JustPearlyThings - October 11, 2023


Feminist Gets Annihilated On Piers Morgan

Topics
balance in relationships getting old and lonely
Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
Mentioned
Pearl Piers Morgan Emily Ratajkowski
Education and Career DESTROYS Women for Being Good Wives Modern Women REVEALED What They Want from Men in the Dating Market

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9 minutes

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205.23

Word count

1,901

Sentence count

198

Harmful content

Misogyny

23

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Toxicity

3

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11

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A feminist and a traditional housewife go head-to-head on Piers Morgan's latest episode of The View From The Top with Sarah Downey. Sarah is a writer, comedian, and podcaster. She's also a wife, mother, and mother-in-law.

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00:00:00.000 Last night, I went on another episode of Piers Morgan.
00:00:03.680 Now, a lot of you thought, a lot of you, I saw your comments,
00:00:06.220 Pearl will never get invited back.
00:00:08.240 Pearl is never going to go back on Piers Morgan after they ambushed me.
00:00:15.100 But I'm back and I'm better, baby.
00:00:17.620 So I went on Piers Morgan last night,
00:00:20.260 and they had me on with a traditional housewife and a feminist. 1.00
00:00:26.340 Can you imagine how that went?
00:00:28.560 Yeah, yeah.
00:00:29.480 I can already tell how that's going.
00:00:32.280 So what do you, do you think that traditional housewives are praised by feminists typically? 1.00
00:00:39.880 You know, I think that there's this like backwardness where like my wife, for example, 1.00
00:00:46.280 is actually a liberal.
00:00:47.740 She's a college graduate.
00:00:48.660 We live in Germany, and she likes being a housewife.
00:00:51.780 She takes pride in it.
00:00:53.300 I think it's empowering for a woman to be at home,
00:00:56.000 and many women are happy being at home. 1.00
00:00:57.860 It doesn't mean she's not a feminist. 0.99
00:00:59.940 I think you're a great example of a feminist. 1.00
00:01:02.400 Oh, yeah?
00:01:02.940 Of a real feminist. 0.80
00:01:04.120 You know what I mean?
00:01:04.680 Like a real feminist, not a toxic feminist. 1.00
00:01:07.500 Yeah.
00:01:08.000 You know what I mean?
00:01:08.440 Like a real, like a strong woman, a good woman, but I think a lot of these women, they're 1.00
00:01:13.380 out of their mind.
00:01:13.880 Do you think, I find though that typical like the liberal chicks, I don't think they really 1.00
00:01:19.360 celebrate women that stay home with the kids.
00:01:22.280 Like, yeah, I mean, it's a disorder, man.
00:01:26.060 Like, I don't know, like, who would they want raising their kids?
00:01:30.120 The government?
00:01:30.980 The schools?
00:01:31.780 Like, I mean, that's what they're doing now, you know?
00:01:34.060 Yeah.
00:01:34.500 But you do see an uptick in people that are homeschooling their kids, which I do think
00:01:38.600 is encouraging, right?
00:01:39.880 Yeah, me too.
00:01:40.640 But so let's go to Piers Morgan and see what they said.
00:01:45.200 How, I don't know.
00:01:46.480 How is the feminist movement of the last few decades, how has it gone for you?
00:01:51.800 And when you look at it and see how women have progressed, do you think it's been largely
00:01:57.260 a force for good?
00:01:58.460 Or do you think, as the Tradwires did it, perhaps we've lost that sense of gender rules,
00:02:04.340 for want of a better phrase, which actually worked very well for many people?
00:02:06.740 I mean, we've seen families disappear.
00:02:10.040 You know, I saw a study the other day that said only 25% of, I mean, this is an American
00:02:15.000 step, an American household to a family.
00:02:17.160 So I guess there's positives and there's negatives, but it's like, at what cost, you
00:02:21.920 know?
00:02:22.420 What to you?
00:02:22.940 Like 85, 150 years ago, the average woman had seven kids, 85% of people were married.
00:02:28.740 I mean, you know, there's also much higher infant mortality and women died very young
00:02:33.240 and, you know.
00:02:33.940 I mean, women were more depressed than ever before.
00:02:36.280 We're on antidepressants.
00:02:37.900 I mean, there are a lot of...
00:02:39.040 Women over the age of 45 are the least happy demographic. 0.91
00:02:41.740 There are a lot of very complex reasons for that.
00:02:45.160 And the issue you have is women like Emily Ratajkowski. 1.00
00:02:48.340 You know, marriage, again, I've said this before, marriage isn't marriage anymore.
00:02:51.220 The average marriage is seven years.
