13:21.000 You know what I mean? So yeah, I just think...
00:13:23.000 And violent felons have more children than non-violent felons.
00:13:27.000 Yeah.
00:13:28.000 And I said this before, like, and I thought about it,
00:13:31.000 and I know one of my friends, like, you know,
00:13:33.000 it was a good old friend, I don't know how to speak about his name,
00:13:35.000 but just, he's literally what she's talking about.
00:13:37.000 He would be the most red flag you could think of, but for some reason...
00:13:40.000 Bare gal. 0.99
00:13:41.000 Bare!
00:13:42.000 Like, you know, even girl with blue tick moving mad,
00:13:45.000 you're like, you're supposed to have some type of...
00:13:47.000 Nah, it's just, I just, that thing when they say,
00:13:49.000 digmatise, I think it's real, you know?
00:13:51.000 Do you think that the quality of women drops when it comes to these types of guys,
00:13:55.000 or do you think it's still top tier?
00:13:56.000 No, it's still...
00:13:57.000 Nah, I wish I could say...
00:13:58.000 I think it's a mentality thing.
00:14:00.000 Yeah?
00:14:01.000 It's just how they're wired in everything.
00:14:02.000 I wish I could say it was, like, dead gal. 1.00
00:14:03.000 Nah, it's not even...
00:14:04.000 It's not high quality.
00:14:05.000 It's not high quality.
00:14:06.000 That's why it even makes you...
00:14:07.000 You know what?
00:14:08.000 Sometimes I think, it's like, if I see your baby father,
00:14:11.000 and I had high, high levels for you, and then I see your baby father,
00:14:14.000 it's like, ah, is that...
00:14:15.000 All of a sudden, it kind of drops, and you've always said that.
00:14:17.000 You kind of, you can't get pretty much higher than your baby father.
00:14:19.000 So you see a stunning woman, or whatever,
00:14:21.000 and then you see the guy that she's given the highest honour to,
00:14:24.000 and you just...
00:14:25.000 You was feeling a little bit like maybe she was out of your league.
00:14:27.000 Disappointed.
00:14:28.000 And then you see that, and you're like, uh, like...
00:14:30.000 Well, it's kind of like...
00:14:31.000 So, I mean, what's the stereotype?
00:14:33.000 Stereotypes exist for a reason, right?
00:14:36.000 And young women are, like, the most valuable to men, right?
00:14:40.000 In general, throughout all of time.
00:14:42.000 And young women date who?
00:14:44.000 Bad boys.
00:14:45.000 So, at the peak of our youth infertility,
00:14:48.000 we tend to waste it on bad boys.
00:14:51.000 Yeah.
00:14:52.000 And...
00:14:53.000 But you know the bad boy thing?
00:14:54.000 Do you notice that women stop going for bad boys as they get older,
00:14:57.000 or do you think it's still in them?
00:14:58.000 No.
00:14:59.000 I think that women just can't... 1.00
00:15:02.000 either can't get the bad boys they used to get,
00:15:04.000 and so, in their head, they settle.
00:15:06.000 That's actually probably more to the point.
00:15:08.000 They're like, oh, I grew out of it, but I just...
00:15:11.000 Failure to be honest with themselves.
00:15:14.000 What?
00:15:15.000 They just fail to be honest with themselves
00:15:16.000 and say, I can't get that guy anymore.
00:15:17.000 Yeah, or they can't get him to commit.
00:15:19.000 Like, that's what I see more.
00:15:20.000 It's like, they want the bad boy, but they can't lock him down.
00:15:23.000 Like, no one can, right?
00:15:24.000 Yeah.
00:15:25.000 So, it's like, they can't lock him down.
00:15:26.000 And so, then, this is...
00:15:28.000 It's interesting to hear it from, like, the men's point of view,
00:15:30.000 because, like, to women, this is more of, like, new information, 1.00
00:15:33.000 but to men, they're like, yeah, we've been new this.
