JustPearlyThings - July 16, 2023


Feminist AGREES With This Fact


Episode Stats

Length

9 minutes

Words per Minute

213.18196

Word Count

2,028

Sentence Count

184

Misogynist Sentences

23

Hate Speech Sentences

19


Summary

In this episode, we discuss why men should go their own way and why women should stay in their marriages. We discuss the benefits of being single, the dangers of being in a monogamous relationship, and how to deal with divorce.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Men's attractiveness often increases with age because they tend to make more money as they age and often have larger bank accounts and savings.
00:00:07.320 While generally women's earnings potential withers with their looks, especially if they've had children.
00:00:12.340 The age of 30 is roughly where male and female values intersect and then go in the opposite direction.
00:00:18.420 If a man doesn't get married by the age of 35 or 40, then there's only roughly a 12% chance that he's going to get married from that point forward.
00:00:25.940 Another reason men should go their own way is because of shit tests.
00:00:29.180 Women often test men's ability to be providers and tolerate their horrible behavior.
00:00:34.820 The idea is to turn a man into an obedient broken shell of his former self that walks around saying,
00:00:40.340 Yes dear, all of the time.
00:00:42.240 His spirit has to be broken in many cases so his resources become more easily extracted and he is more malleable.
00:00:48.600 He becomes silly putty in her hands.
00:00:51.060 A woman asking a man to do something over the top is not her being loving or showing love.
00:00:55.720 But instead she's testing him to see if he can be manipulated.
00:00:59.180 And the ironic thing is that women want to manipulate men, but when the manipulation works, they tend to lose interest.
00:01:05.940 Do you think that's true?
00:01:06.980 Yes, a hundred percent.
00:01:10.800 I feel like you have to have that masculine polarity.
00:01:12.800 You're honest.
00:01:13.440 I like that. You're honest.
00:01:13.900 Yeah, like I do feel like you have to have that masculine polarity.
00:01:16.920 They have to be dominant.
00:01:17.700 They have to be in control, stoic.
00:01:20.180 Otherwise you do lose attraction.
00:01:21.660 One hundred percent.
00:01:22.500 And I can't I can't speak for all women.
00:01:24.240 But for me, I feel like I'm very much in my feminine.
00:01:26.980 So I need that masculine polarity.
00:01:29.120 Do you think that women constantly test men's masculinity?
00:01:34.140 Yes, definitely.
00:01:36.020 It's not even conscious, I don't think.
00:01:37.780 No, no.
00:01:38.720 It's like biological, isn't it?
00:01:41.580 Yeah, I don't know.
00:01:42.960 But you want to let you want it.
00:01:44.200 You want to be able to test them to make sure that they're the best option.
00:01:47.020 Do you think that most men lead relationships or most women lead relationships?
00:01:51.880 Like in general?
00:01:52.800 In general.
00:01:53.280 Yeah, probably, probably women most of the time.
00:01:57.020 I'll tell you why I think that is.
00:01:58.700 So if me and you, let's just say we're going to sign a deal.
00:02:01.780 Yeah.
00:02:02.160 And I get paid to leave this deal.
00:02:05.580 Yeah.
00:02:06.020 And you lose everything.
00:02:07.860 Your kids, your house, your money.
00:02:10.560 You're always going to be trying to make me happy.
00:02:12.520 Yeah.
00:02:13.060 So I think the government, the way they've set up marriage has ruined relationships
00:02:17.160 because it puts us at such an advantage over men.
00:02:21.140 Yeah.
00:02:21.460 That unless he's the top guy and we feel like we cannot replace him, we're paid to leave.
00:02:26.600 And I think even a good woman on her worst day with the government paying her to do something bad
00:02:33.520 and all of these options is just going to say, eh, I'm not feeling it anymore.
00:02:40.480 Yeah.
00:02:40.760 Like, honestly, I never, ever thought of it in that way.
00:02:43.300 Like, I always thought of marriage as like this magical thing, like being with husband,
00:02:46.820 my person forever.
00:02:47.700 And I just can't believe that, I can't believe that it is like set up by the government in
00:02:54.120 this way, like it would seem from what you're saying.
00:02:57.440 So this is why I don't think MGTOW is incels.
00:03:00.860 Yeah.
00:03:01.340 I think it's men that were shocked because they married a chick.
00:03:05.720 They didn't know she was in love with her ex, like we talked about, right?
00:03:10.140 And he got the kids, did everything for her.
00:03:13.620 Yeah.
00:03:13.880 Just did everything to make her happy.