00:02:52.560 We have things like no-fault divorce, leave if you're unhappy.
00:02:55.500 So if...
00:02:55.880 What does that mean, marriage isn't marriage anymore?
00:02:57.740 Because there have been so many marriages over the course of history where people have
00:03:01.520 been very unhappy.
00:03:02.240 Either the man or the woman has been very unhappy.
00:03:03.740 And they've been forced, basically, to stay in a marriage.
00:03:06.260 It could have been an abusive marriage. 1.00
00:03:07.340 It could have been an openly abusive marriage. 0.98
00:03:08.760 Well, because marriage was about...
00:03:09.160 And that would...
00:03:09.660 You know, we have one life.
00:03:11.040 Why would you spend it with someone who doesn't make you happy?
00:03:12.660 Again, marriage was about duty.
00:03:13.960 And this is the problem we have with women. 1.00
00:03:15.900 Like, women... 1.00
00:03:16.320 Men tend to be better people than us.
00:03:18.700 Yeah, they really do.
00:03:19.700 They tend to...
00:03:20.300 No, no, no.
00:03:21.240 They tend to do the right thing.
00:03:23.420 They don't...
00:03:23.780 They are a monster-mallined species. 0.97
00:03:25.040 I agree.
00:03:25.140 I mean, there's a reason we have phrases like a man of his word, right?
00:03:28.500 Yeah.
00:03:28.700 Not a woman of her word. 1.00
00:03:29.620 I just...
00:03:30.340 Men will actually stick things out.
00:03:32.440 Women, when she gets hard, we just leave. 1.00
00:03:34.340 And you're proving my point.
00:03:36.440 What was your first answer?
00:03:38.960 My happiness, right?
00:03:40.300 Of course.
00:03:40.900 Everyone deserves to be happy.
00:03:42.080 Everyone deserves to be loved.
00:03:43.220 The family doesn't work when it's about you.
00:03:45.340 It's supposed to be about your kids.
00:03:46.800 And that's the problem in modernism.
00:03:48.820 Everyone, there's a balance and a compromise in relationships.
00:03:52.600 Am I allowed to talk now?
00:03:54.600 Okay, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
00:03:55.780 Look, I think relationships are about balance.
00:03:58.180 They're about compromise.
00:03:59.080 They're about knowing and understanding yourself.
00:04:01.040 Learning to, you know, know and understand another person.
00:04:03.240 Eventually, potentially, if you want to, bringing children into the world and teaching them how to do that as well.
00:04:07.480 Teaching them to balance a sense of their own identity with the love that they have for another person.
00:04:12.520 And, you know, for example, I know an older woman, actually, who's a friend of our family, who got divorced at about 60.
00:04:18.240 She had, you know, this lovely family.
00:04:20.120 They were together since they were 18.
00:04:21.320 And she said, I got to a point after I'd stopped being a mother and, you know, I was just kind of getting on.
00:04:25.780 I realized I'd lost my sense of who I was.
00:04:28.640 And I didn't really feel like I knew who I was anymore because I'd always just been a wife and a mother.
00:04:32.880 And I wanted to go out and explore that.
00:04:34.300 And I think that's fantastic.
00:04:35.580 Good for her.
00:04:36.000 What is traditionalism?
00:04:38.020 I don't know what you think traditionalism is.
00:04:40.060 I would say a modern mentality is me before the family.
00:04:43.460 I would say traditionalism is the family before me, especially in women. 0.70
00:04:48.720 You're onto something.
00:04:49.620 And so what I actually, it's interesting you said 60-year-olds because, you know, I've interviewed 600, 700 people roughly in the past year and a half.
00:04:57.120 I've done hundreds of shows interviewing people about relationships.
00:04:59.500 And what I find is the 60-year-olds tend to, a lot of those women led their daughters astray. 0.63
00:05:06.680 You know, there's a reason we're in this mess, right?
00:05:08.820 A lot of those women had the wrong mentality when it came to marriage and had exactly the mentality that you're talking about. 1.00
00:05:14.840 Which is the one to prioritize balancing one's own sense of identity with compromise in a relationship with someone else.
00:05:19.600 No, no, it's myself before the marriage.
00:05:21.020 But that's, again, you know, I think that's an interesting point here, actually.
00:05:22.000 And it's really unfortunate because I would say the women of our generation really are suffering because of the advice of the women of the past.
00:05:28.540 There's an interesting point here, right, which is that we do live in a very individualistic society.
00:05:32.160 And we're all told, actually, I think a lot of the time in our relationships as well, you have to be a certain way if you want to receive love.