00:15:35.000 But do you think that men also like bad girls?
00:15:38.000 Do you think nice girls get finished last as well? 1.00
00:15:40.000 Because I always hear guys go...
00:15:42.000 lots of talk about how women like bad guys, 0.88
00:15:45.000 but I see lots of nice women being ran through as well, 0.99
00:15:48.000 like, just ignored or just in the back burner
00:15:51.000 while he kind of does his thing with lots of other women. 0.70
00:15:54.000 She's probably just not hard enough.
00:15:55.000 Yeah, maybe.
00:15:56.000 And I wouldn't even say that as well.
00:15:58.000 Do you think nice girls finish last as well? 1.00
00:16:00.000 Yeah, well, are you a really nice girl if you're going for the bad boy
00:16:03.000 that wants the top 20?
00:16:04.000 And this is that thing again.
00:16:05.000 So, you can, as a nice girl, you're a nice girl,
00:16:07.000 but you're making bad decisions.
00:16:08.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:16:09.000 So, you're still chasing after the girl,
00:16:11.000 sorry, the guy that which all the bad girls want as well. 0.93
00:16:14.000 So, if you're a nice girl, you put yourself in that market,
00:16:17.000 then you just become a number one of many.
00:16:19.000 Yeah.
00:16:20.000 A real nice girl will say, you know what? 1.00
00:16:21.000 I like him, and maybe for one night,
00:16:24.000 but reality for long term, no, he's not going to...
00:16:26.000 Many girls have to make the decision. 1.00
00:16:28.000 They have to pick between...
00:16:29.000 Yeah, they wouldn't connect.
00:16:30.000 A nice girl and that bad guy wouldn't connect. 0.90
00:16:32.000 They have to pick between the sure thing versus the,
00:16:34.000 you know what I mean?
00:16:35.000 He's going to get my door kicked off by the police guy.
00:16:37.000 And it's like, when you make that decision,
00:16:40.000 we actually judge you differently because, yes,
00:16:42.000 you could have carried on looking at the sky's the limit
00:16:44.000 and the hypergamy thing, but you said, no,
00:16:46.000 I'm going to cut off here.
00:16:48.000 And this is the thing which women can't do. 1.00
00:16:49.000 They don't know when to actually say, you know what?
00:16:52.000 It's time for me to cash out.
00:16:53.000 Yeah.
00:16:54.000 Do you know what it is as well though?
00:16:55.000 Like the problem is a lot of women don't actually know 0.99
00:16:58.000 when a man's lying.
00:16:59.000 So you get these good girls that will think 1.00
00:17:01.000 that they've found a good guy.
00:17:03.000 He's actually a bad guy in disguise.
00:17:05.000 That's true.
00:17:06.000 And he's just playing the act.
00:17:07.000 And a lot of these girls, 1.00
00:17:09.000 some girls are very naive though. 0.91
00:17:11.000 Some girls are very naive.
00:17:12.000 I think, okay.
00:17:13.000 I think a lot of girls don't actually understand men enough. 0.89
00:17:15.000 I think, okay, okay, okay.
00:17:17.000 That can happen to you once.
00:17:18.000 You can get bamboozled once.
00:17:20.000 But what, is her body count one?
00:17:22.000 This girl that got bamboozled? 0.98
00:17:26.000 I do think that women... 1.00
00:17:28.000 Stop it.
00:17:30.000 I think if women don't have many male friends 1.00
00:17:32.000 and all their friends are girls,
00:17:34.000 they tend to be more naive about what male behavior looks like.
00:17:37.000 So the ones that don't have many male friends,
00:17:39.000 they don't really get how men move.
00:17:41.000 Whereas if you have a lot of men around you,
00:17:43.000 you learn some of the tricks of the trade.
00:17:45.000 So I do think sometimes they can be more naive,
00:17:47.000 especially if they're asking other girls.
