JustPearlyThings - October 17, 2023


Feminist Wants To Start Arguing With Pearl

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Hannah Pearl Davis
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In this episode, we compare and contrast the wives of 200 years ago and today. The difference between a wife today and a wife 100 years ago is pretty striking. Women in the 1800s and 1900s were much more housewifey and involved in the farming and providing for their families. In the 1950s, women were marrying off as virgins. Today, women are marrying off their virgins at a higher rate than they did in the 50s. Why is this the case?

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00:00:00.000 I wanted to talk about the wives before feminism and after feminism. 0.97
00:00:04.520 So I collaborated with Dr. David Baker, shout out.
00:00:08.820 He wrote The History of Sex.
00:00:11.080 And I wanted to compare the wives of yesterday, 0.81
00:00:14.020 like what you would get out of a wife 100 years ago, 200 years ago, 0.93
00:00:19.440 versus what you get out of a wife today. 1.00
00:00:21.880 And I want to, it's, you know, I want to compare and contrast.
00:00:25.900 So one, she would not leave you.
00:00:31.220 So if you married her, it was highly unlikely she would leave.
00:00:35.340 Divorce was extremely difficult to obtain.
00:00:38.280 As opposed to today, if you multiply the divorce rate by the percent the woman leave, 0.99
00:00:43.800 there's a 32 to 41% chance that she's going to leave you.
00:00:49.180 Thank you, feminism. 1.00
00:00:50.760 Two, two, depending on the time period or social class,
00:00:54.700 your wife would help out on the farm, doing hard work beside you,
00:00:59.160 like planting seeds, dealing with livestock, helping out the harvest,
00:01:03.220 and at least she'd be a housewife. 1.00
00:01:04.920 In both scenarios, you'd be dealing with cooking from scratch
00:01:08.680 and putting a lot of work into cleaning and laundry.
00:01:15.020 No domestic technology.
00:01:16.940 So we'll put on this side today, you get like microwave dinner.
00:01:22.700 But it's not all wives as well, because this is a shame. 0.96
00:01:25.980 Like there's plenty of good women. 1.00
00:01:27.520 It's just the problem is that the feminists have kind of made like women look bad. 1.00
00:01:31.520 Well, I would say, this is what I'll say about it.
00:01:36.200 95% of us would be thrown out because one of the prerequisites back then was a virgin.
00:01:42.260 And today only 5%.
00:01:44.260 Yeah, but it's like, who wants, isn't that a bit outdated?
00:01:46.720 Like, I don't think so.
00:01:48.320 I don't think men, I think men would prefer their wife to have only slept with them 0.98
00:01:53.320 as opposed to multiple men.
00:01:55.320 But why is it it should be like that for us?
00:01:57.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:01:57.880 But what about men?
00:01:59.420 Yeah, it's a big double standard.
00:02:00.780 I don't want a man that slept with over 100 ladies. 1.00
00:02:03.080 It's a biological standard.
00:02:04.700 You guys want some stats on this?
00:02:05.920 Well, it's not actually.
00:02:06.440 Because I'll give you guys some statistics.
00:02:10.140 So today it's 4% of women that are marrying as virgins, right? 1.00
00:02:13.080 Here's something really 4%.
00:02:14.560 We're not even at 5%.
00:02:15.520 No, it's 4%.
00:02:16.280 Dang it, guys.
00:02:17.600 Okay, I'll give you guys some interesting stats.
00:02:19.640 And there's like a, let's say a common theme to all of these that kind of converge onto a point.
00:02:25.100 But in the 1950s, the birth control pill comes out, right?
00:02:29.220 We now have obviously fewer women marrying off as virgins than before. 1.00
00:02:32.880 It dropped, like the amount of women that were marrying as virgins in the 50s have dropped to like down to 4%.
00:02:38.380 It wasn't like 80%.
00:02:39.620 Now it's like 4%.
00:02:40.600 85% 100 years ago.
00:02:43.020 What's really interesting is since the 1950s, the percentage of men that are marrying as virgins is actually higher than it was in the 50s.
00:02:49.120 So what happened with the birth control pill is that it basically took out all the, it just streamlined all the sex to the guys that the women wanted to do it with the whole time and without consequence.
00:02:59.700 So that's an interesting outcome.
00:03:00.820 But when you're looking at the marriage statistics, okay, there are two predictors that stand above all else for, three predictors actually, that stand above all else for poor outcome to the marriage.
00:03:12.780 Like an unsuccessful, bad breakup, poor marriage, unhappiness.
00:03:15.900 Number one, getting married before the societal standard age.
00:03:18.760 So if you're married at like 18, you're going to fail, it's going to suck, don't do it.