00:03:15.660 She's never happy because that means she's leading the relationship, right?
00:03:19.720 Yeah.
00:03:19.900 And then he's completely shocked because he never thought in a million years she would
00:03:27.180 ruin his life.
00:03:27.760 Maybe I'm a MGTOW because I'm shocked right now hearing all of this.
00:03:31.200 Yes.
00:03:31.740 Yes.
00:03:32.460 Yes.
00:03:32.940 And I'll give you an example.
00:03:34.340 So one way the laws, they might not specifically say gender, but the way that it's set up,
00:03:39.600 if a man, okay, basically a lot of times in the US, I don't know if this part's the same
00:03:44.880 here, but in the US, the person that spent the most time with the kids is awarded custody.
00:03:50.240 Right.
00:03:50.700 Now on paper, that sounds right.
00:03:52.840 Yeah.
00:03:53.360 However, what if the man spent the most time with the kids?
00:03:56.960 Then would he still be awarded the custody?
00:03:58.380 Well, they say, why aren't you providing for your family like you're supposed to?
00:04:02.000 Really?
00:04:02.740 So, yes.
00:04:03.880 What, they actually say that?
00:04:05.340 Yes.
00:04:05.940 Yes.
00:04:06.580 In court, yes.
00:04:07.680 Well, that seems very unfair.
00:04:09.320 And that's the problem.
00:04:11.300 We want men to protect and provide, right?
00:04:13.820 Yeah.
00:04:13.980 Yet, in divorce court, they're punished for it.
00:04:16.440 Because if they do the right thing and provide for their family-
00:04:19.380 Then they're spending less time with the kids.
00:04:21.760 And you see how it's like the men are like, what are we supposed to do?
00:04:24.720 But the lawyers certainly will spin it in court if he spent the most time with the kids.
00:04:30.240 I mean, come on.
00:04:31.060 Like, we're all going to kind of look at him like a loser a bit.
00:04:33.920 You would.
00:04:34.580 Even if it's not in law, subconsciously, you're wondering, well, why didn't you work more so
00:04:41.240 she could stay-
00:04:42.040 Right?
00:04:42.280 We're all thinking it.
00:04:43.140 Like, let's just, you know, let's just be honest.
00:04:45.180 So, that's why I say feminists, we cannot be equal.
00:04:48.360 Right.
00:04:48.800 Because we will always be below.
00:04:51.180 Right.
00:04:52.200 But wait, why does that mean that we're below?
00:04:53.980 Why does that mean that we're below?
00:04:54.420 Because we cannot do what men do.
00:04:56.080 We cannot work the hours that men work.
00:04:57.940 Yeah.
00:04:58.020 We cannot build the societies that men build.
00:05:01.280 Yeah.
00:05:01.400 We can, I just don't think we can do what men do.
00:05:04.580 Right.
00:05:05.000 Okay.
00:05:05.260 We can offer value in a different way.
00:05:07.260 Yeah.
00:05:07.560 But the only way we get to offer the most value to society, which I believe is being a wife
00:05:12.020 and a mother.
00:05:12.540 Yeah.
00:05:12.920 Would you agree with that?
00:05:13.640 But I, yeah, I would in some respects.
00:05:17.060 Yeah.
00:05:17.400 So, the only, the only way we can do that is if the men let us.
00:05:22.780 Yeah.
00:05:23.600 Therefore, and the only way we can build a career is if the men let us build a career.
00:05:29.480 Everything we do, we have to ask the men to let us do.
00:05:33.240 We cannot be safe in society without saying, men, please keep us safe.
00:05:37.260 We cannot go to work without saying, men, build these companies so I can climb up the
00:05:41.260 ladder.
00:05:42.080 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:05:42.540 So, by this logic, we cannot be equal because everything we do, we have to say to the men,
00:05:47.440 can we do it?
00:05:48.780 Therefore, they must be above us.
00:05:52.060 It's okay.
00:05:52.800 Take it.
00:05:53.260 Take it in.
00:05:54.240 I couldn't, the reason I came to this conclusion was for months, I couldn't think of one thing
00:05:59.680 that women did better.
00:06:00.760 No, because you are, you are so logical, like that is such a logical point.
00:06:04.860 It's just, it's just really hard for me to wrap my head around because I've just always
00:06:08.360 thought, you know, that we are equal and that we do provide value in different ways.
00:06:12.260 And, you know, even if that maybe isn't the equal value or whatever, I still think that
00:06:17.060 it is just as important as each other.
00:06:19.100 Yes.
00:06:19.360 I think that women are absolutely important.
00:06:21.860 We absolutely need women.
00:06:23.460 But the way we are today, I just don't think offers value as a society.
00:06:27.700 I'm not saying I'm better than anybody.
00:06:29.320 Do you think it's maybe because women haven't had the opportunity to do those kind of jobs