00:17:48.000 Once.
00:17:49.000 Once.
00:17:50.000 I mean, maybe.
00:17:51.000 I'll give you one time.
00:17:52.000 But it's like, okay.
00:17:54.000 He did it.
00:17:55.000 He did it.
00:17:56.000 He did it.
00:17:57.000 He did it.
00:17:58.000 And you're still naive.
00:17:59.000 That don't make sense to me.
00:18:00.000 Like, I just, like, for me,
00:18:02.000 everyone's allowed one, even two.
00:18:04.000 Like, you know what I mean?
00:18:05.000 We'll give them two.
00:18:06.000 Shall we give them two?
00:18:07.000 We'll give them two.
00:18:08.000 The only reason I'm giving you two is because, like,
00:18:10.000 they'd be telling me I need to get a little bit better
00:18:12.000 with trying to, like, I don't know.
00:18:14.000 I don't know.
00:18:15.000 I'm listening to people.
00:18:16.000 So I'm going to give you two,
00:18:17.000 just because people say, oh, real life stuff happens.
00:18:19.000 And, okay, so I want to be a real life person.
00:18:21.000 We'll give you two.
00:18:22.000 But how many times do you get to keep making the same mistake
00:18:26.000 or doing the same offence, getting arrested for it?
00:18:29.000 I think you're underestimating, like, the level of game some guys have.
00:18:32.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:18:33.000 Like, a lot of guys are, like, slick with it.
00:18:35.000 I know.
00:18:36.000 But if there's 10 guys, how many have game, would you say, out of 10?
00:18:40.000 Two.
00:18:41.000 All right.
00:18:42.000 But if it's a stereotypical bad boy, then.
00:18:44.000 Okay.
00:18:45.000 So let's two.
00:18:46.000 She could have picked the eight nice guys, good guys.
00:18:48.000 And she picks the guy with game. 0.84
00:18:50.000 And that's the stereotypical bad boy.
00:18:52.000 I just don't feel bad.
00:18:54.000 Like, you had all eight.
00:18:56.000 Purely from experience from, like, echo chambers, this, that, and the other.
00:18:59.000 Yeah.
00:19:00.000 From what I've seen is that the guys that are smooth-talking,
00:19:03.000 have got game, that are players.
00:19:05.000 Mm-hmm.
00:19:06.000 They'll have good girls, bad girls, bad bees, this, that, and the other. 0.98
00:19:09.000 But, like, the good girls fall for the same lies.
00:19:12.000 Like, the bad bees, like, fall for.
00:19:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:15.000 They all fall for the same lies.
00:19:16.000 And they don't have a clue what's going on.
00:19:18.000 They're genuinely clueless.
00:19:19.000 And they'll be crying to their friends, saying, like, I can't believe we did this.
00:19:23.000 Because they genuinely don't know.
00:19:25.000 I used to kind of think like you.
00:19:29.000 But you're switched on, though, a lot.
00:19:31.000 I think you get.
00:19:32.000 No, no, it's not, though.
00:19:34.000 Like, it's not even that I'm switched on.
00:19:36.000 It's just, like, I've just heard girl after girl after girl come on my show.
00:19:40.000 And, like, I got cheated on by him, him, and him.
00:19:42.000 And it's, like, how many times were you bamboozled?
00:19:44.000 This is it, though.
00:19:45.000 Yeah, but, bro, you know what it is, yeah.
00:19:47.000 I can't.
00:19:48.000 And it's, like, you must have liked something about the toxic relationship
00:19:50.000 because you're still talking about them three years later.
00:19:53.000 So it's something with you that you're attracted to him.
00:19:55.000 Like, I just don't buy it.
00:19:56.000 Like, one of the things that I hate and one of the things we're suffering with
00:19:59.000 is all this women with trauma.
00:20:00.000 But, like, we cannot remove accountability.