00:05:38.580 You have to abide by these norms.
00:05:40.840 You have to be a certain level of attractiveness.
00:05:42.480 You have to earn a certain amount of money.
00:05:44.160 It's all about you.
00:05:45.100 And that's not what love is.
00:05:46.400 So, what did you think of the clip?
00:05:49.080 I think you made some good points.
00:05:50.800 Yeah, I think you made some good points.
00:05:53.060 What did you, what happened after that?
00:05:55.440 Like, what, obviously, you two aren't having a...
00:05:58.540 You aren't best friends, right?
00:06:00.140 Well, I mean, everyone argues and then just goes home.
00:06:03.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:05.120 Especially when you, like, do this a lot.
00:06:06.920 Like, you just kind of, you know.
00:06:08.780 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:09.220 Even the first girl I went on with, Pierce Morgan, like, I say hi to her every time I see her, you know.
00:06:13.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:14.820 But, you know, it's interesting because I listen carefully to, like, the words that they say.
00:06:20.380 Yeah.
00:06:20.780 And how she was saying, love, I needed to know who I was.
00:06:26.340 And, like, she was talking about the 60-year-old woman who divorced her husband because she felt like she lost her sense of self.
00:06:33.160 Yeah.
00:06:33.340 And I just thought to myself, you know, aren't you, isn't your identity supposed to be in your family?
00:06:39.360 Yeah.
00:06:39.620 And I don't know, what I find is those women just kind of listen to feminists for too long and these, like, this me, me, me culture. 1.00
00:06:50.200 And so, you know, they hit 60 and they think the grass is greener on the other side.
00:06:54.360 I don't know what the hell you think is on the other side of a divorce that's 60.
00:06:58.260 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:59.600 Pretty lonely, man.
00:07:00.560 Getting old and lonely is scary.
00:07:02.520 Yeah.
00:07:02.820 And then she talked about receiving love and she said you shouldn't have to be a certain way to receive love.
00:07:11.620 And I thought this was interesting because men know that they have to be somebody in order to get into a relationship, right? 0.75
00:07:18.440 You can't just be a loser and receive love.
00:07:21.580 Like, in my opinion, the only people that deserve love are children. 0.96
00:07:25.540 And then after that, it's really the type of person you are and the character you have.
00:07:29.500 Yeah, yeah.
00:07:31.000 I think you nailed it.
00:07:32.000 Yeah.
00:07:32.480 What do you think about a woman getting divorced at 60 because she needs to figure out who she is? 1.00
00:07:39.220 Does she still have kids at home? 1.00
00:07:41.740 No, I think they're gone.
00:07:44.240 It's sad because, you know, being alone when you get old, if you get sick and no one's there, that's horrifying to get sick alone already.
00:07:54.080 Yeah.
00:07:54.660 But imagine being sick and not having someone there with you at the hospital and then coming home empty.
00:08:01.060 That's really scary, man.
00:08:02.480 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:04.000 I don't think that's hard.
00:08:07.680 Yeah.
00:08:08.620 Yeah, that's what...
00:08:09.680 And that's what...
00:08:10.680 Aging, aging ain't for the weak-hearted, man.
00:08:12.680 Aging is undefeated, you know?
00:08:14.980 And as you get older and older and you see other friends that are in their 60s and they have kids, grandkids, kids that love them, you know, you can go out to Instagram pictures all day if you want, right?
00:08:27.560 But when you come home, you know, you're alone.
00:08:31.760 That's really horrifying.
00:08:33.220 Well, and the average person lives to be, I think, 77.
00:08:36.100 But you could live to be 90, you know?
00:08:39.900 So what does a woman's life look like? 1.00
00:08:41.840 Because women tend to live longer than men. 1.00
00:08:43.480 So what does a woman's life look like? 1.00
00:08:45.420 She gets divorced at 60.
00:08:46.840 What if she lives to be 90?
00:08:49.180 40 years?
00:08:50.100 In your elderly years as a chick? 0.54
00:08:53.120 Yeah.
00:08:54.000 Good God, what do you think's on the other side of that?
00:08:56.380 And it's funny, I have an aunt that got married pretty, like, later in life.
00:09:00.880 And I'm talking, like, I think she was in her 60s.
00:09:03.700 And she married a guy that was, like, 10 years older than her.
00:09:06.560 This is an exception.
00:09:07.420 It's not the rule.
00:09:08.120 But even he was talking about how at, like, the nursing homes or whatever that he had, like, four women did she pick from and he picked her.
00:09:15.400 Oh.