Feminist Gets Annihilated On Piers Morgan
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Summary
A feminist and a traditional housewife go head-to-head on Piers Morgan's latest episode of The View From The Top with Sarah Downey. Sarah is a writer, comedian, and podcaster. She's also a wife, mother, and mother-in-law.
Transcript
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Last night, I went on another episode of Piers Morgan.
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Now, a lot of you thought, a lot of you, I saw your comments,
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Pearl is never going to go back on Piers Morgan after they ambushed me.
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and they had me on with a traditional housewife and a feminist.
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So what do you, do you think that traditional housewives are praised by feminists typically?
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You know, I think that there's this like backwardness where like my wife, for example,
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We live in Germany, and she likes being a housewife.
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I think it's empowering for a woman to be at home,
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Like a real, like a strong woman, a good woman, but I think a lot of these women, they're
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Do you think, I find though that typical like the liberal chicks, I don't think they really
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Like, I don't know, like, who would they want raising their kids?
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Like, I mean, that's what they're doing now, you know?
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But you do see an uptick in people that are homeschooling their kids, which I do think
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But so let's go to Piers Morgan and see what they said.
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How is the feminist movement of the last few decades, how has it gone for you?
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And when you look at it and see how women have progressed, do you think it's been largely
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Or do you think, as the Tradwires did it, perhaps we've lost that sense of gender rules,
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for want of a better phrase, which actually worked very well for many people?
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You know, I saw a study the other day that said only 25% of, I mean, this is an American
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So I guess there's positives and there's negatives, but it's like, at what cost, you
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Like 85, 150 years ago, the average woman had seven kids, 85% of people were married.
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I mean, you know, there's also much higher infant mortality and women died very young
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I mean, women were more depressed than ever before.
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Women over the age of 45 are the least happy demographic.
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There are a lot of very complex reasons for that.
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And the issue you have is women like Emily Ratajkowski.
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You know, marriage, again, I've said this before, marriage isn't marriage anymore.
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We have things like no-fault divorce, leave if you're unhappy.
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What does that mean, marriage isn't marriage anymore?
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Because there have been so many marriages over the course of history where people have
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Either the man or the woman has been very unhappy.
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And they've been forced, basically, to stay in a marriage.
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Why would you spend it with someone who doesn't make you happy?
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I mean, there's a reason we have phrases like a man of his word, right?
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Everyone, there's a balance and a compromise in relationships.
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They're about knowing and understanding yourself.
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Learning to, you know, know and understand another person.
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Eventually, potentially, if you want to, bringing children into the world and teaching them how to do that as well.
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Teaching them to balance a sense of their own identity with the love that they have for another person.
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And, you know, for example, I know an older woman, actually, who's a friend of our family, who got divorced at about 60.
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And she said, I got to a point after I'd stopped being a mother and, you know, I was just kind of getting on.
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And I didn't really feel like I knew who I was anymore because I'd always just been a wife and a mother.
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I would say a modern mentality is me before the family.
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I would say traditionalism is the family before me, especially in women.
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And so what I actually, it's interesting you said 60-year-olds because, you know, I've interviewed 600, 700 people roughly in the past year and a half.
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I've done hundreds of shows interviewing people about relationships.
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And what I find is the 60-year-olds tend to, a lot of those women led their daughters astray.
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You know, there's a reason we're in this mess, right?
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A lot of those women had the wrong mentality when it came to marriage and had exactly the mentality that you're talking about.
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Which is the one to prioritize balancing one's own sense of identity with compromise in a relationship with someone else.
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But that's, again, you know, I think that's an interesting point here, actually.
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And it's really unfortunate because I would say the women of our generation really are suffering because of the advice of the women of the past.
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There's an interesting point here, right, which is that we do live in a very individualistic society.
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And we're all told, actually, I think a lot of the time in our relationships as well, you have to be a certain way if you want to receive love.
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You have to be a certain level of attractiveness.
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Like, what, obviously, you two aren't having a...
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Well, I mean, everyone argues and then just goes home.
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Even the first girl I went on with, Pierce Morgan, like, I say hi to her every time I see her, you know.
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But, you know, it's interesting because I listen carefully to, like, the words that they say.
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And how she was saying, love, I needed to know who I was.
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And, like, she was talking about the 60-year-old woman who divorced her husband because she felt like she lost her sense of self.
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And I just thought to myself, you know, aren't you, isn't your identity supposed to be in your family?
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And I don't know, what I find is those women just kind of listen to feminists for too long and these, like, this me, me, me culture.
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And so, you know, they hit 60 and they think the grass is greener on the other side.
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I don't know what the hell you think is on the other side of a divorce that's 60.
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And then she talked about receiving love and she said you shouldn't have to be a certain way to receive love.
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And I thought this was interesting because men know that they have to be somebody in order to get into a relationship, right?
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Like, in my opinion, the only people that deserve love are children.
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And then after that, it's really the type of person you are and the character you have.
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What do you think about a woman getting divorced at 60 because she needs to figure out who she is?
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It's sad because, you know, being alone when you get old, if you get sick and no one's there, that's horrifying to get sick alone already.
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But imagine being sick and not having someone there with you at the hospital and then coming home empty.
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And as you get older and older and you see other friends that are in their 60s and they have kids, grandkids, kids that love them, you know, you can go out to Instagram pictures all day if you want, right?
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But when you come home, you know, you're alone.
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Well, and the average person lives to be, I think, 77.
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Good God, what do you think's on the other side of that?
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And it's funny, I have an aunt that got married pretty, like, later in life.
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And I'm talking, like, I think she was in her 60s.
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And she married a guy that was, like, 10 years older than her.
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But even he was talking about how at, like, the nursing homes or whatever that he had, like, four women did she pick from and he picked her.