00:20:03.000 And you're removing a woman's accountability. 1.00
00:20:04.000 Unless it was great, we have to say that this woman said yes.
00:20:08.000 She laid down, she opened her legs, and she let these bad boys come into her.
00:20:11.000 And this is one of the things that I keep saying is because if we don't,
00:20:14.000 what are we saying?
00:20:15.000 Oh, man had game and man had bars.
00:20:17.000 Yes, man had bars, man had game, but she didn't have to fall for it.
00:20:20.000 So, end of the day is if you go and breed out some girl and she's some Bedina 1.00
00:20:25.000 and she's, like, you know, she's, like, she's just a walking red flag
00:20:28.000 and then you start crying later, no one's going to feel sorry for you, bro.
00:20:31.000 Like, literally, because you didn't do your due diligence, yeah?
00:20:34.000 So, a lot of men do this.
00:20:36.000 They go and have babies with women. 0.99
00:20:37.000 They shouldn't have babies with women. 1.00
00:20:38.000 They start talking about my baby mother drama.
00:20:40.000 I would have never even gone there in the first place, but you did for any reason.
00:20:43.000 And now you've got problems.
00:20:44.000 The same way with these women.
00:20:45.000 If you're a good girl, you know a bad boy.
00:20:47.000 All the things inside your body tell you, but because he's the top 20%,
00:20:51.000 he's good looking, he's got whatever he's got, you want him.
00:20:53.000 Then it goes bad because he's a Chad or Tyrone,
00:20:55.000 and he does exactly what Chad and Tyrones do.
00:20:57.000 And then you want to cry blue murder.
00:20:59.000 Then you meet us in your 30s, and now you've got a lot of trauma
00:21:01.000 you're talking about my mistrust for guys.
00:21:03.000 None of this mistrust came from me.
00:21:05.000 Why am I paying for you deciding to get run through in your 20s by some guys
00:21:09.000 you shouldn't ever be in the first place?
00:21:10.000 I hear that.
00:21:11.000 And obviously, them kind of women in their 30s, 0.82
00:21:13.000 that you've got to stay clear of the ones with the mad trauma.
00:21:15.000 It's all of them, bro.
00:21:17.000 It's not all of them, bro.
00:21:19.000 The thing is, it's not all.
00:21:20.000 80%.
00:21:21.000 That's what we're dealing with.
00:21:22.000 If you meet 10 girls, eight of them are suffering from mad trauma.
00:21:25.000 I hear that, I hear that, yeah.
00:21:26.000 That is probably true.
00:21:27.000 That's what I'm saying, but it's not all.
00:21:29.000 It's not all, but...
00:21:30.000 If you can maneuver through the haystack.
00:21:32.000 Okay, but if it's 80%, that's still a lot.
00:21:35.000 That's a lot.
00:21:36.000 That's most.
00:21:37.000 That's like every girl I meet, trauma.
00:21:40.000 I mean, honestly, I think even earlier than that,
00:21:43.000 I think by 25, most girls have had their heart broke once.
00:21:46.000 I think by 25.
00:21:48.000 Yeah, I was giving them...
00:21:49.000 Basically, what I'm saying is, right, yeah.
00:21:51.000 Okay, and another reason why women get their heart broken early 1.00
00:21:55.000 is because they go for these bad boys, right?
00:21:58.000 And if you're in your 20s and you haven't, you know,
00:22:01.000 the world hasn't hit you hard yet.
00:22:03.000 And a lot of the times, they'll date the older guys.
00:22:05.000 Now, there's good guys, older guys which you can date
00:22:07.000 and they're not going to ruin your heart.
00:22:08.000 Or there's these older guys that are going to show you about something.
00:22:11.000 And then once it all starts to happen, the trauma starts to happen.
00:22:14.000 So all I'm saying to women is, whenever we speak to women, 0.99
00:22:16.000 men will lie.
00:22:17.000 Like, initially, it was supposed to be your father or your brother
00:22:20.000 that was going to vet these men that will come into your life.
00:22:22.000 Now, with the absence of fathers in the home
00:22:26.000 and women not having the same relationship with their brothers,
00:22:29.000 there's no one really spitting this game to them.
00:22:31.000 So when you hear it from a man and you're in your 20s and your 30s,
00:22:34.000 it sounds like we're trying to stop you from doing certain things.
00:22:37.000 We're just saying, nah, like, you should have been told this.
00:22:39.000 I agree with you, to be honest, that the way I see it is that
00:22:43.000 I just think a lot of women don't actually understand the men enough. 0.98
00:22:47.000 Do you know what I mean? They don't actually fully understand men.
00:22:50.000 So that's why they end up falling into the same traps over and over again.
00:22:53.000 But we have to tell them.
00:22:54.000 Do you guys think modern women need men? 0.99
00:22:56.000 Hell yeah.
00:22:57.000 Everybody. Everybody.
00:22:58.000 100%.
00:22:59.000 Yeah.
00:23:00.000 No, everybody. Men need women. Women need men. 1.00
00:23:02.000 It's how human beings are designed.
00:23:04.000 We're designed to complement each other.
00:23:06.000 And I think just as...
00:23:07.000 I don't think men need women. 1.00
00:23:08.000 You don't think so?
00:23:09.000 Mm-mm.
00:23:10.000 Why not?
00:23:11.000 Because they would survive without us.
00:23:12.000 We wouldn't survive without them.
00:23:13.000 They run the infrastructure of society.
00:23:15.000 They do all the hard jobs.
00:23:17.000 If we disappeared tomorrow, outside of reproduction, they would keep living.
00:23:22.000 Single men are more likely to commit suicide.
00:23:24.000 Single men are more likely to have mental health problems.
00:23:26.000 Single men are more likely to die with depression.
00:23:28.000 There is biological needs for men and women.
00:23:32.000 They need each other.
00:23:33.000 That's how we're designed.
00:23:34.000 The majority of men haven't reproduced historically.
00:23:37.000 As in, like, haven't had kids?
00:23:39.000 Mm-hmm.
00:23:40.000 What do you mean by that?
00:23:41.000 Only 40% of men have reproduced historically.
00:23:43.000 And they're the ones that have survived.
00:23:44.000 So, I know I said outside of reproduction.
00:23:46.000 Yeah.
00:23:47.000 So, the whole point is the...
00:23:49.000 Like, I understand that men would prefer to have a partner.
00:23:52.000 Yeah.
00:23:53.000 But the whole point is society would keep on going on if women disappeared tomorrow. 0.99
00:23:57.000 It wouldn't be the same for men.
00:23:59.000 I think it depends on how you define survival.
00:24:03.000 If it's based on, yeah, just getting things done, absolutely.
00:24:06.000 But if it's based on having emotional kind of security, I don't think anybody can...
00:24:11.000 I don't think any human can literally live a happy life if they don't have a connection
00:24:16.000 with the opposites or somebody that they love with.
00:24:18.000 Yeah, but I think that's a female point of view. 1.00
00:24:20.000 Like, because there's a whole group of men that are walking away from relationships.
00:24:24.000 It's called MGTOW.
00:24:25.000 Yeah.
00:24:26.000 And a lot of the, like...
00:24:27.000 What?
00:24:28.000 What?
00:24:29.000 Say that again. 0.71
00:24:30.000 What?
00:24:31.000 The ones that are like red pill.
00:24:32.000 No, no, no.
00:24:33.000 Red pill is a different sector.
00:24:34.000 Men is men going their own way.
00:24:35.000 They're walking away from relationships because they just don't think women bring much to the 1.00
00:24:38.000 table anymore.
00:24:39.000 Is it that women don't bring much or they can't get the woman that they want? 1.00
00:24:43.000 What percent of women are virgins in 22 and want to get married in traditional nowadays? 0.97
00:24:47.000 But not all men want that.
00:24:48.000 I think that's great, but I don't think all men need that. 0.95
00:24:51.000 I mean, historically, that is always what men have wanted.
00:24:54.000 Yeah, I get that.
00:24:55.000 But I don't think now that's the essential criteria of what you want and what you need.
00:25:00.000 What you need is you do need companionship.
00:25:02.000 Men don't have an outlet. 1.00
00:25:04.000 They can't talk to their friends about things.
00:25:06.000 They can't talk to anybody about their emotions when they have a woman. 1.00
00:25:08.000 Do you guys feel like you can talk to your friends?
00:25:10.000 What's better, talking to your friends or talking to your woman about your emotions? 1.00
00:25:13.000 I'm going to just say this and I want to just look to the camera and say,
00:25:17.000 guys, do not talk to your girlfriend about your emotions.
00:25:19.000 Why do guys say this?
00:25:21.000 I feel like that's a lot of red pill talk.
00:25:24.000 No, I mean, seriously, if you want to keep her...
00:25:25.000 I'd have to disagree, bro.
00:25:27.000 I think when you find a real one, then you can talk to her about anything.
00:25:31.000 So there's some things that men are supposed to be in women's eyes 1.00
00:25:34.000 and there's some things that are never supposed to see.
00:25:35.000 And your woman's not supposed to see you cry. 1.00
00:25:37.000 I don't care if your family passed away.
00:25:38.000 You're not supposed to cry.
00:25:39.000 And it's not because you're not emotional.
00:25:41.000 You come and cry to me.
00:25:42.000 Come and cry to your boy.
00:25:43.000 Come and cry to your sister.
00:25:44.000 You do not cry to your woman.
00:25:45.000 There's sometimes like...
00:25:47.000 Women... 1.00
00:25:48.000 It's not they fought.
00:25:49.000 They're just like hypergamous inside their body. 0.99
00:25:51.000 It's not they fought.
00:25:52.000 When she... 0.99
00:25:53.000 You know that thing when women say, I get the ick. 1.00
00:25:54.000 They won't even understand why they do it.
00:25:55.000 But seeing you crying with the snot down, your face dripping...
00:25:58.000 Have you seen your face when you cry?
00:26:00.000 There's studies that have confirmed this too.
00:26:04.000 But there's a difference.
00:26:05.000 Women lose respect for men after they see them cry. 1.00
00:26:07.000 Trust me.
00:26:08.000 I think once you find a real one though, like a proper ride or die, then it don't matter.
00:26:13.000 You won't know she's a ride or die until you cry.
00:26:15.000 Are you willing to risk it?
00:26:17.000 I've cried in front of my girl.
00:26:18.000 Yeah.
00:26:19.000 Yeah.
00:26:20.000 I just know that what she requires for me is not seeing me cry.
00:26:23.000 And no woman requires that. 0.93
00:26:24.000 My mum doesn't require seeing me her son cry.
00:26:27.000 Like it's not...
00:26:28.000 It doesn't mean men cannot cry. 1.00
00:26:29.000 Like I'm saying cry to your friend.
00:26:31.000 Go and speak to your boy about it.
00:26:32.000 I'm not saying to you not to speak to your boy.
00:26:33.000 I wouldn't cry with my boys.
00:26:35.000 Okay.
00:26:36.000 But how often do you cry in front of your girl?
00:26:38.000 Oh, that means like very rarely.
00:26:40.000 How often?
00:26:41.000 How long have you been together?
00:26:42.000 Coming up to a year.
00:26:43.000 Okay.
00:26:44.000 So in a year how...
00:26:45.000 Once.
00:26:46.000 Already?
00:26:47.000 What happened?
00:26:48.000 What happened?
00:26:49.000 Pandemic.
00:26:50.000 What happened?
00:26:51.000 Family bereavement.
00:26:52.000 Okay.