00:03:21.540 Number two, if a woman brings a child into the relationship, into the marriage, that's not the man's child, is an extremely high predictor for the woman's unhappiness in that marriage. 0.61
00:03:30.820 Not the man's unhappiness, the woman's own unhappiness, which inevitably leads to divorce because what, 80% of marriages are, divorces are initiated by women. 0.98
00:03:38.400 And the third factor, and this is really interesting, the third factor today that's the highest correlated statistically with a poor outcome to the marriage is the woman has more than 10 sexual partners.
00:03:48.020 So what happens is the biggest drop for a woman's unhappiness in the marriage is after the woman has one sexual partner, you see the biggest drop in the happiness and the potential positive outcome in the marriage. 0.92
00:03:56.780 And then like between two and five, it kind of like hovers, you know, where it was at two.
00:04:02.080 And then between like six and nine, it kind of gets a little bit worse, but at 10 or more, the drop is significant and massive.
00:04:09.580 And this is just measuring, you know, longitudinal studies of the happiness and the outcomes of the marriage.
00:04:14.280 But here's what's interesting.
00:04:16.320 Then they did the same study on men, number of sexual partners that a man has, and then correlated that to the outcome of the marriage.
00:04:21.800 No statistical correlation at all.
00:04:23.460 So anything that's the case.
00:04:24.600 Because men don't leave marriages. 0.99
00:04:25.980 Women do. 1.00
00:04:26.420 That's why.
00:04:27.100 So you don't think it's actually because of sex is because women are just more likely to leave.
00:04:31.640 Well, men don't. 0.97
00:04:32.260 So it's like this.
00:04:33.120 If a man said, if he's Genghis Khan level, he's got a thousand partners.
00:04:36.120 It has no statistical difference in the outcome of a marriage of a man's had three partners.
00:04:39.700 It just doesn't like that's just what the statistics say.
00:04:42.660 Interesting.
00:04:43.240 Right.
00:04:43.720 And so women are like, well, why do men get the privilege? 1.00
00:04:45.600 Because biologically, we're different from women. 1.00
00:04:47.540 And I think that's the premise here.
00:04:48.520 I mean, historically, they had to make sure that the kid was theirs.
00:04:51.720 Yeah.
00:04:52.120 And they're saying like, what, 10, 20% of men today are raising a kid that's not theirs.
00:04:56.440 Paternity fraud. 0.91
00:04:57.180 Yeah.
00:04:57.380 But it's not 20.
00:04:58.280 What?
00:04:58.480 Is it really that many?
00:04:59.480 It's one out of three.
00:05:01.060 If you have out of men that, and it depends on the study you look at, but out of men that
00:05:05.180 get it tested, it's one out of three.
00:05:06.840 I know in the UK, it's like one in 50 men.
00:05:08.980 Yeah.
00:05:09.440 Well, I mean, it depends what you look at, but I mean, they think it's higher.
00:05:12.680 It would be really interesting to see if they did mandatory paternity tests at birth.
00:05:16.600 I would guess it would go up. 0.98
00:05:19.280 But yeah, I mean, you guys know this on an innate level, men don't like whores, right? 1.00
00:05:24.760 But don't you think though, we shouldn't be shaming women because actually when we say 0.95
00:05:28.020 that women are whores, what we're actually doing is we're buying into this very reductive 0.98
00:05:31.600 like virgin, good girl, bad girl dichotomy, which comes from Christianity. 0.99
00:05:36.260 I mean, do you actually, you're, you're, you're, you're, I don't think it's like, sorry.
00:05:40.040 I don't think it's like we're shaming women.
00:05:42.560 You kind of are though, because actually.
00:05:44.140 Because if you're going around sleeping with any who and everyone, people are going to
00:05:48.340 look at you and be like, you're a hoe. 1.00
00:05:50.420 But I don't mean we're shaming, it doesn't mean we're shaming ladies. 1.00
00:05:53.780 Who's slut shamed women, men or women? 1.00
00:05:55.680 Well, actually women do. 1.00
00:05:56.700 It's women. 1.00
00:05:57.120 It's women. 1.00
00:05:58.180 It's women and it's not close. 1.00
00:05:59.620 And do you know why women are the ones, it's the women that are saying you're slut. 1.00
00:06:02.300 You know why women do it? 1.00
00:06:03.180 It's not jealousy.
00:06:03.900 No.
00:06:04.280 It's not.
00:06:04.800 It's because I'll put myself in their shoes and I think, I look at them and I think, no,
00:06:09.760 you're a hoe. 1.00
00:06:10.660 Because I would never.
