JustPearlyThings - Hafeez Tries to DEBUNK the red pill

00:00:00.000 an example felons have 30 more children than non-felons i love it yeah so i don't i don't

00:00:05.520 so you just threw out a number yeah i've never heard that you yeah i you have nothing to back

00:00:10.240 it up so another example is i'm sorry we got we got to stop there what happens in this community

00:00:16.000 what happens with with the people who have the school of thought they'll throw out numbers

00:00:20.480 where did that where did that stat come from where did it come from where did it come from

00:00:23.680 off the top of my head i don't know but it's easy to google i know like if you google it it's like

00:00:28.000 at the top it's easy to google right but the reality of the matter is when people are sharing

00:00:32.640 their statistics and numbers a lot of times they don't know they can't even tell you the primary

00:00:36.480 source so because it's like off the top of your head you're not going to know why should i believe

00:00:41.360 you why should i believe you yeah okay but if i'm saying if i if i got you the stat i could look it

00:00:45.440 up now i know you could look yeah you can take your time we could pause yeah you can look it up but my

00:00:49.440 point is that a lot of times in this community they'll throw statistics and data at you you're

00:00:54.720 not you don't have you're not privy to the system data yeah some of it is true some of it is false

00:00:59.120 right i can go with some of the truths and false as well and so because you're not able to simply

00:01:04.240 look things up you're in a conversation where you're like okay i'm gonna give this person the benefit of

00:01:08.560 the doubt but but if the data is simply skewed by sheer numbers it can totally um this um dispel

00:01:16.240 whether this person's communicating the truth or not yeah but it's easy to just like google it i know but

00:01:20.240 what i'm saying is listen carefully if you and i are having a podcast conversation and you have 15

00:01:26.720 data points that justify your world view but you don't know the source you know the primary

00:01:31.360 secondary source we could stop this episode and every time you pull up numbers i could we could look

00:01:38.000 at you can look them up you can pull them up you can show it to me but that's going to take too long

00:01:42.560 so usually in conversations like this they don't you're not able to do so so therefore what you're

00:01:47.040 forced to do in these conversations is whenever someone gives you a statistic the individuals call

00:01:52.480 to believe it and i've seen that happen myself because i'm a data person as well you've consumed

00:01:57.200 my content so you know some of it i'm a data person myself so when i share data there's times where i

00:02:02.320 was like oh well that number was wrong but because we're in the middle of a conversation people simply

00:02:06.080 believe me yeah and so to me which is fine then you just update it i know but yeah but in the midst of

00:02:10.960 the conversation when we're having these conversations and when we're sharing all these data

00:02:14.640 a lot of people will spew data and numbers that they don't even they don't it could be truly false

00:02:20.880 i understand sometimes misinformation happens 100 and it's not perfect i'm not saying you're trying

00:02:25.680 to deceive me yeah but what i'm saying is that there has to be a level of accountability when we're

00:02:30.880 saying this is the truth so for one of the things that i've been improving on in regards to my speech

00:02:35.520 is that if i share a number if i really don't know the primary source or am i willing to pull up

00:02:40.080 immediately right i'll say well you know what i think this is the number or i'm not sure this is

00:02:44.640 another but what happens is when you say 110 this is true the divorce rate in america is 50 it is true

00:02:51.440 and then you share these explicit narratives and then when you simply analyze them and break them down

00:02:56.480 you realize that's not the case yeah but then then you switch it but i don't think it's wrong to just

00:03:01.360 say a number it's nothing wrong and then and then and then and then i look it up and it's right like

00:03:06.560 i've looked that up before that's not what i i think you're getting lost you're getting lost in the

00:03:11.120 specific point i'm talking about the meta point the meta point is that when people are communicating

00:03:15.680 statistics the audience has is totally dependent upon the orator and and if that person says i am the

00:03:22.800 bearer of the truth a lot of times in the midst of a conversation a lot of people communicate numbers

00:03:27.200 that may or may not be true yeah so my biggest thing is that when a lot of these individuals