00:06:34.100 or whatever that the men are doing that makes them be superior?
00:06:37.320 Do you think it's because they don't get the same opportunities as men?
00:06:39.700 No, I think we've had plenty, like to the point that governments have grants to get women
00:06:44.080 in engineering.
00:06:44.960 Yeah.
00:06:45.500 But then how many women do you feel like are comfortable going into like a male dominated
00:06:50.140 environment?
00:06:50.760 I actually think, I think it's really mean to push women into these environments.
00:06:54.420 Yeah.
00:06:55.000 I actually think because the government.
00:06:56.180 Because I mean, it's like, you know, you walk past a construction site and get catcalled.
00:06:58.800 How many women are then going to want to go and work on one?
00:07:01.420 No, that's actually not why I think it's mean.
00:07:03.700 I think women, come on, if they stopped catcalling us tomorrow, we'd kind of miss it.
00:07:08.540 You miss male attention a little bit.
00:07:11.860 You miss it.
00:07:12.260 Not from like a disgusting six-year-old man.
00:07:13.780 What if he was hot?
00:07:15.620 Yeah.
00:07:15.980 Ah, see, see, see, see.
00:07:18.900 No, but still, no, I think that's not the way to approach women.
00:07:21.840 Like, I don't agree with that.
00:07:22.540 If Brad Pitt approached you like that, you would not.
00:07:25.140 I wouldn't care.
00:07:26.840 It's all based on if he's a trap.
00:07:28.500 You know it is.
00:07:29.540 I feel like it's the way in which they approach you.
00:07:31.840 Like, if a guy's whistling at you, like, I'm not a dog.
00:07:33.860 Don't approach me like that.
00:07:34.660 I mean, if it's Brad Pitt, I'm like, you know what, I'll say.
00:07:38.620 But, okay, I forgot what we were talking about before that.
00:07:41.820 It was, got me distracted.
00:07:43.280 Sorry, yeah, I've gone on a tangent, haven't I?
00:07:44.780 You were saying women in engineering.
00:07:45.960 Oh, I think it's really mean that feminists push women into these fields and say,
00:07:50.480 you can do anything a man can do.
00:07:52.360 Do you know what?
00:07:52.640 I think that's something that always confused me about me being a feminist because I feel
00:07:56.100 like I've always, like, my mom was a housewife and my dad, like, has his business
00:07:59.740 and work so that she could look after her.
00:08:01.220 She had a career before, but then she gave that up to look after me and my brother,
00:08:04.240 which I am so grateful for, that I had, you know, my mom around all the time.
00:08:07.900 That was amazing.
00:08:08.700 And I've always wanted to do that.
00:08:10.100 You know, when I have children, I would want to be a housewife.
00:08:12.660 I love to cook and clean.
00:08:13.820 Like, I feel like, I don't think I'm a traditional woman at all, but I feel like in some kind
00:08:18.300 of sense, I have quite traditional, like...
00:08:19.700 I can hear it in your voice on the show.
00:08:22.540 Yeah, like, I have quite traditional, like, views about marriage and things like that,
00:08:26.120 I guess.
00:08:26.340 Is it just me, Kig?
00:08:27.320 Like, I can almost hear when women have fathers and their voices.
00:08:30.680 Yeah.
00:08:31.700 Not as much as...
00:08:33.380 Just by the way you guys, like, talk.
00:08:35.660 But I think what feminists will do is say, hey, young girls that are impressionable, right?
00:08:41.860 Because, you know, you can be convinced of anything at, like, 10.
00:08:44.580 Oh, definitely, yeah.
00:08:45.220 So, you tell them, hey, you can do anything a guy can do.
00:08:48.660 Go be an engineer.
00:08:49.900 Here's a grant.
00:08:50.780 We're really pushing women.
00:08:52.240 And then the women go do it, and they hate it.
00:08:54.360 Yeah.
00:08:54.940 I just feel like I wasn't made for that, like, 9 to 5, like, hardworking life, which I'll
00:08:59.100 happily admit, like, maybe I'm lazy.
00:09:00.520 I don't know.
00:09:00.860 I was just made to, you know, have my own business and do my own thing.
00:09:03.760 I'm a lot happier, more comfortable, you know, being at home with my dog and doing that.
00:09:07.560 Then I am going out to work.
00:09:08.940 It gives me such bad anxiety.
00:09:10.240 It makes my mental health terrible.
00:09:11.740 Thank you for admitting.
00:09:13.340 Women do not want to do hard jobs.
00:09:17.160 I don't either.
00:09:18.100 I do not want to do construction.
00:09:20.000 None of that.
00:09:20.460 No, I could never do that.
00:09:21.400 Correct.
00:09:21.820 And so, like, if we're talking to the women and none of us want to do it, is it maybe it's
00:09:25.960 not a patriarchy or an oppression.
00:09:28.940 It's just we don't want to do it.
00:09:30.440 Yeah.