00:06:11.220 Okay. 0.98
00:06:11.500 I'll tell you guys why women slut shamed women. 0.99
00:06:13.620 It's very simple. 0.99
00:06:14.700 Because women control access to the sexual marketplace. 1.00
00:06:16.960 It's women that decide who gets to have sex. 1.00
00:06:18.920 And if a woman's giving it away easily, it actually devalues yourself in the market because 1.00
00:06:23.140 a man can get it from her. 0.90
00:06:24.340 So it's women. 1.00
00:06:24.980 What if people just want to have fun?
00:06:26.980 People can have all the fun they want, but it's not them.
00:06:29.620 I mean, you can have fun.
00:06:31.380 It's just they probably won't pick you for a wife later. 0.97
00:06:33.860 Well, it depends on the kind of guy you go with.
00:06:35.940 Because personally, I wouldn't want to go with a guy who wanted a virginal wife. 1.00
00:06:40.680 I'll give you an example.
00:06:42.260 90% of men would disqualify a girl just based off of OnlyFans.
00:06:46.400 Yeah, but why would you want a guy who thinks like that?
00:06:49.740 I don't know.
00:06:50.700 I can tell you why.
00:06:52.340 That's a biologically easy answer.
00:06:54.080 I'll tell you why.
00:06:54.500 Why would a guy take a girl home that does OnlyFans to their mom? 0.99
00:06:58.120 I would never.
00:06:58.520 What's wrong with that?
00:06:59.120 If I was a man, that is embarrassing.
00:07:02.340 What is embarrassing?
00:07:02.900 My mom would look at me and be like, who is this host?
00:07:06.240 Yeah, but don't you think.
00:07:07.360 What if she's poor? 0.59
00:07:08.840 What if she's trying to make a living? 1.00
00:07:10.800 Then go to McDonald's like the men.
00:07:12.980 Go to work.
00:07:13.540 Go to make the men.
00:07:14.980 The men have to go get a job at McDonald's.
00:07:17.560 I can't zero.
00:07:18.140 That's the easy way out.
00:07:21.180 OnlyFans is the easy way out for people that are lazy and that don't want to work.
00:07:25.420 That's the realest of it.
00:07:26.680 No, it is.
00:07:27.320 It is because what are you doing?
00:07:28.480 You're flashing your body for some money.
00:07:30.820 What's wrong with that?
00:07:31.760 There's nothing wrong with it.
00:07:33.120 But obviously, we've all got our own opinions.
00:07:36.480 I'm going to give you guys something.
00:07:37.540 I think we should bring back shame.
00:07:40.080 I think we should shame more, not less.
00:07:43.840 Because women respond really well to social shame. 1.00
00:07:46.900 Yes, yes, they do. 0.90
00:07:47.840 Women are very easy to propagate. 1.00
00:07:49.740 They learned this in the 20s when they started using radio to influence women. 0.90
00:07:55.140 Women are very easily influenced. 1.00
00:07:56.840 This is why we all have the latest fashion trends, the latest makeup trends.
00:07:59.760 Women go with the trends. 1.00
00:08:01.860 And the thing is, when the trend is whoredom, that doesn't make good wives and mothers. 1.00
00:08:05.720 Well, wouldn't you say that the sexual revolution then was caused by the absolute obsession with female virginity? 0.66
00:08:11.780 And it's almost like if you have this extreme, you end up going from one extreme to the other. 0.99
00:08:15.860 I would say that the sexual revolution was caused by birth control and women wanting to be whores. 1.00
00:08:21.440 When you think about it, guys, feminism let us do anything. 1.00
00:08:24.840 And we chose whoredom. 1.00
00:08:27.340 How crazy is that?
00:08:28.560 We could have chosen anything.
00:08:30.580 We could have been astronauts.
00:08:32.020 A lot of feminists are actually very anti-sexual liberation. 1.00
00:08:34.840 Like, went to the moon, started Fortune 500 companies.
00:08:39.200 But women are doing that. 1.00
00:08:39.800 You know, I mean, and we chose...
00:08:41.560 Excuse me, can you follow the rules?
00:08:45.000 Oh, sorry.
00:08:46.040 You just keep cutting and interrupting.
00:08:48.360 No worries.
00:08:49.020 My apologies.
00:08:50.700 Women could have did anything. 1.00
00:08:52.360 And we chose whoredom. 1.00
00:08:54.680 And that's the funny thing.
00:08:56.360 85% of us were virgins 100 years ago.
00:08:59.260 Why is that a good thing?
00:09:00.500 Now, now, 95% of us aren't.
00:09:04.000 That's how much we go with trends.
00:09:05.540 So a little shame, I think it's not a bad thing.