00:26:53.000 Sorry.
00:26:54.000 And that's what I was saying.
00:26:57.000 Like even that in itself.
00:26:59.000 I was like not even a family bereavement just...
00:27:01.000 And I want to say it to men because women don't understand why they do a lot of the things that they do. 1.00
00:27:05.000 No, but I think there's a difference between being vulnerable and being emotional.
00:27:08.000 We hate emotional.
00:27:09.000 Emotional just means you're overreacting emotionally to a situation that you're now removing logic.
00:27:14.000 So if a guy gets really emotional, like I've been in a situation where a guy gets so emotional
00:27:19.000 about maybe something on social media, whatever it is, he loses his masculinity.
00:27:23.000 He's overreacting.
00:27:24.000 That's a disproportionate response.
00:27:26.000 But vulnerability is opening up and that leads to connection.
00:27:29.000 Okay, but the question is at what point?
00:27:32.000 So at what point is crying too much?
00:27:35.000 It's just when it's disproportionate to the situation.
00:27:38.000 If you're crying because...
00:27:39.000 How does he know what's disproportionate?
00:27:41.000 He doesn't, we do.
00:27:42.000 Exactly.
00:27:43.000 Exactly.
00:27:44.000 We do.
00:27:45.000 No, no, but this is...
00:27:46.000 And it's based off of how we feel.
00:27:48.000 About masculinity.
00:27:49.000 No, but at what point?
00:27:50.000 And that's the thing.
00:27:51.000 Like it's confusing to men because every woman's different based on how she feels.
00:27:56.000 And also it's at what point is it too much?
00:28:00.000 I think there's objective measures of what would be too much.
00:28:03.000 Like if it's a family of bereavement, I think most women would understand.
00:28:06.000 But if it's like, you know, your cat's upset and then you get a lot upset...
00:28:09.000 What if he's just really stressed out at work?
00:28:12.000 It's a disproportionate response to cry over stress at work.
00:28:16.000 That would be disproportionate.
00:28:17.000 See, men, this is why I said do not cry.
00:28:19.000 About what?
00:28:20.000 Yeah, what's crying for?
00:28:22.000 No, because...
00:28:23.000 It's context.
00:28:24.000 No, because crying already, work can make you cry.
00:28:27.000 Like you can...
00:28:28.000 I'm sure you've had very stressful days and...
00:28:29.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:28:31.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:28:32.000 You lost your...
00:28:33.000 You know what I mean?
00:28:34.000 Like, so once you tell me I can cry, you don't get to tell me what I can cry about.
00:28:37.000 Like, so I come to you and I'm like, look...
00:28:39.000 It's not something we tell you.
00:28:40.000 It's just your masculine energy will dictate what makes you cry. 0.92
00:28:43.000 You should figure it out yourself.
00:28:45.000 But it doesn't dictate to you...
00:28:46.000 Your level of masculinity will dictate that. 0.89
00:28:48.000 Yeah, but it doesn't dictate to you what gives you the ick.
00:28:50.000 So this is what I'm trying to say to you.
00:28:52.000 Yeah, I may feel like I can cry because I've lost my channel.
00:28:56.000 And I put lots of work into building something.
00:28:58.000 Yeah.
00:28:59.000 And there's an empire and now it's lost.
00:29:00.000 And you don't understand how that makes me feel.
00:29:02.000 And it's really doing something to me.
00:29:03.000 Yeah.
00:29:04.000 And you're like, it's just YouTube.
00:29:05.000 What are you worrying about?
00:29:06.000 It's Instagram.
00:29:07.000 But you don't know what I've built.
00:29:08.000 So I start crying over this because I was looking at the...
00:29:10.000 I was looking at the media company and the empire I was going to build and the network.
00:29:13.000 And you're just looking at me like, get over it, right?
00:29:15.000 If she gets the ick over that and...
00:29:18.000 As many of you know, I was just banned on TikTok.
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