00:03:32.160 are communicating numbers i'm the kind of person where i'm like hey let's stop let's analyze them

00:03:37.440 and let's see whether they're true or not is there a common talking point that isn't true that you're

00:03:41.920 thinking of i think one of the biggest conversations that is not discussed is how marriage has changed

00:03:47.120 from the 90s till today okay if you if you if you look up the marriage the divorce rates divorce rates

00:03:52.640 have been decreasing from the 1990s until today a lot of different studies and a lot of different

00:03:57.920 analyzation a lot of different so are you listening are you trying to talk uh-huh i'm curious i'm

00:04:04.800 listening because you kind of seem like you just you're waiting for me to stop talking so you can say

00:04:09.200 something uh-huh no i'm listening god are you sure yeah mostly go ahead okay so in regards to the

00:04:16.000 divorce numbers a lot of the divorce numbers that are communicated today they're not all those are a lot of

00:04:22.240 of all previous numbers and when you're factoring into the trends that are leading to the lowering

00:04:26.560 of divorce rates as well as all the different cross-cultural analysis of divorces it's a lot

00:04:31.200 that can be learned about divorces so in regards to the western world a lot of the divorces having

00:04:35.760 issues they're 100 right but we have to communicate well here's the reality the divorce rate has been 0.97

00:04:41.600 going down and why has the divorce rate been going down and the reason why the divorce rate is going

00:04:46.080 down is because we've we've learned a lot of different things about marriage about divorce about why

00:04:50.240 did the divorce rate skyrocket skyrocket initially in 1970s to begin with and so there's a lot of

00:04:55.600 when you hear a number statistics are great under the broad scope of a conversation but when you're

00:05:01.280 really trying to dive deeper into what's going on in today's society statistics tell you a story

00:05:06.400 right so once you understand the story behind the number then you can understand why the number is

00:05:10.880 practical so in my question is so when so one of the biggest things that we've worked on is that if

00:05:16.240 we're going to give a number we want to also tell the story behind a number and how is that beneficial

00:05:20.720 to improving the lives of people today and so to me that's one of my different different points of

00:05:25.760 view is that if you're simply holding on to any world view and the world views communicating certain

00:05:31.200 things that may or not be true or may not be painting the whole picture is this for the purpose

00:05:35.200 of benefiting society or is it for the purpose of perpetuating a narrative wouldn't wouldn't you say

00:05:40.000 that the divorce rates going down because people aren't getting married as much so think about it right this

00:05:44.240 let's let's talk about divorce rate is by percentage so let's do some numbers because you seem like a 1.00

00:05:48.080 very analytical girl logical girl let's talk about some numbers thank you so if the system of marriage

00:05:53.040 is broken right and a thousand people get married oh i see the rate would still be i see okay so let's

00:05:59.440 do it for the people right remember the red pill argument is the system is broken so that means

00:06:04.880 anyone who engages in this institution whether or not you do it it's broken it's not going to work

00:06:10.800 it's going to lead to a 50 divorce rate so if a thousand people get get married therefore it

00:06:16.720 should be 50 divorce rate but then if 900 people get divorced and 10 years later instead of the thousand

00:06:25.680 10 years ago now 900 people get married and that divorce rate is 40 not 50 where it was before the

00:06:32.560 question i must be asked is these 100 people why did that number change if the system was broken and

00:06:38.160 therefore whether you what is a thousand nine hundred eight hundred twelve hundred eleven hundred it

00:06:42.240 should be the same thing but if the number went down but then the divorce rate decreased by percentage 1.00

00:06:47.760 why did it go down who was not getting married and how would it contribute to the increase of divorce

00:06:52.960 rates in the past and that's why i said the numbers will tell you a story and if you don't know the

00:06:57.760 full story you don't know how the number is relevant to the lives of everything as many of you know i was just

00:07:02.960 banned on tick tock and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform if you want to help please

00:07:10.720 consider sending a super thanks below every donation helps and it helps make what we do possible

JustPearlyThings - March 22, 2023

Hafeez Tries to DEBUNK the red pill

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript